1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Revere redly. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: our life, this is our passions. That's the spirit we 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: It is Monday, the fifth of April twenty twenty one, 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and it is time ladies and gents, diggity donks, cucks 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know what else, but it's time for 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Hello everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. Let's 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: bang the gentleman on the other side of the screen. 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: He is vaccinated, not housebroken, but a wonderful man just 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: the same. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, how are you? Hy? 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: Hi? Luke, thank you, thank you for that rousing introduction 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: right there. Yes, I have taken one half of the 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: recommended amount of Pfizer inside my my blood system at 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: this moment, Luke, So, I slept a lot. It was 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: a little little crank, a little cranky and uh nauseous, 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: but we got through it. Luke so, uh COVID don't 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: be knocking on my door anymore. All right? 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: You see the massive question, how come when we go 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: on the road and we drink and we eat poorly, 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: we come back feeling exhausted. And then when we go 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: on the road and we don't drink at all and 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: we get more sleep, we also come back raggedy. It 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: makes no difference how we come back. I don't understand that. 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you. It makes no difference. Luke, Just 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: keep coming, all right. 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: Just keep on coming. 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: So we're trying to do here, I mean, you know 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: that is our mission statement, right. 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: Brian Woody what's Woody's last name? The guy who's bit 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: You stole this from from Around the Horn. 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a Woody page from Boody page is from 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: Brian wood Page Campbell. 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: Yes, uh, Brian. We got a lot to get to today. 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: We did do a post fight show last week for 37 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: the first fight for belat Or on showtime belt Or 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: two fifty five. You can go check that out. But 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: we are going to get to some of that still 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: today a little bit. But of course, we got a 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: lot of UFC news to get to. We got some 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: boxing retirements. We have to get to your questions, have 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: you seen this shit? We have a lot to get to. BC. 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: You could argue. 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: That that belat Or post show Friday was a rousing success. 46 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: In fact, The word on the street is people loving 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: the more serious tone they got out of Late Night 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: BC right there. So I don't know, Luke, you know, maybe. 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: Maybe I've been right about what you should be doing 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: this whole time. Yes, it's funny, Maybe. 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: I should drop drop the whole bit where you know, 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: you try to bring fun and sunshine to people's days 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: and just hit them with you know, aggressively boring MMA takes. 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: So let's see what we got. 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: You know, that's right, Well, if we are capable of 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: nothing if not aggressively boring MMA takes. But hopefully the 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: show will be a little bit better than that first 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: thing's first thumbs up on the video, Hit the subscribe 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: button and that notification bell. If you like this sort 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: of show, there's a lot more of it coming every 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: single week, so to get more of what you enjoy, 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button. Yes, okay, very good. Uh, let's 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: see if you want to follow us on social you 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: can see all the stuff there on the lower third. 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: You want to give Showtime a try, why not go 66 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: to showtime dot com and get a thirty day free trial. 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: If you're ready to take the plunge, you can go 68 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: to show dot com slash belt or MMA. And for 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the first six months it's just five bucks basically each month. 70 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I never understand the pricing structures or anything. Four nine 71 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: What can it just be five? Just make it five. 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: It feels better, it feels cheaper, feels safer. 73 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Luke, you know, I guess. I guess I must be 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: market research around this kind of thing. In any case, 75 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: five bucks four nine doesn't matter. Still a deal. 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Luke, you didn't you didn't recommend 77 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: the people go check out our latest creation from the 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: only night that we did drink, I didn't. 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: I did not drink. Yes, there was room service diaries. 80 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: Well, could I see you at dinner? You did raise 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: the glasses something at dinner? 82 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Loop, That's right, Yes, I had I think maybe three 83 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: old fashions, But that was it. I mean, I didn't 84 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: get you. 85 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: You lying old bitch. Okay, I was there? 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, But that night but that night we recorded this, Oh, 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: I guess I had some. Yeah, That's why I was 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: so tired. But any case, I didn't get drunk one time, 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: and I still took all my Nqualla Milton, what always? 90 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: What are we for getting here? BC? Anything else? 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: To keep still view that that that inside look at 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: the future of our of our unemployment. That really it's 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: where it was going. But a nice little rousing success 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: just the same. Luckily, Luke, you edited out all of 95 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: your bad jokes and left me hanging with the with 96 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: the Chindler's list thing. That's great. Thanks, thank you, thank 97 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: you very much. Yeah. 98 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: For folks who don't understand how BC works, this is 99 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: a bit he does called lying. So we wanted to 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: take it out and we didn't, And then we showed 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: it to him and he actually demanded that we leave 102 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: it in. And we showed it to other members of 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: the crew man and they also thought it was a 104 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: good idea to leave in. So when BC comes on 105 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: the show and says things like this, I want you 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: all to know and follow me here he's lying. 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you did edit it out a few 108 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: dark areas, all all pointing towards you. 109 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I did edit out a few dark areas for me, 110 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm also the one who filmed it 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: and hauled the camera equipment. So to the victor goes 112 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: the spoils. If you would like to edit it next time, 113 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: you certainly may. 114 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: When that trap you said ends in deployment for me, Luke, 115 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: I hope hopefully you get blessed with a Canadian thank you, 116 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: thank you. 117 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's get to it topic number one 118 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: here on the show. It was the only thing we 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: did not get to last week by virtue of the 120 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: timing and everything. So let's get to it now. The 121 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter is back. And it's not just that The 122 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter is back, because you kind of knew that, 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: but now we have coaches. We have Brian Ortega and 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: we have Alexander Volkanovsky. So for topic number one, we 125 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: know who the coaches are for the next season of 126 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: The Ultimate Fighter. There you can see, Oh, you know what, 127 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I jumped the ship. That's why it took so long 128 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: because I watched it. We're still going to start here, BC, 129 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: because fuck it, it's too late to back up now, 130 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: all right, you. 131 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: Can't blame this on Jay. This is no I. 132 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: Can't you know what it was. I had the old 133 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: rundown in front of me, not the updated one. So 134 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: that's on me. I'll take the l There you go 135 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: dead wrong. Sorry, Corey, I fucked that up. Here we go. 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: We're already committed o BC. So let's get to it. 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: In fact, we did not get to it last week. 138 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: Your reaction to Volkanovski and or Tega A being the 139 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: next coaches for The Ultimate Fighter, and then b what 140 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: this does to the Fight, which is pushing back anywhere 141 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: between five to six maybe more months. 142 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: I feel like this was the wrong move for UFC, 143 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: and I'm not here to necessarily, you know, criticize, because 144 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: I don't hold Tough Dear to my heart an as 145 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: many as much these days as anybody else, you know 146 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: what I mean. We all have our favorite memories in 147 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: the past, but no one's like itching for this series 148 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: to come back, per se. So to me, this fields 149 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: like a safe, mild choice. In fact, I don't necessarily 150 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: understand the choice of coaches in this case. Unless your 151 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: sole focus was to try to establish Brian Orteguez the 152 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: next big star, I think it would be a no brainer, Luke. 153 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: If we're going down the road, and I know there's 154 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: still negotiations to stuff that needs to happen, but if 155 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: we are on our way to Francis and Ghanu John 156 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: Jones and you want that thing to frick and bang, 157 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: the best possible promotional vehicle in this space would be 158 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: the return of tough through the ESPN machine with those 159 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: two heavyweights as coaches. That's just me talking, Luke. You know, 160 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm not hired as a promoter or marketer of any 161 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: form really beyond my own shitty humor and maybe this sweatshirt, 162 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: which could be on sale in the future. We're not 163 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: really sure about that yet. So beyond that, Luke, I 164 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: just don't I don't get this move, you know, I mean, 165 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't suck. I'd watch it, you know, I'd give 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 3: it a try, but this ain't sexy. 167 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Luke. 168 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: You wanting ghanu to Jones to go to two million 169 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: pay per view buys? Do you care about that anymore? 170 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: You have see it? Does? 171 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: I mean you have to pay John more if it does, 172 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: because that's the right vehicle for this. 173 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Luke. I don't know what the right answer is, other 174 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: than I wish the Ultimate Fighter wasn't really here. I mean, 175 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: the problem is complicated because in this pandemic regional Mma 176 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: is not doing what it's supposed to be doing. It's 177 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: not producing the amount of talent that it otherwise could. 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: It's it's got back together a little bit, and maybe 179 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: that will improve substantially here in the summer and then 180 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: the fall or in the winter for twenty twenty one, 181 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: I certainly hope, but as it stands in terms of 182 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: what it has been, it has not been a lot. 183 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: And so you pull back in this machine, the Ultimate Fighter, 184 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: where you can pluck fighters maybe in even two different 185 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: weight classes, depending how you want to structure it, and 186 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you can pull them off the regional scene. You can 187 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: have them on the show, you can fight, you can 188 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: give contracts whatever you want to or not. It sort 189 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: of serves a function that they didn't necessarily need when 190 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: they just had the Contender series and a normally functioning 191 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: regional MMA apparatus. But that's just not the situation that 192 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: they have. So I understand why they brought it back, 193 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: but it's just so inconvenient. Look, it doesn't really impact 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: me in like any other way because I'm not going 195 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: to watch the show. I'd watched the fights probably, but 196 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: I would not really watch the show if it's on 197 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: ESPN Plus. But it's not hurting anybody. It's not like 198 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: there no one's forcing me to watch it. It's fine. 199 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: You want to watch it, watch it if you don't, don't. 200 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: The part where it gets kind of interesting is where 201 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: you take the coaches and then you delay them, And 202 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: to your point, it's like, dude, there are so many 203 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: other ways for this thing to go sometimes, which I 204 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: know it's probably not easy. They wanted a welterweight series 205 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: of coaches for whatever reason that didn't work not only knows, 206 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: and they ended up with this one because of the 207 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: COVID delay. So I appreciate how nimble the UFC can 208 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: be with these things. I understand why they're bringing tough back, 209 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: but it just feels like there are ways in which 210 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: they could execute on some of their business strategies in 211 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: conjunction with their goals BC without having it be this difficult. 212 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: To your point, Francis and Jones, is such an easier 213 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: call here. 214 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: Well, this is gonna delay a division's title picture. Unfortunately 215 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: that doesn't need to. I mean, I want to find 216 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: out if Max Holloway really is still the best feather 217 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: way in the world. I saw him beat Volkanowski in 218 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: their second fight, but it didn't go as way. He's 219 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 3: only looked insanely great since then. Look, I got to 220 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: see this English speaking z of beat proof to everyone 221 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: that he is the future champion in this division. That 222 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 3: I once read written on tattoo on the back of 223 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 3: Kevin Lee's head as a foreshadowing prophetic message. Luke, I'm 224 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: telling you those are my two guys for the future. 225 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 3: But you get what I'm saying here. I don't want 226 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: to see this picture tied up. And can you give 227 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: me any other reason beyond the I don't know if 228 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: this negotiation period with John will actually happen. Excuse for that, 229 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: for the reason for heavyweights not to be here in. 230 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: The spot that they they don't they don't want to. Yeah, 231 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: they don't want to change their business in a way 232 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: to accommodate them. That's That's sort of where we just 233 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: keep coming back to. It's where it's the you know, listen, 234 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: the certain ways in which the industry is organized make 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: a lot of consumer demand possible. But because one of 236 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the downsides, honestly, of having that much consumer demand met 237 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: is that when they don't meet sometimes they can take 238 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: weird positions on why they're not meeting it. But because 239 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: everything else is so great, there's just no overall pushback. 240 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: It's not a decline in the product, it's just a 241 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: certain decline in potential opportunities. While the rest of the 242 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: product thrives. So you know, we're sitting here and bitching 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I guess we're still gonna get 244 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: the fight. Maybe there'll be some good fights on the show. 245 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: It's just Jesus, we almost had this fight at UFC 246 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: two sixty. They got COVID that sucked. In fact, Volkanofsky 247 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: said it was really bad. And now we're not gonna 248 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: get in to what December. It's like, oh God, Like 249 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: what an impediment to the normal functioning and operation of 250 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: a business. 251 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: This feels like a haphazard decision in an area where 252 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: UFC rarely ever misses, you know, if at all. So 253 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: is this more centered upon Ortega's star future and potential? 254 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: Do they look at him when they look at the 255 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 3: group of you know, we're always like, who's going to 256 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: be the next Connor? It's been this, you know, casual 257 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: pay per view you know debate thing. Anytime a big 258 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: star hits a mountain top and then slides a little bit, 259 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: you're like, who's the next pay per view star? Remember, 260 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: for a while we thought, oh, you know, really could 261 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: be Cody Garbrandt. Then he suffered some losses, and now 262 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: we're like, well it really could be out of Sonia. 263 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: But you know, he did just have a minor hiccup 264 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: there at light heavyweight. So do you think they look 265 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: at Ortega as a potential legitimate pay per view headliner 266 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: And that's why this decision was made because they don't 267 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: do anything haphazardly, Luke. 268 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tend to think there might be something at 269 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: play with also Volkanovsky, where he's a very good champion. 270 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: I suspect he'll beat Ortega again. Who knows. I'm just saying, dude. 271 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: Dude, you don't know that. Okay, don't don't. 272 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: See k I don't know that. That's why I say 273 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: I suspect. I didn't say he will. It's a big difference, 274 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: that's my hunch anyway, And they're probably dealing with They're 275 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: at least dealing with the scenario BC where they have 276 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: to recognize there is a possible future where this guy 277 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: from Australia is going to be in this role as 278 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: champion for a considerable amount of time, and so to 279 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: what extent do you want to back him? Sometimes in 280 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: the Ultimate Fighter, they use it to capture a huge 281 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: audience in a way where they don't need to build 282 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: someone up, but they if they put him in that role, 283 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: it'll garner a lot of attention, like a Kimbo slice. 284 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: He didn't need to be in the Ultimate Fighter, but 285 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: they put him there, and in a situations where like 286 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: somebody needs a boost that the Ultimate Fighter has to 287 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: raise their stock, whatever possible that is. I tend to 288 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: think Volkanovsky might fall into that, not or Tega, although 289 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: this rivalry in selling this probably would be good down 290 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: the line for him and for his future. I think 291 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: they're probably trying to do a little bit of that. 292 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: They've never really had that Mexican American fan base on Lockdown. 293 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: Maybe they see or Tega as that guy who went 294 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: away came back. He only improved. He's got star power 295 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: they haven't tapped into yet. You know, he's got the 296 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: model looks. He's was real weird in that interview with 297 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: me a couple weeks ago on me maybe he's the 298 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: dude now, Luke. Okay, we'll find out when that fight. 299 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: So you don't think they're thinking about Volkanovsky like they're like, uh, 300 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: he might be championed, Like with the Kamaru. It's like 301 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: you look at Kamoru w and you're like, well, you 302 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: never know, fighter for fight. You get knocked out any moment. 303 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: But you also would be foolish as a promoter to 304 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: not look at this and say he might be here 305 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: doing this for a while. 306 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: Nah. Now, Luke, they saw Max beat him the second time. 307 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: The UFC loves Max. And on top of that, Luke, 308 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: it's uh, you got a lot of balls refusing to 309 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: do any form of predictions. But a city cockboxing guy 310 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: jumps in here. You're like, yeah, I mean he's probably 311 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: gonna beat or taka. I mean that's a year. You 312 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: got a lot of balls trying to slip that past 313 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 3: not a prediction or my own Reddit page to uh, 314 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: to decode you to the to the public. 315 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why this is hard for you. This 316 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: is not a prediction. So it's like an inclination, is 317 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: not me making a declaration. You understand that, right. 318 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: You know, I choose to understand what I understand. 319 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Luke. 320 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: Okay, you call it ignorance, all right, I call it decipherance. 321 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: Okay, decipherance, Yes, that is what it is, a great 322 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: name of a band. Decipherance. All right. Let's go now 323 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: back in time where we're supposed to do topic number 324 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: one in the first position, which I amazingly got that wrong. 325 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: But let's try it again one more time. All right. 326 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: So reports are out that Dustin Poirier BC has in 327 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: fact signed the paperwork to fight one Connor McGregor a 328 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: third time. On top of that, while we don't have 329 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: any evidence that or I think any reports that McGregor 330 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: has signed the deal, what we do have is him 331 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: saying that our reports rather that he has agreed in principle. 332 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: ESPN reporting that he has agreed in principle to now 333 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: take this challenge on July tenth is when they're targeting. 334 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's sort of circle back to this contest 335 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: now if we can hearing this news, do you have 336 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: any different reaction? What are you thinking about as we 337 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: inch closer to that pretty monumental trilogy? 338 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's sort of inspired. I saw, you know, 339 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: brett O Komodo ESPN, a guy who we like, just 340 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: put out one of those columns that asked a very 341 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: interesting question, you know, and it spurred my thinking of 342 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: what's really at stake for both guys. It's something I 343 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: didn't necessarily focus on because the whole build toy this 344 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: fight happening was more of a debate of whether you know, 345 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: Poria should already be the champion, should McGregor be back 346 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: in the spot, why are we doing this one as 347 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: a non title all that, but in terms of what 348 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: it acts actually means, I mean, the angle Brett took 349 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: was that, you know, in some ways, this is McGregor's 350 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: last chance to save himself and I you know, on 351 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: the on the super elite path that he had been 352 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: on for a long time, And look, I kind of 353 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: want to sit in that for a second, to be honest. 354 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: I wrote that same column in twenty sixteen after Connor 355 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: was upset by Nate Diaz sort of saying, look, he's 356 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: got one way to fix this problem completely, and that's 357 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: run it back same way, class, same guy and beat 358 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: him and sort of doubled down on his future at 359 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: that point. You know, was he going to break loose 360 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: and be this truly global superstar, which he obviously became, 361 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: And you know he kind of did exactly that, but 362 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: there were different stakes for Connor then. Now we've seen 363 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: him lose a few times. Now, you know he's sort 364 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: of getting this opportunity right now that you know, no 365 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: one's calling for this trilogy, right like, we don't We're 366 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: not gonna hate on this fight. We love this fight 367 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: in theory, like in reality, right, it's sort of like, 368 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: you know, look, she's not Latina, but you know you 369 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: still like pizza, bro right, you know you still like 370 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: to eat at the end of the day. 371 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Right. 372 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, we love this fight, Luke, make no mistake 373 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: about it. This fight fucking bangs, Okay, but no one 374 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: asked for it. Nobody really needs it. So, Luke, do 375 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: you really feel that Connor's almost in that same thing 376 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: that Brett's trying to outline that if he loses here, 377 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: it is it's what celebrity cash in the rest of 378 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: the way. I mean, is this the last chance at 379 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: truce elite superiority, the guy he was in twenty sixteen 380 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: that never came back. Is this the last chance to 381 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 3: produce him? 382 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Luke? I mean, I haven't read the column, so I'm 383 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: only reacting to your rescue. 384 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: I didn't really read it either, Okay, I love you, Brett. 385 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: I just skimmed it, Okay, I'm just taking themes, all. 386 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: Right, Luke, No, no, no, But I was thinking about this 387 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: because years ago I wrote a column for Shirt Dog. 388 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: I think it was called like the Kimbo Slice bubble 389 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: or something like that. And I had argued it was 390 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: either before the pet or Wolls was to be the 391 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: Shamrock fight where it was like right after the Petrozelli fight. 392 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Whichever way it was that, you know, the interesting part 393 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: about promoting Kimbo was that it was done on this 394 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: illusion and this is before I'd come around to him, 395 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: that it was done on this illusion that this guy 396 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: is a lot better than he is. Well, what happens 397 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: when he loses? Folks will know the jig is up. 398 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: And the reality was that was never really Kimbo's appeal. Yeah, 399 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: there was a little bit how good is he? Okay, 400 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: and then once you realized he wasn't that good, it 401 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: never became about hey, how good is Kimbo Slice. It 402 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: just became about let's cheer for Kimbo Slice. We like 403 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Kimbo Slice. Kimbo Slice is a likable person for all 404 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: these different demos. And so yes, they wanted it was 405 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: I want to be clear about something, Winning more than 406 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: losing was pretty important, and winning in big moments still 407 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: carried significant value. It's not that if Connor McGregor lost 408 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: there wouldn't be significant drop off at interest or blowback 409 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: or some kind of larger reconding BC. But here's what 410 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: you got to remember about some of these folks, Dude, 411 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: Connor McGregor is now a celebrity to people and an 412 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: adored figure, whether you like it or not, for reasons 413 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: that just go far beyond fighting. At this point, it 414 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: would potentially, yes, I think take him off the super 415 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: elite track. I think I do think it's gonna be 416 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: said for that. But Connor is gonna remain a popular figure. 417 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: I won't say as long as he wants to, but 418 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: much longer than his losses will drag him down. 419 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: So you're saying it may not necessarily be as dark 420 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: as post bite Mike Tyson's run, where it was just 421 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: like fiasco Carnival. Come see the old name, dance around 422 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: and maybe bite somebody. But what you're also saying is, 423 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 3: you know, you can't be a virgin over again, Like 424 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: that guy's not coming back anyway and win or lose 425 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: from now on. He's kind of the same guy. We've 426 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: seen him lose already a few times. He's kind of 427 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: who he is. 428 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess there's some sadness in that, Luke. 429 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't need to romanticize the McGregor era, but I 430 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: like to believe that he can keep it alive with 431 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: a win on Saturday and get back into a title 432 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: picture that he doesn't necessarily deserve to be in. So 433 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there is huge stakes in this regard. Maybe 434 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: I just don't want to believe that it's really over Luke. 435 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: Maybe that's maybe that's what this is all about. 436 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: It it may not be, it may not be. We don't 437 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: have a definitive answer to this, but I do feel like, 438 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to just the way to understand 439 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: is you have to just have an appreciation for the seriousness. 440 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: But some of the limits of a loss in MMA, 441 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: especially for an A list talent, The loss does make 442 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: matchmaking for him harder BC, because if he's at the 443 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: top of the division, you can just go any number 444 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: of ways, and because he's popular, he'll have a lot 445 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: of flexibility relative to somebody else. But it does narrow 446 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: some of those choices a little bit. I mean, it 447 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: would reduce potentially some of the upside of what he 448 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: could do on pay per view. I mean, there are 449 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: some consequences to it, but the idea that like and 450 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: again I'm not saying Brett argue this, But I'm just 451 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: saying the idea that if anyone believes a loss to 452 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Poitier here would just you know, pull the plug out 453 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: of not the plug, but the stopper at the end 454 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: of the bathtub and all the water drains. It doesn't 455 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: work like that. 456 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, bru don't throw the baby out with the damn 457 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: betht water. Ah, yeah, Brett, if that's what you said 458 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: in that calm, I didn't read it. But no, Luke, 459 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: do you think you know, I don't know. There's there's 460 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: a lot, Maybe there's a lot more interesting. 461 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: Let me let me spin it back to you, bec 462 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: because you said something i'll call my interest. You said 463 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: it was sad. You said it was sad about McGregor 464 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: that like, it could very well be that that amazing 465 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: thing he did was just a moment in time and 466 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: it's over. Why is that sad? Isn't that just the 467 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: way life works? 468 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 3: It is And it's also the the the you know, 469 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: the the vicious cycle, the food uh, the food chain 470 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: of MMA, no doubt about that. I don't say sad 471 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: from the standpoint Luke of being a McGregor super fan 472 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: or wanting and believing like a child was crossing their 473 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 3: fingers that he's gonna come back and win a championship. 474 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: Like that doesn't really matter to me. It's more for 475 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: having been part of something that that was a special, historic, 476 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: insane era in this sports history, and having been there 477 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: at a very close level, you know, front row media, backstage, 478 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: gold micro phones, that type of thing. Having really been 479 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, writing opinion pieces this whole way, and feeling 480 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: like I've sort of lived this fun era. 481 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 4: The idea that it could be potentially over from the. 482 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: Energy and the fun that it brought because of one guy, 483 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: and having enjoyed, you know, looking at an artist right, 484 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: having enjoyed the canvas that McGregor has largely painted with 485 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: fun and interest, the idea that we could end the idea, 486 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: not that that could be gone. In some selfish ways, 487 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: said no more for the whole idea, Luke, of what's 488 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 3: the tail end going to look like? I mean, very 489 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: few combat athletes die with dignity, so to speak, in 490 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: terms of the end of their career. You know, more 491 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: often than not, we'll see a great one like Chuck 492 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: Ladell need to be dragged out or we'll see you know, 493 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: I mean, look one thing Anderson Silva has been able 494 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: to avoid Luke is is looking too sad, right. I mean, 495 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: he's had some injuries, he's had a lot of losses 496 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: in a row, but he's never looked truly sad because 497 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: he's always been able to raise his game to a 498 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: certain level of competence that you're sort of like, Okay, 499 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: all right, is the end is the McGregor end, whether 500 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: that's next year or whether that's five, six, seven years 501 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: from now, is that gonna look really sad to you? 502 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: What do you do? You do you think he's one 503 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: of those guys that they're gonna have to drag out 504 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: after multiple knockouts. 505 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: I mean really depends how long he goes. I mean 506 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: even with Tyron Woodley, you're like, oh, he lost to 507 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: someone who had never contended for a title with Vicenti Luk, 508 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: but like, Luk is still really good. What I don't 509 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: want to see is I want to see McGregor lose 510 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: to a guy he like obviously would have dusted in 511 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: his prime, you know what I mean, Like you lose 512 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: to Poarier, Okay, Partier's he's real good. Like that's fine, 513 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's no big deal. Is he gonna let 514 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: it again, and he might go there. He might go 515 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: out the I want to be clear before people get 516 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: honest about it. He might go out there and viciously 517 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: ko Parier in the third fight. I'm just pointing if 518 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: to what extent is he going to manage decline? I 519 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: don't know. 520 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if they stick him with Mickey gall is 521 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: a get well fight and he gets knocked out, we're 522 00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: in bad terror. 523 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, yes, yes, if he gets that far, if maybe 524 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: you do just open up the little But what's it 525 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: called the drain stopper? 526 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, Mike Perry is dancing on his grave and 527 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: Ocean is just rocking out as the secondary, the second chief, 528 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: second support in the corner. Uh, that's gonna be a 529 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: sad moment from McGregor house, Luke. But uh, yeah, so 530 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: we identified what's at stake for Connor, are we not 531 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: hitting at all? What's at stake for Poorier beyond the 532 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: big subhead that we did hit. When this fight was 533 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: talked about about the idea of him essentially turning down 534 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: a chance at the title in order to cash in 535 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 3: on the fame, history and money at stake in this one, 536 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: Luke what's really truly in Dustin's mind right now, in 537 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: your eyes. 538 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: I think he just realizes that the you can't, you can't. 539 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: You know, it's good that they're ringing doorbells here in 540 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: my house and letting the dog's bark. And I want 541 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: to tell you that I really, really, really like it 542 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: when my family does that. I just tend to think, 543 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: if you're or Dustin Poirier, how do you look at 544 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: a situation and go, yeah, we'll turn down this Connor 545 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: McGregor fight again. I don't think it's an either or. 546 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought of it like, oh, there's 547 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: nothing to this situation with the belt. I don't need 548 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the belt. I think they wanted the belt. I think 549 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: they wanted the belt in that first fight. I think 550 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: they wanted the belt in the second fight. They just 551 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: couldn't get to a position where that was on the line, 552 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: and so they had to make a choice. Okay, you 553 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: can go and fight for the belt against whoever was 554 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Chandler or whatever, or you can fight McGregor again in 555 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: a trilogy. I think he just felt like when stories 556 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: are written about guys, they're gonna write about the guy 557 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: who beat Connor McGregor twice in a trilogy, even if 558 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: there was no title, versus beating Michael Chandler or Charles 559 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: Lavera to get the title. That's debatable, but I think 560 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: that was probably what was going through his mind. 561 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this will decide if this 562 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: was the right choice. If paw we ain't never fought 563 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: again after today, let's say just retired. What history remember 564 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: as his biggest win, the interim title win over matt Or, 565 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: the knockout of Connor McGregor and their second Connor Connor. 566 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: Then that means, Luke, that that in a lot of ways, 567 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: this is almost like the biggest fight of of Dustin's 568 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: career twice in a row. Like, so he made the 569 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: right choice then, you know, in a lot of ways. 570 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can listen. Can you understand it? Yeah, 571 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: you can understand it. I can understand why someone would 572 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: go a different direction too. But it's hardly like mystifying 573 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: that Poirier would find a third fight with McGregor advantageous 574 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: to his career. 575 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: You know, would he would he face the winner of 576 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: Chandler olivera Poorier, no question? 577 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's not them, who would it be 578 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: all right, you know what I mean, Like, is it 579 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: Dustin or sorry, is it Nate? Nate's fighting at one 580 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: seventy So, I mean that's funny. You know, would Poarier 581 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: take that Diaz fight that Alpha Connor win, That'd be 582 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of funny if you did. You know, I wonder 583 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: about that, but I doubt it. I doubt it. Okay, 584 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: let's let's let's uh go back a little bit. BC. 585 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number three. Here, we talked a 586 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: lot about the first Bellator show on Showtime. This's Bellator 587 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: two fifty five. The winner of the main event, Patricio Pittpoll. So. 588 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: Now Belatore has a very interesting situation that they're currently in. 589 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: They have the best fighter in their history taking on 590 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: this upstart, undefeated phenom who has had his entire career 591 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: in that organization. BC. If they want, here's what I 592 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: think a central challenge Belatore has. Bellatore has to convince 593 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: the average UFC fan that they are also worth watching them. 594 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: As I said, average UFC fan, because UFC puts out 595 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: forty plus events a year, not counting contender series. They've 596 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: got all their stuff online. You can go peruse it 597 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: on Fight Pass or ESPN Plus or whatever. 598 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 3: Like. 599 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: If you're a UFC fan, a lot of your MMA 600 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: needs are met this As a fan this experience, it 601 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: wasn't even possible to BC a UFC one hundred in 602 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: July of two thousand and nine. You couldn't even do 603 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: this kind of a thing that you can do now. 604 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: So Beltor has a real task about how do we 605 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: position our offerings in a way to get those kinds 606 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: of fans to pay attention. How do you sell aj 607 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: McKee versus Pitbull. 608 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: There's one way, unabashedly as the matchup that will determine 609 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: the best one hundred and forty five pound fighter in 610 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: the world. And even if you demonstrably disagree with that, 611 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: or even if you're Scott Coker and you don't necessarily 612 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: believe that. I mean, look, it's not like the UFC 613 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: is having a down run at featherweight at the moment 614 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: we just talked about that. In fact, it's overloaded. 615 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: It's one of the best divisions in the sport. 616 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 3: But I think you have that opportunity to make that 617 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: kind of argument if just even from a marketing standpoint, 618 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: it's not insanely far off at worst, I mean, look, 619 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: Pitbull is legitimately one of the five best pump up 620 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: pound fighters in the world right now. And McKee with 621 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: the potential he's shown from the quick, you know, sensational 622 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: victories to the fact that you know he's second generation, 623 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: all this great stuff we say about him, he's already 624 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: setting so many records. If he beats Pitbull here, I mean, 625 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: you know, that's a leap right there, That is a 626 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: monster leap. So the fact that these two will probably 627 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: meet again for the lightweight championship, if you listen to 628 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: their interviews closely, I think you really sell just how 629 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: talented these guys are and how much this is a 630 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: pound for pound type level fight, and the royalty around 631 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: this fight, the one million dollars, the fact that the 632 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: titles at stake, all that's just dressing on it, and 633 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: you hope that not only do we get a classic, 634 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: but we see these guys fight each other many times. 635 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we've heard aj say he'd follow 636 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: Pipple up to heavyweight if it meant you know, doing that. 637 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: He just wants to beat this guy. So I think 638 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: there's a nice window here, Luke, based upon some of 639 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: the things you said, where if you are a UFC 640 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: fan and you never really give Bellator a full swing, 641 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: and maybe you watch two fifty five and you were like, 642 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: I saw some I really loved. I saw some things 643 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: I didn't love, but at the very least they saw 644 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: a star in Pitbull, a very like a breakout, absolute 645 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: legit sensation. I would play up that whole thing about 646 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: him being potentially, you know, closing in on being the 647 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: best in the world as a major play in hook care, 648 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: not even a ploy, a major you know, you know, yeah, yeah. 649 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: That's is this a bit like a Steepe versus DC 650 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: kind of fight. Here's what I mean by that. If 651 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Pitbull wins, you could do this beforehand, but certainly afterwards. 652 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: If pit Bull wins, you can say he's the best 653 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: one forty five or on Earth. Okay, you can, you can. 654 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: You can again, people can reasonably people can disagree, but 655 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: you can at least make the claim and that if 656 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: McKee beats that guy, oh well, that was the best 657 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: guy at one forty five in the world, and so 658 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: McKee by beating him becomes that is that the argument 659 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: for McKee, Because as good as McKee is and as 660 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: huge as a win over pit Bull might be there's 661 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: still that body of work that he doesn't have, although 662 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: Pitbull would be a nice you know, scalp on the 663 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: restid well. 664 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you could really get behind the idea that 665 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: McKee has a chance to become everything for Belatoor that 666 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Pico hasn't yet still could maybe still going to 667 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: be a really good fighter, I believe, but Aaron Peko 668 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: never became that we have the phenom, We have the 669 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: next big thing in the sport right here. Aj McKay 670 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: McKee in some ways almost like stumbled into that Luke, 671 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: you know, like he's just put it together at the 672 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: right time, peaking at this tournament that I think part 673 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: of that marketing of the whole idea of you know, 674 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 3: there's a pompfer pound fight and could the winner be 675 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: the best featherweight in the world. I mean, how about 676 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: sprinkling a little bit more hyperbole on there and saying 677 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: if McKee beats Pipele and he's the champion and he's 678 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: unbeaten and he's got all of our records for consecutive 679 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: wins and he just beat the face of our franchise, 680 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: like look again, believe it or not, this guy's guy 681 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: like Tiger Woods type feeling in this sport. 682 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: This guy's a phenom, he's a natural. 683 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: Look at him. I mean that's the way to really 684 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 3: frame this and caption this, Luke. And as much as 685 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: even that felt like a stretch to say, I don't 686 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: necessarily believe he's, you know, Tiger Woods of this sport, 687 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: but good god, if he beats frigging pit bull, Luke, 688 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy's moving, He's he's coming, Okay, like MK, Luke. 689 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: He's he is like he is like MK, only he's undefeated. 690 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: No, but he's really coming. 691 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: And you and I are more like journeymen who have 692 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: taken incredible l's over the course of our careers that 693 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: are having a late career resurgence. We're more like Yan 694 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Blohovitch than we would like to admit, you know what 695 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean? 696 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: Or you could say that, look, Luke, or really is 697 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: our broadcasting prime you know, forty two to fifty five 698 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: age wise? I think we are. We're on a good pacer. 699 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: Now We're about to take over the world, Luke. I 700 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: don't know if you've been watching our numbers closely, are 701 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: you know? Mashed critical appeal? How amazing our fans are yeah, 702 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: we ain't no Yon Blohowitz, Okay, even though I respect 703 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: that guy, all. 704 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think your I think your argument is correct, 705 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: and there's other ways to frame where's the we are? 706 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: This is the beat of of MMA talking. 707 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: Ye, I'm not so sure we want to be that 708 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: just yet. Let's wait and see how how a fair 709 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: and appropriate that analogy is. But BC, in all seriousness, 710 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: this is the point I think you're trying to make, 711 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: which is, look, man, yes, I prefer if promoters tell 712 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: the truth, but they don't really have an obligation to, 713 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: and it's not really what they do. What is the 714 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: promotional downside to saying that the best the winner here 715 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: is the best one forty five? Like, what is the 716 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: cost to doing that? It'll okay, you know, promoters stock 717 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: will you know? Oh, people will find them untrustworthy? Yes, 718 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: so what they tend to do that no matter what, 719 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: and it stirs debate. You can go a little bit 720 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: overboard by being like, oh, we're being watched by seventy 721 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: five trillion people just in China, like one championship has done. 722 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: But I do think that trying to force arguments into 723 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: the framing of a fight is actually a pretty important 724 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: thing to do. 725 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're damn right, and you can go too far, 726 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: you can waste too many bullets. But even a Bob 727 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: Aram who is no stranger of toppering boxing Luke to 728 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: lay it on thick. I at least respect that he picks. 729 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 3: He picks his bullets, he chooses them wisely. Yeah, he'll 730 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 3: tell you, man, Loma Chanko, I haven't seen a spirit 731 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 3: like that since Ali. And at first you're like, oh, 732 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: come on, what are we doing here? Well, let me 733 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 3: Chako turned out pretty good, but Cruftford turned out pretty 734 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: hold the Seo turned out pretty good, or you know, 735 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: and I hold this table femal excuse me, So you 736 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. Yeah, good run, Yeah, yeah, no, 737 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying there. But uh, I don't 738 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: think you're pissing people off for offending them. I think 739 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 3: you're bringing eyeballs in. And again I think you know, 740 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: Pipple was the right main event or to open the 741 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 3: bellator on Showtime Era, and he delivered. And this fight 742 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: is going to be the best advertisement you could think 743 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: of Luke for the you know, the future health of 744 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: this of this promotion. Obviously, Rumbo Romero is its own 745 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: special kind of wild card firecracker that we all need 746 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: to see. But Piple McKee is, yeah, that's as good 747 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: as it gets. Luke, that's yeah. Come on. 748 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: Also, I think folks are forgetting Like I think like 749 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: PFL has grown a little bit in popularity in terms 750 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: of a certain kind of fighter, like an Anthony Pettis. 751 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: You know, late stage, you still got a little bit 752 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: of fighting left on. Yeah, let's see if you can 753 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: make it work by just taking a short amount of 754 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: fights to a million dollar check. The winner here gets 755 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: that as well. It's sort of like an easy way 756 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: to borrow from some of the pfl's fighter appeal while 757 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: still having a matchmaking kind of model a little bit, 758 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: because you obviously can you can set the tournament. So 759 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: there you go. 760 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: I just had a vision. I just had a vision. 761 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: You did, Yeah, related to this topic. But remember how 762 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: awkward it was at the UFC card a couple weeks 763 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 3: ago in Vegas when they scanned the celebrity section of 764 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: the crowd and it was like Paul Anka's old ass 765 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: in the corner, and like all these young people that 766 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: you and I are too old to connect with. 767 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: Remember that, Yeah, and we're like what Yeah, but like honestly, 768 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: Chet Hanks, you. 769 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: Know, sense A Segal wasn't available. 770 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, Chet Hanks is not cooler 771 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: than us. I don't care what anybody says. 772 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: I hope when when you and I one day take 773 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 3: this show on the road and do like a live 774 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 3: show for something big, Luke. Remember, imagine if it's it's like, 775 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, Connor versus a BB two fight week and 776 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: MK's got you cover with a live show from Las Vegas, 777 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: you know, and we had our own celebrity section of 778 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: celebrities that have outed themselves to us as huge MK fans. 779 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: That that bullpen, that's that's gonna start. That's filling up 780 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: Luke with with some pretty awesome people. I know, we 781 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 3: got to make a CEE for George Corpscrinder and his 782 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 3: kids in the back of it. But can we welcome 783 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: Portugal de Man to the MK to super Fan Club. 784 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: You know, they could be rocking out with us there and. 785 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: You're very happy about Portugal the Man reaching out to you. 786 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, come on, come on, come on. There's moments 787 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: like that, Luke. Okay, we listen my life for moments all. 788 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: Right, real quickly, real quickly before we leave the Belltore topic. 789 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: Beltore announced UFC sorry, Belltore two fifty nine, which will 790 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: be May twenty first, is going to be the rematch 791 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: between Cyborg at one hundred and forty five pounds the 792 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: first time it was one hundred and forty but between 793 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: Cyborg the champion currently at featherweight in Beltore and then 794 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Leslie Smith. Any thoughts on this one. 795 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: Not overly positive thoughts, Luke. I am of the understanding, 796 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 3: like I've been throughout most of Chris Cyborg's career, that 797 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 3: you got to wait out the good matchups because there 798 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 3: just isn't the depth, especially you know, the weight division 799 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: she has populated where you're gonna consistently get fights that 800 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 3: you're really interested. And I was really interested in the 801 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 3: Julia buddfight. You know, it was her entering the promotion 802 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: and trying to win the title. And but this one 803 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: doesn't move me as much, Luke, let's be let's just 804 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: say say what it is. 805 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the first one was not competitive. It lasted just 806 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: a minute, not even a minute and a half. And 807 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: I understand why they're doing it. You signed Leslie Smith, 808 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: You're gonna have it at the first of all the 809 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: appropriate weight class. At this point, you know who you 810 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: got in the stable to make it work. I think 811 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: Smith won her belator debut, so I understand why they 812 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: made it, But it's like, what, what would make me 813 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: believe that what happened the first time more or less 814 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: won't happen the second. I guess we don't know. 815 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: But here's the unfortunate yet entertaining part of this, Luke. Like. 816 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 3: The unfortunate part is I don't want to see Cyborg 817 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: like visibly declined before my eyes. But the entertaining part 818 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: of it is, you know, except for the times when 819 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: we find her somebody absolutely legitimate who can challenge her, 820 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 3: until that point where she's you know, completely over the 821 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: over the hill, one of these nights, she's gonna show 822 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 3: up a little bit old and being a war and 823 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: you know, it'll be really fun when it gets there, 824 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: even if it'll be you know, sad in the in 825 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 3: the life cycle and the food chain of seeing that happen. 826 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: But I don't think it'll be this one, Luke, But 827 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: that is coming, and uh, you know that she's gonna 828 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 3: punch her way out of those matchups, Luke, It's gonna 829 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 3: be fun. Theater. You know, I just don't think this 830 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 3: is the one, you know. 831 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: Nita do I dude? This is her from the Arlene 832 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: Blenco fight, I think, or maybe yeah, I think it's 833 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: Arlene Blenco fight. No, this is Julia, but that's budd 834 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: Julia bu because it says Gibson on the rear end. 835 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: That's her coach and her husband. I think, you know, dude, 836 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: she didn't look too bad. She hadn't looked too bad 837 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: to me. Her only loss since her pro debut, so 838 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: her only loss in fifteen years. BCEE is Amanda Nunez. Like, 839 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: if there's decline, I don't know where where do you 840 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: see it? I don't see it. 841 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: Well, I don't see anyone, you know, even with a 842 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,959 Speaker 3: little bit more decline, being able to expose that decline yet. 843 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying, Luke, is that night it does come, 844 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 3: and it kind of comes unexpectedly. Typically it does like 845 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: like like young college age, Luke, you know, very unexpectedly, right, 846 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: you know on an ounce. 847 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: Actually has been widely expected? No, yeah, and and eagerly anticipated. 848 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 3: Luke, would you care about cat zin Gano versus uh Chris? 849 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: I honestly think Smith might be a better fight at 850 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: this point. 851 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: I agree with you, But would you care more because 852 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 3: it's Cat? 853 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, it's a fresh matchup. It's a fresh matchup. 854 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But I think unless Cat can really get 855 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: back to what she used to be, which was a 856 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: physical wrestling powerhouse, right, she was so dominant. 857 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 3: Those knees against Misha bro the knees against Misha, those 858 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 3: were some violent asks. 859 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: If you've never seen it, go watch the Misha Tate 860 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: and Cat Zangano fight. You want to talk about a 861 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: dog fight between two absolute beasts that was that was 862 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: like that? And then beating who did she beat when 863 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: she beat a man as the first Yes? 864 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 3: Noon as right? 865 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, she's a fucking she was a monster. I 866 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: don't know where she's at today, so just keep that 867 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: in mind, all right, this one, I'm excited to get 868 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: to BC number five of This Guy topic number four 869 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: as we move along here, Jamelle Herring had a really 870 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: I'll have BC explained the details, but he had a 871 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: moment coming out of his last fight where folks thought 872 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: he was a beat, a bit mentally weak, a bit 873 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: of a quitter, a bit of a guy who just 874 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: kind of gave in we didn't need to. He still 875 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: won the contest, but there was a lot of questions 876 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: about his character. Well, he goes out here on Saturday 877 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: and he fights Carl Frampton and not only wins, BC 878 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: retires Carl Frampton drops him multiple time, to the point 879 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: where Frampton's corner had to chuck in the towel in 880 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: just the sixth round. In fact, when they interviewed Frampton, BC, 881 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 1: Frampton was like, you should be talking to the champ. 882 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: You shouldn't even be talking to me right now, because 883 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: I came in ready, I was ready to go. I 884 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: had a great camp, and he just beat the bricks 885 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: off of me. It's as simple as that. Let's talk 886 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: about Carl in a second. But first things first, how 887 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: big of a redemptive moment was this? Given the questioning 888 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: for Jamel Herring Monster. 889 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 3: I mean, like, forget the questioning just first of all, 890 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: somebody of Jamel Herring's ilk to win a title when 891 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: we didn't really know if he was that guy, and 892 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: then have that moment you talked about last fight, and 893 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 3: then to knockout Carl Frampton under any circumstances. This is 894 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 3: sort of the you know, the mountaintop moment of his career. 895 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 3: But you add in what happened. Look, that's the true 896 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: measure of a real man. He got we scot you know, 897 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: we were all over him last fight against O Kendo 898 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 3: in the midst of the quarantine. It looked Luke like 899 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 3: he was trying to quit or playing with the disqualification 900 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 3: rules and just not fighting hard and being very affected 901 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: by by some of the fouls that happened. And and 902 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 3: you know, one, obviously we're not in there, we're not 903 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 3: going through that. But two we knew coming in with 904 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 3: with this guy's history of how tough he was, and 905 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: you know, mentally and and and that. 906 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 4: But did I believe he could summon this performance. 907 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: No, I didn't believe. I could understand why the betting 908 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 3: odds were so close, even though Frampton had said ahead 909 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: of time that he would retire if he lost. But 910 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 3: it seemed more like him just putting extra pressure on 911 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: himself to get another big win, get a title back, 912 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: and try to get back into some big fights. You 913 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: gotta give herring, I mean so much credit here, Luke, 914 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: because you know, skill for skill, he's not better than 915 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: Carl Frampton. I thought this would be a long night 916 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 3: at the office and he just bit down and believed 917 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 3: in his power and those knockdowns were brutal that left uppercut. Look, 918 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there's he put it on Carl Frampton, and 919 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: you know, obviously we can talk about Frampton the second, 920 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 3: but this is this is a man's win right here. 921 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 3: This was going out there and it right and shout 922 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: out to Jamel Herring. This this is gonna go down 923 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 3: as one of the best wins of this calendar year. Luke, 924 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: He's not gonna win fight of the year. It's not 925 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 3: the fight of the year under any circumstance. But this 926 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: was a hell of a victory for somebody who needed 927 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 3: this type of moment. It's too easy to get a 928 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: belt these days, Luke, under over beating you know, a 929 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: guy for the vacant belt or what interim title, and they, 930 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 3: you know, raise you up as the full Nobody has 931 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: to beat anybody anymore to become a champion, is really 932 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He's knocked out Carl Frampton like that. 933 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 3: You know that that's the moment right there, and well done, 934 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 3: Jamel Herring. 935 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I don't have much to add to that, 936 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: except you know, you could tell what he he he 937 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: this fight was not merely about winning. It was about 938 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: reflecting the kind of character with which he competes, which 939 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: was not really all that evident in the last fight, 940 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: or at least, you know, maybe the last fight was 941 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: not the best demonstration of it. He knew for himself, 942 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: forget even just anybody else watching, for himself, he had 943 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: to come out here and show real fighting spirit. And 944 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: by the way, credits Carl Frampton, who who I think 945 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: was a little bit frustrated at the end of Herring's 946 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: reach and this decided, you know what, let's bang, Let's bang, 947 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: Taito Ivasa and Greg Hardy, let's bang, and tried to 948 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: really open up. But that only that only I think 949 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: you would agree BC. When he did that, that actually 950 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: just facilitated his demise because it allowed for a guy 951 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: like Herring to fight fire with fire at that point, 952 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: and he was just doing better that night. So it 953 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: didn't work out for him. But I give credit to 954 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: Carl Frampton for the way he thought. I give unbelievable 955 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: semper five credit to Jim Minel Herring for coming out 956 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: here and putting stamp on things. Let's talk about Frampton 957 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: for a second. He wanted to be the first Irish 958 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: fighter to get three world titles. He only got two, 959 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: which is still pretty great obviously, and he now calls 960 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: it a career. He said he wanted to go back 961 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: to his family, which, believe me, dude, I understand now 962 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: more than I ever have in my life. What can 963 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: we say about the career of Carl Frampton? 964 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 3: Just such a fricking classy individual. I love me, I 965 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 3: love me some Carl Frampton and you know he has 966 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: the accomplishments to go down as a legend and he's 967 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 3: had a great career. I really actually double down respect 968 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 3: on him being a man of his word and saying, 969 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 3: you know, I said I'd retire if I lost this. 970 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: He just knocked me out. I'm walking away. And the 971 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 3: reason why I believe it is because for some reason, 972 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: luke guys in the UK when they when they walk 973 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 3: away for good, they tend to stick with that. And 974 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 3: he tends to know that this was the time that 975 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 3: you know, this was the end of the days for 976 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 3: him to give the very best. And if you can't 977 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 3: give your very best, y be out there. So what 978 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 3: has this guy giving us a very classy career? You're 979 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 3: seeing the highlights there his two fight series with Leo 980 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 3: Santa Cruz in which they split them both Fight of 981 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 3: the Year contenders. This is you know, this was high theater. 982 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 3: This was two of the best all action fights which 983 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 3: retained high level pound four pound skill. I mean, these 984 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 3: were instant classics when they broke out in twenty eighteen 985 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 3: and nineteen. I believe he also had that big showdown 986 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 3: with Scott Quigg which had been building for years in 987 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: the UK and in Ireland as this you know, big 988 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 3: crossover moment. Well he went out there and he won 989 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 3: the fight. Not the best fight ever, but he went 990 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 3: out there and he won that. So he's had some 991 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 3: big wins in his run, Luke, He's bounced back from defeats. 992 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 3: Be in the h Josh Warrington fight. We really should 993 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 3: have believed what we saw in terms of a once 994 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 3: great fighter slowing down. But he's got nothing to hang 995 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 3: you know, his head negatively on, Luke. He was the 996 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 3: Belfast boy still is. You know him and Van Morrison, 997 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 3: those are the true stars of that city, Luke. If 998 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 3: you the no that really know and forget uh Northern 999 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 3: Irish to Irish declaration there, this guy's one of the 1000 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 3: best from that that great Island Luke that we've seen 1001 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: so well done on a great career. I don't think 1002 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: we'll see it to get him again. I would have 1003 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: loved to have seen the trilogy with Leo, but I 1004 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 3: guess we're gonna have to enjoy the the first two 1005 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 3: on rewatch Luke one day, you and I with a 1006 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 3: crack of cold one. Maybe put on the cameras rewatch 1007 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 3: those bad boys again. 1008 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: Well said, uh to, you're from your lips to God's ears. Okay, 1009 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: let's go to the next MMA topic. So one has 1010 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: an interesting moment. Now they've aired some stuff before on TNT, 1011 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: whether it was recorded or some other kind of event, 1012 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have their North American live television debut. 1013 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: It appears on Wednesday. It'll be one on TNT. It's 1014 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: going to have the return BC of Demetrius Johnson. It's 1015 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: going to have the return of Eddie Alvarez. Demetrius will 1016 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: be fighting for the Flyway title against the current champion, 1017 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: and I think Alvarez fights Yuri Lapicus, I believe it's 1018 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: his name. There's some other fights on the car. We 1019 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: talked earlier about some of the challenges that Bell tore 1020 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: faces in this new era as they want to capture 1021 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: the fans attention, BC, what are you really expecting from one? 1022 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, they have an interesting consumer pitch, which is 1023 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: that our rules are different, we have a different way 1024 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: of scoring, we have all different kinds of permutations we 1025 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 1: can play with because we're not controlled by the government. 1026 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: But the same time, is that enough to get the 1027 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: average MMA fans attention even with two former UFC figures 1028 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: that some fans might know. 1029 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like the timing on this is tough Luke, 1030 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 3: because this is supposed to be one big moment. I 1031 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 3: give him a lot of credit after initially having that 1032 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 3: deal with TNT and Bleacher Report and the full company there, 1033 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 3: that they're finally doing what they wanted to do, which is, 1034 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 3: you know, be in primetime on US soil on the 1035 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 3: major network there, TNT, and I know they want to 1036 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 3: make where's this card. 1037 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: Airing from Luke Singapore? 1038 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 3: Singapore? Okay, so this isn't their US debut, which which 1039 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 3: for them, you know, hopefully will still be a big 1040 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,439 Speaker 3: show and a big opportunity to splash. I just think 1041 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 3: they had a little bit of momentum when they first 1042 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 3: signed these names and then you know, covid hit and 1043 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 3: I think this is kind of coming under the radar 1044 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 3: right now. Even though there's good name power on it, 1045 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 3: I don't see a ton of people talking about it. 1046 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,760 Speaker 3: They do have a chance, though, to win some hearts. 1047 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what the buzz will be like to 1048 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: see this, but they've got the right network to sort 1049 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 3: of make a launch. Are in the States, and again 1050 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 3: they've got matchups that we kind of need to see. 1051 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 3: This is a tough fight for Demitrius Johnson straight up. 1052 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 3: I mean, this will be a very good fight as 1053 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 3: he's going fresh off the tournament win to face the 1054 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: real champion at that weight class. And I obviously want 1055 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 3: to see Eddie Alvason under anyone, under any circumstance. But 1056 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 3: I don't feel like the buzz could be there for 1057 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 3: them here, Luke what it could be. But maybe they 1058 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 3: maybe if this show kills And you know, as much 1059 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 3: as we've joked at times about some of the marketing 1060 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 3: ploys and aggressiveness of the one PR staff and filling 1061 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 3: our inboxes and text messages and answering. 1062 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: Machines, oh no, they don't do that with me. 1063 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: And WhatsApp and knocking on my front door, and you know, 1064 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 3: putting the hands on my children now, you know, really 1065 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 3: really just harassment to the professional degree. Outside of that, Luke, 1066 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 3: I mean, their product is fun. You see a lot 1067 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: of have you seen this shit come out of there? 1068 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 3: So you know, maybe this will maybe it will be 1069 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,479 Speaker 3: the results of this card that will bang the drum 1070 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 3: a little bit for them. But you know, look, MMA 1071 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 3: is hot right now, It's not a bad time to 1072 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 3: do this, Luke. I just feel like timing wise in 1073 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 3: terms of getting average fans to care, I don't know. 1074 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 3: I don't know how many average MMA fans even know 1075 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 3: that this is gonna be on, is what I'm saying. 1076 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either. I'll be curious to see 1077 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: what the ratings will be they put together. Again, I 1078 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: think for a company that is based in Southeast Asia 1079 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: and largely appear to the various Asian communities, right, that's 1080 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: where most of their market is coming to North America 1081 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: makes sense because it's a big market. It's an advanced 1082 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 1: market for MMA tastes. Right. People know what MMA is here, 1083 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: they like it a lot, at least in a relative 1084 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 1: to other places. But again, it's like, what are you 1085 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: gonna show us that either is gonna grab attention or 1086 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: make folks care or whatever. It's like, Oh, it's more 1087 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: MMA with a slightly different rule set. Given the way 1088 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: that they're presenting to the product, I don't I don't 1089 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: know how commanding a pitch that is, to be quite 1090 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: honest with you. In fact, I don't think it's very 1091 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: commanding at all. It's a fine card. I don't hate it. 1092 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: It's you know, I'll put the DVR on, no problem. 1093 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: But I'm just a you know, ten pm on a 1094 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday night started the card for you know, for this 1095 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: is like, that's not really a very effective way to 1096 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: enter a market. I don't think. Although TNT is a 1097 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: very highly rated channel, Oge. 1098 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 3: I mean you well think, look, look, let's not completely 1099 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean look, if this was a Saturday night up 1100 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 3: against anything from college basketball to boxing and other mixed 1101 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 3: martial arts, I may have more of an issue. I 1102 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 3: think the Wednesday night seems kind of smart, right that 1103 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 3: that's when you could get people to stumble into TNT 1104 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: looking for like, I don't know, reruns of great nineties 1105 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 3: movies like The Firm or The Fugitive. You know, they 1106 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: know drama. 1107 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: Luke. 1108 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 3: Maybe that maybe they'll stumble into it. Hey, look who's 1109 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 3: stumbled into this? Luke? Hey, check it out, guy. 1110 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: Is this that stray you picked up in the alley? 1111 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 3: Hey buddy, Now he's not feeling the show today. It's 1112 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 3: not he's not. Hey, alright, sorry, sorry, Luke, sorry to interrupt. 1113 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: That, Yo, Reggie fuck his ass up? Yeah, uh okay, 1114 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: well it'll be curious to see. By the way, did 1115 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: you know that one is promoting the uh you know 1116 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: that apprentice? They did that Nubs Apprentice? 1117 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're there. 1118 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean you know, it's just the status shit. Ever, 1119 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: they're calling it the most watched English language reality series 1120 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: premiere in twenty twenty one in Asia. 1121 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 3: With the lights off or yes. 1122 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: Yes, smoking in the room while eating hot pockets? Yes, 1123 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: among that demo it's number one. 1124 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 3: I want to red. Reggie Jackson is a huge fan 1125 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 3: of Jatre loved. 1126 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: What he's doing. At least somebody is okay see last 1127 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: not least there haven't been. 1128 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 3: Called Reggie homeless? Is that where you're going with that joke? 1129 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 1: Luke, Listen, I picked my cat up off the street. 1130 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: Who cares? 1131 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 3: Okay, all right? I love homeless cats. 1132 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh b c Why do you court trouble unnecessarily. 1133 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 3: H I'm naughty by nature, not because I hate you. 1134 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand. All right, let's go to last 1135 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: topic here before we get to your questions. Let's talk 1136 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: fight announcements. There's just a bunch of quick hitters. B See. 1137 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to go down the list, and I want 1138 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: you to tell me what you think of them. Okay, yeah, 1139 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: you ready? 1140 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 3: Bring it. 1141 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: Charles Rosa versus Justin UFC event on June twenty six. 1142 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 3: It hasn't moved me yet. 1143 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 1: You featherweight matchup two guys who are scrappy. James came 1144 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: in with a big bang, had a couple of u 1145 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: setback since then, I believe. 1146 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 3: But rossa yo, James, it's it's your boy, hardy. Call 1147 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 3: out there and beg. 1148 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: And then then you and I can bang. We can bang, 1149 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: we can bang, we can bang. Hani Barcelos versus timour 1150 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: Valaev same event. 1151 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 3: Bantam weights not moving me yet, Luke, you got anything 1152 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: better than that? 1153 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: Uh? Wana Spino versus Alexander Romanov UFC Vegas twenty four? 1154 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 3: Have you weey fully flaccid? 1155 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: Wana? Dude? I'm telling you, there's a lot of good 1156 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: fighters coming out of Spain. Wana Spino was one of them. 1157 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: Uh how about this last fight on his contract for 1158 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: Demi and Maya when he faces blah Mohammad UFC two 1159 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: sixty three. 1160 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. 1161 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 3: I don't hate it. 1162 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. This is really gonna test some 1163 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: of blah Mohammed's position, I think discipline. And I hope 1164 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: Meyer retires because he said when he retires he's going 1165 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: to put out a full MMA instructional on all his 1166 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: ideas about how to incorporate jiu jitsu in the MMA, 1167 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: which he won't share until he retires. So I'm actually 1168 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: hoping that he does that soon. 1169 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 3: Here we go be seeing is just the equivalent of 1170 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 3: a magician doing a TV special after to show all 1171 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 3: his secrets and then getting black balled from the industry. 1172 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: Yes something, maybe not the black ball part, but yeah, 1173 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:29,919 Speaker 1: everything else. 1174 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 3: I was supposed to share the jesuites with the gringos. 1175 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: Right, I think that's the I think that's when you're 1176 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: eating and you become eggshen that we're not supposed to 1177 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: teach the guilo, even though low Pan may have I 1178 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: don't know. 1179 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 3: Can you can you? I show cam for a second, 1180 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 3: I gotta close this store. Richie's a slough. 1181 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, real quickly, I'll do. Rick Glenn versus Joaquim Silva 1182 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: added to UFC on June nineteenth. Rick Glen former world 1183 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: tis a fighting champ. I believe or some one who 1184 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: would contested for a title has had an up and 1185 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: down UFC run walking Silva. I don't know much about it. 1186 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 3: I can't remember these fights. Suck Luke, Okay, you gotta We're. 1187 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: Gonna get better. They're gonna get better. Chance Sung Jung 1188 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: versus Dan Egay headlining UFC event on June nineteenth. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 1189 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: that is just all. 1190 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 3: Where can I freebase that fight? Please? Yes? 1191 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna be fucking awesome, is what. That's going to be. 1192 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: Another big one. Gilbert Burns. We should talk about this 1193 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: one for a second. Gilbert Burns taking on Stephen Thompson. 1194 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: That's a tough fight for Gilbert. 1195 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 3: That's a great fight. That's great matchmaking. I mean it's 1196 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 3: sort of like, okay, wonder boy, you're talking a big 1197 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 3: game lately. Let's beat this killer who's coming off a 1198 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 3: loss in a title fight. You know, like this is 1199 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 3: gonna be style wise, You're gonna have to favor Burns 1200 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 3: in that, Luke. I mean, can Wonder Boy pull that out? 1201 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 3: Can he out? Can he do Wonder Boy things? 1202 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 1: I think he can. I mean, let's see, lets see, 1203 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: let's see if it's in the small cage, We'll see 1204 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: if it's in the big cage. I'll just say this, dude, 1205 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: If Stephen Thompson wins, I don't know how he doesn't 1206 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 1: get a title shot at this point. And then more 1207 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: to the point, could you imagine after the second fight 1208 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: with Woodley that you know, was it three four years later, 1209 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 1: maybe even five or something four years later, that we'd 1210 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: be back here with Steven Thompson number one contender or 1211 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: potential number one. I mean that's crazy. 1212 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not easy to do, especially with a style. Yeah, 1213 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 3: I mean he's built on counter striking, which I mean 1214 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 3: timing could offset some of the loss of speed. But 1215 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 3: for him to keep it up in this division at 1216 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 3: this age without being a slugger, that's impressively. 1217 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the guys who can keep their 1218 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: bodies reasonably fresh, which is extremely hard to do. I remember, 1219 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't think Wonder Boy got put out put out 1220 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: until that Pettis fight. He got tko't against Matt Brown, 1221 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,839 Speaker 1: but I don't think he got put out. Put out. 1222 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: He just stopped defending himself basically, so they had to 1223 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: intervene on his behalf. But in general, and he got 1224 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: rocked against Woodley, but he hasn't taken a ton of abuse, 1225 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: and here he is like to get to get a 1226 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: rematch is one thing. To get another title shot years 1227 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: apart from the last title shot you got in the UFC. 1228 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: That is very rare and very hard to do. It 1229 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: is an exceedingly small group that has ever done that. 1230 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 1: And he might be on the cusp of that. That's 1231 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: a big one. Got a couple more of these, BC, 1232 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: Let's see here. This is another big one. You may 1233 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: laugh at this, but this is the guy I talked 1234 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: about when I called you co host on The Rogan Show. 1235 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: Michelle Preseris returns to take on unbeaten Shavcot Rockmanov. This dude, 1236 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: Rockmanov is a motherfucker and Michelle Prezerish is, you know, 1237 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: very tough, hard nosed kind of wrestling tree stunt guy. 1238 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: Should be interesting. 1239 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds great, Luke. 1240 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: You don't know either of those fighters, do you? Lastly, 1241 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: Jessica Penney is going to welcome newcomer Lupita Go Dinez 1242 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 1: at UFC Vegas twenty four. 1243 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 3: I've heard better. 1244 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: Okay with that, let's get to your questions. It's time 1245 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: when you get when you get to ask us what 1246 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: you think. It's time for dms from dogs. As you 1247 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: guys know, every Sunday, we put out an Instagram post 1248 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: where we solicit your questions. You filled them up, the 1249 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: producers picked them and then they send them to us. 1250 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: You can follow us, of course on Instagram at Morning 1251 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: Combat OKBC. This is from High on Tubs where would 1252 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: Patricio and aj rink with Max, Brian and Volcanovski rank 1253 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: the top five there? 1254 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad that man sent it because I get 1255 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 3: a lot of these type of dms. 1256 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 4: I just received a DM who sent that in. That 1257 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 4: was me, That was you, all right. 1258 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 3: I get a lot of these dms lately, where you 1259 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 3: know people we love. This guy's from Sneaky at Sneaky 1260 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 3: Underscore MTS. He's like, you know, are we gonna pretend 1261 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 3: like we wouldn't be in favor of pitple beating Volkanovsky 1262 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 3: in the mythical matchup? I mean I hear a lot 1263 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 3: of people say in that Luke of Late's really break 1264 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 3: this down. I mean this saint you and me trying to, 1265 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, to circle the rim and tickle the underbelly 1266 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 3: of our viacom CBS brethren. I love the shit out 1267 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 3: of pit Bull. 1268 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 4: Could you could you believe in him to beat Volkanovsky? 1269 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 3: Straight up? 1270 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: Luke, No, I put I think Volkanovsky's your best. I 1271 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: think pit Bull's probably in this. Oh, it's a toss 1272 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: up between Patricio and Max for me next. I don't 1273 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: know which way I go with that one. 1274 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 3: M I think Max is the best featherweight in the world. 1275 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: Right now, you go Max one, pit Bull two, Vulcan three. 1276 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 3: You know, I gotta put volc above Pitple. I think 1277 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 3: until I see I don't know. I think Piple's a 1278 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 3: better fight. No, I think Piple's better, Luke. 1279 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: Pipple's power carries up a weight class and he can 1280 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: go to one thirty five. That's a special dude. 1281 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 3: And he's a savage who would not hang out with 1282 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 3: us at all, like you're talking to him. 1283 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: But like I said, dude, he would hang out with 1284 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: us for five minutes because he's polite and then he 1285 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: would realize we're two cucks who'd have no business talking 1286 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: to him, and he'd leave. That's what he would do. 1287 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: I definitely, I'll say this, I would definitely rank AJ 1288 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: at the back of that pack, in part because he's 1289 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: had nothing but impressive wins. But you know, Brian Ortega 1290 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: on the ground, you're not gonna get the one percenter 1291 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: on him. It's not gonna go that way. Certainly, Max's 1292 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: takedown defense is tremendous, and behind his JAB, he's gonna 1293 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 1: beat most people. He's very experienced in ways that AJ 1294 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: is not. So to me, it's like Volkanovski to me 1295 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: is number one. I would I gotta have Patricia on 1296 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Max one or two A, two B, and then I 1297 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: go Ortega three and then AJ four. 1298 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 3: I look at it as who would I in my heart, 1299 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 3: who would I favor him against? I could favor him 1300 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 3: against Volkanovsky. I could believe that he could beat him. 1301 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't think he'd beat Ortega. I don't think he'd 1302 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 3: beat still super Prime Max. 1303 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Wow, you think Volkanovsky sucks? Huh No. 1304 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 3: I just think he's really good at what he's really 1305 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 3: good at, and he's you know, he's a he's a 1306 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, he's a smart ass clinical technician, right. I 1307 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 3: really respect that. But I believe if you can match 1308 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 3: his his technical output like Max did in the rematch, 1309 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 3: and you have either size or speed or power as 1310 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 3: your advantage, you can look better than him over five 1311 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 3: rounds and get a deserved decision. 1312 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: So what is technical output? 1313 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 3: It's a new term I just created. It's evolving very 1314 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 3: smart offense and defense. 1315 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Luke. 1316 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 3: It's uh, you know, I have my own uh compy 1317 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 3: box for that. So, Luke, what I'm saying is, uh, 1318 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 3: I think Orteko is a bad matchup for him Max, 1319 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 3: maybe maybe even zabat Okay, because I know a lot 1320 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 3: of people out there still sore at me for believing 1321 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 3: that Zabeat is going to be the best at this 1322 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 3: weight class in a year. But uh, you know, try 1323 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 3: me all right? 1324 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: From j Rocked from j rock t or Rocked eleven 1325 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: or one to one or what the fuck you say 1326 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: this name on the wheel of death. When Luke had 1327 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 1: to propose changes to Belatoor, why not add a one 1328 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: sixty five pound division. It'd be the first major organization 1329 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: to do so, and has a lot of big names 1330 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: that they could grab on free agency. That is an 1331 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: interesting idea, BC, but my only concern would be if 1332 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you did it in UFC, you have a lot of 1333 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: people at one fifty five and one seventy. Belatore doesn't 1334 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: have as many people, Like people want Belatore to be UFC. 1335 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: It's it can't be. The way the industry is organized 1336 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. You can have elites in beltoor 1337 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: and you do, but I don't know if you have 1338 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: enough to split them in the way that UFC does. 1339 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you have the depth right now 1340 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 3: to pull something like that off. I think that's a 1341 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 3: smart move. Would you be down for Belatore almost going 1342 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 3: in the opposite direction and having as little weight classes 1343 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 3: as possible? 1344 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Luke like, what would they get rid of? Like? 1345 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 3: You know, this is obviously much more of a conversation 1346 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 3: in boxing, where the seventeen weight divisions now are just 1347 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 3: you know, on you know, just ridiculous. People are like, 1348 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 3: can't we go back to the original, right you know 1349 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 3: that boxing had for the first sixty years or whatever. 1350 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 3: Is there a number you think in MMA that is 1351 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 3: sort of that sweet spot? How are we past that 1352 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 3: sweet spot? 1353 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: I tend to think ten ten pound increment. So if 1354 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna start on the men's side at one twenty five, 1355 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: so let's see twenty five, thirty five, forty five, fifty five, 1356 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 1: sixty five, seventy five, eighty five, two oh five, and 1357 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: then heavyweight. Yeah, nine or ten is probably going to 1358 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: be about right for men, all right. 1359 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have the depth in this in this 1360 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 3: case to do it. So I was saying, do less 1361 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 3: divisions to make the titles feel more important and have 1362 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 3: more depth at each division because of that, but that 1363 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 3: could also be a turnoff to fighters too. 1364 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,479 Speaker 1: But also Beltre doesn't even have a flyweight division. True, 1365 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Have you ever noticed that 1366 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Coker has never been like, you know what Belto really needs, 1367 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: We got to get one twenty five ers. People want 1368 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to make this argument, like how could you get rid 1369 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: of the flyweights? I know how, because consumers don't care 1370 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: about them. If you care about them, that's fine. Consumers 1371 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: don't for the most part, they don't, So you know, 1372 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: to me, it's never been a coincidence that like, oh, 1373 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: just Coca doesn't want him. Cocid doesn't want them for 1374 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: a good reason, and he's had all the opportunity in 1375 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the world to snatch up some if he wanted, and 1376 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: he didn't, and I think that speaks volumes. 1377 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 3: It's fair, it's fair. 1378 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Luke from Ilia seven four five. How would current Francis, 1379 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: current Francis and prime fad Or go. Gotta tell you, 1380 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: I think Fador takes an l there. Yeah, I'll tell 1381 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: you why fad Or what his big advantage was when 1382 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: he was in his prim So let's see two thousand 1383 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and four ish, he had incredible speed and explosivity. There 1384 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: is no doubt in my mind he would land on 1385 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Francis first, and there's no doubt in my mind they 1386 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: would land. He would land on Francis more. But he 1387 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: also had wide punches, and he also took risks. And 1388 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Francis has the dem mock on Locke, I mean, whenever 1389 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: he wants it, bink and there you go. It's you know, 1390 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: on call death touch is pretty great power to have. 1391 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: You're asking me. Francis durable lasted twenty five minutes with 1392 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: Steepe the first time, even though he guys ask kicked, 1393 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,479 Speaker 1: but they couldn't put him away. I think he would. 1394 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: I think Fador would land on him bec but I 1395 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 1: think eventually that would wear off and Francis is gonna 1396 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: He's going to land sooner or later, and that's going 1397 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: to be all. She wrote. 1398 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're making very very sober comments here. That 1399 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 3: would mean that Francis would have to be the betting favorite. 1400 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 3: And I think overall you're right in some of what 1401 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 3: Fador was was antiquated to a different error. I just 1402 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 3: what I retain in the romanticized idea of wanting to 1403 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 3: pick Fador is the fact that he has those intangible 1404 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 3: things on lockdown that he would need to be successful 1405 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 3: chin and wrestling in this matchup. So with that, I mean, look, 1406 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 3: you know, seriously, from what as we know of Benghanu 1407 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 3: right now, Stepe is the only guy who can who 1408 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 3: could take punishment and have success and keep coming. I 1409 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 3: mean even Curtis Blades in that first fight, his face 1410 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 3: fell apart when he tried it, you know, with the 1411 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 3: success on the ground, like, no one's been able to 1412 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 3: survive that except for Steepe. We look him as like superhero, superhuman, 1413 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 3: and then in the rematch he's still got said to hell. 1414 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean that's the way, you know, So I think 1415 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 3: Fador because you know, I've watched him get scorpioned and 1416 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 3: then get right up and win the fight. Luke, I've 1417 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 3: realized that this man is not of normal you know, 1418 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 3: body response to pain, that his cyborg level of absurdity 1419 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 3: could maybe keep a minute longer in my head, but 1420 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 3: even my head would get set to hell by Frank 1421 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 3: and Ganho right now, Luke, this is a uh, this 1422 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 3: is just a nasty creation of like like the look 1423 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 3: like I'm you know, I'm sure Francis has given a 1424 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 3: lot of good to the world in as many years, 1425 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 3: and his stories very inspirational, but this was a tool 1426 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 3: that God created that is very, very violent and it 1427 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 3: does bad things. 1428 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: Luke from Rare Dubai Collector. What would it take for 1429 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: you two to completely switch facial hair styles? Luke shaves 1430 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: his beard completely, although BC has facial hair of a 1431 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: thirteen year old, but he's got some and Brian grows 1432 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: his hair like Luke's look. 1433 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 3: I don't think we're actually that far off. 1434 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean you have, We're not that far apart. 1435 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 3: No beard, but we both like him high and tight 1436 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 3: and also both get similar hairstyles. 1437 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, we're more alike than we like to admit. Unfortunately, 1438 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 1: you just. 1439 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 4: Refuse to die them locks, Luke. 1440 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: And you know what you are many and you contain multitudes, 1441 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, Did you know that? 1442 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 3: No? 1443 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: Uh, what would it take for you to have a 1444 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: big ass beard like me? Not much? 1445 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: Right, No, I can't grow it. That's why I don't 1446 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: flirt with it. It gets Yeah, I look. I mean 1447 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 3: I was one of those people who didn't have to shave, 1448 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 3: like actually shaved with shaving cream until I was like 1449 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 3: nineteen or twenty, because they just there's just not a 1450 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 3: lot going on, Luke. Okay, you know what I used 1451 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 3: to do. So I had a date my senior year 1452 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 3: in high school, Luke, and I was working at McDonald's 1453 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 3: at the time, and they had no facial hair below 1454 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 3: the lip top lip rule. But you know, I was 1455 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 3: really going somewhere with my goatee and I had this 1456 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,479 Speaker 3: big date coming up, so I considered calling in sick, 1457 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 3: but ultimately I just took two band aids and covered it, Luke, 1458 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 3: and worked a shift at the register. Do you know 1459 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 3: how like low class that decision was in hindsight? 1460 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, hey, hey jack Off working behind the register, 1461 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 1: can you chin bleed until my falleo fish. 1462 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 3: It's you know, looking back, it's not mutch of a 1463 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 3: heroic story, Luke, Okay. Do you know we also had 1464 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 3: at McDonald that didn't mean to turn this into room 1465 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,639 Speaker 3: service diaries, but we had managers that were so angry 1466 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 3: about the shaving rule. And you know a lot of 1467 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 3: guys would come in with the five o'clock shadow that 1468 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 3: they'd yell at you to go to the med kit. 1469 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 3: And we had a community razor and it was a 1470 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,719 Speaker 3: used shaving razor without any shaving cream, and they expected 1471 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 3: you to just go in the back and shave off 1472 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 3: your beard with it, and many many employees did. 1473 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 4: Luke, that's uh, that's some Uh yeah, that's. 1474 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 1: A They didn't do that at Chick fil A. We didn't. 1475 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 3: We didn't have that all right, because they they would 1476 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 3: say they wanted to send you home, but the reality 1477 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 3: was we needed the bodies. Luke okay. So that's why 1478 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 3: the community razor became a necessity. 1479 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 4: When did when I mean good thing, we didn't have 1480 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 4: the community condom. 1481 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, I'm you know. 1482 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes share things, sometimes you got to share things. 1483 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: Sharing is caring, all right, last, but not Lea's from 1484 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,720 Speaker 1: goose nofa. Someone says BC. Is this art? Have you 1485 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,839 Speaker 1: seen that? I've seen this? Have you seen the Banksy 1486 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: documentary Exit through the Gift Shop? I have specifically told 1487 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 1: you about this. If you give me your thoughts of no, 1488 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 1: check it out at once. Have you seen Exit through 1489 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the Gift Shop? 1490 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 3: What is that? What is that? The one with Kim Jo. 1491 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: It is a documentary where they talk to somebody who 1492 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,480 Speaker 1: purports to be Banksy, you know, Banksy, the elusive street artist. 1493 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 3: Now telling me it's a must watch. No, I don't 1494 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 3: know who banks he is and I've never heard of 1495 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 3: this documentary. 1496 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've never heard of Banksy the I'm still 1497 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: trying to buy. 1498 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 3: The one on Prime that you told me of. Kim 1499 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 3: Jong UN's brother in the game show Luke. Okay, that's 1500 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 3: my next. 1501 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: Half brother and he gets murdered. Yeah, banks he is 1502 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: a famous street artist, believed to be British. But you know, 1503 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: his identity or her identity, whoever ends up being, is 1504 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 1: very much unknown. And it is they are someone that's 1505 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: done really important work, some political work. They went to 1506 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,639 Speaker 1: some of the places in the West Bank or Gaza, 1507 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which one of the two, but where 1508 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: israelis and policitians are separated by a wall, and then 1509 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 1: they drew all kinds of stuff on the wall, or 1510 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 1: he drew he she or he drew all kinds of 1511 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: like very political messaging on the wall. But they've done 1512 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 1: other stuff they do. They do like this pop art 1513 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: he called he called he or she caused a bit 1514 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: of a pop art craze. We had a lot of imitators. 1515 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 1: This is somebody who purports to be Banksy talking through 1516 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: some of what they've done. And yeah, it's a great documentary. 1517 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 1: It's really really haad. 1518 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 3: To check it out. Do you know where it's streaming? 1519 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 3: And am I the Banksy of this show? 1520 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: And some degree, are you the guy who tries to 1521 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 1: make jokes so pain fully obvious they hit you over 1522 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 1: the head. I don't know if you're that guy, but dude, 1523 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: anybody people always ask me where is it streaming? I 1524 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. But you can almost 1525 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 1: always go to YouTube dot com slash movies and find anything. 1526 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: So check that out. I'll look it up as we 1527 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 1: go through. Have you seen this, Luke? 1528 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 4: So I pay for then you gotta pay for it 1529 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:19,759 Speaker 4: on YouTube. 1530 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 3: That's a last resort I'm looking to see if the 1531 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 3: eighteen streaming services my family makes me pay for Luke 1532 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 3: while I sounded old and white. Right there, I'm trying 1533 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 3: to see if it's on one of those for free looks. 1534 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,760 Speaker 1: All right, here's where it's Here's where it's at. Here's 1535 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 1: where it's at. Uh, it's at Voodoo. Oh God, they're 1536 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: gonna make me fucking show my ads on this site. 1537 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 1: God Jesus. All right, hang on, it's on Voodoo Prime 1538 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Apple TV. But you got a renter by it there anyway, 1539 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: So there you go. 1540 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 3: I'll get back to you on it. 1541 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 1: All right. Here's how they here's how they pitch it 1542 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: to you. The infamous Shadowy, British graffiti street artist Banksy 1543 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 1: has left his mark on cities throughout the world. He's 1544 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 1: coming to contact with Terry Getta, a Los Angeles based 1545 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Frenchman who videotapes various underground art escapades and later is 1546 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: transformed into an art phenomenon dubbed mister Brainwash. His fans 1547 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 1: narrate excuse me an overlapping documentary, Oh. The documentary explores 1548 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 1: where the line is between what is real and what 1549 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: might be fake blurs as modern art and celebrity are 1550 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 1: put under the microscope. 1551 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 3: That sounds a lot like what should have been the 1552 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,640 Speaker 3: tagline for our second doc, Luke, because we blurred that 1553 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 3: same line. 1554 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, and except no, uh, there you go. 1555 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all we have time for your shit. 1556 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 3: All right, all right, thanks, Luke. Thanks, you're losing steam 1557 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 3: right at the key point of the show. I hope not, Luke. 1558 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Okay, listen, my energy, as you saw mathematically, it stays steady. 1559 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: It's yours that goes up and down. My guy. 1560 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. We scoured the globe for 1561 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 3: the good and bad, the highs. 1562 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: And lows, the I'm excited about this today. 1563 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 3: The ugly shit, all that in between. It's called have 1564 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 3: you seen this shit? 1565 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:00,639 Speaker 1: Oh god, my rear end? 1566 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, look, you're excited about it. Let's go 1567 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 3: to Dubai ESPN boxing. We talked about Jamel Herring's upset 1568 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 3: knockout of Carl Not upset, I'm sorry, knockout of Carl Frampton, Luke. 1569 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 3: I just want to show you this uppercut here. I 1570 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 3: mean that Will god. 1571 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: Well sneaky, sneaky who. 1572 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just some good ish from Sempify right there. 1573 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 3: Carl's got a chin on him too. 1574 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Frampton was game. I'll give him credit. Bro, he 1575 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 1: was get Let's see it one more time. Look at that. 1576 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh but look that wasn't the best knockdown or knockout 1577 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 3: of the show. Check out the opening fight on the undercard. 1578 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 3: I couldn't find the guy's names, but watch this. 1579 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Dude. That was donk Fest twenty twenty one. I mean, 1580 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 1: look at these punches. Are these are the worst punches 1581 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: you've ever seen in your life. 1582 01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,520 Speaker 3: It look like the spinning top from Karate Kid Part two. 1583 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Actually, the guy who wons combo wasn't was okay? Yeah, 1584 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: the guy who wons combo was okay. The guy who 1585 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 1: got knocked out that was just that was just Darwinian. 1586 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 3: That looked like the first No, the second Danny Garcia 1587 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 3: eric Morales fight where he just knocked He knocked him 1588 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 3: out so hard he did a parowet Luke. I mean 1589 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 3: that's just some shit right there. Look at that. Yes, man, 1590 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 3: I should have found out that guy's name. Well done, 1591 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 3: all right, Ghosts keep the Boxing Express going Dezo own 1592 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 3: this weekend. Look you know who's back. Unified one hundred 1593 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 3: and twenty two pound champion Murray John Akmedaliev. They call 1594 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 3: him MJ. 1595 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 1: Remember call me the guy with the man bun gets 1596 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 1: wrecked here please. 1597 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, she does? That is rice k E wasa Well 1598 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 3: here's the deal, Luke, MJ Akmadaliev. He beat what's that 1599 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 3: for Danny Roman to win the two belts in an 1600 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 3: absolute war before the quarantine in early twenty twenty and 1601 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 3: just a Fight of the Year Canada. He's been off 1602 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 3: this entire stretch. We know that division is heating up, 1603 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 3: including a a lot of guys under the PBC band 1604 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 3: of that fight on Showtime. Steven cool Boy Steph Stephen 1605 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 3: Fulton Junior is one of them, Luke. But good to 1606 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 3: see Akmadalia back. A lot of people believe he is 1607 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 3: the class of this this division. And boy did he 1608 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 3: put it on old? Uh what kind of hair is that? 1609 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 1: Luke? I mean you listen if the ref just let 1610 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: it go because he's like, you got a man bum, bro, 1611 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: and I'll let you get beat on a little bit. 1612 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I'd honestly understand the referee. 1613 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,919 Speaker 3: All right, well done here, let's go back to belatur 1614 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 3: two fifty five Friday Night from Mohegan Sun and we 1615 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 3: are all going nuts about our boy rat garbage. Luke. 1616 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 3: Uh what's his first name? Last name's Nallo Mandel. All Right, 1617 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 3: I got a lot to say. First of all, he 1618 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 3: sent Ricky sejas to. 1619 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 1: To If you've not seen this, it's on YouTube. You 1620 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 1: can go and look. BC. I don't think he missed 1621 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 1: a punch, and every punch he landed had authority behind it. 1622 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 3: It was sharp, accurate and powerful, and I mean he 1623 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 3: beat the piss out of this guy. 1624 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 4: But the scariest part is watch the walk off. 1625 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 3: Look. I say this with as much uh you know, 1626 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 3: nice at ease as I can. 1627 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 4: That's sociopath level behavior. 1628 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 3: I mean he just walked off like all right, uh 1629 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 3: you know what, time's wapping around you know what I 1630 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 3: mean that this guy is a stone cold killer and 1631 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 3: he's a creeper too. 1632 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 4: Look, I love me some rat garbage, right yeah. 1633 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Rat garbage is like legitimately an incredibly interesting person. He 1634 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: has an unusual name, an unusual look. But when it's time, 1635 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,920 Speaker 1: look at this liter, at this fool this guy was 1636 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: you think this guy was back in your groceries or something. 1637 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's you know, in the park having coffee 1638 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,759 Speaker 1: or something like you'd find him at a yoga studio before. 1639 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 1: You'd find him at an MMA gym and he will 1640 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: fuck you up. He is. 1641 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 3: His neighbors are like, we never saw it coming. The 1642 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 3: mass murders. He was such a nice guy. He did 1643 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 3: yoga in the backyard every day. Yes, no, I'm a stay. Yes. 1644 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,640 Speaker 1: And he just stretches. It looks like he stretches in 1645 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: the morning, just bayly twisting a rabbit's head completely off 1646 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 1: its body, you know, like dude, like that's how you 1647 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:02,639 Speaker 1: open a pickle jar. 1648 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 3: He just goes, all right, if I secure an interview, 1649 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 3: will you appear in this interview, Luke, I think we 1650 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 3: need hundred Okay, in. 1651 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 1: All seriousness, he's Faraza hobby trained, so he's out of 1652 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,320 Speaker 1: I think he's out of Trystar. He he might be 1653 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 1: the real deal. Belator's prelim cards are more like boxing 1654 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 1: prelim cards, where you know they're just filling it up 1655 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: sometimes or guys will have one fight deals or they'll 1656 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,840 Speaker 1: actually be fighting for another promoter that's regional, and then 1657 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 1: they'll just have them on the card to like sell tickets. 1658 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: That's less so for this last one because they're in 1659 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 1: the bubble. But historically speaking that's been the case. But 1660 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,879 Speaker 1: This looks to me like a guy on the prelims 1661 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 1: that they were giving. He's fought a belt o before 1662 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 1: that they're given a real tryout to because he looks good. 1663 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: He's a good Paul. 1664 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 3: I mean that was an ass kicking. You mentioned regional Mma, Luke. 1665 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 3: You know anything can happen there. So let's do a 1666 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,480 Speaker 3: nice little roundup. How about we start with c FFL 1667 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,719 Speaker 3: was on UFC Fight Pass Ko of the Year contender 1668 01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 3: A hold. 1669 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: That son Wow wow, yeah, dude, this is nice steps 1670 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: across bang. 1671 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 3: Oh that was spinny shit done right. Wow, all right, 1672 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 3: let's go over to Brave Mma. 1673 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 1: Luke. 1674 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 3: This is nw ross Abzoch. What the hell kind of 1675 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 3: choke is this? Luke? 1676 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,480 Speaker 1: High elbow guillotine? 1677 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 3: Good God? 1678 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Then he lets it. Yeah, now it's yeah, it's still 1679 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 1: high up. Well now it's just a regular guillotine. Before 1680 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: it was high elbow. Dude. 1681 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 3: He but cheatah he John Jones on the cheetad him 1682 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 3: right there. He just left the dead body hanging. Luke. 1683 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was. He tried to turn out of it, 1684 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,719 Speaker 1: and then he stops to turn, and then he comes 1685 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 1: back around bellied out, and then it just becomes a 1686 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: regular guillotine. Yeah, it's high elbow. Your reason why so 1687 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,799 Speaker 1: that the person can't fight it? You actually put the elbow. 1688 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of a late stopish that look 1689 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,559 Speaker 3: that he could have killed the guy, right. 1690 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean if he held it for a few more 1691 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: minutes or something. No. Yeah, yeah, that's not great. 1692 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 3: That's not great. It's not great. Well, sometimes they get 1693 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 3: revenge on the refs, Luke. Check out the dude after 1694 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 3: the TapouT loss on the regional scene. Uh, sorry, not 1695 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 3: a tap out after the stoppage. This guy's not done fighting, Luke. 1696 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: Oh god, oh god, that's like kind of in there 1697 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. 1698 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 4: He's taping, Luke. 1699 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little revenge against the authority. 1700 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 1: Right. Oh man, Yeah, you know what, actually did it 1701 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 1: pretty well too. 1702 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a championship. Sorry, that's not regional mma, Luke, 1703 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 3: that's one championship. A lot of weird shit will happen 1704 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 3: in that ring there. 1705 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 1: Wow, he gets a stretch on the leg, but he 1706 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,880 Speaker 1: doesn't like he's doing like a knee bar, but like 1707 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 1: with a heel hook grip. It's weird. 1708 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, all right, let's go over to a fame mma. Luke, 1709 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,759 Speaker 3: did you see this cringey way in? What is going 1710 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 3: on here? 1711 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,120 Speaker 1: Aren't these like you're kind of you know. 1712 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 4: Okay, but watching you, I don't understand her, Luke, She's scared. 1713 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,719 Speaker 1: Like her tattoos. No, I like her tattoos. 1714 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 3: They're nice, okay, but watch the behavior. It's very. 1715 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: They have the same face. 1716 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. 1717 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 1: They have the same face. 1718 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 3: I kind of like it though. 1719 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 1: Do they all get surgery at the same place? 1720 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,600 Speaker 4: Actually, I think I like it a lot. 1721 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 1: I think I think they get surgery at the same spot. Bro. 1722 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some Uh, that's some serious ink there too, Luke. 1723 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 3: But all right, I'm done with this. It's it's not 1724 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,480 Speaker 3: scaring me. I've come the full gamut of her faces. 1725 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,719 Speaker 1: It's not normal. 1726 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 3: Let's let's check in with older broads. Let's find out 1727 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,640 Speaker 3: what a boela is up to you. Oh, she went 1728 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 3: to the mall today, Luke in DC to uh try 1729 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 3: to get you a birthday gift. 1730 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's what my dude. This is what my you know, dude, 1731 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 1: old people and kids are the same. Yes, this is 1732 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: what my kid does. She just walks without looking and 1733 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: then falls down, you know. Oh, like, dude, her walking 1734 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 1: is like the perfect example of inertia because once she's 1735 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 1: in motion, Bro, she just goes. 1736 01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 3: Check out this dude in the red shirt behind the ball, 1737 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 3: just kind of watching. 1738 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, oh you all right, you're dead lady, 1739 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Oh you're dead? All right? 1740 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 3: Well, Luke. Later in the day it got worse for 1741 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 3: a Boila. She was trying to catch the bus after 1742 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:21,479 Speaker 3: she dried off, and uh, this didn't This didn't end right, dude. 1743 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 1: No one, no one loves elder abuse more than you. 1744 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 1: I've never seen someone I can't keep his pants on 1745 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: when old people are getting wrecked. 1746 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 3: Well, Luke, lets let's go out to the motorbike scene. 1747 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 3: Check out this dickhead on the back of the scooter. 1748 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Luke. Oh, no, he's not going to drive off, is he? 1749 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, Well you know what, now he can listen 1750 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: to satellite radio. 1751 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 3: Oh they're on their way to church too. That's a 1752 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 3: bad look, Luke. That's not good all right? Oh, Luke. 1753 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of this Russian combat league called 1754 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 3: Thermo Pilat Team Combat in Russia? Have you ever seen 1755 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 3: this shit? 1756 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Luke, I've seen combat, Mma, Yes, I like how this 1757 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 1: either either. They just said, you know what, COVID can 1758 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 1: just take us all or this is from a few 1759 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 1: years ago. 1760 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 4: Well, here's the premise, Luke. It's four on four team 1761 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 4: combat they call it TTC, and you fight elimination style 1762 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:25,280 Speaker 4: until you defeat the other team. And it's inspired by 1763 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,639 Speaker 4: the Battle of Thermo Pilat, which took place in four 1764 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,640 Speaker 4: eighty b C. For all you historians, which the the 1765 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:37,480 Speaker 4: film The Three Hundred Spartans is based on Luke Thermopoli 1766 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:38,839 Speaker 4: Thermo Pilat. 1767 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 3: I prefer that pronunciation. But would you watch this? I 1768 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 3: know we've seen Team MMA before out of Europe. They're 1769 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 3: crazy out there, they're crazy. 1770 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I watch is not really 1771 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 1: a high bar. So yes, but that doesn't tell you that, Like, 1772 01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: I think it's good. 1773 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 3: That's a small ring bro. That's a narrow piece of 1774 01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 3: a shoebox. 1775 01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,719 Speaker 1: It's a it's a shoebox for shack. 1776 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is all right. Hey, it's Scorpion King. Tryouts 1777 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 3: are continuing for the upcoming sequel. We got we got 1778 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 3: one inside this uh this pole vault event here at 1779 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,360 Speaker 3: your local track meet. Almost they're almost. 1780 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: Oh god, that was me asking John Jones a question. Yeah, 1781 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 1: here we go, Hey, John blah blah blah. 1782 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 4: All right, let's head out to the beach, Luke. 1783 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,599 Speaker 3: Uh playing. When you play beach football, you gotta die 1784 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 3: for it, right, you gotta try to impress the ladies. 1785 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 3: Oh shit, Oh yeah, that's spinal Yes, he broke his back. Wow, Okay, 1786 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:39,799 Speaker 3: he thought. 1787 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 1: He was aj Green who was gonna leap into the 1788 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 1: end zone, all athletic and ship. I'm like, BC, they 1789 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 1: are they are they white? I can't. 1790 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 3: Well, let's keep on going on this this trend, Luke. 1791 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,519 Speaker 3: I think they refer to this as natural selection in 1792 01:23:55,560 --> 01:24:00,520 Speaker 3: the white community. 1793 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Watch me, yo, already, I got a magic trick me 1794 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,559 Speaker 1: see ready, watch this honkey disappear? 1795 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 3: I mean, is that in the sewers? Is he in 1796 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 3: the sewers? Now, Luke, that's not like gonna Well. 1797 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I can make cold honkeys disappear. That's what I can do. 1798 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,599 Speaker 3: All right, let's go down under. You know I love 1799 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 3: me some Aussies and check out this insane kickboxing ko Luke, Oh. 1800 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, I won't be getting you the manager for 1801 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:37,559 Speaker 1: you to speak to today. Pow do he ate every 1802 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,639 Speaker 1: inch of that punch? That dude bounced off the ropes, 1803 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:46,080 Speaker 1: ricocheted forward and slammed everything he had into that. 1804 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,600 Speaker 4: It took his how it took his soul away. 1805 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 1: And he got his head off the center line, and 1806 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 1: he got his off the center line. Well done. 1807 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 3: All right, we gotta get something positive. Let's let's check 1808 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 3: out the slam dunks of the week. Luke, check out 1809 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 3: this Raptors fan on ice sk I need you to 1810 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 3: judge this. I know you know, one to fifty score. 1811 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 3: Here we go. 1812 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: I do love Canadians. 1813 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 3: Oh, high degree of difficulty here, Luke. 1814 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: Okay, this is very cool. 1815 01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 3: So far. 1816 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,439 Speaker 4: Ah kind of threw it in though. 1817 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, he almost stuck it. I mean, here's 1818 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: the thing. I'll give him a ten out of ten 1819 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 1: for the spirit of the challenge, but I got to 1820 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 1: give it an eight out of ten because as hard 1821 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 1: as it is, you do have to stick it if 1822 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: you sign up for the challenge. 1823 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 3: It's very reminiscent of Dwight Howard when he put on 1824 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 3: the Superman cape and he caught that lob and he 1825 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,360 Speaker 3: basically just threw it in because he jumped from like, 1826 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,720 Speaker 3: you know, eighteen feet away. Something ridiculous. All right, let's 1827 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 3: move on to the that's the best made dunk of 1828 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,040 Speaker 3: the week. Let's check out the best miss dunk in this. 1829 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,839 Speaker 3: It looks like a church dunk contest. Maybe. 1830 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh god, are they white? Yeah? 1831 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah they are, Yeah they are, Oh God, Bill Future 1832 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 3: Bill's mafia member right there, Luke, Wow, hold on, hold. 1833 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 1: On, let's see this one more time. Ah, dude, hold on. 1834 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 1: His head bounces off the rim table and floor. 1835 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 3: Watch is that the CT trifecta? That is great? 1836 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:19,959 Speaker 1: Wow? 1837 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,400 Speaker 3: Wow? Okay, uh, Luke, you know it's uh the with 1838 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,720 Speaker 3: all the vaccines going around concert sison could be back 1839 01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 3: upon us. We could be out there drinking, playing with 1840 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 3: the ball. It'd be great. Right. Oh god, that was unplanned. Yeah, 1841 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 3: it's wow. You just gotta walk away if you did that, 1842 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 3: if you were the one who did it, you just 1843 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 3: gotta you know, you gotta, you gotta get out of there. 1844 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,759 Speaker 1: Look. Yeah, great great shot there, Ike Turner, good job. 1845 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,280 Speaker 3: All right, Luke. The next one is all about doing 1846 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 3: it for the GRAM. If I'm gonna risk my life, 1847 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 3: I want you standing there to film it for me. 1848 01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, Oh god, are they white? Oh yeah? Oh god, 1849 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 1: that's very very off brand whiteness here. 1850 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the price you pay for good photography. 1851 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: It's like the wait, who is this person in a bikini? 1852 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 1: And are they topless? 1853 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,639 Speaker 3: They might be, I might have yeah, wow, okay, because. 1854 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 1: I can't quite tell from Uh No, that's. 1855 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,479 Speaker 3: A rough fall there at the end, too, Luke. That's dude. 1856 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: She just aims for her friend. She knocks her friend 1857 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 1: into a pit of cobras, and then she just falls 1858 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 1: off this thing. 1859 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 4: Uh that's what drinking four loco before noon we'll do 1860 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 4: for you. 1861 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Four loco. This is three white claw? Are you kidding? 1862 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, It's the inspirational moment of the week. Luke, 1863 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 3: don't let anyone ever tell you that you can't do it. 1864 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,680 Speaker 3: Look at this guy no arms, still determined to be 1865 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 3: a lumberjack. 1866 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 1: So I went to school with a kid who had 1867 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,960 Speaker 1: no arms in both elementary school and then we went 1868 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,400 Speaker 1: to college together. Yeah, he played on the soccer team. 1869 01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 1: He's pretty good, big deaf leopard. All right. I mean 1870 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 1: that's a little much, but okay. 1871 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 3: Very inspirational stuff, Luke. Just like this video. It's awesome, 1872 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 3: all right. 1873 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, one guy losing it later in life with 1874 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,280 Speaker 1: one arm is not quite the same as being born 1875 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 1: with without two arms. But okay, all. 1876 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,639 Speaker 3: Right, you know, I can regret saying something. It happens 1877 01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:19,280 Speaker 3: a lot in the show. 1878 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: I can say, though, that this gentleman is all man. 1879 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 3: I love this man right here. This is great, all right? 1880 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 3: That boxing phone looks like wow. Okay, all right, Luke, 1881 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 3: Well let's head over the barber shop. This. Thank you 1882 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 3: to Hogy Farts for presenting this to us. But that 1883 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 3: is uh, that's something. 1884 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't think this is real. 1885 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 3: That is. 1886 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand what's up with this 1887 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 1: person's posture or their chest or the gross nipples. 1888 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,240 Speaker 3: Would you say that they got shafted by the barber there, Luke, 1889 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:50,000 Speaker 3: or what I mean? 1890 01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,559 Speaker 1: You know, I mean more like t bagged. 1891 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't like that. I don't like that, all right, hey, Luke. 1892 01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,679 Speaker 3: You know they say some guys have all the luck 1893 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,400 Speaker 3: at O Kamodo's. You know, a very handsome guy. Some 1894 01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 3: guys get all the best gigs. Did you see what 1895 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,759 Speaker 3: Brett tweeted out yesterday on where he was this weekend 1896 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 3: out at the shooting range with Team Chevchenko doing a 1897 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 3: piece on the Sisters. Look at this handsome guy right there. 1898 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, some guys get all the good stuff. And 1899 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,040 Speaker 3: after they were done firing off rounds like it was 1900 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 3: Luke and his wife's first date. 1901 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,120 Speaker 4: They went inside and had dinner, just one man and 1902 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:24,679 Speaker 4: two chicks. 1903 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 3: Did you see this? 1904 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 1: See? Have you ever been to a firing range? 1905 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 3: No? 1906 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:34,679 Speaker 1: No, no, Oh, we're going, motherfucker. You want to? Okay, 1907 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 1: you want to do a documentary? Luke takes BC on 1908 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 1: a date to the firing range. We're going to a 1909 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: shooting range. 1910 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,479 Speaker 3: You and to boy, you got the right music for it, 1911 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,559 Speaker 3: all right? And then then they went to the restaurant meets. 1912 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 3: You got the next time you. 1913 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 1: Ever fired a gun? 1914 01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 3: Uh? No, I've never fired. I don't like firearms, Luke. Okay, 1915 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm not a real gun guy. 1916 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,800 Speaker 1: Does that mean I don't like firearms? 1917 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 3: Uh? I don't feel I have a need for them 1918 01:29:58,439 --> 01:29:58,880 Speaker 3: in my life. 1919 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but I don't have. I don't own any firearms. 1920 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, are you scared of firearms? Yeah? 1921 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say, I'd say I I don't want to 1922 01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 3: own a firearm. 1923 01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know there's no needles in them, right? 1924 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 4: Are you lobbying four or against gun control? 1925 01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 3: Secretly? In this world? 1926 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,800 Speaker 1: I am four? I am four gun control, but I 1927 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 1: am also not one of these folks who like, oh, 1928 01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make views about guns and know nothing about them. 1929 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 1: I've had a life with guns, and because I've had 1930 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: a life with guns, I really think that they should 1931 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 1: be more highly regulated. That being said, I also enjoy 1932 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,719 Speaker 1: firing them at the shooting range in a safe environment. 1933 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,640 Speaker 1: And I'm taking your ass to go shoot. 1934 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,520 Speaker 3: If the documentary, if Jake less than Jake the documentarian 1935 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,799 Speaker 3: is there, and we maybe we can draft the chef Chenkos. 1936 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 3: I know would be stealing a bit of you know, copywriting, 1937 01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 3: plagiarizing Brett's work. But if this is this man's life work, 1938 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:57,720 Speaker 3: I mean, did you see the picture of them in 1939 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,559 Speaker 3: the restaurant, Luke just all dolled up? I mean, you 1940 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 3: know Brett's doing well. 1941 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, instead of food truck diaries, we can do shooting 1942 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: gallery diaries. 1943 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 3: All right, All right, Well I got one more clip 1944 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,960 Speaker 3: for you, not necessarily related to Brett, but you know, 1945 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 3: depending what you think about it, Luke, there's like. 1946 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: Here's my impression of Luke watching Red Tube. 1947 01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 3: Yes, Brett was like, hold on, sisters, I'm kind of 1948 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,679 Speaker 3: going the back for a second. Yeah, right, that's awful, 1949 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 3: That's just awful, great, great, from a great journalist. Okay, Luke, 1950 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:35,400 Speaker 3: that's just a. 1951 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Great there's a lot of ranch on your shitty pizza there. 1952 01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. Uh so, Luke. Yeah, you can't. 1953 01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 3: You can't make me own a gun. I don't need 1954 01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:43,800 Speaker 3: a four I don't. 1955 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,559 Speaker 1: I don't own a gun. And you can own guns 1956 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 1: here much more easily than you used to be able 1957 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,000 Speaker 1: to due to some changes in the law. 1958 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,600 Speaker 3: But look, if I didn't believe in my ability to 1959 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 3: sync that in against you, you know, then maybe I'd 1960 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 3: consider packing heat, packing some heat. But uh yeah, b. 1961 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 1: See what kind of things would you say you've done 1962 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:01,839 Speaker 1: in your life that are manly? 1963 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 3: Uh? As just a couple of years ago, I got 1964 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,400 Speaker 3: two cars in the garage for the first time. 1965 01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:08,679 Speaker 1: Luke. 1966 01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,680 Speaker 4: That was like one of those moments in life where you. 1967 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,839 Speaker 3: Were like, I made it. I made it, Luke. Okay, 1968 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,920 Speaker 3: I did a winter without scraping that ship? Is that manly? 1969 01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 3: Or is that is that? Uh? That's regular ship. That's 1970 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:19,200 Speaker 3: pretty regular. 1971 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,040 Speaker 1: That's that's regular ship. But that's the upper end of 1972 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:22,679 Speaker 1: regular ship. 1973 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 3: I chop wood in the spring, Luke, I go out 1974 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 3: and have an axe. I have an axe. I've got 1975 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 3: a uh, what's the other thing that's like an axe, 1976 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,160 Speaker 3: but it you know, what's the word. You know what 1977 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm talking about? 1978 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Handle blade? I don't know. 1979 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 3: Mall. I got an ax. I got a mall. I 1980 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,120 Speaker 3: got that spike that you put in to break that 1981 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:40,559 Speaker 3: ship up. 1982 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 1: That's okay, man, okay, okay, okay, okay. But do you 1983 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,639 Speaker 1: have a chainsaw? I do? 1984 01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 3: I have a very good chainsaw too. 1985 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,639 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's something, dude, that's that's pretty good. 1986 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 3: I bought the industrial strength weed whacker last year and 1987 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,440 Speaker 3: nearly got divorced because of it. I I I accidentally 1988 01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,479 Speaker 3: killed a lot of things my wife loved in the yard, 1989 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:03,720 Speaker 3: including uh, plants, flowers. Is Luke, you ever use like 1990 01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 3: the like the kind that like a lawn service business 1991 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 3: would get, like the not the regular you know at home, 1992 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,439 Speaker 3: we'd whacker. I bought the big one, Luke. Okay, that 1993 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 3: thing's out of freaking control. I lose control of it. 1994 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 3: It's just like holding a weapon in your arms, Luke. 1995 01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,680 Speaker 3: It just starts taking things out. 1996 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 1: They're asking, are you a rider mower guy or a 1997 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 1: push mower guy. 1998 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,880 Speaker 3: I inherited a rider a year and a half ago, 1999 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 3: so yeah, I'm a I'm a rider, die BC. 2000 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,559 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you when I was your boys are 2001 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna be thirteen. When I was thirteen, dude, I was 2002 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 1: definitely mowing the yard. 2003 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,400 Speaker 3: My dad wouldn't let me near the mower because he 2004 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 3: assumed I would break it. 2005 01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,639 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the worst assumption to give 2006 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,600 Speaker 1: in the facts. But at the same time, when I 2007 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,760 Speaker 1: was thirteen, your boy was, Yeah, I was. I was 2008 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,719 Speaker 1: cropping tobacco at thirteen, much less mowing yards. 2009 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 3: You were cropping tobacco. 2010 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the kids did in the South in 2011 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 1: the summer to make some cash. 2012 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 3: H Wow, I didn't know that, Luke. 2013 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 4: You surprise me every day. Hey, Luke, how excited about. 2014 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: You say weird shit? And when it comes time for 2015 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,840 Speaker 1: us to tally up manly shit, I've done. I got 2016 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,240 Speaker 1: a substantial lead on you. 2017 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 3: Man, I've I've sired two children, Luke. 2018 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's true. That's true. 2019 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,920 Speaker 3: You have three needles without without you know, with a 2020 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 3: Vietnam veteran and seventy so only. 2021 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,559 Speaker 1: Did the vaccine hurt? Didn't hurt it all? 2022 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,360 Speaker 3: No, that didn't hurt at all. I give that shoulder right. Yeah. 2023 01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 3: I think it's because I am a former COVID sufferer Luke. 2024 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 3: Remember I had like the COVID eighteen and a half 2025 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,519 Speaker 3: at that early I like the early version of it. 2026 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 3: It triggered me forty eight hours of basically sleep after 2027 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 3: getting that needle. 2028 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,439 Speaker 1: So, you know, all right, just to wrap up on this, 2029 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,800 Speaker 1: because I want to be clear about this. Would you 2030 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,800 Speaker 1: be interested maybe when you come to DC, would you 2031 01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 1: be interested in going like legitimately interested in going to 2032 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:59,080 Speaker 1: a safe, well run, very professional shooting range with me? 2033 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 3: I would be now, what access to firearms do I have? 2034 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:02,760 Speaker 1: Like? 2035 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:03,479 Speaker 3: Do they have great? 2036 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,240 Speaker 1: So with the shooting range, they usually have regulations. Obviously, 2037 01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:07,920 Speaker 1: whatever state you're in, you have to comply with the 2038 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 1: state regulations and that kind of thing. And I think 2039 01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 1: I've never brought my own guns in because I don't 2040 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,120 Speaker 1: own any, so I don't know to what extent you 2041 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,639 Speaker 1: have to demonstrate ownership of firearms that you bring in. 2042 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: But you can bring in certain firearms or you can 2043 01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,760 Speaker 1: rent what the range has. And what I've found is 2044 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,639 Speaker 1: that you know, listen, you want to go, just fire 2045 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 1: a glock seventeen, which is a very basic handgun. You 2046 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:33,719 Speaker 1: can do that not much recoil, pretty accurate, easy steady trigger, 2047 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,000 Speaker 1: squeeze to the rear. But if you want to get 2048 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:41,080 Speaker 1: like you know, exotic like some Mossbergs or you know 2049 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: something fun, some German Special Forces weapons, you can get 2050 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 1: those too. They're fun to fire because they're silly, like 2051 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:50,280 Speaker 1: you would never use them, and that you can't even 2052 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:50,920 Speaker 1: buy some of them. 2053 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,919 Speaker 3: Here they have the Desert Eagle hand pistol. 2054 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,640 Speaker 1: That the Desert Eagle is not for you. That's not 2055 01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 1: a beginner's. 2056 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,240 Speaker 3: Arnold hand that with ease and commando bro Okay. 2057 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 1: Yes he did that may or may not have been real. 2058 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Desert Eagle. We can work up 2059 01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: to Desert Eagle. I would not start you at Desert Egle. 2060 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,840 Speaker 1: I would start you twenty two. What about a nine millimeter. 2061 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,719 Speaker 3: Call of Duty and Fortnite with my kids? There's that gun. 2062 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,040 Speaker 3: It's a one shooter from like the eighteen hundreds, and 2063 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 3: you got to pipe clean it between shots, you know 2064 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:23,360 Speaker 3: that one. 2065 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 1: It's like a it's a well roud, you know which 2066 01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 1: one we're gonna fire. It's politically charged, but it's a 2067 01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,960 Speaker 1: very good weapon. Certainly been sporting well. I wouldn't hunt 2068 01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 1: with it, but just to fun a weapon to shoot 2069 01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 1: again in a safe environment. Again, it's politically charged, but 2070 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,200 Speaker 1: the AR fifteen is actually a very I understand why 2071 01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,879 Speaker 1: it's a popular consumer choice even among law abiding citizens. 2072 01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,680 Speaker 1: It's easy to handle, it's not too hard to clean, right, 2073 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 1: I have a few questions. Yeah, it's got a very 2074 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,559 Speaker 1: minimal recoil. It's pretty accurate it You know, this. 2075 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,120 Speaker 3: Is this one of the are you taking me to 2076 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 3: an indoor place where there's like a bust of somebody 2077 01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,479 Speaker 3: and I'm shuret and like targets on it? And then 2078 01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,080 Speaker 3: it comes back to me and I got the thing. 2079 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 3: Are we outside like the Chevchenkos? Which one? 2080 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,040 Speaker 1: You know the outside ones are for like, very very 2081 01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,240 Speaker 1: like the picture you showed me. They were on top 2082 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: of the humvey firing the fifty cow with the butterfly trigar. 2083 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 1: That's cool, but I mean I've done that a million times. 2084 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:17,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, when you have to carry all 2085 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 1: of the replaceable barrels for the fifty cow, which way, 2086 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:26,679 Speaker 1: you know they're just pure steel. Your romantic romantic ideas 2087 01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 1: about the weapons go away pretty quickly because they're fucking 2088 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,400 Speaker 1: heavy and you have to hump that shit everywhere. It sucks. 2089 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,439 Speaker 1: So and I was always the guy with the mortars 2090 01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,040 Speaker 1: who had to carry like the base plate and shit 2091 01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,040 Speaker 1: like that. So so I'm not into that. We would 2092 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,120 Speaker 1: go indoor. We'd go indoor. Indoor ranges they're smaller. What 2093 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:42,280 Speaker 1: they do is when you. 2094 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 3: Can you eat while you shoot, because I gotta imagine 2095 01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,920 Speaker 3: having like eating beef while you shoot things is probably 2096 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,160 Speaker 3: a man sandwich, Luke. 2097 01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,800 Speaker 1: I have not been to a range that allows that. 2098 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,360 Speaker 1: Usually food consumption would not be a thing you want 2099 01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 1: to do. But what you do is you rent like 2100 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,840 Speaker 1: a booth, and you pick whatever weapon you want, and 2101 01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,200 Speaker 1: you going to get your target and tar. It can 2102 01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 1: be like concentric circles. I have been to some places 2103 01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,240 Speaker 1: that were like you know, had been Lauden, You could 2104 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,760 Speaker 1: take Ben Laudden off the wall, you know whatever. Uh, 2105 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,200 Speaker 1: and then whatever silhouette and you want you attache. 2106 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,360 Speaker 3: Can you play pie punch co host there? Do they 2107 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 3: have that option? 2108 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? You run it, you run it back and then 2109 01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,040 Speaker 1: you can fire whatever how much you have to buy 2110 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,640 Speaker 1: the amount of rounds that you want to shoot, you 2111 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,080 Speaker 1: know as well, which can get expensive, but uh, and 2112 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,800 Speaker 1: then you just bring it forward. You can see how 2113 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:29,760 Speaker 1: you shot and stuff like that. Very basic, very fun. 2114 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,559 Speaker 1: There's your range safety officer there the whole time. It's cool, 2115 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:34,040 Speaker 1: all right. 2116 01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:36,600 Speaker 3: I'd be willing to try under the auspices of the 2117 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:40,800 Speaker 3: documentary b C and d C, which, look, you know 2118 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:45,639 Speaker 3: it's very it's rare, right that that that sequels can 2119 01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 3: out do you know the first one in terms of 2120 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 3: you know, commercial success. But how about critical right, it's 2121 01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:55,240 Speaker 3: you know we're talking about Godfather too at Empire strikes back? Right, Well, 2122 01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 3: we've already done that with the MK DONK two point zero. 2123 01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 3: I would have to believe BC and DC would be 2124 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,519 Speaker 3: an advanced sellout, Luke, you'd be the The amount of 2125 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 3: anticipation for this would be through the roof, Luke. It 2126 01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,479 Speaker 3: might even get you excited about this project. 2127 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: It might if you come to d C and you 2128 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,960 Speaker 1: come to the firing range, I'll be all in, I'll 2129 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,719 Speaker 1: be all and we're gonna lift in my front yard 2130 01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 1: all all the shit you hate we're gonna do. We're 2131 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,920 Speaker 1: gonna do, okay, and then maybe we'll cap it off 2132 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,840 Speaker 1: with a tattoo in Richmond? How about that? 2133 01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,519 Speaker 3: Do you want to have a two man insurrection anywhere? No? 2134 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 1: Those don't turn out too well for people. I've noticed 2135 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,720 Speaker 1: they go badly, they go real badly. I'll skip that. Okay. 2136 01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Have you seen anything for odds and ends? Some don't 2137 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:45,920 Speaker 1: think we had anything tremendous rods No, No, how about 2138 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 1: Alessio d Courico versus Roman d' lezi the Georgian Guy 2139 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:52,120 Speaker 1: event on June fifth. 2140 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in on that. I'm a big Dick Rigo fan. 2141 01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he got mad at the media. Last 2142 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,240 Speaker 1: time he did. 2143 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,120 Speaker 3: He got very up. It was a good win though 2144 01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,160 Speaker 3: for him. 2145 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 1: Okay, see, we have to wrap things up here. Yeah, 2146 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:06,880 Speaker 1: we don't want to say about last week. Anything you 2147 01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,439 Speaker 1: want to anybody, you want to thank, anything you want 2148 01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:08,720 Speaker 1: to say. 2149 01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 3: You know, I think I said what needed to be 2150 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 3: said during our streams, but I did want to thank 2151 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,880 Speaker 3: you know, all of our great fans for consuming that 2152 01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:17,720 Speaker 3: much content. It was a big week for what we 2153 01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 3: do here on MK and Showtime and the launch of 2154 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 3: Belator of course, and uh, you. 2155 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:23,640 Speaker 4: Know, I had a lot of fun Luke blowing that 2156 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:24,200 Speaker 4: shit out. 2157 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:28,439 Speaker 3: And obviously we also recorded a preview show from from 2158 01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,759 Speaker 3: the nice restaurant there that people can check on YouTube 2159 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,719 Speaker 3: right now under the show Showtime Sports channel. The Road 2160 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,600 Speaker 3: to Belatoor Light Heavyweight Grand Prix, which is sort of 2161 01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 3: an extension of the work that we did ahead of 2162 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 3: the launch of these cards. But I had so much 2163 01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 3: fun last week. The proximity, Luke, the passion, the chemistry, 2164 01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,439 Speaker 3: you know, doing these zooms. It's just you know, it's 2165 01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,240 Speaker 3: it's it feels like a long distance relationship right now, Luke. 2166 01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:54,559 Speaker 3: It feels like a like a like a chore, like 2167 01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:55,200 Speaker 3: a hassle. 2168 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:55,599 Speaker 1: Luke. 2169 01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So you know, if I'm extra cringey or nonperform 2170 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,760 Speaker 3: in the next few shows, you know, I know I 2171 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,880 Speaker 3: have a vacation coming up, so that will give me 2172 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:08,040 Speaker 3: a chance to recharge. But Luke, you may have to 2173 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:10,760 Speaker 3: move north because if you this show has potential to 2174 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,200 Speaker 3: take over the world. 2175 01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to move north, but I have to 2176 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:17,160 Speaker 1: tell you, after doing all those shows last week, it's 2177 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,800 Speaker 1: like the first time you get back in studio, you're like, oh, well, 2178 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 1: of course that'll be great because you haven't been in 2179 01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 1: the studio. And the second time you get back, we 2180 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,000 Speaker 1: get back for like the McGregor warning, You're like, okay, 2181 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,080 Speaker 1: but maybe it's just the McGregor thing. Now we got 2182 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,719 Speaker 1: back for you know, the debut of Bell Torn showtime, 2183 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, Dude, every time we get back in 2184 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:37,720 Speaker 1: that studio, it's just a complete this is this is MK, 2185 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 1: but that that's MK. The thing in the studio is MK. 2186 01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,040 Speaker 1: This is the best week. I mean, we're lucky to 2187 01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 1: have this, to be clear, But is at. 2188 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 3: The equivalent, Luke, of when you're a kid and your 2189 01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,719 Speaker 3: mom and dad take you on vacation of the lake 2190 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 3: House and you overhear them going, you know what, we 2191 01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,599 Speaker 3: long for this place all year? We work hard. We 2192 01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,599 Speaker 3: just can't wait to get to this place. Why always 2193 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,320 Speaker 3: move here? Right? Why don't we just live on the 2194 01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 3: water every single day? I'll quit my job, whatever it takes. 2195 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:06,800 Speaker 3: You want me to sell hot dogs on the street 2196 01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,000 Speaker 3: to make ends meet. What if we woke up to 2197 01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 3: this paradise every single day and felt this way? Right? 2198 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 3: You ever? What you One day, Luke, you're gonna have 2199 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:17,800 Speaker 3: to look into my eyes and come to terms with 2200 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,920 Speaker 3: that decision. You know, are you gonna? Are you gonna 2201 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,000 Speaker 3: risk it all and move to the Lakehouse with me? 2202 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 1: Luke? I might? I might? Because that was great. I 2203 01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:29,799 Speaker 1: want to thank all the fans who and the viewers 2204 01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,400 Speaker 1: who took all that stuff in and people in the 2205 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 1: podcast as well. I don't want to forget them who 2206 01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,800 Speaker 1: listened on the podcast. I thought last week was we 2207 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 1: got a lot done and some more stuff is coming. 2208 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 1: So I'm pretty excited about everything turned out, and I 2209 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:41,799 Speaker 1: was glad to get together. 2210 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:43,240 Speaker 3: All right. 2211 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,800 Speaker 1: If you want to try Showtime, you can you go 2212 01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,759 Speaker 1: to showtime dot com get a thirty day free trial. 2213 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 1: If you like it, you can keep it. If not, 2214 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:49,960 Speaker 1: you can pounce in. And if you want to take 2215 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,000 Speaker 1: that plunge, you can get to show dot com, slash 2216 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Belat or MMA four nine to nine a month for 2217 01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,680 Speaker 1: just the next six months. You can follow us on 2218 01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 1: social media. Uh everywhere, it's gonna be called Morning Combat, 2219 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:02,960 Speaker 1: same name and every place you go, but as you 2220 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 1: can see me NBC slightly different names between Twitter and Instagram. There. 2221 01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,840 Speaker 1: You want to email the show Wednesday, we will do 2222 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,000 Speaker 1: fan submissions Friday dead wrong. I think we'll see how 2223 01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,479 Speaker 1: that goes, but certainly for fan submissions Morningcombat at gmail 2224 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,559 Speaker 1: dot com for Wednesday show. Do you see anything else? 2225 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,040 Speaker 3: I just shout on our unsung heroes. A guy named 2226 01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 3: the Drunken Swan guy sending me have you seen this 2227 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,160 Speaker 3: shit clips? Every single day there's a lot of there's 2228 01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,200 Speaker 3: a legion of guys who do stuff like that. A 2229 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,200 Speaker 3: lot of people go into making this show great, from 2230 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:38,400 Speaker 3: behind the scenes staff to our hardcore of hardcore viewers, 2231 01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,800 Speaker 3: and we love you all so thank you. I can't 2232 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,880 Speaker 3: stress it enough. You're gonna be wearing our merch, our 2233 01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,160 Speaker 3: new merch soon and you're a part of this journey 2234 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:46,719 Speaker 3: as we get there, as we take over the world, 2235 01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,040 Speaker 3: as we shut up all the pretenders, Luke okay, all right, 2236 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,800 Speaker 3: as we just shut them the hell up, and you 2237 01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,479 Speaker 3: know soon one day that beggars will be choosers. We 2238 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,360 Speaker 3: will be the voice of record in this space. 2239 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,599 Speaker 1: Luke okay, I believe, I believe that we're on our way, 2240 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,400 Speaker 1: all right. So thanks to Malka, thanks to CBS Sports, 2241 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 1: thanks to everyone out there who watched, and then uh yeah, 2242 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,360 Speaker 1: we're back on Wednesday. Thumbs up on the video, hit subscribe. 2243 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:15,639 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone's participation today and until next time, they all 2244 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:17,080 Speaker 1: of your gains. Be loyal,