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Speaker 1: get into some questionable relationship advice.
Speaker 3: Second date, up date.
Speaker 4: For a date? Would you rather be silently ghosted or
Speaker 4: blatantly canceled on?
Speaker 1: Yikes? And at least you would know if you're blatantly
Speaker 1: canceled on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but wondering I can make up my own excuse,
Speaker 5: like I'm too perfect?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Is that what you're doing when you're ghosted? There's still
Speaker 4: that like glimmer of hope that maybe they got the
Speaker 4: wrong bar or maybe they.
Speaker 1: Got a rest their phone broke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they fell down a man hole and they
Speaker 4: can't get out. Oh did you then to story for yourself? There?
Speaker 4: That makes you feel good. But today one of our listeners, Jillian,
Speaker 4: thought she had a second date locked down until she
Speaker 4: got one very strange last minute text, calling it off,
Speaker 4: and now she's really confused and needs our help. Jillian,
Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: Hi, thank you.
Speaker 1: My interest is so Pete. I don't want to know
Speaker 1: what that text message says that someone wassed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's start at the beginning of your story.
Speaker 4: How did you meet this guy? What's his name?
Speaker 7: His names Zach?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Okay, where did you and Zach meet?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 7: We met at a bar?
Speaker 1: Oh in real life?
Speaker 7: In real life? Yeah, I know. So it was like
Speaker 7: last Friday night. I had been planning on staying in,
Speaker 7: like not going out at all that night.
Speaker 1: That's what it always happens, right, I know, right, which
Speaker 1: means that you weren't looking your best. You're probably kind
Speaker 1: of a mess.
Speaker 4: But yes, okay, it's a harsh.
Speaker 1: No, I don't mean that in a mean way.
Speaker 7: I was looking at okay, Dea is me there? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Then I had this like feeling after I got home
Speaker 7: from work where I was like, no, you know what,
Speaker 7: I actually don't want to have a cozy night in.
Speaker 7: I want to go do something.
Speaker 6: Feeling. I always have the feeling to go. You get
Speaker 6: that feeling to go out.
Speaker 1: So fun you bring in the good energy.
Speaker 4: Okay, So where do you go.
Speaker 7: So I called my girlfriend. We go to a bar
Speaker 7: kind of by my place and we're just hanging out
Speaker 7: and then I see this guy and I like, I
Speaker 7: don't usually make the first move, like ever, but I
Speaker 7: was kind of like listening to their not listening to
Speaker 7: their conversation. But I was at the bar trying to
Speaker 7: get a drink.
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, but I was kind
Speaker 1: of drunk, so I.
Speaker 4: Did it.
Speaker 7: Right there. They were talking about the movie Wicked, oh,
Speaker 7: and I had just seen it, and their opinions were
Speaker 7: like totally wrong. So I jumped in to tell him
Speaker 7: why he was wrong, but also just like to flirt
Speaker 7: with him.
Speaker 5: And okay, right off the pack, don't argue about a
Speaker 5: man with way, I just.
Speaker 2: Know that there's two guys arguing over wicket together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I already know why he's not
Speaker 4: calling you back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, Oul, come on, Yeah, if you like
Speaker 1: touch their arm and stuff, then they love an argument.
Speaker 7: So anyway, we ended up talking for a while. We
Speaker 7: went to another bar together, just the two of us. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: well she was kind of done. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I came out for you, so if you're good, like bye,
Speaker 7: and we had plans for a second date. We were
Speaker 7: going to go to this bar that has ski ball
Speaker 7: and I was going to beat him at skyball and
Speaker 7: I was ki oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So you guys even talked about where and when and
Speaker 1: all of it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all of it. And so then shere's the crazy part.
Speaker 7: That morning that we're supposed to go out, I get
Speaker 7: a text from him that says, I'm onto you, dates
Speaker 7: off on to you, on you, I'm on to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I texted it back and I was like, what are
Speaker 7: you talking about? And then he just couldn't answer me.
Speaker 1: Does he think that you're in a relationship or something.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that I think, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: We should have asked, are you currently with somebody?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, okay, She's like kids, Yeah, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: And that's so strange too, because you don't have any
Speaker 1: like it's not like you can ask his friends. You
Speaker 1: don't know anybody that he knows.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, right exactly?
Speaker 1: If you Google search your name, is there like a
Speaker 1: weird news article that comes up of somebody who with
Speaker 1: a shared name.
Speaker 7: I don't even know if he knows my last name
Speaker 7: to google me at all, but also like, I don't
Speaker 7: think anything crazy comes up.
Speaker 6: Last name is Dahmer.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I swear I paid to have all those articles to
Speaker 4: let it y.
Speaker 7: Yeah. My best guess is that maybe one of his
Speaker 7: friends like thought I was someone else that they recognize me,
Speaker 7: you know, like dark bar. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: What that's happened in my friend group before. She was
Speaker 5: some other girl bro. Never mind, it could be that.
Speaker 1: Like a girl from the dating apps. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: just so bold and that you don't follow it up,
Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna be accused, just tell me what
Speaker 1: I've been accused of.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just so frustrating. Like I've texted him a
Speaker 7: few times being like, hey, I don't even need to
Speaker 7: go out again, I just want to know what are
Speaker 7: you upset about? And I don't get anything.
Speaker 1: Well, and you need to know for future dates because
Speaker 1: what if other men say the same thing and you
Speaker 1: still don't know what you know?
Speaker 2: You're how is your purposely using him for something?
Speaker 1: Just tell us now.
Speaker 4: At least mass texting him makes you sound super laid
Speaker 4: back and chill, so he has nothing to complain about.
Speaker 4: When we call him now and try and ask him
Speaker 4: why he didn't follow through with the second date that
Speaker 4: you had already arranged with him.
Speaker 1: Will we ask him what the hell that text message meant?
Speaker 4: Really, pile on and tell everything is done wrong in his.
Speaker 1: Life and his opinions that wicked suck y good.
Speaker 4: We will beat him into a second date update coming
Speaker 4: up right after this second date update. I can't believe
Speaker 4: we never caught the nursery rhyme connection because our listener, Jillian,
Speaker 4: I met a guy named Zach Zack and Jill. Zach
Speaker 4: and Jill you mean Jack and Jill, but it sounds
Speaker 4: it sounds pretty close.
Speaker 1: Okay, someone someone flugged preschool in this room and it
Speaker 1: was definitely not Zach.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to rhyme, Jill.
Speaker 4: Sorry for trying to draw a connection. I thought it
Speaker 4: was a cute story, right. They met at a bar.
Speaker 4: They were drinking pails of white claw together. Rhyme goes,
Speaker 4: Jill said great to another date, and Zach canceled last second. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's where we are today. Like a total jerk, Zach
Speaker 4: reached out to Jillian the day of their second meetup
Speaker 4: and said, I'm on to you. Date canceled.
Speaker 6: So Zach just is fetching a pail of water right now.
Speaker 1: He's rolling down a hill. I think white Claw.
Speaker 6: I got the nursery right now.
Speaker 4: The whole thing is confusing, especially to Jillian, because there
Speaker 4: was no explanation for what he meant by I'm on
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 1: It's so accusatory. I mean, the thing is is that
Speaker 1: although Jeff you're calling him a jerk, he thinks she's
Speaker 1: a jerk, is what it sounds like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we don't know why.
Speaker 1: Exactly I'm on to you.
Speaker 5: We'll raise an eyebrow to anybody. Yeah, walk up to
Speaker 5: me and say that right now, I'd be.
Speaker 1: Like, what you feel guilty? Yeah, no matter what do Yeah,
Speaker 1: my guess is that he's going to be coming in
Speaker 1: hot like a text like that.
Speaker 6: It's not going to be I just thought, what if
Speaker 6: it's his tagline? What if he answers it like I'm
Speaker 6: onto you?
Speaker 9: Hell?
Speaker 6: You know what if that's his thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably don't want to end up with him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: probably not dial his number. See how he answers the
Speaker 4: phone if he picks up, and hopefully get an explanation.
Speaker 4: Are you ready? I'm ready? So that was a question
Speaker 4: just to myself when he's talking to jeff.
Speaker 3: Okay, Hello, Hey is this Zach?
Speaker 8: Yes, who's speaking?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Hey, Zach, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: What is this Hello?
Speaker 4: Sorry? Sorry for that. She was so flirty with that question.
Speaker 4: This is there a radio show. We're called Brooke and
Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the Morning. This is a segment called second
Speaker 4: Date Update. Okay, you could help us because we have
Speaker 4: a listener who you met up with the other night.
Speaker 4: Her name is Jillian.
Speaker 1: You guys met at a bar.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, are you joking?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 8: No, yeah, she keeps texting me.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, I can hear your confused. Can I tell
Speaker 4: you what we know from what Jillian told us, because
Speaker 4: she said, you guys met at the bar the other night,
Speaker 4: you hit it off, ended up separating from your friend
Speaker 4: group to just hang out one on one, and then
Speaker 4: arranged a second meetup. Had it all planned out until
Speaker 4: the day of she got this cryptic text from you
Speaker 4: saying I'm on to you.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Wow, Okay, so she'd told you a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, honestly, she has no idea what
Speaker 1: you're referring to in that text message.
Speaker 8: Well, I can explain that that.
Speaker 4: Would be great, because she just does not understand what happened,
Speaker 4: if she did something wrong. We're just trying to give
Speaker 4: her some clarity.
Speaker 5: We asked, are you in the middle of some awful dealings?
Speaker 5: And she's like, I am not in the midst of evil,
Speaker 5: so you know what I mean. So she has no
Speaker 5: idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 8: Okay. So the day of the next date, I went
Speaker 8: back to the bar that we had met at and
Speaker 8: the spartender recognizes me and he says, hey, are you
Speaker 8: hanging out with Gillian again anytime soon?
Speaker 1: Oh? They know her at the bar. Oh, like she's
Speaker 1: a regular or something.
Speaker 8: Okay, well that's what I was thinking. So I say,
Speaker 8: what's going on? How do you know her? And he
Speaker 8: says that she calls the bar like every night, asking
Speaker 8: if there's any cute guys there.
Speaker 1: Oh really, this world just opened up? Are you serious?
Speaker 1: She calls it ahead of time, just to see if
Speaker 1: it's worth her time to go down there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, not just that place. Apparently she does that all
Speaker 8: over town.
Speaker 1: How do you know all over town?
Speaker 8: Yes, that's what the bartender said. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: So are you upset that you were the cute guy
Speaker 1: that the bartender reported on a compliment or.
Speaker 4: The fact that she calls the bar every single night
Speaker 4: going out.
Speaker 1: There, Like she doesn't go to the bar every night though.
Speaker 4: Unless there's cute guys.
Speaker 8: Enough.
Speaker 6: That's why she decided to go. From I'm staying home,
Speaker 6: I'm going out.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's worth you're going out for.
Speaker 3: That's a compliment she said to you.
Speaker 4: She mentioned that the night that she was going out
Speaker 4: and met you, she was considering staying in, but something
Speaker 4: changed her mind and she wanted to go out that
Speaker 4: night instead.
Speaker 8: Okay, so it.
Speaker 4: Turns out that something was a phone call to the
Speaker 4: bar to ask if there's any good looking guys there,
Speaker 4: but we didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Why does that make you so upset?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm just another cute guy at a bar to her.
Speaker 8: And it's just kind of shady that she is talking
Speaker 8: how spontaneous this whole thing was, when really she kind
Speaker 8: of planned the whole.
Speaker 1: It feels like you were deceived a little bit.
Speaker 5: It's nice to be the cute guy, but now it's
Speaker 5: like you don't feel special because every night there's another cute.
Speaker 2: Guy, and I just feel it's weird someone pretends they
Speaker 2: just met you randomly when they didn't acting a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: I didn't feel special at all and pretty weird to me.
Speaker 1: Now you should feel special. You're on a radio show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she calls us every day though she's before ever.
Speaker 4: Actually she specifically reached out so that we could get
Speaker 4: in contact with you to find this information out. That
Speaker 4: should mean something.
Speaker 7: Right, I guess.
Speaker 8: I mean now you have your reason.
Speaker 4: Uh okay, well, thank you for that, and we're thankful.
Speaker 4: But who I think is more appreciative is actually Jillian,
Speaker 4: who is on the other line listening to this conversation.
Speaker 6: It does soe like she's like always on the other line.
Speaker 1: Oh my, this is the only one actually making phone
Speaker 1: calls these days.
Speaker 3: Jillian, are you there?
Speaker 7: I'm here, and I have quite a bit to say
Speaker 7: in response to that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 7: When did ieme wrong? Listen? First of all, I do
Speaker 7: not call them every night like Friday and Saturday nights. Okay, okay,
Speaker 7: And like listen, if I'm at home, I want to
Speaker 7: have to like put on pants and like make up,
Speaker 7: and you know, like just to go to a bar
Speaker 7: when there's nobody there, and so I'll call be like, hey,
Speaker 7: is it popping. There are a lot of guys there,
Speaker 7: what's going on? But I was not lying you guys
Speaker 7: when I said I almost never approach anybody.
Speaker 6: Oh, she did mention that to us, Zach.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, are you still there, Zach?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not sure what to believe anymore. I mean
Speaker 8: she's saying one thing to you guys, the bytender says
Speaker 8: a different thing than me. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: This is all kind of shady, dude.
Speaker 1: It would have been such a good pickup line to
Speaker 1: walk up to him and be like, hey, I called
Speaker 1: ahead of time and they said you were here, You're.
Speaker 6: To go for that?
Speaker 7: Well it would Yeah, you're right, Maybe I'll just say it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I asked for hot guys and they delivered you.
Speaker 1: So tell us how that goes.
Speaker 4: Not as romantic to a guy's year as you probably think.
Speaker 1: Don't think anyone's will give a romance at a bar, Jeff.
Speaker 1: They're just looking to talk.
Speaker 4: More clearly, someone who is looking for romances, Zach. And
Speaker 4: he feels like he's not special, that he's just one
Speaker 4: of many guys. You would have taken any cute guy
Speaker 4: at the bar that night, and he just happened to
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 7: That is absolutely not accurate. I can see why he
Speaker 7: would think that, but it's it's so true.
Speaker 4: And we do appreciate you coming forward, Jillian and actually
Speaker 4: admitting that you did this, because I think a lot
Speaker 4: of people would deny it or try to like be like, no,
Speaker 4: I've never done that. You told us you were going
Speaker 4: to stay in, but you had a special feeling. And
Speaker 4: the special feeling was a call to the bar asking
Speaker 4: them to scope out hot guys for you.
Speaker 1: Which Alexis is definitely picking up.
Speaker 2: I think every bar should just start posting who's there
Speaker 2: online that.
Speaker 7: You should feel special. The bartender said, there were lots
Speaker 7: of cute guys, but you were the cutest, and you're
Speaker 7: the one I talked to.
Speaker 1: Oh look at that stand out. You're a standout cutie, Zach.
Speaker 8: It's the strange to pretend like it wasn't all set up.
Speaker 4: Well, now that all the information is out there, can
Speaker 4: we book ski ball again and actually follow through with
Speaker 4: the second date that you had already planned for each
Speaker 4: other before this misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, Zach, it shows what a on
Speaker 1: top organized woman she is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she definitely.
Speaker 1: Got her her life organized.
Speaker 5: And if you guys start dating, She'll call the bar
Speaker 5: make sure it's all ugly guys the next time she goes.
Speaker 9: That's a good point since I met you, so all right,
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm willing to try again.
Speaker 4: Okay, really wow, that was so heartfelt, Zach. I really
Speaker 4: buy it.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 6: I wonder if this is like setting her up and
Speaker 6: gets stood.
Speaker 4: Up now, because if you actually agree to meet up
Speaker 4: with her, we will pay for the date.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, again, it just.
Speaker 4: Feels like very like you're brushing us off.
Speaker 6: Yes, in the room, can feel something weird.
Speaker 2: I didn't expect big reactions from men anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach, be honest. It doesn't sound like you're actually
Speaker 4: gonna call her, are you?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Probably not?
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, look now they're both ghosting each other
Speaker 4: for each other. Yeah, two ghosts make a right, It's
Speaker 4: not it. I think it is Zach and Jill. That's
Speaker 4: how the fairy.
Speaker 1: Tale is Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 4: I swear, sometimes you can just tell when somebody isn't
Speaker 4: fully into it and they're just saying yes to go
Speaker 4: along with pure pressure.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to be in it, Yeah.
Speaker 6: But there was something in his voice. I was like, yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 1: He was still the hottest guy in the bar. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's why he doesn't carry has options, I think.
Speaker 4: But if someone's not into it, you don't want to
Speaker 4: go along with it. Honey, will you marry me? Fine? No.
Speaker 4: The great thing about it is both of them were
Speaker 4: actually honest with us. In the end, she admitted that
Speaker 4: she calls ahead to bars to scope cute guys out.
Speaker 4: He admits he'll say yes to dates when he doesn't
Speaker 4: really care to actually meet up with him.
Speaker 2: So many questions for the bar telling her type?
Speaker 1: Does she give photos? I know more about it?
Speaker 6: What does she get out of it? She get tipped more.
Speaker 1: It's a guy. It was a guy bar.
Speaker 6: It still is making.
Speaker 1: He just gets somebody else to come to the bar.
Speaker 1: Bars are always looking for more women.
Speaker 4: All the bartenders out there. Make sure you text into
Speaker 4: seven eight, five nine too when you have cute guys
Speaker 4: and the Alexis knows where and when to.
Speaker 6: Go, even if it's nine am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll be means to you.
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