Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: You got Marshaw, Basmall, Lynch.
Speaker 3: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin knew someone and you're listening to
Speaker 3: politickets you know to be you know.
Speaker 2: To be.
Speaker 1: Marshawn held On? Gavin, why the fuck you ain't running
Speaker 1: for president? Andre No, we're gonna get to that. I
Speaker 1: just hate I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Did anything happen this weekend? Anything happened?
Speaker 1: Hey, forty eight hours, Marshall, something happened. Something happened.
Speaker 3: What are you, by the way, what have you guys
Speaker 3: been up to the last forty hour?
Speaker 1: Doug?
Speaker 3: What the hell have you been up to?
Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you about my week Avin. I've
Speaker 4: been a couple of things. I've been drinking aperol, sprints
Speaker 4: is watching my daughter's volleyball tournament. Her most of Beach,
Speaker 4: by the way, beautiful part of California, her most of
Speaker 4: Manhattan Beach.
Speaker 5: Fantastic that.
Speaker 4: I just did a huge contract for a client, Kenny
Speaker 4: Clark of the Packers.
Speaker 5: I just love Kenny.
Speaker 1: You're love Kenny.
Speaker 5: We love Kenny.
Speaker 4: Kids foot in New York for about a four hour meeting.
Speaker 4: Of course, Jet Blue Mint laid down airlines, which is great.
Speaker 4: So I had a few cocktails in that as well.
Speaker 4: And I just got back Marshawn, and you've been doing
Speaker 4: some Amazon football stuff, right.
Speaker 6: And I'm being tripping and trying to figure out why saying,
Speaker 6: my boy Batman running for motherfucking president. That's what I've
Speaker 6: been doing. I've been trying to figure out why dog
Speaker 6: ain't running for president.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'll tell you what though, let me tell
Speaker 3: you what I did.
Speaker 5: So, Gavin, how's your week going, Gavin?
Speaker 3: Everything's great, everything, this is normal.
Speaker 1: Typically couldn't be what I said, couldn't be.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Couldn't be? I mean because in my lifetime, I don't
Speaker 1: think I never seen the president and drop out like that.
Speaker 3: How old am I?
Speaker 1: I ain't seen no shit like that?
Speaker 6: And then because it make it a little bit more spicy,
Speaker 6: because I'm sitting down with possibly the motherfucker that could
Speaker 6: really go and do it.
Speaker 3: Though, by the way, I wasn't sitting down when I
Speaker 3: got the word. I was on my treadmill. I was
Speaker 3: working on the treadmill, and all this sudden the phone
Speaker 3: starts lighting up saying you obviously seen this, And I'm
Speaker 3: like this third person said, you've obviously seen this I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the hell they talking about? So I put it
Speaker 3: down to two. I'm walking.
Speaker 1: I think it was.
Speaker 3: Four actually, and I'm walking and I'm like, whoa. And
Speaker 3: that was the last thing I was expecting on a
Speaker 3: quiet Sunday. And then I mean lights out on the
Speaker 3: cell phone and all the emails and everything else.
Speaker 6: Don't nobody like, you know, give you a little hey,
Speaker 6: check it out.
Speaker 3: This has got thirty seconds. This is gonna hit nothing.
Speaker 1: No head to no.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that gang should work. I just
Speaker 1: know that you feel me.
Speaker 6: I fucked with you, so we locked in like this,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, hell yeah, I thought I was gonna get.
Speaker 4: So, Gavin, did you talk to Biden on Sunday? Did
Speaker 4: Joe call? Did President Biden call you?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I felt Now I feel even worse because the phone
Speaker 3: was ringing off the hook, lose my and now voicemails full,
Speaker 3: and I get all these text messages from the White
Speaker 3: House and the President's trying to get in touching, but
Speaker 3: I didn't even see them.
Speaker 1: So you hear these casages.
Speaker 3: No, so president calls, the Vice President calls. I'm still
Speaker 3: in the damn gym and I haven't even I mean
Speaker 3: literally didn't even know that they called because the rest
Speaker 3: of my phone was lighting up and I was just
Speaker 3: focusing on putting out a statement on behalf of the President. Marshall,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's going on. People are all in
Speaker 3: now for Kamala Harris all in. I've never said anything
Speaker 3: like it. Let me tell you just a few years ago,
Speaker 3: your hometown girl from Oakland, on Martin Luther King Day,
Speaker 3: she had a rally that was unbelievable, almost twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: twenty thousand people on Martin Luther King Day announcing her
Speaker 3: campaign for president, and she raised I remember it was
Speaker 3: like a record breaking day for a presidential Canada. I mean,
Speaker 3: it wasn't record breaking, but it was impressive. She raised
Speaker 3: one and a half million dollars in twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: In the first twenty four hours after the president resigned
Speaker 3: and supported Kamala, she raised eighty one million dollars just
Speaker 3: in twenty four hours. Everybody lined up, from myself, other governors.
Speaker 3: We had former presidents like Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton endorsing
Speaker 3: her candidcy. Now she has the delegates she needs to
Speaker 3: lock this in, including California. On Sunday night, the delegation
Speaker 3: came out formally to support her, and then just yesterday
Speaker 3: she had this unbelievable rally in Wisconsin and it was
Speaker 3: just next level energy. She's raised significantly more money than
Speaker 3: eighty one million in the first twenty four process. I've
Speaker 3: never said the script is flipped just like that forty
Speaker 3: eight hours.
Speaker 6: So who writing y'all script? Because you know, they said
Speaker 6: the NFL got a script. So I'm pretty sure in
Speaker 6: the politics that y'all got a script too. So how
Speaker 6: do this script play out?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: This script is written by the American people, Marshaun, This
Speaker 3: script is written by people that get out there.
Speaker 6: Am I considered the American citizen. I changed my mind
Speaker 6: all the motherfucking time. Sometimes I want to achieve Mrga.
Speaker 6: Then I might want some some tacos where you know,
Speaker 6: one day I might want meet some exotic and I
Speaker 6: might want something with a little bit of you feel
Speaker 6: me a little kitchen in the back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an easy choice. It's you don't get that.
Speaker 3: It's not thirty one flavors, buddy. This a binary choice.
Speaker 3: You got the guy who wants to bring us back
Speaker 3: to a pre nineteen sixties world, or you got Kama
Speaker 3: Harrison's just lighting it up right now. Lighting And by
Speaker 3: the way, I will say this, I pity Donald Trump
Speaker 3: right now. He was not prepared for this to happen,
Speaker 3: and he's flat footed. I know you don't want to
Speaker 3: get in politics, you know.
Speaker 6: I just say, I know, Look, they really just got
Speaker 6: that blood head thought life.
Speaker 1: You feel me. That wasn't right. You feel me.
Speaker 6: Blood was duck down and hell bounced up like terror,
Speaker 6: fright and hell of shit. I'm like, oh this And
Speaker 6: then they started playing some fifty behind many man wish
Speaker 6: there for punt. I said, look, I don't do the
Speaker 6: politics and all of that, but that right, that was
Speaker 6: some Look I don't know, you know, I'm on the outside.
Speaker 6: You feel me that I don't know what I'm talking.
Speaker 6: I'm just chilling.
Speaker 1: Is shit. But that was another right.
Speaker 3: Nothing about that was right. Nothing was about about that
Speaker 3: was right. Nothing, Hey, Gavin, that I find real quick.
Speaker 4: So I was on a plane. I've been watching the
Speaker 4: CNN and MSNBC. First of all, this jd Vance guy.
Speaker 4: This guy is dangerous. Man.
Speaker 5: This guy's a bad.
Speaker 2: Dude, Doug.
Speaker 3: I mean this, I think I think if you're Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: you're stewing right now because you know, you made a
Speaker 3: big mistake.
Speaker 5: He double won versus stupid, especially with.
Speaker 3: Commelin now in there. They weren't prepared. He's flat footed.
Speaker 3: He didn't even sound like himself. These guys. I mean
Speaker 3: this whole You talk about a script. In this case,
Speaker 3: it is flipped all of a sudden. Donald Trump is
Speaker 3: on the defense, just like that Marshawn. The whole point
Speaker 3: is after assassination check nothing about that right and was
Speaker 3: universally condemned at the Democratic Party, not just the Republican Party.
Speaker 3: It's nothing about that was right. And I reached out
Speaker 3: to his family. There was nothing about that. But I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what it shows what in politics, man, anything
Speaker 3: can happen. It happens fast. And so now this thing
Speaker 3: is a sprint. You got the convention coming up in
Speaker 3: a few weeks. But I got to tell you it's
Speaker 3: a lightning bolt for the Democratic Party, who was filled
Speaker 3: with so much anxiety and doubt about will he or
Speaker 3: will he not continue to stand the race again with Grace.
Speaker 3: I just I want, I hope we have a chance
Speaker 3: to focus on more on on Joe Biden. But it's changed.
Speaker 6: I'm not the sharpest, I won't even you know what
Speaker 6: I mean even put myself in one of them type
Speaker 6: of categories.
Speaker 1: I'm a cool individual.
Speaker 6: You feel me, y'all kick back and you know what
Speaker 6: I mean our politic like we're doing right now, Yes, sir,
Speaker 6: But Gavin, I've seen you in the public, bro. You
Speaker 6: feel what I'm saying. Yeah, and you you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. You're a governor. You went like I said,
Speaker 6: you wanted them dudes, and hell of shit, I got
Speaker 6: a lot of respect for you. I fuck with you,
Speaker 6: my boy. But this you feel me? This is a president,
Speaker 6: feel me running for a president? Fuck you less something
Speaker 6: like that? Even you feel me? How you even less
Speaker 6: something like that transpired?
Speaker 3: Or that the assassination?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that kind of gotta motherfucker scratching is dumb, Like
Speaker 6: how you even get in position of one knock somebody.
Speaker 1: Off like that?
Speaker 3: By the way, no excuse people sit on.
Speaker 6: In a driveway for days, weeks at a time and
Speaker 6: wait for that right move.
Speaker 3: And we could talk about his weapon of choice and
Speaker 3: the ease availability across the country that weapon of choice.
Speaker 3: But no, Just so so you know that the head
Speaker 3: of the Secret Service rightfully just resigned yesterday. Uh, she
Speaker 3: had bipartisan pressure to resign to your question of how
Speaker 3: the hell can you let this happen?
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: There's no margin for error, there's no excuse for that.
Speaker 3: And now look all of us. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: radically changed the way people think about everything right now.
Speaker 3: And it sobered everybody up and and you know, look again,
Speaker 3: but it also just proves everything just flipped. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: had the rn C last week, you had sort of
Speaker 3: what up until Trump speaks.
Speaker 1: Heaven you be saying on him work R and C.
Speaker 3: Talking about you got to edge AR fifteen, the damn
Speaker 3: weapon of choice. Hey, that's what I was referring to.
Speaker 2: That ain't right.
Speaker 3: Now you're paying attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, okay, look you see my look, I'm paying attention.
Speaker 2: It ain't right.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about gun safety another time. Had a
Speaker 3: huge issue. I'd under state issue. By the way, you
Speaker 3: got your own Oakland girl, Oakland through and through Alameda
Speaker 3: County prosecutor is going to prosecute the case.
Speaker 1: I wonder if she prosecuted my daddy.
Speaker 3: Person of conviction running against a guy with four point
Speaker 3: thirty four convictions. This is a moment American history has
Speaker 3: been made in real time.
Speaker 5: Marksh On No Gavin. We're fired up. Bro.
Speaker 4: Look here's the deal. We're fired up. We're beyond her.
Speaker 4: We're we got to get that dude out of there.
Speaker 4: We got to get Advance out of there. Not a
Speaker 4: big fan. So let's get to singing Rowland. We got
Speaker 4: great things in front of us next four months. Let's
Speaker 4: uh rock and roll more. Seawn tagging, drag Baby tagging.
Speaker 3: Ray By the way, we also have something in front
Speaker 3: of us today and that that's Draymond Green Man our
Speaker 3: first official interview on this podcast, Draymond And that was
Speaker 3: a hell of an interview.
Speaker 1: People gonna enjoy this one.
Speaker 4: Yes, we do a hell of an interview. Yes, Draymond Green.
Speaker 4: Draymond Green is one of the best. Him and Marchhan
Speaker 4: go way back along with myself and he's It's a great,
Speaker 4: great interview. People got to listen. It's the informative. It's powerful.
Speaker 3: Do you know why it's powerful and informative? You listen,
Speaker 3: You've never heard Marshawn Lynch and Draymond Green be this
Speaker 3: damn honest. This is next level. This was I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: this is a powerful, powerful and important interview.
Speaker 4: Hey, gop, here's the true story. Marshaun might remember this.
Speaker 4: One of the most powerful moments Moreshawn got to me
Speaker 4: was actually ironically in Draymond's hometown of Saginaw at three
Speaker 4: in the morning outside of a white castle during one
Speaker 4: of a camp out there in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 4: and Marshawn got me. He's like, hey, we need to talk.
Speaker 4: It was three in the morning. I'm like tired and
Speaker 4: want to go back to my hotel. And we end
Speaker 4: up talking till five forty five am. Literally, And remember that.
Speaker 6: Marshawn, they called him loud at night Draymond's hometown.
Speaker 5: And next up is Draymond Green.
Speaker 4: We want to welcome the four time NBA champ. We'll
Speaker 4: get to that story a little later on Marshan, but
Speaker 4: four time NBA Champ, two time Gold medalists, one of
Speaker 4: the baddest NBA players of all time.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: One of a great father, great husband, great person. Draymond Green.
Speaker 4: Welcome to politicing and also Draymond Green with the Draymond
Speaker 4: Green Show, which is one of the.
Speaker 7: Best podcasts in the country.
Speaker 2: Legit.
Speaker 7: Thank you for joinings, Draymond.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it absolutely no.
Speaker 2: I thank you all for having me on. I'm super
Speaker 2: excited to be on. I think this is going to
Speaker 2: create some great memories for us all who hired a
Speaker 2: podcast space, and I'm looking forward to it. So thank you.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: By the way, how the hell, I mean, what was
Speaker 3: your inspiration for jumping right into the podcast world?
Speaker 2: You know what? I so, it's a funny thing and
Speaker 2: like you probably still can look it up as all
Speaker 2: this stuff lists forever had. I tried a podcast before.
Speaker 2: It was called dre Deck and it had to be
Speaker 2: one of the biggest failure, one of the worst things
Speaker 2: I've ever done in my life. And when I did it,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I probably did maybe five or six episodes,
Speaker 2: and in my mind, I'm like, I need to go
Speaker 2: on there, I need to say something so everybody get
Speaker 2: upset and break the internet. And like I was just
Speaker 2: on there going for hot takes. It was pathetic and
Speaker 2: so I stopped. And however, I knew that it was
Speaker 2: something that I would want to get back into, because
Speaker 2: what I did enjoy about the podcast space is like,
Speaker 2: sometimes I think I have some great answers, but they
Speaker 2: can get a little long winded and in an interview
Speaker 2: that's very hard to do. So I'm like, I can
Speaker 2: get on a podcast and rip. So I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, when I get it back into it, it's
Speaker 2: got to be great. I've had my one shot at
Speaker 2: that's been a failure. If I mess it up this time, like,
Speaker 2: I can't get back in. So I just wanted to
Speaker 2: get back into it so I can kind of give
Speaker 2: more long winded answers and kind of carry a conversation
Speaker 2: throughout as opposed to kind of these chopping things that
Speaker 2: we get when we're doing interviews.
Speaker 3: It's interesting, but I guess the difference for you is
Speaker 3: you're doing it the highs and the lows in the
Speaker 3: middle of the damn season, the playoffs, championship runs, and
Speaker 3: so you're generating tons of content and a lot of energy,
Speaker 3: a lot of risk in that, right.
Speaker 2: And there's a ton of risk in it. And you know,
Speaker 2: when I first started the podcast, ironically, I started and
Speaker 2: maybe November of twenty twenty one, which for us is
Speaker 2: the beginning of what was our last championship season, and
Speaker 2: everybody's like, hey man, you can't podcast. How dare you
Speaker 2: podcast and play the game? You should be in the gym,
Speaker 2: And I just look at it like, well, I've been
Speaker 2: in the gym, So what should I do with these
Speaker 2: twenty one other hours of the day that I'm not
Speaker 2: in the gym? Is it maybe okay for me to
Speaker 2: podcast a little bit? Then? And so that was kind
Speaker 2: of the talk, and before you know it, uh sports,
Speaker 2: sports media television, they're like, oh, he's podcasting, he's focused
Speaker 2: on this. To fans, he's podcasting, focus on this. And
Speaker 2: then the podcast started to become a focal point of conversation,
Speaker 2: and so it was motivating for me, like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I got to play great because they're going to try
Speaker 2: to use this thing and we end up winning the championship.
Speaker 2: So what I'll tell you, Gavin is this, you get ready,
Speaker 2: my friend, because they're going to come at you. They're
Speaker 2: going to say you're not running the state, You're not
Speaker 2: doing your job, we need a new governor. How is
Speaker 2: he sitting? He's doing to all the clips? Man, Oh
Speaker 2: listen coming Guess what? And quite frankly, one hour out
Speaker 2: of your day I don't think is changing anything. So
Speaker 2: I want to tell you good luck, but also of
Speaker 2: luck with hearing these people talk all the things that
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to say that our baseless claims but
Speaker 2: it's coming, so get ready.
Speaker 1: For some like, uh, hey, shut the fuck up, though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: That's that's kind of like how hey, shut the fuck up,
Speaker 6: and you know what I mean, do your ship?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what That's what happened in telling you, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, you need to be out there
Speaker 6: uh uh babysitting your badass kids though, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that type ship.
Speaker 2: Though, and listen, That's how I looked at it, like, look,
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm doing pretty well in my life, Like
Speaker 2: I've overcome a lot of adversity, i have a pretty
Speaker 2: nice salary one with think and you'd have like people
Speaker 2: like yo, you like you should be doing this, you
Speaker 2: should be doing that. So then you click on like
Speaker 2: their Instagram profile and it's like no disrespect to the
Speaker 2: common folks, but like, if you can do something else
Speaker 2: where you hour in the day, why can't I do
Speaker 2: something else for.
Speaker 1: My hour in the day, Like because you're not human?
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy though, Like if you look at my
Speaker 2: life in your life, like most people will then say
Speaker 2: I probably have the extra hour to do something, but
Speaker 2: they want to tell me that I should have spend
Speaker 2: that extra hour in the gym. I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: a very.
Speaker 7: Interesting well, people are sick.
Speaker 4: I remember, like Christian McCaffrey got married a couple weeks ago, okay,
Speaker 4: in his and his wife had his wedding dress on,
Speaker 4: and I read something There was like over five hundred
Speaker 4: thousand comments about the dress. And I'm like, this fucking
Speaker 4: guy gets married, Okay, happiest day of the life. And
Speaker 4: people are ripping on a wedding dress. These are sick
Speaker 4: fucking people, you know what I'm saying. So this is
Speaker 4: going on with the country.
Speaker 2: If she wants to walk out there with without any
Speaker 2: dress on, it's their wedding, and why does it matter
Speaker 2: to you? Like, we just need to get We just
Speaker 2: need to get. We just need to get back to
Speaker 2: a place where people do what the hell they want
Speaker 2: to do and we're about what it is that they do,
Speaker 2: and let me do what I do and worry about
Speaker 2: what it is that I do.
Speaker 4: Hey man, well Draymond, let me tell you. Let me
Speaker 4: as you know, I met you back in two thousand
Speaker 4: and six. My client Lamar Woodley saganaw sag nasty, right, Marshaan.
Speaker 4: By the way, Marshan loves Sagonaw Draymond.
Speaker 2: You know that marsh Marshawan is basically a hometown hero.
Speaker 6: Y'all know that what's up? We're gonna hit that chick
Speaker 6: a spot that you don't talk about. Absolutely, we don't fuck.
Speaker 1: Wait, it ain't sag nasty. What's up?
Speaker 7: So Gavin, no bullshit.
Speaker 2: I met him.
Speaker 4: One of my clients was grew up a Draymond and
Speaker 4: I never forget Draymond is draft for the Warriors and
Speaker 4: me and him, Marshawn and Lamar were hanging out quite
Speaker 4: a bit. And what struck me about Draymond early early
Speaker 4: back then was him and Marshaan are the same people.
Speaker 4: They don't give a shit they do the wrong thing,
Speaker 4: they don't they don't listen to people in terms of conforming.
Speaker 4: And you've almost done that, Draymond. I appreciate how you've
Speaker 4: lived your life because you and Marshawan is you know,
Speaker 4: are very similar. You guys are like family, and you've
Speaker 4: done it the same way, and you're you're both gonna
Speaker 4: go in the Hall of Fame as to the best
Speaker 4: icons of all time and everybody athletes around the world
Speaker 4: marvel at you and Marshawan, because they all want to
Speaker 4: do what you guys do, but they can't do it.
Speaker 4: And so I appreciate what you've done in your career
Speaker 4: and how you've done it because it's real and it's
Speaker 4: raw and it's really impressive.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it. You know what the reality is,
Speaker 2: I think we both we both go about things our
Speaker 2: own way, but in no way, shape or form is
Speaker 2: it a hindrance to to someone else, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: and living our lives the way we live our lives
Speaker 2: and carrying ourselves the way we carry ourselves. One thing
Speaker 2: that I think allows us to both do that is
Speaker 2: we both have a brain, like Marshan. The thing that
Speaker 2: they don't say Marshaan with the col berkey like no,
Speaker 2: like no, nope, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't get in the caw.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I think I'm a pretty smart guy. I
Speaker 2: could close to getting in the cat, you know. But nonetheless,
Speaker 2: I think we both have a good sense of who
Speaker 2: we are. I think, and more importantly, I think we
Speaker 2: both come from great mothers. I know his mother really well. Hang,
Speaker 2: that's actually sitting right.
Speaker 6: For the blaster line telling don't trip. I know I
Speaker 6: missed it this Mother's Day, but you know it's coming.
Speaker 6: That's my baby, tell you, he shout out my you
Speaker 6: should have told her to get in here, uh and
Speaker 6: give me one of them what's it called uh air
Speaker 6: hugs or some of that on the media ship, but no,
Speaker 6: realistically know, bro, I think what it is is and
Speaker 6: it's really fucking simple.
Speaker 1: We're just comfortable in our skin, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean a lot of people you feel me, they
Speaker 6: they I feel that they lack that or they just
Speaker 6: they not uh accepting to you only get one of you,
Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, you just got to maximize
Speaker 6: that motherfucker. And I think you feel me in your situation.
Speaker 6: I think that's exactly what you're doing. You're not living
Speaker 6: your life for nobody else, because once that motherfucking cast
Speaker 6: get dropped, you feel me though, that's it. And I
Speaker 6: live your life and live your life for the acceptance
Speaker 6: of somebody who probably wouldn't give a fuck about you.
Speaker 6: It kind of just don't make no sense to me.
Speaker 6: And then what I heard was common sense ain't coming.
Speaker 6: But from my understanding, it's like, why would I live
Speaker 6: to to get you to accept me?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Or get you to accept me, because at the end.
Speaker 6: Of the day, when that motherfucker, like I said, when
Speaker 6: that motherfucker drop is, it's cookies. So I'm gonna enjoy
Speaker 6: this motherfucker while I'm living. And you know what, I
Speaker 6: love to be me. I love that ship.
Speaker 8: Yes you do that, so you know you be in
Speaker 8: the cut, you know what I mean, peeping you and
Speaker 8: ship and you know, I mean, I hear a lot
Speaker 8: of people with a lot of foul shit to say
Speaker 8: about you and all the ship, and I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 8: you feel me, Like at the end today, how they
Speaker 8: rocking or you know their opinions and now.
Speaker 6: That you know, social media has gave the the platform
Speaker 6: to anybody, uh to have their opinion to speak on
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, what they feel or you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, and motherfuckers take that shit to heart.
Speaker 6: But you know what I mean when I look at
Speaker 6: it and I'm like, damn, look at my son. Don't
Speaker 6: give a fuck about what nobody. He lived his life
Speaker 6: the way that he's going to like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: for any for any young athlete, you know, I mean
Speaker 6: coming up in the game, you feel athlete, for any
Speaker 6: young person coming up, like just to be comfortable and
Speaker 6: accept who you are, Like it's no feeling more satisfied
Speaker 6: than looking in the mirror. And just like damn bro
Speaker 6: like I love you like when I look in the
Speaker 6: mirror and I love you like that's a great ass
Speaker 6: feeling it, you know what I mean. I don't need
Speaker 6: no acceptance from no other person to make me feel love.
Speaker 6: Now if you if you love me and you give
Speaker 6: me love, now that's extra and that's off the strip.
Speaker 6: But you know that love from yourself, that ship is
Speaker 6: so genuine, you know what I mean. And I and
Speaker 6: I see and I see that you got that and
Speaker 6: that ship is it you know, I mean, it's a
Speaker 6: proud thing. And then like you said, you know, I
Speaker 6: mean to you know, to a too understanding. Uh, young
Speaker 6: women are mothers, like I just know for a fact,
Speaker 6: like you know, I mean raising boys in America. You
Speaker 6: feel me like that ship is so important instelling us
Speaker 6: and I believe you know, like you said, they did
Speaker 6: a great ass job doing that.
Speaker 2: You fear me.
Speaker 1: Man, you got your mom's come on here and show
Speaker 1: her fake man.
Speaker 2: Take.
Speaker 7: Let me ask a question.
Speaker 4: As you know, I've been an Asian thirty years now,
Speaker 4: and you preach these young kids about things and whatnot.
Speaker 4: You're a hall of famer. Marshawn's gonna be a Hall
Speaker 4: of famer. What if you had a would all over again,
Speaker 4: forget about like eating food right and working out.
Speaker 7: More and sleep and whatnot.
Speaker 4: What would you done differently or thought differently in terms
Speaker 4: of whether it be family, friends, businesses, whatever it may be,
Speaker 4: if you could do it, if you could get drafted again.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow, play football, by the way, by the way you want.
Speaker 4: Draymond loves football, now, trust me, he might be a
Speaker 4: tight end or d ended.
Speaker 7: He could have been a d end this league.
Speaker 2: I absolutely loved football. I was a pretty good den.
Speaker 2: I think I was better at d n than I
Speaker 2: was at tight end, though I was a decent tight
Speaker 2: end in my day, but I stopped earlier. I stopped
Speaker 2: after freshman year. I was going through a Grosberg, a
Speaker 2: seven inch Grossberger, over the course of like three and
Speaker 2: a half months. But I had no idea. So after
Speaker 2: football season, my knees were hurting so bad. I could
Speaker 2: barely run up and down the court for basketball. And
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm like, oh my god, they were
Speaker 2: chopping me down so bad. My knees from basketball. I
Speaker 2: got to stop. I went from five to eleven to
Speaker 2: this height that I am today from in between September.
Speaker 2: But you figure no November of my well, basketball season
Speaker 2: started in December, so you figure November of two thousand
Speaker 2: and four. By March two thousand and five, I was
Speaker 2: this hype from five eleven and so I was having
Speaker 2: crazy knee issues and I stopped. Nonetheless, I got a
Speaker 2: lot of respect for football players, and as tough as
Speaker 2: I think I am, I don't know if I'm not tough.
Speaker 6: Because even if you ask any of it, if you
Speaker 6: ask any Hoopers right now, that guess that man Draymond
Speaker 6: played hoops like a football player. And you feel me.
Speaker 6: We out there, you feel me. I probably need you.
Speaker 6: Probably every NFL player favorite Hooper like how they used
Speaker 6: to fight like sh taking the brush, bruh, slide on
Speaker 6: your ass on the hoop court for show. You feel
Speaker 6: straight up like you ain't. Don't come in here with
Speaker 6: none of that weak ass ship. Bro, Don't you feel
Speaker 6: me because it ain't that type of time over here.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 6: If you're gonna come in here, you gotta come in
Speaker 6: here the right way, bro, And don't be hella soft
Speaker 6: because I'm gonna tune your ass up quick.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 6: But the thing is what I what I like about
Speaker 6: it is the way that you play the game.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: I see you. You you you.
Speaker 6: Putting that to how you live your life. You feel
Speaker 6: what I'm saying you. You go hard, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean with the family. You feel me though, You
Speaker 6: go hard with that ship and uh you know your
Speaker 6: business ventures and and like realistic, like you the same
Speaker 6: that you is on the court, that you is, you
Speaker 6: feel me dot and your every day walk in life.
Speaker 6: And I mean that ship show, bro, that ship showing.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna be proud though you feel me. I mean,
Speaker 6: we ain't too too far off an age and like
Speaker 6: you know, Doug was you know what i mean, always
Speaker 6: strolling down memory lane. You know I'm talking about memory
Speaker 6: doing sag now. You you know you was a youngster,
Speaker 6: Lamar like yeah, this more and you feed me Lamar
Speaker 6: and my dog. You feel me though, but you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. As soon as we done click, oh,
Speaker 6: we was on. We was rocking like yeah, breath. And
Speaker 6: then when you get drafted to the UH, I mean
Speaker 6: you come to the UH, to the Warriors, you feel
Speaker 6: me like, oh yeah, man, oh you feel me and
Speaker 6: then you feel me like you know that's some real
Speaker 6: ship though, Like you feel me though, a lot of
Speaker 6: people getting into a position where you know, you know,
Speaker 6: they go to the league and then you know, you
Speaker 6: know they might you know, forget their roots or whatever.
Speaker 6: You was popping out to the hood. You feel what
Speaker 6: I'm saying though, you pull up in the ice on me.
Speaker 6: We was talking about uh about when I had came
Speaker 6: back to the writers Nigga, we did the little barber
Speaker 6: on due.
Speaker 1: You feel me though, And I remember my little cousin
Speaker 1: just sitting there.
Speaker 6: Stuck like like, yeah, don't say what's up, little cut
Speaker 6: He showed me that picture every time I pull up
Speaker 6: on you. But I'm like, you feel what I'm saying though,
Speaker 6: Like you pop out to the hood, like, man, what's handed.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it like it like I'm blue or
Speaker 6: find it or whatever, but I mean, you know, just
Speaker 6: to me, it was like you come back to where
Speaker 6: you feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: Well, I've always I've always told everybody like for me,
Speaker 2: I never like if you would have asked me when
Speaker 2: I when I was going through the draft process, like
Speaker 2: I'm a kid from sagon on Michigan, went to Michigan State,
Speaker 2: Like first twenty two years of my life. I never
Speaker 2: left the state of Michigan. Obviously the trial, but I
Speaker 2: was in the state of Michigan for tweeny two years.
Speaker 2: If you would have asked me, like any team where
Speaker 2: I was wanting to get drafted, the last place, the
Speaker 2: absolute last place I would have told you was I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm going to get drafted anywhere in the
Speaker 2: state of California. Like the state of California to me,
Speaker 2: sound is just so far away from home, like so
Speaker 2: far out of reach. And I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 2: I would get drafted to the state of California. Now
Speaker 2: not only do I get drafted to the state of California,
Speaker 2: but you start talking about like destiny and like how
Speaker 2: your life shape up. But I get drafted to the
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors in Oakland, California. I get to Oakland,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a sacond.
Speaker 1: Off away from home.
Speaker 2: My boy, I get there and I'm like, man, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm at home. I'm comfortable right, like I
Speaker 2: can be me, like this is who I am to
Speaker 2: my core, Like it's cool being me. Oakland understood me,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like the city of Oakland
Speaker 2: understand me. Like it's great. And when I look at
Speaker 2: how it all played out, like for me to be
Speaker 2: drafted to that place, like I couldn't have asked for
Speaker 2: a better situation. Obviously the way basketball played that we
Speaker 2: all know. But for me to be drafted to that
Speaker 2: particular place at that time in my life, it's set
Speaker 2: me up for success because they set me up to
Speaker 2: be exactly who I've been, exactly who I am, and
Speaker 2: no matter what, nobody could change that. And to do
Speaker 2: it in a place like that, it just gave me
Speaker 2: more comfortable.
Speaker 7: Golden State.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that?
Speaker 7: The Golden State?
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to go back a little bit of
Speaker 3: Marshawn was saying just about being yourself, be authentic. But
Speaker 3: you commented about, you know when you tried that first
Speaker 3: podcast and you were trying to be something you're not.
Speaker 3: You know, we're just just societally dealing with so much
Speaker 3: stress and anxiety. People put a mask on and their
Speaker 3: face grows into it, meaning they become how people think
Speaker 3: they should behave It's so resonant what Marshaun was just
Speaker 3: saying about being your authentic self and just bringing that
Speaker 3: every day and loving on yourself, but not in a
Speaker 3: sort of you know, not in a way that's braggadocious,
Speaker 3: not a way that it's narcissistic, but just bringing truly
Speaker 3: yourself in everything you do.
Speaker 2: Is that I mean?
Speaker 3: Does that resonate with you?
Speaker 2: What what Marshall just said?
Speaker 1: You can't say brag?
Speaker 3: What the hell I said?
Speaker 2: I don't even know what.
Speaker 7: Tells me what I can't say?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Do you see how this is going? I can't even
Speaker 3: like I got another word I can't say as well,
Speaker 3: which we we'll talk about later. But but but seriously,
Speaker 3: is that I mean?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Does that resonate with you? Is that something that I mean?
Speaker 3: Is that I mean?
Speaker 2: Is that true? I mean?
Speaker 5: Is is he not one?
Speaker 2: No? It's one? And I can you know, I can
Speaker 2: trace back in my life to exactly where that came from.
Speaker 2: Any time I ever did something wrong, no matter what
Speaker 2: it was. It could be from jumping off the balance
Speaker 2: of the Porsche to get in trouble in school to
Speaker 2: getting kicked out of the recreation center, like, no matter
Speaker 2: what it would be, my mom will say one thing,
Speaker 2: to be a leader. Be a leader, Be a leader.
Speaker 2: Are you being a follower? Be a leader? Be a leader,
Speaker 2: Be a leader. That's all I ever heard. And when
Speaker 2: she was saying, She's like, God, like, stop telling me
Speaker 2: the same thing over and over, like, but does that
Speaker 2: have to do with anything? But what she was teaching
Speaker 2: me was that very thing of being comfortable, like lead,
Speaker 2: be comfortable with who you are. Someone will follow you
Speaker 2: if you just lead. You don't have to follow those
Speaker 2: dumb things because that's not who you are, Like I
Speaker 2: know the kid that I'm raising, like, that's not who
Speaker 2: you are, and that hearing that on a daily every
Speaker 2: single day, like I had no choice but to be
Speaker 2: who I am because the moment that I wasn't it's like, no,
Speaker 2: that's not you, Like I know who you are, that
Speaker 2: isn't you? Right, and growing And as I as I
Speaker 2: continued to grow and understand to understand what she was saying,
Speaker 2: then it all started to come together for me. But
Speaker 2: then you go through so many trials and different things
Speaker 2: for being who you are because someone wants you to conform,
Speaker 2: someone wants you to be there. And I was just say, like,
Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm much better at being mean
Speaker 2: than i'd be at trying to be someone else, Like
Speaker 2: I think I do a much better job of being
Speaker 2: exactly who I am than I could ever do being.
Speaker 6: Somethe So hold on, hey, hey, that ain't correct me
Speaker 6: if I'm wrong. You had you had some you had
Speaker 6: to conform to. Though at the same time though, because
Speaker 6: from what I know that you didn't speak on is
Speaker 6: when you was getting into that ship, you know you
Speaker 6: had something answer to and that was one of them
Speaker 6: ass whoopings from Mama Dad that I'm what I'm damn
Speaker 6: there pushing fouty that you feel me. I still got
Speaker 6: that fear of my mama when she you fear me,
Speaker 6: don't get that tone in that voice, like I don't
Speaker 6: give a fuck how old you is?
Speaker 1: You hear that tone in my voice, you.
Speaker 6: Know it's like, oh yeah, okay, I bet I better
Speaker 6: straighten my ship up. You feel me though, moms Mom's
Speaker 6: had that. You feel me though they pumped that uh
Speaker 6: that fearing you that that make your ass straight nothing?
Speaker 1: Yep, you know what I mean that.
Speaker 2: I'm still to this day, Still, to this day, like
Speaker 2: I tell people all the time, to this day, I
Speaker 2: am terrified of my Like it does not matter, There's
Speaker 2: nothing that can change that like, no matter what it is,
Speaker 2: did she say to me like still to this very day,
Speaker 2: like I still live my life. She actually just walked
Speaker 2: in here. I still live my life based on like
Speaker 2: what I think she's gonna say if I do this
Speaker 2: like that she is, Mama, what's up? Like that's gathering, that's.
Speaker 5: Dub Marshan's loving on you.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 6: I got my toll sign over there, and then I
Speaker 6: got my two white kids over here. So yeah, I
Speaker 6: mean I wasn't you know, Papa was a rolling stone.
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm just doing the introducing, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. You know, got kids over there, got
Speaker 6: kids over here, and.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring them all together.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to grow into that father figure that you
Speaker 6: know I should have been, you know, back then.
Speaker 1: But you know it's all coming together now.
Speaker 4: Hey, Draymond, let me ask you a question that I
Speaker 4: think a lot of people don't know the whole story too.
Speaker 4: So going back to sixteen Cleveland, you get kicked out, okay,
Speaker 4: coming back to the town for the game, and you
Speaker 4: end up obviously can't go to the game, and you
Speaker 4: end up with Bob Myers, our great friend and your
Speaker 4: former GM and family at the suite at the coliseum.
Speaker 4: So what I want to know is how did more
Speaker 4: Shawn get there? And if that whole game was was
Speaker 4: filmed in the audio tape, how how great an epic
Speaker 4: moment would that tape be for to play back twenty
Speaker 4: thirty years from now in terms of what you guys
Speaker 4: were talking about.
Speaker 2: Doug, if I only knew what I knew today back then,
Speaker 2: like there should have been cameras rolling because that footage
Speaker 2: was absolutely insane. So I get kicked out, I get
Speaker 2: kicked out of the game. Well, I don't get kicked
Speaker 2: out of the game. Quite frankly, I don't get kicked
Speaker 2: out because I didn't make contacts, so you couldn't kick
Speaker 2: me out. Whatever. I didn't get suspended for a game
Speaker 2: for a punch that didn't land, but whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: we come back, we come back to Oakland and I
Speaker 2: can't play. I can't be at the arena. However, it's
Speaker 2: three to one, so I'm like, well, at the time,
Speaker 2: I'm living in I'm living in Berkeley Hills at the time,
Speaker 2: and so I can't make it from home to the
Speaker 2: arena where we went in this championship. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: I need to be close by the A's were having
Speaker 2: a game. Bob was like, listen, you could watch the
Speaker 2: game at the A Stadium in the suite. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's great. I had on all black, I had my route,
Speaker 2: my route that I was taking through the arena down.
Speaker 2: I was going to walk right past the cast while
Speaker 2: they was crying and my're all black. And it never happened.
Speaker 2: But so fast forward Bob, Bob sits in the suite
Speaker 2: with me, and Marshawn comes to sitting in the suite
Speaker 2: the entire time. He called me and he's like, Yo,
Speaker 2: where are you. Where are you watching the game? Man?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm watching the games at the Age at
Speaker 2: the stadium next door at the Age baseball game. He
Speaker 2: came and watched it with me. And again, if we
Speaker 2: could have had a tape roller, a camera roller during
Speaker 2: that time, I mean, what an amazing time like footage
Speaker 2: that could have been captured. Obviously I wish we would
Speaker 2: have won, But man, I look back on those times
Speaker 2: now and like you remember those people like I remember
Speaker 2: them being there with me. I can tell you everybody
Speaker 2: who was sitting in that in that sweet because it
Speaker 2: was such like a like we had these turning points
Speaker 2: of life, you know, like these moments where you can
Speaker 2: turn to it like that moment did this and like
Speaker 2: that was one of those huge moments.
Speaker 4: And was and this was on the heels of Marshawn
Speaker 4: not getting the ball the Super Bowl before. Right, so
Speaker 4: he's dealing what he dealt with you before. Now you're
Speaker 4: sitting there at the stadium going holy shit whatever, and
Speaker 4: so you guys are commiserating together. Be right, That footage
Speaker 4: and would have been some of the most iconic stuff
Speaker 4: of all time.
Speaker 2: One things for certain, Dug Hill, the real I ain't
Speaker 2: want them real. We went too real to be the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP and d back to back the real
Speaker 2: challenging man too real ones like that it's m vps
Speaker 2: and easily, Oh it's a little challenge.
Speaker 3: You said it's rigged.
Speaker 2: Was it rigged?
Speaker 3: You think it's so set?
Speaker 2: I would would I would never say it's rigged because
Speaker 2: I don't believe it's rigged. I think the integrity, you know,
Speaker 2: I appreciate the integrity that the NBA does hold in
Speaker 2: the NFL, but I but I do think, like as
Speaker 2: human beings, like these aren't machines making these decisions, right,
Speaker 2: so it's not it's not. No decision ever made in
Speaker 2: NBA history, in NFL history is black and white, right,
Speaker 2: because you can't go to a rude book and say,
Speaker 2: if Draymond gets into a fight, he's suspended for X
Speaker 2: amount of games. There is no rude there is no number.
Speaker 2: That number is then decided by human beings, right, And
Speaker 2: so I don't think it's rigged, and just doing this
Speaker 2: for the last twelve years, I know how these outcomes work.
Speaker 2: I don't think any of its rigged. But I do
Speaker 2: think it's human beings. Like you're gonna be swayed one
Speaker 2: way or the other by whatever you're swayed by. Someone
Speaker 2: called me right now and said, Yo, Traymon should be
Speaker 2: suspended because and then someone else called me and said
Speaker 2: Traymon should be suspended a lota. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: their reasoning for why they think Draymond should be suspended,
Speaker 2: But what I do know is that I hear them
Speaker 2: constantly in my ear telling me that Draymond should be suspended.
Speaker 2: So I could be swayed by that. So it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily that I'm swayed by YO, if Draymond, if they
Speaker 2: win this game, Raymond wins the finals MVP. I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily think that, by the way, but that person on
Speaker 2: the phone call and trying to persuade you can't be
Speaker 2: thinking that, you know what I'm sa And so I
Speaker 2: do think that the the decision could have been swayed
Speaker 2: by anything, because it's not black and white. It's not
Speaker 2: like this thing happens and it's overweight. It's a human
Speaker 2: being that's watching things, that's listening to things, that are
Speaker 2: reading things, and all of those things can sway your decision.
Speaker 1: Too much real shit going on at one time.
Speaker 3: What do you say the guy was facing one point
Speaker 3: two million dollars of fines in the Super Bowl? Is
Speaker 3: that where that comes from?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Now that now look, now that's different.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's that different.
Speaker 3: If Draymond has been facing fine suspensions, you've I mean,
Speaker 3: one thing you guys have in common as well, a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 2: Yes, listen, one point two million dollars finds I'll killed.
Speaker 2: I think I've been two and a half million dollars
Speaker 2: up to this. Possibly more sh.
Speaker 6: No, you know, that's just how that's just how the
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, you know, I go to his
Speaker 6: home state and there's love. He kind of mine is love,
Speaker 6: and then we could sit down and politic over some
Speaker 6: bullshit fines. You know what I mean, Dan, I mean
Speaker 6: you know we got I mean, got that in common.
Speaker 6: Then you I mean, uh, holding up that trophy. Well
Speaker 6: I ain't get the whole mind now, but holding up
Speaker 6: that trophy at the end of a uh of the season, uh.
Speaker 1: Crowned A's champions.
Speaker 6: And then you feel me though outside of that, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean every day walk being comfortable in your own skin.
Speaker 6: You know I'm talking about like, it's a lot of
Speaker 6: common similarities that you know what I mean, that we share,
Speaker 6: which is why you feel me though even if we
Speaker 6: don't talk, we can not talk for shid it could
Speaker 6: be years on out, but then as soon as we
Speaker 6: u click back up, it's like, shit, we were just
Speaker 6: with each other yesterday.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: That's that's you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, when when when you when you building and
Speaker 6: you grinding, That's what that ship is about.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm saying that that's that's well you
Speaker 6: can't say that. You can't say that either, But that's real.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, which is a terrible segue. Dream of a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, Doug. I think we were with
Speaker 3: Draymond and game five. I think of the finals in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. We came back to say hello, you
Speaker 3: guys are running in. You do what you always do,
Speaker 3: which is you immediately stopped over, said a low to us, uh,
Speaker 3: and we were bullshitting. You guys just won the game.
Speaker 3: You're going back to Boston for Game six, which you won,
Speaker 3: and and we were like, you know, great game, all
Speaker 3: this bullshit, and then you just randomly, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you remember this. You say, man, You're like, I'm
Speaker 3: not looking forward to going back to Boston. I said,
Speaker 3: what the hell? Because it was next level. I've been
Speaker 3: ideal with shit all the time, people saying f this
Speaker 3: and you but that crowd and the end word, and
Speaker 3: you said it got in your head. I think it
Speaker 3: was Game three.
Speaker 1: I was too close.
Speaker 3: I no, that's as close as it will ever get.
Speaker 3: It was close as it will ever get. But you
Speaker 3: but you. It was interesting. It was like a vulnerability
Speaker 3: that I'd never seen in you. For all the bravado,
Speaker 3: all the bs, you just had a great game. You
Speaker 3: guys crushed. I think Wiggans had a ridiculous game.
Speaker 7: That game you guys were on high.
Speaker 3: It was inevitable you were going to win Game six,
Speaker 3: but you were like hurt by that.
Speaker 2: I was. I listen, I think I've been booeding just
Speaker 2: about every arena. It happens a part of my sick mind.
Speaker 2: I love it. It gets me going. Like sometimes I
Speaker 2: run out Every now and then I will catch an
Speaker 2: arena where I run out and either the crowd missed
Speaker 2: them calling my name, or you know, maybe they don't
Speaker 2: hate me as much as the next place. But every
Speaker 2: now and then I run out it and I don't
Speaker 2: get booed, and it is like the weirdest thing. It's
Speaker 2: like a thing in our huddle. If I run out
Speaker 2: and get booed, everybody like.
Speaker 1: Yo, what's going on here?
Speaker 2: Like like what is this? Like? So I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: what happens. It's been happening in my entire career. When
Speaker 2: we got to Boston, I had never heard like Cleveland.
Speaker 2: You can imagine getting suspended for trying to hit brin
Speaker 2: Like Cleveland. They are drunk, loud, raunchy like Boston. Was
Speaker 2: that times a thousand on stere rooms Like I couldn't
Speaker 2: believe it, the things that they were saying like how
Speaker 2: they were saying like you could hear the hatred, like
Speaker 2: running down the sideline, and the way someone would say
Speaker 2: something to me like you could hear like it was
Speaker 2: almost giving me like, wow, you really want to do
Speaker 2: something else to me, Like if you could and I
Speaker 2: wasn't running up and down this basketball court, you'd be
Speaker 2: willing to take this as far as you could take it,
Speaker 2: Like I'm getting that feeling running down the court. And then,
Speaker 2: by the way, every time, every time there's an opportunity,
Speaker 2: there's a break in the moment, it is the loudest
Speaker 2: chance of fuck you Draymond ever And then those chants
Speaker 2: like as the game start back and I take off
Speaker 2: running down the court, the fuck you Draymond chests go away.
Speaker 2: But now the like the jabs from from the salon,
Speaker 2: from the courtside, from people right behind course, now all
Speaker 2: those jobs are coming there and it's inward. It's the
Speaker 2: B word. It's like everything you can imagine. I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 2: this is nuts. So Game three it threw me off.
Speaker 2: It's like, whoa Game four? I got benched. I haven't
Speaker 2: been benched since I started playing. I get benched in
Speaker 2: game four. Steve Kirks starts going offense, the defense up
Speaker 2: I'm playing, I'm like so out of it. In game four,
Speaker 2: him a little bit better, but man, I'm going there's
Speaker 2: a play and Steph I caught the ball out of
Speaker 2: a trap, and I'm like, this is game four. I
Speaker 2: caught the ball out of a trap. There's not really
Speaker 2: anybody in front of me. I don't even look at
Speaker 2: through them. I just turned back and look for Steph again,
Speaker 2: and stuff come flying out of nowhere. I hit him
Speaker 2: on the right wing. He hit a big three. It
Speaker 2: was a dagger three. But like I was so mentally gone.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do with the basketball. I
Speaker 2: was like here, like take it. And and at that point,
Speaker 2: by the way, because I'm going offense to defense, so
Speaker 2: my confidence offensively is shot. Like you're now taking me
Speaker 2: out of the game on offense and only putting me back.
Speaker 7: It was this the only game I catched the ball?
Speaker 7: Was this the only game You've been screwed up like this?
Speaker 2: Oh? To like like gone? And so we went game
Speaker 2: four and I literally went up to step after the
Speaker 2: game was like, yo, thank you, I got you. I
Speaker 2: got you in game five and then we're gonna come
Speaker 2: back here in game six and these boys done, and
Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. But man, I was like I
Speaker 2: was gone. There was no better feeling than the way
Speaker 2: I bounced back in game six.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And watching their fans, some of them walk out the arena,
Speaker 2: and watching some of them sit there and discuss watching
Speaker 2: us celebrate the championship on the floor.
Speaker 3: Marshawn, You have any ever had the experience with I mean,
Speaker 3: at that level of the crowds that they're just got
Speaker 3: in your head in a different way.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, I went the crowd now you know,
Speaker 6: it's it's a it's a I'll say, it's a little
Speaker 6: different considering you know, I mean the distance from the
Speaker 6: crowd to the field, and I mean, you know how
Speaker 6: how I'm locked in. And then even if it was
Speaker 6: a situation where where I did I did I did?
Speaker 6: Then Buffalo, we were playing in Pillian and one of
Speaker 6: the uh one of fans told me, hey, fuck you
Speaker 6: black motherfuckers, go get back in your fucking carn go
Speaker 6: and hit somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh oh you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That was a yeah, that was close to something I
Speaker 1: had like that.
Speaker 4: But well, Draymond, it got so bad for marsh I
Speaker 4: don't know if you know the story back from Marshawn
Speaker 4: and Buffalo, Like his second year there, he would literally
Speaker 4: be in the in the player's parking lot, okay and
Speaker 4: ten and windows music playing loud. The cops would pull
Speaker 4: them over when he left the players parking lot and
Speaker 4: give him a ticket for ten and windows and the
Speaker 4: music being too loud. This started, This started happening, so
Speaker 4: Marshawn's so, I'm like, you know what if I don't
Speaker 4: get him on a Buffalo, he may not ever get
Speaker 4: out of Buffalo, you know what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 4: may his career may be done, and they would follow
Speaker 4: him home all these different things. I I at one
Speaker 4: point I yelled at a cop publicly. I said, a
Speaker 4: cop in Buffalo is a racist roade cop. And his
Speaker 4: cop sued me for basically calling him out for for defamation.
Speaker 4: Luckily I found out he didn't pay his taxes, and
Speaker 4: I got wow, and my loss was dismissed.
Speaker 2: But it got level work right there.
Speaker 7: But it got INFALOI he.
Speaker 6: Was doing his age and ship at that time, yes,
Speaker 6: but but but but real real talk though, bro, Like
Speaker 6: you know, I mean with all that ship going on,
Speaker 6: and yeah, I mean just just uh you know the.
Speaker 1: Story you're just telling. How you doing mentally though?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 6: Like you know what I mean with everything going on
Speaker 6: for the position that you're in right now. Yeah, I mean, uh,
Speaker 6: just realistically, like aside from you know, I mean everything
Speaker 6: or what the what the public know or that you
Speaker 6: you know, you might post or you might put out there.
Speaker 1: How you doing mentally.
Speaker 2: Though I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm in a great space. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. But boy, last year was one of
Speaker 2: the hardest years of my life and it really took
Speaker 2: me to a real fucked up space mentally.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It is like in going through everything that I would
Speaker 2: through last year, I think it took me to such
Speaker 2: a bad space because basketball is one thing. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, if I'm honest, I mean, you
Speaker 2: know me, well, the person that I am when I'm competing,
Speaker 2: it's not the same person that I am on a
Speaker 2: daily basis. I can beat that person at any time, right,
Speaker 2: Like you can push me to that point. But I'm
Speaker 2: way more calm on a day to day basis than
Speaker 2: I am on the basketball court. Like I'm competing, Like
Speaker 2: it wake up a totally different beast and so. But
Speaker 2: regardless of who I am on the basketball court or whatever,
Speaker 2: people start the things that people started to question and
Speaker 2: say about me that was affecting people around me really
Speaker 2: started to really started to get to me. Like, you
Speaker 2: can say what you want about me. That's fine. I've
Speaker 2: heard these things for years on end. Of the things
Speaker 2: that people had to say and their thoughts about me,
Speaker 2: I can deal with, though, but when it starts to
Speaker 2: affect people around me, in particular my children, Like the
Speaker 2: things that some of the things that my kids will
Speaker 2: like come home and ask me or say to me
Speaker 2: that's been asked to them or said to them at school,
Speaker 2: was kind of like, damn right that that started to
Speaker 2: tell me. That started to really bar me down mentally.
Speaker 2: I started going to like I really start taking like therapy,
Speaker 2: like going to therapy. And it was a very interesting
Speaker 2: thing for me because I tried it once before, but
Speaker 2: I tried it on a very specific thing that I
Speaker 2: was dealing with, you know, like I was dealing with
Speaker 2: this specific thing, and I'm like, man, I need to
Speaker 2: get some help with that, Like, so let me try this.
Speaker 2: So that would always It's crazy because every year the
Speaker 2: league they are our league. They do these you know,
Speaker 2: where they come out, they talk about mental health. They'll
Speaker 2: introduce like the team psychologists and all these things. I
Speaker 2: always say, like a lot of the things that they
Speaker 2: do though, like the financially check the box and there's
Speaker 2: no real commitment to you should do this or you
Speaker 2: should do that on most of those things. And so
Speaker 2: but however, when the guy would come speak every year,
Speaker 2: Steph and I would kind of lead out and Stephan
Speaker 2: would share his experience or not that he's had or not,
Speaker 2: and I share my experience that I had or not,
Speaker 2: and my experience would always be man fellas, I know
Speaker 2: how I need to do this, but I'm scared, and
Speaker 2: so I'm really telling y'all this because I'm afraid of it.
Speaker 2: And if I tell y'all that i'm afraid, this may
Speaker 2: be the thing to push me to go do it right,
Speaker 2: and nope, I still be afraid and not do it.
Speaker 2: So finally I was like, you know, I have this
Speaker 2: very specific thing that I'm dealing with. Let me see
Speaker 2: where this can get me. And I started taking therapy
Speaker 2: to deal with it, and it got better for me,
Speaker 2: Like I was able to talk through it and work
Speaker 2: myself through it, and so I'm like, man, that's interesting. Nope,
Speaker 2: still not enough to get me to where I need
Speaker 2: to go because the issue that I really need to
Speaker 2: go for I think it's so deep and I'm not
Speaker 2: ready to face it yet. Because the thing with it
Speaker 2: is like when you go to therapy you can uncover
Speaker 2: some things. You can't just lead those things there. You
Speaker 2: gotta deal with those things now, so be afraid and
Speaker 2: so so afraid that I'm like, Nope, I'm still not
Speaker 2: ready to do that, and I pulled away from it.
Speaker 2: And then when once I started going through this, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I need to do that. But not
Speaker 2: only do I need to do it to deal with
Speaker 2: this thing. I'm finally out of place now to where
Speaker 2: I'm ready to confront those things that I need to
Speaker 2: confront because by the way, those things could be driving
Speaker 2: me back to this same spot I keep on and
Speaker 2: up here. And man, that that was such a great
Speaker 2: time for me because it was it was like, let's see, jeez,
Speaker 2: it was I mean, I didn't I didn't play basketball
Speaker 2: for a month and a half and I didn't like
Speaker 2: do anything basketball wise, workout, like be on the schedule
Speaker 2: for like three to four weeks, and it was great
Speaker 2: for me because it allowed me to settle back into
Speaker 2: just being Draymond, not the pressures are going to work out,
Speaker 2: not the pressures of a schedule. I gotta be there tomorrow,
Speaker 2: I gotta be here. It allowed me to lock back
Speaker 2: into me, focus on the things that I need to
Speaker 2: focus on, start the process that I needed to start,
Speaker 2: the things that I needed to work through. And man,
Speaker 2: it was such a and has been not because it continues,
Speaker 2: but it's been such a powerful space for me because
Speaker 2: and as you know, in our neighborhoods, we're taught that
Speaker 2: those things are for soft people like that if you
Speaker 2: do that, that you're weak minded and you should be
Speaker 2: just you should be able to push through these things.
Speaker 2: But the reality is these things that we're pushing through
Speaker 2: it's killing us. And yeah, I can push through it
Speaker 2: all I want, and I could be tough all I wanted,
Speaker 2: and I can look like to you that all of
Speaker 2: it is bouncing off of me and I'm just running
Speaker 2: through it. But the reality is what it's doing to
Speaker 2: me on the inside. It's like really tearing me down,
Speaker 2: and it's not allowing me to be my best self.
Speaker 2: Not only for myself, but for those that I know
Speaker 2: depend on me to be my best self. And I
Speaker 2: am also someone that even if you don't depend on
Speaker 2: me to help you be your best self, I think
Speaker 2: I have a way about me of helping you be
Speaker 2: your best self in a way that you didn't really
Speaker 2: know that you need. And I wasn't able to fulfill
Speaker 2: that in my life and that was bothering me. And
Speaker 2: so it's been an incredible journey. It's very interesting because
Speaker 2: I used to have these conversations with my mom on like, man,
Speaker 2: like why is mental health being pushed in all of
Speaker 2: these things and life? And and it's crazy because to
Speaker 2: get to that space and actually go through it, like
Speaker 2: for her to even be like, you know, for my
Speaker 2: mom to even look at it and be like huh,
Speaker 2: start asking questions, well, what about this? But how does
Speaker 2: this work? How does that work?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: And it's like wow, Like now we're talking about if
Speaker 2: I can change her, and we start talking about changing generations.
Speaker 2: That's the real change we need because in order to
Speaker 2: change the generation after us, it's also our responsibility to
Speaker 2: change the generation before us. And so that's been my
Speaker 2: That's that's like I haven't been extremely outspoken about it
Speaker 2: because to me, it's a very personal journey and it's
Speaker 2: personal to me and to those that I am close to.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I got very long win it,
Speaker 2: but I saw that to say, I'm in a great
Speaker 2: space mentally. But I worked, I didn't work. I work
Speaker 2: really hard to be here. Brother.
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing that, man, that's next level. That's really
Speaker 3: thank you, seriously. I mean, you have no idea how
Speaker 3: resident that is with so many folks, and to hear
Speaker 3: a guy like you be that honest man that that's
Speaker 3: that's going to make a real difference.
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: No problem.
Speaker 6: No, So look there's twelve for you right going into thirteen.
Speaker 6: I'm going into thirteen, going in at thirteen. So look, no,
Speaker 6: with basketball, you know you play ship till you damn
Speaker 6: near fifty for.
Speaker 2: Going.
Speaker 6: But look, one of the things you feel me though,
Speaker 6: as I just heard you speak, like you know what I
Speaker 6: mean at the end of the day. You know, I
Speaker 6: mean being you know in my position, shit retire from
Speaker 6: the league what two, three times or whatever how many
Speaker 6: times it is. When I got to that point, you know,
Speaker 6: I felt institutionalized.
Speaker 1: Right So after the first.
Speaker 6: Time I had retired, when I had this time to
Speaker 6: myself and it was on me to make a schedule.
Speaker 6: I was clueless because I was you know, I mean
Speaker 6: I'm used to you know, at this point in time,
Speaker 6: I got to do this. At this point in time,
Speaker 6: I got to get ready to go and you know,
Speaker 6: get ready for OTA's or minie camp or whatever. And yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean realistically, what I did was, you know, I
Speaker 6: mean I short changed myself, you know, by by being
Speaker 6: in the league just not preparing myself for what you
Speaker 6: know comes after that. So if it was be anything
Speaker 6: that I would give to you know, younger players, it
Speaker 6: would be don't take this time or while you're in
Speaker 6: the league to understand how to schedule a time for
Speaker 6: yourself for a day, because that.
Speaker 1: Shit was so hard for me, bruh.
Speaker 6: And when you talk about, you know, the mental aspect
Speaker 6: of everything and how that shit started to weigh on
Speaker 6: you and how it started to tear you down, Like
Speaker 6: I could not plan a day for myself. So when
Speaker 6: I went back to the Raiders, you know, I took
Speaker 6: an opportunity to learn some shit about myself in order
Speaker 6: to schedule you know, I mean times for me to
Speaker 6: do certain things or you know, I mean just just
Speaker 6: to go through the day, you know, as a person,
Speaker 6: because we've been, like I said, institutionalized. So if it's
Speaker 6: something that I would give you know, I mean that
Speaker 6: I would give to you is not to take for granted,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean the opportunity that you have right
Speaker 6: now at your fingertips for you know, when you're done.
Speaker 6: But it's something that you are doing right now that
Speaker 6: I think, you know, you you know, ten steps ahead
Speaker 6: of the game because you are actually, you know, doing
Speaker 6: something that's gonna set you up for when you're done. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean you'll fall into and you got you know,
Speaker 6: I mean you gotta you gotta like a rhythm of
Speaker 6: something that you could get into.
Speaker 1: But learning how.
Speaker 6: To schedule your day out as just a as a
Speaker 6: as a human, which I feel I feel a lot
Speaker 6: of guys who I mean retired from the game because
Speaker 6: they all believe that I'm gonna do this shit for
Speaker 6: forever and that's not the reality of what it is
Speaker 6: that we in. So, like I said, if it's something
Speaker 6: that I could get to, like, take that scheduling that
Speaker 6: you got right now and think about how you can
Speaker 6: apply that to your everyday life because that shit get
Speaker 6: you know, I mean ten times, or like my life
Speaker 6: outside of the league is so much different and so
Speaker 6: much harder because it's not that I gotta go be
Speaker 6: accountable for something that got something to do with the team,
Speaker 6: but this is something that I gota accountable for my
Speaker 6: life and growing, like all of that shit mattered, bro So,
Speaker 6: Like I said, as far as like, you know, the meeting,
Speaker 6: you know, I mean.
Speaker 1: The nutrition, Uh, the fucking workouts.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, the study time, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean the whole situation, like starting your mind to
Speaker 6: to start to plan something that you'll be able to
Speaker 6: take away from the game that you could be able
Speaker 6: to implement into your life for when you're done. And
Speaker 6: I believe that, I mean, any player that has the
Speaker 6: opportunity to play for a professional team like to take
Speaker 6: that and learn how to implement that in your everyday life, bruh.
Speaker 6: And I think like a lot of the mental issues
Speaker 6: that we have professional athletes have for after they done,
Speaker 6: I think that's how you can counteract, you know, all
Speaker 6: of the shit that's going on because you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: you know you talk about the financial literacy when they
Speaker 6: come in, I can remember going to meetings, and I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, all the young dudes, they only stay in
Speaker 6: this meeting because they know at the end of it
Speaker 6: we get to get the Madden checks.
Speaker 1: But a lot of time, you feel meate they.
Speaker 6: Given is them on you know, I mean financial literacy, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean uh uh you know, uh health things that
Speaker 6: you do to help your health. I mean, just to
Speaker 6: keep your mind right. And nobody was paying attention to
Speaker 6: that ship. And I was one of those guys that
Speaker 6: would just sit in that meeting on some ship that
Speaker 6: just like you know what I mean, I don't want
Speaker 6: I don't want to walk out. They given some information,
Speaker 6: they given some Isthm. I want to try to at
Speaker 6: least if I could sit in this meeting, you know,
Speaker 6: for an hour or two, you know, I mean to
Speaker 6: to to get something that's gonna help me in life,
Speaker 6: because I mean, I was one of them players who
Speaker 6: you know, I ain't gonna be able to do this
Speaker 6: for the for the remainder of time of my life,
Speaker 6: but when I'm gonna be able to take from it.
Speaker 6: And even though I did stand, I mean, I still
Speaker 6: felt like I short changed myself by not you know,
Speaker 6: I mean implementing all those small things that we take
Speaker 6: for granted. So it's just them little ships that I
Speaker 6: believe that uh, you know, we should really focus on
Speaker 6: and pay attention to in order to help us to
Speaker 6: get you know what I mean, outside of our mind,
Speaker 6: because one thing I know is about professional athlete level.
Speaker 6: Once we get in our head and it's not for
Speaker 6: the right reasons, then we had those situations to what
Speaker 6: we would just talk about where Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 6: smallest things like crowd noise. We know that shit on
Speaker 6: a on a day to day basis, that shit don't
Speaker 6: mean nothing. But once we get in our own hit,
Speaker 6: that shit start to affect us to a point where
Speaker 6: we don't even recognize ourselves. Yes, but man, what you
Speaker 6: just said though, bro, that shit was that shit was powerful.
Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, just being in my position,
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, at at a point in time,
Speaker 6: you know it will come to you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: me having to be vulnerable to open up, to go
Speaker 6: and sit down with somebody that you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: express my feelings in my thought process to you know,
Speaker 6: to see what I'm fucked up at. And I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, we just like you said, you was where
Speaker 6: we come from and how we look at things where
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, we looked at if you
Speaker 6: do it's a weakness, you know, I mean you soft,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, you pussy all.
Speaker 1: That type of shit.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, man, the way
Speaker 6: that you said, I'm doing great, like I can see
Speaker 6: that on your face and I can believe it, considering
Speaker 6: when you talk to somebody in a.
Speaker 1: Bullshit lord, no, no, I'm doing.
Speaker 6: Good type shit and in reality they got a motherfucking
Speaker 6: costco list of shit that they dealing with that got
Speaker 6: them fucked up. You feel me so, man, Yeah, realistic,
Speaker 6: Like I appreciate you saying that shit because I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, it put me in a state of mind where, like,
Speaker 6: you know what, maybe this is something that I want
Speaker 6: to try though you feel me so helly.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, bro, some solid shit, I believe.
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it, man, And I think you know,
Speaker 2: one of the things you'll find is like you end
Speaker 2: up talking yourself through your issue like it is to
Speaker 2: have that soundboard to give you some guidance to help
Speaker 2: guys you're here. And I think one of the funnest, wonderful,
Speaker 2: funnest things exercises that I've done in my life. Like,
Speaker 2: we go through all these exercises, and you know, whether
Speaker 2: it's in basketball exercises, whether it's in school exercise, and
Speaker 2: whether it's at your job or my job, these exercises
Speaker 2: that we have to go through. One of the best
Speaker 2: exercises that I've ever done in my life was like
Speaker 2: tracing something back through my life because ay, it takes
Speaker 2: it like and again, you have to be prepared for
Speaker 2: it because it can take you through some places that
Speaker 2: you like, you're smile as big as here, right, like wow,
Speaker 2: it just took me back to that moment like that
Speaker 2: was incredible. But it can also take you to a
Speaker 2: moment that you didn't love. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: That was like real dark for you. But that's a
Speaker 2: part of it, you know what I'm saying. That's a
Speaker 2: part of getting back to the root of this problem.
Speaker 2: So many things, Like it's no different than things that
Speaker 2: we deal in America like or things that you deal
Speaker 2: with over here. If I just fix what looks like
Speaker 2: the issue on the surface, there's still a problem under
Speaker 2: neath that's going to eventually If if there's mold up
Speaker 2: here and I take that thing off and replace something,
Speaker 2: replace it with a new cap because the new cap
Speaker 2: isn't molded. But if the mode is underneath the top cap, yeah,
Speaker 2: then the top cap just the new one just molds.
Speaker 7: It sounds like Gavin's day job, Draymond.
Speaker 1: A tough day job.
Speaker 7: It sounds like your day job.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think doing that work, man, I
Speaker 2: think you will find it enjoyable whise you work through it.
Speaker 2: But like I said, not to be like some like
Speaker 2: I'm this advocate. It's just my personal journey and I'm
Speaker 2: enjoying my journey.
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you sharing that with.
Speaker 2: This big deal brother.
Speaker 4: Hey d let me ask you question, and I say this,
Speaker 4: You're so talented, bro. You got You've got so many
Speaker 4: things you can do in your post career. Obviously got
Speaker 4: a huge media career. You could go to the team side,
Speaker 4: to be an ownership in someplace and all that. Where
Speaker 4: do you see yourself in ten years Because you've got
Speaker 4: so many things in front of you can do. That's
Speaker 4: really cool. But I mean other than the media and
Speaker 4: owning a team or being a GM somewhere whatever it
Speaker 4: may be, where do you see yourself in ten years
Speaker 4: from now?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, that's that's an interesting one. I think, uh, well,
Speaker 2: Number one, I think media as we've known it, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't like it's going to change, and I want to
Speaker 2: spearhead that change. I think media as we've seen it
Speaker 2: on a daily for the last twenty years, nothing lasts forever.
Speaker 2: And I think a big change in media is coming.
Speaker 2: And like a side of social obviously social media has changed,
Speaker 2: but I think a big, a big change is coming
Speaker 2: in media, sports media, and I want to be a
Speaker 2: leader of an usher and that change in also, I
Speaker 2: would love to I would love to be a part
Speaker 2: owner of a sports team. And I think for me,
Speaker 2: I don't just like I've seen the part owner of
Speaker 2: a sports team thing like if I want to be
Speaker 2: a part owner of a sports team, I want to.
Speaker 2: The reason I want to do that is because a
Speaker 2: I see something special in that team and that organization
Speaker 2: and that owner of something. But more importantly, I see
Speaker 2: something that I can bring to that situation that can
Speaker 2: help that situation go further. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: the guy that's just like, oh, you can plant some money,
Speaker 2: like like that's great, and like we're all looking for
Speaker 2: great investments and there's no better investments and sports teams
Speaker 2: right now, like I want to help win, Like sports
Speaker 2: is fun, but there's nothing like winning in sports, like
Speaker 2: like you talk about, you talk about like a feeling
Speaker 2: that you like that is hard to reproduce through anything else.
Speaker 2: Winning in sports there's no better feeling. And so for me,
Speaker 2: if absolutely so for me, if I can be involved
Speaker 2: in team ownership, but involved in a way that I
Speaker 2: can help usher in some things from my perspective that
Speaker 2: I think can help win, that I'd love to do that.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I've been in it now for
Speaker 2: thirteen years, I think I know the difference in being
Speaker 2: someone that can help win and being an owner that
Speaker 2: everybody's like, yo, get the hell away from you, like
Speaker 2: because because we run into that too. And I think
Speaker 2: I can easily find a balance in that because I've
Speaker 2: been on the other side of it, like I've been
Speaker 2: one of those players that's like somebody see the owner
Speaker 2: and their team coming, like yo, if you don't keep
Speaker 2: him as far away from me as you possibly can.
Speaker 4: And the scary thing, Draymond, as you know, is that
Speaker 4: there's more owners that you want to run away from
Speaker 4: the than go to, which is scary.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Real ship though, like you you you are like one
Speaker 6: of the one of the faces of the new the
Speaker 6: new media type ship though, right and what you got
Speaker 6: going on and what you've proven that you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: you could be successful in real talk, you can give
Speaker 6: my uh you could give Batman some some uh some
Speaker 6: advice because you feel me like real talk like you
Speaker 6: you you you in the game, you feel what I'm
Speaker 6: talking about.
Speaker 1: You active in the game, and you got a show though.
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm talking about Batman active governor right now?
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm talking about, Like when this motherfucker
Speaker 6: get up out of here, he gotta go, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, back to the UH State captain and
Speaker 6: he gotta go get back into UH governor mode. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about. But he got it, he
Speaker 6: got it, He got a pocket ask that he rockets
Speaker 6: lab right now, so realistically, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: not just even from just the sports aspect, but I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, dog being a governor, politician and ship any
Speaker 6: active right now, like I don't know, I mean, you
Speaker 6: showed that it can be done. And now I don't
Speaker 6: know if you could say following the footstep.
Speaker 1: But you could give you could give brus.
Speaker 6: Someism on how you know what I mean, how this
Speaker 6: ship can really work? Like what would you what would
Speaker 6: you tell Batman as far as like being active and
Speaker 6: what you got going on and then also.
Speaker 1: Having a platform to go.
Speaker 6: And speak, you know, I mean to the to the
Speaker 6: to the public about what's really going on and how
Speaker 6: to balance that and how to actually make that ship successful.
Speaker 1: You really that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact.
Speaker 3: And winning in politics ain't bad. It ain't just sports.
Speaker 2: That's a fact. Went in in general is one of
Speaker 2: the better feelings. Sports is just what I do. But no,
Speaker 2: I think what I will say is this, Listen, we
Speaker 2: understand that when we put ourselves, when we put ourselves
Speaker 2: out here like this, and by the way, I respect
Speaker 2: you obviously you know I've been had the utmost respect
Speaker 2: for you, but I respect you for putting yourself out
Speaker 2: like this. It's it's the exact reason why I've appreciated
Speaker 2: living in the state where you're the governor is because
Speaker 2: you haven't heard from anything and anything that's going on.
Speaker 2: You've been standing on the front lines and you've put
Speaker 2: yourself out there. And right now is like I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know the numbers, but my guess is that
Speaker 2: you're our first governor to do a podcast, and if not,
Speaker 2: you're you're you're by far the biggest to do it.
Speaker 2: So when I look at that, like, to push yourself
Speaker 2: out there in that manner, to me is admirable. And
Speaker 2: the reason that it's admirable is because most people a
Speaker 2: won't do it. But number two, when putting yourself out
Speaker 2: there to where someone could potentially pick at it, to
Speaker 2: where someone can potentially use it to try to tear
Speaker 2: you down. When doing something like that, for as big
Speaker 2: as the risk is, as big as the reward is,
Speaker 2: and you know so for you to put yourself out there,
Speaker 2: like the platform that you guys are going to build
Speaker 2: and have, there won't be a stronger platform than that.
Speaker 2: You know why, because I know exactly where to go
Speaker 2: to hear what you have to say, and that platform
Speaker 2: becomes as important as ever and you do whatever it
Speaker 2: is that you want to do with that platform, and
Speaker 2: for you and everything that you've done since I've known you,
Speaker 2: you're going to do good with that platform. People will
Speaker 2: tear it down. Like I said before, Oh you're the governor,
Speaker 2: You're not worried about this. You're not doing that thing.
Speaker 2: There's a crisis going on over here. You should be
Speaker 2: doing that. And it's like, well, quite frankly, have a life.
Speaker 2: That is my job. I also have a team that
Speaker 2: even if I'm sitting here doing my podcast, I have
Speaker 2: a team that's working somebody. It's like someone's working, like
Speaker 2: I'm just out here sitting down doing a pot and
Speaker 2: nothing's going on. Also, am not going to look at
Speaker 2: this sheet of paper for twenty four hours a day
Speaker 2: or look at this screen for twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 2: And sort of thing that I would just say most
Speaker 2: is like, embrace, embrace the good in it, embrace the
Speaker 2: failures because you're gonna say something that everybody's going to
Speaker 2: go crazy about. But by the way, you're going to
Speaker 2: say way more good things that everybody go crazy about
Speaker 2: the bad. But none of us say all great things.
Speaker 2: So the one thing we say everybody don't try to
Speaker 2: pounce on it. And the only thing I would say
Speaker 2: about those times is like, in the good in the bad,
Speaker 2: stand on each one of them. And I know you've
Speaker 2: done that in your career and how you've built to
Speaker 2: this point. But when it goes good. I'm gonna stand
Speaker 2: right here in this pocket and I'm gonna appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna know that although it's going good, i
Speaker 2: gotta keep working and when it goes bad, I'm a
Speaker 2: stand in this pocket, appreciate it and work to make
Speaker 2: it better. Because when you're speaking this much, it's only
Speaker 2: a certain amount of time that you have before you
Speaker 2: say something that someone don't like. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 2: if you're absolutely great, fifty percent of the people appreciate
Speaker 2: what you say, if you're the absolute best. So I
Speaker 2: would just say, embrace it, stand on it, embrace the platform,
Speaker 2: dive into the platform, because the platform is powerful. The
Speaker 2: platform creates change, and that's what we're out here to
Speaker 2: do in order and to build a platform that can
Speaker 2: do that. It's special.
Speaker 3: Appreciate this conversation has been special. I've already fed up
Speaker 3: with said, what the hell you didn't want me to say?
Speaker 3: Braggadocius Jesus, Yeah, that ain't even right. But you know what,
Speaker 3: you know what is right? Everything about you, Draymond Man Uh,
Speaker 3: your leadership. You're all about accountability, you take responses. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's something we love about marshawn As well, you guys
Speaker 3: are just remarkably authentic people.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And this has been a hell of a conversation, illuminating
Speaker 3: and insightful. And I'll tell you what that is deeply
Speaker 3: part of my day job as well, be having the
Speaker 3: gift of a platform where we can have these real
Speaker 3: and raw conversations uh and check each other and all
Speaker 3: the bs that's out there. So we appreciate you being
Speaker 3: here and uh and Marshawn, I appreciate Uh. I appreciate
Speaker 3: how you guys engaged and elevated this conversation a whole
Speaker 3: other level.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: No, Draymond, we love you man. Like I said, I
Speaker 4: got one question for you, Dreymon. I remember last question
Speaker 4: back in two thousand and eight fire you fired your
Speaker 4: first aid. You just remember and I remember Lamar because
Speaker 4: I remember Lamar coming to me and saying, hey, Draymond's
Speaker 4: going to leave his guys, and what do you think?
Speaker 4: And and and correct me if I'm wrong, If you
Speaker 4: say the wrong thing, I'm not gonna have a good day.
Speaker 4: Did I have a chance to represent even those football
Speaker 4: guy if I came at you?
Speaker 2: Of course you had, Oh God, of course you had.
Speaker 2: You You were you were, you were so caught up
Speaker 2: in Marshaan, Eric Kendricks and Uh, all of these guys.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get the time of day.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what they had me on
Speaker 1: the whole time.
Speaker 7: That is that what this whole damn thing was about,
Speaker 7: all about men.
Speaker 6: Trying to put his his envelope in the in the.
Speaker 7: Hand there you know dream.
Speaker 4: We love you, bro, We love you man, and have
Speaker 4: a great rest of summer and eight season next year
Speaker 4: and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2: All right. I appreciate y'all fellas, Thank y'all for having
Speaker 2: me on.
Speaker 6: Okay, God, man, make sure you tell moms what's handed.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit it from my new jack too.
Speaker 2: Bro. Okay, I bet that I'll let it up. Oh God,
Speaker 2: all right, appreciate y'all. It's great, brother, Thank you, all right,
Speaker 2: thank you, No problem.