1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you were listening to the 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast This week. On the podcast, my guest 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: is Michael Meyer of Beaumont Etiquette. That is correct, you 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: heard me. We are talking about etiquette. The old former 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: etiquette is done and gone and the new modern etiquette 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: is almost more like life coaching to make you the 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: best version of yourself. Michael's company offers things like business, fashion, social, 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: and even dining etiquette. She even recently collaborated with Venmo 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: to teach people the proper etiquette for using their Venmo app. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: For instance, if you ask someone on a first date, 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: why you shouldn't Venmo request them after to split the bill. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: This blew my mind, but apparently it happens, and Mica 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: is here to tell us all about it. Here's Mica. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: I am here with Michael Meyer, who is an etiquette expert, 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I can't even say that, etiquette expert and the founder 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: of Beaumont Etiquette. Hi, Mica hire. So you specialize in 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: basically all kinds of etiquette, right, yes? So we um 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of, I especially in Western etiquette. So um within 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: that is everything from dining etiquette to social etiquette, business etiquette, 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: UM for adults and kind of big corporations all the 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: way down to like a children and a teen's program, 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: so kind of everything in between. Okay, can you talk 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: me through a little bit of each one of those? 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: What kind of things are you teaching? People? Sure? So okay, 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: So my kind of my company split into two, so 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: we teach half the week at the Plaza Hotel, so 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: we run all the Plaza Hotel finishing program um kind 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: of programs over there, and then we teach privately one 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: to one and then corporate. So kind of how it 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: works is you choose the topic. So first you say, okay, 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: do I want a group class or do I want 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: one to one? And then once you you choose that, 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: then you tell us what type of etiquette. So is 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: social etiquette? Is it dining? Um? So social etiquette could 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: be anything from we have stylists and makeup and hair 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: some more like finishing, you know, finishing school style, to 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: all the way down to like I go to um, 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to on a date. It could 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: be dating etiquette. It could be fitting, it could be protect, 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: could be walking in heels, it could be think about 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Networking is probably the number one thing we talk about 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: so you're at a party, you're meeting people, how do 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: you not on the third conversation but keep it going? Um, 44 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: And people can choose different styles of training, so they're 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: either like, Okay, I just want like nicey, nicey, really gentle, 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: tell me everything densely, or I'm coming in I want 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: a full revamp. I want head to toe styled. I 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: want to come out like a new person. So it's 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: really fun and it's um and it's very modern too, 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: so you can just kind of do that within all 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: the different topics. That's what I was gonna say. I 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: when I think of etiquette, I think of old school, 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: like I don't even know what's a reference, but you 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: know that you would just be teaching people how to 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: act properly. But this sounds almost even more like a 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: makeover in a way. It is. It is exactly that 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: in so many ways. UM. You know, if for instance, 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: dining is probably one of our bigger and probably half 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: the people come for dining initially and then they kind 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: of tack on other subjects. But if you know, you're like, listen, 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: I am a professional, or I kind of think I 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: know which forkron I have to pick up. But I'm 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: not sure. Kind of the whole goal of program is 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: that you leave more confident than when you walked in, 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: and you know, we could take you to a five 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: star restaurant and you have twelve courses in front of you, 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: and then at the end of it, you know exactly 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: what to do, how do everything, And it's like it's 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: just they're they're life skills really in the end, right, 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually do think those skills are super important, 71 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: especially in business. I mean I think I did. It 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: was a maybe a business etiquette class, but they taught 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: us the dining stuff when I was in college, and 74 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I didn't realize the little tools that I took with 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: me from that. I still use them now when I'm 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: going on business meetings or it just makes you lot 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: more comfortable. That's that's exactly. It's. I always think you 78 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: can't really focus on the conversation or or closing a 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: business deal or whatever it is if you're too paranoid 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: about which for kronife to pick up, or am I 81 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: saying this correctly, or you know, whatever it might be. 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: So if someone came to you and was, you know, 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: wanting to learn dining etiquette, obviously we've talked through that. 84 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: What if they were saying like I just needed an overhaul, 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: I need a reaving up, you would help them to 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: what clean out their closet kind of thing, Um, you know, 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the stylist if that's what they wanted. So there's a 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: there's like almost like you know, like a menu that 89 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: they came from. So yeah, so we have a stylist 90 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: on the team and she literally will go through your 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 1: closet and pull out everything that you shouldn't you should 92 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: wear again, you need write things that maybe you know 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: you should rethink and then you know, and then help 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: your shop. You give her a budget like my budget 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: is are my budget is whatever it is it could be, 96 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: and then she goes in shops for you. Um. Yeah, 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: it's really really quite fun. And you know if you're 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: like listen, I'm just you know, I can't meet someone, what, like, 99 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: what's going on? Why is this happening? Um? Then we 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: go in and it's a very honest, but it's very positive. 101 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: It's all positive. It's um. We go in and say okay, here, 102 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, fill out this questionnaire. We have a consultation 103 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: and we say okay, here that's what you need and 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 1: then to help you get out there and meet people 105 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: to be confident, and so it's kind of like a 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: problem solving thing within a finishing program. Yeah, it sounds 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: a little bit like life coaching too. There's a lot 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: of that. There's we actually have a life coach on 109 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: our team, um, who is phenomenal. So it's it's it's 110 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: way more than what people think it is. And it 111 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: started just basic, basic classes and it's kind of grown 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: from there. But it's super modern. I always say, if 113 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: we don't believe it, we don't teach it. So it's um, 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, if I say where white year round, in winter, white, 115 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: summer white, you know, it's such an antiquated rule. Um. If. 116 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm also very much of feminist in in the way 117 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: that I teach, so it's kind of I have, um, 118 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, like it's very gender neutral, a lot of 119 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: the modern etiquette. Um. It's just really really interesting and 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: I think people come and they're a bit mind blown 121 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: about what they didn't know. They didn't know. Yeah, if 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense, it makes total sense. I mean I 123 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: just keep going back to the dining in my head. 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of little like tricks 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: that I learned about, like turning your fork over when 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: you're done to the server knows you know it's time 127 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: to take your plate, or little things like that that yeah, 128 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: you just don't know, but once you know, it makes 129 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: all of that so much easier. Exactly you will if 130 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: you're ever in New York, please come come to suppose 131 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: that we're working there every single week with the programs. 132 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: You have to come be our guests and kind of 133 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: we could do like something for everybody to kind of 134 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: learn if they can't make it theos themselves. But it's 135 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: you're right, and once you learn those little techniques, which 136 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: are kind of hard to describe over a podcast, when 137 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: you see the visuals, it's it's pretty, it's they're they're 138 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: really great to know. So how did you get into this? 139 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: Like what made you choose etiquette? Um? Do you know 140 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: what it started out of? Insecurity? So I was an 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: American working and living in London, and um, I'm from 142 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Florida originally apparently modest household, and I was looking around 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: at all these I was specializing in American companies going 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: global for the first time, so I had American clients, 145 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: but I realized that I was the only person at 146 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty person company that was American, that 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: was only you know, I was holding my silver word differently, 148 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I was didn't know how to hold a wine glass. 149 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: I didn't I just wasn't where everybody else in the 150 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: Western world was outside of America. So I took my 151 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: first etiquette class and I was just I was so 152 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: blown away and I loved it. So when everybody on 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: Fridays to get their paycheck and onno pop shop, I 154 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: would kind of save up and squirrel away for the 155 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: next etiquette class. And it kind of went from there, 156 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: and then I started teaking words I spread that was 157 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: with the American XAX community that I was teaching these classes, 158 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: and I was just in for free, just for fun, 159 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: and then I started getting more and more requests, and 160 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: then it kind of went from there, and so I 161 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: quit my job and opened Themont Etiquette in London. And 162 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: my training is very, very formal, So I trained under 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: a former member of the Queen of England's household staff 164 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: in Buckingham Palace and then I moved to Slipper and 165 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I went to a finishing school there, but I wanted 166 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: to when I opened Beaumont, my big goal was that 167 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: it was relatable, like you're still learning the most formal etiquette, 168 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: but in a relatable, informal way. Um, that is not 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: intimidating and it's it's just fun, right. See that when 170 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: you said the queen, that's exactly what I think of 171 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: when I think of etiquette. So I'm glad you're putting 172 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: a modern sten on this exactly. And if you don't, 173 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: people just shut it out. You know, the word etiquette 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: generally has a lot of stigma to it. Yeah, I 175 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: could definitely see that. So you can find all of 176 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: that at Beaumont at kuit dot com. I actually found 177 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: you through Venmo, which sounds weird, but you collaborated with 178 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Venmo to talk about venmo etiquette, which I want to 179 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: talk through this because I was telling you earlier. I 180 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: read a bunch of the tips and I thought, you know, 181 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to dating, I have heard horror 182 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: stories about this stuff, and I think people need to 183 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: know how to operate Venmo. Yes, I mean it's really 184 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: it is so true, and it's something that everybody uses 185 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: vendo and now it's kind of to the point where 186 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: people use it as an adjectate. It's like oh, just 187 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Venmo me and and there was you know, every etiquette 188 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: book you've ever picked up in the past has never 189 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: kind of addressed it because it's so new, so it's 190 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: kind of there's there's no road maps. So I think 191 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: that this kind of conversation started because venmo um wanted 192 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: to find out from its community views there's what day 193 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Dean's kind of appropriate or what they thought in a 194 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: situation was fair. And I always teach um where Venmo 195 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and I kind of really line is I teach the 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: etiquette is I always say, throw every single thing you 197 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: think about etiquette and strip it away and then remember 198 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: etiquette is just about kindness and respect. But that's all 199 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: it is. Thinking about other people first. UM. So even 200 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: like the way you present yourself, you're thinking about how 201 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: you want to you know, you want to show respect 202 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: to the other persons, show that you put effort into yourself. 203 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: So the same thing with venmo, it's what is respectful 204 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: to the other users in the community. So they asked 205 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of really good questions that are kind of 206 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: hot topics to the community, and they came back um 207 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: with their answers, and I couldn't wait to hear what 208 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: people had to say. It's really fascinating. I will say 209 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: the article is fascinating what they know they interviewed. I 210 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: think it was like over a thousand Venemo users And 211 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: this sounds weird, and I think people could be listening 212 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: like what there's venmo etiquette? Okay, But when you really 213 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: start to think about it, This is why I was 214 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: so interested in this, because when it comes to dating 215 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: or requesting money for someone or like in your friendships. 216 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: The reason I use venmo is a lot of times, 217 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: like we go out to dinner and instead of like 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: nobody cares carriers cash anymore, you know, so instead of 219 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: breaking up the bill that way, you just venmo one 220 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: person or a trip or things like that. But there 221 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: have been instances that I've been in where it gets 222 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: a little awkward because either someone doesn't pay or you 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: have to send the requests and it's like the vimo 224 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: article comes out with okay to pay within forty eight hours, 225 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: um when you go on a first date. That was 226 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: the big one. Do you see people really requesting money 227 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: after a first date? Yes, you see this way more 228 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: than you would probably think. This is absurd to me, 229 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: by the way, so we we um, you know, since 230 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: I started working to cinema, I have heard I've heard 231 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: so many stories of people saying, oh my gosh, that's 232 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: happened to me to think back thing and I think 233 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: the you knows and what this is for everyone listening 234 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: is imagine if you go on a date with someone 235 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: and say, and you have a nice dinner and you 236 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: think everything is fine, and then twenty four hours later 237 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: or you get home and you open up your phone 238 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: and there's a venmo request for half the bill, and 239 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: it's like that shock of what did that just happen? Um? 240 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: And I think that is one of the etiquette tips 241 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: that you know, formulated from this whole experience was just 242 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: no surprises, you know. It's it's whether you're with a 243 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: group of friends or you're on a date, don't just 244 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, don't just ever um, you know, without don't 245 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: not communicate with the people that you are you're connected 246 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: to on Venmo. So it's it's kind of like letting 247 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: the person know, Hey, to take the concert is on Friday. 248 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Tickets are this much money. I can pick up your 249 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: ticket and then then when you after or you know, 250 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: you can vendom me after. It's like communicating that's all 251 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: it really is. UM. But the actual on the for 252 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: a date. The kind of the survey came back into 253 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: the six venom users didn't think it was appropriate to 254 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: take someone and date and then then requests them, So 255 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: at least I do agree with the community. UM, but 256 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: everyone for the most part, would would say it's pretty shocking. 257 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, if someone ven my requested me surprisingly 258 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: after a date, I'm not going on a second date. 259 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: That's not happening. I think the survey said that UM 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: of the users agree that bill should be split, but 261 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: unless it's just discussed ahead of time, the person who 262 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: asked for the date should pay. Exactly. That's exactly I 263 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: completely agree, UM, And it's I said that generally speaking. 264 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: So when you go on a date with someone, I 265 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: think whoever invited the other person out, whoever chose the restaurant, 266 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: often picks the wine, is the person that should pay 267 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: because you've chosen something within your budget. So that is 268 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I really feel pretty firmly about that. I 269 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: would say, my dad raised me, and he become like 270 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: a he. When you're on a date, you always offer, UM, 271 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't want you to ever, you know, come across 272 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: as expectant, but and it only you know, and and 273 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I feel empowered by doing that. But I also think 274 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: if at that moment, but I mean, I mean, you've 275 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: heard it all. I just that's how I feel. But 276 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: I generally think if if I go on a date 277 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: with a gun, he asked me out, he picked the restaurants, 278 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: and he pays, and if I did the same, you know, 279 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: it's less gender specific nowadays, um than I pay. Well. 280 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: I think the communication part of it is huge. I 281 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: have a story actually, when I was reading that part 282 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: of this article, I was thinking, oh my god, because 283 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: this happened to a friend of mine, and I thought 284 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: it was insane, but um, it does happen. So she 285 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: went on a date with a guy I guess they 286 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: had kind of been dating before, maybe sort of fizzled 287 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: for a minute and he but he reached back out 288 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, I have tickets to this concert. 289 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to go? So she was like, all right, 290 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: it sounds kind of fine, like I'll go. So she 291 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: went to the concert, was fine, nothing happened. They you know, 292 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: they sort of just decided they probably didn't have the 293 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: right chemistry. But he sent her a in my request 294 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: for money for the ticket after it, Like what that happened? 295 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, oh you know in that moment, I 296 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: feel like that would just confirm her exactly. She's like, 297 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: definitely made the right choice. Yeah, she just ignored it, 298 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: though she never paid. Do you know I have heard that. 299 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: I literally heard this situation so many times just recently, 300 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: and I've heard probably half the people I just ignored it, 301 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: the other half people paid. I've heard both. Its no, 302 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting it's a very interesting conundrum 303 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: that we're hearing about all the time. Now. Well, it's 304 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: as you said, though, if he had said before, hey 305 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: I have this ticket, do you want to buy it, 306 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: that's one thing. But that wasn't what he said exactly exactly. 307 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: And there was this one another very similar situation the 308 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: other day that someone said that that a guy had 309 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: taken her out and then she knew she didn't want 310 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: to see him again, so she offered to pay and 311 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: he said no, no no, no, I've got it. And then 312 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: afterwards he asked her out again and she said no, 313 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I think there's no chemistry. And I'll say, when you're 314 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: not interested in somebody, be upfront. Um, no passive aggressive behavior. 315 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: I think it's just like, hey, listen, I had a 316 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: really nice time. I just didn't feel more chemistry more 317 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: than friends. I think it's a really fair thing to 318 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: say not just go someone. But and then after she 319 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: said that, then he sent her the request. So even 320 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: though she had initially offered at the restaurant, Um, yeah, 321 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's just it. It's very shocking. So basically 322 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: got her. Yeah, So what are something what are some 323 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: other tips that you can tell us from the Venmo 324 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: article or what are some things that you guys were 325 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: seeing after this survey that people need to change their 326 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: etiquette on so a lot that people were afraid to 327 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: use their mind function. Um, and we're saying that that's 328 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: what it's there for. So it was almost explain that 329 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: because I didn't even know about this function until I've 330 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: read Okay, So essentially, when you say you send me 331 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: money or you send me a request for saying we 332 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: went out to dinner, and then you sent me a 333 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: request for forty, then after that, if I forget to 334 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: pay you, there's a little um, there's a little function 335 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: on the app that you can go and then send 336 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: the person a reminder the very formatted. It's almost as 337 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: if you know, it's it's nothing like you don't write 338 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: out a message to them. It's it's just a reminder um, 339 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: so almost as if the app had done it, you know, 340 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: and because you hadn't paid yet, it's like almost like 341 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: it feels like an automated thing sort of, but you 342 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: really control it. And it's just a nice way people 343 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: get busy. Most people probably just forget and it's a 344 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: nice way where then you say okay and then like 345 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, can pay you. So six people said it's 346 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: it's appropriate to send a reminder notification within four days 347 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: of the original transaction. So if you wait a month 348 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: two months later and then you send that reminder function, 349 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: then it almost comes as a surprise. Again it's like 350 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: what wait for what when? So it's just kind of 351 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: following up as fast as possible. And we also learned, 352 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, say, like you mentioned earlier, is really common 353 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: scenario is that you go out to dinner with somebody 354 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: or a group of people, and some restaurants, you know, 355 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: don't want ten credit cards in the table, so then 356 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: if one person picks up the bill, then it's an 357 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: informal restaurant it's fine to just pick at your phone 358 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: right then and there and then send them the payment 359 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: right right then and there. So people said it's appropriate 360 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: right then and there to pay. So it's kind of 361 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: like the person who takes the front of the bill 362 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: just gets paid back instantly. And it's a formal restaurant 363 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: and would be strange if, you know, everyone kind of 364 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: took out their phones. Then as soon as you leave 365 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: a restaurant or as soon as you get home, or 366 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: at least within the you know, the next day, it 367 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: seems like a fair time. Also that way you don't forget. 368 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: That's my biggest thing is I'll just forget to do 369 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: it if I don't do it right away, you know. Yeah, 370 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: yes exactly. And most people in the service said they weren't. 371 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: It was like it felt stressful to owe people money. 372 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: I agree with that too. I don't ever like owing money. 373 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: I feel that stresses me out too. So that one 374 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: of the things I read that I thought was funny, 375 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: is it mind your emojis because you don't know, you know, 376 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: if your mom is watching, you don't want to maybe 377 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: drop the eggplane emoji on something, which makes sense, fair enough, 378 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: But okay, I have a question. I do all of 379 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: my transactions privately because I don't really want people knowing 380 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: why I'm sending anyone money. I think that's weird. So 381 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: do people do that though they put like random emojis 382 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: out to the public, so believe it or not. So 383 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Venmo is being used as a social app. There's social feed, yes, 384 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: so people tend. Users tend to check two to three 385 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: times um a week and not if just not if 386 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: it's besides just owing or or acting a friend for money. 387 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: People just check it to see what other people are doing. 388 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: So people scroll food through the social feed and just 389 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: see see if people are kind of starting to use 390 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: it in um in that way, and that is you know, 391 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: the thing here is just to be super cautious. I 392 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: am pretty private, I almost, I'm just like you. Most 393 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: all of my transactions are private, UM. I would say 394 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: probably nine of them. UM. But and you can set 395 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: it and if somebody sends your request, you can also 396 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: turn it to private if they didn't do it, so 397 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: it's really which is great. So there's that privacy function. 398 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that you never know whose 399 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: mom is checking then though whose Austin said, most so 400 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: now knowing that people are using it like a in 401 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: a social way. I think you just have to be 402 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: super cautious. And also there was a whole discussion last 403 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: week where I learned about double meanings of different emojis. 404 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: So emojis that you think are super harmless or that 405 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: people you don't think someone would catch onto, there's like 406 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: a whole emoji language that people have caught onto. Yes, 407 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: where this how do we? I'm pretty sure it's there. 408 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: There's there's some articles just recently about this UM and 409 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: there's very I'm going to tell you what. I'm not 410 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: going to tell you what it means, UM, but it 411 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: is there is a pizza emoji, and a pizza emoji 412 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: when you think it's very harmless, UM means something else 413 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: and it's it's really yeah, so I'm gonna have to 414 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: but I just I just learned this like a week ago, 415 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, that would have spend like 416 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: felt so harmless to me. But people have double meetings, 417 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: So just be very cautious. UM. And even a lot 418 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: of people use it for humor and they'll send like 419 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: knowing it would embarrass you or no, right, and it 420 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: could be funny that moment, but not if your boss 421 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: could be very embarrassing. I've definitely done that, or you know, 422 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: like I used to put um in the little the 423 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: line on your checks. Remember we used to write checks 424 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: back in the day, the subject line. I used to 425 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: always put sexual favors to mess with my friends, but 426 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: then they have to go to the bank, you know whatever. 427 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: But so I've done that on Venemo. But I've never thought, 428 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what if my mom is reading this, like, 429 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, what's happened to my daughter? Yeah, it's 430 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of like on Instagram, how 431 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: like people say, you know, I ended up on my 432 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: brother sisters, like friends, bosses, Yeah, how I got there. 433 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: But that's what people are doing on on Benmo as well. 434 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: So it's hysterical. I've heard some hilarious stories. These take 435 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: the stalker vibes of social media up even further. I 436 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: feel like, because you're really figuring out what people are doing, 437 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: how they're spending their money, that's so interesting that it's 438 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: become the social app. Yes, the only good thing I 439 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: would say that you don't have to worry about you 440 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: never can see the amount someone's spent. I think that 441 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: I think that's so you don't ever have to worry 442 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: about that, even if it's not a private transaction. So 443 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: also you're saying that a lot of people are gifting 444 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: money nowadays, like instead of a birthday give they givet 445 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: money and Venmo is a big part of that. Yes, 446 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: and it is very normal. It's very kind of every 447 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: day now So there's um, there's you know, it could 448 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: be a birthday present, could be a graduation present. I 449 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: always kind of say, if you want just and if 450 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: you want something kind of like to feel a little 451 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: bit more tangible or formal in terms of a present, 452 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: you could also just send a card and then you 453 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: know with the Venmo class or though, um melt, but 454 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: I think this is not an invitation and to start 455 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: sending out request for your birthday, I think you know 456 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: there's a they're's a fine line and it actually happens 457 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: to someone this week. I put on my Instagram, um 458 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: ah like a Q and a like send me your 459 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: questions about that note And then a couple of people 460 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: had very similar questions or situations and one person said, 461 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I you know my son has been 462 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: for his birthday send out then a request, what do 463 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: you think and I think that if somebody sends you 464 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: then though you know birthday or gifts to all it, 465 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: then like you. But I don't think it's appropriate to 466 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: send out requests for money on whether it's a wedding 467 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: registry or whatever it might be. The then a community 468 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: said the same thing, which I agree with them. I 469 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: just think it's it can come off in the wrong way. 470 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: If people want money, great, Yes, I would never say 471 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: that would be the best. Let your son, your son 472 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: do for his birthday. It just comes. It just comes acrosses. Um. 473 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: It can come across in many wrong ways. Oh wow. Yeah. 474 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: Are there any other top things you think people really 475 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: need to consider when using vinmo? Um? I think, you know, 476 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, UM, just 477 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, just be respectful. I think that's the biggest thing. 478 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: You know, the nose surprises us. You pay. Um, I 479 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, those are kind 480 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: of the big the big ones takeaways and just not 481 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: to it's if you forget. It's one thing where you 482 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: know it happens the best of us, But just pay 483 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: as soon as you can. Um. It's you know, you 484 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: don't you really don't want somebody that's be chasing you 485 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: for a payment. Um, And yeah, I think that's kind 486 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: of the big the biggest takeaway, I think, Yeah, the 487 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: communication piece of that too. Just talk about it before 488 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: so everyone knows what they're signing up for the dating thing, 489 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: if you ask you pay that I'm sticking to that one. Yes, 490 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: I really think so. I kind of teach. We have 491 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: a whole dating etiquette course, a big group one that 492 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: we did this past year, and we had a panel 493 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: of men, so we did like the top ten Bachelor's 494 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: in New York and then we opened the the plot 495 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: of the ballroom one of the ballrooms to the two 496 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: women and they all came in. They got to ask 497 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: these questions and that was probably the number one question 498 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: that came up was, Um, was you know who should pay? 499 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: How do you feel like if somebody doesn't offer to pay? How? 500 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: And it was kind of just reinforced everything about what 501 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: we've just been speaking about. It's kind of, you know, 502 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: it's considered modern etiquette. Yeah, it's so interesting with all 503 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: the feminist type mentality now, you know. And I really 504 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: pride myself and being able to take care of myself 505 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: and all those things, but when I get asked on 506 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: a date. I still want the guy. I still want 507 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: him to ask. There's like a very old school mentality 508 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: that I still hold to it that like I still 509 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: want to be kind of doated on maybe Yeah, And 510 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely fun. That is still you're just 511 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: you're just asking for a factor really right at the 512 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: end of the day, there's something beautiful about that. Like 513 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: my husband he opens my doors. He's like, I don't 514 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: do but he does it because he wants me to feel, 515 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, taking care of and special. Um. But I 516 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: think you know, so, I do love, love, love that. 517 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: But it could be for two women or two men. 518 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: It could be the same, right, It's just whoever wants 519 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: to show the other person as the person that should 520 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: open the door for the other person, you know. I 521 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: feel like that's the kind of new waves of it. 522 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: But I'm totally into that as well. If you asked 523 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: me on a date and then you better pay, it's 524 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: just how it's just the first I mean, it's not 525 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: like forever, but when you're trying, if you're essentially like 526 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: when you're courting me or whatever, I want you to 527 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, yes, exactly, I'm with you. I'm totally 528 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: with you so interesting. So you guys can find the 529 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: Venmo article on blog dot Venmo dot com. And then Micah, 530 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: where can everyone else find you? Um? I am so 531 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at um it's just at Mike al Meyer. 532 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: So it's at M y K A M E I 533 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: E R. And I'm always putting up like I do 534 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: weekly video of how to videos like holding your cutlery 535 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: or like little things like that. Yeah, but in a 536 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: fun it's fun. It's spos to be fun and kind 537 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: of like usable every day etiquette. Yes, and then your 538 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: website is Beaumont Etiquette dot com if com. Do you 539 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: do any sort of services like if someone's not in 540 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: New York. Yes, we travel, I spend. I was in 541 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: nine cities and six weeks in spring, so we are 542 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: all over America. We come everywhere. Actually interesting the nationals 543 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: on my list, I have so many requests, um for 544 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Nashville and it's I'm literally covering my mouth as I'm 545 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: saying it because it's getting embarrassing. But I haven't been 546 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: down there yet. But the Yeah, so we are everywhere. 547 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: We also, um kind of we work with Downson Abbey, 548 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: so we've been traveling with the exhibition, teaching etiquette at 549 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: the exhibition. So we're always announcing on our newsletter and 550 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: on our website and on my Instagram kind of where 551 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: we're going to be next. But um, yeah, that's we're 552 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: pretty We're out there and and just are making it 553 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: kind of fun and modern. Again. I love it. Well, 554 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for teaching us about some venmo 555 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: and now feel very confident in my app usage. Good god, 556 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: you guys check Mica out and yeah, thanks for coming on. 557 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. Having a wonderful rest of your day. And 558 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: I can't wait to you hopefully need you one day soon. Yes, 559 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: come to Nashville. 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