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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of Dear Daily's I Guys Day production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, February seventh,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: February seventh. It's National Girls and Women in Sports Day,

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Speaker 2: National Periodic Table Day, Shout out to Valence Electron, National

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Speaker 2: Fedicini Alfredo Day, okay, and National Send.

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Speaker 1: A Card to a Friend Day. You know, come friend, dae,

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Speaker 1: what Hallmarket's not enough for you? You're a week out

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Speaker 1: that you're just having to get ready to give us

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Speaker 1: your money. We want an appetizer of your money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: send a card to a friend.

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Speaker 2: I think it might be the whole the whole Federation

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Speaker 2: of card Maker. Excuse me together as I'm burping because

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how how just how transformative this day

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Speaker 2: is telling about it. It's an ancient tradition of scraps

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Speaker 2: of paper to communicate.

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Speaker 1: His leg at the end of the gist when he

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Speaker 1: feels so fucked up about what's what he's got or

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Speaker 1: yeah the jinks, Yeah, when he feels so fucked up

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Speaker 1: about what he's holding down that he starts burping constantly.

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Speaker 1: You're just so fucked up by national cards. Send a

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Speaker 1: friend of card dead all I can't. Oh man, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Just says while our digital era may turn away from

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Speaker 2: the flowery image language of greeting cards are surprising, eighty

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Speaker 2: percent of adult still purchase them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean like we.

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Speaker 2: Got to say thank you sometimes in a more formal

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Speaker 2: way that a text can't quite achieve.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I know that I just wish a four

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Speaker 1: year old a happy birthday every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, because you don't want to do that as much

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Speaker 2: as I used to be, Like, man, just pull a

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Speaker 2: piece of print or paper. D Yeah, my art skills

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Speaker 2: are not good enough where it looks I might as

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Speaker 2: well have just said fuck you on the present, you

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Speaker 2: know the way.

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Speaker 1: That is, that is an option. Good artists always have.

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Speaker 2: Strip fuck you, fuck you, but in like really cool,

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Speaker 2: lesson the beautiful, the beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka squaring up

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Speaker 1: on Sea me Street Heat, taking bets on these mohuppets,

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Speaker 1: got dragged on Twitter. Now he's back on his feet,

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Speaker 1: Just Elmo and his will to survive it's the bird

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Speaker 1: or the monster. It's an internet fight rising up to

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Speaker 1: a giant feathered rival. Will he go for the ankles

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Speaker 1: or will he use a knife? And we'll argued wing

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Speaker 1: over a bird or a monster. That is courtesy of

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Speaker 1: Warren the Wear Bear on the discord Little I Have

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Speaker 1: the Tiger. You know, this is this is our Rocky

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Speaker 1: three the Elmo the Big Bird. By the way, that

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Speaker 1: song was a late replacement for You're the Best around,

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Speaker 1: the Karate Kids song, the song at the end of

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Speaker 1: Karate Kid. That's just like an on the nose, like

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Speaker 1: you're the best win this fight? That one, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: song was. That song was in Rocky three, and then

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Speaker 1: they were like, man, this is a little on the nose.

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Speaker 1: And also I the Tiger came out and so they

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Speaker 1: just swapped that shit out. But now you are the

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Speaker 1: best round doesn't really make sense for Karate Kid because

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Speaker 1: it's like history repeats itself and it's like, what, wait,

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Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't karate Kid three. Fuck are you

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Speaker 1: talking about?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No, this is his first win at the All Valley

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Speaker 1: Karate Tournament.

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Speaker 2: I mean, good for them because they have like a

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Speaker 2: lot of like you know, there's like that one the

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Speaker 2: score to Rocky that's in the victory beat.

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Speaker 1: M hm, you know on No Way Out.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's like a lot of good there's some

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Speaker 2: good things came out of there. But to think that

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Speaker 2: they could have messed that up with you're the best.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it takes a lot to fuck up

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Speaker 1: a Rocky movie. Just look at the soundtrack from Rocky

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Speaker 1: for there are some songs in that motherfucker keepers Sylvester Stallone,

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Speaker 1: did you write and perform this song? Because this is

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Speaker 1: just like a power ballad. N I got rights quote

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Speaker 1: my friend Miles Gray and speaking of which I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, mister

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Speaker 1: Miles Gray. Okay, lumping up that fucking big, big yellow

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Speaker 1: bird gonna get wrecked. Elmo's a monster.

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Speaker 2: Leave you sleep in the street, just a beast with

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Speaker 2: the deep hidden rage.

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Speaker 1: It's the monster named Elmo. He's gonna be big bird dead.

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Speaker 2: Bert and Ernie benas it this one out. Elmo, the

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Speaker 2: last no survivors talking is praying the night.

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Speaker 1: Why the fuck do you think he is? Red? Elmo

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Speaker 1: is a monster.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to first Blood five two two, Look a

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Speaker 2: lot of people with the fucking the Tiger Elmo first

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Speaker 2: Big Bird theme.

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Speaker 1: We love this energy read four bro. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a monster. Damn that both of those are are

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Speaker 1: really good. Great job hot damn and great job to

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Speaker 1: you on the performance.

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Speaker 2: And to you too, and to you too obviously with

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Speaker 2: your spirit you received my mother's uh applot it's in person. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got to like, you're singing, it's just you.

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Speaker 1: Really, You've you've entered a new era with you. Not

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Speaker 1: expecting a compliment about my vocals, but you know.

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Speaker 2: You know, shout out to my mom. Big fan of

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: I know, unbelievable that both of our moms still sticking

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Speaker 1: with it even though they don't know what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about most of the time.

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Speaker 2: She done any thing too. She's like, well, it's nice

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Speaker 2: to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's nice to hear your voice every

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Speaker 1: once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't get that, but it's just like, well,

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Speaker 2: I like to hear your voice even and then she

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Speaker 2: it's always backhand. She's like, even though I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the fuck you're talking about most of the time, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: those are my So that's just how the kids speak.

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Speaker 1: Mom, Yeah, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in

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Speaker 1: our third seat. One of our favorites. A brilliant writer, speaker,

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Speaker 1: social justice educator. Written for Ebony Complex, Out the Root,

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Speaker 1: appeared on NBC News, BuzzFeed, Vox, among many others there.

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Speaker 1: They're also the host of the amazing podcast BFF Black

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Speaker 1: Fat Fem Please welcome back to the show, Doctor John

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Speaker 1: Paul here.

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Speaker 4: Hello, so hello, stomp it through the doors. Stomp it

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Speaker 4: through the doors. So you know what I was sitting

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Speaker 4: here listening one screaming at the Muppets reference. But did

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Speaker 4: you know that doesn't is it? Jean Claude von dom Or?

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Speaker 1: Who?

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Speaker 4: One of them have an album? One of them. It's

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Speaker 4: either Sylvester Stallone or Jean Claude, they have a whole album.

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Speaker 1: You're giving so much class to Jean Claude van Dams

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Speaker 1: that you're like, Jean Claude whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well one of them, somebody has.

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Speaker 1: It's ever sounded more classy than it did when you

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Speaker 1: just said it there. I would be shocked if well,

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Speaker 1: so Steven Sagal had. All three of them are the

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Speaker 1: same person to me.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I can't believe more of them did not

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Speaker 5: have novelty rap albums during the eighties, they were reaching

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Speaker 5: their peak at a time when novelty rap albums were

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Speaker 1: But I guess mister T jumped on that before they

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Speaker 1: could or novelty rap songs. Do you.

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Speaker 2: I just I feel like Schwarzenegger really should have had one.

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Speaker 2: He was so down for the goofiness. You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean that I feel like, like, yeah, I like

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Speaker 2: I like to rap. Now have you seen just speaking

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Speaker 2: of Siegal's music, there was one clip. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we ever I know I've shared it with people

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Speaker 2: like off the show, but there's a lyric of him

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Speaker 2: singing on stage where he says, if when you see

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Speaker 2: my little girlfriend, you're gonna wet yourself. This is.

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Speaker 1: Right, girlfriend, you go ahead to change the way out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, when you see my little girlfriend, have to

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Speaker 2: change your underwear. So that's the kind of lyrical stylings

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Speaker 2: we're getting from Russian poet Laureate steven.

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Speaker 1: Sigh my little girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Look, Look, there's there's nothing but dark clouds that swirl

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Speaker 2: around him.

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Speaker 1: Goddamn yeah, my little Girlfriend's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Make no co producer Justin just said he got a

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Speaker 2: reggae song where he says miwandani yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Wait for me to divert the conversation. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I am very much in the mind that he does

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Speaker 4: a Jamaican accent. That man, he was wild. The nineties

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Speaker 1: He never recovered, No, he never did. He never did,

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Speaker 1: just disappeared into Russia. Yeah, yeah, man, he can. He

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Speaker 1: can wind upon the da Bati in Russia.

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Speaker 4: What a moment.

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Speaker 1: Well, doctor John, We are going to get to know

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Speaker 1: you a little bit better in the moment. First, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. An appeals court busted down Trump's immunity claim,

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Speaker 1: before he's president. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: and deciding to kill it. We'll talk about Valentine's Day candies.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about mixed reality headsets, all that plenty more.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to any of it, doctor John Paul,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing

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Speaker 4: So speaking about virtual headsets. Yes, I was one of

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Speaker 4: the people who purchased on the very first day the

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Speaker 4: Apple Vision Pro. And yeah, I've just been googling a

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Speaker 4: lot to see what people are doing with it, to

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Speaker 4: see what people shouldn't be doing with it, i e.

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Speaker 4: People who are driving their Tesla's while having one on,

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Speaker 4: which I think is very silly. But yeah, I have

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Speaker 4: very I don't know, it's peaceful. It's just really peaceful.

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Speaker 2: don't know what you need it for, but I know

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Speaker 2: if like if I had one, I'd probably be watching

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Speaker 2: Are you using it to like actually like do your

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Speaker 2: minority report, like air computing and shit like that.

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Speaker 4: And so it's cool because I'm one of those people

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 4: I don't get it. They don't even have soda.

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Speaker 4: No, I think they only have tea and lemonade.

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Speaker 4: They do not have soda. My husband said that they

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Speaker 2: I was like, doctor John, you cannot operate in the

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Speaker 4: Fake, fake newses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or will come for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously what we learned with the chicken sandwich worse.

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Speaker 2: Oh some days I wasn't able.

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Speaker 1: There was always canes.

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Speaker 4: There is, Baby, it might.

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Speaker 2: it's in the air, it's in.

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Speaker 4: The yeah, I am that girl that will pre start.

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Speaker 4: I can prestart my car from an app and I

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Speaker 4: will start my car to get in it to go

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Speaker 4: down to the raisin canes. Honey.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Means also, I mean if you, oh yeah, you put

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Speaker 2: canes up against Chick fil A, and I'm sorry, Chick

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Speaker 2: fil A, you have to go all the way to

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Speaker 2: the back because.

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Speaker 4: The Chick fil A sauce it ain't it ain't. It's

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Speaker 4: not the cane sauce. What's that other chicken place? Zaxby's

449
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Speaker 4: is good too. When I go back to I always

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Speaker 4: like zaxby zax He's just really good.

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Speaker 1: What is something that you think is underrated me?

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Speaker 4: No, definitely, I'm here. I know you're supposed to plug it,

453
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Speaker 4: but yes, my podcast, I always tell people, if you

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Speaker 4: are not listening to Black fatfam you are doing yourself

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Speaker 4: a disservice. This week we have a whole takedown of

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Speaker 4: the Alabama Riverfront Brawl. I don't know if you know

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Speaker 4: or if you if any of you are familiar with it.

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Speaker 4: It is Black History Month. Please revisit that August two

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Speaker 4: thousand and twenty three where the chair so my co

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Speaker 4: host said that the chair is and will be likened

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Speaker 4: to the brick that was thrown at stone Wall. That

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Speaker 4: white chair is. That white chair will live in my heart. Baby,

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Speaker 4: the way that man grabbed that chair and it just

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Speaker 4: did work.

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Speaker 1: It just you can't.

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Speaker 4: You've got to get over there and listen. It is

467
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Speaker 4: one of the best moments of moments, and it's a

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Speaker 4: way to start your your black history mon by supporting

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Speaker 4: black fat fans.

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Speaker 2: Like hopefully you're saying the national anthem, Lift every chair.

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Speaker 4: That's actually the title of our episode. We lift every

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Speaker 4: chair and swing.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yes, yes, But then there's new Like,

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Speaker 2: so are you doing the update too, because I remember

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Speaker 2: some people got charges, other people didn't get charges.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we haven't done any updates.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, because I remember there was some breaking

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Speaker 2: stuff and oh it's like, oh, guess who didn't get

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Speaker 2: charged and guess a lot of Yeah. Yeah, but anyway,

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Speaker 2: lift every chair and swing. Check that episode out for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's take a quick break and we

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Speaker 1: will be right back. And we're back.

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Speaker 2: We're back.

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Speaker 1: And recently I had heard the Trump's claimed that he

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Speaker 1: was like a to do crimes, was like holding up

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Speaker 1: his case in DC for like the one based on

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Speaker 1: around January sixth. Yep, yep, there is news that a

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Speaker 1: federal appeals court just rejected his claim that he has

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Speaker 1: immune from criminal charges for acts that he said fell

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Speaker 1: within his duties as president and therefore can't be tried

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Speaker 1: for plotting to overturn the twenty twenty election. A three

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Speaker 1: judge panel stated unanimously that the fuck out of here, essentially,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Knew when when they first went to that court hearing

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Speaker 2: and they were like, so, I'm sorry, So so you

496
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Speaker 2: could just like murder a political opponent and yeah, and

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Speaker 2: it's all good. Yeah, Like what you're arguing is you

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Speaker 2: can do assassinations?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that's not what I'm saying specifically here,

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Speaker 2: but I guess I would fall under it if I

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Speaker 2: if if my client did have total immunity. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a moment of progress. Like we said, I

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Speaker 2: think last week when we're checking it, with the pace

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Speaker 2: of these cases, I don't think there's any reason to

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Speaker 2: think we're going to see anything happen by election day.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that this happened does make it we

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Speaker 2: can get to the answer sooner, which is will the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court step in to help Donald Trump out, and

510
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Speaker 2: we don't know quite yet. I mean, they could just

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Speaker 2: outright be like, no, you know, sounds like it's been decided.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to we don't need to hear this,

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Speaker 2: and then really put him out there, or the drama

514
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Speaker 2: will continue and they'll be like, well, you know, three

515
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Speaker 2: of us did get this job because of him, so

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Speaker 2: I mean, like maybe we can, you know, hear what

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Speaker 2: he has to say. But that's what's interesting about this

518
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Speaker 2: decision is that in this court ruling, they were using

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Speaker 2: the words of the conservative justices to sort of like

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Speaker 2: underline their point, to be like, this is why there's

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Speaker 2: no such thing as immunity. So, I mean, and then

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Speaker 2: most universes you would be like, well, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: they use their own words against the people that may

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Speaker 2: ultimately overturn it, that must be compelling for them to

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Speaker 2: just sort of maintain what is happening here.

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Speaker 1: But not this one, not these, not these ones, so the.

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Speaker 2: Next one.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they were. They pointed out that ruling in

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Speaker 1: his face in Trump's favor would neutralize the most fundamental

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Speaker 1: check on executive power, the recognition and implementation of election results,

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Speaker 1: which seems pretty fair. Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean but I guess that's the

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Speaker 2: thing is like if the Supreme Court did rule that

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Speaker 2: he could, then does then Joe Byron be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: got you right?

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Speaker 1: Watch if is that how we're playing?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm here now already and Trump is a citizen.

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Speaker 2: But unless he goes like, I am retroactively the president.

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Speaker 2: So therefore I'm I'm I'm living here now. Give he's

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Speaker 2: a squatting. I don't know what about.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court. Have they ruled on whether he's allowed

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Speaker 1: on the ballot, like the Colorado and whatever that other

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Speaker 1: state was Maine? Was it that ruled that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: allowed on the bat.

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Speaker 2: There were like three of them, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or I don't think they have yet, Okay yeah.

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Speaker 1: They also pointed out that this position also contradicts Trump's

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Speaker 1: previous defense and his twenty twenty one impeachment trial, which

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Speaker 1: I had totally forgotten about. I guess there is an

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Speaker 1: impeachment trial for Trump in twenty twenty one after he

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Speaker 1: was out of office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like the one right after people were like,

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Speaker 2: wasn't that bad? On January sixth?

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Speaker 1: It's crazy that I totally forgot an impeachment trial.

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Speaker 4: It was like a whole month.

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Speaker 2: It's a sophomore jinx.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The second album just doesn't hit as hard as the

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Speaker 2: first time a lot of the time.

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Speaker 1: But his lawyer argued at that time that the Senate

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Speaker 1: should have quit him because the Justice Department should decide

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Speaker 1: if Trump engaged an insurrection over the January sixth Capitol

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Speaker 1: and they have yeah, and so this is the Justice Department,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, what's this shit, No way, You're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that. Well, so I don't know, it

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Speaker 1: still might not affect whether he gets elected, and we

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Speaker 1: might not you know, if he does get elected, we

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Speaker 1: might not see this case, you know, go through.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because what does it like if he does

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Speaker 4: get elected, not putting that out in the universe. If

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Speaker 4: he does get elected, basically all the stuff will go away, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, he would just basically tell the DOJ, like,

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Speaker 2: He'll just lean on them to be like.

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Speaker 1: Drop all these cases.

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Speaker 4: The cases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, goodbye that one and that one, and double those

577
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Speaker 2: cases against Biden.

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Speaker 4: Ninety of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's ninety one counts, Okay, it's counts, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Just spread out over.

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Speaker 1: Like if he gets elected, Biden's probably going to jail, right,

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Speaker 1: That's like crazy to think, but almost definitely that's what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. So, you know, Biden's got a lot

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Speaker 1: going on too. People are always like Trump's fighting for

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Speaker 1: his life. Well guess what, Yeah, so are we all

586
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Speaker 1: so fucking everybody?

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Speaker 2: And He's doing his best to be like how can

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Speaker 2: I break up the coalition of voters that I had

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Speaker 2: to get into office and still win?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, all right border bill, yeah phrase, I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: a lot these days.

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Speaker 2: Well I think, yeah, it's just another example of kind

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Speaker 2: of like what the Republicans are trying to do to

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Speaker 2: help Donald Trump win at all costs. So like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, for the last forever, for fucking ever, they're

596
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Speaker 2: like the boder got these open borders, it's fucking war.

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Speaker 1: There's an invasion, there's the you.

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Speaker 2: Know what do they say, like the caravans they're all coming.

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Speaker 2: This is like the rhetoric that they always use constantly

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Speaker 2: to talk about like this border crisis. And so there

601
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Speaker 2: was like a bipartisan bill that was put together in

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Speaker 2: the Senate that like combined like aid packages sixty billion

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Speaker 2: for Ukraine fourteen billion for Israel and twenty billion for

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Speaker 2: the border.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, where can we get some of these this money?

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Speaker 1: Can the roads?

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Speaker 4: I said that, I said, they're not. You know, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was very much in the mind when when the

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Speaker 4: student loans kicked back up in October. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm finally in a place as an adult where i

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Speaker 4: can afford to pay my loans back. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go ahead and do it. And then I saw this

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Speaker 4: last night before I went to bed, and I said,

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Speaker 4: they're not getting one red synonymy I'm not paying none

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Speaker 4: of my student loans back, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's tough. And I think when you

617
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Speaker 2: see this amount of capital just flying towards arms, you're like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it makes it pretty clear, like

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Speaker 2: what our priorities here.

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Speaker 1: It's called child poverty in the US doubled last year, right,

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Speaker 1: this is what respect what you need?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, exactly. And so anyway, they put

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Speaker 2: all of this stuff together. That way they the aid

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Speaker 2: that needed to go to Ukraine and Israel was packaged,

625
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Speaker 2: and also that they could quote unquote solve this border crisis.

626
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Speaker 2: And I mean the optics were heavily in favor of

627
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Speaker 2: the Republicans more and so in the sense that like

628
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is like, I mean, what am I going

629
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Speaker 2: to be like more lenient. I mean, he's pretty conservative

630
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Speaker 2: already when it comes to his immigration policies, but they

631
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Speaker 2: dragged him further to the right in this bill, Like

632
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Speaker 2: this is like money for more to ten, more fucking

633
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Speaker 2: boots on the ground, more border patrol funding, no fucking

634
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Speaker 2: viable pathway to citizenship, Like it was basically the republic

635
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Speaker 2: like the ubms got what the fuck they wanted, like

636
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Speaker 2: truly and so, and a lot of people were like, damn,

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Speaker 2: I guess Biden is willing to do that just to

638
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Speaker 2: sort of like end this argument, even though many people

639
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Speaker 2: were like, that's not gonna help with people that are

640
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Speaker 2: like more of your mainstream Democrats and more progressives and

641
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: people further to the left are like, this is backwards.

642
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: So anyway, the bill.

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Speaker 1: Was there appeaser, not exactly greater negotiated with a great appeaser.

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Speaker 2: He's just exactly an appeasement has such a storied history

645
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Speaker 2: of being successful reasonable characters every time.

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Speaker 1: Every time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's also like a recent thing in the

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Speaker 2: Guardian that talked about how when uh, you know, like

649
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Speaker 2: liberal governments or you know, like begin to adopt more

650
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Speaker 2: conservative policies to try and win votes, it never fucking works.

651
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Speaker 1: You just put off the fucking.

652
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Speaker 2: People that wanted you there in the first place, Like

653
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Speaker 2: what the fuck are these idiot's doing, Like you're not

654
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Speaker 2: going to impress these right wing people by doing that.

655
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Speaker 2: So anyway, Donald Trump does not want the border anything solved,

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Speaker 2: so he basically told his little lackeys on the hill

657
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Speaker 2: to say kill the bill. It's not it can't get

658
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: past because he needs total fucking chaos at the border.

659
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: And you know, this bill was negotiated by Senator James

660
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: Langford from Oklahoma, who's not even close to being some

661
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: kind of moderate. So like it's it's wild to see

662
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: what's not wild? This is just what happens like when

663
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: you have Donald Trump really running it, and it just

664
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: makes them look even more ignorant, power hungry, nativist when

665
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: they want to do all this stuff of being like

666
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: it's like it's a war for the soul of our

667
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: nation at the border. But then you get a bill

668
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: to solve it with all the shit that you want,

669
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: and then you're like it's dead on arrival. Yeah, with

670
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: no explanation, really no explanation. I mean, there was even

671
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: this woman who went to the border in Texas because

672
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: she was so hopped up up on fucking maga nativist

673
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: propaganda that she was like, I wanted to see this

674
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: for myself, to see what happened. She was even like, huh.

675
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 6: I've been talking to these folks who have come from

676
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 6: all over Texas even other parts of the country to

677
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 6: be here, and some of them, even though we are

678
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 6: about a half hour from Eagle Pass, have driven down

679
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 6: to Eagle Pass to try to actually see what's happening

680
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 6: at the border. And I spoke to a number of

681
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 6: people who said that they're a little surprised by what

682
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 6: they're seeing here. I want to play a conversation with

683
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 6: a woman, Misty, take a listen.

684
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: It was. It's pretty surreal.

685
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: We actually made it into Eagle Pass and we went and.

686
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Saw Shelby Park. I was able to.

687
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: See some people actually trying to cross and stopped at

688
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: the wire there. So it was it's very eye opening.

689
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: So and tell me more about eye opening. Is it

690
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: what you expected, is it better?

691
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: Is it worse?

692
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: It's not what I expected. But then again, I don't

693
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: know what I expected. I can tell you it's not

694
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: as bad as what I thought.

695
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: Huh.

696
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: They Oh, there's a lot of people. I mean, the

697
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: general vibe down there, and this is based only on

698
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: anecdotal eyewitness videos, but people seem to be like turning

699
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: on each other a little bit, Like everybody got down

700
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: there in the caravan and they're like, there's nothing to

701
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: do here, but so they're like getting mad at each other,

702
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: like you're not Christian enough for yeah.

703
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Or there's people just grifting, like they're like just people

704
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: who like do live streams and they're.

705
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 1: Like these people don't care about America. They're like, no shit. Yeah.

706
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a certain amount of people who are

707
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: absolutely falling for it and believe that is the situation.

708
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are like, now, you know

709
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: how you can get a lot of views just go

710
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: down there and scream racist shit into the air. But yeah,

711
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just I think it's important

712
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 2: people to understand, like anything we have in politics, when

713
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: politicians have a chance to fucking solve and a problem

714
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: and they don't, that's by design. It's because they would

715
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: rather have that be an issue they can continue to

716
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: screen about and fear monger over, and also helps people

717
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: understand or makes people think that, like, these issues aren't

718
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: necessarily solvable in a way that isn't rife with chaos.

719
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: So for Republicans, they don't want to solve immigration because

720
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: then you can be like, oh, there's a way to

721
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: do this like piecemeal maybe and make this thing work,

722
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: And so they don't. They absolutely want to avoid that.

723
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: It's either you know, it's like an all or nothing

724
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: situation for them, or even like the Democrats.

725
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: Are like, we're going to caudify Row.

726
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: Maybe Yeah, it's just it's more, it's just it's easier

727
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: to have those kinds of issues that are motivators for

728
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: people rather than actually, you know, solving it.

729
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: It reminds me of there's this historian, American historian who

730
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: moved his family out of the US right when Mitch

731
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: McConnell did the like obstructionist thing where he like wouldn't

732
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: let Obama are Yeah, the Americ Carlen thing through. I

733
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: think that was it. It might have been something even

734
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: like before that, but he and he or I think

735
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: his wife was like wrote a column for The New

736
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: York You're talking about like returning it or like viewing

737
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: America falling apart from another country, and like how just

738
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: wait when you really like zoom out from that philosophy

739
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: of just being obstructionist and not being willing to do

740
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: the opposite of your job right and instead of government

741
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: and make people's lives better, try and sow chaos and

742
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: create worse conditions so that your party can do better.

743
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: Like from that very initial like appearance of that philosophy,

744
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: they were like, this is going in a fascist direction,

745
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: which I think even to me at the time, I

746
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: was like, wow, they're really like ahead of the like

747
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: over their skis a little bit like, but they I

748
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: think that they were like, as this is spread, it

749
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: has become increasingly Yeah, they just want to watch the

750
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: world burn because watching the world burn it gives them

751
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: an opportunity to grab more power. And I think that's

752
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: also like I feel like I'm seeing that philosophy on

753
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: the side of like capitalism too, because now you know,

754
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: disaster capitalism is such a thing that people are, you know,

755
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: view wors More's conditions as moneypnities.

756
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think he had always has,

757
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: but I think it's at the time people were like, Wow,

758
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: the Republicans are being petty. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and and

759
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: maybe that's how the analogy to get.

760
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Archie McConnell out of there. Yeah.

761
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 2: But when it's like, when it's something like that, that's

762
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: what turns into full blown Yeah all right, round them up. Yeah,

763
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't like it no more. Yeah, exactly, let me

764
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: show you.

765
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we're all on line that we shouldn't be on anyway.

766
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

767
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: Well, we're continuing to say who can they can't be here.

768
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 4: That's got to love America.

769
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And some of it's so much of the the

770
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: hysteria around the border is like, you know, just wrapped

771
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: in this like great replacement theory nonsense. They're like they

772
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: just want these people to come in because those are

773
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Joe Byron voters, right, And you're like, that's not how

774
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: any of it works. But just yeah, yeah, well, let's.

775
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Take a quick break and come back and talk about

776
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day candy. Yeah, and the Apple Vision Pro Plus

777
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: is it Apple Vision Pro? Is that right?

778
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 4: It's the Apple Vision pro all right.

779
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I gotta get that. I gotta get that into my

780
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: brain because it is our new hardware or the name

781
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: that's the problem. This has made me very aware that

782
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: like we just need the contact ones. That's that's when

783
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. It's when we can just be

784
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: wearing it without people realizing. Can you imagine how bulky

785
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: that first one is going to be? The contact lines? Yeah,

786
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: your eye keeps drifting down.

787
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look like those people that have that like

788
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: condition where they can pop their eyes out, who see

789
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: like viral hits in the nineties, like hey, lady, make

790
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: your eyes pop out? How these prices?

791
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they stayed working though.

792
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's like these two there's like a black

793
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: woman and a black guy I remember who like had

794
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: the ipop eyebug out market cornered.

795
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was always impressed. Those are huge celebrities in

796
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: my book. All right, let's take a quick break and

797
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: we'll be right back, and we're back. I feel like

798
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: the local version of that is the people who could

799
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: squirt milk out of their eyes. You ever know somebody

800
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: who could squ squirt milk out of their eyes?

801
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I've seen that, but yeah, I've I

802
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: knew I didn't know someone, you knew someone personally they

803
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: could do that.

804
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: I think I knew someone personally. Maybe I'm just like confusing, real,

805
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: it's so gross.

806
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like how do you figure that out?

807
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

808
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: Like someone like in your your family's like you know,

809
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: they come from a long line of milk party trickers

810
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: that can milk come out of our tear ducts.

811
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: That was a survival. That was how you serve.

812
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: That would be to be like, oh, would you like

813
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: some cream with your coffee?

814
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, once I know your Royal highness, your.

815
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: Royal highness royal all right, it is that time of

816
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: year once again for us too.

817
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: You got one yeah, one week left folks till it's

818
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: time to just load them up with candy and cards

819
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: and love and devotion through consumerism.

820
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You got to How will you know your

821
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: partner loves you unless they buy you a rose made

822
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: of chocolates?

823
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: Those heart shaped candy chalk?

824
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sweet?

825
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's this. You know, every year there's a

826
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: list most popular candy for me. Sorry, I just I'm

827
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: so over, I'm so angry at the heart shaped chalk.

828
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: I just I'm really the reason I even want to

829
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: talk about this. So this the list comes out most

830
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: popular candy Valentine's Candy by state, California, Alaska, New York,

831
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: but a few many places chocolate like those sweethearts chalk

832
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: heart things are like fucking number one, although they're surprisingly

833
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: a very high number of chocolates, which I think are

834
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: more appropriate than that.

835
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole nation is a sea of chocolate except

836
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: for fucking New York in California and Alaska, like fucking okay,

837
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: you want to call them flyover country. At least they're

838
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: not eating fucking chalk hearts.

839
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: But like, it's just so this has me thinking right

840
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: like about even Valentine's Day and if candies are even

841
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: like the metric we should even be looking at because

842
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: that feels like the like if you have put no

843
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: thought into it, you're just like, here's the here's some chocolates.

844
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: I got the pharmacy at the last minute.

845
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Yea, And I feel like the ultimate last minute, like

846
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: what what is open in between me and their house?

847
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: And I'm only three blocks away from their house.

848
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: Right and and they're out of old spaghetti factory gift cards,

849
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know what. I don't know what to

850
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: get you, but like I feel like I don't know

851
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: when I in like the early days of a relationship

852
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: and Valentine's Day came around, like you're like, okay, like

853
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, I've been lonely for a little bit. Now

854
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: I got Now, I got a little booth thing. I

855
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: want to do something for Valentine's Day. But like, as

856
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: like even my own like relationship turned marriage now has progressed.

857
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: We found other. Is that like we show each other,

858
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: like our appreciation for each other, that isn't so tied

859
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: to Valentine's Day. So I'm just even wondering, are for

860
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: the both of you who are happily bowed up our

861
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: our candies essential to this holiday? And b is this

862
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: holiday even essential to our relationship?

863
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: Our relationship, Uh, my wife and my relationship fully built

864
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: on a bedrock of chalk hearts. That's only way we communicate.

865
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: I just passed her, she passed, how's your youngest son

866
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: chalkhart doing? I know you named your kids? Even after that?

867
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: No, we yeah, we used to go like even pretty

868
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: deep into our relationship. We would go out to dinner

869
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, you know, try and go to write

870
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: a good restaurant, get reservations well in advance, and we

871
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: quickly noticed that you are getting a suboptimal experience at

872
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: that restaurant, Like you're getting the worst version of that restaurant, right,

873
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: They're slammed. They've got like the Sometimes they'll do like

874
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: a prefixed menu, Like I've gone to restaurants that we

875
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: loved and they've been terrible on Valentine's Day. And I've

876
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: gone to restaurants that we never went to again that

877
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: other people love, you know, that recommended, and they're you know,

878
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: just bad. It's a bad situations. So we generally don't

879
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: do that much. Sometimes we'll do like a I try

880
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: and like think outside of the box. Like recently, I

881
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna do a picnic and I'm put

882
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: together a picnic and it was fucking freezing cold and

883
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: windy as hell because it is February, even in LA Like, yeah,

884
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: you can't.

885
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: February, what about you, doctor John?

886
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I concur you know, the first few year,

887
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, I have to make sure that

888
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: I make the best impression on Valentine's Day for my partner.

889
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 4: So I always try to do something the day leading

890
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: up to Valentine's Day. So we're doing we're celebrating our

891
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day on Sunday, and I like to. For me,

892
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 4: it's like about making memories versus just giving my partner stuff.

893
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: We are in a place now where we live in

894
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: a two two bathroom, and I'm looking around and I'm going,

895
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: we have no more room for stuff, so I'm not

896
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: going to buy you anything else to continue to that.

897
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: We have to figure out where we're gonna put it

898
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: or where what are we gonna do with it?

899
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: So I like you are looking around when you're making

900
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: that decision, You're looking around through your Apple vision pro.

901
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 4: Yes. Yes, and I'm going.

902
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: More stuff.

903
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 4: Right right, right right, so as I as I shove

904
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: it into my overly packed closet. But no, I will say,

905
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing is about making memory. So there,

906
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: I did plan something on Sunday for my partner, and

907
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: we're going to do all of our stuff on Sunday.

908
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, I and and then it's just about for me.

909
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 4: It's tradition. I do sees for him every year. He knows.

910
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: It's just kind of something. I do it for Valentine's Day,

911
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 4: for Christmas.

912
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: He gets.

913
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: He gets seese, but it's mostly because I want to

914
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: eat them. So yes, I buy candy. So I can

915
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: eat them.

916
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: And I will also say my wife grew up like

917
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: not having much sugar in her diet, like she you know,

918
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: koreated her parents, like the dessert was fruit. She just

919
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: like doesn't really fuck with candy, So any candy that

920
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: comes in the household is eaten by me.

921
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh she still has maintained the like doesn't necessary. Yeah,

922
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: she doesn't show because I had the same thing, like

923
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: no soda, Like if I had juice, moms, like you

924
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: want to juice this orange ra fuck?

925
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: But then I go to my friend's houses.

926
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: We had like the fucking spare fridge in the garage,

927
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I will drink a twelve pack of

928
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: cactus cooler fucking right now, you know.

929
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the fread like had the cooler in the

930
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: garage or the fridge in the garage, those garage fridges.

931
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: I never had it, but like just a soda fridge,

932
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: just a soda fridge, like yo, were you? Yeah?

933
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: That was always like how the fuck do you so?

934
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: Where where do y'all get all this soda?

935
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: Like how many six?

936
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: And they're like we go to Smart and Final or whatever.

937
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is that? And they're like

938
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: this is where you can buy fucking boxes.

939
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: With this ship.

940
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: Costco High school who had parents that went to Costco

941
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: and would load up the refrigerator and it was always

942
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 4: like for me, it was like in our house because

943
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: we were so poor, it was like you got one

944
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: soda dinner and that was it and if you wanted

945
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 4: another one, drinks the water. Whereas like over their house,

946
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: it was like, you want another soda right after you're

947
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 4: finishing your soda.

948
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 7: You're like, what, yeah, soda, Dad is so yeah.

949
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

950
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, like I get I

951
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: think that.

952
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: Yet we have so many of these holidays that are

953
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: built around consuming and like and they're like, well, you

954
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: have to consume to show your love of Christ and

955
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: family for the holidays like Christmas or whatever, and you

956
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: can consume show it. Yeah, so you're consumed to show

957
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: your love of your partner by buying pink ship at

958
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: the store. But I mean, like, yeah, I think to

959
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: your point, memories are so much like those are longer lasting.

960
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: I feel like if anything, I'm probably like, let's go

961
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: bowling or some shit.

962
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I are going bowling tonight. You are, Yeah, dude,

963
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I ate baby, I've been bowling more.

964
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: It's weird, I think ever since we were talking about

965
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: how like bowling used to be like the sort of

966
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: cornerstone of like Americans, like social socializing. I'm like trying

967
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: to get people to bowl again, and I'm fucking terrible.

968
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: Is that gang, yo? If you know how to bowl, well,

969
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: please hit me up. I have no control, no control,

970
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: and I don't want to use the bumpers, and it's

971
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: it fucks with me that I'm like, how can I

972
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: not roll balls straight down lane? Yeah? They're so strong,

973
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: arms straight. Every time I try and curve it, I

974
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: just gutter ball that ship. But I love it. I

975
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: love the one thing.

976
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: Also a request for that gang. Are you a fan

977
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: of the Chalky Candy Hearts? Like? Is do you exist?

978
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Because like, I can't fathom eating one of those on purpose.

979
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: I guess I ate one when I was a child.

980
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: That was a mistake I didn't make again, Like, right,

981
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: do you intentionally eat those? Yeah?

982
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: It's like who eats peeps?

983
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: People?

984
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: They come back around every year around March and it's like,

985
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: why are you still here.

986
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: In a pinch as a sugar addict? I have eaten peeps.

987
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: I cannot bring myself to the chalky, like.

988
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Oh wow, even in that, even in your time of

989
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: greatest need, You're like, I have standards.

990
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: I am addicted to sugar, and I will not fuck

991
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: with these, like there's something I don't I must be missing,

992
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: or like, oh maybe it's just something that like other

993
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: people kind of fuck with them.

994
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: You raise a point in your notes about like why

995
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: is it so big and California because Californians are so

996
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: fucking I don't know. In LA, people would be like

997
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: scoff at you to be like you did what for

998
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: how much? Valentine's Day kind of shit where I feel

999
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: like my but every fucking year in school it was

1000
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: like the thing everyone just fucking brought.

1001
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it's how many like kid kids are in

1002
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: the like in your state. I don't thinking do kids

1003
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: love them or are they just convenient for school?

1004
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying if Texas is you know one of

1005
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: you know, like so much, book policy is determined by

1006
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: them because the share volume of books that are bought.

1007
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: But they got their their candy is Hershe's.

1008
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Kisses, which is also a school ass Valentine's Day camp,

1009
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: but I'll take that. At least her she's kissing January

1010
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: through January. The difference between the candy heart and like

1011
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: every other candy other than like the nechA wafers, which

1012
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: are basically candy hearts without writing on them.

1013
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 2: They're just stamped thin. Yeah, community for candy hearts.

1014
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: That the difference between those candies and everything else is

1015
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: further than like any any other product that I can

1016
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: think of, like any cereal, Like there's no cereal that's

1017
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: that far below all the other cereals that But this

1018
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: candy is just an abomination. I don't know, can you

1019
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: and can you do anything with them? Like am I

1020
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: missing someone?

1021
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: Like?

1022
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh, actually, if you put them in a mortar and pestle,

1023
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: you can make a dust that right, Yeah, yeah, just

1024
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: like getting your enemies with.

1025
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: So like last last time I came with this strength

1026
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: of conviction was for candy canes, and oh god, people

1027
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: came through and we're like, I love candy canes. You

1028
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: need to shut the fuck up. You talk too much

1029
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: about you know where you live, and I'm coming for

1030
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: you mother.

1031
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 2: Ye hey, Chalkhart gang, what do you how do you

1032
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: make them taste good?

1033
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because like the candy cane people at least came

1034
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: and were like, hey, try try pluging one of those

1035
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: into an orange and using it as a straw, because

1036
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: the like acid will hollow out the inside of the

1037
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: candy cane and you'll be able to like drink orange

1038
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: juice through it, and the orange juice will be like

1039
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: even sweeter. No, but no, first of all, no, no,

1040
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: let me just but can I have a candy heart option? Yeah?

1041
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I have a theory because California

1042
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 4: and New York are one of the most expensive places,

1043
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: and candy hearts are not that expensive. So probably because

1044
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: they're so cheap, that's why people like them, because we

1045
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: only have money for candy hearts, but also because we're depressed.

1046
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 4: A lot of us in these areas are depressed because

1047
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 4: we have no monies, and so you like to eat

1048
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 4: candy hearts to kind of soft depression.

1049
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: Deliver dopamine and little nice messages to us yeaheah, to say, hey, hey,

1050
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: keep your keep your chin up, save a little bit more,

1051
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: and you may be able to go in on a

1052
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: condo with three other people. Maybe, yeah, maybe.

1053
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: I think I think we just need some new I

1054
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: feel like Valentine's a just just feels tired, you know what.

1055
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't. I don't know why this

1056
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: one just doesn't hit the same anymore. And I feel

1057
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: like we could do something different that isn't just like

1058
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: here are your roses and other shit and it just

1059
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: feels so like obviously you know, it's just steep and

1060
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: patriarchy too.

1061
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: It's like what are you getting a lady man? Lady? Yeah?

1062
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: Like what can what can we do?

1063
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Like I like just being like this it's memory day,

1064
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: create a memory that will actually last longer than that

1065
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: janky ass box of Russell Stover's chocolate, Like why hasn't.

1066
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Sweetheart come through? And maybe they have, but like I

1067
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: the message like candy stamped with message good idea, like

1068
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: you know, but so many other candies could could have

1069
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: messages on them that don't taste like straight up aspirin

1070
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: with a light dusting of sugar, you know.

1071
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah these well, no, there are sweethearts they have.

1072
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: They're called conversation hearts yea, and it just says cutie,

1073
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: hug me, I, hurt you XO XO and love it.

1074
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes? How have they not caught on more? Maybe because

1075
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: of the sick freaks we're about to hear from from Zeitgang,

1076
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: who are like, no, I actually like the absence of

1077
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: anything other than dry sweet.

1078
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like you know the ship that

1079
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: when you don't put a cap on a toothpaste and

1080
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: some of them gets hard around.

1081
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: Oh god, that is the worst.

1082
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: It's or it's the best. I actually just like take

1083
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: them like pills and then feel them just dissolve in

1084
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: my chest.

1085
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 4: The same people who like to brush their teeth in

1086
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 4: dray caple or orange juice.

1087
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, No, no, no, all right, I do

1088
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: want to get to this mixed reality headset. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: run a little bit over because we have doctor John

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Speaker 1: Paul Higgins with us, one of the early adopters of

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Speaker 1: the Apple Vision plus pro pro jack pro.

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Speaker 2: I always want to call it plus because they did

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Speaker 2: everything they did was proper. Well, it used to be

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00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: everything they did was pro yeah, and then they started

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Speaker 2: doing everything plus yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, Well, so Stanford is digging in. I

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Speaker 1: don't think these studies were conducted on the Apple products,

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Speaker 1: so surely it were. But overnight, you know, we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of people using these in different scenarios, and

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Speaker 1: even if the first ones are like viral stunts that

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Speaker 1: will mean that somebody else is going to do them

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Speaker 1: think that those were real videos. So the complaints concerns

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Speaker 1: that the Stanford scientists had after testing what they're calling

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Speaker 1: camera passed through products, which is, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: the main technology here where you've got a headset on,

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Speaker 1: you're using a camera to replace your vision. They're saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, this could be a wave of the future

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Speaker 1: for sure, but despite the initial thrill, they quickly encounter drawbacks,

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Speaker 1: including visual distortions, feelings of social disconnection, and motion sickness.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Apple's not going to put a product

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Speaker 1: out there that's going to give you motion sickness. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that's probably something that this product has cut

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Speaker 1: down on. Yeah. Yeah, did you experience any like kind

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Speaker 1: of queasiness or feeling of like weird disconnect with your

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Speaker 1: surround human.

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Speaker 4: No, So the visual distortion possibly, like I said, because

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Speaker 4: you're again you are watching a video of your surroundings,

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Speaker 4: so it's like it literally is like having a video

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Speaker 4: camera in front of your your face. But what I

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Speaker 4: will say about the social disconnection I had, I can

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Speaker 4: easily see like when I took mine off, even when

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Speaker 4: I was in the store doing the demo, because when

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Speaker 4: I purchased mine on Friday, they were basically saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: it recommended you do a demo before you purchase. Because

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Speaker 4: I was one of those girls, was like, I just

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Speaker 4: want it, and they were like, no, do a demo.

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Speaker 4: Make sure that you like it, make sure that it

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Speaker 4: fits your face. Yeah. I was like, okay, bet So

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Speaker 4: I stayed there for the extra thirty minutes, did the demo,

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Speaker 4: took mine home, and when I took it off, I

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 4: was thinking to myself, I could see people who are

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Speaker 4: very much antisocial, who just really don't want to, who

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Speaker 4: don't feel any reason or need to be connected to

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Speaker 4: other people. I could see how someone would be disconnected

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Speaker 4: and lose themselves in this, Like I could see it.

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Speaker 2: Right yah, because it's offering you all these other experiences

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00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: that are ways that are very vivid that yeah, just

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00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: chilling at home or wherever you live, I obviously can't

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Speaker 2: offer you, right Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Users reported difficulties with simple tasks like giving high fives okay,

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: that's a lot, or eating I do just like the

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Speaker 1: idea of watching somebody with one of those on just

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00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: whiffing on a high five. Although I'll say I whiff

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Speaker 1: on high fives all the time without anything on my face.

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Speaker 2: So that is true.

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Speaker 1: And even though I'm like right here, Jack, right here,

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00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: right here, and you're pointing with your other hand at

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Speaker 1: your pone.

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00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: Always ends up me grabbing your wrists and I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, five, you did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But the one thing that I feel like could

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: just generally like, no matter how good the cameras get,

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Speaker 1: how smooth the technology becomes, they say, there's like a

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Speaker 1: even though what you're looking at is real, it has

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00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: a video game like otherness to it. It does yeah,

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Speaker 1: which feels Yeah, I don't know, it feels bad.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know, Man, video games are pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also that there's like some after effects from having

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Speaker 1: it on, where the effect of like you know, like

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the tests they run is

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Speaker 1: where you're able to like point to where you point

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Speaker 1: to your nose, and like sometimes people using these are

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Speaker 1: not able to do that because their nose I think,

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Speaker 1: I think it your nose is actually larger than you

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Speaker 1: expect it to be when you have the pass through

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Speaker 1: device on right right, and then some some of that

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: takes a little while to wear off. So even if

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Speaker 1: you're like wearing it for like three hours and then

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: going out for a walk or a drive, you still

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00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: have like some weird visual psychological distortions that linger on,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense to me, like just like playing like

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Speaker 1: video games or like being on a boat or skiing

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Speaker 1: like those three things, like have like visual tracers that

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Speaker 1: like you close your eyes after you're doing it, like

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Speaker 1: seven hours later, can still like your brain is still

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Speaker 1: fucking around. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When I used to play Guitar Hero Heavy, Yeah, every

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00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: time I close my eyes, I'll just see the little shits

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Speaker 2: like still my brain still sees them. But I think

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Speaker 2: you know this, I wonder if someone's gonna use the

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Speaker 2: Apple Vision Pro defense for like a DUI when they're like,

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: all right, do to do the field? Sobriety test, I

1184
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: need you to close your eyes, get on one leg,

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Speaker 2: and touch your nose, and you just like completely fucking

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Speaker 2: like ostifer. I know this sounds really fucking a wild dude,

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Speaker 2: but I have vision proNT that's four hours. So you

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Speaker 2: should read the study. Man, it's harder to find your

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Speaker 2: nose is bigger in person than in the vision bro,

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Speaker 2: So I read that.

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Speaker 4: Now, why were you laid on this Where were you

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Speaker 4: laid on this project? Well, the Apple Vision pro you know,

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Speaker 4: he threw off my.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't find it like a less sympathetic excuse, like, man,

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Speaker 2: what are you.

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Speaker 1: Talking to my hands as toute?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want me to do it? Yeah, and it

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Speaker 4: So can I say this? I will say this on air.

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Speaker 4: I have a hard I also am feeling like like, yay,

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Speaker 4: I have one. But I also feel like I'm feeding

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Speaker 4: into the elitism of the stamp things. So I kind

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Speaker 4: of tried not to talk about it too much because

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Speaker 4: people being like, who are you have thirty five? Well,

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Speaker 4: actually it was four four. It was forty five hundred dollars.

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 4: You have forty five hundred dollars to throw away, So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't know you, or you could be terrible

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Speaker 2: with your money, you know, Well no, but no, But

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Speaker 2: easier to.

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Speaker 1: Say that I'm actually terrible with my money. Yeah, but terrible.

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting for it forever. And plus have that Apple

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Speaker 4: cart so amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, doctor John Paul Higgins, It's been such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you as always. Where can people find you? Follow

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Speaker 1: you all that good stuff?

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Speaker 4: Well, when I'm not standing in line at the Apple

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Speaker 4: store for a drop. You can find me at Doctor

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Speaker 4: John Paul everywhere. Also, you can find me every Tuesday

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Speaker 4: at the Black Fat Fem podcast on iHeartMedia, iHeart Podcast

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Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcast. And yeah, my website

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Speaker 4: ww dot Doctor John Paul dot com.

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Speaker 1: There you go. And is there a work of media

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Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 4: Yes, so there is a So I will say this,

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Speaker 4: I am not an editor. I can edit. I actually

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Speaker 4: think I'm quite good at it. But people who can

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Speaker 4: sit and make edits for a very like for a

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Speaker 4: long period of time of things, I find them to

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Speaker 4: be the people that they're just they're just amazing. So

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Speaker 4: there's this person on Twitter, Clay Garson, who has a

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Speaker 4: says learned the alphabets with Nini Leaks and it is

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Speaker 4: absolutely it's hilarious. Like for every single alphabet letter, there's

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Speaker 4: something Niani Leaks has said, and I just I wish

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Speaker 4: that she would come back to TV. I really like Leaks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what happened?

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Speaker 2: I mean ever since didn't Greg pass away?

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Speaker 1: Greg? Did?

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Speaker 4: I think Greg passed away? Two years ago?

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Speaker 2: Those two years that's how that's how behind I am

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Speaker 2: with my Real Housewives of Atlanta New This way hold on,

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Speaker 2: I think I just want to hear this video really quick.

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Speaker 3: B is for big nose right C. It's for close

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Speaker 3: your legs to Mary Man, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nani's got some good ones, got some good ones.

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Speaker 1: Nini is just a gem.

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Speaker 4: I love her. So where is your scooter?

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Speaker 1: Hunna? Where is it? Miles? Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: What's working media you've been enjoyed?

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Speaker 2: Find me on the AT based platforms at Miles of Gray,

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01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: Find us on our basketball podcast, Miles and jackot Mad Boosties,

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01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: find me on my ninety dance podcast Force And if

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: you want to hear some what else, Well, here's some

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: if you want to know. The tweet I like is

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01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: from at prod by perfectly perfectly orchestrated quote tweeted this

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Speaker 2: thing it said from this from Double XL magazine that

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Speaker 2: said Little John is coming out with a Guided Meditation album.

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01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: TMC reports the ten track project is reportedly scheduled to

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Speaker 2: drop on February sixteenth, to which prod By Perfectly produced

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01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: by perfectly quote tweeted, snap your fingers, take a breath,

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01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: go ahead, release that stress. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: what is a Little John Guided Meditation album gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm willing to try it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try that amazing. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien the I was enjoying.

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01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted a video of the truck or convoy megas

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: fighting each other and at Bobby big Wheel replied, we

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Speaker 1: put every guy in America who's been kicked out of

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Speaker 1: a t ball game in one place. Anyway, I hope

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Speaker 1: it works out.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeikeeist.

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Speaker 1: We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook fan page and a website Daily zeikeist dot com.

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Speaker 1: Or post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Just with the rainy weather that's going on, Like, I

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Speaker 2: wanted something cozy, something that makes you kind of feel that.

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Speaker 1: He did you know that being out out of the

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Speaker 1: rain is a.

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Speaker 2: Good place to be, which objectively is true. You probably

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Speaker 2: don't music to feel that. But there's this artist named

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Speaker 2: Milt Buckner and he like plays like old school like

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Speaker 2: Hammond organ, like from back, like from the like early

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Speaker 2: twentieth century, and I just I like the sound of

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Speaker 2: the Hammond organ, but done in a right way.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gives you a little bit of ambiance

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Speaker 1: that if you.

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Speaker 2: Know, turn the lights low, it'll class the joint up

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: and you'll feel like you're in a some kind of

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Speaker 2: bar restaurant that people of color probably weren't allowed in,

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Speaker 2: but now we are and it's our own home. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: this track is called Turquoise and is by Milt Buckner,

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Speaker 2: So check that out. Just some good old Hammond lounge

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Speaker 2: music for you.

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Speaker 1: Well right, we will link off to that in the

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Speaker 1: footnotes to Daily's Like as a production by Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. That is going to do it for us

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Speaker 1: this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what is trending,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you all then Bye bye