Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, twenty four,
Speaker 1: Episode three of Dear Daily's I Guys Day production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, February seventh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: February seventh. It's National Girls and Women in Sports Day,
Speaker 2: National Periodic Table Day, Shout out to Valence Electron, National
Speaker 2: Fedicini Alfredo Day, okay, and National Send.
Speaker 1: A Card to a Friend Day. You know, come friend, dae,
Speaker 1: what Hallmarket's not enough for you? You're a week out
Speaker 1: that you're just having to get ready to give us
Speaker 1: your money. We want an appetizer of your money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: send a card to a friend.
Speaker 2: I think it might be the whole the whole Federation
Speaker 2: of card Maker. Excuse me together as I'm burping because
Speaker 2: I can't believe how how just how transformative this day
Speaker 2: is telling about it. It's an ancient tradition of scraps
Speaker 2: of paper to communicate.
Speaker 1: His leg at the end of the gist when he
Speaker 1: feels so fucked up about what's what he's got or
Speaker 1: yeah the jinks, Yeah, when he feels so fucked up
Speaker 1: about what he's holding down that he starts burping constantly.
Speaker 1: You're just so fucked up by national cards. Send a
Speaker 1: friend of card dead all I can't. Oh man, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Just says while our digital era may turn away from
Speaker 2: the flowery image language of greeting cards are surprising, eighty
Speaker 2: percent of adult still purchase them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean like we.
Speaker 2: Got to say thank you sometimes in a more formal
Speaker 2: way that a text can't quite achieve.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know that I just wish a four
Speaker 1: year old a happy birthday every once in a while,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, of.
Speaker 2: Course, because you don't want to do that as much
Speaker 2: as I used to be, Like, man, just pull a
Speaker 2: piece of print or paper. D Yeah, my art skills
Speaker 2: are not good enough where it looks I might as
Speaker 2: well have just said fuck you on the present, you
Speaker 2: know the way.
Speaker 1: That is, that is an option. Good artists always have.
Speaker 2: Strip fuck you, fuck you, but in like really cool,
Speaker 2: lesson the beautiful, the beautiful.
Speaker 1: Uh well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka squaring up
Speaker 1: on Sea me Street Heat, taking bets on these mohuppets,
Speaker 1: got dragged on Twitter. Now he's back on his feet,
Speaker 1: Just Elmo and his will to survive it's the bird
Speaker 1: or the monster. It's an internet fight rising up to
Speaker 1: a giant feathered rival. Will he go for the ankles
Speaker 1: or will he use a knife? And we'll argued wing
Speaker 1: over a bird or a monster. That is courtesy of
Speaker 1: Warren the Wear Bear on the discord Little I Have
Speaker 1: the Tiger. You know, this is this is our Rocky
Speaker 1: three the Elmo the Big Bird. By the way, that
Speaker 1: song was a late replacement for You're the Best around,
Speaker 1: the Karate Kids song, the song at the end of
Speaker 1: Karate Kid. That's just like an on the nose, like
Speaker 1: you're the best win this fight? That one, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: song was. That song was in Rocky three, and then
Speaker 1: they were like, man, this is a little on the nose.
Speaker 1: And also I the Tiger came out and so they
Speaker 1: just swapped that shit out. But now you are the
Speaker 1: best round doesn't really make sense for Karate Kid because
Speaker 1: it's like history repeats itself and it's like, what, wait,
Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't karate Kid three. Fuck are you
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, this is his first win at the All Valley
Speaker 1: Karate Tournament.
Speaker 2: I mean, good for them because they have like a
Speaker 2: lot of like you know, there's like that one the
Speaker 2: score to Rocky that's in the victory beat.
Speaker 1: M hm, you know on No Way Out.
Speaker 2: You know, there's like a lot of good there's some
Speaker 2: good things came out of there. But to think that
Speaker 2: they could have messed that up with you're the best.
Speaker 1: But you know, it takes a lot to fuck up
Speaker 1: a Rocky movie. Just look at the soundtrack from Rocky
Speaker 1: for there are some songs in that motherfucker keepers Sylvester Stallone,
Speaker 1: did you write and perform this song? Because this is
Speaker 1: just like a power ballad. N I got rights quote
Speaker 1: my friend Miles Gray and speaking of which I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Speaker 1: Miles Gray. Okay, lumping up that fucking big, big yellow
Speaker 1: bird gonna get wrecked. Elmo's a monster.
Speaker 2: Leave you sleep in the street, just a beast with
Speaker 2: the deep hidden rage.
Speaker 1: It's the monster named Elmo. He's gonna be big bird dead.
Speaker 2: Bert and Ernie benas it this one out. Elmo, the
Speaker 2: last no survivors talking is praying the night.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck do you think he is? Red? Elmo
Speaker 1: is a monster.
Speaker 2: Shout out to first Blood five two two, Look a
Speaker 2: lot of people with the fucking the Tiger Elmo first
Speaker 2: Big Bird theme.
Speaker 1: We love this energy read four bro. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's a monster. Damn that both of those are are
Speaker 1: really good. Great job hot damn and great job to
Speaker 1: you on the performance.
Speaker 2: And to you too, and to you too obviously with
Speaker 2: your spirit you received my mother's uh applot it's in person. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got to like, you're singing, it's just you.
Speaker 1: Really, You've you've entered a new era with you. Not
Speaker 1: expecting a compliment about my vocals, but you know.
Speaker 2: You know, shout out to my mom. Big fan of
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: I know, unbelievable that both of our moms still sticking
Speaker 1: with it even though they don't know what we're talking
Speaker 1: about most of the time.
Speaker 2: She done any thing too. She's like, well, it's nice
Speaker 2: to hear your voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's nice to hear your voice every
Speaker 1: once in a while.
Speaker 2: Well I don't get that, but it's just like, well,
Speaker 2: I like to hear your voice even and then she
Speaker 2: it's always backhand. She's like, even though I don't know
Speaker 2: what the fuck you're talking about most of the time, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are my So that's just how the kids speak.
Speaker 1: Mom, Yeah, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat. One of our favorites. A brilliant writer, speaker,
Speaker 1: social justice educator. Written for Ebony Complex, Out the Root,
Speaker 1: appeared on NBC News, BuzzFeed, Vox, among many others there.
Speaker 1: They're also the host of the amazing podcast BFF Black
Speaker 1: Fat Fem Please welcome back to the show, Doctor John
Speaker 1: Paul here.
Speaker 4: Hello, so hello, stomp it through the doors. Stomp it
Speaker 4: through the doors. So you know what I was sitting
Speaker 4: here listening one screaming at the Muppets reference. But did
Speaker 4: you know that doesn't is it? Jean Claude von dom Or?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 4: One of them have an album? One of them. It's
Speaker 4: either Sylvester Stallone or Jean Claude, they have a whole album.
Speaker 1: You're giving so much class to Jean Claude van Dams
Speaker 1: that you're like, Jean Claude whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well one of them, somebody has.
Speaker 1: It's ever sounded more classy than it did when you
Speaker 1: just said it there. I would be shocked if well,
Speaker 1: so Steven Sagal had. All three of them are the
Speaker 1: same person to me.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I can't believe more of them did not
Speaker 5: have novelty rap albums during the eighties, they were reaching
Speaker 5: their peak at a time when novelty rap albums were
Speaker 5: a thing.
Speaker 1: But I guess mister T jumped on that before they
Speaker 1: could or novelty rap songs. Do you.
Speaker 2: I just I feel like Schwarzenegger really should have had one.
Speaker 2: He was so down for the goofiness. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean that I feel like, like, yeah, I like
Speaker 2: I like to rap. Now have you seen just speaking
Speaker 2: of Siegal's music, there was one clip. I don't know
Speaker 2: if we ever I know I've shared it with people
Speaker 2: like off the show, but there's a lyric of him
Speaker 2: singing on stage where he says, if when you see
Speaker 2: my little girlfriend, you're gonna wet yourself. This is.
Speaker 1: Right, girlfriend, you go ahead to change the way out.
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, when you see my little girlfriend, have to
Speaker 2: change your underwear. So that's the kind of lyrical stylings
Speaker 2: we're getting from Russian poet Laureate steven.
Speaker 1: Sigh my little girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Look, Look, there's there's nothing but dark clouds that swirl
Speaker 2: around him.
Speaker 1: Goddamn yeah, my little Girlfriend's gonna.
Speaker 2: Make no co producer Justin just said he got a
Speaker 2: reggae song where he says miwandani yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Wait for me to divert the conversation. Yes,
Speaker 4: I am very much in the mind that he does
Speaker 4: have a whole, a whole song where he's singing in
Speaker 4: a Jamaican accent. That man, he was wild. The nineties
Speaker 4: were wild in general. But I think that that that
Speaker 4: itself is what's giving me pause.
Speaker 1: He never recovered, No, he never did. He never did,
Speaker 1: just disappeared into Russia. Yeah, yeah, man, he can. He
Speaker 1: can wind upon the da Bati in Russia.
Speaker 4: What a moment.
Speaker 1: Well, doctor John, We are going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in the moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things that
Speaker 1: we're talking about. An appeals court busted down Trump's immunity claim,
Speaker 1: which I guess that means things can move forward a
Speaker 1: little bit faster, but maybe still might not be as
Speaker 1: fast as it needs to for him to be convicted
Speaker 1: before he's president. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Republicans getting the border bill that they wanted
Speaker 1: and deciding to kill it. We'll talk about Valentine's Day candies.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about mixed reality headsets, all that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But before we get to any of it, doctor John Paul,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are?
Speaker 4: So speaking about virtual headsets. Yes, I was one of
Speaker 4: the people who purchased on the very first day the
Speaker 4: Apple Vision Pro. And yeah, I've just been googling a
Speaker 4: lot to see what people are doing with it, to
Speaker 4: see what people shouldn't be doing with it, i e.
Speaker 4: People who are driving their Tesla's while having one on,
Speaker 4: which I think is very silly. But yeah, I have
Speaker 4: not done any anything. I haven't done anything that I
Speaker 4: shouldn't be doing with it. But overall it has been
Speaker 4: very I don't know, it's peaceful. It's just really peaceful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we were just talking about it, and
Speaker 2: it seems like one of those things. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what you need it for, but I know
Speaker 2: if like if I had one, I'd probably be watching
Speaker 2: a movie or doing that kind of stuff on there
Speaker 2: Are you using it to like actually like do your
Speaker 2: minority report, like air computing and shit like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so the first day, so the first day
Speaker 4: I got it, I was just kind of playing and
Speaker 4: trying to learn it. The second day is when I
Speaker 4: was doing kind of like the Minority Report stuff. So
Speaker 4: like one day I had the Twitter, my Twitter thing open,
Speaker 4: and then I was watching a movie, and then on
Speaker 4: another side, I had like some some other stuff that
Speaker 4: I was googling and kind of reading and doing and stuff.
Speaker 4: And so it's cool because I'm one of those people
Speaker 4: who always tweets while I watch a movie, Like I'm
Speaker 4: always on my phone while movies and stuff are on.
Speaker 4: So it makes it really nice to be able to
Speaker 4: kind of still be like in one eye watching the
Speaker 4: movie over here, while on the other side of it
Speaker 4: being able to actually see like my Twitter feed and
Speaker 4: being able to like jump between all the different apps
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 2: So and then can you were you able to do
Speaker 2: that with a TV and a laptop? What do you
Speaker 2: mean like the same thing? Could you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always just curious, like because I know, like
Speaker 2: they're the that like the fun of it. But I
Speaker 2: guess what do you feel that it's quite round like
Speaker 2: groundbreaking yet?
Speaker 1: Because I know you're you love.
Speaker 2: Your Apple products, so I know, like, okay, I'm a
Speaker 2: huge it doesn't surprise me that you have that you
Speaker 2: had it, But what do you say to someone like
Speaker 2: me who's like, how do I like, is it indispensable
Speaker 2: yet or right now? Are you kind of in that
Speaker 2: place like it's fun? You know, it's for me.
Speaker 4: It's fun. I mean, you know. My partner's like, you're
Speaker 4: never going to use it, and I'm like, actually, I
Speaker 4: I've already used it quite a few times. But I
Speaker 4: think for me it's so I'm even with like my iPad,
Speaker 4: I used to be there. So I fly a lot.
Speaker 4: You all know that I'm always on the road, and
Speaker 4: so yeah, I was on the road, and so when
Speaker 4: when I'm flying, oftentimes I'll still have my headphones in
Speaker 4: and I'll have my iPad and people will still try
Speaker 4: to talk to me. And so that's the thing that
Speaker 4: no people literally will try to get like oh.
Speaker 1: What what are you doing? It's like, dude, I got yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, Like don't you see the AirPods in my ear?
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk to you. And it's no shade,
Speaker 4: It's just I'm not a travel person who likes to
Speaker 4: convene and converse with people. When I'm traveling, I don't
Speaker 4: want to talk to you. I want to get to
Speaker 4: where I'm going and I want to be able to
Speaker 4: like unpack the day and go on about my business.
Speaker 4: And so it's nice because the thing that the thing
Speaker 4: that sold me outside of the immersive video, and I'm
Speaker 4: praying and I'm hoping that Beyonce will release Renaissance and
Speaker 4: immersive video. The immersive video is what sold me. I
Speaker 4: don't know if any of you know what the immersive
Speaker 4: video is, but it's literally like there's a there's a
Speaker 4: clip when you do the demo of Alicia Keys singing
Speaker 4: and although your ears are bleeding, it is very much
Speaker 4: you're in the studio with her, and it really feels
Speaker 4: like you're with her. And so I'm here for the
Speaker 4: immersive video part of it. But it was really cool.
Speaker 4: They have these these backgrounds you can change. There's like
Speaker 4: eighteen of them where you're like outside or you're like
Speaker 4: in the snow and you're in the mountain. You can
Speaker 4: turn that on while you're watching a movie and it
Speaker 4: feels like you're outside watching a hundred foot like I
Speaker 4: mean a hundred whatever, Yeah, yeah, a gigantic ass screen,
Speaker 4: you know, and the music and I mean all the
Speaker 4: stuff in your ear. It's just it's like I said,
Speaker 4: I bought it for the immersive video that's right.
Speaker 1: That's like.
Speaker 2: That to me was like the one thing I could
Speaker 2: be like, oh I could get lost just being high
Speaker 2: shiit and like watching for like some very effects heavy
Speaker 2: film or whatever, just seeing anything that to me, I
Speaker 2: was like, it looks like a cool TV. The computing stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I would I don't know if.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it has it has really cool features.
Speaker 4: But for me, the biggest thing that sold me was
Speaker 4: I can put this on my eyes. I can put
Speaker 4: my AirPods on. Because people are like, oh, you can't
Speaker 4: really hear the sound. But when I was in my
Speaker 4: living room, my husband was like, I can hear it,
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, bet so you can put
Speaker 4: your AirPods in, put it over your eyes, and literally
Speaker 4: the whole entire flight. I don't have to be bothered.
Speaker 4: It's it's a really really nice thing.
Speaker 1: So although I feel like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey, man, is that cool? Is it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Is Apple Vision pro cool? Oh my god? What's that? Like?
Speaker 1: That Vision Pro? Can I try it? No? Yeah? Are
Speaker 1: you fucking for real?
Speaker 2: I'm wearing the biggest headphones that are covering half my
Speaker 2: head plus some cobbles. You think I want to fucking
Speaker 2: like that's what's so funny. Just imagine you getting interrupted
Speaker 2: with that shit on is like peeling off your headphone.
Speaker 2: Then the lifting the fucking godless to make eye contact
Speaker 2: me like a.
Speaker 1: Fuck alone, gives you a lot of business to do,
Speaker 1: like very aggravatedly, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I realized that I look foolish with them on.
Speaker 4: I get it. I know there's been a lot of
Speaker 4: jokes that people have been cracking about the folks who
Speaker 4: have the pros on and are walking around and doing stuff.
Speaker 4: But what I will also say is that a lot
Speaker 4: of the videos that people are singing about these things,
Speaker 4: they're fake because they're you. It's very so the people
Speaker 4: try to make it seem like it's so clear when
Speaker 4: you're walking, it's actually not. It's very I would say
Speaker 4: it's very pixelated, but it is very much you're looking
Speaker 4: through a camera when you're walking around. And so the
Speaker 4: thought of walking day to day and then like trying
Speaker 4: to do all of the stuff that you're doing while
Speaker 4: you have it on your face, it's impossible. It's it's
Speaker 4: very much giving like.
Speaker 1: It driving feels like it should be illegal, right, we
Speaker 1: have laws around the ship. We have laws around like
Speaker 1: you can't drive well drunk for instance. Yeah, so this
Speaker 1: this feels like a similar thing where it should be illegal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen too. I saw one video that was even
Speaker 1: designed to make it look like it was just spot
Speaker 1: somebody being spotted in the wild. They stopped at a
Speaker 1: porta potty and then came out of the porta potty
Speaker 1: with the provision pro on and then like drove off
Speaker 1: with the pros on, but like they also had toilet
Speaker 1: paper streaming out from their foot, and it just it
Speaker 1: felt like it was.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what we were saying. And the Weekend Trends episode,
Speaker 2: like a lot of the stuff we saw was because
Speaker 2: a lot of content makers got Yeah, they got the headsets,
Speaker 2: and we're from there being like, let's do bits because
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna want to see what this looks like.
Speaker 1: So well, we'll get into what science has to say
Speaker 1: about the whole damn thing a little later on before
Speaker 1: we get to that. What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Over rated? Okay, So I will just say this. I
Speaker 4: live in an area that is very much becoming heavily gentrified,
Speaker 4: and they just put and I still don't comprehend. And
Speaker 4: I guess, Okay, so I understand why there's a Starbucks
Speaker 4: on every corner. However, they just put another Chick fil
Speaker 4: A on the other side of one of the streets that, yes,
Speaker 4: like there's a Chick fil A right on one side
Speaker 4: when you get off on the freeway because I live
Speaker 4: near a freeway, And then they just put another Chick
Speaker 4: fil A on the other side of yeah, And I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is so stupid, but it is. It's causing a
Speaker 4: lot of backup, like the like one of the main
Speaker 4: streets that I used to get into my apartment complex
Speaker 4: is now like I'm having to go around or go
Speaker 4: through the back gate now because of how much traffic
Speaker 4: it is. And it's just stupid. And I guess my
Speaker 4: overrated To get to my point is the food is
Speaker 4: not that good. I'm sorry, I don't believe that. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's not even about the hate. It's like the food
Speaker 4: is just not that good and the lines are always
Speaker 4: so long, and I'm like, do people really like unseevess
Speaker 4: and food that much? Like because it's not seasoned, well,
Speaker 4: the oil is not good, Like there's nothing about Chick
Speaker 4: fil a.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 4: I don't get it. They don't even have soda.
Speaker 1: They don't have soda.
Speaker 4: No, I think they only have tea and lemonade.
Speaker 1: No, they gotta have soda.
Speaker 4: They do not have soda. My husband said that they
Speaker 4: do not have soda, and I am almost one hundred
Speaker 4: they don't. I don't think they carry soda.
Speaker 1: That's is that trime against fast food?
Speaker 4: But yeah, they do, they have coke.
Speaker 2: I was like, doctor John, you cannot operate in the
Speaker 2: United States without offering the.
Speaker 4: Fake, fake newses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or will come for you.
Speaker 4: Right, but the food is still terrible.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously what we learned with the chicken sandwich worse.
Speaker 2: Other people learned how to make a good chicken sandwich.
Speaker 2: So you can no longer say that there's only one
Speaker 2: rightful air to the chicken sand was thrown. But yeah,
Speaker 2: to your point, I hate when it like every time
Speaker 2: a Chick fil A opens up, it's the traffic it causes.
Speaker 2: It's just like the same thing because for so long
Speaker 2: in the West Coast people never had Chick fil A,
Speaker 2: And there's all these things like when I go back
Speaker 2: used to visit my family or whatever, like we go
Speaker 2: to Chick fil A, and now that it's here, it
Speaker 2: becomes like they got and you gotta line up and sure, sure.
Speaker 4: Just say with in and Out. In and Out is
Speaker 4: also overrated. It's good, but it's overrated.
Speaker 1: At least it's good like that. I was just having
Speaker 1: that thought that, like, there are these fast food restaurants
Speaker 1: that have ceased being fast food because they are so popular.
Speaker 1: I think the two that jump out to me are
Speaker 1: Chick fil A and in and Out. In and Out though,
Speaker 1: like once you're done, you just feel like you've had,
Speaker 1: like you've got what you came for. Where it's Chick
Speaker 1: fil A, yeah, I feel like it's it's just kind
Speaker 1: of coasting on reputation at this point and like be
Speaker 1: having been rolled out at a good speed where it
Speaker 1: like never got overexposed or something. And that's why Chick
Speaker 1: fil A, Like I feel like they did something smart
Speaker 1: along the way, they like capitalized on some social contagion
Speaker 1: and now I think this is just like a very
Speaker 1: classically good, overrated. I think you're absolutely right that Chick
Speaker 1: fil A is just you.
Speaker 4: Know, and I know we've mentioned it here before. I've
Speaker 4: listened to the show daily and I know that it's
Speaker 4: been mentioned, but I just had to go back on
Speaker 4: record and just say it's not worth the time and
Speaker 4: it is not like even And I think to your point,
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 4: those the quote unquote Christian values. I think there's so
Speaker 4: many people who are like, well, because it's such a
Speaker 4: strong Christian org that's why we support it, because we're
Speaker 4: good Christians. And it's like, baby, you like there's better
Speaker 4: food out there, Like, spend your money somewhere else. Someone
Speaker 4: just made a point about raising kings. Now I'm one
Speaker 4: of those clowns that will sit in line for raising kanes.
Speaker 4: Give me some canesa, that cane sauce. I have not
Speaker 4: had canes, Jack, You are you a Christian? You have't
Speaker 4: been raising caine?
Speaker 2: Oh some days I wasn't able.
Speaker 1: There was always canes.
Speaker 4: There is, Baby, it might.
Speaker 1: Actually be the the one, Like I think this is
Speaker 1: maybe the fourteenth positive review I've heard of raising cane,
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the one that gets me there.
Speaker 2: And then think, remember in the rehearsal, Nathan built an
Speaker 2: entire raising canes for that one guy to confront his brother. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's in the air, it's in.
Speaker 4: The yeah, I am that girl that will pre start.
Speaker 4: I can prestart my car from an app and I
Speaker 4: will start my car to get in it to go
Speaker 4: down to the raisin canes. Honey.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Means also, I mean if you, oh yeah, you put
Speaker 2: canes up against Chick fil A, and I'm sorry, Chick
Speaker 2: fil A, you have to go all the way to
Speaker 2: the back because.
Speaker 4: The Chick fil A sauce it ain't it ain't. It's
Speaker 4: not the cane sauce. What's that other chicken place? Zaxby's
Speaker 4: is good too. When I go back to I always
Speaker 4: like zaxby zax He's just really good.
Speaker 1: What is something that you think is underrated me?
Speaker 4: No, definitely, I'm here. I know you're supposed to plug it,
Speaker 4: but yes, my podcast, I always tell people, if you
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Speaker 1: It just you can't.
Speaker 4: You've got to get over there and listen. It is
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Speaker 4: black fat fans.
Speaker 2: Like hopefully you're saying the national anthem, Lift every chair.
Speaker 4: That's actually the title of our episode. We lift every
Speaker 4: chair and swing.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yes, yes, But then there's new Like,
Speaker 2: so are you doing the update too, because I remember
Speaker 2: some people got charges, other people didn't get charges.
Speaker 4: I feel like we haven't done any updates.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, because I remember there was some breaking
Speaker 2: stuff and oh it's like, oh, guess who didn't get
Speaker 2: charged and guess a lot of Yeah. Yeah, but anyway,
Speaker 2: lift every chair and swing. Check that episode out for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's take a quick break and we
Speaker 1: will be right back. And we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: And recently I had heard the Trump's claimed that he
Speaker 1: was like a to do crimes, was like holding up
Speaker 1: his case in DC for like the one based on
Speaker 1: around January sixth. Yep, yep, there is news that a
Speaker 1: federal appeals court just rejected his claim that he has
Speaker 1: immune from criminal charges for acts that he said fell
Speaker 1: within his duties as president and therefore can't be tried
Speaker 1: for plotting to overturn the twenty twenty election. A three
Speaker 1: judge panel stated unanimously that the fuck out of here, essentially,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Knew when when they first went to that court hearing
Speaker 2: and they were like, so, I'm sorry, So so you
Speaker 2: could just like murder a political opponent and yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's all good. Yeah, Like what you're arguing is you
Speaker 2: can do assassinations?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's not what I'm saying specifically here,
Speaker 2: but I guess I would fall under it if I
Speaker 2: if if my client did have total immunity. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a moment of progress. Like we said, I
Speaker 2: think last week when we're checking it, with the pace
Speaker 2: of these cases, I don't think there's any reason to
Speaker 2: think we're going to see anything happen by election day.
Speaker 2: But the fact that this happened does make it we
Speaker 2: can get to the answer sooner, which is will the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court step in to help Donald Trump out, and
Speaker 2: we don't know quite yet. I mean, they could just
Speaker 2: outright be like, no, you know, sounds like it's been decided.
Speaker 2: We don't need to we don't need to hear this,
Speaker 2: and then really put him out there, or the drama
Speaker 2: will continue and they'll be like, well, you know, three
Speaker 2: of us did get this job because of him, so
Speaker 2: I mean, like maybe we can, you know, hear what
Speaker 2: he has to say. But that's what's interesting about this
Speaker 2: decision is that in this court ruling, they were using
Speaker 2: the words of the conservative justices to sort of like
Speaker 2: underline their point, to be like, this is why there's
Speaker 2: no such thing as immunity. So, I mean, and then
Speaker 2: most universes you would be like, well, I mean, if
Speaker 2: they use their own words against the people that may
Speaker 2: ultimately overturn it, that must be compelling for them to
Speaker 2: just sort of maintain what is happening here.
Speaker 1: But not this one, not these, not these ones, so the.
Speaker 2: Next one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they were. They pointed out that ruling in
Speaker 1: his face in Trump's favor would neutralize the most fundamental
Speaker 1: check on executive power, the recognition and implementation of election results,
Speaker 1: which seems pretty fair. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean but I guess that's the
Speaker 2: thing is like if the Supreme Court did rule that
Speaker 2: he could, then does then Joe Byron be like, okay,
Speaker 2: got you right?
Speaker 1: Watch if is that how we're playing?
Speaker 2: Because I'm here now already and Trump is a citizen.
Speaker 2: But unless he goes like, I am retroactively the president.
Speaker 2: So therefore I'm I'm I'm living here now. Give he's
Speaker 2: a squatting. I don't know what about.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court. Have they ruled on whether he's allowed
Speaker 1: on the ballot, like the Colorado and whatever that other
Speaker 1: state was Maine? Was it that ruled that he wasn't
Speaker 1: allowed on the bat.
Speaker 2: There were like three of them, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: or I don't think they have yet, Okay yeah.
Speaker 1: They also pointed out that this position also contradicts Trump's
Speaker 1: previous defense and his twenty twenty one impeachment trial, which
Speaker 1: I had totally forgotten about. I guess there is an
Speaker 1: impeachment trial for Trump in twenty twenty one after he
Speaker 1: was out of office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like the one right after people were like,
Speaker 2: wasn't that bad? On January sixth?
Speaker 1: It's crazy that I totally forgot an impeachment trial.
Speaker 4: It was like a whole month.
Speaker 2: It's a sophomore jinx.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The second album just doesn't hit as hard as the
Speaker 2: first time a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: But his lawyer argued at that time that the Senate
Speaker 1: should have quit him because the Justice Department should decide
Speaker 1: if Trump engaged an insurrection over the January sixth Capitol
Speaker 1: and they have yeah, and so this is the Justice Department,
Speaker 1: and he's like, what's this shit, No way, You're not
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. Well, so I don't know, it
Speaker 1: still might not affect whether he gets elected, and we
Speaker 1: might not you know, if he does get elected, we
Speaker 1: might not see this case, you know, go through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because what does it like if he does
Speaker 4: get elected, not putting that out in the universe. If
Speaker 4: he does get elected, basically all the stuff will go away, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, he would just basically tell the DOJ, like,
Speaker 2: He'll just lean on them to be like.
Speaker 1: Drop all these cases.
Speaker 4: The cases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, goodbye that one and that one, and double those
Speaker 2: cases against Biden.
Speaker 4: Ninety of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's ninety one counts, Okay, it's counts, Okay,
Speaker 2: Just spread out over.
Speaker 1: Like if he gets elected, Biden's probably going to jail, right,
Speaker 1: That's like crazy to think, but almost definitely that's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. So, you know, Biden's got a lot
Speaker 1: going on too. People are always like Trump's fighting for
Speaker 1: his life. Well guess what, Yeah, so are we all
Speaker 1: so fucking everybody?
Speaker 2: And He's doing his best to be like how can
Speaker 2: I break up the coalition of voters that I had
Speaker 2: to get into office and still win?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, all right border bill, yeah phrase, I'm hearing
Speaker 1: a lot these days.
Speaker 2: Well I think, yeah, it's just another example of kind
Speaker 2: of like what the Republicans are trying to do to
Speaker 2: help Donald Trump win at all costs. So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, for the last forever, for fucking ever, they're
Speaker 2: like the boder got these open borders, it's fucking war.
Speaker 1: There's an invasion, there's the you.
Speaker 2: Know what do they say, like the caravans they're all coming.
Speaker 2: This is like the rhetoric that they always use constantly
Speaker 2: to talk about like this border crisis. And so there
Speaker 2: was like a bipartisan bill that was put together in
Speaker 2: the Senate that like combined like aid packages sixty billion
Speaker 2: for Ukraine fourteen billion for Israel and twenty billion for
Speaker 2: the border.
Speaker 1: I'm like, where can we get some of these this money?
Speaker 1: Can the roads?
Speaker 4: I said that, I said, they're not. You know, I was.
Speaker 4: I was very much in the mind when when the
Speaker 4: student loans kicked back up in October. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm finally in a place as an adult where i
Speaker 4: can afford to pay my loans back. So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go ahead and do it. And then I saw this
Speaker 4: last night before I went to bed, and I said,
Speaker 4: they're not getting one red synonymy I'm not paying none
Speaker 4: of my student loans back, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's tough. And I think when you
Speaker 2: see this amount of capital just flying towards arms, you're like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it makes it pretty clear, like
Speaker 2: what our priorities here.
Speaker 1: It's called child poverty in the US doubled last year, right,
Speaker 1: this is what respect what you need?
Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, exactly. And so anyway, they put
Speaker 2: all of this stuff together. That way they the aid
Speaker 2: that needed to go to Ukraine and Israel was packaged,
Speaker 2: and also that they could quote unquote solve this border crisis.
Speaker 2: And I mean the optics were heavily in favor of
Speaker 2: the Republicans more and so in the sense that like
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is like, I mean, what am I going
Speaker 2: to be like more lenient. I mean, he's pretty conservative
Speaker 2: already when it comes to his immigration policies, but they
Speaker 2: dragged him further to the right in this bill, Like
Speaker 2: this is like money for more to ten, more fucking
Speaker 2: boots on the ground, more border patrol funding, no fucking
Speaker 2: viable pathway to citizenship, Like it was basically the republic
Speaker 2: like the ubms got what the fuck they wanted, like
Speaker 2: truly and so, and a lot of people were like, damn,
Speaker 2: I guess Biden is willing to do that just to
Speaker 2: sort of like end this argument, even though many people
Speaker 2: were like, that's not gonna help with people that are
Speaker 2: like more of your mainstream Democrats and more progressives and
Speaker 2: people further to the left are like, this is backwards.
Speaker 2: So anyway, the bill.
Speaker 1: Was there appeaser, not exactly greater negotiated with a great appeaser.
Speaker 2: He's just exactly an appeasement has such a storied history
Speaker 2: of being successful reasonable characters every time.
Speaker 1: Every time.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's also like a recent thing in the
Speaker 2: Guardian that talked about how when uh, you know, like
Speaker 2: liberal governments or you know, like begin to adopt more
Speaker 2: conservative policies to try and win votes, it never fucking works.
Speaker 1: You just put off the fucking.
Speaker 2: People that wanted you there in the first place, Like
Speaker 2: what the fuck are these idiot's doing, Like you're not
Speaker 2: going to impress these right wing people by doing that.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Donald Trump does not want the border anything solved,
Speaker 2: so he basically told his little lackeys on the hill
Speaker 2: to say kill the bill. It's not it can't get
Speaker 2: past because he needs total fucking chaos at the border.
Speaker 2: And you know, this bill was negotiated by Senator James
Speaker 2: Langford from Oklahoma, who's not even close to being some
Speaker 2: kind of moderate. So like it's it's wild to see
Speaker 2: what's not wild? This is just what happens like when
Speaker 2: you have Donald Trump really running it, and it just
Speaker 2: makes them look even more ignorant, power hungry, nativist when
Speaker 2: they want to do all this stuff of being like
Speaker 2: it's like it's a war for the soul of our
Speaker 2: nation at the border. But then you get a bill
Speaker 2: to solve it with all the shit that you want,
Speaker 2: and then you're like it's dead on arrival. Yeah, with
Speaker 2: no explanation, really no explanation. I mean, there was even
Speaker 2: this woman who went to the border in Texas because
Speaker 2: she was so hopped up up on fucking maga nativist
Speaker 2: propaganda that she was like, I wanted to see this
Speaker 2: for myself, to see what happened. She was even like, huh.
Speaker 6: I've been talking to these folks who have come from
Speaker 6: all over Texas even other parts of the country to
Speaker 6: be here, and some of them, even though we are
Speaker 6: about a half hour from Eagle Pass, have driven down
Speaker 6: to Eagle Pass to try to actually see what's happening
Speaker 6: at the border. And I spoke to a number of
Speaker 6: people who said that they're a little surprised by what
Speaker 6: they're seeing here. I want to play a conversation with
Speaker 6: a woman, Misty, take a listen.
Speaker 1: It was. It's pretty surreal.
Speaker 3: We actually made it into Eagle Pass and we went and.
Speaker 2: Saw Shelby Park. I was able to.
Speaker 3: See some people actually trying to cross and stopped at
Speaker 3: the wire there. So it was it's very eye opening.
Speaker 6: So and tell me more about eye opening. Is it
Speaker 6: what you expected, is it better?
Speaker 2: Is it worse?
Speaker 3: It's not what I expected. But then again, I don't
Speaker 3: know what I expected. I can tell you it's not
Speaker 3: as bad as what I thought.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: They Oh, there's a lot of people. I mean, the
Speaker 1: general vibe down there, and this is based only on
Speaker 1: anecdotal eyewitness videos, but people seem to be like turning
Speaker 1: on each other a little bit, Like everybody got down
Speaker 1: there in the caravan and they're like, there's nothing to
Speaker 1: do here, but so they're like getting mad at each other,
Speaker 1: like you're not Christian enough for yeah.
Speaker 2: Or there's people just grifting, like they're like just people
Speaker 2: who like do live streams and they're.
Speaker 1: Like these people don't care about America. They're like, no shit. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a certain amount of people who are
Speaker 2: absolutely falling for it and believe that is the situation.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are like, now, you know
Speaker 2: how you can get a lot of views just go
Speaker 2: down there and scream racist shit into the air. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just I think it's important
Speaker 2: people to understand, like anything we have in politics, when
Speaker 2: politicians have a chance to fucking solve and a problem
Speaker 2: and they don't, that's by design. It's because they would
Speaker 2: rather have that be an issue they can continue to
Speaker 2: screen about and fear monger over, and also helps people
Speaker 2: understand or makes people think that, like, these issues aren't
Speaker 2: necessarily solvable in a way that isn't rife with chaos.
Speaker 2: So for Republicans, they don't want to solve immigration because
Speaker 2: then you can be like, oh, there's a way to
Speaker 2: do this like piecemeal maybe and make this thing work,
Speaker 2: And so they don't. They absolutely want to avoid that.
Speaker 2: It's either you know, it's like an all or nothing
Speaker 2: situation for them, or even like the Democrats.
Speaker 1: Are like, we're going to caudify Row.
Speaker 2: Maybe Yeah, it's just it's more, it's just it's easier
Speaker 2: to have those kinds of issues that are motivators for
Speaker 2: people rather than actually, you know, solving it.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of there's this historian, American historian who
Speaker 1: moved his family out of the US right when Mitch
Speaker 1: McConnell did the like obstructionist thing where he like wouldn't
Speaker 1: let Obama are Yeah, the Americ Carlen thing through. I
Speaker 1: think that was it. It might have been something even
Speaker 1: like before that, but he and he or I think
Speaker 1: his wife was like wrote a column for The New
Speaker 1: York You're talking about like returning it or like viewing
Speaker 1: America falling apart from another country, and like how just
Speaker 1: wait when you really like zoom out from that philosophy
Speaker 1: of just being obstructionist and not being willing to do
Speaker 1: the opposite of your job right and instead of government
Speaker 1: and make people's lives better, try and sow chaos and
Speaker 1: create worse conditions so that your party can do better.
Speaker 1: Like from that very initial like appearance of that philosophy,
Speaker 1: they were like, this is going in a fascist direction,
Speaker 1: which I think even to me at the time, I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, they're really like ahead of the like
Speaker 1: over their skis a little bit like, but they I
Speaker 1: think that they were like, as this is spread, it
Speaker 1: has become increasingly Yeah, they just want to watch the
Speaker 1: world burn because watching the world burn it gives them
Speaker 1: an opportunity to grab more power. And I think that's
Speaker 1: also like I feel like I'm seeing that philosophy on
Speaker 1: the side of like capitalism too, because now you know,
Speaker 1: disaster capitalism is such a thing that people are, you know,
Speaker 1: view wors More's conditions as moneypnities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think he had always has,
Speaker 2: but I think it's at the time people were like, Wow,
Speaker 2: the Republicans are being petty. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and and
Speaker 2: maybe that's how the analogy to get.
Speaker 1: Archie McConnell out of there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But when it's like, when it's something like that, that's
Speaker 2: what turns into full blown Yeah all right, round them up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like it no more. Yeah, exactly, let me
Speaker 2: show you.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we're all on line that we shouldn't be on anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, we're continuing to say who can they can't be here.
Speaker 4: That's got to love America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And some of it's so much of the the
Speaker 2: hysteria around the border is like, you know, just wrapped
Speaker 2: in this like great replacement theory nonsense. They're like they
Speaker 2: just want these people to come in because those are
Speaker 2: Joe Byron voters, right, And you're like, that's not how
Speaker 2: any of it works. But just yeah, yeah, well, let's.
Speaker 1: Take a quick break and come back and talk about
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day candy. Yeah, and the Apple Vision Pro Plus
Speaker 1: is it Apple Vision Pro? Is that right?
Speaker 4: It's the Apple Vision pro all right.
Speaker 1: I gotta get that. I gotta get that into my
Speaker 1: brain because it is our new hardware or the name
Speaker 1: that's the problem. This has made me very aware that
Speaker 1: like we just need the contact ones. That's that's when
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. It's when we can just be
Speaker 1: wearing it without people realizing. Can you imagine how bulky
Speaker 1: that first one is going to be? The contact lines? Yeah,
Speaker 1: your eye keeps drifting down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look like those people that have that like
Speaker 2: condition where they can pop their eyes out, who see
Speaker 2: like viral hits in the nineties, like hey, lady, make
Speaker 2: your eyes pop out? How these prices?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they stayed working though.
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's like these two there's like a black
Speaker 2: woman and a black guy I remember who like had
Speaker 2: the ipop eyebug out market cornered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was always impressed. Those are huge celebrities in
Speaker 1: my book. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back, and we're back. I feel like
Speaker 1: the local version of that is the people who could
Speaker 1: squirt milk out of their eyes. You ever know somebody
Speaker 1: who could squ squirt milk out of their eyes?
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I've seen that, but yeah, I've I
Speaker 2: knew I didn't know someone, you knew someone personally they
Speaker 2: could do that.
Speaker 1: I think I knew someone personally. Maybe I'm just like confusing, real,
Speaker 1: it's so gross.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like how do you figure that out?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like someone like in your your family's like you know,
Speaker 2: they come from a long line of milk party trickers
Speaker 2: that can milk come out of our tear ducts.
Speaker 1: That was a survival. That was how you serve.
Speaker 2: That would be to be like, oh, would you like
Speaker 2: some cream with your coffee?
Speaker 1: Yeah, once I know your Royal highness, your.
Speaker 2: Royal highness royal all right, it is that time of
Speaker 2: year once again for us too.
Speaker 1: You got one yeah, one week left folks till it's
Speaker 1: time to just load them up with candy and cards
Speaker 1: and love and devotion through consumerism.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You got to How will you know your
Speaker 2: partner loves you unless they buy you a rose made
Speaker 2: of chocolates?
Speaker 4: Those heart shaped candy chalk?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sweet?
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's this. You know, every year there's a
Speaker 2: list most popular candy for me. Sorry, I just I'm
Speaker 2: so over, I'm so angry at the heart shaped chalk.
Speaker 2: I just I'm really the reason I even want to
Speaker 2: talk about this. So this the list comes out most
Speaker 2: popular candy Valentine's Candy by state, California, Alaska, New York,
Speaker 2: but a few many places chocolate like those sweethearts chalk
Speaker 2: heart things are like fucking number one, although they're surprisingly
Speaker 2: a very high number of chocolates, which I think are
Speaker 2: more appropriate than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole nation is a sea of chocolate except
Speaker 1: for fucking New York in California and Alaska, like fucking okay,
Speaker 1: you want to call them flyover country. At least they're
Speaker 1: not eating fucking chalk hearts.
Speaker 2: But like, it's just so this has me thinking right
Speaker 2: like about even Valentine's Day and if candies are even
Speaker 2: like the metric we should even be looking at because
Speaker 2: that feels like the like if you have put no
Speaker 2: thought into it, you're just like, here's the here's some chocolates.
Speaker 2: I got the pharmacy at the last minute.
Speaker 1: Yea, And I feel like the ultimate last minute, like
Speaker 1: what what is open in between me and their house?
Speaker 1: And I'm only three blocks away from their house.
Speaker 2: Right and and they're out of old spaghetti factory gift cards,
Speaker 2: So I don't know what. I don't know what to
Speaker 2: get you, but like I feel like I don't know
Speaker 2: when I in like the early days of a relationship
Speaker 2: and Valentine's Day came around, like you're like, okay, like
Speaker 2: you know, I've been lonely for a little bit. Now
Speaker 2: I got Now, I got a little booth thing. I
Speaker 2: want to do something for Valentine's Day. But like, as
Speaker 2: like even my own like relationship turned marriage now has progressed.
Speaker 2: We found other. Is that like we show each other,
Speaker 2: like our appreciation for each other, that isn't so tied
Speaker 2: to Valentine's Day. So I'm just even wondering, are for
Speaker 2: the both of you who are happily bowed up our
Speaker 2: our candies essential to this holiday? And b is this
Speaker 2: holiday even essential to our relationship?
Speaker 1: Our relationship, Uh, my wife and my relationship fully built
Speaker 1: on a bedrock of chalk hearts. That's only way we communicate.
Speaker 2: I just passed her, she passed, how's your youngest son
Speaker 2: chalkhart doing? I know you named your kids? Even after that?
Speaker 1: No, we yeah, we used to go like even pretty
Speaker 1: deep into our relationship. We would go out to dinner
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, you know, try and go to write
Speaker 1: a good restaurant, get reservations well in advance, and we
Speaker 1: quickly noticed that you are getting a suboptimal experience at
Speaker 1: that restaurant, Like you're getting the worst version of that restaurant, right,
Speaker 1: They're slammed. They've got like the Sometimes they'll do like
Speaker 1: a prefixed menu, Like I've gone to restaurants that we
Speaker 1: loved and they've been terrible on Valentine's Day. And I've
Speaker 1: gone to restaurants that we never went to again that
Speaker 1: other people love, you know, that recommended, and they're you know,
Speaker 1: just bad. It's a bad situations. So we generally don't
Speaker 1: do that much. Sometimes we'll do like a I try
Speaker 1: and like think outside of the box. Like recently, I
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna do a picnic and I'm put
Speaker 1: together a picnic and it was fucking freezing cold and
Speaker 1: windy as hell because it is February, even in LA Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 2: February, what about you, doctor John?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I concur you know, the first few year,
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, I have to make sure that
Speaker 4: I make the best impression on Valentine's Day for my partner.
Speaker 4: So I always try to do something the day leading
Speaker 4: up to Valentine's Day. So we're doing we're celebrating our
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day on Sunday, and I like to. For me,
Speaker 4: it's like about making memories versus just giving my partner stuff.
Speaker 4: We are in a place now where we live in
Speaker 4: a two two bathroom, and I'm looking around and I'm going,
Speaker 4: we have no more room for stuff, so I'm not
Speaker 4: going to buy you anything else to continue to that.
Speaker 4: We have to figure out where we're gonna put it
Speaker 4: or where what are we gonna do with it?
Speaker 1: So I like you are looking around when you're making
Speaker 1: that decision, You're looking around through your Apple vision pro.
Speaker 4: Yes. Yes, and I'm going.
Speaker 2: More stuff.
Speaker 4: Right right, right right, so as I as I shove
Speaker 4: it into my overly packed closet. But no, I will say,
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is about making memory. So there,
Speaker 4: I did plan something on Sunday for my partner, and
Speaker 4: we're going to do all of our stuff on Sunday.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I and and then it's just about for me.
Speaker 4: It's tradition. I do sees for him every year. He knows.
Speaker 4: It's just kind of something. I do it for Valentine's Day,
Speaker 4: for Christmas.
Speaker 1: He gets.
Speaker 4: He gets seese, but it's mostly because I want to
Speaker 4: eat them. So yes, I buy candy. So I can
Speaker 4: eat them.
Speaker 1: And I will also say my wife grew up like
Speaker 1: not having much sugar in her diet, like she you know,
Speaker 1: koreated her parents, like the dessert was fruit. She just
Speaker 1: like doesn't really fuck with candy, So any candy that
Speaker 1: comes in the household is eaten by me.
Speaker 2: Oh she still has maintained the like doesn't necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she doesn't show because I had the same thing, like
Speaker 2: no soda, Like if I had juice, moms, like you
Speaker 2: want to juice this orange ra fuck?
Speaker 1: But then I go to my friend's houses.
Speaker 2: We had like the fucking spare fridge in the garage,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I will drink a twelve pack of
Speaker 2: cactus cooler fucking right now, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the fread like had the cooler in the
Speaker 1: garage or the fridge in the garage, those garage fridges.
Speaker 1: I never had it, but like just a soda fridge,
Speaker 1: just a soda fridge, like yo, were you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That was always like how the fuck do you so?
Speaker 2: Where where do y'all get all this soda?
Speaker 1: Like how many six?
Speaker 2: And they're like we go to Smart and Final or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is that? And they're like
Speaker 2: this is where you can buy fucking boxes.
Speaker 1: With this ship.
Speaker 4: Costco High school who had parents that went to Costco
Speaker 4: and would load up the refrigerator and it was always
Speaker 4: like for me, it was like in our house because
Speaker 4: we were so poor, it was like you got one
Speaker 4: soda dinner and that was it and if you wanted
Speaker 4: another one, drinks the water. Whereas like over their house,
Speaker 4: it was like, you want another soda right after you're
Speaker 4: finishing your soda.
Speaker 7: You're like, what, yeah, soda, Dad is so yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, like I get I
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 2: Yet we have so many of these holidays that are
Speaker 2: built around consuming and like and they're like, well, you
Speaker 2: have to consume to show your love of Christ and
Speaker 2: family for the holidays like Christmas or whatever, and you
Speaker 2: can consume show it. Yeah, so you're consumed to show
Speaker 2: your love of your partner by buying pink ship at
Speaker 2: the store. But I mean, like, yeah, I think to
Speaker 2: your point, memories are so much like those are longer lasting.
Speaker 2: I feel like if anything, I'm probably like, let's go
Speaker 2: bowling or some shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I are going bowling tonight. You are, Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I ate baby, I've been bowling more.
Speaker 2: It's weird, I think ever since we were talking about
Speaker 2: how like bowling used to be like the sort of
Speaker 2: cornerstone of like Americans, like social socializing. I'm like trying
Speaker 2: to get people to bowl again, and I'm fucking terrible.
Speaker 2: Is that gang, yo? If you know how to bowl, well,
Speaker 2: please hit me up. I have no control, no control,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to use the bumpers, and it's
Speaker 2: it fucks with me that I'm like, how can I
Speaker 2: not roll balls straight down lane? Yeah? They're so strong,
Speaker 2: arms straight. Every time I try and curve it, I
Speaker 2: just gutter ball that ship. But I love it. I
Speaker 2: love the one thing.
Speaker 1: Also a request for that gang. Are you a fan
Speaker 1: of the Chalky Candy Hearts? Like? Is do you exist?
Speaker 1: Because like, I can't fathom eating one of those on purpose.
Speaker 1: I guess I ate one when I was a child.
Speaker 1: That was a mistake I didn't make again, Like, right,
Speaker 1: do you intentionally eat those? Yeah?
Speaker 4: It's like who eats peeps?
Speaker 2: People?
Speaker 4: They come back around every year around March and it's like,
Speaker 4: why are you still here.
Speaker 1: In a pinch as a sugar addict? I have eaten peeps.
Speaker 1: I cannot bring myself to the chalky, like.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, even in that, even in your time of
Speaker 2: greatest need, You're like, I have standards.
Speaker 1: I am addicted to sugar, and I will not fuck
Speaker 1: with these, like there's something I don't I must be missing,
Speaker 1: or like, oh maybe it's just something that like other
Speaker 1: people kind of fuck with them.
Speaker 2: You raise a point in your notes about like why
Speaker 2: is it so big and California because Californians are so
Speaker 2: fucking I don't know. In LA, people would be like
Speaker 2: scoff at you to be like you did what for
Speaker 2: how much? Valentine's Day kind of shit where I feel
Speaker 2: like my but every fucking year in school it was
Speaker 2: like the thing everyone just fucking brought.
Speaker 1: I think it's how many like kid kids are in
Speaker 1: the like in your state. I don't thinking do kids
Speaker 1: love them or are they just convenient for school?
Speaker 2: I'm just saying if Texas is you know one of
Speaker 2: you know, like so much, book policy is determined by
Speaker 2: them because the share volume of books that are bought.
Speaker 2: But they got their their candy is Hershe's.
Speaker 1: Kisses, which is also a school ass Valentine's Day camp,
Speaker 1: but I'll take that. At least her she's kissing January
Speaker 1: through January. The difference between the candy heart and like
Speaker 1: every other candy other than like the nechA wafers, which
Speaker 1: are basically candy hearts without writing on them.
Speaker 2: They're just stamped thin. Yeah, community for candy hearts.
Speaker 1: That the difference between those candies and everything else is
Speaker 1: further than like any any other product that I can
Speaker 1: think of, like any cereal, Like there's no cereal that's
Speaker 1: that far below all the other cereals that But this
Speaker 1: candy is just an abomination. I don't know, can you
Speaker 1: and can you do anything with them? Like am I
Speaker 1: missing someone?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Oh, actually, if you put them in a mortar and pestle,
Speaker 2: you can make a dust that right, Yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 2: like getting your enemies with.
Speaker 1: So like last last time I came with this strength
Speaker 1: of conviction was for candy canes, and oh god, people
Speaker 1: came through and we're like, I love candy canes. You
Speaker 1: need to shut the fuck up. You talk too much
Speaker 1: about you know where you live, and I'm coming for
Speaker 1: you mother.
Speaker 2: Ye hey, Chalkhart gang, what do you how do you
Speaker 2: make them taste good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because like the candy cane people at least came
Speaker 1: and were like, hey, try try pluging one of those
Speaker 1: into an orange and using it as a straw, because
Speaker 1: the like acid will hollow out the inside of the
Speaker 1: candy cane and you'll be able to like drink orange
Speaker 1: juice through it, and the orange juice will be like
Speaker 1: even sweeter. No, but no, first of all, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me just but can I have a candy heart option? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I have a theory because California
Speaker 4: and New York are one of the most expensive places,
Speaker 4: and candy hearts are not that expensive. So probably because
Speaker 4: they're so cheap, that's why people like them, because we
Speaker 4: only have money for candy hearts, but also because we're depressed.
Speaker 4: A lot of us in these areas are depressed because
Speaker 4: we have no monies, and so you like to eat
Speaker 4: candy hearts to kind of soft depression.
Speaker 1: Deliver dopamine and little nice messages to us yeaheah, to say, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: keep your keep your chin up, save a little bit more,
Speaker 1: and you may be able to go in on a
Speaker 1: condo with three other people. Maybe, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2: I think I think we just need some new I
Speaker 2: feel like Valentine's a just just feels tired, you know what.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't. I don't know why this
Speaker 2: one just doesn't hit the same anymore. And I feel
Speaker 2: like we could do something different that isn't just like
Speaker 2: here are your roses and other shit and it just
Speaker 2: feels so like obviously you know, it's just steep and
Speaker 2: patriarchy too.
Speaker 1: It's like what are you getting a lady man? Lady? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like what can what can we do?
Speaker 2: Like I like just being like this it's memory day,
Speaker 2: create a memory that will actually last longer than that
Speaker 2: janky ass box of Russell Stover's chocolate, Like why hasn't.
Speaker 1: Sweetheart come through? And maybe they have, but like I
Speaker 1: the message like candy stamped with message good idea, like
Speaker 1: you know, but so many other candies could could have
Speaker 1: messages on them that don't taste like straight up aspirin
Speaker 1: with a light dusting of sugar, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah these well, no, there are sweethearts they have.
Speaker 2: They're called conversation hearts yea, and it just says cutie,
Speaker 2: hug me, I, hurt you XO XO and love it.
Speaker 1: Yes? How have they not caught on more? Maybe because
Speaker 1: of the sick freaks we're about to hear from from Zeitgang,
Speaker 1: who are like, no, I actually like the absence of
Speaker 1: anything other than dry sweet.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like you know the ship that
Speaker 2: when you don't put a cap on a toothpaste and
Speaker 2: some of them gets hard around.
Speaker 4: Oh god, that is the worst.
Speaker 1: It's or it's the best. I actually just like take
Speaker 1: them like pills and then feel them just dissolve in
Speaker 1: my chest.
Speaker 4: The same people who like to brush their teeth in
Speaker 4: dray caple or orange juice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, No, no, no, all right, I do
Speaker 1: want to get to this mixed reality headset. We're gonna
Speaker 1: run a little bit over because we have doctor John
Speaker 1: Paul Higgins with us, one of the early adopters of
Speaker 1: the Apple Vision plus pro pro jack pro.
Speaker 2: I always want to call it plus because they did
Speaker 2: everything they did was proper. Well, it used to be
Speaker 2: everything they did was pro yeah, and then they started
Speaker 2: doing everything plus yeah.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, Well, so Stanford is digging in. I
Speaker 1: don't think these studies were conducted on the Apple products,
Speaker 1: so surely it were. But overnight, you know, we're seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of people using these in different scenarios, and
Speaker 1: even if the first ones are like viral stunts that
Speaker 1: will mean that somebody else is going to do them
Speaker 1: think that those were real videos. So the complaints concerns
Speaker 1: that the Stanford scientists had after testing what they're calling
Speaker 1: camera passed through products, which is, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: the main technology here where you've got a headset on,
Speaker 1: you're using a camera to replace your vision. They're saying,
Speaker 1: you know, this could be a wave of the future
Speaker 1: for sure, but despite the initial thrill, they quickly encounter drawbacks,
Speaker 1: including visual distortions, feelings of social disconnection, and motion sickness.
Speaker 1: I feel like Apple's not going to put a product
Speaker 1: out there that's going to give you motion sickness. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's probably something that this product has cut
Speaker 1: down on. Yeah. Yeah, did you experience any like kind
Speaker 1: of queasiness or feeling of like weird disconnect with your
Speaker 1: surround human.
Speaker 4: No, So the visual distortion possibly, like I said, because
Speaker 4: you're again you are watching a video of your surroundings,
Speaker 4: so it's like it literally is like having a video
Speaker 4: camera in front of your your face. But what I
Speaker 4: will say about the social disconnection I had, I can
Speaker 4: easily see like when I took mine off, even when
Speaker 4: I was in the store doing the demo, because when
Speaker 4: I purchased mine on Friday, they were basically saying, hey,
Speaker 4: it recommended you do a demo before you purchase. Because
Speaker 4: I was one of those girls, was like, I just
Speaker 4: want it, and they were like, no, do a demo.
Speaker 4: Make sure that you like it, make sure that it
Speaker 4: fits your face. Yeah. I was like, okay, bet So
Speaker 4: I stayed there for the extra thirty minutes, did the demo,
Speaker 4: took mine home, and when I took it off, I
Speaker 4: was thinking to myself, I could see people who are
Speaker 4: very much antisocial, who just really don't want to, who
Speaker 4: don't feel any reason or need to be connected to
Speaker 4: other people. I could see how someone would be disconnected
Speaker 4: and lose themselves in this, Like I could see it.
Speaker 2: Right yah, because it's offering you all these other experiences
Speaker 2: that are ways that are very vivid that yeah, just
Speaker 2: chilling at home or wherever you live, I obviously can't
Speaker 2: offer you, right Yeah.
Speaker 1: Users reported difficulties with simple tasks like giving high fives okay,
Speaker 1: that's a lot, or eating I do just like the
Speaker 1: idea of watching somebody with one of those on just
Speaker 1: whiffing on a high five. Although I'll say I whiff
Speaker 1: on high fives all the time without anything on my face.
Speaker 2: So that is true.
Speaker 1: And even though I'm like right here, Jack, right here,
Speaker 1: right here, and you're pointing with your other hand at
Speaker 1: your pone.
Speaker 2: Always ends up me grabbing your wrists and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, five, you did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the one thing that I feel like could
Speaker 1: just generally like, no matter how good the cameras get,
Speaker 1: how smooth the technology becomes, they say, there's like a
Speaker 1: even though what you're looking at is real, it has
Speaker 1: a video game like otherness to it. It does yeah,
Speaker 1: which feels Yeah, I don't know, it feels bad.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know, Man, video games are pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also that there's like some after effects from having
Speaker 1: it on, where the effect of like you know, like
Speaker 1: one of the one of the tests they run is
Speaker 1: where you're able to like point to where you point
Speaker 1: to your nose, and like sometimes people using these are
Speaker 1: not able to do that because their nose I think,
Speaker 1: I think it your nose is actually larger than you
Speaker 1: expect it to be when you have the pass through
Speaker 1: device on right right, and then some some of that
Speaker 1: takes a little while to wear off. So even if
Speaker 1: you're like wearing it for like three hours and then
Speaker 1: going out for a walk or a drive, you still
Speaker 1: have like some weird visual psychological distortions that linger on,
Speaker 1: which makes sense to me, like just like playing like
Speaker 1: video games or like being on a boat or skiing
Speaker 1: like those three things, like have like visual tracers that
Speaker 1: like you close your eyes after you're doing it, like
Speaker 1: seven hours later, can still like your brain is still
Speaker 1: fucking around. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I used to play Guitar Hero Heavy, Yeah, every
Speaker 2: time I close my eyes, I'll just see the little shits
Speaker 2: like still my brain still sees them. But I think
Speaker 2: you know this, I wonder if someone's gonna use the
Speaker 2: Apple Vision Pro defense for like a DUI when they're like,
Speaker 2: all right, do to do the field? Sobriety test, I
Speaker 2: need you to close your eyes, get on one leg,
Speaker 2: and touch your nose, and you just like completely fucking
Speaker 2: like ostifer. I know this sounds really fucking a wild dude,
Speaker 2: but I have vision proNT that's four hours. So you
Speaker 2: should read the study. Man, it's harder to find your
Speaker 2: nose is bigger in person than in the vision bro,
Speaker 2: So I read that.
Speaker 4: Now, why were you laid on this Where were you
Speaker 4: laid on this project? Well, the Apple Vision pro you know,
Speaker 4: he threw off my.
Speaker 2: I couldn't find it like a less sympathetic excuse, like, man,
Speaker 2: what are you.
Speaker 1: Talking to my hands as toute?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want me to do it? Yeah, and it
Speaker 4: So can I say this? I will say this on air.
Speaker 4: I have a hard I also am feeling like like, yay,
Speaker 4: I have one. But I also feel like I'm feeding
Speaker 4: into the elitism of the stamp things. So I kind
Speaker 4: of tried not to talk about it too much because
Speaker 4: people being like, who are you have thirty five? Well,
Speaker 4: actually it was four four. It was forty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: You have forty five hundred dollars to throw away, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't know you, or you could be terrible
Speaker 2: with your money, you know, Well no, but no, But
Speaker 2: easier to.
Speaker 1: Say that I'm actually terrible with my money. Yeah, but terrible.
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for it forever. And plus have that Apple
Speaker 4: cart so amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, doctor John Paul Higgins, It's been such a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you as always. Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff?
Speaker 4: Well, when I'm not standing in line at the Apple
Speaker 4: store for a drop. You can find me at Doctor
Speaker 4: John Paul everywhere. Also, you can find me every Tuesday
Speaker 4: at the Black Fat Fem podcast on iHeartMedia, iHeart Podcast
Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcast. And yeah, my website
Speaker 4: ww dot Doctor John Paul dot com.
Speaker 1: There you go. And is there a work of media
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: Yes, so there is a So I will say this,
Speaker 4: I am not an editor. I can edit. I actually
Speaker 4: think I'm quite good at it. But people who can
Speaker 4: sit and make edits for a very like for a
Speaker 4: long period of time of things, I find them to
Speaker 4: be the people that they're just they're just amazing. So
Speaker 4: there's this person on Twitter, Clay Garson, who has a
Speaker 4: says learned the alphabets with Nini Leaks and it is
Speaker 4: absolutely it's hilarious. Like for every single alphabet letter, there's
Speaker 4: something Niani Leaks has said, and I just I wish
Speaker 4: that she would come back to TV. I really like Leaks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what happened?
Speaker 2: I mean ever since didn't Greg pass away?
Speaker 1: Greg? Did?
Speaker 4: I think Greg passed away? Two years ago?
Speaker 2: Those two years that's how that's how behind I am
Speaker 2: with my Real Housewives of Atlanta New This way hold on,
Speaker 2: I think I just want to hear this video really quick.
Speaker 3: B is for big nose right C. It's for close
Speaker 3: your legs to Mary Man, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nani's got some good ones, got some good ones.
Speaker 1: Nini is just a gem.
Speaker 4: I love her. So where is your scooter?
Speaker 1: Hunna? Where is it? Miles? Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: What's working media you've been enjoyed?
Speaker 2: Find me on the AT based platforms at Miles of Gray,
Speaker 2: Find us on our basketball podcast, Miles and jackot Mad Boosties,
Speaker 2: find me on my ninety dance podcast Force And if
Speaker 2: you want to hear some what else, Well, here's some
Speaker 2: if you want to know. The tweet I like is
Speaker 2: from at prod by perfectly perfectly orchestrated quote tweeted this
Speaker 2: thing it said from this from Double XL magazine that
Speaker 2: said Little John is coming out with a Guided Meditation album.
Speaker 2: TMC reports the ten track project is reportedly scheduled to
Speaker 2: drop on February sixteenth, to which prod By Perfectly produced
Speaker 2: by perfectly quote tweeted, snap your fingers, take a breath,
Speaker 2: go ahead, release that stress. I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: what is a Little John Guided Meditation album gonna be like,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm willing to try it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try that amazing. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien the I was enjoying.
Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted a video of the truck or convoy megas
Speaker 1: fighting each other and at Bobby big Wheel replied, we
Speaker 1: put every guy in America who's been kicked out of
Speaker 1: a t ball game in one place. Anyway, I hope
Speaker 1: it works out.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Just with the rainy weather that's going on, Like, I
Speaker 2: wanted something cozy, something that makes you kind of feel that.
Speaker 1: He did you know that being out out of the
Speaker 1: rain is a.
Speaker 2: Good place to be, which objectively is true. You probably
Speaker 2: don't music to feel that. But there's this artist named
Speaker 2: Milt Buckner and he like plays like old school like
Speaker 2: Hammond organ, like from back, like from the like early
Speaker 2: twentieth century, and I just I like the sound of
Speaker 2: the Hammond organ, but done in a right way.
Speaker 1: It kind of gives you a little bit of ambiance
Speaker 1: that if you.
Speaker 2: Know, turn the lights low, it'll class the joint up
Speaker 2: and you'll feel like you're in a some kind of
Speaker 2: bar restaurant that people of color probably weren't allowed in,
Speaker 2: but now we are and it's our own home. But anyway,
Speaker 2: this track is called Turquoise and is by Milt Buckner,
Speaker 2: So check that out. Just some good old Hammond lounge
Speaker 2: music for you.
Speaker 1: Well right, we will link off to that in the
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