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Speaker 1: Storyline with Nick Eatman. What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline.

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Speaker 1: I am Nick Eatman. Wednesday, January twenty ninth. It's our

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Speaker 1: first show since our new coaching hire of Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 1: the news head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Who saw

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Speaker 1: that one coming, Maybe Jerry, Jerry and Steven saw that

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Speaker 1: one coming, not really not anyone else. Maybe Schottenheimer had

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Speaker 1: a vision for it as well. But you know, by

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Speaker 1: the time the news broke Friday night, it wasn't that

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Speaker 1: much of a surprise at that point. And then certainly

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Speaker 1: when the announcement came on Monday, everybody knew the deal.

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Speaker 1: But still I think we're all kind of, uh, kind

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Speaker 1: of wrapping our our mind around this one, and and

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Speaker 1: and uh trying to see what's the next move and

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Speaker 1: and and the next coordinators and and the the next

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Speaker 1: coaches and and how this staff gets put together. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it was it's been a it's been a

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Speaker 1: week already and we're just still trying to figure it

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Speaker 1: all out. But it's it's been a fun week. Uh,

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Speaker 1: anytime that there's change, I think that there's some excitement

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Speaker 1: that goes with that. And so I want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you guys, and here here what you have to say.

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh eight eight eight eight five five two

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Speaker 1: two nine seven is the number to call Chris, who

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Speaker 1: we got on the line, and we said, you had

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Speaker 1: some callers who we got for Anthony and Miami. Anthony

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Speaker 1: and Miami. All right, our stuff isn't working today, but

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Speaker 1: that's all right. Anthony Miami, what's up?

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Speaker 5: My god?

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Speaker 6: Nick the Quick? How you doing man? How are you

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Speaker 6: Nick the Quick? Your boy Anthony Miami is doing fine.

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Speaker 6: Because whether they like it or not, it's coach Shoddy time.

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Speaker 6: So I'm all, I'm down for it. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 6: say I saw it that it'll be lying. I didn't

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Speaker 6: see a big name. I didn't see coach Prime. Then

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Speaker 6: me and some people were just saying that we thought

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Speaker 6: coach Prime would do it. If Dak hadn't got signed,

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Speaker 6: then it might have gotten interesting for him to come

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Speaker 6: and probably get a son. But I really thought coach

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Speaker 6: Zimmer would get it, and coach Shottenheim or somebody like

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Speaker 6: that would get the offensive coordinator. So I'm as positive

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Speaker 6: as I am a supportive of course, if you were

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Speaker 6: that star or you're all about that star, I support you.

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Speaker 6: So Coach Shottenheim, I support you. I support your staff,

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Speaker 6: I support our players. That's just what I do.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 6: I hope you do well. Do some of the things

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Speaker 6: you said you're gonna do. That looks like it was

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Speaker 6: gonna do that. I guess that's where that bite and

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Speaker 6: the tongue thing came in at. So it sounds great,

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Speaker 6: and I hope he has a great successful life.

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Speaker 8: It's all I got him.

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Speaker 1: Let some other thanks, Anthony, appreciate the call. You know,

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Speaker 1: the the word deference was used a couple of times

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Speaker 1: and like you like you alluded to and uh, you

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Speaker 1: know that there's time and that's that's a lot of coaches.

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Speaker 1: When you think about it, and not just coaching in

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Speaker 1: the coaching world, think about your own job and you're

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Speaker 1: in meetings and when where there's people that that are

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Speaker 1: above you making decisions. There's a lot of decisions that

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Speaker 1: people don't always make and how do they handle that?

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Speaker 1: What's the best way to to you know, combat that

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Speaker 1: or you say, in this case, you let this one

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Speaker 1: The simple fact that that your that your offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: that wasn't wasn't very consistent, wasn't very prepared, had a

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Speaker 1: had had problems in a lot of areas. The fact

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Speaker 1: that you're offensive coordinator is is now the head coach

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Speaker 1: that right there just goes to show to me just

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Speaker 1: of times when something like that happens, you're like, all right,

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Speaker 9: Minute, man, I hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, how are you good?

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Speaker 9: Talk about the Schottenheimer stuff. Obviously, I'm kind of in

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Speaker 9: a weird spot mentally with this whole thing. And here's

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Speaker 9: why I'm okay with the Shottenheimer higher. I actually think

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Speaker 9: it might secretly kind of be a good higher. On

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Speaker 9: He wants to run the ball more, mirror the ground

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Speaker 9: in the passing game. All that sounds great, so let's

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Speaker 9: go do it. But here's where it's weird for me mentally,

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Speaker 9: Like if I'm okay with the shot in Heimer higher,

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Speaker 9: but I'm mad at the process. I feel like those

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Speaker 9: and that's who we got, And why am I upset

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Speaker 9: about the process in which we got them. I feel

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Speaker 9: like us, as fanned myself included, our thoughts and opinions change,

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Speaker 9: think that we sometimes overvalue maybe our feelings, our thoughts

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Speaker 9: making decisions based on what we want as fans because

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Speaker 9: we don't really know what's going on at the end

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Speaker 9: of the day. We don't know the ins and outs.

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Speaker 9: And I think that everybody that's upset about it, they're

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Speaker 9: kind of coming around to it now as far as

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Speaker 9: Schottenheimer being the coach, whereas just the day ago, it's

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Speaker 9: like everybody was up in arms the day before the

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Speaker 9: I think that sometimes us as fans and myself include,

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Speaker 9: we've got to take a step back right and look

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Speaker 9: at the holistic picture. And it's like, I think this

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Speaker 9: the feeling everybody has on Twitter right now.

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Speaker 7: This Guy's going to be okay.

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Speaker 9: So, like, what are we really upset about as far

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Speaker 1: Are you asking me or I mean I don't know, Like,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you know what, I think we're

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Speaker 1: a smart ass about it, but I look at it like, well,

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Speaker 1: what if you weren't, you know, like like what if?

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Speaker 1: What if? And there are some fans that aren't excited

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Speaker 1: on this. What what does that mean? I mean like, like,

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Speaker 1: we've been through worse than this. I say it all

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Speaker 1: the time. If you're a Cowboy fan, and you're one

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Speaker 1: of those to say, I've been a fan forever and

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Speaker 1: all this, You've seen worse than this. You've seen worse teams,

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Speaker 1: worse situations, and even though you think that you haven't,

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Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say like, oh yeah, guys,

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Speaker 1: wasn't my pick. I didn't even think he was going

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Speaker 1: now and tell you this is why he's going to

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Speaker 1: is that if we have to give him a chance

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Speaker 1: because he's the coach and he if he didn't impress

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Speaker 1: you with what you saw, then you're probably just not

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Speaker 1: going to be impressed. He was impressed.

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Speaker 9: Well, he's a big risk, according to Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that, and I don't and I

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Speaker 9: That was the most awkward part of the whole interview.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 9: That made me feel so uncomfortable, he said, like twenty

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Speaker 9: just making an observation based on people that were pissed

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Speaker 9: people have started accepting him as the head coach. And

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Speaker 9: I think it's a cyclical, man. We see it's a

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Speaker 9: roller course. You talk about it's like, okay, come April,

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Speaker 9: but we're gonna be ready to go. Man, this is

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Speaker 9: So it just kind of is what it is at

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Speaker 1: Yep. Always Yeah, and Dylan, I appreciate it. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: And the thing about it is too is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: The press conferences should be should be fine. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna. He's he's he's a genuine person.

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Speaker 1: I think all that's nice and good until you know,

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Speaker 1: that then all bets are off at that point, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's the nature of the business. We we get that.

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Speaker 1: But but I think that he gained some some some fans.

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he was impressive. I said

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Speaker 1: if it's if you can win a press conference. He

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Speaker 1: and and the fact the players were there, Dac and

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Speaker 1: He shows you know that that he he should have

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Speaker 1: we're support you, We're so glad you're the coach. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, can he get on their ass

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Speaker 1: when it's time to do that? And that's that's the

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Speaker 1: That's one of the toughest things that a coach can do,

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Speaker 1: is say, hey, yeah, I got you, you're my guy,

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Speaker 1: but but you're not doing this right and you need

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Speaker 1: to you need to, you know, you need to be

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, a little less comfortable than you

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Speaker 1: What's up.

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Speaker 8: There?

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Speaker 1: You go?

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Speaker 11: What's going? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 12: Man?

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Speaker 11: I'm living, man, I'm happy I finally got in.

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Speaker 11: I don't know, man, it's been obvious little but see,

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Speaker 1: Well it's been ringing a lot, you know, when we

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Speaker 1: I don't think they even answer it. So, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: So what do you got?

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Speaker 11: I got a couple of things. Man. I'm kind of

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Speaker 11: like Dylan. I support it. You know, once again, it's

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Speaker 11: Jerry said the pressor we're all in on them, We're

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Speaker 11: And my other question is, you know, and the pressure

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Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with what you're saying.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry when they asked a question about free agency

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Speaker 11: Here we go, okay, and he said, okay, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: does that mean that they're going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: I think I think, I think that could happen this year,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, because I just like, you know, like I said,

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Speaker 11: There needs to be a collective amount of moves that,

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Speaker 11: We need to go ahead and sew up most of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's a very very good point, Carolina,

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Speaker 1: a very good point, and what thanks for you? Anything else?

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Speaker 7: Is that it.

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Speaker 11: No man, nothing, So I'll be calling in and I

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Speaker 11: appreciate your answering for me.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 11: I hope you have a wonderful day and love to

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Speaker 1: Man, appreciate it. Be safe on the roads out there

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Speaker 1: driving in Texas. Here, Longview, Texas are going on the

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Speaker 1: They're probably more just big wide receivers, and they know

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Speaker 10: Good morning, Nick, How are you doing today?

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Speaker 11: Good?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Bud?

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Speaker 10: Pretty good? Sarah? Pretty good? Hey, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt Iberflus is the defensive coordinator. He oh, he

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Speaker 1: But no, I don't think Wade don't. I don't see

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Speaker 1: I think I think that that's a good, solid move.

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Speaker 1: I really do.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I didn't know that. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's all right. Hey, it's hard to keep

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Speaker 6: What do you think?

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Speaker 10: It wasn't my first choice. But since we got him,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 10: I would have went after John Gruden myself, but that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, there they're really there, really isn't you know?

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Speaker 10: I was a little worried because he was the offensive

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going.

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Speaker 1: To have people in the building here and it's start.

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Speaker 1: It's going to surface out if it hasn't already. How

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's it was his idea from what this

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Speaker 1: what we're all waiting to see.

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Speaker 12: Ah.

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Speaker 13: Here, you have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Yeah, Matt Eberflu's defensive coordinator, Nick Sorenson,

437
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Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator. And let me throw this out

438
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Speaker 1: there about Nick Sorenson real quick. He was with the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers the last three years and he was

440
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Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. Last year he was fired as the

441
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. That's probably that's not his role. That's that's

442
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Speaker 1: probably not his best role. He played in the league

443
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Speaker 1: ten years. He played a lot of special teams. He's

444
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Speaker 1: been a special team's assistant with the Seahawks and he

445
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Speaker 1: was the coordinator with the Jaguars. So special teams is

446
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Speaker 1: a little bit more his forte. Let's judge him on that. Necessarily,

447
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Speaker 1: not necessarily as a defensive coach. Same with Iberflus. Really

448
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Speaker 1: Eberflus as a head coach. Chicago fans will tell you, oh,

449
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Speaker 1: my god, get rid of this guy. Hail Mary, are

450
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Speaker 1: you kidding me? Well, okay, But as a defensive coordinator

451
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Speaker 1: when he was with Indianapolis, those defenses were really really

452
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Speaker 1: good and good with players that will fit his scheme.

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Speaker 1: I think he will be one that you'll see a

454
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Speaker 1: draft pick in the fifth round or a I would

455
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Speaker 1: say fourth round, but they don't have that pick, but

456
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Speaker 1: but they might, you know, but you'll see a middle

457
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Speaker 1: round pick of a guy that you're like, oh, didn't

458
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Speaker 1: didn't see that one coming, or the draft show guys

459
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Speaker 1: will be looking through their stuff like I don't know

460
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Speaker 1: about that about that guy. But you know, it'll be

461
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Speaker 1: a vision that that you know, like ibra Flus will

462
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Speaker 1: have for a for a player to say, hey, I

463
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Speaker 1: like him in this scheme because that's what he did

464
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Speaker 1: a lot of with the Colts. Those were a lot

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Speaker 1: of no name players. They had some good players, but

466
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Speaker 1: he had a lot of no name players that they

467
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Speaker 1: made uh into a really good defense. I believe MALIEK.

468
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Speaker 1: Cooker was there and he was the first round pick,

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Speaker 1: but I believe I believe MALIEK. Cooker was there with

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Speaker 1: him for at least one or two seasons when he

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Speaker 1: was the d C. All right, let's go to Terry's

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Speaker 1: in Mexico our time.

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Speaker 8: Terry well Good sitting out there looking at specific just

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Speaker 8: recently retired down here, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, you know there was a special teams coach. We

476
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Speaker 1: had one of my favorite coaches of all time, Joe D. Kamelis.

477
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Speaker 1: You know what he calls that beach TV. He said,

478
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Speaker 1: we sit out there, it's called beach TV. I don't

479
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Speaker 1: have a TV. I just sit there and it's called

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Speaker 1: beach TV. So I love it. We're all jealous.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 8: It took a while to get here, but I'm finally

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Speaker 8: here and then join life.

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Speaker 1: Good for you.

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Speaker 8: One concern I'm hearing a lot is our veterans. I

486
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Speaker 8: watched Mike's YouTube show last night, and I'm not you know,

487
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Speaker 8: he's he's all hard about the cowboys. And one of

488
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Speaker 8: the concerns is, you know, some of our veterans hoping

489
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Speaker 8: they don't get discouraged and.

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Speaker 14: Decide to leave.

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Speaker 8: I've been hearing chatter about Parsons wanting to trade, and

492
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Speaker 8: I know change is hard to take with some of

493
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Speaker 8: our veterans, but I'm willing to, you know, give the

494
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Speaker 8: guy a chance. I liked eber plus pick up as

495
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Speaker 8: a defensive coordinator coming from Chicago. That's all I heard.

496
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Speaker 8: Is bad of a coach against But I think he's

497
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Speaker 8: a better coordinator than he has a head coach. So

498
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Speaker 8: just my opinion. And I love the show. It's getting

499
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Speaker 8: harder and harder to get on now. Yeah, that's doing well.

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Speaker 1: For you, Terry, Terry, Who's whose show? Did you watch again?

501
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Speaker 1: I did not hear that part.

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Speaker 8: Mike Werbin, Michael er I was, yeah, I was watching

503
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Speaker 8: the YouTube so last night and I ran across his rant.

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Speaker 1: Got it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know my key. Oh yeah, he's all hard

506
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Speaker 8: when it comes to the Cowboys.

507
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Speaker 1: All fan, all the time. Uh and I and I

508
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Speaker 1: say this respectfully towards towards one of the top ten

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Speaker 1: players to ever play for the Dallas Cowboys and a

510
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and former players. They know football, they

511
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Speaker 1: know players, they know locker rooms they do not know.

512
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Speaker 1: And I'm pointing towards the Cowboys locker room. They do

513
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Speaker 1: not know that locker room. They don't. I'm sorry. Raikman

514
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Speaker 1: does not know that locker room. Emmitt Smith does it,

515
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin doesn't, Nate Newton doesn't. Nate's on these shows.

516
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Speaker 1: These former players, they know football x's and o's, and

517
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Speaker 1: they know what what it takes to get to that point.

518
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Speaker 1: And I respect that more than anything. But when they

519
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: come in and they talk about culture that they don't

520
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: know about, and those players really don't know them, then

521
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Speaker 1: I take it with a grain of salt. I'm sorry,

522
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Speaker 1: unless unless you know, now Jesse Holly sits up here,

523
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Speaker 1: Jesse has some connections to certain players. If those guys

524
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Speaker 1: are telling him stuff, that's a different story. But when

525
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Speaker 1: you in general, former players, when they get asked about

526
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Speaker 1: culture in the locker room, they don't know what more

527
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Speaker 1: than you do, Terry. I mean that, that's that's just

528
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Speaker 1: simple fact. So I don't I don't get all worked

529
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Speaker 1: up about what a former player says. A former player

530
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Speaker 1: a lot of times is talking, so you don't forget

531
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Speaker 1: who they are, Like, oh, okay, you know, I'll never

532
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Speaker 1: forget Amani Tumor from the Giant so Money Tumor remember him,

533
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: he made it. No one had heard from him three

534
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: or four years. So he just comes out and makes

535
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: a statement says, I think Romo is better than Eli Manning,

536
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: a quarterback that he played with. Oh my god, everyone

537
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: went up at arms, and I looked at it like, well,

538
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Speaker 1: a money tumor is looking for a job, looking for

539
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, or looking looking the kind of show. You know. Now,

540
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Speaker 1: Michael's not doing that. Michael's being Michael, and I love

541
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Speaker 1: Michael Levan, there's no doubt about I'm just saying I

542
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Speaker 1: don't get worked up about what former players say because

543
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Speaker 1: I don't think that they know the pulse of a team,

544
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Speaker 1: especially if they're not in that locker room.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been a fan to seventy two and I'm

546
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Speaker 8: going to jump ship from my boys.

547
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Speaker 1: So just who's who's jumping ship?

548
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Speaker 8: I said, I'm not going to jump Oh okay, my boy. Yeah,

549
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 8: I've been in there here too long, been a fan.

550
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Speaker 8: So now I'm always going to be there for him.

551
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Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. And uh, you know, as I said,

552
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Speaker 1: it's been worse situations than this, you'd have other reasons,

553
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: you'd have you'd have better reasons to jump ship if

554
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to do that before. Now, Uh, you know,

555
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's your life, and it's

556
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: it's your you know, it's it's just who we are.

557
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: We're Cowboy fans, and it's you know, it's what it is. Well,

558
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Have fun.

559
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 8: I appreciate your time.

560
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: Have fun down there in Mexico.

561
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Speaker 8: All right, Oh, definitely out All right.

562
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Speaker 1: Chris pointed out about Michael Ivan christ You're right, Dion

563
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Sanders was his choice and his boy. And from what

564
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Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard mixed things about Dion's this situation

565
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: that what maybe that they were just two marketing guys

566
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of talking, getting together, throwing that out there in

567
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Speaker 1: the media, maybe helping Dion get a little bit more

568
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: in IL money at Colorado, and maybe helping Jerry kind

569
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Speaker 1: of show that this is a big job. I had

570
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Speaker 1: someone that that that said he talked to to Dion,

571
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Speaker 1: and Dean really wanted it, you know, I really wanted

572
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Speaker 1: this job. So I don't know, I don't know how

573
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Speaker 1: serious that it ever was. But that's not the case now. Anyways,

574
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Speaker 1: Davion and Illinois, Davion, what's up?

575
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Speaker 3: What it do?

576
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Speaker 8: Nick?

577
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Speaker 12: What it do?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

579
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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. The news Friday night had me because

580
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: it took me for a loop. But yeah, I mean

581
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: a couple of days from it now, so I'm rousing

582
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Speaker 3: into shape, you know, back into let's get it at

583
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Speaker 3: this point.

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Speaker 1: Davion, give me something you like, something you do not

585
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: like about this? Move?

586
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Speaker 3: Uh? Something I like? I like what he was talking.

587
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: I do like this like, I do like cut split motion,

588
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: I like, I like, I like, I like what over here?

589
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: You like Patrick Patrick's question? Yeah?

590
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Patrick was on pint with that.

591
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

592
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: I was so I was so happy, we said. I

593
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: was like, oh, man, thank somebody asked this question. Thank god. Yeah,

594
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: watching the press conference and I was like, man, somebody

595
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: please ask me a question about it if he's gonna

596
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: do something different in office, because that's been my biggest thing,

597
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: as you know, getting his office cranking. So I'm like,

598
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: we gotta get this offense cranking if we're gonna do anything. Yeah,

599
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: in in this league.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you know. And then what what do you what

601
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: do you dislike? What's something? I asked you both?

602
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: So let me see what I just like about it.

603
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: I just hate I hate the process, like pretty much

604
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Speaker 3: all of us probably, I mean prec combination. I just

605
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: hate the way it got to it. I mean, sitting

606
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: back thinking about over the weekend, it seemed like Seaan

607
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: Hyman was the from runner from the whole get go.

608
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Speaker 3: It just they just took that they just took their

609
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: time getting to him, but he was kind of the

610
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: front runner the whole time, so it was like, Okay, well,

611
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: if that was the case, then I'd rather you kind

612
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: of talk to a couple more people. I would like

613
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Speaker 3: y'all talk at least a couple more people just for

614
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Speaker 3: the simple fact of just talking to a couple of

615
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: people to get more ideas of you know, more people

616
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Speaker 3: outside people thinking about what your team yvie.

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Speaker 1: What if I told you they talked to sixteen people,

618
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Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen coaches, legitimate coaching candidate, sixteen of them. Like, like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that many, and a lot

620
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: of fans don't think it's that many. Jerry kind of

621
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: alluded to it, you know, in the press conference that

622
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: it was a lot more than people think. But but

623
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Speaker 1: so the taking their time process, I mean, they talked

624
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Speaker 1: to more guys than than than it was reported, shockingly

625
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: because this thing's been covered. So yeah, so sixteen was

626
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Speaker 1: the number that I've heard. Now, does Dion count in that? Probably?

627
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Speaker 1: So I don't think we're talking about sixteen official sit

628
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Speaker 1: down interviews or or zoom interviews, but sixteen people that

629
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Speaker 1: you're calling and talking to I mean, that's that's a

630
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Speaker 1: pretty that's a pretty decent amount of guys.

631
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Speaker 3: Investigation. Like least, I haven't sit down. But you know,

632
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: people talk ain't bad.

633
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: Right, So the reported process it may not be what

634
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Speaker 1: you like. And I'm not saying you should be excited

635
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: about all that. And I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion.

636
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I hope everyone knows that I said this the other day.

637
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a DJ, not spending anything, Okay, I'm just

638
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: saying that I think it was he. They talked to

639
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: more people than you think, but maybe all along it

640
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: was Schottenheimer. Maybe he was like, this is the guy.

641
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: Let's see if somebody can prove me, you know it

642
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: proved me wrong or be better than this.

643
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: So hey, well one question before I get off. I

644
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: would love to get your book. I don't know how

645
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: i'll get that because you know I'm may work at night,

646
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: so I love I'd love to start read that book.

647
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: So it's the way I can do it. It'll be great.

648
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Ill h I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out

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Speaker 1: get it for you. I will, We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Daveyon. I appreciate appreciate the call. Guys. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys to Cowboys storyline. All right, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Cowboys storyline. I'm Nick Gatman here. Wednesday, January twenty ninth,

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00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: got about another forty five minutes or so, so have

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Speaker 1: an extended show getting talking a lot about the Brian schottenheimermove.

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Speaker 1: Really then, really that's about the only thing talking some coordinators,

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Speaker 1: some other good stuff. But let's get to Rob in Vegas. Rob,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Nick?

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Speaker 11: How you doing good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 17: I'm good good? All right, So it was it was

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Speaker 17: a predictable hire. I think it's a terrible hire because

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00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 17: it's another happy to be here guy. You know, Jerry.

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00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 17: Jerry has a type, you know, Campo, Wade, Phillips, Mike

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Speaker 17: McCarty and now shout out, these are happy to be

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Speaker 17: here guys. And what I mean by that is they

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Speaker 17: were never getting head coaching jobs from anybody else, right,

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Speaker 17: So so now they're hired, and now they owe Jerry.

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Speaker 17: So now it's you know, I'm not I'm not going

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Speaker 17: to push back. This is you know, this guy gave

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Speaker 17: me my chance. And you can't change the culture from within,

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Speaker 17: not with a guy who, let's be honest, has been invisible.

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Speaker 17: I mean, nobody knew what he did. Jerry even knew

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00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 17: his first name. So to bring this guy in to

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Speaker 17: change the culture is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you he knew his middle name. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's let's don't get into all that he didn't

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Speaker 1: know his name. He knew his family. Itrew his mom's name,

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00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: he knew it. He Okay, So you and hide that,

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00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: you and hold hold that against him, hold that against him,

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Speaker 1: but don't say that Jerry didn't know his name. Jerry, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: Jerry knew him. Okay, go ahead, they'll keep going.

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Speaker 17: But but the deal is is you have to change

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Speaker 17: the culture. They should have went outside the organization. And

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Speaker 17: the sad part is as a fan is you had

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Speaker 17: some really good head coaches available, You had maybe the greatest,

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Speaker 17: and Bill Belichick who was interested, You had Rabel interested.

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00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 17: How the last minute you called Pete Carroll to ask

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Speaker 17: him about this guy, and Pete Carroll is like, what

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Speaker 17: about me? But there's no way they could bring these

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Speaker 17: guys in because a they won't pay them.

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Speaker 1: Pete don't know what, Pete Carroll, you didn't want him.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want him, You did not want him. Nobody nobody, Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: I did him.

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Speaker 18: I did.

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Speaker 17: He wasn't my first choice. It has a way better choice, let.

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Speaker 1: Me tell you, And I'm not going to go any

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00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: further than this, but I'm just going to tell you,

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Speaker 1: especially with based off the news that's that's gonna come

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Speaker 1: out today in the next couple of days, you didn't

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Speaker 1: want Pete Carroll on it as the head coach because

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Speaker 1: his demands were things that you, the Cowboy fans, would

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Speaker 1: have hated. So Pete Carroll took myself out say maybe so,

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00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: maybe so.

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Speaker 17: But what I'm saying is Jerry A doesn't pay, he

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Speaker 17: refuses to pay for a top head coach.

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Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't explain that. I can't.

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Speaker 14: I just well you can.

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Speaker 17: You you know the reason. The reason is very simple. No,

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Speaker 17: if I pay you that, then I'm giving you more

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Speaker 17: power Jerry. You know, Jerry lost his fastball, but he

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Speaker 17: ain't totally out of it. He there's a big difference

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Speaker 17: paying a guy five million or six million to ten

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00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 17: to twelve. Jerry would have to concede some change. And

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00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 17: as a fan, that's what we were looking for. And

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00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 17: you just show us year after year with these coaching

755
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 17: hires that you just don't want to give it up.

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 17: You go, this is your fantasy football team. And all

757
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 17: you had to watch was that press conference to see

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00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 17: how disfunctional this team is. You had Jerry up there rambling,

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 17: and I get it, he's an old man. And then

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00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 17: you got Steven, who came off as such a spoiled

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 17: jerk to turn around and basically look at the fans

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00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 17: with that stupid finger thing. The twenty nine years that

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 17: you've lived through didn't really exist. And you know what,

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 17: He's right, it didn't exist in his life because when

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 17: he went to bed twenty nine years ago, he was

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Speaker 17: a millionaire, and when he woke up twenty nine years later,

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00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 17: he's a multi billionaire. So that it's it's just as

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Speaker 17: I don't see this team as big as a fan,

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Speaker 17: I am winning a super Bowl until Jerry's no longer

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Speaker 17: with us and Steven sells the team.

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Speaker 4: That is the only way I see this succeeding.

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Speaker 17: Because he doesn't even recognize that the business model is broken.

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00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 17: They either one of them. We would hope that, okay,

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00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 17: maybe one day, no neither one recognizes that this business

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Speaker 17: model is broken.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I I don't know if I can.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to agree with all that.

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00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think the model is broken. But but

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: the drought of the super Bowl. The super Bowl drought

780
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: is real. I mean everyone knows that that's a super

781
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: Bowl drought. Uh does that mean? I think a lot

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00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: of times people confuse that with being a bad franchise,

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00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: a bad football team. I don't think this is a

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00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: bad football team. I do think that they they've got

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Speaker 1: some pieces in place though, that they can get this

786
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Speaker 1: thing kind of turned around. I think it's a good

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00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: combination of change of culture and and continuity at the

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00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: same time. So I think that's that's kind of why

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00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: they wanted to keep the guy in house and the

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00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: money issues.

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Speaker 7: Continuity of what of a of a good football.

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00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: Team that they've had? Continuity of success?

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Speaker 6: What do you mean?

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00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 17: Good doesn't good? Good doesn't get you to the super Bowl?

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00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 17: They you're hind right, Good doesn't get So what are

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00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 17: we keeping continuity of good? Exactly? Jerry wants to be good.

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00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 17: It does great, all right. He doesn't want to go

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Speaker 17: to the next level. He's proven it with this higher

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Speaker 17: he doesn't. He wants to be good as long as

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Speaker 17: I'm in the middle seven and ten, nine and eight, whatever.

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00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 17: And if I somehow luck into a twelve and five season,

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00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 17: and because you notice, you notice not one time did

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00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 17: Jerry mention super Bowl? He said playoffs. He kept saying,

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Speaker 17: get to the playoffs. It used to be get to

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Speaker 17: the super Bowl. And that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: I I think we're all glad other than you, that

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00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that. Nobody wants that. That's it.

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00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 7: Why you have to that.

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Speaker 17: Well, if you're not building towards that, you're wasting everybody's time.

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Speaker 1: You just quoted your new head coach, Rob Thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call, appreciated. That's exactly what the head coach said exactly.

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00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: So you guys are more aligned than you think you are,

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00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: because that's exactly what he just said was if you're

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Speaker 1: not building for a championship, then what are you doing? So,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Jerry didn't have to say it. Your

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00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: head coach, Brian Schottenheimer said it. Let's also let's also

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00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: get to another matter as well. Will McLay has signed

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Speaker 1: a four year extension with the Cowboys. He will remain

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Speaker 1: in the vice president of player Personnel. And you know

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Speaker 1: he does a lot of the duties that that that

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Speaker 1: you know, the director of scouting, even some that GM

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Speaker 1: would do. He's got Jerry's ear, Jerry's you know, trust

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Speaker 1: and I think that that's a great, great move. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, you know, Will McClay, this is not

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00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: an accident that Will McClay signed this deal two days

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Speaker 1: after the head coach was signed. Okay, I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Will McClay is here with a different

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Speaker 1: coach with Mike McCarthy. I don't know. There were other

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Speaker 1: coaches that wanted to come in, maybe make some changes.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys wanted Will McClay here. He obviously wants to be here,

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Speaker 1: and he's going to be here for the next four years.

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal because I talked to him last

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Speaker 1: year and he said that I got one year left

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Speaker 1: on my deal. I've made a commitment to my son

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Speaker 1: when he turns eighteen and finishes high school. After that,

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Speaker 1: I'll be here until after that. Who knows. So I

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Speaker 1: think more jobs were attracted for him this year. He

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00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: was probably open to leaving more than he's ever been

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Speaker 1: and it didn't That didn't happen. The Cowboys made it

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00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: happen for him to stay. And I think they're giving

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Speaker 1: him a little bit more say in some of the

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00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: big decisions that were making, including this head coach, So

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00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: that that's a big move right there, Will McClay is staying.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more on that here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. Ronnie in New Jersey's next, Ronnie, what's.

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Speaker 7: Up, hey, Mick? You know what I was gonna. I

847
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 7: was actually going to ask you about Will McLay. So

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00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: that's that's actually really rude. I should you have given us.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie, I should have I should have let you ask me.

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00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: You could have just broken the news for us.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, that was actually the best hues that you have

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00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 7: given us as fans, you know, because we know that

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00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 7: Will McClay has a lot to do with with with

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00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 7: the roster, a lot to do with being in Jerry's ear.

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00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 7: Whether he listens to him or not is one thing,

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00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 7: but at least we know he has a good eye

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00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 7: for for for talent. You know. Yeah, maybe maybe we

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Speaker 7: The one thing I think fans, the one thing that

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00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 7: we would love for Will McClay to have more if

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Speaker 7: we don't know if he does more advice or more

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00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 7: of power, is into the free agency, Like if we

862
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 7: could actually pick up a few free agents, at least

863
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 7: one or two, bring good players from other teams, uh uh,

864
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 7: and have them Yeah, you can build through the through

865
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 7: the draft, but build through the draft and also add

866
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 7: a few key pieces here and there. You're not gonna

867
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 7: get every single player. You're not gonna hit on on

868
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 7: on the draft. Look, we haven't hit on the first

869
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 7: rounders the past two three years, so we we've hit

870
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: on some late round uh late round players draft picks.

871
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 7: But but you're not gonna hit even on first round.

872
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 7: You're not gonna hit every first round. So that's a

873
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 7: lot to put on Will McClay also, you know, so

874
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 7: on that with the Saudi Saddenheimer, I'll be honest with you, Nick,

875
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 7: As long as it's not Kellen Moore, I'm good. I'm

876
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 7: not not not you know this is back from Kellen Moore.

877
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 7: You know whatever this and that here he might be

878
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: going to the Thames. That's respectful, but you I'm sorry.

879
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 7: I did not see kelln more.

880
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: Than walking out.

881
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 7: Uh you know what one thing that I saw in

882
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 7: that press conference, and you mentioned this, I enjoy seeing

883
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 7: what I saw from him in the press conference. I

884
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 7: don't think Kelen Moore they would have had that same

885
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

886
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about. Can you stand

887
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: up in front of seventy grown men and lead them

888
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: to a game. And that's Kenny.

889
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 7: He did that. He not in front of the whole team,

890
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 7: but he did that in front of players, in front

891
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 7: of the media, and not for nothing. It takes a

892
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 7: lot of of something for you to be that for

893
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 7: your boss, and your boss keeps on saying that this

894
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 7: is the What was it that he kept on saying,

895
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 7: Garry Jones, Jerry Jones kept on calling it the biggest

896
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 7: risk even take it. I'm like, come on, man, I

897
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 7: felt bad for Sharon Himer during that, but at the

898
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 7: same time, you're taking the risk no matter who you

899
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 7: that's a head coach, any coach that comes there is

900
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 7: taking a risk. Everybody's taking a risk at work every

901
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 7: single day. So, for instance, it just didn't just didn't

902
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 7: like when when Jerry kept on pointing that out.

903
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, like, yeah, that was weird,

904
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: and I don't Yeah, I just don't think anyone really

905
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: views it that way, that that it is a risk,

906
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't.

907
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 7: I don't see that whatever coach it was a risk

908
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 7: with with I forgot He's not there no more. Uh.

909
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: McCarthy McCarthy.

910
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 7: McCarthy, I'm sorry, he's already gone, so that's it.

911
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 18: He rased out of my.

912
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 7: Party's gone. I'm sorry, but I didn't like McCarthy too much.

913
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: I think the more were you know, I think if

914
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: you have a first year head coach, it's somewhat of

915
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: a risk. But you know, I'm it's Chicago taking a

916
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: risk with.

917
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 7: Nick. Wasn't it a risk when when when taking mccar Yeah,

918
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 7: he won a super Bowl? Well, other head coach has

919
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 7: gone to onenother team and won a Super Bowl. I mean,

920
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 7: namely five head coaches. He's acting like, oh, experience, experience, Yeah,

921
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 7: but some of these head coaches, I'm sorry Rob was saying,

922
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 7: but some of these head coaches that won Super Bowls

923
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 7: that are as talented as they've enmed. Some coaches have

924
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 7: never even gone back to the Super Bowl and they

925
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 7: won a super Bowl. So that's the risk in himself too.

926
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 7: So I'm sorry, I don't I didn't like that risk.

927
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 7: Then I felt bad for the guy. He just kept

928
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 7: kept on pointing that out, you know what I'm saying.

929
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 7: But aside from that, I think I think this is

930
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 7: actually a good pick. I think he's actually he convinced

931
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 7: me during that press conference. So thanks Nick, thanks for

932
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 7: taking my call. I appreciate you guys, and please we

933
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 7: need at least two more two shows a week. I

934
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 7: want to keep on saying, and I still it happens.

935
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. We talked to Derek about it.

936
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: I told him about the petition. He was like, that

937
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: doesn't move me at all. I have reasons for what it,

938
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Derek likes to be fair and equal

939
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: to everybody.

940
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 7: So yeah, defense.

941
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: Call in the draft show. They they I don't know

942
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: they they actually get to two shows a week. Maybe

943
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: you should call in there and and let the phones

944
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: ring off the hook.

945
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 7: Appreciate it.

946
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think any first year coach would

947
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: be considered a risk in some way. The simple fact

948
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: of this, and I said it to when Rob called I,

949
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: they they don't. They don't pay top dollar for coaches.

950
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: There's no salary cap. There's no reason why. So it's

951
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: it's it's contradicting sometimes of the things. We've also heard

952
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: Jerry say about how much money I would write a

953
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: check that you don't know the amount of check I

954
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: would write to guarantee if super Bowl and all that. Now,

955
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: hiring a high profile coach doesn't guarantee a super Bowl.

956
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: He hired the highest of profiles in a coach and

957
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: he didn't even get him a playoff win in Bill Parcells,

958
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: did he change the culture? Did he change the team?

959
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, he did. He got him to a

960
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: point where they were they were a better football team,

961
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: but they didn't. It didn't lead to postseason success. But

962
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: so nothing to guarantee. But you know, I just I

963
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: the coaching part is always going to be there as

964
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: kind of a head scratcher. But you know, I think

965
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't worry about Schottenheimer's feelings about a

966
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: risk and all that. I don't think Jerry was trying

967
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: to be disrespectful to Schottenheimer. I think what he was

968
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: trying to say he was he was there was a

969
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: lot of things. He was trying to respond to media

970
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: criticism and and people that think, oh, he likes to

971
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: do things and that's really easy and comfortable, and he

972
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: was trying to point out that there's risk involved when

973
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: you're hiring a first year coach. All right, Ali in

974
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: Florida's next, Good.

975
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 12: Morning there, How are you pretty good buddy.

976
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: If we miss you all right, well I appreciate it,

977
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: but I'm here. Let's go.

978
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 12: Okay, So a couple of questions. I want to shout

979
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 12: out to Patrick Nick Harrison you for having an awesome

980
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 12: question in press conference, and you did the interview. You

981
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 12: look great, and you asked a lot of good questions

982
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 12: as well. I think message Joes allow the podcast to

983
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 12: come and ask the questions versus all these journalists that

984
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 12: do softball questions. So, having said that, I want to

985
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 12: ask you a question. Do you remember I called? I said,

986
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 12: maybe you should put the little switch there for every

987
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 12: new collar that called, and you push the sound like

988
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 12: here we go, versus waiting on Chris because Chris has

989
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 12: his handful back there. So next thing, I know, a

990
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 12: couple of weeks later, everything was solved. You solved the

991
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 12: problem because you care Chris, cared for your own storyliners. Right.

992
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 12: But having said that, I'm gonna go take the balls

993
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 12: with the horn. We got twelve and five season, three

994
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 12: years in a row that everybody want to give a

995
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 12: credit to. Okay, no problem, it's hard to get the job.

996
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 12: But Jerry Jones played football, He won the championship, he

997
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 12: bought the Cowboys for so long Stephen Jones been involved.

998
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 12: So Dak Prescott and Mike McCarthy, you lose the twelve

999
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 12: and five seasons, what do you do? You go there says, look,

1000
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 12: let's improve them for next year. The second twelve and

1001
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 12: five season comes in.

1002
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 4: What they do They don't have no problem.

1003
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 12: And the third one, I mean, any of these guys

1004
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 12: could have go. Dak Prescott go to Jerry's office said, look,

1005
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 12: let me take let me take a two million dollars less,

1006
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 12: give me some offensive line free agent. Or Martin McCarthy

1007
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 12: like you you care about your program. He could easily

1008
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 12: go to Jerry john because look, Jerry, twelve and five,

1009
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 12: I know what we need. You play championship.

1010
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 19: You know what we need.

1011
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 12: Nobody ever went there to shout and do something to

1012
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 12: maybe put the best team when you show up twelve

1013
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 12: and five three years in a row. That's what Rob

1014
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 12: is talking about. If you've ever seen the Iceberg, iceberg

1015
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 12: is ten percent, you see visually ninety percent is on

1016
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 12: the water. Rob talking about all the anger that he

1017
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 12: has is about the current. But he's been watching the

1018
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 12: football since seventy seven. For example, all these years we

1019
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 12: go through these we set the trend. As a Dallas Cowboys,

1020
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 12: you have a pride as a Cowboys, a staff writer

1021
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 12: and a good one at the least, you have a

1022
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 12: little perk in your step when you walk into the stadium.

1023
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 12: You work for the Cowboys. Who is the Howie Rosen?

1024
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 12: You take these guys lunch. So for me, this is

1025
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 12: what upset me. We set the trend, and everybody beat

1026
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 12: us with everything that beset the standard. Love your brother

1027
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 12: saying look to Jacob and Chris's kid, my pizza club,

1028
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 12: Love you buddy.

1029
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate that Ali a lot of good stuff.

1030
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I can't say I know everything that you're referring to there,

1031
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: but I appreciate the call and the support for sure.

1032
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: And you know again, I'm a little again. I was

1033
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: a little confused with some of the stuff that you

1034
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: were saying. So appreciate the call. Let's move on to

1035
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: Zach in Atlanta.

1036
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 20: Hey, what's up?

1037
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 5: Nick?

1038
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 11: How are you?

1039
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: How are you?

1040
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 20: I'm good man, you know, Friday night the news breaks

1041
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 20: of Brian Schottenheimer Monday press conference. You got your show today.

1042
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 20: I was hoping you'd get your Cabo trip, you know,

1043
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 20: in the off season, but I don't know if it's

1044
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 20: going to happen, man, at least not yet.

1045
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I like to go like right in the

1046
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: middle of the week when big things are happening, you.

1047
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1048
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: You know that's what I hear. You're supposed to go

1049
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: to Cabo, like right before like a big game or

1050
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: big news announcement.

1051
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, now Cabo.

1052
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know anything about that. I can get

1053
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: in a cab. I can't afford the the other O. Yeah, Cabo.

1054
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 20: Well, hey man, obviously coaching news, that's great. Will McClay news,

1055
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 20: that's great. I'm curious about, you know, Matty Refluse coming

1056
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 20: back in the fold. He's gonna be our DC. There's

1057
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 20: a lot of talk of the continuity for Dak's sake

1058
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 20: in the offense and all that. I have my thoughts there,

1059
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 20: but I'm thinking about Micah. This is his third defensive

1060
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 20: coordinator in three years. I don't really know what I

1061
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 20: Refluse is gonna bring to the table and how long

1062
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 20: he'll stick around. But I would really love like a

1063
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 20: Steve Spagnolo kind of guy who's like he's done the

1064
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 20: head coaching thing. He's coming back and probably not going

1065
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 20: to go do the head coaching thing again and just

1066
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 20: laying as a defensive coordinator and coaching a great defense

1067
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 20: in Kansas City. Now, obviously Matti Refluse, he was a

1068
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 20: head coach for a second. Who knows if that's in

1069
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 20: his future again, But he's I think, considerably younger than Bags.

1070
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 20: But yeah, I'm just curious about your thought on the

1071
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 20: uberfluce higher and the continuity. For Mike's sake, you know,

1072
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 20: I like using him in different ways, but also you know,

1073
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 20: if he's doing a new defense every year or two,

1074
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 20: you know, is that gonna hinder his ability or or

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Speaker 20: really expand his potential?

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Speaker 1: So great, great points, Zach, I'll say this, Spagnolu, it

1077
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: might be that might be what Eberflus is, you know,

1078
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like when you view him as a defensive

1079
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: coordinator with a team that's won a lot of Super Bowls?

1080
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: And is it you know, is it Andy Reid, It's

1081
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Holmes Kelsey, Chris Jones? And then now you know, we're

1082
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: really starting to see Spagnolau as far as get you know,

1083
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: he he gets a lot of praise as well. Compare

1084
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: him as a or evaluate him as a head coach.

1085
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it was it was that great. Obviously

1086
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: he didn't get another another turn at it. So you know,

1087
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: there's some great there's great guys that Dick Lebow might

1088
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: be another one, great assistance, great coordinators, not so great

1089
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: as a head coach in Campo. You could throw Dave

1090
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: Campbell in there as well. Maybe Matt Eberflus is that guy.

1091
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: You know that that's what we're about to find out.

1092
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: He's a lot younger, but he might be that guy

1093
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: as far as you know, really good coordinators, really good schemes,

1094
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think I don't think Eberflus

1095
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: is a bad coach. I mean, that was a really

1096
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: unusual set of circumstances there. They're they're two or three

1097
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: two or three games that that I mean really go

1098
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: one way or another. They go his way. You know,

1099
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: he's still the head coach of the Bears probably, so

1100
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the way it is. And a

1101
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: few other callers had called in and talking about changes

1102
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: from Schottenheim or tweaks and stuff. You know, you know,

1103
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: can they really change a lot? Think about changing two

1104
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: or three things on your offensive line and your running

1105
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: game or whatever that that that might just affect us

1106
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: one drive, this field goal drive turned into a touchdown,

1107
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: and they did it three times and that got them

1108
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: fourteen seventeen more points. That that that won that game.

1109
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: That might win two or three others, and you know,

1110
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: give yourself three or four, you know, three wins or

1111
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: so give yourself three wins different. Now what is that

1112
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: ten and seven? But three wins that matter. Now you're

1113
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: playing for the last game of the season. Maybe you

1114
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: know you maybe the last games you're playing it totally different.

1115
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you win that game. I just did a few

1116
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: tweaks here and there to the offense that that affected

1117
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: this drive and then this drive and this drive, and

1118
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: that won me a game, and I won two or

1119
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: three games. Now I'm in the playoffs. I just changed

1120
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: my whole season based off a few tweaks. I know

1121
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not that simple all the time. But

1122
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: the point is that I don't think. I think when

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: you're sitting right there at that seven and ten, eight, nine,

1124
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: nine and eight, you're there. Now that being said, you

1125
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: can have two or three things to go the other way,

1126
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 1: and you might be a four and thirteen football team

1127
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: if you can go three wins this way. You can

1128
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: go three that way. You got to remember that. So

1129
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: that's the way it is. Make sure these tweaks are

1130
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: the good ones and the right ones. But I don't

1131
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: think in this league it's hard to make that big

1132
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: jump from one to another. All right, let's go to

1133
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: another break here on Cowboys storyline. We'll be right back

1134
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: after this Cowboys fans.

1135
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Speaker 12: There is no eye in Dallas.

1145
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 5: There is no eye in heart, either no eye in

1146
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: blue star or a lone star for that matter, And

1147
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 5: there's no eye in how about them Cowboys smear enough

1148
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: knows there's no eye in football. Football is a wee

1149
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 5: thing and experience that is best enjoyed together with good

1150
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 5: drinks and good folks home or away. We rally together,

1151
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: we cry together, and we always rally cry together because

1152
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 5: there's definitely no eye in Cowboys.

1153
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Fans smear enough we do game days.

1154
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 5: Please drink responsibly.

1155
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: It's Cowboys storyline right back here on Cowboys storyline. I'm

1156
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman. I want to hear from you guys. Aight

1157
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: a A eight five five two two nine seven. Probably

1158
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: got another fifteen to twenty minutes to go, so got

1159
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: a chance to get a few more callers. I know

1160
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: this will be the first time a lot of you

1161
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: have been able to really throw your comments out there

1162
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: about Brian Schottenheimer. Mostly positive, uh not, not not all

1163
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: gung ho, but it's more like, hey, it is what

1164
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: it is. I'm on board. This is the coach of

1165
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: the team. And that's kind of That's the way I've

1166
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: always felt when when my team hires a new coach.

1167
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I wasn't the one I was looking at it first,

1168
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: and you know, but but you know, he's the coach.

1169
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team. Let's go. I mean,

1170
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: that's what am I gonna do? How am I gonna change?

1171
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: That's kind of the way I've always kind of felt.

1172
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: But but I think, and I think because the bar

1173
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: is very low and you don't know much about this guy,

1174
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: that I think that he was able to impress some

1175
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: with with the way he carried himself in the press conference. Again, like,

1176
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: none of this matters if you don't go win games.

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01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows that. Okay, So you can Dan

1178
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Campbell saying we're gonna go bite kneecaps and all that.

1179
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: That wouldn't have mattered. It would have been it would

1180
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: have been laughable if they didn't go and have some

1181
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: success that they've had. So that was one of those

1182
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: those press conferences that that that people remember and and

1183
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: and they yeah, I'm sure their fans got excited, and

1184
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: it's turned out that that they did. He did, he

1185
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: turned things around. This wasn't that kind of press conference,

1186
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, he had some moments and

1187
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: some lines in there about you know, of what they're

1188
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: trying to do and and and how how they can

1189
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: get there. So now it's now it's up to him,

1190
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, go go figure it out. All right, let's

1191
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: go to Rick. He's at Webster, Massachusetts.

1192
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: What's up, NX. How you doing?

1193
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Good?

1194
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: How are you all right, Yeah, Friday night's news is like,

1195
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: oh okay, that's good. Well, let's see where we go

1196
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 2: from here. Let's give him a guy a shot. You know,

1197
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: I like what he said Monday's press conference trying to

1198
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: motion and all that stuff. They're shorten the line to

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: the field down to man, getting people close in and

1200
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But you know, let's see what he

1201
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: can do, how he does with the draft, you know,

1202
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: OTA's training camp, free agency, and hopefully you know, they'll

1203
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: be able to do something in the second or you know,

1204
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: early part of the free agency pickup withoks a couple

1205
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: of key players to fill in some needs if we

1206
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: lose players. So during the regular season, see if he

1207
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: could do something that m Chart wasn't be able to do,

1208
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: is instead of the fifteen players that scripted, have something else.

1209
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, this is what they're doing. Now, let me

1210
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: switch it up and try this instead. You make changes

1211
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: on the fly or half time adjustments and stuff like that.

1212
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Speaker 7: Go with that.

1213
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: If we have a successful season, grave we don't won't

1214
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: try again next year.

1215
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I mean that's that's all you can do.

1216
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, but I I agree, I mean, I do

1217
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: think that he's he's got that in him to you know,

1218
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna take everything that he's learned from different coaches,

1219
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: his father included, and all that and kind of you know,

1220
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy included, learn some of those things. And

1221
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: that's what you do as a head coach. That's what

1222
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: you do in any in any profession. You know, if

1223
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm the boss one day, I'm gonna do this. And

1224
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: so here we are. You know, this is his chance

1225
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: to kind of take all of the things that he's

1226
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: done and imply it.

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: I like the Ebra plus higher and I don't know

1229
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: about the Special Teams guy that don't know much about him.

1230
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: We'll see what he can do. But I definitely love

1231
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 2: the news about and coming back for another fool of years.

1232
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, thank you, sounds good. Thank you.

1233
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Erwin and Colorado. Sorry, we

1234
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: got news breaking here er in Colorado.

1235
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Speaker 3: What's up, hey, Nick?

1236
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1237
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Good?

1238
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: How are you doing good?

1239
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: So you've got some breaking news, But I just wanted

1240
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 4: to touch bases with you a little bit. You broke

1241
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 4: about Will McClay And my question to you is if

1242
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones is so you know, he's basically responsible for

1243
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 4: the draft picks and.

1244
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

1245
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: Will McClay is like his right hand man in that regards,

1246
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: and we all know that he's pretty good, really good

1247
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: at what he does. But seems to me like Will

1248
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 4: McClay seems to get a pass every now and then

1249
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: on some of the players that have been picked. And

1250
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 4: we all know some of those players' names, And why

1251
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: does it seem like McClay seems to get a pass

1252
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: on these types of players.

1253
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: That Will Why Will get to pass on players?

1254
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 4: Yes, because there's been some questionable draft picks and I'm

1255
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 4: sure he's been part of those conversations and now those

1256
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 4: players have picked. I mean, it just seems like and

1257
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not cutting on him or any there. I

1258
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 4: think he's a really good person in the organization. I

1259
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 4: think he's done a really good job with what he's

1260
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 4: been doing. But no one ever seems to criticize McClay

1261
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 4: as being the so called general manager, because everybody kind

1262
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 4: of looks at him as that anyways. But it just

1263
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: seems like he just from fans abroad, Nothing ever comes

1264
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 4: up about McClay making bad picks. And I just wanted

1265
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 4: to get your take on that.

1266
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: Well, my take on that is that's why he probably

1267
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: had the pen in hand when they said you want

1268
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: to sign this deal. I mean, what what better job

1269
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: is there than that? I mean, like, he's got GM duties,

1270
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the GM title, and he doesn't have

1271
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: the he doesn't have the blowback when when there are

1272
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: some bad picks, you know, so it sounds like a

1273
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: pretty awesome job. I mean, and you're right, you're right.

1274
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: No one ever says Taco good, good pick. Will I mean, no,

1275
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: no one does that. You're you're right. I think that. Yeah,

1276
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean this team should get some criticism for I mean,

1277
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: you don't not all the picks are great. I think

1278
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: I think though, over the time that the track record

1279
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: has been, hey, this has been a really you know,

1280
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: they they've done a great job drafting guys. But the

1281
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: last what three years, I think the last three years

1282
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: you could say we haven't seen as much Yester Arron

1283
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: Bland was a great mid round pick, and so was Ferguson.

1284
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: But the last year both of them stepped back, did

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Speaker 1: not make a Pro Bowl injuries or whatever happened. So

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Speaker 1: and then the and combine that with the first round

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Speaker 1: picks have not been that good at all, you know.

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Speaker 4: But the other thing, I think he kind of has

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Speaker 4: a hand in, and not only the draft picks, but

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Speaker 4: the free agency. Don't you think that Will McLay should

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01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 4: have a little bit more say on listen, we need

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Speaker 4: to really go after like, let's just say Henry because

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Speaker 4: Henry is really going to help running me And you

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Speaker 4: talked about this last year when they were in the

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Speaker 4: free agency about a running back they.

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Speaker 6: Didn't do it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't Will McClay have some big, big time saying stuff

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does. And I think but that

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: that goes in line with I don't think he's necessarily

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: changing their opinions on on what they're what their their

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: plan is as far as strategy and and philosophy on

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01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: building through the draft and not so much through free agency.

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: I think this last year might might have changed some

1305
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: things for league wide, you know, because the theory is

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01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: is that these running backs, you pay him a third contract,

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: then they're not going to be that great. And Derrick

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01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: Henry and and Saquon Barkley, they they proved a lot

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01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: of people wrong a lot, and and and not just them,

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01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: there were some other good, pretty good free agent running backs,

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: so that that might have changed the way things are done.

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01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: And you know it's a copycat league. Let's see if

1313
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: the if the Cowboys and other teams, uh, you know,

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: change their mind when it comes to getting running backs

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Speaker 1: a little bit later in their career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, thanks a lot, Nick particular my call.

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Speaker 1: Thanks verwon appreciate that. Uh, let's go to Sebastian. He's

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Speaker 1: in Savannah, Georgia. What's up Sebastian?

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Speaker 18: Myself by me though.

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Speaker 21: I'm doing sir, How are you say I'm doing good?

1321
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 21: You know what, Let me just be one of the

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01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 21: first people to actually come out and say congratulations to

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 21: Brian Schottenheimer on getting a position of the promotion.

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01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Uh, mister Eman. At some point in time, we all

1326
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 21: needed an opportunity. You got your opportunity with the Cowboys

1327
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 21: a long time ago. Somebody saw something in you to

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 21: look at how it turned out for you. So I'm

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 21: hoping that it turns out well. I'm never going against

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Speaker 21: the head coach to be like, oh, I hope we

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 21: take the season or something like that.

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Speaker 17: I hope this goes well.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 21: In Jerry's advancing age, he's just going to pick a

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 21: guy who he could just fully around, but he doesn't

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 21: believe can do the job. So that being said, I

1337
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 21: hope they give him every single tool that he needs

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01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 21: working closely with Will McClay. And I believe in Will McClay,

1339
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 21: and I'm gonna go ahead and choose a believer in

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 21: Brian Schottnheimer as well.

1341
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Speaker 1: All right, well I appreciate that, And again we don't

1342
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: have a choice, you know, like like this is it.

1343
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: I bet, I've bet it does help when when people

1344
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: kind of when buy in a little bit. But you know,

1345
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: I mean I say it helps. I mean it's it's helped,

1346
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: it's easier for this show. But but you know, again,

1347
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: these these calls are great, like like when the guy

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: like you sur Bashan calls in and says, hey, I'm

1349
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: on a congratulations, let's go let's do this, Like that's

1350
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: that's great. We seven calls ago when Rob from Vegas

1351
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: called in and said terrible higher Okay, you know, like

1352
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out and and you know,

1353
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: two years, three years, we'll find out just how how

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01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: good these hires are. Just like the Bears are going

1355
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: to find out if their coach is good, just like

1356
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: the Jets will find out if Aaron Glenn is a

1357
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: good coach, you know, we'll we'll find out. We'll find out.

1358
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,719
Speaker 1: But the Raiders, if Pete Carroll is still a good coach,

1359
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: just because he's done it before, that doesn't mean it's

1360
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: it's all gonna work out.

1361
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 11: You know.

1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that have to go right

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: for the coaching situation to work. And we'll see if

1364
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer can get can get that to turn here with

1365
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and take those things that he's learned for

1366
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: so many years, not just as a coach, but also

1367
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: a little kid at the table, you know, listening to

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Speaker 1: his dad. I mean, we'll see, we'll see if he's

1369
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: got that in him. All right, Robbie and Coco Beach,

1370
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Speaker 1: Florida is next.

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Speaker 12: What's up?

1372
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 11: Nick Boy?

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: Took forever to get in.

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 18: I've been calling just before the show started. Oh well,

1375
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 18: you're popular, man, I love you, man.

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01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 8: We all do well.

1377
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: They they you know these this is the show. This

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: is the first show since the since the news.

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's got got opinion. I mean I look at

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: it like, you know, there's there's fifteen twenty twenty five

1382
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: people that call a lot and uh, you know you

1383
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: want to get in for this show, and and so

1384
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: I get it. I wish we could even go a

1385
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: little bit longer. But iron half it is good. And

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 1: of course we've got Cowboys Cowboys Break coming up after this,

1387
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: so that all week long, a lot of the you know,

1388
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear what you have to say.

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01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: There's there's people that you know, have it, haven't got

1390
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: a chance to really talk about the hire as well.

1391
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: We'll hear that on Cowboys Break coming up after this.

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: But Robbie, what do you got?

1393
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 18: So the number of years ago there was this guy,

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 18: Jimmy Johnson's a great college coach. I had such apprehension

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01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 18: about him coming over and taking over for the Cowboys

1396
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 18: after Tom Landry, because you know, Landry was stand there

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 18: and God to all of us, he was awesome. He

1398
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 18: was good, good Christian, good person, great leader, awesome when

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 18: this tough start came in, you made us the best

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Speaker 18: team in the NFL for Kloy Well mind you, salary cap.

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 18: My apprehension this time is that Schottenheimer great dad, beautiful lineage,

1403
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 18: good coaching experience, but he's never really done anything with

1404
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 18: this twenty five years experience makes it a little apprehensive. Yeah,

1405
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 18: but I'm still faithful Cowboys fan man, and I hope

1406
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 18: the best for him. And I'll say congratulations to him too,

1407
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 18: like Sabath did. Yeah, and I hope, I hope he

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 18: does well. I hope he does what Jimmy did, puts

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01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 18: our what's our team back in the playoffs and the

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01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 18: super Bowls and you know, the best team in the

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 18: NFL again. Yeah, I don't know if it will happen,

1412
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 18: but I sure hope. So the Matt Eberflus higher because

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 18: he was a linebackers coach under Rob Ryan.

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Speaker 19: Is that right?

1415
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: And it was Marinelli. Yeah, he's for a little bit.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And I remember both of them. Marinelli and Rob

1417
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 18: Ryan talked such great praises about him as a coach.

1418
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 18: And I think I'm pretty pleased about him being.

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Speaker 7: A d C.

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Speaker 18: I think that's gonna work really well.

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01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1422
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: And other than that, I know you got calls.

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01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 18: So if you got anything to add on ibra Flus

1424
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 18: of his time here before that, you know, of great,

1425
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 18: If not, then at the next fell.

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Speaker 19: Thanks brother.

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Speaker 18: I appreciate you time, man.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate appreciate you. You know, he ebra flu got

1429
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: he got a pretty good gift there when he got

1430
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: the coach Sean Lee. Because Sean Lee is like a

1431
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: coach on the field, but he's not trying to be

1432
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 1: a coach. He's trying to be a player. So a

1433
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: lot of times when you have a a coach on

1434
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: the field, you know, they they don't always do what

1435
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do as far as to help all

1436
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: the other guys. Yeah, they can coach, they know the

1437
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: game inside and out, but but are do they take

1438
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: coaching as well too? And Shaun Lee was really good

1439
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: at that. I think he helped Iberflus early on, you know,

1440
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: just just by having a guy that you know, he

1441
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: didn't have to be the hard ass all the time

1442
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: because he got Sean Lee right here. So but when

1443
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: he went to Indianapolis, he did a nice job. I

1444
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: think he had Darius Leonard there, Shack Leonard and and

1445
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: and that that kind of, you know, kind of helped

1446
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: take his game to another level with the Colts. But uh,

1447
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: and I might not have all my years just right

1448
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: on what Eberflus has done, but I'm pretty sure that

1449
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: that was the case there when he was with the Colts.

1450
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to be a good hire.

1451
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: And and you know, Robbie said something about Jimmy as

1452
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: a coach, and and and and he also said, you know,

1453
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: not sure what a Schottenheimer done in the twenty five years.

1454
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's what the biggest gripe is. And I

1455
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: think he understands that. Everyone understands that, you know, did

1456
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: you deserve this opportunity? Did you you know, what have

1457
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: you done to show that you can do that? And

1458
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: we just talked about Steve Spagnolo and and he you know, great,

1459
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: great credentials as a coordinator. You know, he's won all

1460
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. You know, it's with the Giants coordinator

1461
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: and obviously the Chiefs when he was a head coach

1462
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. So so sometimes, you know, and

1463
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: that's what happens. I mean, these guys with the Lions,

1464
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: these these two coordinators, because of the Lion's success, they

1465
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: get jobs. Does that mean they're going to be good? No,

1466
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that. And so we've seen it both ways,

1467
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, now Schottenheimer. But but and I wrote this

1468
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: in my column on Monday, Schottenheimer got hired because of

1469
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: the things we just can't see. You just can't You

1470
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: can't see the relationships that he has with people, the

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01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: way the way he talks to people, the way that

1472
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: that he understands uh, you know, the relationships that he

1473
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: understands how to build culture. Those are just things you

1474
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: just can't see. And we're not going to see it

1475
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: in time. What we see is production, lack of production

1476
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: x's and o's, things like that, rankings and their offensive

1477
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: rankings stuff, those kind of things, and and that right

1478
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: there is not going to impress a lot of the people.

1479
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: And I understand that, and I bet you he understands

1480
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: that where he's going to have to take it to

1481
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: another level. It's those things, those intangible things you just

1482
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: can't see. All right, let's go, uh, well, one more

1483
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: Tumre calls. Let's go Sheriff Lonnie. He's in Kansas. Oh, Nick,

1484
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: how are you doing?

1485
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 19: All? Doing? Okay? All right?

1486
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 3: What's up?

1487
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 7: All? Not much?

1488
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 5: I just.

1489
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 19: I was surprised at the pick, and I had a

1490
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 19: lot of things at the beginning I was negative on

1491
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 19: and I decided, you know what, I'm gonna stay positive

1492
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 19: because Aaron Glenn, Yeah he might have been, but you

1493
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 19: don't know the same way with Johnson. They're new guys.

1494
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 19: You don't know if how they can coach head coach. Wife.

1495
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 19: There's a lot of good coordinators that aren't wouldn't make

1496
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 19: good head coaches, but they're great coordinators. And so I

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Speaker 19: decided I'm not gonna be negative. I lived through the

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Speaker 19: one and the one win season, and I stuck with

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Speaker 19: the Cowboys. All these haters that are gonna couit and

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Speaker 19: all that, well, I guess, go ahead, but I'm sticking

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Speaker 19: by them, and give Shaddy a chance and see what happens.

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Speaker 19: And you got to put good coaches and players around you.

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Speaker 19: I don't care who you are. I don't care if

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Speaker 19: you're Belichick or whoever. You got to put people around

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Speaker 19: you're that's gonna make a good football team. And that's all.

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Speaker 19: That's all I got to say. And uh, looking forward

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Speaker 19: to another things.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it, Thank you, Lonnie. Uh, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep it moving here Brian in Florida. We are last call, Brian.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 19: All right?

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Speaker 13: How you doing good?

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Speaker 12: Good?

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Speaker 13: Right to the point, Jerry, I'm a longtime Dallas fan. Jerry,

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Speaker 13: during his press conference, said that he's the best person

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Speaker 13: for the job to get Dallas out of his drums.

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Speaker 13: I'm sorry, I just can't bite it anymore. How many

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Speaker 13: head coaches has he gone through? And it hasn't until

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Speaker 13: he proves it, it's it's just more cliches.

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Speaker 7: I just you got to prove.

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Speaker 13: I'm not even asking for a super Bowl. Get to

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Speaker 13: an NFC conference game. You don't even have to win it,

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Speaker 13: just get there. He hasn't done it, So fire the

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Speaker 13: head coaches.

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Speaker 12: But you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh hey, Nick, all right, Uh yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 1: hear that last part.

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Speaker 13: You say that again, Nick, right to the point. How

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Speaker 13: many head coaches has Jerry gone through and he it

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Speaker 13: hasn't worked. He says the press conference that he's the

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Speaker 13: best person.

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Speaker 7: So what.

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Speaker 1: What would you say? Okay, yeah, we did hear that part.

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Speaker 1: So what what would you say would be? So what

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Speaker 1: should he do? Fire himself? As the GMS that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying.

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Speaker 13: Get someone to help him or something, or do you

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Speaker 13: know you keep doing the same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 13: You're repeating the process, and that's what they're doing. That's

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Speaker 13: what there's this droughts. Do something.

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Speaker 4: I did it.

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Speaker 13: I'm not nothing against shot in hyper I hope.

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Speaker 17: He's great.

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Speaker 13: He's Jerry's not the best person for the job.

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Speaker 7: All Right, it's proven.

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Speaker 19: Okay, that's all.

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Speaker 13: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got it. I got it, And that

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because of uh, you know, is he

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Speaker 1: the right person?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's his job. It's his job, it's it's his organization.

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Speaker 1: He could make that that you know, he makes that

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Speaker 1: that those decisions to put himself in that in that situation.

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Speaker 1: If you believe he's the only decision maker, then then

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Speaker 1: your head is too far in the sand that that

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Speaker 1: that you know, you'll die. I mean, if you believe that,

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Speaker 1: then it's it's ridiculous. He's got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that he listens to, sometimes too many. One of them

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Speaker 1: is Will McLay. And Will McLay is a guy that

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Speaker 1: just signed a four year extension to be uh the

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Speaker 1: vice president of player Personnel here for the next at

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Speaker 1: least four years, uh, if not longer than that. So,

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Speaker 1: and he does have Jerry's ear. He is the closest

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Speaker 1: thing to the GM as you would want. And I

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Speaker 1: think people are hung up on titles and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Jerry gets a lot of people, a lot of opinions,

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Speaker 1: a lot of voices uh in his ear to to

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Speaker 1: to help him make some of these decisions. And UH

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Speaker 1: and one of them is Will, and Will is going

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Speaker 1: to be here. So guys, great show, appreciate it. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back next Wednesday to do it all over again.

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Speaker 1: UH for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. See next time.

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Speaker 1: On the storyline.

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