WEBVTT - John Birch vs. the PTA

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin Hey West Archived listeners, I wanted to share a

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<v Speaker 1>story I just released over on the Revisionist History podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of American conservatism and Halloween candy. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt appropriate for this election year Halloween. It's a story

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<v Speaker 1>that traces the rise of an ultra conservative political organization,

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<v Speaker 1>the John Birch Society, and its attempt in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixties to take over the Parent Teacher Association. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy it and have a happy Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to read to you from a very important

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<v Speaker 2>historical document, the April nineteen sixty two edition of the

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<v Speaker 2>Welby Way Elementary School Parent Teacher Association newsletter, the Wellby Buzzings,

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<v Speaker 2>written of course by the PTA of the elementary school

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<v Speaker 2>in the West Hills area of Los Angeles. First item,

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<v Speaker 2>President's message. I would like to say thank you to

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<v Speaker 2>the ladies that work so hard on the and this

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<v Speaker 2>is all in caps double parking safety campaign. Second item

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<v Speaker 2>sing along with progress PTA meeting for April. Our hostesses

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<v Speaker 2>will be the sixth grade Mutters. Third item a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>on safety to fire prevention. Fourth item an interesting and

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<v Speaker 2>informative trip to the fire station. Fifth item the local

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<v Speaker 2>council meeting. Key detail. It's going to be a luncheon.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you still there? Still awake? Four announcements on school safety,

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<v Speaker 2>a fifth on participatory democracy, a luncheon. I'm guessing you're

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<v Speaker 2>poured to tears. It's all so very Pta. The only

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<v Speaker 2>things missing are the potluck supper, the newspaper drive, the

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<v Speaker 2>book fair. But that's where you're wrong. This newsletter is,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact the skeleton key to understanding our political moment

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<v Speaker 2>right now, Like this exact moment, if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this episode soon after its release, there are two things

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<v Speaker 2>going on in your world, the US presidential election between

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and Kamala Harris and more Halloween candy than

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<v Speaker 2>you know what to do with. Well in this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>a story that manages to bring both together. It all

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<v Speaker 2>really begins with the well beway PTA newsletter from April

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty two, and specifically with the sixth and final item,

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<v Speaker 2>the editor's message, which begins the power to seek the

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<v Speaker 2>truth is within all of us, but there are some

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<v Speaker 2>who abuse this freedom and cloud the answers and the issues,

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<v Speaker 2>so that seeking the truth and knowing it is the

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<v Speaker 2>truth becomes a harder task than it was ever meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be. You're listening to revisionist history. My podcast asked

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<v Speaker 2>about things overlooked and misunderstood. I'm Malcolm Gladwell. Here's our question. Why,

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<v Speaker 2>in this otherwise very dull PTA newsletter does the mother

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<v Speaker 2>who wrote it feel the need to write an urgent

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<v Speaker 2>defense of democracy? She doesn't say, But as my colleague

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<v Speaker 2>BENDADAPF Hafrey discovered, it has to do with a man who,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps more than almost anyone else, is responsible for creating

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<v Speaker 2>the modern style of far right conspiratorial thinking running rampant today.

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<v Speaker 2>A man who write, at the time that Editor's note

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<v Speaker 2>was published, held in his hands the fate of the

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<v Speaker 2>PTA and American public life. Here's Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>The video is grainy, but you can make out an

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<v Speaker 1>older man, late sixties, standing in a suit and tie

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<v Speaker 1>against a black back, clasping his hands on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Lecturn, Faithful citizens, wherever.

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<v Speaker 4>You may be.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got big ears, a big nose, and a high

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<v Speaker 1>forehead well suited to an indignant raising of the eyebrows.

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<v Speaker 1>The media coverage of him lately had given him many

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities to do this. As he speaks, the camera pushes in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a recruitment video.

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<v Speaker 3>It is our deliberate and careful purpose to pull together

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<v Speaker 3>into one group a body of morally good and truly

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<v Speaker 3>responsible citizens who are proud of each other and of

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<v Speaker 3>the society to which they belong.

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<v Speaker 1>He then proceeds to reassure his viewers that the identities

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<v Speaker 1>of people in this group are never shared with anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>not least of all because their enemies abound.

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<v Speaker 3>The carefully coordinated attacks against us from all points of

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<v Speaker 3>the ideological compass have reached a crescendo stage since the

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<v Speaker 3>first of this year, with the surprising but visible result

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<v Speaker 3>of solidifying the dedication of all the numbers still further

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<v Speaker 3>end up stimulating the recruiting efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Robert Welch Junior. Consider the facts. He speaks

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<v Speaker 1>a little like a dictator. He seems to run some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of secret society, and consider himself public enemy number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this titan? Well, naturally, he's a candy tycoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Welch Junior was born on a former plantation in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina just before the turn of the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>As a kid, he was precocious and a daydreamer. Wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be a writer, an intellectual but he felt that

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<v Speaker 1>before he could do so, he had to get rich.

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<v Speaker 1>So one night, as a young man, he had a brainstorm.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Edward H. Miller, who wrote a biography of

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh called A Conspiratorial Life, Welch stayed up late into

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<v Speaker 1>the evening, writing and writing to answer a single question,

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<v Speaker 1>what specific goods in demand would be best for me

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<v Speaker 1>to start manufacturing without either capital or experience. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a quote Miller found from an associate of Welsh's recalling

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<v Speaker 1>this legendary moment quote. As the sky began to show

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<v Speaker 1>the first streaks of dawn, Roberts stared at the notes

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<v Speaker 1>in front of him. One word remained amid the maze

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<v Speaker 1>of dark lines scratched across the pages. That word was candy.

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<v Speaker 1>We've arrived at the Halloween portion of our programming. So

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<v Speaker 1>if in your baskets this year you find the following candies,

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar Daddy, Sugar Baby, or the Junior Mint, you're encountering

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of the Welsh legacy, and actually the legacy

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<v Speaker 1>of his brother too, who naturally also worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>candy business. The Welsh nuclear family of Hit Candies, the

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<v Speaker 1>patriarch of which the Sugar Daddy I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I find totally inedible has been a mainstay forever. Children

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<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen eighties may remember the jingle subary beby for.

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<v Speaker 4>Shuby beerby.

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<v Speaker 1>Welch. Was part of what I've come to think of

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<v Speaker 1>as the American sweets aristocracy. I'm talking about a special

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<v Speaker 1>class of confectioners and bakers who turned out to have

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<v Speaker 1>a surprising number of ideas about how society ought to

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<v Speaker 1>be run. In the pantheon, we have Milton's navely Hershey,

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<v Speaker 1>whose chocolates were so delectable he was able to put

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<v Speaker 1>his social ideas to the test, building utopian town called Hershey, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's Sylvester Graham, the clergyman who invented the Graham

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<v Speaker 1>Cracker to combat youth masturbation. John Harvey Kellogg, the Seventh

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<v Speaker 1>Day Adventist, who invented cornflakes to do the same. The

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<v Speaker 1>candy makers, in particular, tended to be extremely paranoid because

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<v Speaker 1>there was actually quite a bit of spying in their industry.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to guard their secrets, their recipes, their fortunes.

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<v Speaker 1>Some would even blindfold the people who repaired their mission genes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress. After establishing himself in the candy business

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<v Speaker 1>and drinking deeply at the trough of its paranoia, Welch

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<v Speaker 1>set out to elbow his way into the intellectual class,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the anti communist class. Over the years, he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a number of articles in books about the rise of communism, including,

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<v Speaker 1>per his biographer, a novel about inant society oppressed by

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<v Speaker 1>a monolithic state, which somehow went unpublished. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty four that one of his ideas finally

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<v Speaker 1>broke through.

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<v Speaker 4>He was very secretive about these because Welch was always

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<v Speaker 4>worried about the Communists as he saw getting a hold

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<v Speaker 4>of what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Historian Matthew Dallak, author of the book Bircher's, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Welch's penchant for sending secret.

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<v Speaker 5>Letters because they exposed him and they damaged You know,

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<v Speaker 5>these true, this patriotic movement to destroy communism, it would

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<v Speaker 5>be it.

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<v Speaker 4>Would basically be like killing his movement in the crypt.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The letter he sent in nineteen fifty four, in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>merited sensitivity. It was a roughly nine thousand word attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to explain why he disliked Dwight Eisenhower so much. The

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<v Speaker 1>first Republican president in multiple decades. The letter built to

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<v Speaker 1>the irrefutable conclusion that Dwight Eisenhower was not really a Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>He was quote a dedicated, conscious agent of the communist conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>operating under the direction of his brother, the affable Milton.

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<v Speaker 4>They're really divorced from, you know, any semblance of the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing, though, is that the argument against Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 4>I think fits into the Joe McCarthy argument that clearly

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<v Speaker 4>the setbacks in the world for the United States in

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<v Speaker 4>the fight against communism is a result of communists in

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<v Speaker 4>the government, including Eisenhower, allowing the communists to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the ant book had failed, the letter succeeded wildly.

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<v Speaker 1>It ballooned into a book that is over four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>pages long, complete with an extremely tedious footnote section explaining

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<v Speaker 1>the sourcing for his atlandish claims. As Welch once wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>explanations are like government. Nobody loves them, but a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>amount of both is a necessary evil. But anyway, Welch

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<v Speaker 1>was not content to mail secret letters the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>his life. He wanted to build a movement. So four

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<v Speaker 1>years after that letter, in October nineteen fifty eight, Welch

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<v Speaker 1>brought together eleven of his most powerful friends to a

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<v Speaker 1>secret meeting in Indianapolis. He didn't say what for, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did tell them each book their own hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 1>so people wouldn't see them together. Then he promised them

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<v Speaker 1>that there was nothing conspiratorial about what they were about

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<v Speaker 1>to do, which was to gather in a secret location

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<v Speaker 1>for two days and conspire.

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<v Speaker 3>My undertaking today is to try to tell you all

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<v Speaker 3>about the background, methods, and purposes of the John Bird Society.

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<v Speaker 1>This tape is from a recruitment video he made later on.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a recording of what he said that

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<v Speaker 1>day in Indianapolis. I mean, it was a secret meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's safe to assume he was on message.

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<v Speaker 1>Welch was there to start a new anti communist organization,

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<v Speaker 1>after all, with the Communists already in control of the

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<v Speaker 1>US presidency, the situation was getting a little out of hand.

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<v Speaker 3>As we have said many times before, the fundamentally decent

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<v Speaker 3>American mind simply refuse us to recognize the nature of

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<v Speaker 3>the cunning beasts who constitute our enemies today. This is

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<v Speaker 3>especially true when these criminal gangsters assume all of the

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<v Speaker 3>suavity and regalia of high office.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven men walked into that room in Indianapolis, and the

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<v Speaker 1>John Birch Society walked out, named by the way for

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<v Speaker 1>an American missionary who'd been killed by Chinese communists and

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<v Speaker 1>then became a kind of patron saint for people like

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Welch Junior. These were important men with money and

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<v Speaker 1>time to burn and an axe to grind. They had

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<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower's former IRS commissioner, presidents of major companies, a former

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<v Speaker 1>aide to Douglas MacArthur, and Fred Cooch oil man and

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<v Speaker 1>father to the Koch brothers, was there too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll wake my friends and arise now I'll be forever fallen.

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<v Speaker 3>We mean business and we can still win, but we

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<v Speaker 3>are in our race against time, with the enemy advancing

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<v Speaker 3>every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Welch knew what he was doing. He took his show

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<v Speaker 1>on the road, giving versions of that speech across the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the listeners, bored Americans rattled by

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<v Speaker 1>war and free doubt by integration, thought, hey, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>got a point. He started with just his friends who

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<v Speaker 1>thought like he did, then his friend's friends, and then

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<v Speaker 1>his friends friends friends. But Welch's dreams were always much grander.

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<v Speaker 3>By any realistic appraisal of our size against our need.

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<v Speaker 3>We are still very small, but we certainly expect our

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<v Speaker 3>present growth to continue until we have the million members

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<v Speaker 3>of fervat patriotism and unassailable character, which is our goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite Welch's vision for one million patriots to join the

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<v Speaker 1>John Birch Society, estimates show that the membership was likely

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<v Speaker 1>at an all time high when it hit thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>members in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 4>The mission was not explicitly to take over a political party.

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<v Speaker 4>It was not to even take over in nes silly

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<v Speaker 4>American institutions. It was to wage a mass education campaign

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<v Speaker 4>to allure Americans, to educate them about the dire nature

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<v Speaker 4>of the communist conspiracy inside the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And so a small but influential group of right wingers

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<v Speaker 1>became convinced that there was a war going on at home.

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<v Speaker 3>A continuous, undeclared war in which our our enemies observed

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<v Speaker 3>no rules of international law, of civilization, or of human decency.

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<v Speaker 1>But where was the front in this war? Exactly two

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<v Speaker 1>years after its founding, the Birch Society had part of

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. The Parent Teacher Association, of course, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back. The bitter Root Valley lies in the southwest

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<v Speaker 1>of Montana between the Sapphire and Bitterroot Mountains. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>place they filmed Yellowstone Today. It's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so small town.

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<v Speaker 1>Gail Laro Munson was a little girl growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>the valley in the nineteen sixties in a town called Darby.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then, its population was three hundred and ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 6>Close snit, neighbors looked out for each other. Kids could

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<v Speaker 6>be out till dark and from back home they would

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<v Speaker 6>be safe. If you were caught doing something wrong, the

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<v Speaker 6>neighbors would let your parents know and they'd be ready

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<v Speaker 6>when you got home.

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<v Speaker 1>Darby was the kind of place where you knew everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you were in Gaylee's family. Her dad, Orville Row,

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<v Speaker 1>was the superintendent of the school district, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen sixties strangers began to show up in the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Orville was busy right around then getting new Bibles for

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<v Speaker 1>a local school because there as we're all beaten up.

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<v Speaker 1>He asked a local clergymen how to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the old ones in a respectful way, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>told to burn them. So he gathered up the bibles

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<v Speaker 1>and set them on fire, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>those strangers leaped into action. It turned out they were

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<v Speaker 1>part of a club, the John Birch Society.

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<v Speaker 4>Merch members appeared at the regular school board meeting with

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<v Speaker 4>a petition demanding that Laoe not be offered a new contract.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all over the local radio.

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<v Speaker 3>The majority of the board rejected that demand, and this

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<v Speaker 3>action of the board intensified an already steady program of

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<v Speaker 3>intimidation against the Row and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>The Birchers were turning Orville's quiet life in Derby with

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<v Speaker 1>his three kids and his wife, completely upside down. Here's Orville.

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<v Speaker 7>There are individuals, of course the community who will drive

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<v Speaker 7>by and make have scene signs. There have been an

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<v Speaker 7>incidents where people are called the house my life had

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<v Speaker 7>answered and have used a'bscene language on the telephone. Basically,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's a joy, simple postant harassment.

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<v Speaker 1>An archivist in Montana named Kristen Gates wrote an essay

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<v Speaker 1>about all this. She found letters from the principle of

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<v Speaker 1>the local school who said the Birchers were quote using

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<v Speaker 1>the local pta as a springboard to infiltrate the schools.

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<v Speaker 1>Here I'm telling you about what unfolded for the LaRose

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<v Speaker 1>in a tiny town in Montana. But they weren't the

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<v Speaker 1>only people involved in local ptas or schools who became targets.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not the case now, but in the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>according to one study, almost half of all families in

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<v Speaker 1>America were represented in the PTA fifty percent. The PTA

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<v Speaker 1>became such a well known part of public life that

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<v Speaker 1>it was even the subject of a number one song

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties, Harper.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was signed by the Secretary Unprevaletta.

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<v Speaker 1>The PTA played a huge role in modernizing American education.

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<v Speaker 1>Every local PTA was part of the National PTA, which

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<v Speaker 1>was run out of Washington, and they worked together to

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<v Speaker 1>petition schools to adapt and modernize, like a miniature version

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal government. He was actually originally called the

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<v Speaker 1>Congress of Mothers. Anyways, all this paid dividends. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>drunk fluoridated water, which you have gotten vaccinated in schools,

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<v Speaker 1>gone to a public kindergarten, or just been at a

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<v Speaker 1>school that received federal funds, you can thank the PTA

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<v Speaker 1>next bakesale, maybe by a cookie. As a sociologist, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Putnam writes, the PTA in its day was quote one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most impressive organizational success stories in American history

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<v Speaker 1>end quote, and who at that exact moment wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>pull off another of the most impressive organizational success stories

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<v Speaker 1>in American history Dark Willy Wonka Robert Welch Junior, whose

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<v Speaker 1>recruiting methods were slightly more apocalyptic.

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<v Speaker 3>The wise and the brave do not hold back until

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<v Speaker 3>it is too late.

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<v Speaker 1>In its newsletter, the John Birch Society told its members

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<v Speaker 1>to quote join your local PTA at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the school year, get your conservative friends to do likewise,

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<v Speaker 1>and go to work to take it over. You will

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<v Speaker 1>run into real battles against determined leftists who have had

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<v Speaker 1>everything their way. But it is time we went on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive to make such groups the instrument of conservative

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<v Speaker 1>purpose with the same vigor and determination that the liberals

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<v Speaker 1>have used to the opposite aims. With encouragement from the

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<v Speaker 1>John Birch Society, extremists of all stripes started showing up

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<v Speaker 1>to local ptas across the country trying to take them over.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, all kinds of methods were being used.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Heath, a historian at Indiana University Kocomo.

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<v Speaker 8>So the Birch Society might pack cars full of people,

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<v Speaker 8>so if I bring thirty people to a local meeting

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<v Speaker 8>of a PTA.

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<v Speaker 6>But basically what they.

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<v Speaker 8>Would try to do is, if I can get thirty

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<v Speaker 8>people to go to this one local meeting, we can

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<v Speaker 8>try to take over the proceedings of that meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly, amid the conversations about fire safety and participatory democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>parents had to consider things like whether skipping the pledge

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<v Speaker 1>of allegiance at the start of a meeting made you

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<v Speaker 1>a Stalin level communist or an Eisenhower level one. Such

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<v Speaker 1>considerations it turned out demand quite a bit of everyone's time.

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<v Speaker 8>Because what they wanted to do was first get some

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<v Speaker 8>people to get so tired that they would just say,

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<v Speaker 8>I've got to go.

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<v Speaker 5>Home, right.

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<v Speaker 8>PTA meetings are usually in the early evening, so some

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<v Speaker 8>people would leave. Then they call the vote, and then

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<v Speaker 8>they have a majority.

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<v Speaker 1>The virtuers wanted to use the ptas to reach school

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<v Speaker 1>boards so they could change the textbooks and root out

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<v Speaker 1>all the comedy and sex education stuff. But a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what they did was actual harassment.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there are examples of people throwing trash on

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<v Speaker 8>the lawns of PTA members or threatening people by the phone,

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<v Speaker 8>calling them at all hours of the night, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>just to keep them awake.

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<v Speaker 1>The PTA fought back in classic PTA form, with pamphlets

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<v Speaker 1>and lists of meeting best practices. But this was a

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<v Speaker 1>little like bringing knives to a gunfight. At this point

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<v Speaker 1>there'd even been a report of a bombing at a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant where a PTA meeting was going to be held.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what happens when you talk about national politics,

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<v Speaker 1>like Robert Welch Junior, like you're in a shadowy war, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Continuous, undeclared war in which our enemies observed no rules

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<v Speaker 3>of international law of civilization are of human decency.

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<v Speaker 1>The PTA kept pushing back their own way against the Birchers.

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<v Speaker 1>There's even a quote from the PTA president in the

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<v Speaker 1>congressional record saying these extremists are not really after the PTA,

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<v Speaker 1>but are attempting to gain control of it to get

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<v Speaker 1>at their real objective, the educational system. But for Orville Row,

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<v Speaker 1>the superintendent in Darby, Montana, these extremists weren't some faraway thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They were at his doorstep, and I walked home in

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<v Speaker 1>the evenings.

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<v Speaker 7>At times I have had a car follow me. Ordinarily,

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<v Speaker 7>they apparently are cowards because.

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<v Speaker 6>When I am.

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<v Speaker 7>Stopped and gone over to take their license them.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was a holy picture.

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<v Speaker 1>But the aggression wasn't just limited to Orville. Orville's eldest

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<v Speaker 1>son was a fifth grader in the local school. One day,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a basketball game. He was sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>stands watching. He was not an unpopular kid, but midway

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<v Speaker 1>through the game, a couple of classmates to him. They

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<v Speaker 1>pulled him out of his seat and they began to

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<v Speaker 1>beat him mercilessly. This is Gail again, his sister.

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<v Speaker 6>And when they were beating him up, he was at

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<v Speaker 6>a basketball game in the gym and other kids were

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<v Speaker 6>sturing it on.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids weren't Birchers all they knew he was Orville,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible Burner's son.

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<v Speaker 7>Then he's coming into the house and ask pissed why

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<v Speaker 7>they are calling him names.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't do anything, and.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course it's rather had to explain forty youngster in

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<v Speaker 7>that age.

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<v Speaker 6>He came home bloodied. He was We were all confused,

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<v Speaker 6>Why you know, what did I do? Why did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>The tipping point came when Orville A. Row was driving

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<v Speaker 1>his whole family along one of the roads around Darby

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly another car appeared and tried to run them off

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<v Speaker 1>the road. They all could have died, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the last straw. After years of harassment, he decided it

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<v Speaker 1>was time to leave Darby.

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<v Speaker 6>He sacrificed for the family. And I know that was

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<v Speaker 6>a really difficult thing to not stay in fight because

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<v Speaker 6>my dad has so much integrity and he was a

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<v Speaker 6>tough guy. And if he hadn't had a family, I

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<v Speaker 6>firmly believe my brothers and I believe he would have

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<v Speaker 6>stayed and he would have fought this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>The people of Derby had a picnic for the LaRose

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<v Speaker 1>before they packed up and left. Montana had been Orville's

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<v Speaker 1>home since he was a kid, the place he'd loved

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<v Speaker 1>to fish and hunt, taught school, and raised a family.

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<v Speaker 1>When the LaRose left, the school system didn't just lose

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<v Speaker 1>its superintendent, It fell apart. There were twenty three teachers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Darby Consolidated School that fall, only seven went

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<v Speaker 1>back to work. Things were never the same for the

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<v Speaker 1>row family either. When I called the kids up, none

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<v Speaker 1>of them really wanted to talk about this. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>changed their mind. I think, if I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 1>because they wanted to stand up against the people who

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<v Speaker 1>did this to their family, to their father, and also

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<v Speaker 1>to their mother. Dorothy, my dad.

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<v Speaker 6>Said, before this happened, she was such a fun person,

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<v Speaker 6>great sense of humor. I'd love to hear my dead

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<v Speaker 6>stories of my mom because I didn't, I didn't witness

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of this, and so you know, we were

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<v Speaker 6>all cheated out of an amazing person. And just I

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<v Speaker 6>just I just can picture her kind of don't don't

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<v Speaker 6>tell you know the neighbors is, don't tell the neighbors that,

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<v Speaker 6>don't tell anybody this. Don't tell anybody this.

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<v Speaker 1>They moved from one small town to another, but Dorothy

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<v Speaker 1>never could quite trust her neighbors again. What came up

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<v Speaker 1>the Birch Society in the PTA after the break? A

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<v Speaker 1>little while ago, I stopped by a house in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>It was shaded by a sick More tree and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a Route sixty six sign leaning in the front windowsill,

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<v Speaker 1>facing the quiet street. I was there to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Marva Felchlin. Marva grew up in California

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<v Speaker 1>and was a student at welby Way Elementary School. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a baby boomer in the classical sense. A house

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<v Speaker 1>in a safe and lovely subdivision, a dad in the

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<v Speaker 1>defense industry, and a mom in the PTA that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Birchers had tried to take over. Her mom's name was Zelda,

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<v Speaker 1>and she never got over what happened.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a big thing that happened in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think the story had added to your

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<v Speaker 1>mother so much?

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<v Speaker 9>Because I think you know, the PTA and her activities

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<v Speaker 9>in the PTA probably represented, as with other women in there,

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of what they believed in, and here they're

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<v Speaker 9>being accused of being liars and dishonest and Unamerican. Those

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<v Speaker 9>of those people were probably children of immigrants. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>that's a serious accusation in those anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>But in those days, Zelda had always wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a writer. She once abmitted a script to the Twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 1>but the place she really wrote was her Parent Teacher

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<v Speaker 1>Association newsletter. It's the one we read from at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this episode, the April nineteen sixty two edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the welby Way Elementary School PTA newsletter web Buzzings

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<v Speaker 1>with the curious editor's note, Zelda wrote that when Bircher's

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<v Speaker 1>across the country, we're trying to take down the PTA.

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<v Speaker 1>She took to her newsletter to fight back.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't. I'm not surprised that my mother pushed back

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<v Speaker 9>in any way, because that's I think she's kind of

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<v Speaker 9>that kind of personality that she didn't stand for a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of crap.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Marva has held on to the original copy

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<v Speaker 1>of that newsletter for years. I asked her to read

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<v Speaker 1>me the editor's message.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, the power to seek the truth is within all

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<v Speaker 9>of us. The way in which we seek it is

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<v Speaker 9>privilege and write of all of us. We are fortunate

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<v Speaker 9>enough to live under a system of government that secures

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<v Speaker 9>and protects that right. But there are some who abuse

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<v Speaker 9>this freedom and cloud the answers and the issues, so

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<v Speaker 9>that seeking the truth and knowing it is the truth

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<v Speaker 9>becomes a harder task than it was ever meant to be.

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<v Speaker 9>I say this, Give me the right to seek the truth,

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<v Speaker 9>but justly and rationally and kindly. Give me the wisdom

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<v Speaker 9>to understand and recognize the truth simply, without unseen or

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<v Speaker 9>unknown factors behind it. Give me the wisdom to use

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<v Speaker 9>the truth properly, openly, knowingly, and in its entirety, without

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<v Speaker 9>bending or twisting said truth to fit my own purposes.

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<v Speaker 9>Give me the graciousness to accept the truth, although it

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<v Speaker 9>may disagree with or disapprove my own personal opinions and beliefs.

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<v Speaker 9>And last, give me the wisdom and right to seek

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<v Speaker 9>the truth in whatever manner I so choose, so long

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<v Speaker 9>as I in the manner I have chosen, do not

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<v Speaker 9>belittle or deface the object of my search, so long

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<v Speaker 9>as I can honestly say to myself it is the

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<v Speaker 9>truth alone that I am seeking. So the last off editor.

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<v Speaker 1>During those same years when were mobbing PTA meetings, the

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<v Speaker 1>PTA as a national organization began to die for good.

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<v Speaker 1>It just kept losing members until it became effectively a

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<v Speaker 1>loose group of local organizations. It still exists, but you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't write a number one song about it anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that was all the doing of the Birch Society,

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<v Speaker 1>though it certainly didn't help. The rise of the Birchers

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<v Speaker 1>in the fall of the PTA were both part of

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<v Speaker 1>the backlash to Brown versus Board of Education, a response

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<v Speaker 1>to integration and civil rights. The Birch Society went into

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<v Speaker 1>decline then too. It had become radioactive, mocked to death

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<v Speaker 1>in the press, repudiated by even William F. Buckley, turned

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<v Speaker 1>on my mainstream Republicans, torn by its own infighting investigated

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<v Speaker 1>by the Anti Defamation League in the FBI, but it

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<v Speaker 1>never vanished. Robert Welch Junior was involved with the Birch

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<v Speaker 1>Society almost until his death in nineteen eighty five. Under

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency of Ronald Reagan, who, true to Welsh, once

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<v Speaker 1>called the communist Lackeye. His society lives on in diminished

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<v Speaker 1>form these days. They're a lot less notable. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>one in a sea of right wing groups. But why

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<v Speaker 1>did people like Welsh hate the Parent Teacher Association so much?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me like the Birch Society and the

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<v Speaker 1>PTA were locked in that kind of death match between

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<v Speaker 1>two visions of American civil society. The PTA was the

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<v Speaker 1>vision of the American vital center, progressive, orderly, incremental, and

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<v Speaker 1>evidence based. Its model was the US federal system, local

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<v Speaker 1>and national working patiently together. But the John Birch Society

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<v Speaker 1>was modeled on communist cells, secretive with hard caps on

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<v Speaker 1>membership to keep things decentralized rather than optimistic. It was

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<v Speaker 1>paranoid rather than incremental. They called for kind of revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>The PTA was about trusting your neighbors to share your

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<v Speaker 1>trusts too. The John Birch Society was about always suspecting

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<v Speaker 1>them of betraying you. I don't know if that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>familiar to you, but it shore does to me. Revisionist

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<v Speaker 1>History is produced by me Ben That Ofhaffrey and Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>Sullivan with Nina Bird Lawrence. Our editor is Karen Schakerji.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact checking on this episode by Sam Russick. Original scoring

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<v Speaker 1>by Louis Gara, mastering by Jake Gorsky. Our executive producer

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<v Speaker 1>is Jacob Smith. Special thanks to Sarah Nix, the State

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<v Speaker 1>Historical Society of North Dakota, the University of Montana, and

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<v Speaker 1>the UCLA Library Special Collections. I'm ben That of Aaffrey.