WEBVTT - Tech News: The Blue Badge of Dishonor

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio. And how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you. It's time for the tech news for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty fifth, twenty twenty three. Last week, I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how the SpaceX Starship launch was a success despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the ding dang darn thing sploded all

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<v Speaker 1>over the Gulf of Mexico. As a reminder, this was

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<v Speaker 1>a test launch of the world's most powerful launch vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>ever and had no crew aboard it, thank goodness, and

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose was just to get the launch vehicle off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground without destroying the launch tower in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>While there was a hope that the starship would actually

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<v Speaker 1>be able to achieve orbit, that was a secondary goal.

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<v Speaker 1>So when there was an engine failure and a failure

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<v Speaker 1>for the first stage to separate from the second and

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<v Speaker 1>then the ship began to spin in the air, SpaceX

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<v Speaker 1>chose to toggle a self destruct switch so that the

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<v Speaker 1>starship would detonate safely over the Gulf and not go

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<v Speaker 1>flying off somewhere. Since then, we've learned that there was

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<v Speaker 1>extensive damage to the launch pad itself during the launch,

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<v Speaker 1>while the tower remained standing. There are craters in debris

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<v Speaker 1>across the launch area, and it may be weeks or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe months before the launch pad is ready for another launch.

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<v Speaker 1>It will take some extensive repairs, and in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk has indicated that SpaceX may make some changes

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<v Speaker 1>to the launchpad to give it a better chance of

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<v Speaker 1>holding up to the incredible heat and force generated by

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty three rocket engines of the Starship's first stage.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually isn't dissimilar to issues NASA has encountered with

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<v Speaker 1>their Space Launch System, which has about half the thrust

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<v Speaker 1>power of the Starship. The SLS has also damaged lawn

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<v Speaker 1>bunch facilities during operations. It turns out when you play

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<v Speaker 1>with really big rockets, you can sometimes end up with

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<v Speaker 1>a real big hole in the ground. Now, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Twitter. So last week the platform pulled the trigger

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<v Speaker 1>on a promise it had been making for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks who had a verified check mark but who were

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<v Speaker 1>not subscribed to Twitter blue saw those check marks go

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye, which includes yours truly, my check mark went away,

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon Musk, ever the mature businessman comped certain celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>and gave them their check marks. These were mainly celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>who had been criticizing the move to turn the verification

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<v Speaker 1>system into a paid perk as opposed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a means of actually verifying a user's identity. And the

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<v Speaker 1>blue check mark implies, or actually, heck it outright says it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to hover your mouse over the check mark,

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<v Speaker 1>that the person who has the check mark had paid

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<v Speaker 1>for that privilege, even though in the case of folks

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<v Speaker 1>like the famous author Stephen King, that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>He had not paid the Twitter subscription. The check mark

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<v Speaker 1>returned because Elon Musk, I guess wanted to rub it

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<v Speaker 1>in Stephen King's face because King had been criticizing the

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<v Speaker 1>whole paid for check mark thing in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it makes it seem like Stephen King had

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<v Speaker 1>paid for it, makes him seem like he's a hypocrite,

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<v Speaker 1>when in fact he didn't pay for this. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of trash talking about Twitter turning

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<v Speaker 1>the check mark into a revenue generating scheme, and that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now these critics have been branded with that

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<v Speaker 1>check mark as opposed to the check mark being a verification,

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<v Speaker 1>and Musk then expanded his generosity because Twitter accounts with

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<v Speaker 1>more than a million followers began to see their check

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<v Speaker 1>marks returned, even though they hadn't asked for it. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember seeing a tweet from author Neil Gaiman who expressed

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity about this. He went so far as to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that he had not subscribed to Twitter Blue, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet his check mark had returned. And now that check

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<v Speaker 1>mark is sort of viewed as a badge of dishonor like.

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<v Speaker 1>The implication is that people who have a check are

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<v Speaker 1>desperate for recognition and have paid for it. So even

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<v Speaker 1>people who did subscribe to Twitter Blue, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are now trying to dump it in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of that check mark, because they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be associated with a perception that they're paying to be recognized.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually a pretty fascinating situation. Something that was once

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as a kind of status symbol and something to

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<v Speaker 1>be desired is now looked at as almost being taboo.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a possible sociology dissertation in there somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're welcome, grad students. By the way, this gets

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<v Speaker 1>even more confusing because Twitter accounts that belong to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are no longer with us, people who have died.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the past few years, they've seen their check marks return,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, if you hover your mouth over the check mark,

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<v Speaker 1>it says that the person who owns that account is

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<v Speaker 1>paying for a Twitter Blue subscription, which you know, raises

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<v Speaker 1>questions as to how dead people were able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, not like the smoothest transition. A real shock

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about how Twitter has laid off seven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand of their employees over the last several months. On

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<v Speaker 1>a related note, some folks on Twitter are asking if

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps these check marks represent false advertising in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>So Twitter user drill Dril brought this question up, asking

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<v Speaker 1>if maybe this falls under the umbrella of a false endorsement.

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<v Speaker 1>So the argument kind of goes like this. The check

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<v Speaker 1>mark claims that the person whose name is in front

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<v Speaker 1>of that check has paid for this service. But as

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen, many, maybe even most, of the celebrities who

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<v Speaker 1>currently have a check mark didn't actually pay for it,

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<v Speaker 1>So that could imply that this celebrity is approving of

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<v Speaker 1>the service right because the claim is that they paid

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<v Speaker 1>for it, even if they haven't Twitter is saying they did.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you see a celebrity's name, you see that

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<v Speaker 1>check mark after it, You see the check mark claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that the person with the check mark has paid for

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<v Speaker 1>a subscription. That seems like the celebrity is endorsing the service,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're saying, this is cool, That's why I bought it,

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<v Speaker 1>And that could be seen as an endorsement, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the celebrities have not done that. They haven't made any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of deal with Twitter. There's no endorsing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's against their will, right, even if they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>care one way or another. They didn't seek it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you view it that way, it does sound

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<v Speaker 1>like Twitter. It could be violating some rules here with

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<v Speaker 1>various high profile accounts pulled in by association. However, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a cut and dry case, so to be seen

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<v Speaker 1>as actually being illegal, this matter would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>framed as a type of advertisement, like it's an advertisement

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<v Speaker 1>of Twitter Blue subscriptions. That's what the laws cover fair

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<v Speaker 1>practices and advertising. But if you could frame it as

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<v Speaker 1>not being an advertising issue, if it's in a different context,

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<v Speaker 1>well you don't have that same legal foundation to support

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<v Speaker 1>your argument. So it may never go any further than this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we may not see anyone ever bring legal

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<v Speaker 1>action against Twitter for forcing a check mark on people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't want it, but it raises some really weird

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<v Speaker 1>questions that I didn't think I would ever be asking.

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<v Speaker 1>And one last Twitter piece for today before we move

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<v Speaker 1>on to other news. Keith Berghart, a computer scientist at

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<v Speaker 1>the Information Sciences Institute, has shared results from a research

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<v Speaker 1>project that looks at hate speech on Twitter. So Burghart

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<v Speaker 1>and his research team created a methodology to identify and

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<v Speaker 1>quantify hate speech on Twitter. Essentially, the team identified about

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<v Speaker 1>four dozen keywords closely associated with hate speech. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>dare look at the list because I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>it would just make me sick. But they use these

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<v Speaker 1>keywords as the starting point. They started to search for

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<v Speaker 1>tweets that contain these keywords, but then they fed those

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<v Speaker 1>tweets to a tool called Perspective API. This tool tries

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<v Speaker 1>to identify examples of hate speech, and it differentiates between

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<v Speaker 1>hate speech and something that's not hate speech. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have a tweet that is discussing hate speech,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not actually an example of hate speech.

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<v Speaker 1>You would want to separate that out. Or you might

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<v Speaker 1>have a tweet that's meant perhaps in a sexual context,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a hateful one. You'd want to separate that

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<v Speaker 1>out too, So they use this tool. They filtered through

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<v Speaker 1>the results and then they compared the amount of hate

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<v Speaker 1>speech present on Twitter before us took control of the

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<v Speaker 1>company late last year, and how things are going now

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<v Speaker 1>that he's in charge. And the findings are likely confirming

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<v Speaker 1>your guesses. Incidents increased after Musk took control, both in

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<v Speaker 1>the number of hateful keywords appearing in individual tweets, so

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<v Speaker 1>more of these keywords are cropping up now, and also

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<v Speaker 1>how frequently hateful users are tweeting out hate speech, So

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<v Speaker 1>the number of times that people are tweeting out these

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<v Speaker 1>things has increased. In fact, it was close to twice

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<v Speaker 1>as much as it was before Musk took over. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I should also add hate speech has always been a

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<v Speaker 1>problem on Twitter. This is not unique to Musk taking

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<v Speaker 1>over the company. It was present before he ever started

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<v Speaker 1>to express any interest in buying Twitter. And also, we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even had a full year's worth of data since

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<v Speaker 1>Musk took over, right, we had a year has not passed,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have a pretty small all sample size of data.

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<v Speaker 1>We should keep that in mind too. This might not

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<v Speaker 1>be a trend. It might be a spike, and it

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<v Speaker 1>could be that over time the spike levels out. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know yet, so I don't want anyone to

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<v Speaker 1>jump to conclusions just to say, all right, well, Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>is now a haven for hate and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>like that forever. We don't know that. We do know

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<v Speaker 1>that the incidents have definitely increased since Musk took over,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's as far as we can go. News like

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<v Speaker 1>this is not good good for Twitter obviously. It's still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to attract advertisers back to the platform, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you see a report like this, that's a that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big selling point. Okay, we've got a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>news to cover before we get into any more. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. We're back. Snapchat launched it's My

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<v Speaker 1>Ai feature last week to users around the world. So

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<v Speaker 1>before that, the feature was only available to Snapchat users

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<v Speaker 1>who had enrolled in a subscription service, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a subscriber only feature until last week. Now, the reception

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<v Speaker 1>of the feature has been pretty mixed, with the most

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<v Speaker 1>vocal users going the old review bombing route and giving

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<v Speaker 1>the Snapchat app a terrible review. According to tech Crunch,

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<v Speaker 1>users hit the Snapchat app with an average of one

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<v Speaker 1>point sixty seven stars out of five. Seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of all reviews last week were one star. That is brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>The chief reason cited for these low reviews was the

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<v Speaker 1>incorporation of the AI chatbot. As it stands, the AI

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<v Speaker 1>feature is pinned to the top of the app's chat feature.

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<v Speaker 1>Users who are critical of this inclusion wanted a way

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<v Speaker 1>to turn it off or opt out of the feature,

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<v Speaker 1>and currently there's not a way to do that. Criticisms

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<v Speaker 1>ranged from this is lame to this is creepy. One

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<v Speaker 1>alleged exchange between the AI and a user named Brittany

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<v Speaker 1>made the rounds on Twitter. Some screenshots showed that Brittany

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<v Speaker 1>asked the AI tool to point her in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of the closest gas station, So the AI suggested a

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<v Speaker 1>gas station that was about five miles away from her,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Brittany followed that up by asking how did

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<v Speaker 1>the AI know where she was? The AI essentially said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where you are, but Snapchat may have

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<v Speaker 1>access to your location. Well, Brittany then says, well, how

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<v Speaker 1>is that possible because I chose to have snapchat hidden

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<v Speaker 1>from maps, it shouldn't know my location. Then the AI said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have access to your location. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you where the closest gas station is actually, And Brittany said,

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<v Speaker 1>but you kind of already did that. So now I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot say for sure that this exchange was legitimate. The

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<v Speaker 1>screenshots could be faked, they could be photoshopped or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have seen similar issues with other AI chatbots

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<v Speaker 1>out there, chatbots who seem to unwittingly reveal that their

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<v Speaker 1>creators know way more about us than they let on,

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<v Speaker 1>including things where you ask a chatbot, hey, where am

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<v Speaker 1>I right now? And the chatbot says, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where you are, so what's my location? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that information. Okay, what's the closest gas station? And

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<v Speaker 1>then it tells you, which obviously points out that somehow

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<v Speaker 1>it did know your location, or at least the general location.

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<v Speaker 1>It raises a lot of questions anyway. While I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say for sure that Britney's exchange was real, though to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, I have no reason to doubt it either,

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<v Speaker 1>I can say for sure that a lot of users

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<v Speaker 1>have been vocal in their dislike of this new feature.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't necessarily mean everyone hates it. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 1>is possible that the vast majority of Snapchat users actually

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<v Speaker 1>love AI. They're just being quiet about it, and the

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<v Speaker 1>only people who are making a fuss are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who hate it. That's a possibility. While some music studios

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<v Speaker 1>are attempting to use law so that they can stave

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<v Speaker 1>off a wave of AI generated deep fake songs featuring

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<v Speaker 1>recognizable voices signed to their labels, one musical artist is

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming our robot overlords. That artist is Grimes. She has

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<v Speaker 1>told her fans that she wants to see what AI

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<v Speaker 1>collaborations can come up with. She said that she asks

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<v Speaker 1>for a fifty percent split in royalties on quote any

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<v Speaker 1>successful AI generated song that uses my voice end quote,

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<v Speaker 1>that being her voice, not my voice. She said she

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<v Speaker 1>is putting no boundaries on this. There are no legal bindings.

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<v Speaker 1>She is not represented by a label, so there's no

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<v Speaker 1>danger of a giant company swooping in and saying no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>actually we own her voice, you can't have it. Grimes

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<v Speaker 1>says she wants to see what can come of this,

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<v Speaker 1>that she's willing to serve as a guinea pig, and

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<v Speaker 1>if she can create a model where an artist receives

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<v Speaker 1>compensation when someone else uses an AI generated version of

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<v Speaker 1>that person's voice, it could really shake things up in

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<v Speaker 1>the art world. I'm not saying that AI generated voices

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<v Speaker 1>will totally replace the real McCoy, but I could also

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<v Speaker 1>see some artists experiment with this, particularly if it means

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<v Speaker 1>you can sit back and collect the checks while the

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<v Speaker 1>robots do all the work. I am being a little

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<v Speaker 1>facetious here because clearly this only works because Grimes already

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<v Speaker 1>has done all the work. She has created art that

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<v Speaker 1>people want to emulate in the first place, and without that,

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<v Speaker 1>none of this works. An appeals court has issued a

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<v Speaker 1>ruling regarding the ongoing struggles between Apple and Epic Games.

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<v Speaker 1>The ruling upholds an earlier court's decision, which mostly finds

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of Apple, with one big exception. So just

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<v Speaker 1>as a reminder, this whole thing started when Epic Games,

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<v Speaker 1>the publisher for Fortnite, encouraged players on Iowa US and

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<v Speaker 1>Android devices, to use some workarounds for in game transactions

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<v Speaker 1>that would go outside the InApp transaction services. That way,

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<v Speaker 1>Epic Games would keep the full amount of the transaction

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<v Speaker 1>rather than Apple, or in the case of Android devices,

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<v Speaker 1>Google getting a thirty percent cut of every one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple brought down the meteor hammer on Epic Games, and

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<v Speaker 1>a big legal fight has been going on ever since. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>While this particular part of the legal battle has mostly

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<v Speaker 1>found in favor of Apple, the one bit that helps

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<v Speaker 1>developers like Epic Games out is that Apple has to

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<v Speaker 1>allow links and buttons that go to third party in

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<v Speaker 1>app payment options if that's what the developer wants. So

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<v Speaker 1>Apple doesn't have to include these options by default, but

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<v Speaker 1>if a developer wants to give users the chance to

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<v Speaker 1>use some other transaction method, Apple isn't allowed to block that.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple has said it disagrees with this ruling. No big

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<v Speaker 1>surprise there, and the company has fourteen days to file

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<v Speaker 1>an appeal to this decision. If they do appeal, then

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<v Speaker 1>the case would then go to either a larger group

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<v Speaker 1>of judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which

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<v Speaker 1>is where this last case was heard, or it would

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<v Speaker 1>go straight to the US Supreme Court. Microsoft is backed

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<v Speaker 1>down in the EU in an effort to sidestep a

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<v Speaker 1>potential anti trust probe, kind of thematically tagging onto the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the Apple story here. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>at issue is Microsoft's practice of bundling Microsoft Teams with

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<v Speaker 1>its Office suite of productivity software. So competitors like Slack

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<v Speaker 1>have argued that Microsoft forcing Teams into Office bundles is

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<v Speaker 1>an anti competitive practice that Microsoft is trying to muscle

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<v Speaker 1>out competition from any other video conferencing or messaging services.

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<v Speaker 1>This really isn't that different from when Microsoft faced similar

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<v Speaker 1>complaints when it bundled its web browser, which was then

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Exploited or with the Windows operating system, though that

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<v Speaker 1>case was further complicated by how deeply integrated Internet Explorer

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<v Speaker 1>was with Windows. It has long been a key element

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<v Speaker 1>in Microsoft's strategy to bundle programs together in an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to dominate a market. While users might prefer to go

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<v Speaker 1>a la carte when it comes to picking and choosing

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<v Speaker 1>productivity tools, Microsoft's approach has mostly been an all or

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<v Speaker 1>nothing affair. Now, Microsoft says it will offer options for

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<v Speaker 1>EU customers to purchase Office with or without Microsoft Teams,

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<v Speaker 1>though how that's actually going to manifest remains to be seen. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>that might not be enough to prevent an antitrust probe anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just have to see what the regulators say. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, Alphabet, Google's parent company began work on

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<v Speaker 1>a truly massive project building out a mega campus in

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<v Speaker 1>San Jose, California. Do you know the way to San Jose?

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say a mega campus, I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>thing was to be huge, like eighty acres in size.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Ours Technica, the Finnish campus was to include offices,

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<v Speaker 1>housing units, parks, hotels, restaurants, shops, theaters, museums, and more like.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded like a city within a city, just to

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<v Speaker 1>say that happens to be, you know, owned and operated

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<v Speaker 1>by Google. But now the company has hit pause on

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<v Speaker 1>those plants, or perhaps even stop, while construction crews have

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<v Speaker 1>already performed a wave of demolition work that now looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just going to be in limbo. According to CNBC,

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<v Speaker 1>that demolition work destroyed some landmarks in San Jose and

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<v Speaker 1>forced others to relocate to other parts of the city.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Google has nothing to go in those places.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just bulldozed territory. And there's a real fear that

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<v Speaker 1>these spots in San Jose will just remain un finished

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<v Speaker 1>for the foreseeable future. Google, like most big tech companies,

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<v Speaker 1>has been making some serious cost cutting moves recently, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly a surprise that the company would back

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<v Speaker 1>off on such an aggressive plan. In fact, one wonders

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<v Speaker 1>what convinced Google executives to even pursue this idea back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one. That was a year after the

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic had begun and the world had really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>adjusted to a remote work situation, which makes it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty weird time to say, Hey, no one's

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<v Speaker 1>in the office, so let's build a whole lot more

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<v Speaker 1>office space, like a truly enormous amount office space, And

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<v Speaker 1>following rounds of layoffs at Google it measures like desk

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<v Speaker 1>sharing procedures and offices, it really seems like office space

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<v Speaker 1>isn't way up on the company's priorities. So the question

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<v Speaker 1>remains what happens to all that property in San Jose.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know the answer to that except to say, yuck, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a handful more stories to go through before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to that. Let's take another quick break, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>California's Senate Judiciary Committee is set to deliberate on a

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<v Speaker 1>proposed bill that if passed, would let Californians opt to

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<v Speaker 1>delete their personal information from a company's database if they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to. It's nicknamed the Delete Act, and it's likely

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<v Speaker 1>to face some pretty stiff opposition from the tech space.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm sure you all know, a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>in tech comes from data. There are companies that exist

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<v Speaker 1>solely to collect and sell data to other companies. And

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<v Speaker 1>while the main focus is on advertising, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other issues here, even if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with targeted ads themselves, namely, law enforcement agencies

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<v Speaker 1>have been known to use this data when it's inconvenient

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, secure a warrant to sue such information

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<v Speaker 1>through proper channels. Why do that when you can just

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<v Speaker 1>buy it? Or when someone has a personal acts to

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<v Speaker 1>grind and they use this data to track down like

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<v Speaker 1>a former boss or that ex romantic partner. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>instances of that as well. So the Act is proposing

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<v Speaker 1>a solution in which companies are obligated to allow Californians

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<v Speaker 1>the option to just remove themselves from that data picture.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the first time that progressive lawmakers in

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<v Speaker 1>California have tried something like this, but as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>resistance in the tech sector is high to such legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I imagine the journey to get this bill passed

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<v Speaker 1>will be a lot like a walk in moor door.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't simple. Reuter's reports that GM and Samsung are

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<v Speaker 1>working together to build an electric vehicle battery manufacturing plant

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<v Speaker 1>here in the United States. Now, you may know that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the challenges the world faces as more countries

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<v Speaker 1>pass mandates to switch from in turn combustion engine vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>to electric vehicles is that right now we do not

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<v Speaker 1>produce enough batteries to meet global demand. Well, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a few years for car companies to completely

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<v Speaker 1>change over to manufacturing evs, and in the meantime, projects

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<v Speaker 1>like this one aim to reduce some of the bottlenecks

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<v Speaker 1>in the production line. Now, there will be other bottlenecks,

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<v Speaker 1>such as just getting the raw materials necessary to make batteries,

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<v Speaker 1>but GM and Samsung are taking steps to build out

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<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure that's going to be necessary if this conversion

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<v Speaker 1>to evs is to succeed. Also, it's interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>a partnership between a South Korean tech company and a

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit based auto manufacturer. Speaking of GM, the company is

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<v Speaker 1>also phasing out its Chevy Bolt EV and EUV models

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<v Speaker 1>this year. This is a blow to the affordable EV market,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bolt was one of the least expensive electric

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles available to consumers here in the United States. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Bolt is built on top of technology that no

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<v Speaker 1>longer competes with more recent innovations, and it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like Chevy has a replacement in mind for the Bolt,

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<v Speaker 1>at least nothing that's meant to take out that spot

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<v Speaker 1>in the market, the affordable EV market. Rather, the company

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<v Speaker 1>is focusing more on vehicles like electric trucks and electric

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<v Speaker 1>SUVs because that seems to be what customers want, so

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<v Speaker 1>fare thee well Chevy Bolt. Chinese company net Ease, which

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<v Speaker 1>had served as the Chinese distributor for Blizzard Games until

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<v Speaker 1>early this year, is now suing Blizzard for around forty

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<v Speaker 1>four million dollars. So here's the rundown. Net Ease and

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<v Speaker 1>Blizzard were in negotiations to renew the licensing deal between

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them, but the companies failed to come

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<v Speaker 1>to agreeable terms, so Blizzard opted to just leave net

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<v Speaker 1>E's behind, and in the process, Blizzard shut down their

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<v Speaker 1>servers in China, which meant players in China could no

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<v Speaker 1>longer access their Blizzard games. Neties says that Blizzard failed

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<v Speaker 1>to make good on several contractual obligations, including a failure

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<v Speaker 1>to bring certain announced games to market or to issue

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<v Speaker 1>refunds to Chinese players. Blizzard, for its part, says the

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<v Speaker 1>company has yet to be served with any legal papers

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<v Speaker 1>regarding a lawsuit, So they're saying Netties is saying they're

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<v Speaker 1>suing us, but we haven't received a lawsuit. Also, Blizzard

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<v Speaker 1>still is not running games in China because the company

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't found a replacement for Nettie's and Chinese law mandates

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<v Speaker 1>that game companies from outside the country have to work

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<v Speaker 1>through a Chinese company in order to sell games and

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<v Speaker 1>services to citizens within China. Once upon a time, scalpers

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<v Speaker 1>looking to sell PlayStation five consoles and insane markups were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting pretty because there was a shortage of inventory. That

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<v Speaker 1>meant that someone who wanted a PS five had very

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<v Speaker 1>few options open to them. If they missed out on

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to scoop up one of just a few

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<v Speaker 1>units that became available on any given day, they were

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<v Speaker 1>back to waiting for the next one, or they would

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<v Speaker 1>have to give it to the temptation to buy one

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<v Speaker 1>from a scalper at a crazy inflated price. But now

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<v Speaker 1>Sony has produced more consoles, plus a lot of households

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<v Speaker 1>that really wanted one now have one. And that means

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<v Speaker 1>that today's scalpers are starting to find out they're just

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<v Speaker 1>playing out of luck, and at times some of them

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<v Speaker 1>have been reduced to selling consoles for less than retail price.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it is a sad day when predatory

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<v Speaker 1>jerks are hoisted by their own petard. And it only

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<v Speaker 1>took a couple of years to get there. Finally, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an historic time for the Palo Alto Research Center aka

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<v Speaker 1>Park PARC. Back in nineteen seventy, Xerox founded Park as

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<v Speaker 1>an R and D lab, similar to famous tech labs

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<v Speaker 1>like Bell Laboratories. The researchers at Park ex faed and

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<v Speaker 1>invented new technologies, some of which would emerge to change

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<v Speaker 1>the world. For example, the GUY, or graphical user interface,

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<v Speaker 1>was really first implemented at Xerox Park. Then one day

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<v Speaker 1>an enterprising fellow named Steve Jobs went for a tour

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<v Speaker 1>of Park's facilities and saw a demonstration of the GUY,

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<v Speaker 1>also of the computer mouse, which wasn't invented at Park

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<v Speaker 1>but was heavily used there, and Steve Jobs got this

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<v Speaker 1>bright idea to offer up something similar in a personal computer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we get the story of the Mac Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Xerox is now saying farewell to Park, and to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>Parks spun off of Xerox to become an independent company

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two, but Park's keys have now

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<v Speaker 1>been handed over to SRII International. That organization actually began

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty six as part of Stanford University, though

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<v Speaker 1>the organization that would evolve into SRI International actually spun

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<v Speaker 1>off from Stanford in nineteen seventy, the same year that

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<v Speaker 1>Park was founded. Today, SRI International is a nonprofit scientific

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<v Speaker 1>research institute, so it sounds like a pretty great match

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<v Speaker 1>with Park. It'll be an organization dedicated to doing cutting

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<v Speaker 1>edge research in science and technology, potentially creating new products

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. Xerox is going to keep a preferred

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<v Speaker 1>research agreement with the newly merged organization, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a first rights sort of situation. It also will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to hold many of the patents that were secured by

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<v Speaker 1>Park prior to this handoff. But yeah, interesting times. I

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<v Speaker 1>should probably do a full episode about Xerox Park. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that this has happened, all right, that wraps up the

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<v Speaker 1>news for today, Tuesday, April twenty fifth, twenty twenty three.

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