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Speaker 1: You got Marshaw, Basmall, Lynch.

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Speaker 3: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin knew someone and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: To be.

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Speaker 1: Marshawn held On? Gavin, why the fuck you ain't running

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Speaker 1: for president? Andre No, we're gonna get to that. I

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Speaker 3: Did anything happen this weekend? Anything happened?

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Speaker 1: Hey, forty eight hours, Marshall, something happened. Something happened.

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Speaker 3: What are you, by the way, what have you guys

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Speaker 1: Doug?

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Speaker 3: What the hell have you been up to?

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Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you about my week Avin. I've

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Speaker 4: is watching my daughter's volleyball tournament. Her most of Beach,

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Speaker 4: by the way, beautiful part of California, her most of

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Speaker 5: Fantastic that.

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Speaker 4: I just did a huge contract for a client, Kenny

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Speaker 5: I just love Kenny.

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Speaker 1: You're love Kenny.

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Speaker 5: We love Kenny.

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Speaker 4: Kids foot in New York for about a four hour meeting.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Jet Blue Mint laid down airlines, which is great.

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Speaker 4: So I had a few cocktails in that as well.

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Speaker 4: And I just got back Marshawn, and you've been doing

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Speaker 6: And I'm being tripping and trying to figure out why saying,

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Speaker 6: my boy Batman running for motherfucking president. That's what I've

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I'll tell you what though, let me tell

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Speaker 5: So, Gavin, how's your week going, Gavin?

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Speaker 3: Everything's great, everything, this is normal.

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Speaker 1: Typically couldn't be what I said, couldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be? I mean because in my lifetime, I don't

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Speaker 3: How old am I?

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Speaker 1: I ain't seen no shit like that?

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Speaker 6: And then because it make it a little bit more spicy,

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Speaker 3: Though, by the way, I wasn't sitting down when I

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Speaker 3: Four actually, and I'm walking and I'm like, whoa. And

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Speaker 6: Don't nobody like, you know, give you a little hey,

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Speaker 3: This has got thirty seconds. This is gonna hit nothing.

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Speaker 1: No head to no.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that gang should work. I just

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Speaker 6: I fucked with you, so we locked in like this,

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Speaker 4: So, Gavin, did you talk to Biden on Sunday? Did

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Speaker 3: I felt Now I feel even worse because the phone

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Speaker 6: So who writing y'all script? Because you know, they said

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Speaker 6: the NFL got a script. So I'm pretty sure in

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Speaker 6: the politics that y'all got a script too. So how

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Speaker 6: do this script play out?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: This script is written by the American people, Marshaun, This

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Speaker 6: Am I considered the American citizen. I changed my mind

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Speaker 6: all the motherfucking time. Sometimes I want to achieve Mrga.

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Speaker 6: Then I might want some some tacos where you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an easy choice. It's you don't get that.

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Speaker 3: It's not thirty one flavors, buddy. This a binary choice.

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Speaker 3: You got the guy who wants to bring us back

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Speaker 3: to a pre nineteen sixties world, or you got Kama

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Speaker 3: Harrison's just lighting it up right now. Lighting And by

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Speaker 3: right now. He was not prepared for this to happen,

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Speaker 3: and he's flat footed. I know you don't want to

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Speaker 6: I just say, I know, Look, they really just got

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Speaker 1: You feel me. That wasn't right. You feel me.

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Speaker 6: Blood was duck down and hell bounced up like terror,

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Speaker 6: then they started playing some fifty behind many man wish

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Speaker 6: You feel me that I don't know what I'm talking.

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Speaker 6: I'm just chilling.

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Speaker 1: Is shit. But that was another right.

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Speaker 3: Nothing about that was right. Nothing was about about that

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Speaker 3: was right. Nothing, Hey, Gavin, that I find real quick.

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Speaker 4: So I was on a plane. I've been watching the

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Speaker 4: CNN and MSNBC. First of all, this jd Vance guy.

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Speaker 4: This guy is dangerous. Man.

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Speaker 5: This guy's a bad.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Doug.

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Speaker 3: I mean this, I think I think if you're Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: He double won versus stupid, especially with.

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Speaker 3: Commelin now in there. They weren't prepared. He's flat footed.

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Speaker 3: He didn't even sound like himself. These guys. I mean

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Speaker 3: It's nothing about that was right. And I reached out

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Speaker 3: with so much anxiety and doubt about will he or

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Speaker 3: will he not continue to stand the race again with Grace.

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Speaker 3: I just I want, I hope we have a chance

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Speaker 3: to focus on more on on Joe Biden. But it's changed.

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Speaker 6: I'm not the sharpest, I won't even you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm a cool individual.

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Speaker 6: You feel me, y'all kick back and you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean our politic like we're doing right now, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 6: But Gavin, I've seen you in the public, bro. You

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Speaker 6: my boy. But this you feel me? This is a president,

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Speaker 6: something like that transpired?

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Speaker 3: Or that the assassination?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that kind of gotta motherfucker scratching is dumb, Like

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Speaker 3: By the way, no excuse people sit on.

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Speaker 6: In a driveway for days, weeks at a time and

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Speaker 3: And we could talk about his weapon of choice and

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Speaker 3: the ease availability across the country that weapon of choice.

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Speaker 3: But no, Just so so you know that the head

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Speaker 3: the hell can you let this happen?

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: There's no margin for error, there's no excuse for that.

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Speaker 3: And it sobered everybody up and and you know, look again,

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Speaker 3: but it also just proves everything just flipped. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: what up until Trump speaks.

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Speaker 1: Heaven you be saying on him work R and C.

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Speaker 3: Talking about you got to edge AR fifteen, the damn

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Speaker 3: weapon of choice. Hey, that's what I was referring to.

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Speaker 2: That ain't right.

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Speaker 3: Now you're paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, okay, look you see my look, I'm paying attention.

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Speaker 2: It ain't right.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about gun safety another time. Had a

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Speaker 3: huge issue. I'd under state issue. By the way, you

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Speaker 3: County prosecutor is going to prosecute the case.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if she prosecuted my daddy.

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Speaker 3: Person of conviction running against a guy with four point

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Speaker 3: thirty four convictions. This is a moment American history has

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Speaker 5: Marksh On No Gavin. We're fired up. Bro.

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Speaker 4: Look here's the deal. We're fired up. We're beyond her.

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Speaker 4: We're we got to get that dude out of there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we do a hell of an interview. Yes, Draymond Green.

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Speaker 3: Do you know why it's powerful and informative? You listen,

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Speaker 4: Hey, gop, here's the true story. Marshaun might remember this.

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Speaker 4: We want to welcome the four time NBA champ. We'll

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Speaker 4: One of a great father, great husband, great person. Draymond Green.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to politicing and also Draymond Green with the Draymond

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Speaker 7: Best podcasts in the country.

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Speaker 2: Legit.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for joinings, Draymond.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it absolutely no.

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Speaker 2: I thank you all for having me on. I'm super

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how the hell, I mean, what was

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, but I guess the difference for you is

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Speaker 2: And I just look at it like, well, I've been

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Speaker 2: So what I'll tell you, Gavin is this, you get ready,

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Speaker 2: going to say you're not running the state, You're not

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Speaker 2: doing your job, we need a new governor. How is

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Speaker 2: he sitting? He's doing to all the clips? Man, Oh

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Speaker 2: listen coming Guess what? And quite frankly, one hour out

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Speaker 1: For some like, uh, hey, shut the fuck up, though,

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what That's what happened in telling you, you

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Speaker 4: Hey man, well Draymond, let me tell you. Let me

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Speaker 4: and six. My client Lamar Woodley saganaw sag nasty, right, Marshaan.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Marshan loves Sagonaw Draymond.

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Speaker 6: I think that's exactly what you're doing. You're not living

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Speaker 6: And then what I heard was common sense ain't coming.

440
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 6: But from my understanding, it's like, why would I live

441
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 6: to to get you to accept me?

442
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: Bro?

443
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 1: Or get you to accept me, because at the end.

444
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 6: Of the day, when that motherfucker, like I said, when

445
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 6: that motherfucker drop is, it's cookies. So I'm gonna enjoy

446
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 6: this motherfucker while I'm living. And you know what, I

447
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 6: love to be me. I love that ship.

448
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 8: Yes you do that, so you know you be in

449
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 8: the cut, you know what I mean, peeping you and

450
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 8: ship and you know, I mean, I hear a lot

451
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 8: of people with a lot of foul shit to say

452
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 8: about you and all the ship, and I'm just like, damn,

453
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 8: you feel me, Like at the end today, how they

454
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 8: rocking or you know their opinions and now.

455
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 6: That you know, social media has gave the the platform

456
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 6: to anybody, uh to have their opinion to speak on

457
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, what they feel or you

458
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 6: know what I mean, and motherfuckers take that shit to heart.

459
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 6: But you know what I mean when I look at

460
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 6: it and I'm like, damn, look at my son. Don't

461
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 6: give a fuck about what nobody. He lived his life

462
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 6: the way that he's going to like, you know, I mean,

463
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 6: for any for any young athlete, you know, I mean

464
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 6: coming up in the game, you feel athlete, for any

465
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 6: young person coming up, like just to be comfortable and

466
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 6: accept who you are, Like it's no feeling more satisfied

467
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 6: than looking in the mirror. And just like damn bro

468
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 6: like I love you like when I look in the

469
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 6: mirror and I love you like that's a great ass

470
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 6: feeling it, you know what I mean. I don't need

471
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 6: no acceptance from no other person to make me feel love.

472
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 6: Now if you if you love me and you give

473
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 6: me love, now that's extra and that's off the strip.

474
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 6: But you know that love from yourself, that ship is

475
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 6: so genuine, you know what I mean. And I and

476
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 6: I see and I see that you got that and

477
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 6: that ship is it you know, I mean, it's a

478
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 6: proud thing. And then like you said, you know, I

479
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 6: mean to you know, to a too understanding. Uh, young

480
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 6: women are mothers, like I just know for a fact,

481
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 6: like you know, I mean raising boys in America. You

482
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 6: feel me like that ship is so important instelling us

483
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 6: and I believe you know, like you said, they did

484
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 6: a great ass job doing that.

485
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: You fear me.

486
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: Man, you got your mom's come on here and show

487
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: her fake man.

488
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Take.

489
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 7: Let me ask a question.

490
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: As you know, I've been an Asian thirty years now,

491
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: and you preach these young kids about things and whatnot.

492
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 4: You're a hall of famer. Marshawn's gonna be a Hall

493
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 4: of famer. What if you had a would all over again,

494
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 4: forget about like eating food right and working out.

495
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 7: More and sleep and whatnot.

496
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: What would you done differently or thought differently in terms

497
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: of whether it be family, friends, businesses, whatever it may be,

498
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 4: if you could do it, if you could get drafted again.

499
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 6: Tomorrow, play football, by the way, by the way you want.

500
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: Draymond loves football, now, trust me, he might be a

501
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: tight end or d ended.

502
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 7: He could have been a d end this league.

503
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: I absolutely loved football. I was a pretty good den.

504
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: I think I was better at d n than I

505
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: was at tight end, though I was a decent tight

506
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: end in my day, but I stopped earlier. I stopped

507
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: after freshman year. I was going through a Grosberg, a

508
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: seven inch Grossberger, over the course of like three and

509
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: a half months. But I had no idea. So after

510
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: football season, my knees were hurting so bad. I could

511
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: barely run up and down the court for basketball. And

512
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm like, oh my god, they were

513
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: chopping me down so bad. My knees from basketball. I

514
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: got to stop. I went from five to eleven to

515
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: this height that I am today from in between September.

516
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: But you figure no November of my well, basketball season

517
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: started in December, so you figure November of two thousand

518
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 2: and four. By March two thousand and five, I was

519
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: this hype from five eleven and so I was having

520
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: crazy knee issues and I stopped. Nonetheless, I got a

521
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: lot of respect for football players, and as tough as

522
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: I think I am, I don't know if I'm not tough.

523
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 6: Because even if you ask any of it, if you

524
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 6: ask any Hoopers right now, that guess that man Draymond

525
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 6: played hoops like a football player. And you feel me.

526
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 6: We out there, you feel me. I probably need you.

527
00:24:53,280 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 6: Probably every NFL player favorite Hooper like how they used

528
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 6: to fight like sh taking the brush, bruh, slide on

529
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 6: your ass on the hoop court for show. You feel

530
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 6: straight up like you ain't. Don't come in here with

531
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 6: none of that weak ass ship. Bro, Don't you feel

532
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 6: me because it ain't that type of time over here.

533
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: Bro.

534
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 6: If you're gonna come in here, you gotta come in

535
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 6: here the right way, bro, And don't be hella soft

536
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 6: because I'm gonna tune your ass up quick.

537
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: You feel me.

538
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 6: But the thing is what I what I like about

539
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 6: it is the way that you play the game.

540
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: Bro.

541
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: I see you. You you you.

542
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 6: Putting that to how you live your life. You feel

543
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 6: what I'm saying you. You go hard, you know what

544
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 6: I mean with the family. You feel me though, You

545
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 6: go hard with that ship and uh you know your

546
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 6: business ventures and and like realistic, like you the same

547
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 6: that you is on the court, that you is, you

548
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 6: feel me dot and your every day walk in life.

549
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 6: And I mean that ship show, bro, that ship showing.

550
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna be proud though you feel me. I mean,

551
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 6: we ain't too too far off an age and like

552
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 6: you know, Doug was you know what i mean, always

553
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 6: strolling down memory lane. You know I'm talking about memory

554
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 6: doing sag now. You you know you was a youngster,

555
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 6: Lamar like yeah, this more and you feed me Lamar

556
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 6: and my dog. You feel me though, but you know

557
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 6: what I mean. As soon as we done click, oh,

558
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 6: we was on. We was rocking like yeah, breath. And

559
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 6: then when you get drafted to the UH, I mean

560
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 6: you come to the UH, to the Warriors, you feel

561
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 6: me like, oh yeah, man, oh you feel me and

562
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 6: then you feel me like you know that's some real

563
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 6: ship though, Like you feel me though, a lot of

564
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 6: people getting into a position where you know, you know,

565
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 6: they go to the league and then you know, you

566
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 6: know they might you know, forget their roots or whatever.

567
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 6: You was popping out to the hood. You feel what

568
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 6: I'm saying though, you pull up in the ice on me.

569
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 6: We was talking about uh about when I had came

570
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 6: back to the writers Nigga, we did the little barber

571
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 6: on due.

572
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: You feel me though, And I remember my little cousin

573
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: just sitting there.

574
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 6: Stuck like like, yeah, don't say what's up, little cut

575
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 6: He showed me that picture every time I pull up

576
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 6: on you. But I'm like, you feel what I'm saying though,

577
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 6: Like you pop out to the hood, like, man, what's handed.

578
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it like it like I'm blue or

579
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 6: find it or whatever, but I mean, you know, just

580
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 6: to me, it was like you come back to where

581
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 6: you feel comfortable.

582
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Well, I've always I've always told everybody like for me,

583
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: I never like if you would have asked me when

584
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: I when I was going through the draft process, like

585
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm a kid from sagon on Michigan, went to Michigan State,

586
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: Like first twenty two years of my life. I never

587
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: left the state of Michigan. Obviously the trial, but I

588
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: was in the state of Michigan for tweeny two years.

589
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: If you would have asked me, like any team where

590
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: I was wanting to get drafted, the last place, the

591
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: absolute last place I would have told you was I

592
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: don't think I'm going to get drafted anywhere in the

593
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: state of California. Like the state of California to me,

594
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: sound is just so far away from home, like so

595
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 2: far out of reach. And I'm like, I don't think

596
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: I would get drafted to the state of California. Now

597
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 2: not only do I get drafted to the state of California,

598
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: but you start talking about like destiny and like how

599
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: your life shape up. But I get drafted to the

600
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors in Oakland, California. I get to Oakland,

601
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a sacond.

602
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: Off away from home.

603
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: My boy, I get there and I'm like, man, I

604
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: feel like I'm at home. I'm comfortable right, like I

605
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: can be me, like this is who I am to

606
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: my core, Like it's cool being me. Oakland understood me,

607
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like the city of Oakland

608
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: understand me. Like it's great. And when I look at

609
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: how it all played out, like for me to be

610
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: drafted to that place, like I couldn't have asked for

611
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: a better situation. Obviously the way basketball played that we

612
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: all know. But for me to be drafted to that

613
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: particular place at that time in my life, it's set

614
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: me up for success because they set me up to

615
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: be exactly who I've been, exactly who I am, and

616
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: no matter what, nobody could change that. And to do

617
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: it in a place like that, it just gave me

618
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: more comfortable.

619
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 7: Golden State.

620
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Did you hear that?

621
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 7: The Golden State?

622
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to go back a little bit of

623
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: Marshawn was saying just about being yourself, be authentic. But

624
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: you commented about, you know when you tried that first

625
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: podcast and you were trying to be something you're not.

626
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: You know, we're just just societally dealing with so much

627
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: stress and anxiety. People put a mask on and their

628
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: face grows into it, meaning they become how people think

629
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: they should behave It's so resonant what Marshaun was just

630
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: saying about being your authentic self and just bringing that

631
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: every day and loving on yourself, but not in a

632
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: sort of you know, not in a way that's braggadocious,

633
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: not a way that it's narcissistic, but just bringing truly

634
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: yourself in everything you do.

635
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: Is that I mean?

636
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: Does that resonate with you?

637
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: What what Marshall just said?

638
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: You can't say brag?

639
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: What the hell I said?

640
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't even know what.

641
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 7: Tells me what I can't say?

642
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: Man?

643
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: Do you see how this is going? I can't even

644
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: like I got another word I can't say as well,

645
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: which we we'll talk about later. But but but seriously,

646
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: is that I mean?

647
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: Is it?

648
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: Does that resonate with you? Is that something that I mean?

649
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: Is that I mean?

650
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: Is that true? I mean?

651
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: Is is he not one?

652
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: No? It's one? And I can you know, I can

653
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: trace back in my life to exactly where that came from.

654
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: Any time I ever did something wrong, no matter what

655
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: it was. It could be from jumping off the balance

656
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: of the Porsche to get in trouble in school to

657
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: getting kicked out of the recreation center, like, no matter

658
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: what it would be, my mom will say one thing,

659
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: to be a leader. Be a leader, Be a leader.

660
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: Are you being a follower? Be a leader? Be a leader,

661
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: Be a leader. That's all I ever heard. And when

662
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: she was saying, She's like, God, like, stop telling me

663
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: the same thing over and over, like, but does that

664
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: have to do with anything? But what she was teaching

665
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: me was that very thing of being comfortable, like lead,

666
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: be comfortable with who you are. Someone will follow you

667
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: if you just lead. You don't have to follow those

668
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: dumb things because that's not who you are, Like I

669
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: know the kid that I'm raising, like, that's not who

670
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: you are, and that hearing that on a daily every

671
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: single day, like I had no choice but to be

672
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: who I am because the moment that I wasn't it's like, no,

673
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: that's not you, Like I know who you are, that

674
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: isn't you? Right, and growing And as I as I

675
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: continued to grow and understand to understand what she was saying,

676
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: then it all started to come together for me. But

677
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: then you go through so many trials and different things

678
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: for being who you are because someone wants you to conform,

679
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: someone wants you to be there. And I was just say, like,

680
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm much better at being mean

681
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: than i'd be at trying to be someone else, Like

682
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: I think I do a much better job of being

683
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: exactly who I am than I could ever do being.

684
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: Somethe So hold on, hey, hey, that ain't correct me

685
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 6: if I'm wrong. You had you had some you had

686
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 6: to conform to. Though at the same time though, because

687
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 6: from what I know that you didn't speak on is

688
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: when you was getting into that ship, you know you

689
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 6: had something answer to and that was one of them

690
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 6: ass whoopings from Mama Dad that I'm what I'm damn

691
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 6: there pushing fouty that you feel me. I still got

692
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 6: that fear of my mama when she you fear me,

693
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 6: don't get that tone in that voice, like I don't

694
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 6: give a fuck how old you is?

695
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: You hear that tone in my voice, you.

696
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 6: Know it's like, oh yeah, okay, I bet I better

697
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: straighten my ship up. You feel me though, moms Mom's

698
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 6: had that. You feel me though they pumped that uh

699
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 6: that fearing you that that make your ass straight nothing?

700
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: Yep, you know what I mean that.

701
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm still to this day, Still, to this day, like

702
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I tell people all the time, to this day, I

703
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: am terrified of my Like it does not matter, There's

704
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: nothing that can change that like, no matter what it is,

705
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: did she say to me like still to this very day,

706
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: like I still live my life. She actually just walked

707
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: in here. I still live my life based on like

708
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: what I think she's gonna say if I do this

709
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: like that she is, Mama, what's up? Like that's gathering, that's.

710
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 5: Dub Marshan's loving on you.

711
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: Look.

712
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 6: I got my toll sign over there, and then I

713
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 6: got my two white kids over here. So yeah, I

714
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 6: mean I wasn't you know, Papa was a rolling stone.

715
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm just doing the introducing, you know

716
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 6: what I mean. You know, got kids over there, got

717
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 6: kids over here, and.

718
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring them all together.

719
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 6: I'm trying to grow into that father figure that you

720
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 6: know I should have been, you know, back then.

721
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: But you know it's all coming together now.

722
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: Hey, Draymond, let me ask you a question that I

723
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: think a lot of people don't know the whole story too.

724
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 4: So going back to sixteen Cleveland, you get kicked out, okay,

725
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: coming back to the town for the game, and you

726
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: end up obviously can't go to the game, and you

727
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: end up with Bob Myers, our great friend and your

728
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: former GM and family at the suite at the coliseum.

729
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 4: So what I want to know is how did more

730
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 4: Shawn get there? And if that whole game was was

731
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: filmed in the audio tape, how how great an epic

732
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: moment would that tape be for to play back twenty

733
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 4: thirty years from now in terms of what you guys

734
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: were talking about.

735
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Doug, if I only knew what I knew today back then,

736
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: like there should have been cameras rolling because that footage

737
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: was absolutely insane. So I get kicked out, I get

738
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: kicked out of the game. Well, I don't get kicked

739
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: out of the game. Quite frankly, I don't get kicked

740
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: out because I didn't make contacts, so you couldn't kick

741
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: me out. Whatever. I didn't get suspended for a game

742
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: for a punch that didn't land, but whatever, you know,

743
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: we come back, we come back to Oakland and I

744
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: can't play. I can't be at the arena. However, it's

745
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: three to one, so I'm like, well, at the time,

746
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm living in I'm living in Berkeley Hills at the time,

747
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: and so I can't make it from home to the

748
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: arena where we went in this championship. So I'm like,

749
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: I need to be close by the A's were having

750
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: a game. Bob was like, listen, you could watch the

751
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: game at the A Stadium in the suite. I'm like, oh,

752
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: that's great. I had on all black, I had my route,

753
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: my route that I was taking through the arena down.

754
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: I was going to walk right past the cast while

755
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: they was crying and my're all black. And it never happened.

756
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: But so fast forward Bob, Bob sits in the suite

757
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: with me, and Marshawn comes to sitting in the suite

758
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: the entire time. He called me and he's like, Yo,

759
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: where are you. Where are you watching the game? Man?

760
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm watching the games at the Age at

761
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: the stadium next door at the Age baseball game. He

762
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: came and watched it with me. And again, if we

763
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: could have had a tape roller, a camera roller during

764
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: that time, I mean, what an amazing time like footage

765
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: that could have been captured. Obviously I wish we would

766
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: have won, But man, I look back on those times

767
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: now and like you remember those people like I remember

768
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: them being there with me. I can tell you everybody

769
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: who was sitting in that in that sweet because it

770
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: was such like a like we had these turning points

771
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: of life, you know, like these moments where you can

772
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: turn to it like that moment did this and like

773
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: that was one of those huge moments.

774
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: And was and this was on the heels of Marshawn

775
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 4: not getting the ball the Super Bowl before. Right, so

776
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: he's dealing what he dealt with you before. Now you're

777
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: sitting there at the stadium going holy shit whatever, and

778
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: so you guys are commiserating together. Be right, That footage

779
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: and would have been some of the most iconic stuff

780
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: of all time.

781
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 2: One things for certain, Dug Hill, the real I ain't

782
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: want them real. We went too real to be the

783
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP and d back to back the real

784
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: challenging man too real ones like that it's m vps

785
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: and easily, Oh it's a little challenge.

786
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: You said it's rigged.

787
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Was it rigged?

788
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 3: You think it's so set?

789
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: I would would I would never say it's rigged because

790
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't believe it's rigged. I think the integrity, you know,

791
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate the integrity that the NBA does hold in

792
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: the NFL, but I but I do think, like as

793
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: human beings, like these aren't machines making these decisions, right,

794
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: so it's not it's not. No decision ever made in

795
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: NBA history, in NFL history is black and white, right,

796
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: because you can't go to a rude book and say,

797
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: if Draymond gets into a fight, he's suspended for X

798
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: amount of games. There is no rude there is no number.

799
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: That number is then decided by human beings, right, And

800
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: so I don't think it's rigged, and just doing this

801
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: for the last twelve years, I know how these outcomes work.

802
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: I don't think any of its rigged. But I do

803
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: think it's human beings. Like you're gonna be swayed one

804
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: way or the other by whatever you're swayed by. Someone

805
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: called me right now and said, Yo, Traymon should be

806
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: suspended because and then someone else called me and said

807
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Traymon should be suspended a lota. Yeah, I don't know

808
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: their reasoning for why they think Draymond should be suspended,

809
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: But what I do know is that I hear them

810
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: constantly in my ear telling me that Draymond should be suspended.

811
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: So I could be swayed by that. So it's not

812
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: necessarily that I'm swayed by YO, if Draymond, if they

813
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: win this game, Raymond wins the finals MVP. I don't

814
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: necessarily think that, by the way, but that person on

815
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: the phone call and trying to persuade you can't be

816
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: thinking that, you know what I'm sa And so I

817
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: do think that the the decision could have been swayed

818
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: by anything, because it's not black and white. It's not

819
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: like this thing happens and it's overweight. It's a human

820
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: being that's watching things, that's listening to things, that are

821
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: reading things, and all of those things can sway your decision.

822
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: Too much real shit going on at one time.

823
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 3: What do you say the guy was facing one point

824
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: two million dollars of fines in the Super Bowl? Is

825
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: that where that comes from?

826
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: Oh?

827
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: Man?

828
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: Now that now look, now that's different.

829
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's that different.

830
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: If Draymond has been facing fine suspensions, you've I mean,

831
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: one thing you guys have in common as well, a

832
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: little bit.

833
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: Yes, listen, one point two million dollars finds I'll killed.

834
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: I think I've been two and a half million dollars

835
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: up to this. Possibly more sh.

836
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 6: No, you know, that's just how that's just how the

837
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, you know, I go to his

838
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 6: home state and there's love. He kind of mine is love,

839
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 6: and then we could sit down and politic over some

840
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 6: bullshit fines. You know what I mean, Dan, I mean

841
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 6: you know we got I mean, got that in common.

842
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 6: Then you I mean, uh, holding up that trophy. Well

843
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 6: I ain't get the whole mind now, but holding up

844
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 6: that trophy at the end of a uh of the season, uh.

845
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: Crowned A's champions.

846
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 6: And then you feel me though outside of that, you know,

847
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 6: I mean every day walk being comfortable in your own skin.

848
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 6: You know I'm talking about like, it's a lot of

849
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 6: common similarities that you know what I mean, that we share,

850
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 6: which is why you feel me though even if we

851
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 6: don't talk, we can not talk for shid it could

852
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: be years on out, but then as soon as we

853
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 6: u click back up, it's like, shit, we were just

854
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 6: with each other yesterday.

855
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: That's true.

856
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: That's that's you know.

857
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: I mean, when when when you when you building and

858
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 6: you grinding, That's what that ship is about.

859
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Man.

860
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm saying that that's that's well you

861
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 6: can't say that. You can't say that either, But that's real.

862
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: Man.

863
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, which is a terrible segue. Dream of a

864
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, Doug. I think we were with

865
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 3: Draymond and game five. I think of the finals in

866
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. We came back to say hello, you

867
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: guys are running in. You do what you always do,

868
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: which is you immediately stopped over, said a low to us, uh,

869
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: and we were bullshitting. You guys just won the game.

870
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: You're going back to Boston for Game six, which you won,

871
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: and and we were like, you know, great game, all

872
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: this bullshit, and then you just randomly, I don't know

873
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: if you remember this. You say, man, You're like, I'm

874
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: not looking forward to going back to Boston. I said,

875
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: what the hell? Because it was next level. I've been

876
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: ideal with shit all the time, people saying f this

877
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: and you but that crowd and the end word, and

878
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: you said it got in your head. I think it

879
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: was Game three.

880
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: I was too close.

881
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: I no, that's as close as it will ever get.

882
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: It was close as it will ever get. But you

883
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: but you. It was interesting. It was like a vulnerability

884
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: that I'd never seen in you. For all the bravado,

885
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: all the bs, you just had a great game. You

886
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: guys crushed. I think Wiggans had a ridiculous game.

887
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 7: That game you guys were on high.

888
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: It was inevitable you were going to win Game six,

889
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: but you were like hurt by that.

890
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: I was. I listen, I think I've been booeding just

891
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: about every arena. It happens a part of my sick mind.

892
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: I love it. It gets me going. Like sometimes I

893
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: run out Every now and then I will catch an

894
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: arena where I run out and either the crowd missed

895
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: them calling my name, or you know, maybe they don't

896
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: hate me as much as the next place. But every

897
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: now and then I run out it and I don't

898
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: get booed, and it is like the weirdest thing. It's

899
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: like a thing in our huddle. If I run out

900
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: and get booed, everybody like.

901
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: Yo, what's going on here?

902
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: Like like what is this? Like? So I'm like, that's

903
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: what happens. It's been happening in my entire career. When

904
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: we got to Boston, I had never heard like Cleveland.

905
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: You can imagine getting suspended for trying to hit brin

906
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: Like Cleveland. They are drunk, loud, raunchy like Boston. Was

907
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: that times a thousand on stere rooms Like I couldn't

908
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: believe it, the things that they were saying like how

909
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: they were saying like you could hear the hatred, like

910
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: running down the sideline, and the way someone would say

911
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: something to me like you could hear like it was

912
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: almost giving me like, wow, you really want to do

913
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: something else to me, Like if you could and I

914
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: wasn't running up and down this basketball court, you'd be

915
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: willing to take this as far as you could take it,

916
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: Like I'm getting that feeling running down the court. And then,

917
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: by the way, every time, every time there's an opportunity,

918
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: there's a break in the moment, it is the loudest

919
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: chance of fuck you Draymond ever And then those chants

920
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: like as the game start back and I take off

921
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: running down the court, the fuck you Draymond chests go away.

922
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: But now the like the jabs from from the salon,

923
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: from the courtside, from people right behind course, now all

924
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: those jobs are coming there and it's inward. It's the

925
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: B word. It's like everything you can imagine. I'm just like, yo,

926
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: this is nuts. So Game three it threw me off.

927
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: It's like, whoa Game four? I got benched. I haven't

928
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: been benched since I started playing. I get benched in

929
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: game four. Steve Kirks starts going offense, the defense up

930
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm playing, I'm like so out of it. In game four,

931
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: him a little bit better, but man, I'm going there's

932
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: a play and Steph I caught the ball out of

933
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: a trap, and I'm like, this is game four. I

934
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 2: caught the ball out of a trap. There's not really

935
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: anybody in front of me. I don't even look at

936
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: through them. I just turned back and look for Steph again,

937
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: and stuff come flying out of nowhere. I hit him

938
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: on the right wing. He hit a big three. It

939
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: was a dagger three. But like I was so mentally gone.

940
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do with the basketball. I

941
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: was like here, like take it. And and at that point,

942
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: by the way, because I'm going offense to defense, so

943
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: my confidence offensively is shot. Like you're now taking me

944
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: out of the game on offense and only putting me back.

945
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 7: It was this the only game I catched the ball?

946
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 7: Was this the only game You've been screwed up like this?

947
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: Oh? To like like gone? And so we went game

948
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: four and I literally went up to step after the

949
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: game was like, yo, thank you, I got you. I

950
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: got you in game five and then we're gonna come

951
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: back here in game six and these boys done, and

952
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: that's exactly what happened. But man, I was like I

953
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: was gone. There was no better feeling than the way

954
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: I bounced back in game six.

955
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

956
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: And watching their fans, some of them walk out the arena,

957
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: and watching some of them sit there and discuss watching

958
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: us celebrate the championship on the floor.

959
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: Marshawn, You have any ever had the experience with I mean,

960
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: at that level of the crowds that they're just got

961
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: in your head in a different way.

962
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, I went the crowd now you know,

963
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 6: it's it's a it's a I'll say, it's a little

964
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 6: different considering you know, I mean the distance from the

965
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 6: crowd to the field, and I mean, you know how

966
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 6: how I'm locked in. And then even if it was

967
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 6: a situation where where I did I did I did?

968
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 6: Then Buffalo, we were playing in Pillian and one of

969
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 6: the uh one of fans told me, hey, fuck you

970
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 6: black motherfuckers, go get back in your fucking carn go

971
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: and hit somebody.

972
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh oh you know what I mean?

973
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: That was a yeah, that was close to something I

974
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: had like that.

975
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 4: But well, Draymond, it got so bad for marsh I

976
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: don't know if you know the story back from Marshawn

977
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 4: and Buffalo, Like his second year there, he would literally

978
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 4: be in the in the player's parking lot, okay and

979
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: ten and windows music playing loud. The cops would pull

980
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: them over when he left the players parking lot and

981
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: give him a ticket for ten and windows and the

982
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: music being too loud. This started, This started happening, so

983
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: Marshawn's so, I'm like, you know what if I don't

984
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: get him on a Buffalo, he may not ever get

985
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: out of Buffalo, you know what I'm saying, Like it

986
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 4: may his career may be done, and they would follow

987
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: him home all these different things. I I at one

988
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: point I yelled at a cop publicly. I said, a

989
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: cop in Buffalo is a racist roade cop. And his

990
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: cop sued me for basically calling him out for for defamation.

991
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: Luckily I found out he didn't pay his taxes, and

992
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: I got wow, and my loss was dismissed.

993
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: But it got level work right there.

994
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 7: But it got INFALOI he.

995
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 6: Was doing his age and ship at that time, yes,

996
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 6: but but but but real real talk though, bro, Like

997
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 6: you know, I mean with all that ship going on,

998
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 6: and yeah, I mean just just uh you know the.

999
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: Story you're just telling. How you doing mentally though?

1000
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Bro?

1001
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 6: Like you know what I mean with everything going on

1002
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 6: for the position that you're in right now. Yeah, I mean, uh,

1003
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 6: just realistically, like aside from you know, I mean everything

1004
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 6: or what the what the public know or that you

1005
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 6: you know, you might post or you might put out there.

1006
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: How you doing mentally.

1007
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: Though I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm in a great space. Man,

1008
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. But boy, last year was one of

1009
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 2: the hardest years of my life and it really took

1010
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: me to a real fucked up space mentally.

1011
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

1012
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: It is like in going through everything that I would

1013
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: through last year, I think it took me to such

1014
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: a bad space because basketball is one thing. You know

1015
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, if I'm honest, I mean, you

1016
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: know me, well, the person that I am when I'm competing,

1017
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: it's not the same person that I am on a

1018
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: daily basis. I can beat that person at any time, right,

1019
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: Like you can push me to that point. But I'm

1020
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: way more calm on a day to day basis than

1021
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: I am on the basketball court. Like I'm competing, Like

1022
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: it wake up a totally different beast and so. But

1023
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: regardless of who I am on the basketball court or whatever,

1024
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: people start the things that people started to question and

1025
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: say about me that was affecting people around me really

1026
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: started to really started to get to me. Like, you

1027
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: can say what you want about me. That's fine. I've

1028
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: heard these things for years on end. Of the things

1029
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: that people had to say and their thoughts about me,

1030
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: I can deal with, though, but when it starts to

1031
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: affect people around me, in particular my children, Like the

1032
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: things that some of the things that my kids will

1033
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: like come home and ask me or say to me

1034
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: that's been asked to them or said to them at school,

1035
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: was kind of like, damn right that that started to

1036
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: tell me. That started to really bar me down mentally.

1037
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: I started going to like I really start taking like therapy,

1038
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: like going to therapy. And it was a very interesting

1039
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: thing for me because I tried it once before, but

1040
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 2: I tried it on a very specific thing that I

1041
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: was dealing with, you know, like I was dealing with

1042
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: this specific thing, and I'm like, man, I need to

1043
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: get some help with that, Like, so let me try this.

1044
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: So that would always It's crazy because every year the

1045
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: league they are our league. They do these you know,

1046
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: where they come out, they talk about mental health. They'll

1047
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: introduce like the team psychologists and all these things. I

1048
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: always say, like a lot of the things that they

1049
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: do though, like the financially check the box and there's

1050
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: no real commitment to you should do this or you

1051
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: should do that on most of those things. And so

1052
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: but however, when the guy would come speak every year,

1053
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: Steph and I would kind of lead out and Stephan

1054
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: would share his experience or not that he's had or not,

1055
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: and I share my experience that I had or not,

1056
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: and my experience would always be man fellas, I know

1057
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: how I need to do this, but I'm scared, and

1058
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: so I'm really telling y'all this because I'm afraid of it.

1059
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: And if I tell y'all that i'm afraid, this may

1060
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: be the thing to push me to go do it right,

1061
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: and nope, I still be afraid and not do it.

1062
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: So finally I was like, you know, I have this

1063
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: very specific thing that I'm dealing with. Let me see

1064
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: where this can get me. And I started taking therapy

1065
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: to deal with it, and it got better for me,

1066
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: Like I was able to talk through it and work

1067
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: myself through it, and so I'm like, man, that's interesting. Nope,

1068
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: still not enough to get me to where I need

1069
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: to go because the issue that I really need to

1070
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: go for I think it's so deep and I'm not

1071
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: ready to face it yet. Because the thing with it

1072
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: is like when you go to therapy you can uncover

1073
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: some things. You can't just lead those things there. You

1074
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: gotta deal with those things now, so be afraid and

1075
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: so so afraid that I'm like, Nope, I'm still not

1076
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: ready to do that, and I pulled away from it.

1077
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: And then when once I started going through this, I'm like,

1078
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: you know what, I need to do that. But not

1079
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: only do I need to do it to deal with

1080
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: this thing. I'm finally out of place now to where

1081
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm ready to confront those things that I need to

1082
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: confront because by the way, those things could be driving

1083
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: me back to this same spot I keep on and

1084
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: up here. And man, that that was such a great

1085
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 2: time for me because it was it was like, let's see, jeez,

1086
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: it was I mean, I didn't I didn't play basketball

1087
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: for a month and a half and I didn't like

1088
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: do anything basketball wise, workout, like be on the schedule

1089
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: for like three to four weeks, and it was great

1090
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: for me because it allowed me to settle back into

1091
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: just being Draymond, not the pressures are going to work out,

1092
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: not the pressures of a schedule. I gotta be there tomorrow,

1093
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: I gotta be here. It allowed me to lock back

1094
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: into me, focus on the things that I need to

1095
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: focus on, start the process that I needed to start,

1096
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: the things that I needed to work through. And man,

1097
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: it was such a and has been not because it continues,

1098
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: but it's been such a powerful space for me because

1099
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: and as you know, in our neighborhoods, we're taught that

1100
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: those things are for soft people like that if you

1101
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: do that, that you're weak minded and you should be

1102
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: just you should be able to push through these things.

1103
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: But the reality is these things that we're pushing through

1104
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: it's killing us. And yeah, I can push through it

1105
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: all I want, and I could be tough all I wanted,

1106
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: and I can look like to you that all of

1107
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: it is bouncing off of me and I'm just running

1108
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: through it. But the reality is what it's doing to

1109
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: me on the inside. It's like really tearing me down,

1110
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: and it's not allowing me to be my best self.

1111
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: Not only for myself, but for those that I know

1112
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: depend on me to be my best self. And I

1113
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: am also someone that even if you don't depend on

1114
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: me to help you be your best self, I think

1115
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: I have a way about me of helping you be

1116
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: your best self in a way that you didn't really

1117
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: know that you need. And I wasn't able to fulfill

1118
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: that in my life and that was bothering me. And

1119
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: so it's been an incredible journey. It's very interesting because

1120
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: I used to have these conversations with my mom on like, man,

1121
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: like why is mental health being pushed in all of

1122
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: these things and life? And and it's crazy because to

1123
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: get to that space and actually go through it, like

1124
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: for her to even be like, you know, for my

1125
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: mom to even look at it and be like huh,

1126
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: start asking questions, well, what about this? But how does

1127
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 2: this work? How does that work?

1128
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: What?

1129
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: And it's like wow, Like now we're talking about if

1130
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: I can change her, and we start talking about changing generations.

1131
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: That's the real change we need because in order to

1132
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: change the generation after us, it's also our responsibility to

1133
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: change the generation before us. And so that's been my

1134
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: That's that's like I haven't been extremely outspoken about it

1135
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 2: because to me, it's a very personal journey and it's

1136
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: personal to me and to those that I am close to.

1137
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I got very long win it,

1138
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,479
Speaker 2: but I saw that to say, I'm in a great

1139
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: space mentally. But I worked, I didn't work. I work

1140
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: really hard to be here. Brother.

1141
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing that, man, that's next level. That's really

1142
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: thank you, seriously. I mean, you have no idea how

1143
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: resident that is with so many folks, and to hear

1144
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: a guy like you be that honest man that that's

1145
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: that's going to make a real difference.

1146
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that.

1147
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: No problem.

1148
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 6: No, So look there's twelve for you right going into thirteen.

1149
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 6: I'm going into thirteen, going in at thirteen. So look, no,

1150
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 6: with basketball, you know you play ship till you damn

1151
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 6: near fifty for.

1152
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: Going.

1153
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 6: But look, one of the things you feel me though,

1154
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 6: as I just heard you speak, like you know what I

1155
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 6: mean at the end of the day. You know, I

1156
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 6: mean being you know in my position, shit retire from

1157
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 6: the league what two, three times or whatever how many

1158
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 6: times it is. When I got to that point, you know,

1159
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 6: I felt institutionalized.

1160
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: Right So after the first.

1161
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 6: Time I had retired, when I had this time to

1162
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 6: myself and it was on me to make a schedule.

1163
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 6: I was clueless because I was you know, I mean

1164
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: I'm used to you know, at this point in time,

1165
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 6: I got to do this. At this point in time,

1166
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 6: I got to get ready to go and you know,

1167
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 6: get ready for OTA's or minie camp or whatever. And yeah,

1168
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 6: I mean realistically, what I did was, you know, I

1169
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 6: mean I short changed myself, you know, by by being

1170
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 6: in the league just not preparing myself for what you

1171
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 6: know comes after that. So if it was be anything

1172
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 6: that I would give to you know, younger players, it

1173
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 6: would be don't take this time or while you're in

1174
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 6: the league to understand how to schedule a time for

1175
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 6: yourself for a day, because that.

1176
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Shit was so hard for me, bruh.

1177
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 6: And when you talk about, you know, the mental aspect

1178
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 6: of everything and how that shit started to weigh on

1179
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 6: you and how it started to tear you down, Like

1180
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 6: I could not plan a day for myself. So when

1181
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 6: I went back to the Raiders, you know, I took

1182
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: an opportunity to learn some shit about myself in order

1183
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 6: to schedule you know, I mean times for me to

1184
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 6: do certain things or you know, I mean just just

1185
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 6: to go through the day, you know, as a person,

1186
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 6: because we've been, like I said, institutionalized. So if it's

1187
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 6: something that I would give you know, I mean that

1188
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 6: I would give to you is not to take for granted,

1189
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 6: you know. I mean the opportunity that you have right

1190
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 6: now at your fingertips for you know, when you're done.

1191
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 6: But it's something that you are doing right now that

1192
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 6: I think, you know, you you know, ten steps ahead

1193
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: of the game because you are actually, you know, doing

1194
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 6: something that's gonna set you up for when you're done. Yeah,

1195
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 6: I mean you'll fall into and you got you know,

1196
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 6: I mean you gotta you gotta like a rhythm of

1197
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 6: something that you could get into.

1198
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: But learning how.

1199
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 6: To schedule your day out as just a as a

1200
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 6: as a human, which I feel I feel a lot

1201
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 6: of guys who I mean retired from the game because

1202
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 6: they all believe that I'm gonna do this shit for

1203
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 6: forever and that's not the reality of what it is

1204
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 6: that we in. So, like I said, if it's something

1205
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 6: that I could get to, like, take that scheduling that

1206
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: you got right now and think about how you can

1207
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 6: apply that to your everyday life because that shit get

1208
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 6: you know, I mean ten times, or like my life

1209
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 6: outside of the league is so much different and so

1210
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 6: much harder because it's not that I gotta go be

1211
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 6: accountable for something that got something to do with the team,

1212
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 6: but this is something that I gota accountable for my

1213
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 6: life and growing, like all of that shit mattered, bro So,

1214
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 6: Like I said, as far as like, you know, the meeting,

1215
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 6: you know, I mean.

1216
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: The nutrition, Uh, the fucking workouts.

1217
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, the study time, you know,

1218
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 6: I mean the whole situation, like starting your mind to

1219
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 6: to start to plan something that you'll be able to

1220
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 6: take away from the game that you could be able

1221
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 6: to implement into your life for when you're done. And

1222
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 6: I believe that, I mean, any player that has the

1223
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 6: opportunity to play for a professional team like to take

1224
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 6: that and learn how to implement that in your everyday life, bruh.

1225
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 6: And I think like a lot of the mental issues

1226
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 6: that we have professional athletes have for after they done,

1227
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 6: I think that's how you can counteract, you know, all

1228
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 6: of the shit that's going on because you know, I mean,

1229
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 6: you know you talk about the financial literacy when they

1230
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 6: come in, I can remember going to meetings, and I mean,

1231
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 6: you know, all the young dudes, they only stay in

1232
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 6: this meeting because they know at the end of it

1233
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 6: we get to get the Madden checks.

1234
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: But a lot of time, you feel meate they.

1235
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 6: Given is them on you know, I mean financial literacy, Yeah,

1236
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 6: I mean uh uh you know, uh health things that

1237
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 6: you do to help your health. I mean, just to

1238
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 6: keep your mind right. And nobody was paying attention to

1239
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 6: that ship. And I was one of those guys that

1240
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 6: would just sit in that meeting on some ship that

1241
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 6: just like you know what I mean, I don't want

1242
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 6: I don't want to walk out. They given some information,

1243
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 6: they given some Isthm. I want to try to at

1244
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 6: least if I could sit in this meeting, you know,

1245
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 6: for an hour or two, you know, I mean to

1246
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 6: to to get something that's gonna help me in life,

1247
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 6: because I mean, I was one of them players who

1248
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 6: you know, I ain't gonna be able to do this

1249
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 6: for the for the remainder of time of my life,

1250
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 6: but when I'm gonna be able to take from it.

1251
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 6: And even though I did stand, I mean, I still

1252
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 6: felt like I short changed myself by not you know,

1253
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 6: I mean implementing all those small things that we take

1254
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 6: for granted. So it's just them little ships that I

1255
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 6: believe that uh, you know, we should really focus on

1256
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 6: and pay attention to in order to help us to

1257
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 6: get you know what I mean, outside of our mind,

1258
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 6: because one thing I know is about professional athlete level.

1259
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 6: Once we get in our head and it's not for

1260
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 6: the right reasons, then we had those situations to what

1261
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 6: we would just talk about where Yeah, I mean the

1262
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 6: smallest things like crowd noise. We know that shit on

1263
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 6: a on a day to day basis, that shit don't

1264
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 6: mean nothing. But once we get in our own hit,

1265
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 6: that shit start to affect us to a point where

1266
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 6: we don't even recognize ourselves. Yes, but man, what you

1267
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 6: just said though, bro, that shit was that shit was powerful.

1268
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, just being in my position,

1269
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, at at a point in time,

1270
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 6: you know it will come to you know, I mean,

1271
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 6: me having to be vulnerable to open up, to go

1272
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 6: and sit down with somebody that you know what I mean,

1273
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 6: express my feelings in my thought process to you know,

1274
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 6: to see what I'm fucked up at. And I mean,

1275
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 6: you know, we just like you said, you was where

1276
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 6: we come from and how we look at things where

1277
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, we looked at if you

1278
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 6: do it's a weakness, you know, I mean you soft,

1279
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, you pussy all.

1280
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: That type of shit.

1281
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, man, the way

1282
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 6: that you said, I'm doing great, like I can see

1283
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 6: that on your face and I can believe it, considering

1284
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 6: when you talk to somebody in a.

1285
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: Bullshit lord, no, no, I'm doing.

1286
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 6: Good type shit and in reality they got a motherfucking

1287
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 6: costco list of shit that they dealing with that got

1288
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 6: them fucked up. You feel me so, man, Yeah, realistic,

1289
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 6: Like I appreciate you saying that shit because I mean,

1290
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 6: you know, it put me in a state of mind where, like,

1291
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 6: you know what, maybe this is something that I want

1292
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 6: to try though you feel me so helly.

1293
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, bro, some solid shit, I believe.

1294
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it, man, And I think you know,

1295
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: one of the things you'll find is like you end

1296
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: up talking yourself through your issue like it is to

1297
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: have that soundboard to give you some guidance to help

1298
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: guys you're here. And I think one of the funnest, wonderful,

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Speaker 2: funnest things exercises that I've done in my life. Like,

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: we go through all these exercises, and you know, whether

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 2: it's in basketball exercises, whether it's in school exercise, and

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: whether it's at your job or my job, these exercises

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: that we have to go through. One of the best

1304
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: exercises that I've ever done in my life was like

1305
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: tracing something back through my life because ay, it takes

1306
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: it like and again, you have to be prepared for

1307
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: it because it can take you through some places that

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: you like, you're smile as big as here, right, like wow,

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01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: it just took me back to that moment like that

1310
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 2: was incredible. But it can also take you to a

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01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: moment that you didn't love. You know what I'm saying,

1312
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: That was like real dark for you. But that's a

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01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: part of it, you know what I'm saying. That's a

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: part of getting back to the root of this problem.

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01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: So many things, Like it's no different than things that

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01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: we deal in America like or things that you deal

1317
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: with over here. If I just fix what looks like

1318
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 2: the issue on the surface, there's still a problem under

1319
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: neath that's going to eventually If if there's mold up

1320
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: here and I take that thing off and replace something,

1321
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 2: replace it with a new cap because the new cap

1322
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: isn't molded. But if the mode is underneath the top cap, yeah,

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01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: then the top cap just the new one just molds.

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Speaker 7: It sounds like Gavin's day job, Draymond.

1325
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: A tough day job.

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 7: It sounds like your day job.

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01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I think doing that work, man, I

1328
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: think you will find it enjoyable whise you work through it.

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: But like I said, not to be like some like

1330
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm this advocate. It's just my personal journey and I'm

1331
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: enjoying my journey.

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01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you sharing that with.

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01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: This big deal brother.

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Speaker 4: Hey d let me ask you question, and I say this,

1335
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 4: You're so talented, bro. You got You've got so many

1336
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 4: things you can do in your post career. Obviously got

1337
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 4: a huge media career. You could go to the team side,

1338
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 4: to be an ownership in someplace and all that. Where

1339
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: do you see yourself in ten years Because you've got

1340
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 4: so many things in front of you can do. That's

1341
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 4: really cool. But I mean other than the media and

1342
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 4: owning a team or being a GM somewhere whatever it

1343
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 4: may be, where do you see yourself in ten years

1344
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: from now?

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01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, that's that's an interesting one. I think, uh, well,

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: Number one, I think media as we've known it, I

1347
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't like it's going to change, and I want to

1348
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: spearhead that change. I think media as we've seen it

1349
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: on a daily for the last twenty years, nothing lasts forever.

1350
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: And I think a big change in media is coming.

1351
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: And like a side of social obviously social media has changed,

1352
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: but I think a big, a big change is coming

1353
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: in media, sports media, and I want to be a

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: leader of an usher and that change in also, I

1355
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: would love to I would love to be a part

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: owner of a sports team. And I think for me,

1357
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't just like I've seen the part owner of

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01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: a sports team thing like if I want to be

1359
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: a part owner of a sports team, I want to.

1360
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 2: The reason I want to do that is because a

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 2: I see something special in that team and that organization

1362
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: and that owner of something. But more importantly, I see

1363
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 2: something that I can bring to that situation that can

1364
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: help that situation go further. I don't want to be

1365
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: the guy that's just like, oh, you can plant some money,

1366
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 2: like like that's great, and like we're all looking for

1367
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: great investments and there's no better investments and sports teams

1368
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,919
Speaker 2: right now, like I want to help win, Like sports

1369
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: is fun, but there's nothing like winning in sports, like

1370
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: like you talk about, you talk about like a feeling

1371
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: that you like that is hard to reproduce through anything else.

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01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: Winning in sports there's no better feeling. And so for me,

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: if absolutely so for me, if I can be involved

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: in team ownership, but involved in a way that I

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: can help usher in some things from my perspective that

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: I think can help win, that I'd love to do that.

1377
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: And by the way, I've been in it now for

1378
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 2: thirteen years, I think I know the difference in being

1379
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 2: someone that can help win and being an owner that

1380
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: everybody's like, yo, get the hell away from you, like

1381
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 2: because because we run into that too. And I think

1382
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: I can easily find a balance in that because I've

1383
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: been on the other side of it, like I've been

1384
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 2: one of those players that's like somebody see the owner

1385
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: and their team coming, like yo, if you don't keep

1386
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: him as far away from me as you possibly can.

1387
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 4: And the scary thing, Draymond, as you know, is that

1388
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: there's more owners that you want to run away from

1389
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: the than go to, which is scary.

1390
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 6: Real ship though, like you you you are like one

1392
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 6: of the one of the faces of the new the

1393
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 6: new media type ship though, right and what you got

1394
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 6: going on and what you've proven that you know, I mean,

1395
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 6: you could be successful in real talk, you can give

1396
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 6: my uh you could give Batman some some uh some

1397
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 6: advice because you feel me like real talk like you

1398
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 6: you you you in the game, you feel what I'm

1399
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 6: talking about.

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: You active in the game, and you got a show though.

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01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm talking about Batman active governor right now?

1402
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 6: You feel what I'm talking about, Like when this motherfucker

1403
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 6: get up out of here, he gotta go, you know

1404
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 6: what I mean, back to the UH State captain and

1405
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 6: he gotta go get back into UH governor mode. You

1406
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about. But he got it, he

1407
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 6: got it, He got a pocket ask that he rockets

1408
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 6: lab right now, so realistically, like you know what I mean,

1409
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 6: not just even from just the sports aspect, but I mean,

1410
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 6: you know, dog being a governor, politician and ship any

1411
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 6: active right now, like I don't know, I mean, you

1412
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 6: showed that it can be done. And now I don't

1413
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 6: know if you could say following the footstep.

1414
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: But you could give you could give brus.

1415
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 6: Someism on how you know what I mean, how this

1416
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 6: ship can really work? Like what would you what would

1417
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 6: you tell Batman as far as like being active and

1418
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 6: what you got going on and then also.

1419
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: Having a platform to go.

1420
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 6: And speak, you know, I mean to the to the

1421
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 6: to the public about what's really going on and how

1422
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 6: to balance that and how to actually make that ship successful.

1423
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: You really that position.

1424
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact.

1425
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 3: And winning in politics ain't bad. It ain't just sports.

1426
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: That's a fact. Went in in general is one of

1427
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 2: the better feelings. Sports is just what I do. But no,

1428
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: I think what I will say is this, Listen, we

1429
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: understand that when we put ourselves, when we put ourselves

1430
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: out here like this, and by the way, I respect

1431
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: you obviously you know I've been had the utmost respect

1432
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 2: for you, but I respect you for putting yourself out

1433
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: like this. It's it's the exact reason why I've appreciated

1434
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 2: living in the state where you're the governor is because

1435
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: you haven't heard from anything and anything that's going on.

1436
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: You've been standing on the front lines and you've put

1437
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: yourself out there. And right now is like I don't.

1438
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't know the numbers, but my guess is that

1439
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: you're our first governor to do a podcast, and if not,

1440
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: you're you're you're by far the biggest to do it.

1441
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: So when I look at that, like, to push yourself

1442
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: out there in that manner, to me is admirable. And

1443
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: the reason that it's admirable is because most people a

1444
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: won't do it. But number two, when putting yourself out

1445
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: there to where someone could potentially pick at it, to

1446
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: where someone can potentially use it to try to tear

1447
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 2: you down. When doing something like that, for as big

1448
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: as the risk is, as big as the reward is,

1449
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: and you know so for you to put yourself out there,

1450
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 2: like the platform that you guys are going to build

1451
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: and have, there won't be a stronger platform than that.

1452
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: You know why, because I know exactly where to go

1453
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: to hear what you have to say, and that platform

1454
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: becomes as important as ever and you do whatever it

1455
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: is that you want to do with that platform, and

1456
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: for you and everything that you've done since I've known you,

1457
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: you're going to do good with that platform. People will

1458
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: tear it down. Like I said before, Oh you're the governor,

1459
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: You're not worried about this. You're not doing that thing.

1460
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: There's a crisis going on over here. You should be

1461
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: doing that. And it's like, well, quite frankly, have a life.

1462
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: That is my job. I also have a team that

1463
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: even if I'm sitting here doing my podcast, I have

1464
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: a team that's working somebody. It's like someone's working, like

1465
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm just out here sitting down doing a pot and

1466
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: nothing's going on. Also, am not going to look at

1467
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: this sheet of paper for twenty four hours a day

1468
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: or look at this screen for twenty four hours a day.

1469
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: And sort of thing that I would just say most

1470
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: is like, embrace, embrace the good in it, embrace the

1471
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: failures because you're gonna say something that everybody's going to

1472
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 2: go crazy about. But by the way, you're going to

1473
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: say way more good things that everybody go crazy about

1474
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 2: the bad. But none of us say all great things.

1475
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 2: So the one thing we say everybody don't try to

1476
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: pounce on it. And the only thing I would say

1477
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: about those times is like, in the good in the bad,

1478
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: stand on each one of them. And I know you've

1479
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: done that in your career and how you've built to

1480
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: this point. But when it goes good. I'm gonna stand

1481
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: right here in this pocket and I'm gonna appreciate it.

1482
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna know that although it's going good, i

1483
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: gotta keep working and when it goes bad, I'm a

1484
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: stand in this pocket, appreciate it and work to make

1485
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: it better. Because when you're speaking this much, it's only

1486
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: a certain amount of time that you have before you

1487
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: say something that someone don't like. Oh and by the way,

1488
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,919
Speaker 2: if you're absolutely great, fifty percent of the people appreciate

1489
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: what you say, if you're the absolute best. So I

1490
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: would just say, embrace it, stand on it, embrace the platform,

1491
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: dive into the platform, because the platform is powerful. The

1492
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: platform creates change, and that's what we're out here to

1493
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: do in order and to build a platform that can

1494
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 2: do that. It's special.

1495
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 3: Appreciate this conversation has been special. I've already fed up

1496
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 3: with said, what the hell you didn't want me to say?

1497
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 3: Braggadocius Jesus, Yeah, that ain't even right. But you know what,

1498
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: you know what is right? Everything about you, Draymond Man Uh,

1499
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 3: your leadership. You're all about accountability, you take responses. I mean,

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: it's something we love about marshawn As well, you guys

1501
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 3: are just remarkably authentic people.

1502
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 3: And this has been a hell of a conversation, illuminating

1504
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 3: and insightful. And I'll tell you what that is deeply

1505
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: part of my day job as well, be having the

1506
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 3: gift of a platform where we can have these real

1507
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 3: and raw conversations uh and check each other and all

1508
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: the bs that's out there. So we appreciate you being

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01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 3: here and uh and Marshawn, I appreciate Uh. I appreciate

1510
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: how you guys engaged and elevated this conversation a whole

1511
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: other level.

1512
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: Good.

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01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 4: No, Draymond, we love you man. Like I said, I

1514
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 4: got one question for you, Dreymon. I remember last question

1515
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 4: back in two thousand and eight fire you fired your

1516
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 4: first aid. You just remember and I remember Lamar because

1517
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 4: I remember Lamar coming to me and saying, hey, Draymond's

1518
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 4: going to leave his guys, and what do you think?

1519
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 4: And and and correct me if I'm wrong, If you

1520
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 4: say the wrong thing, I'm not gonna have a good day.

1521
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 4: Did I have a chance to represent even those football

1522
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,560
Speaker 4: guy if I came at you?

1523
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 2: Of course you had, Oh God, of course you had.

1524
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: You You were you were, you were so caught up

1525
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: in Marshaan, Eric Kendricks and Uh, all of these guys.

1526
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't get the time of day.

1527
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what they had me on

1528
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: the whole time.

1529
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 7: That is that what this whole damn thing was about,

1530
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 7: all about men.

1531
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 6: Trying to put his his envelope in the in the.

1532
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 7: Hand there you know dream.

1533
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 4: We love you, bro, We love you man, and have

1534
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 4: a great rest of summer and eight season next year

1535
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 4: and we'll see you soon.

1536
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: All right. I appreciate y'all fellas, Thank y'all for having

1537
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: me on.

1538
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 6: Okay, God, man, make sure you tell moms what's handed.

1539
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit it from my new jack too.

1540
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: Bro. Okay, I bet that I'll let it up. Oh God,

1541
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: all right, appreciate y'all. It's great, brother, Thank you, all right,

1542
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:29,520
Speaker 2: thank you, No problem.