1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Well, the Chiefs go right back to primetime again, this 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: time on the road, and this time Monday Night Football 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: is He'll take on the three and one Jacksonville Jaguars. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: But just like last week, for both teams, it's all 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: about stops and steals. This addition of defending the Kingdom, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: like all of them brought to you by your good 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: friends at Ticketmaster. Incredible schedule this year, home and road. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Ticketmaster is your new best friend. So they loaded the 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: left side Mahomesks left Touxtonville touchdown Jeans City to Jee 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster the door hinge however you want. I'm Mitchell 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: this voice of the Chiefs, along with senior team reporter 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Matt McMullen. Chiefs are now two and two if you're 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: keeping track at home, after putting thirty seven on the 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, but more importantly holding the Ravens to really thirteen. 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Justice Hill added a little seventy one yard scamper at 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: the end, but still an impressive victory for the Chiefs. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: This episode of DTK is going to be about stops 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: and school, meaning going into that game last week, and 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the offense of the Chiefs 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars offense and defense with this hits all 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: four points. But last week I talked to defensive players, 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: I talked to spags, and it was all about, we've 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: got to get enough stops or steals. Stops and steals here, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: We've got to enough stops or steals that at least 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: slow them down because they were getting almost forty points 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: a game. Well, guess what in ten possessions, the Chiefs 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: had four stops, but three of those were fourth down, 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: those in essence, our turnovers, and then two steals with 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: the fumble recovery by Drew tranquil in the interception by 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: Leo Chanel, and all of a sudden, now you stopped 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: or stole six of the ten possessions from what was 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the NFL's best offensive team. 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: And it's so easy to look at the box score 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: and to be like, the Chiefs just rolled and by 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: the time the fourth quarter rolled around, yeah, we were 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: all feeling pretty great. But football comes down to a 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: handful of plays and sequences and the theme of the takeaways. 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Think about what the Ravens were doing before Leoshanell's pick. 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: So it was seven to three at that point, They're 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: driving right down the field. They're about to make it 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: fourteen to three. Fourteen to three is a pretty big 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: deficit to have to overcome against an offense like that 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: when they're really rolling. Well, Leo gets the pick, turns 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: things over, we go down and kick a field goal. 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: It's seven to six. And then later in the first half, 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: the fourth down that Baltimore went for on fourth and one, 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: they don't get it, we get the ball back. I 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: think that led to Isaiah Pacheco's touchdown. That's how these 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: things snowball, right, So you take those two things out, 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: who knows how Sunday goes. I bet it's a much 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: closer game. But yeah, the Chiefs made plays when they 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: needed to in those instances, and that's one of the 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: reasons it turned into what it turned into, being a blowoup. 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: And I know you all love to play Maden or 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: fantasy football, but that does not take into account the 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: psychology of the game. Oh yeah, and what you're talking 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: about now, let's look at the last two games. The 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: psychology of the end of the second quarter started the 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: third quarter of the New York Giant game, and then 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: that sequence you talked about changes the psychology the game 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: for both sidelines. 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: It's defeating for Baltimore. 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this league has become so razor thin. Then 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: that big cycle. It's a seems like a small play 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: that becomes a big psychological play. So steals and stops 66 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: are big deals, and they'll be a big deal again 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: this week. One thing, though, you cannot steal or stop 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: is around the world. You can't steal it. Sorry, and 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: you can't stop it because we're going to go around 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: the world again and I've got. 71 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: Some Yeah, let's jump into it first. Though, how different 72 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: does the world look today than it did even on 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Sunday mornings, even in Laos, Yeah, even in Laos. We're 74 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: going to talk all about it. But I mean, the 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Chiefs were staring down the barrel of one in three, 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: having to beat the Ravens in order to avoid that. Meanwhile, 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: the Chargers were playing the Giants and facing Jackson Dart 78 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: for his first career start. And then when we went 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: to bed on Sunday night, the Chiefs are two and 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: two and the Chargers lost to the Giants. So after 81 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: all this that we've gone through over the last three 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: weeks of you know, people celebrating the chiefs demise, We're 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: just one game back in the AFC West standings through 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: week four. It's pretty exciting. You and I are fired 85 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: up and the vibe in the building is great. So anyway, 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: let's go around the world. Of course, I'm not prepared here. 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: Let's see where it is. Okay, So I heard from 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: and how many you got? Seven today? 89 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Seven for Harrison Bucker, who'll kick the game winning field 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: goal Monday night? 91 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: Yes he will, Yes, see fifty five. Will it be 92 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: around field goal or will we have time to prepare? 93 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Let's do a run on field go it'd be kind 94 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: of fun. 95 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: I heard from Edward. He said he's one or part 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: of two families in San Bruno, California. It's Niner country 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: out there, so he wanted to shout out his family, 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: the Ramirez family, and some friends of his the Meyers family. 99 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for representing out there. Sam Bruno is home to 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: the Cappuccino High School. 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: No the coffee, so I don't know. 102 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: The mustangs, the lattes, the mustangs. You get to work 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: on your Northern California school. 104 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not very good there. 105 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: We got a listener in Wichita. Eric is in Sioux City, Iowa. 106 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Spend a lot of time in that's a. 107 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Big chief town. Yeah, I'm telling you straight up. You 108 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: go up the Missouri Valley that I mean the Missouri 109 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: River Valley. Sioux City is a huge Chiefs town. We 110 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: love you in Sue City. 111 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: When La United long distance, you know, she was in 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: Sue Falls, So Siue City is along the way and 113 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: Sue City was under construction for approximately five hundred years. 114 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: I think the construction has concluded though, which is very exciting. 115 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 116 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: Everyone Lewis or Clark started that. Yeah, I'm sure they did. 117 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: Shout out to Steve in Maidenhead, Berkshire, UK, so over 118 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: across the pond. He wanted to shout out his daughters, 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: Alana and Sophia. They started watching football because of the 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: Quarterback Show and they fell in love with the Chiefs 121 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes. Now they're big Chiefs fans. So thank 122 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: you guys. Glad you're on board. 123 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: They're not Marcus Mariota. 124 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: Fans, Nopoor Kirk cousins. They are Patrick Mahomes fans. Yeah, okay, yep, 125 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: go Chiefs heard from Reese in Clemson, South Carolina, but 126 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: they are originally from Hanston, Kansas. 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: Home of the Elks. The Elks, the Hans and Elks 128 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: are no more. For years and years and years, they 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: they just stood their ground and would not join with 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: a jet more Longhorns really, but they did. They were 131 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: an a man power. And everybody's name Salmons. I don't 132 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: even know they're all related. I don't know how you 133 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: find a prom date within seventy five miles because they're 134 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: all related and they're all named Salmons. So that's Hanston, 135 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: home of the Elks. But they did consolidated finally. It's 136 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: now the Hodgman County Long. 137 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: So that's where they went. Yeah, and I was going 138 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: to see home with the Longhorns. Okay, but you even 139 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: have the history, you have the previous school at the 140 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: next level. I met Jackson at the stadium on Sunday. 141 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Jackson is an awesome young man who's currently battling cancer. 142 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: But Jackson, it looks like you're doing great. I'm glad 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: that you were there for an awesome win on Sunday 144 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: and cheering on the Chiefs against the Ravens. And then 145 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: we finally met David from Laos. So those that have 146 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: been listening to defending the Kingdom for a long time, 147 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: WAOS has been like a subject for us for months 148 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: and months. David was at the game and we had 149 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: a chance to meet him. It was great to put 150 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: a name to a face. So thanks for coming in 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: saying Hi, David. 152 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: Thanks correcting me. I'm confused because I said, and he 153 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: goes ah been from I go Lao? Right? No? No, 154 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: like if well, we say Laos, but they say Lao, 155 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: but don't say Lao because you're supposed to say Laos. 156 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: So we had multiple people kind of chime in about 157 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: this from like that Southeast Asia area, so it turned 158 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Cambodia or Cambodia and Vietnam and all over the place. 159 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: It turns out that I'm just spitballing off the top 160 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: of my head now. But it turns out that it 161 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: was like three Lao kingdoms in this area when the 162 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: French colonized it, and they just abbreviated it to Laos 163 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: because it was three Lao kingdoms. So even though the 164 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: country of Laos, I guess should be Lao and the 165 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: Lao people just call it Lao in translations, it's okay 166 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: to call it Laos. 167 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: So you get three hours of credit for graduate school 168 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: if you listen to defending the Kingdom or watch it 169 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: because you learn about the Hanston Elks and you learn 170 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: about how Lao became Laos. 171 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: We have time stamps on DTK that if you don't 172 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: want to listen to this, you don't have to. But 173 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: for those of you that are listening, I appreciate you, 174 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. 175 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Actually I love that. I got a couple two so 176 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Colin you know, Colinberg was following me all week around, 177 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: all week long, poor kid. But we're walking in to 178 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the stadium and then within about three hundred meters literally 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: three hundred meters, these two guys come up and they go, 180 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh my gosh. They're like, okay, oh 181 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: my gosh. They're like, we're from Japan. We came to 182 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: the game from Japan. I go already got there, goes 183 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Iamas is something I know? Thank you Panda. Yeah, they 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: put it on X But anyway, it was like, wow, 185 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: this is cool. Somebody from Japan came to the Ravens game. 186 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: It's like four steps, next, next, four steps, Oh my gosh, 187 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hey hey hey, we're from Northwest Ohio. 188 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: They drive here for every home game from Northwest Ohio, 189 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: like Toledo area. 190 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: How far is that drive? 191 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, gazillion miles, but they do it every game, 192 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, every game. Wow. So they probably stop 193 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: at every high ve between here and there. And then 194 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: at the Kingdom Show Monday night, Trent McDuffie was incredible. 195 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: By the way, if you can find it, if you 196 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: can find it, Che's Radio Network find it. You'll want 197 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: to listen to the segment with Trent duffy. It a 198 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: bit of a tear jerker, but he's such an amazing dude. 199 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: But at the show, at the show in Oleitha at 200 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: High Ve, Grace Nelson says, I've showed up for this. 201 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: They came to the game, but from Duluth, Minnesota. Wow, okay, 202 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: home of the UMD Bulldogs D one hockey also bed 203 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: Good Division two. And then the Floridian showed up. I 204 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: want to get this right. Vina High School, Vina High School, 205 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: v e n A, not high school but high school 206 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: from New Smyrna Beach, Florida and all High School. And 207 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: then Mary Booth and Julie Salaboni, Salabony Slabony, Julie Slavoney 208 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: and Mary Booth from Orlane to Florida, came to the game, 209 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: came to the Kingdom show. That's awesome and they were 210 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: rocking and having the time of their life because it 211 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: was a full crowd and it was awesome. So anyway 212 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: around the world's reel, so is so is steals and stops. 213 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Now the Jacksonville Jaguars are three and one, and why 214 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: they're on a near record pace with thirteen takeaway matt 215 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: in four weeks. The Jaguars have three takeaways? Are thirteen 216 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: takeaways in four weeks? Now, get this. Last year they 217 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: were at the bottom of the league. They had only 218 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: nine takeaways the entire year in seventeen games. That tied 219 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: a record. Year before they had only nine. Now they're 220 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: like cashing in big time. They're on a pace to 221 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: have fifty five takeaways. Now. I looked up the all 222 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: time record thinking they might get it. No, the nineteen 223 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: thirty five Chicago Bears. 224 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: I knew it would be a team in the thirties. 225 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the. 226 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty five Chicago Bears had sixty seven takeaways in 227 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: twelve games and they only won six games. They lost 228 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: four how because their offense had to be an ft 229 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean, but the Jaguars. When 230 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: you look at them, Travis etn and we can go 231 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: all the way around the board. Hey, they went Travis Hunter, 232 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: they went up and got him in the draft. Got it, 233 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: got it, got it, and Trevor Lawrence wouldn't stop it. 234 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: It's thirteen takeaways. 235 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when you're looking at the Jags, and this 236 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: is always a nightmare week for me because I've learned, 237 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: thanks to listeners, that I cannot pronounce the name of 238 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: this team, Jaguars. I can't say it. I want to 239 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 2: say Jaguars, Jaguars. You can say what you wanted to 240 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: do too, but then I overweight. We had the Philippines 241 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: and the wrong hemisphere, the Jaguars, Jaguars. I'm going to 242 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: call them the Jags for the purposes of this anyway. 243 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: It's the thirteen takeaways because if you look at what 244 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: they've done with those takeaways, they have nine drives this 245 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: season that started on their opponent's side of the Fifty's 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: a lot easier to score if you're starting in the 247 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: plus fifty area. They scored a league most forty one 248 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: points immediately following those takeaways. And it's not like they 249 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: had one game. Remember when the Chiefs had like seven 250 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: interceptions off Ryan Fitzpatrick that one game years ago. It's 251 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: not like that. They've been consistent. They have at least 252 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: three takeaways and all four of their games this year. 253 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: They had four takeaways last week against the Niners. Even 254 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: the game they lost to Cincinnati when Joe Burrow is 255 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: still healthy, they had three takeaways in that game. So 256 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: for the Chiefs in this game, it's always important not 257 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: to turn the ball over, but that's like the number 258 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: one priority against these guys. You cannot turn the ball 259 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 2: over against him. Because they've shown they're going to run 260 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: the ball really efficiently. They're gonna throw the ball efficiently 261 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: as well, and we'll talk more about Trevor Lawrence. But 262 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: when they get the ball on your side of the fifty, 263 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: they're gonna make you pay for it. And that's why 264 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: they're three and one so far. 265 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: Always look at giveaway takeaway ratio, but always look at 266 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: points off takeaways, because some teams get takeaways but they 267 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: don't do anything with it. And these guys are right 268 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: now three on one because of that. And this is 269 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: a young, feisty, fast defense hunter is actually playing both 270 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. If you look at his snaps. 271 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of snaps on both sides of 272 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: the ball. I think it's one thirty one over one 273 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: oh two. So they're doing both. They they're living up 274 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: what they said they were gonna play. But you look 275 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: at Josh Hines Allen, I mean, he's got seventeen quarterback 276 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: hurries in four games. Only Micah Parsons and Abdel Carter 277 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: have more. Tells you what kind of company he's in. 278 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: The other Josh Allen, they put Hines in there to 279 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: make sure there's no confusion. And three interceptions from a linebacker. 280 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd has three picks that leads the league. 281 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: You can move the ball on these guys, though, and 282 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: if you look at their numbers overall, surprisingly it's the 283 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: fourth worst third down defense in the NFL, allowing conversions 284 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: at a forty six percent clip. And it's the number 285 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: five scoring defense and the league because they have always 286 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: takeaways and teams don't have an opportunity to go squand 287 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: them because their possessions are being taken away. But it's 288 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: the number fifteen total defense, very middle of the pack. 289 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, they have a lot of great young players 290 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: and they've been impressive, and takeaways aren't just given to you. 291 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: You have to take the ball away. But for what 292 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: it's worth, teams have moved the ball on these guys 293 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: when they're not committing turnovers. And again for the Chiefs 294 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: in this one, knock on wood wherever you are, but 295 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: only one turnover all season for the Chiefs, and that 296 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: was on a tip pass. Wasn't like it was an 297 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: egregious turnover by any means. So in this game, don't 298 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: turn the ball over. I'm going to say it fifty 299 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: times on this podcast. 300 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: Stops and Steals. There's a finite amount of possessions in 301 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: any football game at any level in the NFL between 302 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: eight and ten. If you get just enough stops and 303 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: steals this is the new day and age of the NFL. 304 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: You're not going to shut anybody down. Really hard to do, 305 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: but you get enough stops and steals, you win the game. 306 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: It's what happens for the Chiefs in the last two 307 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: past two games at both victories. Now we're gonna get 308 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: to that in a second, but let's also check in 309 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: with someone who knows all about stops and steals. How 310 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: do you keep it rolling on defense after three awesome weeks. 311 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: You bring in the Fort Wayne Flash Drew Trankull first 312 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: of all, stacking these games up. What's happened and where 313 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: do you go from here? 314 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: Well, Fort Wayne Flash, I haven't heard that one before, 315 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: but I appreciate that nickname. I feel like the energy 316 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: and execution have kind of been the two word we've 317 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: been hanging on to. We did a good job of 318 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: that this past week against a really good offense, number 319 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: one offense coming in and they have playmakers all over 320 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: the field. You talk about Lamar, you talk about Derrick Henry, 321 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: Justice Hill, then you go to the wide receivers, their 322 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: tight ends. Isaiah likely comes back. So they've got guys 323 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: that can create problems for you, and we did a 324 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: nice job keeping up keeping a roof over the top 325 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: of it and containing those guys. 326 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: The theme of this podcast stops and steals and talking 327 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: with Spags and some of the other guys, we've got 328 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: to get enough stops and steals. Well, you've got four stops, 329 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: three of those on fourth down, but then to get 330 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: the steals to get four takeaways in two weeks. What's 331 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: been the key there and how big is that? 332 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Well, you talk about the stops we see those a 333 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: lot like steals. Whenever you stop a team and they 334 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: turn it over on downs, we consider that a turnover 335 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: as well. And then obviously we've been taking the ball away. 336 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: Leo with the incredible one handed interception this past game, 337 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: and then Lamar, you know, trying to make a play, 338 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: happen bumps into this guy and we're able to recover 339 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: that and get the ball back to the offense. But yeah, 340 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: you talk about starting to New York. We hadn't had 341 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: any takeaways so far in the season and to have 342 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: fourth or two games as exciting. 343 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: Did you teach Leo that play? I mean you were 344 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: the safety at Notre Dame Leo. 345 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: Leo has a ton of tricks in his bag. Man 346 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: taking on double teams, downhill on the run, game coverage, 347 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: acrobatic catch like that. 348 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: Man, he's such a good ball. We're lucky to have them. 349 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: What has happened since week one, because this has been 350 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: a giant rise since that first game. 351 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: Well, we didn't play our best ball, especially on the 352 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: defensive side, and that's all I can really speak to 353 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: is and we didn't execute. Our energy wasn't there, And 354 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: I think you see a sense of urgency in a 355 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: group of guys who have won championships together and have 356 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: played a long time together. We bring some new guys 357 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: in and free agency, we draft some guys. Get those 358 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: guys up to speed. We had a few guys with 359 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: injuries during training camp that we're out and to get 360 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: those guys back together, get us playing, get us on 361 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: the same page. You know, we're just trying to get 362 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: better week after week, and we were able to do 363 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: that this past week. 364 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: You guys combo at crazy, like there'll be three safety Nickel, 365 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: there will be all these combos moving in and out. 366 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: How big is communication when you've got different schemes and 367 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: different personnel flowing all the time. 368 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's difficult, and in our fans in a good 369 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: way make it hard on us. At Arrowhead. It's very 370 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: very loud. We have communication checks within our calls. Sometimes 371 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: guys in this past game didn't get those and we 372 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: got to clean that up. Super loud in there, and 373 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: it could be complicated. He puts a lot on Nick's plate, 374 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: but we've got experience at each level on the defense, 375 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: and guys are able to communicate, and when we're on 376 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 3: the same page and flying around, we can play some 377 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: good football. 378 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: What happened on the film recovery, All of a sudden 379 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: there's this oh yeah, you got the ball and you 380 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: come flying out. 381 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like I said, Lamar tried to make a play. 382 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: Leo was kind of spying him a little bit. 383 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. 384 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: He cut one way and then cut back behind his center, 385 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: and we had a ton of guys swarming in, Chris 386 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: George Leo, Our safeties were collapsing in, our linebackers were 387 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: coming in, and I think he just hit the back 388 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 3: of his center Lindenbaum there and ball kind of bounced 389 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: right to me. And I wish I would have stayed 390 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: on my feet and tried to make a planet. 391 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: But we're able to get it back to Patrick and 392 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: those guys. It was good. Final question and has to 393 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: do with Jacksonville. Here there are three and one kind 394 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: of a fast and feisty group. But Etn's back. What 395 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence ETN and the Jacksonville offense. 396 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: Well, to speak to ETN first and foremost, I mean 397 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: he's averaging almost six yards of carry. 398 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: He's really efficient. 399 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: I mean he's got really good contact balance, some great 400 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: yards after contact, and so we'll have to did do 401 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: a really good job of tackling him. Trevor's been really efficient, 402 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: spreading the ball around, getting to a lot of different guys, 403 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: got playmakers on the outside. 404 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: So it'll be a good challenge for us this week. 405 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: So as stops and steals, but maybe a scoop and score. 406 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: Maybe a scoop and score. Come on, let's be down 407 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: for that, all right, let's go. So let's hope this 408 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: defense can do their own version of stops and steals 409 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: against Trevor Lawrence, which, by the way, he did not 410 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: have a interception. Not an interception I should say, my 411 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: English teacher get me in their twenty six to twenty 412 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: one win over San Francisco. But prior to that it 413 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: was the first time in seven games he had not 414 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: thrown a pick. In fact, he has seventy two giveaways 415 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, which is the most in the NFL since 416 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and he's got five picks and five 417 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Now we know how capable he is. He's 418 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: a talented guy. He's got a good surrounding cast. But 419 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: the Chiefs also could get some their own version of 420 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: steals and take ways in this game. 421 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 2: Well, I'll give the Jags and Liam Cohen, their new 422 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: head coach, credit because I think he's really simplified things 423 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: for them on offense. He saw a player on their 424 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: backfield in ETN that was very good a couple of 425 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: years ago. Kind of an inexplicably bad season last year 426 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: where people kind of forgot about him almost. I mean, 427 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: this is a young player who was going to be 428 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: your belcow and was a first round pick not too 429 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: long ago. Well, they've gone back to him. He's off 430 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 2: to a great start this season. He's averaging over six 431 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: yards per carry. He runks third in the NFL and 432 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: rushing yards just under four hundred. Right now, these guys 433 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: stay out of negative plays. They've allowed the fewest sacks 434 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: in the NFL and have the fourth fewest negative plays 435 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: overall of any team in the league. And this is 436 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: something with Lawrence that he's always done, but it's even 437 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: more magnified this year. I think he gets rid of 438 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: the ball super quickly, so his average time to throw 439 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: is two point five to seven seconds. That's the second 440 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: fastest of any qualified quarterback in the league right now, 441 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: behind only Aaron Rodgers. So one of the reasons he's 442 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: the least sacked quarterback in the league. Because the ball 443 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: is out lightning quick. Well for the Chiefs in this game, 444 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: you have to make sure you cover up his first read. 445 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: So stop the run first, which they did a great 446 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: job at that last week against Derrick Henry, and then 447 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: cover up his first read. Make him hold onto the 448 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: ball a little bit longer. Because if you look at 449 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: like it's pro football focus grades, I get it, take 450 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: it with a grain of salt, but it is interesting here. 451 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: When he's under two point five seconds, he's really good. 452 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: When it's over two point five seconds, his numbers dip significantly, 453 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: and that's where he has to make some decisions and 454 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 2: look around, and that's when the Chiefs pass rush can 455 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: get going and hopefully maybe force a turnover or two. 456 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the ancient days of twenty twenty two. 457 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: Remember the Jags when they got hot. We had to 458 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: beat him in November. But Travis Etn was a deal. Yeah, 459 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: he was a thing. 460 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: It's good. 461 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: And then we had to play him in the playoffs. 462 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Remember the ninety eight yard drive by Chad Henny. But 463 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Etn started here then that year. Last year just didn't 464 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: make sense. Well, and to your point, he has ten 465 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: ten plus runs and near the only one person has 466 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: more in the first four weeks of this season in 467 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: two ten plus touchdown runs, meaning they're looking for places 468 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: to get home runs. And the ball does come out fast. 469 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: That means slants, that means bubble screens, that means checkdown throws. 470 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: Where you're going to get your big plays. It comes 471 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: off Yak, whether it's receivers or it becomes from Etn, 472 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: who is a dangerous dude, and so tackling him is 473 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: at a premium for this team. But again, the Chiefs 474 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: have had their own version of steals, but they've also 475 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: had their own version of stops. If you think what's 476 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: happened in the last two games, the Chiefs held the 477 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: Giants to one of ten on third down. They held 478 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens to three of ten on third down. That's 479 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: four of twenty if you combine them, Matt, that's sixteen stops. 480 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: I told you on third down. You're getting stops on 481 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: third down. Sixteen stops. Again, every game's only got eight 482 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: to ten possessions, and it's a finite them ount, and 483 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: if you get stops at that level, especially on third down, 484 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: you'll win any game. 485 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: So after week one, we were scratching our heads a 486 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: little bit because we really leave in this defense and 487 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: kind of thought the performance in week one isn't quite 488 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: what their standard is and they all agree with that. Well, 489 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: since then, since Week two, this is the number two 490 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 2: scoring defense in the NFL. I think we've played in 491 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: that span. Playing Philadelphia. I get they've had their offensive issues, 492 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: it's still the Philadelphia Eagles, and of course the Ravens 493 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: as well. I mean to be this stout defensively has 494 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: been really impressive and it's given the offense an opportunity 495 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: to kind of work through some things. And then finally 496 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: the offense paid the defense back last week with that 497 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: awesome performance lighting up a scoreboard, but thirty seven points. 498 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: If we can get this offense to continue playing like 499 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: that and the defense just keeps doing what they're doing, 500 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: especially once Rashi gets back here in a couple weeks, offensively, 501 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: this team's going to be really tough to beat. It 502 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: was just really refreshing to see a complete game on 503 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball against Baltimore. That's the most 504 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: complete game we've seen in a while. And that's also 505 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: the team that we saw in training camp the last 506 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: two years saying this is what this team can be, 507 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: This is why we believe these things that we're talking about. 508 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: We finally saw it against the Ravens. But it really 509 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: does begin with the defense, because again, Leo getting that 510 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: interception and that fourth down stop provides so much juice 511 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: to the offense. The offense goes and finishes it, then 512 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 2: a snowballs from there. Just love what we've seen from 513 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: the defense. So they've picked themselves up after that rough 514 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: game in Week one. Let's keep it going here against Jacksonville. 515 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: And I'll see your two phases and raise you a third. 516 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: The sixteen yard punt return by Nico Romihio led directly 517 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: to a touchdown. Yeah, and then okay, the Ravens do 518 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: get a field goal. Wait a minute, a forty eight 519 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: yard kickoff return led directly to a answering field goal, 520 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: which kept the margin the same. The psychology, that's the 521 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: whole psychology. The game stayed right there because of special teams. 522 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: Now you can also get steals on special teams as well, 523 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: but it's all about stops and steals. But what about 524 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: the AFC West and what has happened here in just 525 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: a two weeks time where the division looks very different. 526 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: Four games into this seventeen game schedule. Well, our spy 527 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: on the rest of the AFC West is Ari Wolf. 528 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: We had a chance to check in with Ari again. 529 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: Gentlemen, Welcome to week five. We're out West. There's a 530 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: lot to talk about in the AFC West. Two weeks 531 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: ago when we started this thing, gentlemen, the world looked 532 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: a lot different. It appears that the Earth has returned 533 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: to its proper axis and people are feeling on pretty 534 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 4: good in the Kingdom. I know, I'm feeling very bullish 535 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: on the season at the moment, and we're going to 536 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: dive right into the AFC West. The Chargers come back 537 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: to Earth a little bit now, Matt, you had forecasted 538 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: had the Chiefs seen Jackson Dart like, maybe it would 539 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: have been a little bit tougher. Well, the Chargers make 540 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: the trip to the Metal Lands and it doesn't go 541 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: quite as well for them. What were your guys take 542 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 4: away from Justin Herbert and the two interceptions in their performance. 543 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this segment when I was watching 544 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: that Chargers and Giants game, especially that first drive when 545 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: Dart let them right down the field, and I'm like, hey, 546 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: I said, maybe Jackson Dart can go crazy. You never 547 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: know when you're facing a quarterback for the very first 548 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: time what they're going to do. You have no tape 549 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: on them, you don't know their tendencies, you have no clue. 550 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: And the Giants had nothing to lose in that game. 551 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: They're just going out there and playing, so I mean, 552 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: incredible performance by them. I thought it was resilient as well, 553 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: especially once Neighbors got hurt, to keep playing and to 554 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: fight and to win that game. I think the one 555 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: thing we learned though, that we already knew is the 556 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: Giants defensive line is really good, and the Chargers figured 557 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: that one out. I think the Chiefs will get no 558 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: credit for holding that defensive line at Bay and winning 559 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: that game. But you know anyway that the Chargers, they 560 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: struggled against that pass rush, and that's why Herbert struggled 561 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: as well. 562 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: One of the most into I think the Giants defensive 563 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: front is probably one of the most underrated groups in 564 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: the entire NFL. I mean that you look at that 565 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: and Brian Burns, I've loved him, you know, since his 566 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: days with the Panthers. Jingo right down the line, Lawrence Thibodeau, Harder, 567 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: Duill Carter, but their secondary played at a level enough 568 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: that I didn't think they could play at because that 569 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: group is probably thirty first or thirty acting in the 570 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: league and what they've been able to do. But then 571 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: I think already the loss of Joe Alt, the fact 572 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: that now you're going to move Pipkins to the other side, 573 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: and then I mean you're moving your whole offensive line 574 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: around basically got centers going out to right tackle, and 575 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: so anytime you have I mean, they've lost both tackles now, 576 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know how the high ankle sprain for 577 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: all how long will be out, But that's difficult for 578 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: any team to overcome. So yeah, to me, it was 579 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: just a matter of the Giants getting a little bit. Hey, 580 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: the people that touch the ball were dart and scared 581 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: about they do that. They're gonna win some games, all right. 582 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: Now, Let's shift to the Raiders and the Bears. I 583 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: thought Kayla Williams looked better for the Bears. Raiders still 584 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: had a chance to win. They get a kick block, 585 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 4: Gino Smith again, turnover issues, but one thing I think 586 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: is clear. The Raiders are going to beat a couple 587 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 4: of good teams this season. Hopefully it doesn't happen in 588 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: either game against the Chiefs. But Gino Smith and the 589 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: Raiders I think are just good enough. They're going to 590 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: pull off a couple of upsets, but I don't see 591 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: them anywhere near making the playoffs. 592 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: But I did. 593 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: My takeaway from that game was that the Raiders will 594 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 4: be competitive for most of the season. 595 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 5: What'd you guys think? 596 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was the Ashton Genty breakout game. 597 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: I think he had like one hundred and thirty eight 598 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: yards on the ground. That's kind of the performance people 599 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: expected when he was drafted as high as he was. 600 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: That's kind of the Boise State Ashton Genty, and I 601 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: think for that reason, and brock Bauers being there too, 602 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: that's why they are going to beat some pretty good 603 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: teams at some point. But then the other side of 604 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: the coin is what you're saying. They have four turnovers 605 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: in that game, Gino has three picks. Just gets to 606 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: a point where it's very difficult to win if you're 607 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: turning the ball over at that rate. But Genty was 608 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: good the first three weeks of the year. He didn't 609 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: crack four yards per carry over six yards per carry 610 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: in that game. We'll see these guys in a couple 611 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: of weeks and we'll have to be ready for gent. 612 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: Well and Gino now leads the league with seven picks. 613 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: And the theme of this podcast has been steals and stops. 614 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: In this league, the offenses are so good. If you 615 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: get just enough stops and there you get it steals 616 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: one or two, you're gonna win every time. And if 617 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: you're giving it away for those steals, it's a real problem. 618 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. Anytime they show up in Max Crosby, 619 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: Rock Bowers and Jansy's getting off the bus, then they're 620 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: capable of beating anybody in the league. 621 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 4: All right, Now, let's focus on the Monday night game. 622 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: We saw the Bengals without Joe Burrow go to Denver. 623 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: We saw bow Knicks check it down quite a bit. 624 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: It was the checkdown game, but the defense looks solid. 625 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: At was a game they had to have, especially with 626 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: them going to Philadelphia next. 627 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 5: Bow Knicks, to me is a curious thing. 628 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: Sometimes I watch him and I think, man, the ceiling's 629 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: just really low. 630 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 5: There's no upside. 631 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: He's always faster than I think. And while he didn't 632 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: throw the ball down When he spins it, it's a 633 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: tight spiral. It looks good coming out of his hand. 634 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: What do you guys take away from the Monday night game. 635 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Nicks makes some really nice throws and 636 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: then there's also throws like the interception and the end 637 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: zone that he had. But I mean, he's a good 638 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: player and obviously a young player who's continually improving. For me, though, 639 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: it's the Broncos d and that's not surprise. We knew 640 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: this defense was very good. I mean, the best friend 641 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: of a young quarterback is a great defense on the 642 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: other side, and that's what the Broncos have. The Bengals 643 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: had no shot in that game once they got behind 644 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: because they couldn't run the ball, and then they're trying 645 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: to throw just go routes down the sideline and the 646 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: Broncos pass rush was teeing off on the Bengals offensive line. 647 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: So you got to make sure you don't become one 648 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: dimensional against them, because that's what the Broncos won. Their 649 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: defense is so good when they're facing a one dimensional offense. 650 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: If the Bengals ran the ball more like they did 651 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: early on in the game, they might have had a shot. 652 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: But once they became one dimensional, they had no chance. 653 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I think the Broncos did set a record though for checkdowns, 654 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: tunnel screens, wide screens, and then let's throw boots to 655 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: the tight end of the full back. I think there 656 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: was seven hundred of them in that game. Well, that's 657 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: what they are right now. And the fact that outside 658 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: of the end zone interception, they're trying to keep things, 659 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, within Bow's world here, which is working and 660 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: so and I like his The way he throws a 661 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: football is any He's a strong player. He's strong, he 662 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: can strong. He saw him when he runs the ball. 663 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: He's very strong and is a threat there. But their 664 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: defense is superb now on the I know we're talking 665 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: at AFC West here, but if you look at the 666 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: NFC North, because that's part of my answer here, the 667 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Bengals can't fix this defense. They can't fix it on 668 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: the fly. And I don't think the Ravens can fix 669 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: their defense. They got to try to somehow repair it 670 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: on the fly. This is you having two flat tires 671 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: on the freeway and you're going, hey, can we all 672 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: just stop here while I fix it. No, the freeway's 673 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: going and flipping you off right so that's what I 674 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: don't know what the AFC North is going to be, 675 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: but those two defenses are really struggling in that division, 676 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals and the Ravens. 677 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: That's that's a little bit of a teaser that gets 678 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: to my parting thought has a lot to do with 679 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: the AFC North. All right, Let's look at what I 680 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: thought was the most compelling game from last week. 681 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 5: It was the Sunday Night game. 682 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 4: It was the Packers the Cowboys to iconic franchises. The 683 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: Sunday Night game. It had a buzz to it. It 684 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: was a wild finish. There were seven can scative lead changes. 685 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: The two quarterbacks, Dak Prescott and Jordan Love combine for 686 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: six hundred and fifty six yards passing six touchdowns, zero interceptions, 687 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: and at the end of the game, well, I thought 688 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: Green Bay caught a break. 689 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: That clock operator I felt like he was working at 690 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 5: lambeau Field. 691 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: Because I wasn't sure they should have gotten the funnel 692 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: playoff with Jordan Love, guys, he both excites me. Sometimes 693 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 4: I see him, I think, this guy, this guy's got 694 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 4: it right. He's got the juice, he's got the swagger. 695 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: But sometimes he makes some kind of boneheaded, and I'm like, 696 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: it's guy like an airhead out there. Does he not 697 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: get time and situation? It ends in a forty all 698 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: time made for great television. I'm just curious. I know 699 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: you guys got a chance, I'm guessing to watch the game, 700 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: would you. 701 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: Think of it? 702 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: Well, it was the first time in a while I 703 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: could sit down and watch Sunday night football and just 704 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: be like happy and enjoy it because I know, of 705 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: course the first two Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could just 706 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: sit down and watch football. 707 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: That was great. 708 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Packers did their best to lose that game. Obviously, 709 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: to play that you're referencing the throw out the back 710 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: of the end zone at the very end when there 711 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: was one second left. Like if I was a Packers fan, 712 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: I'd be losing my mind watching that. But also the 713 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: strip sack at the end of the first half. I mean, 714 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: you just gave the Cowboys some points there and let 715 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: them hang around, and obviously we saw what they were 716 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: able to do. It's interesting for Green Bay because they 717 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: were just a wagon to start the year through the 718 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: first two weeks and now two performances where you kind 719 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: of question it a little bit. I mean, you lose 720 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: to the Browns and then in a lot of ways 721 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: should have lost to the Cowboys. On the other side, 722 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: I respect the Cowboys for fighting like they did. They're 723 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: an interesting team to say the least right now. So 724 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: through Week four they lead the NFL in offensive yards 725 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: per game and defensive yards per game allowed. So I 726 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: mean it's one of those things. It's kind of like 727 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: arena football with them when you're watching the Cowboys. We'll 728 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: see them later this season as well, but I respect 729 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: how they fought despite going down early against the Packers. 730 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: The bias here is I know Brian Schottenheimer is a 731 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: really good coach and he was in high school quarterback 732 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: here right but I think he's doing what he can 733 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: ari That might be the smallest defense I have seen 734 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: in the National Football League in a while, and meaning 735 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. That's a small group looking at this 736 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: day and age of the league, and they're giving up 737 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: forty points like it's an ATM machine. But they're fighting 738 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: their way to try to somehow stay competitive, and to 739 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: tie that game forty to forty for the Cowboys was 740 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: like a win now for the Packers. It's perplexing because 741 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: you're thinking the way it kind of started. Love is 742 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: going to throw for four hundred yards and they're going 743 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: to walk out of there with an impressive victory, and 744 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: yet they get on the plane and fly home and 745 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's a loss. So ties are not always neutral. 746 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: It's where it does what's it do psychologically for teams? 747 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: And I think for the Cowboys, at least for Brian 748 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: Shottenhammer in his first year, it felt like, Hey, we 749 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: got out of here not losing, and the Packers are going, 750 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: what did we just do here? Because we just gave 751 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: one away. 752 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you this, the Cowboys have made 753 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: it for compelling television because it's only the third time 754 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: we've done this and they've had two of the three 755 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: as game of the week. All right, let's shift forward 756 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: to this coming week. I think a very interesting game 757 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: is Washington in Los Angeles to take on the Chargers. 758 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: The Commanders now two and two, the Jayden Daniels injury, 759 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 4: it still feels like there's a little bit of mystery. 760 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 5: When is he gonna come back without him? I think, 761 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 5: you know, the Chargers probably win at home, but not knowing. 762 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 4: The situation with Daniels, this Washington team, I think a 763 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 4: lot of people. There was a lot of buzz, right, 764 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 4: they played great in the playoffs. Jayden Daniels was the answer. 765 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 4: But this team out think we found without Jayden Daniels 766 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 4: is a much different football team. 767 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: Do you think the Chargers win this week at home? 768 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: And Terry McLaurin didn't play last week as well, right, so, 769 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: and we'll see if he plays in this game. I mean, 770 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: it's so difficult. We talk all year about how the 771 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: Chiefs not having Rashi, not having Xavier, it changes things 772 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: once you get those players back, maybe even more so 773 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: for the Commanders. You don't have your quarterback who was 774 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: an MVP candidate last year and your best receiver in McLaurin. 775 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: If they have both those guys back, I think the 776 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: Commanders have a real shot. But they need those play 777 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 2: back to hang with the Chargers. 778 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: I think I don't know what the Charger O line 779 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: is going to look like all I really don't. So 780 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: they patched it together and lost that game, But now 781 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: what do they do against the Commanders. The other thing 782 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: about the Commanders is they've got playmakers. They get McLaurin back, 783 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: You've got enough guys on that team that can make 784 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: plays all over and then you thrown Debo in there, 785 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now you've got something where 786 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: you can you just make it. You can make life 787 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: hard on anybody you play. So that Commander team, if 788 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: they get Daniels up and run it again. Even if 789 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: they don't, we've seen them still be productive and at 790 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: least get big plays even without Daniels, and that makes 791 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: that a scary team. 792 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the Raiders. Here's a great example. 793 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: We said they're going to beat some pretty good teams. 794 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: You're not really sure when it's gonna happen. Raiders are 795 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 4: going to the Colts. It looks like a game based 796 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 4: on what we've seen. You you think, Okay, the Colts. 797 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is having this you know, resurrection, he's a 798 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: born again quarterback. 799 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 5: This is the exact kind of game. 800 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 4: I actually think the Raiders will be super competitive in 801 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 4: you know, I think for the Colts, being back at 802 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: home will be good. They don't have a great home 803 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: field advantage. I lived in Indianapolis for three years. Their 804 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: fans are super nice, but they're not the rabbit fans 805 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: you see in other markets. What are you guys expecting 806 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 4: in Indianapolis? 807 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: This week. 808 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: Yet the Colts are still this enigma to me where 809 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure it out. I haven't been able 810 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: to watch them much just because of the way our 811 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: schedule has worked out. I haven't watched a lot of 812 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: Colts games. I'd kind of like to watch this game 813 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: just out of curiosity, and I guess we will be 814 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: able to because we play on Monday night. I respect 815 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: how the Colts have figured this out and done this 816 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: kind of against the odds and against the expectations. I'm 817 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: curious if the Colts can keep this thing going. Maybe 818 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: they can, if they can turn the Raiders over like 819 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: the Raiders have been doing over the last few weeks, 820 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be the Colts day. But again, 821 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 2: like when the Raiders have Ashon, Jindy and Brock Bauers 822 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: on their team and it's hard to diskinnd of team 823 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: that has playmakers like that. 824 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: Matt told me that he thought the Colts were going seventeen, 825 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: and oh I did, and I thought, wow did Okay, well, whoa, whoa, 826 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: whoa wait, okay, uh, that's gone. But the Colts, to me, 827 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: I would say, opportunistic. Yeah, is the They're one of 828 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: the more opportunistic teams. And this goes back to what 829 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: we said before and kind of the genre of this 830 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: entire podcast was who gets steals, but what do you 831 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: do with them? And the Colts have a certain toughness 832 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: about them. I give Chris Ballard their GM a lot 833 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: of credit. He was with us, and I have a 834 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: tremendous respect for Chris. But there's a there's a grit 835 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: to the Colts. Now this is all about who can 836 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: you know those possessions, those one or two possessions. I 837 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: think this is an extremely close game. I think the 838 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: uh is Gino going to turn it over like four times? 839 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: Then might as well not even go but right, because 840 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: the Colts will make you pay. But I just think 841 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: this is one of the better games of the weekend 842 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: that people kind of gloss over just because oh it's 843 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: the Colts and Raiders. Let's don't pay attention to it. 844 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: But I think it's going to be an awesome game. 845 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 4: And I also like the Jonathan Taylor Ashton, Jenny, you 846 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 4: got a couple of great tailbacks. 847 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 5: You like a running game. I like those guys. They 848 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 5: both run with a certain flare. 849 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 4: All right, So my game of the week for the 850 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: second second of week features the Chiefs, but I want 851 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 4: everyone to know it's just because it actually is the 852 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 4: game of the week. 853 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 5: It won't always be as this part of the podcast. 854 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 4: But you've got a three and one Jaguars team with 855 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence playing so much better than he did last year, 856 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 4: looks like a completely different quarterback. We're going to get 857 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 4: to see Travis Hunter experiment, seeing him play offensive defense. 858 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 4: You know, at the beginning of the season, I just 859 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: them were one of the teams I was like, I 860 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 4: just don't know what to think of the Jaguars. Well, 861 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 4: three and one, they've been pretty impressive and this is 862 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 4: going to be a pretty good test for the Chiefs 863 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 4: heading to Jacksonville on Monday night. What are your guys, 864 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 4: What are your guys predictions from Monday night down in Florida. 865 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, one thing we've been talking about on the 866 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: other side of the podcast is how the Jags have 867 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: been living off takeaways. Thirteen takeaways already this year. It's 868 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: very difficult to win if you're turning the ball over 869 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: a whole bunch, and the JAG's opponents have learned that 870 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: the Jags have turned their opponent over at least three 871 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: times in all four games this year. Can't let that happen, 872 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: and fortunately the Chiefs have been great about protecting the ball. 873 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: Knock on Wood. Can't turn the ball over here in 874 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: this game. But I think the challenge for the Chiefs 875 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: going against a good Jag squad is you just had 876 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: this awesome palate cleanser against Baltimore where he saw a 877 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: complete football game, really in all three phases. Now keep 878 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: that going. Even though the Jags didn't have the preseason 879 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: expectations of Baltimore. I don't think people circled this game 880 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: like they circled Chiefs in Baltimore when the season first began. 881 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: You have to keep attacking it with that same intensity. 882 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of this team. As I know 883 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: Coachrie will have our guys ready. 884 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm just mesmerized by your mat behind Jai. I just can't, 885 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: you know. I keep looking at Green Australia thinking who's 886 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: going to play there next year and play the Rams. 887 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: This Jaguars team, the defense and the fact that they've 888 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: got I thought they're on a record pace with thirteen 889 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: takeaways in four weeks. Then I looked up the thirty 890 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: five Chicago Bears had sixty seven takeaways in a twelve 891 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: game season and still lost four games. So I don't 892 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: know how to app that Bears offense was in nineteen 893 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: thirty five, but sixty seven takeaways in twelve weeks is 894 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: pretty good. But that's what the Jaguars are doing. This 895 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: is a young, fast, frenzied defense. You look at what 896 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd's got three picks on this team. You talked 897 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: about Travis Hunter, but Josh heinz Allen, he's got seventeen 898 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. You've got to handle your business against the 899 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: Jags defense or you can be in trouble. Now the 900 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: other side, Lawrence has played better, but still four picks 901 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: in four weeks. Last week against the Niners was the 902 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: first time in seven games he hadn't thrown a pick, 903 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: and so offensively right now, they're living a little bit 904 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: off Travis etn who's having an awesome start to this season. 905 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: We're back to twenty two with him, and he's an 906 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: electric player catching or running it. So dangerous team, but young, fast, frisky. 907 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: You know they've got a GM that's twenty years old. 908 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, if the Chiefs handled it and handled it business, 909 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: and getting Xavier Worthy back is meant the world. But 910 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: you can't give the ball away. And so if you 911 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: don't give the ball away, you got a chance of 912 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: handling this game. 913 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 4: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing Mahomes maybe another four touchdown, 914 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: no turnover day. He looked like vintage Patrick Mahomes against Baltimore. 915 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: All right, now to our parting thoughts, and it brings 916 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 4: me back to the AFC North and it it actually 917 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 4: is gonna pain me a. 918 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 5: Little bit to say this. 919 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: So being an Aaron Rodgers hater has sort of been 920 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 4: my brand for a long time. I just there's so 921 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 4: many things about him that frustrate me, that disappoint me. 922 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 5: So I thought him going. 923 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: To Pittsburgh, like a blue collar city, that it was 924 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 4: just it was just going to fail miserably. I thought 925 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 4: it was the worst combination. I thought when Terry Bradshaws 926 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 4: said he's not welcome here, that's how it's going to go. 927 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: But you look at the standings, there were three in one. 928 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 4: The division is a mess. Baltimore is a mess, Cincinnati 929 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: is a mess. 930 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 5: We knew Cleveland was gonna be a mess. So they're 931 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 5: on top of the AFC North. 932 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 4: He's Aaron Rodgers got eight touch down passes, just three picks, 933 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 4: and a quarterback rating over one hundred. 934 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 5: So my parting thought is I was a full I 935 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 5: was completely wrong. 936 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 4: I thought the Steelers and Aaron Rodgers were going to 937 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 4: be a disaster, and so far through four weeks, they 938 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 4: have been my surprise team. 939 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 5: So that is my parting thought onto. 940 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: You, Matt, I think for me this week, I'd just 941 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: say how much fun Sunday was. And it's easy when 942 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: you get in the grind of the season, especially when 943 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: things don't start off well like they didn't for the Chiefs, 944 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: easy to you know, it gets kind of laborious, like 945 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: you're just trying to get every win that you can. 946 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: Sunday was so much fun where the Chiefs came out 947 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 2: there and just dominated on both sides of the ball. 948 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: Dominated a team that we respect and we know is 949 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: very good despite their injuries and their issues are going through, 950 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: and a team that over the years has been there 951 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 2: with us in January. To go out there and to 952 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: have that kind of game, for Patrick Mahomes to have 953 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: the game that he did, the defense to play well 954 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: the way that they did. We talked about it on 955 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: the podcast, but it's in a lot of ways a 956 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: team that we saw in training camp, and I'm just 957 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 2: very excited to see that kind of game against that 958 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: kind of opponent, especially after the O and two start, 959 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: and can't wait to see where we go from here. 960 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: I just had fun on something. 961 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 4: That's going to tag on what he's saying there, because 962 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,959 Speaker 4: with all the one score games last year, I feel 963 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 4: like late in fourth quarters of every game, your anxiety 964 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 4: and stress level because of how much you care has 965 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 4: been high. That must have been the most relaxing fourth 966 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 4: quarter you've had in at least a couple of seasons. 967 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: That go pro camera's up there, but you couldn't see 968 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: the foot massage I was getting in the fourth quarter. 969 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is this? So yeah, it was. 970 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: It was I was just chill man. It was like, 971 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: this is over, Let's just roll on and go home. 972 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm mesmerized by Kazakhstan over your left ear 973 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: because to me, that might be where Aaron Rodgers' house was. 974 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: I remember when he was nobody could find him. He's 975 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: in a house in the dark. I think it might 976 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: have been right over your left ear in Kazakhstan that 977 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: I would say all right, let's just stay tuned on 978 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: the North. Yes, this could be a division and I 979 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: don't say this for a disparaging remark. This could be 980 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: one of your ten and seven, nine and eight kind 981 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: of division winners. Yep, that's kind of what it feels 982 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: to me. I know, the Ravens feel like they could 983 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: still kind of kind of slog their way through this. 984 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,720 Speaker 1: I said, I don't think they can fix that defense, 985 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: but if that offense will still be right there, they'll 986 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: get it figured out and go. Uh So, I just 987 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: stay tuned on all of this, and it's a week 988 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: to week deal. But I don't know if there's going 989 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: to be a wild card out of that division. Let's 990 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: put it there. 991 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 5: I think I agree with you, But gentlemen, I appreciate 992 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 5: you coming out West. For me, this was a ton 993 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 5: of fun. Go Chiefs. I never thought two and two 994 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 5: would feel so good. 995 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Ari's got it, man, he's he's he's on the case. 996 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: So Ari is two and oh now with these segments, right, yeah, 997 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: let's make it three and. 998 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah without ur slow down. It's Monday night football. 999 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: That's the Jags, and it's all about stops and steals 1000 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: in any NFL game. But the offense you mentioned it 1001 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast. We saw some clicking and moving 1002 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: and shaking. But I also mentioned a week ago one 1003 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: thing that excited me about the Giants game was the 1004 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: resurgence with Forshard Smith. Just enough of the jet sweep, 1005 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: flip pass end around. Now you put Worthy in those 1006 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: roles or both of those guys in the roles. Look 1007 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: what that did in the Ravens game. So now some 1008 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: way to try to attack this Jaguar team. When you 1009 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: look at it. We mentioned about this Steve and Jordan 1010 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: Lewis is good. He's been around the league a lot. 1011 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: He's got two picks on this team. But can you 1012 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: slow down this fast, feisty, takeaway Jaguar defense. One way 1013 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: to do it is counter speed with speed, especially if 1014 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: you get vertical and horizontal both. 1015 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Xavier makes such a big difference. I mean 1016 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: you could see it on the first snap of the game. 1017 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: You can tell when people cover the Chiefs like locally 1018 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: and when they just talk about them like on national 1019 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 2: TV shows, and they'll be like, gonave Worthy really make 1020 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: that big of a difference, Yeah, he can. He was 1021 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: the Chiefs leading rusher and receiver. On Sunday, he had 1022 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty one yards from scrimmage on seven touches. 1023 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 2: That's over seventeen yards per touch. I mean, it was incredible. 1024 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 2: He was opening everything up. And when you have to 1025 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: worry about Xavier Worthy running the go route down the 1026 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: sideline like he did successfully. Love seeing Mahomes hit him 1027 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: on that one, but also taken like the end a 1028 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: round for thirty yards or whatever it was. I mean, 1029 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: that creates so many problems for the defense and opens 1030 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 2: everyone else up. That's why Hollywood Brown had a touchdown 1031 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: in this game. Juju had a touchdown in the game, 1032 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: Pacheco had a touchdown, Thornton had a touchdown. When Xavier 1033 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: is there and can put fear into the defense and 1034 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 2: they have to respect all the different things that he 1035 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 2: can do, it opens things up for everybody else. So 1036 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: to see it come to fruition right away when he 1037 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: got back was awesome. Now let's just keep it going 1038 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: against a young secondary in Jacksonville. 1039 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: The other thing was four red zone touchdowns, four yeah, 1040 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: to four different receivers, and all four play designs were different. Now, 1041 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: when I reviewed the video, you know who popped off 1042 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: the screen Juju Smith Schuster. Oh yeah, not only get 1043 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: his own touchdown, he got his own. He door hinged 1044 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: the other three. 1045 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: He would have had one too if that one ball 1046 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 2: wasn't tipped on our opening drive. 1047 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when Pat was going. But the point 1048 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: is Juju Smith Schuster, either how he runs his route 1049 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: or what depthy runs his route, he recognizes the defense 1050 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: guys pop open because of Juju Smith Schuster. He is 1051 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: such a red zone door hinge. He's taken it to 1052 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: another level and it's really pretty cool. But to get 1053 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: four red zone touchdowns, four different ways, with four different 1054 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: guys bodes well for the future. 1055 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: And my favorite one, I think was the one to Hollywood, 1056 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 2: the one that really put a bow on the whole thing, 1057 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 2: because go back and watch that play. I'm pretty sure 1058 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: Hollywood was his third read because that was it was 1059 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: third and one or fourth and one, I can't remember. 1060 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 2: It was short yardage, fourth and one, fourth and one, Okay, 1061 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 2: so you got to have it right. Mahomes is rolling 1062 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 2: to his right and Xavier was running that play. We 1063 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: always run where he's like right with the sticks, but 1064 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: he was covered. He was covered, okay, to the second level. 1065 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 2: The second receiver was covered as well, and in my 1066 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 2: brain i'm watching it, I'm like, oh, shoot, like Mahomes 1067 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: has to probably run for this or just give Xavier 1068 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: a chance. Now there's Hollywood in the back of the 1069 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 2: end zone for the third read. It's a touchdown. Don't 1070 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: even worry about about picking up the first down. That 1071 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: right there is like the twenty twenty two Chiefs offense 1072 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: where you did everything right, you covered the way the 1073 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 2: play that the way it was designed doesn't matter. We're 1074 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 2: actually going to score a touchdown on it. And that's 1075 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: the kind of thing I'm looking forward to seeing more 1076 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 2: of as we progress here and get Rashi back and 1077 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 2: Exavier more back into the fold. 1078 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: Go back and watch that play and watch Juju. Watch 1079 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: what he does to influence the defensive coverage to allow 1080 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: the over route to happen. And watch what he does 1081 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: without touching the. 1082 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: Ball fires me up. Oh yeah, and he loves being 1083 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: that guy too. 1084 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 1: Like I said to the text, I'm watching, Oh my gosh, 1085 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: Juju door hinge, door hinge, watch these plays and so yeah, 1086 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: just it's fun to see that. But these Jaguar linebackers 1087 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 1: are good. Already mentioned Devin Lloyd, our guy foy Lucon, 1088 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: the Saint Louis native hooked out took out Nick Bolton 1089 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: for the Tackle Championship a couple of years ago. They're good, 1090 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: they're consistent, they're good, but if you make them side 1091 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 1: to side, make them go to an eye exam every 1092 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: time you snap the football. Here's the eye chart. Where 1093 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: we going. It's the shell game. You've got it. That's 1094 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: the way you slow down this really good linebacking corps. Yeah, 1095 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: you spread them out horizontically and vertically. And for the 1096 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs in this game, just keep doing that over and over. 1097 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: And we saw some pop from the run game as well. 1098 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah had a few big runs in there. Kareem was 1099 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: kind of like the workman, like he's just going to 1100 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: go in there for fifteen carries and get you the 1101 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: tough yards. But then Burchard really showed us some stuff. 1102 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: It was a season high and snaps for him last week. 1103 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: I think he had like fifteen or sixteen snaps and 1104 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: he did a lot with them. So let's see if 1105 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: he can get more of those moving forward and see 1106 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: what he can do with them. But the margin of 1107 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: everyone in these NFL games is ridiculous. It's just crazy. 1108 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: How and coach talks about it all the time, the 1109 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 1: thin margin of winning and losing in this league, talked 1110 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: about the psychology can actually make that grow. But know this, 1111 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: even this Monday night game, and check out how many 1112 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: games from here on end are going to be decided 1113 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 1: by who gets the most stops and steals