1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Single best idea and across three hours of broadcasting this 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: morning seven to ten am Wall Street Time. What a 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: set of cross currents. Yes, we're looking at tech earnings, 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Tim and Carol will have that this afternoon across all 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: of our properties, Microsoft and Google. But all of a sudden, 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: economics can get in a way. That's the power of economics. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Something will come out and there'll be a big decision. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: And I want to take thirty seconds here to nuance this. Clearly, 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: the consensus of the people that we spoke to was 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: this report was not as grim as a positive one 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: point six percent statistic. That's sort of there's been different 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: phrases for it over the decades, but it's sort of 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: edge of recession. It's not. And the answer is is 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: that all those imports coming in from abroad to a 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: buoyant American economy, buying those imports coming in from abroad 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: in the algebra of GDP diminished the number and the 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: domestic numbers were actually much better than positive one point 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: six percent. So that's the backdrop here. We're going to 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: talk to Aniwong here in a moment of Bloomberg economics. 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: But before that and before the GDP report, Ben Laidler, 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: excuse me, I'm gasping his exhausting morning. Ben Laidler of 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: ETRO has just been outstanding about rationalizing your desire to 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: stay in the stock market. Here is Ben Ladler, a 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: little bit on Europe, but much more on a faith 26 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: in equity investment. 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: Talked about Europe fantastic cynical story, less good structural story. 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: I think the US and big tech remained fantastic structural stories. 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, we may have baked in high valuations and 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: high earnings right now, but I think they will continue 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: to deliver as we use more tech, as they have 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: these huge motes, as they have these sort of strong 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: balance sheets, and so yes, I will be trimming back 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: on big tech to look at the more economically sense, 35 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: the cheaper bits of the world. But I think the 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: US and big tech is absolutely fine. 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: Many views on that towards what Ben Ladler's saying, and 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: I sh'd mention there's others going the other way. Phil 39 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: Comer was in well timed futures or I think now 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: futures are negative two hundred on their way to negative 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: six hundred, and phil Comer really takes a different view, 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: just saying enough of the huge rally in big tech. 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: I'll let you decide. We don't have an opinion here 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: of what to do. We just bring you the different voices. 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: Anna Wong is out of the Chicago Combine in this 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: head of US economics for Bloomberg. She's done some really 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: nuanced stuff. She's like everybody else, She's been right, she's 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: been wrong. But what's interesting about Anna Wong is she'll 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: turn on a dime and here is the single best 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: idea from Anna Wong. She has to recalibrate given the 51 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: nuances of pretty good GDP, but also this really concerning 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: higher service sector inflation, and along of Bloomberg. 53 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: I think after having four months of data, we have 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 4: decided that even though we did see from yesterday's revised 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: data that payroll is like the negative in the third quarter, 56 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: I think Powell's pivot in December was so powerful that 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: it staunched a lot of the emergence recessionary dynamics in 58 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: the third quarter. 59 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: And right now we have revised up our first half 60 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: of growth path and also inflation path to be stronger, 61 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: and I think what we need to see from Powell 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: next week is a bigger hawkish pivot in order to 63 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: get inflation back on a path of disinflation, given that 64 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: the strength right now is due to his pivot. 65 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: There it is, Eric, I'm sorry. All we're going to 66 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: about for the next five days is hawkish pivot. Hawk 67 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: aduvish pivot, hawkish pivot. That's a phraser. Animal uses a phrase, 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: so to a lot of other people. What does it 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: come down to? Go back? Important? One of the advantages 70 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: of single best idea is you can go back and 71 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: I will commend to you. I believe it was yesterday 72 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: or the day before. Lindsey Piegs of Steefel was brilliant 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: on the hawkish pivot in mincing no words that this 74 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 2: is a fed that has to raise rates. She meants, 75 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what Lindsay Piegsa publishes at 76 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Stifel over the next coming days, maybe out one week 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: or so. Of course, the important inflation numbers that we 78 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: see tomorrow. We'll have this for you at eight thirty 79 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning. But the point here is, maybe that's the 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: new phrase. Off of the debris that we saw today. 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: Hawkish pivot is well in play. A buoyant domestic economy, 82 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: interesting trade dynamic and service sector inflation that is not transitory. 83 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: There I said the dreaded T word. All I can 84 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: say is Apple car Play, Android Play. 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