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Speaker 1: five Masters, this is fifth Masters's one two of them,
Speaker 1: two time Major champion, two time Masters champion, and it
Speaker 1: just had that feel, right, I mean, it just it
Speaker 1: had kind of a Scotti Scheffler type. Feel the way
Speaker 1: that he has been playing, the form that he came
Speaker 1: into this tournament with, you just felt like it was
Speaker 1: his to lose in the form that he's in. And
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I haven't seen anyone play golf with
Speaker 1: this kind of ease and consistency, right, I just haven't.
Speaker 1: I just have not seen anyone play golf the way
Speaker 1: that he is playing. It's it's been an absolute joy
Speaker 1: to watch. It's been incredible to watch the way that
Speaker 1: he he just play. He makes the game look so easy.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks his footworks all over the place. His footwork
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent functional, right. He does exactly what
Speaker 1: all the long drive guys do. The feet go back
Speaker 1: and even though it doesn't look necessarily pretty, it's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent functional. But the biggest compliment I think that
Speaker 1: I've heard from Scotty Scheffler are about his game is
Speaker 1: I've starting to Shane Lowry last week and Shane O
Speaker 1: said he played with him in the final round of
Speaker 1: the bay Hill that the Bayhill Imitational that Scotty won,
Speaker 1: a paired together in the last group and he said,
Speaker 1: he's so impressive because it doesn't look like he's doing
Speaker 1: anything special. It's not overpowering the golf course with his length. Right,
Speaker 1: He's not putting you off the golf course with his potter. Right,
Speaker 1: He's not hitting you know, three fifty high bomb draws
Speaker 1: like Rory. You know, he doesn't have the firepower of
Speaker 1: Rory or John Robbie. Still hits it a long way,
Speaker 1: but those guys can overpower the golf course. But I
Speaker 1: think Scotty is kind of an old school combo of
Speaker 1: kind of like kind of like Ben Hogan. He just
Speaker 1: he's not going to beat himself. He's not going to
Speaker 1: He's just not going to beat himself. And even though
Speaker 1: he made some mistakes last week, maybe he didn't have
Speaker 1: his best stuff last week, but he started the final
Speaker 1: round seven under. Doesnt Birdie two Bertie's three? And I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the birdies he made
Speaker 1: the third round, right, he misses it pins kind of
Speaker 1: up on the top on the right, he misses it left.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a brutal chit. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: brutal It's a brutal one. Right, It's brutal for to
Speaker 1: get the ball close to that hoops, it goes in
Speaker 1: right and around the turn, right around the final round turn,
Speaker 1: when everybody was kind of making a run, Max homes
Speaker 1: making you know, he's right there. More Coward doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's going anywhere. They've got the par five. More
Speaker 1: Coward gets you know, Bertie's eight gets seven, chef Bertie's
Speaker 1: eight gets seven, and then Morkowen makes double on nine.
Speaker 1: Scotty makes Bertie on soy, Bertie's eight nine and ten.
Speaker 1: And in my head when he did that, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: he wins by four. And that's what he did. He
Speaker 1: got to eleven under, wins by four over lud big Alberg. Right,
Speaker 1: but Bertie's at eight, nine and ten. That's where you
Speaker 1: make your run, right, that's where you make a run.
Speaker 1: Made a bogie at eleven. But Bertie's thirteen, Berty's fourteen,
Speaker 1: Bertie sixteen, and it's game over. And listen Colin more Coowen.
Speaker 1: He's a two time major champion, right, he's right there.
Speaker 1: Max Homer. Everyone thinks that he's got the game to
Speaker 1: me be a major champion. But this lude big Alberg,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the first major he's ever played.
Speaker 1: He finished second. Joe Scovern, who have had in the
Speaker 1: pod before Longtime Catty for Ricky Fowler. You want to
Speaker 1: know how good lud big Augberg was. He didn't have
Speaker 1: a bag after Ricky Fowler and Joe parted ways, and
Speaker 1: he picked up Tom Kim, who everyone thinks is a stunt,
Speaker 1: who everyone thinks has big game. And as soon as
Speaker 1: lud big Alberg came available, Scoby went straight there and
Speaker 1: he told me, it's like Adam Scott in two thousand. Man,
Speaker 1: he's just you can just tell this kid he's going
Speaker 1: to be a superstar. I was so impressed with the
Speaker 1: way he played, to play in his first major, to
Speaker 1: play it against he'd never been there before, never played
Speaker 1: that tournament before, To do the things that he was
Speaker 1: able to do in that tournament was it was just
Speaker 1: so impressive. The golf swing is so impressive. But what
Speaker 1: more now can we say about Scotti Scheffer. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a legit. I mean he's got a legit chance
Speaker 1: to win every single major he plays in this year.
Speaker 1: I mean he could win all four, that's how good
Speaker 1: he is. Yes, the stars have to align for that, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's very, very difficult to do, but that's how good
Speaker 1: he's playing. And that's how good he is, and he
Speaker 1: just keeps things incredibly simple. He doesn't mess around with
Speaker 1: his golf swing. As golf coach Randy Smith, they've been together,
Speaker 1: you know, since he was a junior. They're very low key.
Speaker 1: Scotty's incredibly low key off the golf course. I think
Speaker 1: all of that helps him. And he's a very kind
Speaker 1: of unassuming kind of guy. But you could tell that
Speaker 1: he had game right, you could tell that he was good.
Speaker 1: We played Brooks, played a practice round with him in
Speaker 1: Aaron Hills. They share the same agent, Blake Smith, and
Speaker 1: this was when Scotty was still at the University of Texas.
Speaker 1: They share the same agent, Blake Smith. Blake Smith's father.
Speaker 1: One guess who his father is, Randy Smith. That's his coach. Right.
Speaker 1: Everything is simple, everything's kind of under the radar. You
Speaker 1: never hear him beat in his chest. You never hear
Speaker 1: any controversy, you never hear any you know, any negative
Speaker 1: things about Scotty. He's one of the most likable. He's
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, right, I mean, he's one of the most
Speaker 1: likable people on tour. But he's a competitor. He has
Speaker 1: a big time game and everybody was thinking that Rory
Speaker 1: was going to get. When Roy started winning majors early
Speaker 1: in his career, everybody thought Rory was going to get
Speaker 1: to double digits. I think Scotty Scheffler can get the
Speaker 1: double digits. I think he can win multiple I think
Speaker 1: he can clip off years where he wins, you know,
Speaker 1: two majors in a year like Brooks, Koepka has, like
Speaker 1: some of the great players, like Tiger Woods has. But
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anyone play golf like this in a
Speaker 1: long long time. And I haven't seen anyone make golf
Speaker 1: look as kind of stress free and easy as Scotti
Speaker 1: Scheffler had. We've had Gary Woodland on the pod, and
Speaker 1: was recording a pod earlier the day with Gary Woodland
Speaker 1: and some of the people from Volition, the clothing line.
Speaker 1: He wears we'll put that out later this summer. But
Speaker 1: he had a really unique take on kind of Scotty
Speaker 1: how he plays, how the course was set up. He
Speaker 1: got to Bryson for the first two rounds and he
Speaker 1: had a ringside seat to Bryson leading the tournament and
Speaker 1: playing some great golf, but wanted to kind of get
Speaker 1: his take on the course set up, what the week
Speaker 1: was like, and kind of get his kind of take
Speaker 1: on Scotty Scheffler. This is what Gary Woodland, who won
Speaker 1: the US Open out at Pebble Beach, this is what
Speaker 1: he had to say about a guy that's now a
Speaker 1: two time major champion. You've won a major champion in
Speaker 1: the US Open, you know how difficult it is to
Speaker 1: win these. That's two for Scotty now two at Augusta.
Speaker 1: He is playing golf g dub in a way right now,
Speaker 1: which I got to be honest with you, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anyone have this much control and make it look
Speaker 1: this easy in a while. What impresses you the most?
Speaker 1: And it was funny yesterday morning I was sitting having
Speaker 1: coffee with Shane Lowry and Shane said he played in
Speaker 1: the final group with him at Bayhill when he won,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, he hits good shots that every
Speaker 1: tour player hits. But he said the most impressive thing
Speaker 1: about what Scotty is doing right now, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if you agree is and this isn't a knock, is
Speaker 1: how unimpressive it looks Rory when he's in full flow.
Speaker 1: It's impressive because he's hitting the ball, he's doing things
Speaker 1: that other people can't do dj can do that. John
Speaker 1: Rahm can do that. They can overpower golf course. You've
Speaker 1: been able to do that in your career with the driver.
Speaker 1: But Scotty just hits so many quality golf shots that
Speaker 1: are twenty feet fifteen feet. They're not the hero shots.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think he's doing right now
Speaker 1: that is letting him play on this run.
Speaker 2: I'd agree with that assessment, especially when you're playing with
Speaker 2: him like he doesn't. It doesn't look amazing. I don't
Speaker 2: watch a ton of golf, and I watched this weekend
Speaker 2: and watching him play this weekend, I'm like, holy cow,
Speaker 2: this is unbelievable. Like he hits every shot where he's
Speaker 2: trying to hit it. The distance control is an absolute joke.
Speaker 2: And I've known Scotty since he was six years old.
Speaker 2: I worked with Randy Smith for a long time. He
Speaker 2: grew up there. I've seen him since he was six
Speaker 2: years old. And you can say this about a lot
Speaker 2: of kids, We're like, this kid got it, man, He's
Speaker 2: just absolutely got it from six, Like he grew up
Speaker 2: around tour pros out there watching Randy Smith give lessons.
Speaker 2: He's had putting lessons and shipping lessons with I mean
Speaker 2: practice competitions with tour pro since he was walking like
Speaker 2: the kid. And he just handles himself, and that's what
Speaker 2: I would respect him. Obviously, have a great family. He
Speaker 2: just handles himself so beautifully. He always says nothing's changing him,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't. Man, He's the same person now as
Speaker 2: he was when he was six years old, and I
Speaker 2: love that about him. I love Scotty to death, But
Speaker 2: watching him on TV, I will say, I mean, I
Speaker 2: played with Scotty earlier this year. I was so much
Speaker 2: more impressed with everything he does watching him on TV,
Speaker 2: because you know where the SHOT's supposed to go, and
Speaker 2: that's where he hits it. So when you're playing with him, like, ah,
Speaker 2: you hit it to time twenty ft fifteen feet, but
Speaker 2: watching it on TV, like that's the only place he
Speaker 2: can hit it, and he does it is distance controlled.
Speaker 2: Coming down the stretch yesterday was as good as I've seen,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe in a long long time.
Speaker 1: Well, I was watching, and I was watching with some people,
Speaker 1: and right around that front nine it got really really
Speaker 1: close and everybody's tied. It looked like Ludwig's gonna make
Speaker 1: a move. And I said, when he when Scotty ted
Speaker 1: off the back nine, I was like, guys, you realize
Speaker 1: he wins this by four And everybody's like, what the
Speaker 1: hell are you talking about. I'm like, I promise you
Speaker 1: he is gonna win this by four shots. Because going
Speaker 1: down to Amen corner and we saw this, it happened
Speaker 1: same thing, you know, that kind of Amen corner again.
Speaker 1: It was like when Tiger won in nineteen. We saw
Speaker 1: everyone else mess it up. And we know Scotty is
Speaker 1: playing Tiger like golf right now to where he's not
Speaker 1: gonna He's gonna make some mistakes, but he's not going
Speaker 1: to shoot himself in the foot. And for his nice
Speaker 1: and his kind of Tom Hanks is, he's got this
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks kind of care. He is a fierce competitor.
Speaker 1: Like his personality outwardly the all shucks kind of all American,
Speaker 1: good old boy, just always saying the right thing and smiling.
Speaker 1: It belibs the fact that he wants to rip your
Speaker 1: heart out and he is a fear s fearce competitor.
Speaker 2: And he said yesterday when he got done, he's getting
Speaker 2: ready to have a baby, which I'm so happy for
Speaker 2: him to have his first child. And he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: with my wife and my family and now my baby.
Speaker 2: You know, golf's going to be fourth on the list.
Speaker 2: But I love to compete. Yeah, he loves to step
Speaker 2: on people's throats, and that's what he's been doing really
Speaker 2: for the last two years. When it comes down right now,
Speaker 2: he's the best player in the world, and I don't
Speaker 2: think it's closed right now. He just loves to compete
Speaker 2: in battle, and I don't He's young, too, so hopefully
Speaker 2: he stays healthy and this could be a very dominant
Speaker 2: run for a long time.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, yeah, there's a guy that's one one
Speaker 1: a major before, you know, one of the longest hitters
Speaker 1: in the game, and he's just heaping heaping praise on
Speaker 1: Scotti Scheffler, how good of a player he is. And
Speaker 1: he's known him, as he said, I mean, he's known
Speaker 1: him a very very long time. He's known him since
Speaker 1: he was six years old. He used to work with Randy,
Speaker 1: and I do think that the simplicity is very very
Speaker 1: important in what he does. But it was a really
Speaker 1: really special Masters Tiger Woods, coming back making the cut. Listen,
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know what we were gonna get from Tiger,
Speaker 1: and you know when you watch him warm up, if
Speaker 1: you when you watch him, I mean, the weather did
Speaker 1: not help Tiger, right, I mean I think if if
Speaker 1: Tiger could have gotten some if he didn't have to
Speaker 1: play over twenty holes on that Friday morning, I think
Speaker 1: maybe we get a little bit out of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: the golf swings still looked good, and the golf swings
Speaker 1: that didn't look good. To me, it looked like it
Speaker 1: was more his body than anything else. The quick turnarounds.
Speaker 1: His trainer, Kolby Tellier, I've had him on the pod,
Speaker 1: did one with he and Joey d I talked to
Speaker 1: him and he said his body is is taking to
Speaker 1: the taking to the treatments better. He's able to recover faster.
Speaker 1: They still have to do a lot of work to
Speaker 1: get teed up ready, but I thought it was a
Speaker 1: win for Tiger, especially after what happened out a Riviera.
Speaker 1: I thought Tiger coming back and playing the way he
Speaker 1: played on a body that listen, it's still not great,
Speaker 1: it's still a work in progress, but it was impressive.
Speaker 1: The short game was a joke, right, I mean some
Speaker 1: of the short I mean he hit a he hit
Speaker 1: a little soft, little pitching wedge. I want to say
Speaker 1: it was either. I think it was Friday. He had
Speaker 1: a little pitching wedge in there from a short distance.
Speaker 1: One bounce stopped it. I mean it was just vintage Tiger.
Speaker 1: He had a beautiful, beautiful chip on eleven down the
Speaker 1: start of a man corner, hit it right on the
Speaker 1: front edge and just hit this beautiful little pitch checks in. Listen.
Speaker 1: Tiger's short game has always been a joke, right, It's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and he knows how to play, Augusta. I think right
Speaker 1: now it's a case of, you know, he feels like
Speaker 1: he can play, he feels like he can win, he
Speaker 1: feels like he can compete, but there is still a
Speaker 1: scent a part of his body that just doesn't allow it.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see. I mean, that is the
Speaker 1: toughest test that we're going to see for Tiger, right
Speaker 1: for tetub to get four rounds around there with the
Speaker 1: hills and Tiger, you know, in talking to his the
Speaker 1: guys on his team, the foot on a flat surface works,
Speaker 1: but when it starts to move around his right foot
Speaker 1: and he's on slopes and he's on hills and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, so I think Pinehurst sets up great for him.
Speaker 1: It's flat, it links truon where they'll play the Open
Speaker 1: Championship this year sets up great for him. Flat and
Speaker 1: there aren't a ton of hills at Valhalla where the
Speaker 1: PGA will be. So a really really good showing from
Speaker 1: from Tiger. Shout out to Max Holme. Maxhoma been on
Speaker 1: the pod before, but pretty impressive, right. I mean Max's game, Uh,
Speaker 1: the work that he's done with Mark Blackburn. I like
Speaker 1: his golf swing. I think he's gonna have more chances
Speaker 1: to win. He was right there at the turn. I
Speaker 1: mean he got at seven under two back Scottie Scheffler,
Speaker 1: you know when they were just making the turn and
Speaker 1: unfortunately bogie twelve or double bogie twelve and then you know,
Speaker 1: made some bogies coming in finishes four under seven back,
Speaker 1: but he was right there. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: really really good Masters. I mean, obviously with the Masters,
Speaker 1: given the current state of the PGA Tour versus Live,
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about how the live guys would play well.
Speaker 1: Ricen's leading after the first round finished, the top ten,
Speaker 1: Cam Smith came in not a lot of form, wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling well he finished the top ten. Teryl hatton top ten.
Speaker 1: So three of the guys, three guys on live finished
Speaker 1: the top ten. Yeah, they didn't win, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think if your narrative is that these guys can't compete,
Speaker 1: you got three guys on live playing in the top ten,
Speaker 1: and one thing I will say, I don't like to
Speaker 1: do this, but uh, last week I heard a lot
Speaker 1: of the commentators that were commentating on the broadcast saying
Speaker 1: that they didn't know how the live guys were playing
Speaker 1: because they weren't able to see them. If you are
Speaker 1: hired by a broadcast network to commentate on television or
Speaker 1: on radio at a major championship at the Masters, isn't
Speaker 1: it your job to kind of know what everybody's doing
Speaker 1: and how everybody's been playing. But I heard so many
Speaker 1: times last week, Yeah, we just don't know how these
Speaker 1: guys are playing. If you want to know how they're playing,
Speaker 1: you can find out. I mean, if Duke gets to
Speaker 1: the final, gets to the national championship game for March Madness,
Speaker 1: and you've got a team that isn't a big team,
Speaker 1: isn't a big conference, and makes Cinderella run plays not
Speaker 1: in a big conference. Isn't playing on TV all the time?
Speaker 1: Is it acceptable for you to go, Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: have never seen them play. You've got to do your homework, right,
Speaker 1: You've got to do some work. And I thought last
Speaker 1: week it was kind of a joke that a bunch
Speaker 1: of the commentators were just like, yeah, we just we
Speaker 1: don't know how they're playing. If you don't know how
Speaker 1: the guy's on Liver playing, that's because you're choosing not
Speaker 1: to watch. And that's and listen, that's fine, that's your choice.
Speaker 1: But if it's your job to commentate, shouldn't you know
Speaker 1: and shouldn't you do some homework and shouldn't you want
Speaker 1: to know these guys are playing seen as they're gonna
Speaker 1: be in this this first major. So I just thought
Speaker 1: that was a bit I thought that was a bit much,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I saw I heard a
Speaker 1: bunch of people say, yet you know the guys on
Speaker 1: live from Yeah, we don't really know how they're playing.
Speaker 1: You can find out how they're playing, and yeah, if
Speaker 1: you don't think the competition they're playing against is is
Speaker 1: worthwhile And don't think that that gets them ready. I
Speaker 1: think that says more about you than it does about them.
Speaker 1: There are enough good players, major champions, some of the
Speaker 1: best players in the world, former world number ones. You know,
Speaker 1: the guys playing on live in twenty four versus the
Speaker 1: first year. It's very different, and there's some great players there.
Speaker 1: There's some great players everywhere in golf. There's some great
Speaker 1: players on the PJ Jar. My point in all of
Speaker 1: this is, if you're going to commentate, it's your job
Speaker 1: to do your homework, and I think some people just
Speaker 1: kind of hid behind the fact that, oh, well, we
Speaker 1: don't know how to live guys are playing and we
Speaker 1: never watch them on TV. You didn't do your homework
Speaker 1: and you didn't do your job. In my opinion, some
Speaker 1: really good other stories, Like I said, I was really
Speaker 1: impressed with the way that Colin Morikawa plays. Listen, the
Speaker 1: guy's won two majors. If you would have won last week,
Speaker 1: he's one win away from the Grand Slam. Nice little
Speaker 1: return to form for Tyroll Hatton. I mean he said
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week or at the end
Speaker 1: of the live week in Durrau, he had no chance
Speaker 1: to win, and the guy finish his top ten. I
Speaker 1: love him. He's hilarious. Will zlatorres good to see him
Speaker 1: back playing. The back looks better. The guy seems to
Speaker 1: show up in major championships, which leads me to believe
Speaker 1: that he's got big time game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If you if your game shows up in the majors,
Speaker 1: you can play, You can really really play, you can
Speaker 1: get the job done, you can hit the right shots.
Speaker 1: He's had a bunch of second place finishes in majors,
Speaker 1: and now that he healthy, I think we will see
Speaker 1: him start to show the form that everybody expects of him.
Speaker 1: So after a long layoff, it was really really cool
Speaker 1: to kind of see him come back. But as I
Speaker 1: said last week, the golf course for me is always
Speaker 1: the star of the show. It is always the star
Speaker 1: of what everybody does. And yeah, I mean it's just
Speaker 1: such an iconic, iconic golf course. And the way that
Speaker 1: you have to play the golf course, the way that
Speaker 1: you have to get around the golf course, it's you
Speaker 1: have to think your way around it. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why it's so difficult, right, It's that's why it's
Speaker 1: so hard to put on a green jacket. It is
Speaker 1: much of a test of what you're doing on the
Speaker 1: golf course as much as what you're doing off the
Speaker 1: golf course, and I think that is a big part
Speaker 1: of the story every single year. Yeah, it's a great
Speaker 1: test and we have a great champion in Scotty Scheffler.
Speaker 1: I was recording another podcast which Gary Woodland is going
Speaker 1: to be a part of Out of a come out
Speaker 1: this summer, but Gary talked about Scotty Scheffler. He talked
Speaker 1: about the conditions and he was in that kind of
Speaker 1: late early wave on Thursday, and it was really cool
Speaker 1: to kind of get someone he played with Bryson the
Speaker 1: first two days, got to get his take on how
Speaker 1: Bryson's playing, but he had a ringside seat for what
Speaker 1: the conditions were on the most difficult day. And I
Speaker 1: think it's really cool that we get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: listen to Gary Woodland talk about the conditions in that
Speaker 1: kind of craziness that was, you know, late Thursday, early Friday.
Speaker 1: Here's what Gary had to say about those conditions. G
Speaker 1: dub tell us your thoughts. How hard was that golf
Speaker 1: course on Friday?
Speaker 2: It was as hard as I've ever seen. I was
Speaker 2: my twelfth time playing the Masters earlier in the week.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely perfect. It was obviously it's always in
Speaker 2: good shape. But it was absolutely perfect. The golf course
Speaker 2: was firm and fast. I'd never seen it that firm
Speaker 2: and fast earlier in the week. And then obviously the
Speaker 2: weather that they were expected to get most of it
Speaker 2: went south, so that we dodged that bullet, and then
Speaker 2: the golf course when the wind came in, it really
Speaker 2: dried out what rain we did get, and it was
Speaker 2: it was brutal. I mean, it was as tough. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Scotty played amazing. I saw Friday was his highest round
Speaker 2: of the year. He had seventy two, but it was
Speaker 2: probably his best round of the year. I mean, all
Speaker 2: things considered, it was firm and fast, and when the
Speaker 2: wind comes in blowing like that and gusting, it was
Speaker 2: it was. It was a tough test for sure.
Speaker 1: You know, getub for everyone listening. The rounds on Friday
Speaker 1: took you know, over six hours. People watch that and
Speaker 1: they're like, how can rounds take that long? When you're
Speaker 1: out there in that type of wind on that type
Speaker 1: of golf course. One of the hardest golf courses ever created.
Speaker 1: The way they set it up for you all to
Speaker 1: play is so so difficult. What was the difficulty for
Speaker 1: you and your caddy. Butchery out there. Was it getting
Speaker 1: the wind? Was it waiting for the wind gusts to
Speaker 1: die down? I mean, obviously there are so many holes
Speaker 1: at Augusta get up where precision with yardages twelve, thirteen, fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: all of those holes on the back you have to
Speaker 1: be perfect with where you're landing the golf ball, which
Speaker 1: is made when it's blown forty it's so difficult to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here, I believe we need to play faster. I
Speaker 2: get all that. I don't know if we could have
Speaker 2: played faster on Friday, I really don't. It was gusting
Speaker 2: and blowing so hard. When there's so much at stake,
Speaker 2: six hours, it seemed like we're out there for four years,
Speaker 2: trust me, especially when you're hitting as many golf shots
Speaker 2: as I was hitting. But like you said, the gusting,
Speaker 2: the precision you got to have on twelve, you got
Speaker 2: to have even on the t shots on thirteen. Now
Speaker 2: when they move that back and you got all the
Speaker 2: trouble left fifteen, you're coming in, you know, even in
Speaker 2: whether it's the wet shot or you're coming in for
Speaker 2: a second shot over that water. If you miss it
Speaker 2: anywhere you're in it's just the end of the world.
Speaker 2: So it was absolutely brutal, and the gusting trying to putt,
Speaker 2: you know, when the greens are so fast, I mean
Speaker 2: you're worried. You obviously want to make it, and you're like,
Speaker 2: if I miss this, this goes two feet by the hole.
Speaker 2: If it's down wind, I mean, it's going sixty feet away.
Speaker 2: So it's just there was so much more that went
Speaker 2: into it than just playing a normal around of golf.
Speaker 2: I mean, my ball on sixteen. I had had a
Speaker 2: six footer on sixteen that blew sixty feet away twice
Speaker 2: and we had to replace it both times. I mean
Speaker 2: it was just gus coming and you're trying to putt
Speaker 2: and you're backing off. I mean it was. It was
Speaker 2: as hard a round of golf conditions wise, that I've
Speaker 2: played in for sure.
Speaker 1: Were you surprised? I mean was there a point, Gub
Speaker 1: at some point where you guys and the group were like,
Speaker 1: I mean, should we even be playing right now, given
Speaker 1: the fact that the balls were moving and stuff, and
Speaker 1: you guys are so worried about addressing a ball on
Speaker 1: a putting green and grounding your putter, and then the
Speaker 1: thing moves and stuff. I mean, was there any talk
Speaker 1: of do they think that maybe they're going to pull
Speaker 1: you guys off the golf course just because it was
Speaker 1: so windy.
Speaker 2: Oh? We talked about that very early in the round,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think it was tough because the
Speaker 2: conditions were tough throughout the day. I think if it
Speaker 2: would have been soft in the morning the wind wise
Speaker 2: and then picked up later in the day, maybe they
Speaker 2: would have stopped it. But everyone played in it. I mean,
Speaker 2: we got on eighteen green, which was our last hole.
Speaker 2: In the front third of that green was complete white
Speaker 2: with sand and somebody's like, well, did they top dress
Speaker 2: this green to slow it down? I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: coming from the bunker like this is blowing out. I mean,
Speaker 2: was I backed off on eighteen because I was getting
Speaker 2: hit with leaves in the face when they're blowing so
Speaker 2: hard while you're playing, Like it was it was madness
Speaker 2: out there. They were very good and having blowers on
Speaker 2: all the greens because the greens were covered every group.
Speaker 2: They're blowing the greens off in between groups because of
Speaker 2: the leaves everything on the green. It was it was madness,
Speaker 2: But I don't think it could have blown a mile
Speaker 2: hour harder without them stopping, they would have had to
Speaker 2: stop it. I mean it was it was very, very close,
Speaker 2: I think to be in stopped multiple times.
Speaker 1: You played with Bryce in the first two rounds. He
Speaker 1: was leading after the first round GEDV. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: Bryson used to be a Cobra puma guy, so you've
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time around him. I think his
Speaker 1: game has changed a lot in the last three years
Speaker 1: from when he was trying to do the long drive.
Speaker 1: Would you agree that he seems much more the complex.
Speaker 1: I think he's a better player now than when he
Speaker 1: won the US Open. I think he has much more
Speaker 1: command and control over what he's doing. What did you
Speaker 1: see out there from Bryson that you noticed was different?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he's he was in much more control
Speaker 2: of everything than he was doing than I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, he he wasn't trying to overpowered. I was
Speaker 2: listening to him and his gutty talked like on eighteen
Speaker 2: it was straight down wind, blowing forty on Thursday and
Speaker 2: he was talking, Oh, the bunker's only three forty, should
Speaker 2: we try to take it over? And I'm like, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: try to hit it over. And he ends up hitting
Speaker 2: five wood into a bunker that was still three hundred
Speaker 2: yards away. He hits five wood, and I mean what
Speaker 2: he's able to do is unbelievable. But what people don't
Speaker 2: talk about much is he's been one of the best
Speaker 2: putters in the world for a long time. I mean,
Speaker 2: he absolutely rolls it so nice. It allows him to
Speaker 2: tinker and to do other things because he putts it
Speaker 2: so good. And that was unfold display. He rolled it
Speaker 2: so nice, but he drove it well. He just was
Speaker 2: in control. He didn't try to do sometimes before he can.
Speaker 2: Maybe he had so much power and speed that he
Speaker 2: tried to do some things maybe that weren't the best
Speaker 2: at the time, but because he could, he didn't try
Speaker 2: to do any of that. Last week he was in
Speaker 2: control of his game, which was it was impressive to watch.
Speaker 1: So Gary woodland U champion out at Pebble Beach. Talking
Speaker 1: about Bryson d Chambeau got his first major at wingfoot.
Speaker 1: I think Bryson's matured a lot. I think Bryson's learning
Speaker 1: how to play. There's always going to be the scientist
Speaker 1: in Bryson. He had, you know, new irons last week
Speaker 1: that have bulge on the toe. Those just got approved.
Speaker 1: He's always going to be tinkering, and like g Doub said,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a great putter. I mean he's always
Speaker 1: been a great putter, so believe it or not. If
Speaker 1: the ball striking and he can hit greens, Bryson's a
Speaker 1: threat around Augusta. I mean we saw that and one
Speaker 1: of the leaders through the first two rounds. So cool
Speaker 1: to hear someone that played with him kind of get
Speaker 1: a gauge of where his game was, but also get
Speaker 1: a gauge on what it was like out there playing
Speaker 1: and all of that.
Speaker 2: Win.
Speaker 1: I know might be a bold statement, but a Scotti
Speaker 1: Scheffler is still sitting on two majors in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be shocked. I expect him to be two more.
Speaker 1: I think by the end of twenty twenty five, I
Speaker 1: could see Scotty Schefler with four, five, six majors. That's
Speaker 1: how good this kid is. That is how good he plays.
Speaker 1: The game is just simple. He makes it look easy.
Speaker 1: Everyone says the putting is the weakness and was going
Speaker 1: in the final round. I think it was mid thirties
Speaker 1: and putting middle of you know nothing, fancy he was
Speaker 1: what twenty fourth and strokes gained approach, so iron game
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily important on point. The guy wins by four.
Speaker 1: The guy wins by four with not his best stuff,
Speaker 1: not firing on all cylinders. And I one hundred percent
Speaker 1: expect Scotty Scheffler on the back nine on Sunday in
Speaker 1: the PGA, in the in the US Open and the
Speaker 1: Open Championship in Scotland at Troon, I expect him to
Speaker 1: have a chance to win with nine holes to play.
Speaker 1: That's just he is that guy. Now, he is the favorite.
Speaker 1: He is the guy to beat. And I don't even
Speaker 1: think it's close. Who's the best player in the world
Speaker 1: right now? It's I mean it's not close. It's Scotty
Speaker 1: Scheffler And shout out to his caddy, Teddy. Scott. Teddy
Speaker 1: is now caddied and been a part of four Masters victories,
Speaker 1: two for Bubba Watson, two for Scotty Scheffler, and I
Speaker 1: think he has made an enormous impact on Scotty. They're
Speaker 1: very similar type people, both on the golf course and
Speaker 1: off the golf course. Scotty's kind of a calm guy
Speaker 1: on the golf course. Teddy Scott's kind of a calm guy.
Speaker 1: They're perfect for each other for a caddy combination. Scotty
Speaker 1: and Teddy Scott are perfect for each other. They are
Speaker 1: the brooks Keka Ricky Elliott, you know player caddy. Those
Speaker 1: two are perfect for each other. Scotty Scheffler and Teddy
Speaker 1: Scott are absolutely perfect. I think he's made a big
Speaker 1: impact on his game. Yeah, Scotty hits all the shots,
Speaker 1: but I definitely think that the addition to Scotty Scheffler's
Speaker 1: bag in bringing on a couple of years ago Teddy
Speaker 1: Scott was a genius move and is paid dividends, and
Speaker 1: Scotty Scheffler is going to make Teddy Scott a very, very,
Speaker 1: very wealthy individual because he's just gonna keep winning golf tournaments.
Speaker 1: Are we close now to maybe saying this is a VJ.
Speaker 1: Singh type run, whereas that year VJ won what like
Speaker 1: seven nine tournaments in the year. I mean, the sky
Speaker 1: is the limit for Scotty Scheffler. You just he's gonna
Speaker 1: have chances to win Rory with another chance to try
Speaker 1: and get the Grand Slammed, try and get the elusive
Speaker 1: green jacket. Made some changes, went out and spent some
Speaker 1: time with my old man. I don't know windy conditions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Rory even though he is from Ireland. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not a win specialist like a guy like Darren
Speaker 1: Clark is or a guy like Shane Lowry is. So
Speaker 1: when the conditions get tough at times. For as great
Speaker 1: as he is, and you guys have heard me talk
Speaker 1: about this, I mean I think Roy macro was the
Speaker 1: guy's one of the greatest players of this generation and
Speaker 1: his game is as good as it gets, but there
Speaker 1: are times where you know he doesn't get it done
Speaker 1: where everybody expects him to. And listen, this is not
Speaker 1: new ground. I mean Greg Norman. Regardless what you think
Speaker 1: about Greg Norman in twenty twenty four, you can put
Speaker 1: all that beside. Greg Norman was a hell of a
Speaker 1: golfer and he never won the Masters, and the Masters
Speaker 1: was a golf course which you would think would be
Speaker 1: set up perfectly for his game. I can't think of
Speaker 1: a better golf course set up for the way Rory
Speaker 1: McRoy plays golf. Tom Watson, Arnold Palmer never won the PGA.
Speaker 1: They were great players, they won multiple majors. They are
Speaker 1: seen as some of the greatest players of all times.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just don't win all the tournaments that you're
Speaker 1: supposed to, and some of the ones that you want
Speaker 1: the most maybe are just a little out of your reach.
Speaker 1: So there's a little surprise. I thought Rory would play
Speaker 1: a little better. I thought a little bit of the
Speaker 1: confidence boost with some of the stuff that he was
Speaker 1: working with my dad, but charman on but the Achilles
Speaker 1: heel right now tends to be Augusta for Rory. And
Speaker 1: I think this trip he tried. I heard rumors no family,
Speaker 1: just came up by himself, he was going to try
Speaker 1: and do that. I still think he's gonna win one.
Speaker 1: I don't know when, I don't know how. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna win one because of the game he has, Right,
Speaker 1: there's a big difference between someone that's you know, never
Speaker 1: won a major, hasn't really won a lot of golf tournaments,
Speaker 1: and you think, yeah, they could win a major. Yeah
Speaker 1: anybody could win one. I mean sure, but you just
Speaker 1: think that Rory McRoy, you just think he's gonna win
Speaker 1: a Masters. But every year that goes by, the pressure
Speaker 1: gets more and more. So Scotti Scheffler is the Master's
Speaker 1: Champion two time Masters champion, two time major winner, number
Speaker 1: one in the world. And I'll keep saying it. The
Speaker 1: guy's just gonna keep winning majors. He's gonna keep winning majors,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be number one in the
Speaker 1: world for a little bit more than a minute. Listen,
Speaker 1: Augusta is always a great week. It was great TV
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of golf. I think I said
Speaker 1: this last week. We needed this right, We needed a major.
Speaker 1: We needed a major. And listen, We're gonna keep having majors,
Speaker 1: and whether you like it or not, you are gonna
Speaker 1: have live guys that play well because they're good players.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just it's just that's a reality. It's
Speaker 1: not my opinion. That's facts. And the facts back it
Speaker 1: up in that you've got three guys inside the top ten.
Speaker 1: So and I keep saying this. You don't have to choose.
Speaker 1: You can watch your golf wherever you want to watch golf.
Speaker 1: If you want to watch great players, you watch guys
Speaker 1: play on the PGA Tour. You can watch people play
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