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Speaker 2: Jack made a call and struck Gold A pioneer in
Speaker 2: this music space. Me being the West Coast kid, very
Speaker 2: instrumental in my upbringing. Welcome to the show, d OC.
Speaker 2: Oh yeahs yeah, man, we appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Jack.
Speaker 2: When did you first hear of d OC? You're out
Speaker 2: this way, yeah, coach.
Speaker 3: Being in the streets, I think I first heard the
Speaker 3: album through DJ Screw being in that area.
Speaker 6: He screwed pe.
Speaker 1: Huh r ip to the legend.
Speaker 3: A lot of our music would slowed down down there,
Speaker 3: and a lot of the news that we learned from
Speaker 3: East Coast to West we heard through DJ Screw because
Speaker 3: a lot of musers wouldn't played on our radio.
Speaker 1: So that's how we got hip to DC.
Speaker 3: And then then him being from Texas and having a
Speaker 3: relationship with him and bun Bee I got, you know,
Speaker 3: just being in that circle. That's how we just you know,
Speaker 3: grew up listening to him and knew he was a
Speaker 3: legend coming from Texas.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, I didn't look at you your fit.
Speaker 2: It's nice, bro, what is that?
Speaker 1: So? Said son? Mom? There George? Yeah, appreciated, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I see clean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that boyd clean so off camera.
Speaker 2: You told us you have some stuff cooking, so we
Speaker 2: can't expect fingers crossed. You ain't got to tell us
Speaker 2: the whole thing, but some music coming from you.
Speaker 6: Uh so, b, I really don't want to you know what, anything.
Speaker 4: Is possible, Okay, Yeah, just just wee there's a chance.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bro, I'm in a full circle moment in my experience.
Speaker 7: Uh well, I think I'm in the gay opportunity to
Speaker 7: do it, to do a lot of stuff that that
Speaker 7: might have passed me by the first time around, some
Speaker 7: G O D things, not DC thing. So he feel
Speaker 7: like I'm ready, and shit, I feel like I'm ready, Toll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, explain to us what you were talking about earlier
Speaker 2: about kind of how things are starting to revert back
Speaker 2: to you after a certain amount of time. You're starting
Speaker 2: to get you know, the credit for I was.
Speaker 7: Talking about the reversion rule in most contracts that was
Speaker 7: done back in those days. Thirty five years after the
Speaker 7: music is released, it reverts back to the original publisher.
Speaker 7: So that means all those things that I wrote for
Speaker 7: those boys and for myself that might have been moved
Speaker 7: out the way in a way, I'm gonna find that
Speaker 7: way back starting.
Speaker 4: This year, So what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: You got to think thirty five years You've seen a
Speaker 2: lot of people come and go in that time, and
Speaker 2: the fact that you're still here. We're obviously gonna get
Speaker 2: into your journey. But the fact that you're sitting here
Speaker 2: thirty five years later, finally going to really be able
Speaker 2: to read the benefits of all your hard work, what
Speaker 2: does that mean to you?
Speaker 7: I was telling you about my boys legend and Diggie
Speaker 7: is myself old eighty nine and really, bro it's about them,
Speaker 7: you know, like, and not just my boys, all those
Speaker 7: young boys out there, Like, I got a lot to give.
Speaker 7: I had a hell of a testimony, and it says
Speaker 7: that you can have anything you want in this world,
Speaker 7: but be careful what you asked for because you might
Speaker 7: get this shit and if you're not prepared for it,
Speaker 7: then then it'll destroy you.
Speaker 3: Being for Texas and being a lezard from Texas, explain
Speaker 3: to me how you ended up in the West Coast.
Speaker 7: There was a DJ down there named Doctor Rock in
Speaker 7: the in the mid eighties. He came from la He
Speaker 7: was a part of the Wrecking Crew World Class Working
Speaker 7: Crew DJ S. In fact, Dra took his place when
Speaker 7: he when he moved here, and so uh when he
Speaker 7: got on the air down here, he broke a lot
Speaker 7: of their records down here.
Speaker 1: Ah okay.
Speaker 7: So to pay him back for doing that, dre produced
Speaker 7: four songs for you in his little group called the
Speaker 7: Felis First Crew, which how I was in. And so
Speaker 7: I made out what felis all the time. I mean,
Speaker 7: but I shit, I didn't know nothing, abod no damn
Speaker 7: Felix man. I was from the West Dollas Project. I
Speaker 7: was broke as a joke. But the rock that was
Speaker 7: his thing, you know. But when Drake came down and
Speaker 7: he heard me busting, he was like, man, you just shit.
Speaker 7: If you was in California, I guarantee.
Speaker 6: You we'd be rich.
Speaker 7: At first, I turned him down, but about six months
Speaker 7: later I dropped out of our school and my mother said,
Speaker 7: you're going to the Army. And I called Drake back.
Speaker 8: I said that deal still stay said yeah, fly here.
Speaker 6: I selectly I'm not there.
Speaker 2: So, like you said, you and dra met each other
Speaker 2: at what sixteen years old high school?
Speaker 3: You were still in high school. That's crazy. Me being
Speaker 3: from South Texas. Dallas always is like more like California
Speaker 3: to us. To be in the text like this because
Speaker 3: the gang culture, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. How
Speaker 3: different was the gang culture being what?
Speaker 6: It was?
Speaker 7: No gang culture when I left Dallas? Yeah, Like when
Speaker 7: I left Dallas, everybody wanted to be from New York.
Speaker 7: There was warning, leather and tims. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Then I went to LA and made these records with
Speaker 7: these boys, and then I came back the next year
Speaker 7: and everybody looked like Easy.
Speaker 1: You ain't.
Speaker 4: With the drip curls too.
Speaker 7: Everybody looked like either with the sag and then the
Speaker 7: five h one with the hard crease. Sir, Easy was
Speaker 7: a staple of what would be the next thirty five
Speaker 7: years of me. They're still trying to be Easy to
Speaker 7: this day.
Speaker 2: Speak to him, though, because I don't think he gets
Speaker 2: enough credit for just his creativity, his willingness to make
Speaker 2: the ship go. You always hear a lot of stories
Speaker 2: about just what kind of person he was. Speak to him,
Speaker 2: and and kind of his creative and in his mind,
Speaker 2: and how instrumental obviously all you guys coming together.
Speaker 7: Was Easy was a real one. If it's a such
Speaker 7: thing as a real one. He was that, you know what,
Speaker 7: I man, and I don't think he thought steps ahead, uh,
Speaker 7: in his music space. He just wanted it all right now.
Speaker 6: But he had that.
Speaker 7: It wasn't the most talented dude in the world, couldn't
Speaker 7: write work for them, really couldn't rap work. But he
Speaker 7: had that yeah, yeah, that thing about him that when
Speaker 7: he walked in, you didn't have to see him come in,
Speaker 7: you kind of just knew he was. He was in there,
Speaker 7: and and all the little girls, they loved him and
Speaker 7: they had that voice. And it's hard to lose with
Speaker 7: with Dre's production, Bros. It's really impossible to lose with
Speaker 7: doctor Dre making your making your sound. And this is
Speaker 7: before the world knew who Dre was. I knew who
Speaker 7: Dre it was. And Dre used to listen. You don't
Speaker 7: do a lot of listening these.
Speaker 6: Back then.
Speaker 7: He took Mary, you know, he took my advice really seriously.
Speaker 7: And if you listen to World Class Working Crew, to
Speaker 7: the early n w A stuff, to my record, you
Speaker 7: could see that. You can see him again to stretch,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So by the time.
Speaker 1: We're going away from him, start going away from your sound.
Speaker 7: No, he started leaving the n w A stuff going
Speaker 7: into my stuff you could see early g Funk.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: By the time he got to the chronic he was
Speaker 7: stretching his wings and by the time he got the
Speaker 7: Dollar style, he was just out of his world.
Speaker 1: Ocean Yeah yeah, yeah, been from Texas.
Speaker 3: Any Southern rap groups, because I know you know a
Speaker 3: lot about the Southern rap scene in Texas. Any groups
Speaker 3: that inspired you when you was coming up rapping all.
Speaker 7: Of them man student of the game. But when I
Speaker 7: when I was coming up as a young man, all
Speaker 7: my competition was in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: It was Rock Kim and Koochie rapping, Big Daddy Kane
Speaker 7: and Slick Rick and k r rest One. I was
Speaker 7: battling against those dudes, the guys down there in Dallas.
Speaker 7: They were my contemporaries, but they wasn't as good as me, right,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I was trying to get
Speaker 7: really and really and truly it was Rocky. I want
Speaker 7: to be better than that dude. If I could be
Speaker 7: better than him, then I'm good.
Speaker 1: Being in Texas.
Speaker 3: He was the only rapper we even knew that was
Speaker 3: from Dallas for years. You know, I didn't start hearing
Speaker 3: from rappers from from Dalla to the Yellow Beases and
Speaker 3: stuff coming out. That's that's how long it's been.
Speaker 6: It's a lot of them though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of Most threes and all that.
Speaker 7: But before Most three and trop Boy and Yellow Beesy
Speaker 7: and those guys. Oh what's up.
Speaker 3: One guy from Dallas, he used to rapper Swisher House,
Speaker 3: he used to rapp with the Mother Boys.
Speaker 1: And Swisher House.
Speaker 6: Ron C.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ron Se.
Speaker 7: It's a lot of boys from Texas and Big Tuck
Speaker 7: and Tum Tum and cotton Mouth.
Speaker 3: And I remember Big Talk. Yeah, he had a big,
Speaker 3: big too.
Speaker 1: A lot of those boys.
Speaker 6: And you know it's before it got really.
Speaker 7: Uh just dirty, you know, got violent and what they
Speaker 7: call drill music, before guys start really trying to live
Speaker 7: the records on TV and film theyself being young assholes.
Speaker 7: You know, the music lost the love, the soul and
Speaker 7: it started just being about the bullshit. You know, when
Speaker 7: I was a young man, they used to slow dance.
Speaker 7: They don't do that no more. You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: You go to you go to a spot and you
Speaker 7: see a bunch of niggas dogs skip my language. You
Speaker 7: see a bunch of niggas in the corner dancing with
Speaker 7: each other. He's like, what the fuck is going on
Speaker 7: in there? No, I couldn't dance for it, for down
Speaker 7: when I was young. So when they were slow dancing,
Speaker 7: I was scared of them, scared of the little girls.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't.
Speaker 7: I'd be standing like cool J in the corner with.
Speaker 6: The with my coolj A can't go on but ship.
Speaker 7: They would slow down and you would hear switch and
Speaker 7: ready for the world, you know, not.
Speaker 1: Get you get your grind on. Yeah, you have to down,
Speaker 1: you do, just move side to side and stay close enough.
Speaker 4: You stan ain't your box?
Speaker 1: Explain the birth.
Speaker 3: Of the West Coast and how it came about, the
Speaker 3: West Coast style, the rap scene, how it came about
Speaker 3: in your mind?
Speaker 7: When I got to the coast, Uh, they didn't want
Speaker 7: to let that shit happen.
Speaker 6: It was only a M radio.
Speaker 7: They didn't play rap on FM radio, mostly because the
Speaker 7: gang culture was was influencing.
Speaker 6: And so I took it upart myself.
Speaker 7: To write for those guys, records that weren't as threatening,
Speaker 7: you know, stuff that's funny and clever. And when I
Speaker 7: first got to La, you know, a few days after
Speaker 7: I got there, we all ended up in the studio.
Speaker 6: Everybody was.
Speaker 7: Everybody except Q was there that day and Drey pulled
Speaker 7: up the beat that we Won't Easy, which is a
Speaker 7: great radio record, and so he said, you got anything
Speaker 7: for that doc? And I wrote, I twisted up something
Speaker 7: for Eric, and that was the thing that broke him through.
Speaker 1: You know, like you.
Speaker 7: Couldn't hold him back after that, after you've seen Easy
Speaker 7: in that video, you couldn't hold him back. That record
Speaker 7: sold multi platinum with one single, Wow, you know, and
Speaker 7: it was that single. He only did one video and
Speaker 7: he was out of there.
Speaker 4: What was that process?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Obviously we got to see it in the movie a
Speaker 4: little bit, but what was what?
Speaker 3: We didn't show you writing for them as much as
Speaker 3: they showed Q writing for everybody.
Speaker 6: I let them boys out of the time.
Speaker 1: I had to say that because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It definitely showed Q right there everybody.
Speaker 6: I hear that all the time.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 7: And they're talking about giving a n W A L
Speaker 7: sit there for the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Ain't nobody
Speaker 7: gonna call me, you know, That's just how it goes now,
Speaker 7: Ce Mike, Yeah, Ce might reach out because he does that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told I told my my team the other day,
Speaker 3: like you always got your the big three games, always together.
Speaker 6: That's my guy. Yeah, because he's a good man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, damn all the rap ship and the
Speaker 7: movie ship.
Speaker 1: He's solid.
Speaker 6: He's just a good man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I always have been, not to say that those other
Speaker 7: guys aren't. But Q, the way he was raised is like.
Speaker 6: A Southern the dude strong family.
Speaker 1: Last night Jackson, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 7: A lot of respect all those men, but but I
Speaker 7: got a lot of love for Q, just just because
Speaker 7: on GPD kind of human being years you know.
Speaker 2: But uh, what was the question the process of kind
Speaker 2: of teaching I how to wrap?
Speaker 7: Yeah, just I laid it. He take it and learn it.
Speaker 7: He come back to the studio and he take him all.
Speaker 7: It take him three or four days to do this ship.
Speaker 7: But uh, at the end of the day, Dre having
Speaker 7: him in pocket and man, look after that.
Speaker 1: Did Didre have to nudge him a lot from being
Speaker 1: off beat?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of you don't know that. I know,
Speaker 1: I know lively about recording, but and.
Speaker 7: That's back in the days when when it wasn't digital
Speaker 7: or it.
Speaker 1: Was analog, so you really had to know.
Speaker 7: But dres Uh you know from and I know I'm
Speaker 7: an one who's speaking from you know, because Dre is
Speaker 7: my guy. But I don't think that there's anybody else
Speaker 7: in hip hop music that's ever been as good as
Speaker 7: he is doing what he does and watching him thirty
Speaker 7: thirty five, almost forty years, it's so easy for that dude.
Speaker 7: It seemed like he do the same little shit every
Speaker 7: time and it come out the same dope bass wet.
Speaker 7: In fact, I just left LA. I had to go
Speaker 7: out there and get the release signed by my big
Speaker 7: brother for his documentary. Took me a couple of days,
Speaker 7: but I got it.
Speaker 6: And we was able.
Speaker 7: Was he was twisting up some stuff for Snoopy's record
Speaker 7: that comes out next month. I think it's I think
Speaker 7: it's on the thirteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dog was telling us about that process.
Speaker 6: Raising his bag right now.
Speaker 1: He loved Snoop. Let us hear some of that shit,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait till it hit the streets.
Speaker 7: Is in his bag, Snoop sound great. Those guys are happy,
Speaker 7: they're in a good space. He showed me a ten
Speaker 7: minute piece of content with the songs in it, in
Speaker 7: and out of the video, and it was really interesting.
Speaker 6: I don't want to. You know, Drake get it.
Speaker 7: He feel the kind of way if you talk about it.
Speaker 7: So I don't want to get too much. But what
Speaker 7: twenty five is gonna be for for that time in
Speaker 7: West Coast music, twenty five is gonna be a good year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring it back.
Speaker 4: We go hear some DC in twenty five years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. Talk about the
Speaker 3: first time you cross paths with these people.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some names.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Sure came around in the early n W eight
Speaker 7: times when I first got there and started producing.
Speaker 6: I imagine those guys already knew this guy.
Speaker 7: There was a musician that was in our clique name
Speaker 7: La dra Him and Sure called themselves brothers, and Sure
Speaker 7: was like a brother to me. Take me to the clubs,
Speaker 7: I mean used to be a club in Hollywood on
Speaker 7: Santa Monica Paradix twenty four and I'm nineteen years old.
Speaker 6: I'm not supposed to be in there, but I'm mature.
Speaker 7: They let me in. You might see Prince over there
Speaker 7: and ed him up over there, and so I shd
Speaker 7: I went from well that was projects to that more
Speaker 7: man passed the liquor you know, and Sugar. Sugar's very
Speaker 7: you know, he was in my ear. Wouldn't be none
Speaker 7: of this wouldn't be happening without you. You did a
Speaker 7: lot of a lot and it's probably just you know,
Speaker 7: blowing me up. And but we developed a real cool relationship. Man,
Speaker 7: and Sugar didn't.
Speaker 6: Do it all right.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: In fact, he did a lot of shit that was
Speaker 7: not cool, but nothing ever happened to me. Yeah, and
Speaker 7: he's probably a big reason why, you know, I could
Speaker 7: walk around anywhere out there and nobody fuck with me.
Speaker 6: Tupac was a good dude, good younger guy.
Speaker 7: We was both alphas, and during that time, he thought
Speaker 7: he was the one.
Speaker 6: I thought I was the one.
Speaker 7: So you know how that worked. When we get in
Speaker 7: everybody gonna talk some ship. Now, when that record that
Speaker 7: you were just playing came out, he wasn't doing no
Speaker 7: talking to me.
Speaker 8: Then when I had that accident, he had jokes all
Speaker 8: motherfucking day, and I didn't like that, you know, But
Speaker 8: him and Breeds.
Speaker 7: God Rest, they was, you know, they was real close.
Speaker 7: And so between me and Breed and scar Face and
Speaker 7: pim C and Too Short, we spent a lot of
Speaker 7: time together in Atlanta in the late nineties, and Pop
Speaker 7: was a rider breed, and so I developed a lot
Speaker 7: of respect for him because he gave so much to
Speaker 7: my God. But Parkers are supremely talented individual. I think,
Speaker 7: even more talented of an actor than he was as
Speaker 7: a rapper, and he probably would have did so much
Speaker 7: not just for the culture, but like a lot of
Speaker 7: the things that I'd like to do for these young
Speaker 7: men is really just picking up what park left. Talk
Speaker 7: like somebody to God to go talk to these boys
Speaker 7: and make these boys understand that ain't the way to go.
Speaker 6: If you go this way, I can show you it ain't.
Speaker 6: If it's about getting this.
Speaker 7: Paper, I can show you how to get the paper,
Speaker 7: and show you how to keep it, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, and show you how to build with it
Speaker 7: instead of using it to build yourself up in them
Speaker 7: six or seven niggas in your circle and damn everybody
Speaker 7: else in the community. So you can follow off and
Speaker 7: give it right back to the man that gave it
Speaker 7: to you, instead of he using that money to build
Speaker 7: a bit bigger and better, brighter future for all of us.
Speaker 7: Because you're making the money, you got the power, you
Speaker 7: got the guns, and I'm not here to tell you
Speaker 7: how to get it. I'm telling you, I'm ready to
Speaker 7: tell you how to keep it, keep.
Speaker 1: It, and stay alive with it.
Speaker 3: You said sugar was a big reason that nobody fucked
Speaker 3: with you when you was in LA when you first
Speaker 3: got it from Dallas, where you instantly accepted because I
Speaker 3: know you, probably they probably looking at like, who is
Speaker 3: this nigga come from Texas out here trying to Yeah.
Speaker 7: Man, Another reason I took to the alcohol so tough
Speaker 7: is because I'm not like, I'm not a third guy, right,
Speaker 7: it's not my moo. But I'm a big enough man
Speaker 7: that you don't know, you know what I mean, whether
Speaker 7: if I walk up on this niggas, he gonna not
Speaker 7: really fun out. So a lot of motherfuckers left me alone.
Speaker 7: But that all make you bark loud dark Ain't nobody
Speaker 7: went for you?
Speaker 6: So that was really me. It didn't matter who you are.
Speaker 7: I'm talking shit to everybody, but I stayed within that
Speaker 7: small circle.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: We wake up at ten o'clock in the morning, go
Speaker 7: to the studio, and we end up this to ten
Speaker 7: o'clock at night.
Speaker 2: Speak to the competitive nature. Obviously us as athletes, it
Speaker 2: never left us speak to the competitive nature amongst you
Speaker 2: guys were Cube and everybody in there righting and rapping,
Speaker 2: and how competitive it was at that time in good spirit,
Speaker 2: but it got real. Speak to that competitive It is real,
Speaker 2: is it? Rapping is a gladiator sport. You know, look
Speaker 2: at Kenji get in the guy Drake. These guys are
Speaker 2: fighting for blood now. But back in those days, between QE.
Speaker 2: Wren and myself, not so much Wren. I think Ren
Speaker 2: is just like a team guy. You don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck for me and Cute we was better. Yeah, ain't
Speaker 2: no question about it.
Speaker 7: I was trying to tell that ass up every che
Speaker 7: and I think he was too, because he'd come here
Speaker 7: to spitish shit and I'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: take my sit.
Speaker 4: Down, be right, this ship change.
Speaker 6: He's Cube was so strong.
Speaker 7: It's always that first line. If that first line is
Speaker 7: off the wall, then you know, yeah, and for it
Speaker 7: straight out of comforty fuck the police. God damn, I'm
Speaker 7: glad y'all said it out like that first line of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a crazy first line.
Speaker 7: But back in them days, man, it was love because
Speaker 7: we knew we had something special. When we was trying
Speaker 7: to be bring out the best.
Speaker 6: Of each other.
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever think at that time, because obviously
Speaker 2: coming from nothing, all you guys come from nothing that
Speaker 2: the sound you made with resident. Were you thinking about
Speaker 2: legacy or history at the time or just thinking about
Speaker 2: being great in that moment?
Speaker 7: Yeah, just that moment we knew, we knew it was
Speaker 7: the ship. We didn't know it was to the extent
Speaker 7: of what it was gonna be. And when I was
Speaker 7: making workers with NWA, I wasn't even tripping off the
Speaker 7: n w A shit. If I'm being honest, I'm you know,
Speaker 7: I'm on the bench. I'm waiting for my let me shit,
Speaker 7: but it's my turn watching let me let me show
Speaker 7: you boys how to do this. Back in those early days,
Speaker 7: you know, we was all in the studio together, but
Speaker 7: when it came time for the shit to come out,
Speaker 7: I had to I had to stand where they standing,
Speaker 7: you know, and the other.
Speaker 6: Guys would be out here.
Speaker 1: They are they bothered me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to be right.
Speaker 7: And so that just gave me a really competitive drive. Okay,
Speaker 7: that's like y'all want to do it.
Speaker 2: But speak to what that groan, because I don't think
Speaker 2: people understand you had to really pay your dues.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: You put a lot of penwork in and a lot
Speaker 2: of instrumentaling other people shit to finally get your opportunity to,
Speaker 2: you know, to do your thing. But take that back
Speaker 2: to did I want to ask him after that? But
Speaker 2: when're coming from Dallas, right, you told that.
Speaker 7: Those guys had already started the boat, and uh, you
Speaker 7: know I was coming in last, so you gotta you
Speaker 7: gotta pay your dues. But like I said, I was
Speaker 7: coming in from Texas, and when I got that all
Speaker 7: in me, I didn't mind telling them niggas every day
Speaker 7: who was the one that I made it? Now we
Speaker 7: can do it.
Speaker 6: I'm here, let's get it.
Speaker 1: Yes, But it was all.
Speaker 7: Love and and and those boys are you know, they'll
Speaker 7: they'll be family. We got a legacy together, absolutely, and
Speaker 7: I'm just thankful for it.
Speaker 4: What do you think the first thing to come to
Speaker 4: mind when you see that picture right there?
Speaker 1: Who the two dudes in the back next to Drey
Speaker 1: lay Load.
Speaker 6: And me.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but I think that might be the
Speaker 7: nice somebody stole my necklace.
Speaker 6: I look at my face, I'm mad.
Speaker 4: The mother funny, you ain't got no change on? Huh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think somebody snatched my shit off. I had
Speaker 7: to learn about even less.
Speaker 1: You's you in the back? Yeah, I don't look like you.
Speaker 7: Don't look like him, bro, that's why you said the
Speaker 7: wisdom dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't even look like you back the look
Speaker 3: like mad like the skined dude, mad.
Speaker 7: In laylong restom piece and my guys easy resting peace
Speaker 7: and a cue Nice m c RN DJ Yeller and
Speaker 7: and the Uncomfortable Doctor dre the Quincy Jones in my generation,
Speaker 7: Ma ro Pi Quincy question, do you.
Speaker 4: Ever think about curling your ship up?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: That wasn't your thing. Huh No, you.
Speaker 1: Ain't grow your ship. You ain't never grew your house. No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we in Texas, you know the shag Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, my.
Speaker 7: Sick would never grow that one.
Speaker 4: Bring us in.
Speaker 2: Started studio session with Dray Quick yourself, Q dads Like,
Speaker 2: what was that?
Speaker 4: What was that like?
Speaker 6: Fun?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: What what is it like?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 7: Going to practice on the great.
Speaker 3: Team and all you gotta do is play your role?
Speaker 7: Come on, man, yo, that's it. It's fun and a motherfucker.
Speaker 7: You ain't got to do nothing but what you do
Speaker 7: and if you do it, well, y'all gonna win. And
Speaker 7: my lines day role off facts.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: So I seen you somewhere, you just talking about when
Speaker 7: they arrived.
Speaker 1: You're the m v P trophy McDonald's game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw you.
Speaker 7: I empathized with that because the system is a motherfucker
Speaker 7: play the game, you know. But but you did that.
Speaker 7: They can't take that. Yeah, they can't take it from it.
Speaker 7: Yeah take yeah, And Kobe said it. Kobe thought I
Speaker 7: got MVP.
Speaker 3: So I really feel like I got it now, Kobe said,
Speaker 3: talk about Das though, Like das dad is somebody who
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of, and you know he had
Speaker 3: a big influence on Tupac as well.
Speaker 1: With this, MutS can't talk about Das how talented Dash is.
Speaker 7: Dans is a real one, easy shut snoopy dazz. THESEUS
Speaker 7: guys made from that culture and they represented one thousand percent.
Speaker 7: That is just a good dude and a fantastic producer.
Speaker 7: When I first met the dog, uh, he moved into
Speaker 7: my house with me out in Calabasas, and things started
Speaker 7: falling apart for me and I started losing my stuff.
Speaker 6: Your car and all the all the ship that you.
Speaker 7: I started throwing gold records away, you know, because I
Speaker 7: was just depressed and destroyed, and I threw records away
Speaker 7: and he would go get him out the trash and
Speaker 7: he kept the motherfuckers. He still got him to this day.
Speaker 7: That's just because that's my guy. You know, anything I need,
Speaker 7: I can call him and ask for him and snooping,
Speaker 7: that whole dog Pound thing, that whole Long Beach thing.
Speaker 7: Those guys really took me in and for me when
Speaker 7: when I couldn't care for myself. What's that's what's up?
Speaker 7: Shout out dad? Corrupt?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Man, those are my guys, and that doesn't corrupt. Out
Speaker 7: Bound for life.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna list some things off and then I want
Speaker 2: to ask you something particular. Obviously your early writing Easy's
Speaker 2: versus straight out of Compton and Fuck the Police co
Speaker 2: wrote easiest parts of Gangster Gangster with mc wren roll
Speaker 2: one of the classic n w A albums, obviously straight
Speaker 2: out of Compton, Easiest Pardon We Want Easy. When you're
Speaker 2: pinning for different people, how do you embody them in
Speaker 2: kind of their spirit to still make it them through
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 6: Then I'm a writer. That that's what I do.
Speaker 7: And I'm not writing for them, I'm writing for me
Speaker 7: through them. I mean, because the ship gotta be dope.
Speaker 7: My job is to make them sound the best that
Speaker 7: they could sound. Being them may not be the ship
Speaker 7: that I would say, may not be the subject matter,
Speaker 7: but if you sit around them and pay attention to
Speaker 7: them long enough, you just take their mannerisms and the
Speaker 7: colloquialisms that they use, the little phrases and words.
Speaker 6: And try to make it your own, you know.
Speaker 7: And I took a lot of pride in being able
Speaker 7: to being able to give to those guys. I took
Speaker 7: a lot of pride in and being able to help
Speaker 7: Snoop find his voice, you know.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 7: And Snoop was a willing student, you know. He like
Speaker 7: Snoopy really allowed me to live when I didn't have
Speaker 7: no reason to live, because rap was really all I had.
Speaker 7: You know. When you took that shit, you took a lot,
Speaker 7: you know, but I was allowed to live through dog.
Speaker 7: And he came in and just tow shit up, So
Speaker 7: his victory felt like my victory.
Speaker 2: He spoke to how instrumental you were and helping him
Speaker 2: be a craft his shit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: He was a big freestyler and you he was very
Speaker 2: you know, vocal on giving you a credit on you
Speaker 2: helped them song craft, and can you explain that?
Speaker 4: You know what that meant?
Speaker 6: I seen that he.
Speaker 7: Get on here and he started trying to talk like me.
Speaker 6: John said, God, but that was true. It's true.
Speaker 7: He'd say he wrapped his whole long ass rap, and
Speaker 7: I'd be like, this shit is dope right here. He
Speaker 7: ain't lose me right here, but see down here, and
Speaker 7: shit is dope. Let's just let's put that out. Let's
Speaker 7: get this folk. Put that motherfucker right there. Now, wrap
Speaker 7: them eight line you see how Now we're gonna do
Speaker 7: this all the way. And he just wrap up, you know,
Speaker 7: a thousand bars and we just pick out sixteen.
Speaker 1: So he didn't know how to write sixteen.
Speaker 6: I think he just rapped.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just a lot of people still don't know how
Speaker 1: account balls. There's a lot of rabbits that don't know
Speaker 1: what account balls.
Speaker 6: Snoop, you just turn that motherfucker home and go and
Speaker 6: he'll go.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty nine time it's your time to shine. No
Speaker 2: one could do it better. Number hip hop album in
Speaker 2: the country, certified gold within three weeks. You know, everyone
Speaker 2: had their little piece on it, but it was finally
Speaker 2: your time. What did that mean to you, what did
Speaker 2: that feel like?
Speaker 7: I was some motherfucking cocky at that time in my life.
Speaker 7: I probably was not the best human. I was probably
Speaker 7: talking shit to every single body.
Speaker 6: And then Geod said, okay, back.
Speaker 7: But my thought process, even while bec I'm a spiritual guy,
Speaker 7: you know, it's a God thing with me, always as being.
Speaker 7: Even the album of cover, no one could do. A
Speaker 7: better album of cover is in front of a statue
Speaker 7: of Jesus says King of King's Lord, Lord on the deal.
Speaker 7: Now in my mind's eye, and I saw that statue
Speaker 7: going from easy would take this treat going to the
Speaker 7: bank every imagine that going to the bank every time
Speaker 7: we went to Hollywood. I seen that that statue. So
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take my album come in front of that
Speaker 7: because it just struck me and my mind's eye. This
Speaker 7: is gonna be the start of my testimony, you know,
Speaker 7: making people understand who's responsible, because my whole journey started
Speaker 7: with a prayer here in Dallas, when my mother said
Speaker 7: you're going to.
Speaker 6: The army and I prayed. Man, I got sat down.
Speaker 7: Next to the couch at my sister's house I was
Speaker 7: living there at the time, and I prayed. I said God,
Speaker 7: this is what I want to do, like I'm good
Speaker 7: at this.
Speaker 6: If you let me do this, I.
Speaker 7: Promise you when I get there, I'm gonna tell everybody
Speaker 7: it was you, it wasn't me. And eighteen months later
Speaker 7: I sold three million records. My and Mine is gonna
Speaker 7: come out. Took the picture in front of that statue,
Speaker 7: thinking that was gonna be the beginning of my testimony.
Speaker 7: But then you starts, the kids starts wearing King of
Speaker 7: King's Lord on the rings and the necklaces. So I
Speaker 7: guess my thought was pretty soon I started to think, shit,
Speaker 7: well maybe I am, you know, And he got too
Speaker 7: high up on that horse, and JO deal will bring
Speaker 7: your ass back down the where you need to be.
Speaker 2: One of our crew mentioned that, you know, you're noticed
Speaker 2: that you never really excuse me cuss too much? Yeah right,
Speaker 2: cuss too much during your speak to the thinking behind that.
Speaker 7: At my core, I'm a East Coast MC in the
Speaker 7: tradition of those guys I mentioned to you earlier. Uh,
Speaker 7: and they didn't cuss like that, They didn't speak negative.
Speaker 7: All the shit that nw A did was not a
Speaker 7: part of hip hop in the area where I grew up,
Speaker 7: trying to become that, and so I didn't do that.
Speaker 7: I wanted to be the best at that. Yeah man,
Speaker 7: just lyrics. But that ended up being helpful to me
Speaker 7: spending time with the NWA guys, because the music still
Speaker 7: sounded rough and rugged. It's just the word plays different.
Speaker 3: A few months after your album, you hit the album,
Speaker 3: you get into the accident.
Speaker 1: Can you walk us through that night?
Speaker 7: That's a couple couple of days over a weekend, Saturday
Speaker 7: and Sunday. Direct happens November the eleven, three thirty three am.
Speaker 7: It was just the anniversary, Yeah, thirty fifth anniversary. Just
Speaker 7: the other day I had been shooting UH videos over
Speaker 7: two videos of was that weekend, a video for a
Speaker 7: song called Beautiful but Deadly and a video to a
Speaker 7: song called a Formula.
Speaker 6: And because it was so much.
Speaker 7: Work, I was falling asleep a lot, and somebody was
Speaker 7: around that offered me something that would help me stay
Speaker 7: stay away, probably a very old story, and I accepted
Speaker 7: that and and twenty four hours later that accident happened.
Speaker 7: Twenty four hours later. Twenty four hours later, I UH,
Speaker 7: I took the stuff. I went home, which was Drey's
Speaker 7: house at the time, and Dre said Maig you need
Speaker 7: to take your ass to sleep. I said, okay, and
Speaker 7: then he went to the store. But about my inside
Speaker 7: was just racing. I couldn't go to sleep. So when
Speaker 7: he left, I left. And now I'm in La in
Speaker 7: the streets all day, drinking and smoking and doing what
Speaker 7: those boys do. And by the time I finally said, oh,
Speaker 7: I want to go home and go to sleep, was
Speaker 7: two o'clock. Almost two o'clock the next day. I still
Speaker 7: haven't been to sleep, so I'm on my way home.
Speaker 6: Just didn't make it. But I gotta say this canful.
Speaker 7: Everything in my life is purposeful, including that accident.
Speaker 6: Now, I had to go through a.
Speaker 7: Lot of bottles, a lot of drugs and depression and
Speaker 7: to find my way back to who I am today.
Speaker 7: But it was twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: I had been.
Speaker 7: Cleaning sober for about eight years. God came to me,
Speaker 7: and I worked my way back up to a you know,
Speaker 7: a decent living. I could provide for my boys, and
Speaker 7: anything a good man would want to do I was doing.
Speaker 7: I didn't have what my contemporaries had. I didn't have
Speaker 7: certainly what Dray and Snooped them had, but I had
Speaker 7: peace of mind, you know, and Jo d came and
Speaker 7: he he.
Speaker 6: Said, uh, you could let go of that pain. Huge.
Speaker 7: He said that you didn't do that. I did that.
Speaker 7: You weren't responsible for that. I was, And uh, I
Speaker 7: did it for a purpose and you were about to
Speaker 7: walk in that purpose. It was a couple months after
Speaker 7: that I decided to do the documentary, you know, and
Speaker 7: everything since then, it's been on the show inclined, and
Speaker 7: I think, uh, you know, like I said, twenty twenty
Speaker 7: five is gonna be the year I stepped back out
Speaker 7: there on that ass.
Speaker 6: And by that, by the time, by the.
Speaker 7: Time the world show up in DFW in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be back.
Speaker 6: On my thronte.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because you know the g Cup is coming here
Speaker 7: in twenty six, so I'm.
Speaker 6: Gona have my little little jingle bag ready. You can
Speaker 6: get that dollar from.
Speaker 7: Everybody to get off the plug, understand me. That's good business.
Speaker 2: Would you say, in the way that accident saved your
Speaker 2: life in the long run?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know. I was.
Speaker 7: I was on the one way ticket to the shit
Speaker 7: to some goddamn well wherever I was going. I didn't know,
Speaker 7: like I said, I was out of my head. You know,
Speaker 7: I thought I was the greatest rapper of all time.
Speaker 7: Can't tell me nothing. I got uh six foot three,
Speaker 7: three hundred and twenty pounds bodyguard basically with me. That said,
Speaker 7: if I come in the club and slap you upside
Speaker 7: the head, I can just do that and move out
Speaker 7: the way, you know, And I did that.
Speaker 6: It was bad for a while through, but Jod got a.
Speaker 7: Way of putting you in your your space and in
Speaker 7: your place. And like I said, all that stuff was
Speaker 7: purposeful so that I could understand and give back to
Speaker 7: these babies that's out there now. They think that's the way.
Speaker 7: It's not the way. Man.
Speaker 3: If somebody said before your accident, the DC, if he
Speaker 3: didn't have an accident, he would be he would have
Speaker 3: been the best rapper, love best rapper. Ever, how do
Speaker 3: you how do you feel when you hear those words?
Speaker 7: Well, I think they're right right, you know. And and
Speaker 7: little don't count me out cause I I still vote
Speaker 7: for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like, uh, in order for they had verses, in order
Speaker 7: for you to do a versus against me, you would
Speaker 7: have had to have made one record and then get
Speaker 7: your voice taken away from you and then come back
Speaker 7: thirty five years later and make another one, and you
Speaker 7: can now you can go ahead up with me. M
Speaker 7: Other than that, you're fighting amongst yourselves.
Speaker 6: I'm you know.
Speaker 7: I don't wanna say I'm above that, as if I'm
Speaker 7: better than anybody.
Speaker 6: But I I no longer. I'm no longer in competition
Speaker 6: with you.
Speaker 5: Boy.
Speaker 1: I support all of you.
Speaker 7: Yes, believe yourself.
Speaker 6: Of course.
Speaker 7: I believe in God, and God believe in me. Yeah,
Speaker 7: Otherwise I'd have been.
Speaker 1: Gone when your voice went away? Did your pen pick
Speaker 1: up or get more potent?
Speaker 7: My pen always been my pen. It ain't never lost nothing.
Speaker 7: It's still him today. Yes, because Cubs say in this song,
Speaker 7: it's my ego. It's a new record he got out.
Speaker 7: He said, I was Kendred before Kendrick. Now you talking
Speaker 7: about the subject matter, but them cadences, I was Kendrick,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. And when Kendrick put out,
Speaker 7: they're not like us. Man. It took me two days
Speaker 7: to write some shit behind that energy that he made
Speaker 7: me feel.
Speaker 6: Uh, And I can't wait to record this.
Speaker 7: Year and now the Dred is gonna get it out.
Speaker 4: I wanna, I want, I want.
Speaker 2: To back cut a little bit though, because take me
Speaker 2: through how mentally tough it was for you to drop
Speaker 2: something that, god damn it that is number one in
Speaker 2: the country, number one album in the country, and then
Speaker 2: taking your voice away, and as you see, your brothers
Speaker 2: continue to do their things. So I also read one
Speaker 2: time that you know, obviously their wins were your wins,
Speaker 2: but how hard mentally was it that you couldn't do it?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 6: I don't think that. Imagine was it?
Speaker 7: Was it the second year Mike.
Speaker 4: To Is brokes ankle at.
Speaker 6: The second year.
Speaker 7: Imagine Michael Jordan toward his knee up and couldn't play
Speaker 7: no more? How do you think he would?
Speaker 1: Might not be here?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? Right, So that's where that's
Speaker 7: where I was at. I was in a space where
Speaker 7: I didn't know what the fuck to do and the
Speaker 7: only thing I had was given giving it to to
Speaker 7: those guys. That that that kept me a lot, you know.
Speaker 7: Snoop says it in the documentary, you know, and he
Speaker 7: was right on point with that. You know that being
Speaker 7: big brother to Rage and rb X and Doggie and
Speaker 7: Dazz and Corrupt and and even Geeta.
Speaker 6: Uh, that shit kept me a.
Speaker 1: Lot, did you play a role in Dre going solo
Speaker 1: and leaving wa.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, none of that shit happens if I wasn't there.
Speaker 7: Number one, Dre never thought about it making music. I
Speaker 7: had to talk him into it. I had to fight
Speaker 7: with him for months to even make the chronic. He
Speaker 7: didn't want to do it. He didn't see hisself as
Speaker 7: a as a solo artist. I mean, but my shit
Speaker 7: was fucked up, so you all we got and so
Speaker 7: come on. With respect to leaving Ruthless, I had found
Speaker 7: out I'd gotten paperwork from from Ruthless and saw how
Speaker 7: they had been taking advantage of me, and and I
Speaker 7: told Dre, if they doing me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: if they did a cue, ain't doing me no vacillation,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? And so Dre looked into it,
Speaker 7: and to his credit, he went back to Eric and
Speaker 7: he tried to make it right. But but Eric was
Speaker 7: was sold on on Jerry Heller. He didn't want to
Speaker 7: get rid of Jerry Heller. Dre wanted to go forward together,
Speaker 7: reworked their stuff and you know, continue to make records.
Speaker 7: But but Easy didn't want to not move forward with
Speaker 7: out Jerry Heller. So that precipitated that split, and sure
Speaker 7: that I had already been working together with a guy
Speaker 7: named Bick Griffy trying to build something. So so Dre
Speaker 7: just slid in and uh Griffy went and got us
Speaker 7: a publishing deal, and we use that money to start
Speaker 7: building the chronic work.
Speaker 3: Take us aside that that process. So you wrote nothing
Speaker 3: but a g Thing.
Speaker 6: So I helped Snoop write nothing but a g thing.
Speaker 7: Little ghetto Boy, Little ghetto Boy, lyrical gang bang, local
Speaker 7: gang band, just ain't shit bit, just ain't shit with
Speaker 7: a motherfucking gun with the motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that. That's one of the ones right there.
Speaker 6: That the day the niggas took over.
Speaker 3: Little Ghetto Boy twenty dout Sack Pyramid twenty outside Pyramid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm in the money, get my wied, So I go
Speaker 3: to the motherfucker slap me.
Speaker 6: I remember.
Speaker 7: Now, we was probably all the high hell, you know,
Speaker 7: but I just remember how fun right that shit was.
Speaker 6: It was so fun.
Speaker 7: You get so caught up in that moment that and
Speaker 7: it probably translates onto the tape because we was having
Speaker 7: so much motherfucking fun. I was really in that moment, nigga.
Speaker 7: I won, We won lee you know, yeah, bro, it
Speaker 7: was just you know, it was a time you can
Speaker 7: never forget. I'm so grateful and thank for the G
Speaker 7: O D. For allowing me to be me. And even
Speaker 7: with the path that I've had to walk, I wouldn't
Speaker 7: I wouldn't want to be none of them niggas. I
Speaker 7: want to be doctor because that nigga is the coldest.
Speaker 1: Hey doctor.
Speaker 3: This is the personal question for me because this probably
Speaker 3: this is probably one of my top three songs of
Speaker 3: all time.
Speaker 1: How did y'all feel? I mean, what vibe were y'all were?
Speaker 1: Y'all made? Look YETO boy, we.
Speaker 7: Made that song that's as a you remember the riots
Speaker 7: that we did that song. We were doing that song
Speaker 7: during the riot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had to be some pain or something going
Speaker 1: on for that song.
Speaker 7: To be went out and looted during the riot. Now,
Speaker 7: I told y'a I'm not a third. I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm not going nowhere. Snoop was like, nigger, get your
Speaker 7: ass in this car, and so I went through. And
Speaker 7: it's the one day I was in California where none
Speaker 7: of that game shit matter, didn't matter where you was at,
Speaker 7: didn't matter what you had on you know, and and
Speaker 7: that one day was probably the most beautiful motherfucking day
Speaker 7: I've ever had in California.
Speaker 1: They'll get a boy come out. That's crazy. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's one of the ones. Yeah, that's one of the ones.
Speaker 1: No question.
Speaker 3: Is it true that you did get did get paid,
Speaker 3: didn't get paid for your death a writing?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm going through it's all sudden to come back. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm going.
Speaker 7: To because I probably spent it all by now. It
Speaker 7: was some bullshit, wine, weed and women. But now I
Speaker 7: got two sons that mean more to me than any
Speaker 7: motherfucking record could ever mean. And and uh being a
Speaker 7: great dad, it just means everything to me, Like those
Speaker 7: are things that I missed as as a child, and
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna be that father for them.
Speaker 2: You've spoken a lot, and both of y'all were speaking
Speaker 2: off camera before this about obviously God's timing. He wasn't
Speaker 2: ready for all that shit at that time. Right now
Speaker 2: that it's come back and you've grown and and and
Speaker 2: put prioritize your life and cleaned your life up, now
Speaker 2: it's all coming back.
Speaker 4: You're a firm believer on that.
Speaker 7: I've always been a spiritual person. I know God, and
Speaker 7: when he spoke to me, I know, you know, I
Speaker 7: know that I'm here for a purpose. I don't fear
Speaker 7: these niggas. I don't fear failure because it's not even
Speaker 7: me doing it. Right, this conversation that you're having, you
Speaker 7: think you're having it with me, You're not, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean. And so even my city for work,
Speaker 7: we as a city have never gotten an hour. We
Speaker 7: never had our hour, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 7: so good made me that guy, and so that time
Speaker 7: is coming. I turned to twenty twenty six. Man, it's
Speaker 7: coming to Dallas is one app and I'm going to
Speaker 7: leave this city, you know, and put everything I got
Speaker 7: into doing for this city and these young men that
Speaker 7: I did for those guys out on the West coast.
Speaker 7: And speaking of various a school that I am busting
Speaker 7: my ass to build called the Dreams Experience Academy, Right,
Speaker 7: I want to give these kids an opportunity to dream
Speaker 7: the biggest dream you can dream. Let me help you
Speaker 7: find that experience, and let me help you find a
Speaker 7: lane to that as an occupation if that's what you choose,
Speaker 7: or steam accredited courses so that coming from your homeschool
Speaker 7: to this academy. You get these credits to go to
Speaker 7: college if that's what you choose to do. But I'm
Speaker 7: gonna get I'm gonna show you where the money at.
Speaker 7: But to come to this thing, the first thing you
Speaker 7: got to do is be at school. And the second
Speaker 7: thing you have to do is exist in this circle
Speaker 7: about three rules. That's no guns, no violence, no threats
Speaker 7: of violence, because we building tomorrow today.
Speaker 6: We're not waiting on nobody to.
Speaker 7: Come give us our shit no more, because only we
Speaker 7: know now. We're gonna build from the mud up, not
Speaker 7: waiting from the top down. Because with all due respect
Speaker 7: to the goat, you can't we can't wait for the
Speaker 7: lebrons to feed those of us at the bottom. We
Speaker 7: gotta start they're feeding ourselves and allow these guys to
Speaker 7: catch up and put in on it. That means you
Speaker 7: boys that's out there making that money, we got to
Speaker 7: figure out a different way for you to deal with it.
Speaker 7: The first thing we gotta do is quit all this killing.
Speaker 7: I want you to get your weaponry because you might
Speaker 7: need it, you know, but you're using it on the
Speaker 7: wrong people source, you know. So it's just about us
Speaker 7: getting hours shit together as a community and in valuing
Speaker 7: our community the same way as others values veils and
Speaker 7: start the process at home. And I'm a fun believer
Speaker 7: that GLD put me into space to to talk to talk,
Speaker 7: you know, because I still a nigga with attitude, if
Speaker 7: you will, But my attitude changed a little bit.
Speaker 3: I respect that so much because I can, I can
Speaker 3: put a lot of that in my own life. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I was doing MYNVACA. I did
Speaker 3: a lot of things I wasn't supposed to do. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I should have been a better
Speaker 3: basketball player. I should have made a lot of small
Speaker 3: decisions and I paid for it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But where I'm at.
Speaker 3: Now, even with the George Floyd stuff, all the stuff
Speaker 3: that's happening with our company, I never expected to be here,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But my heart was right
Speaker 3: the whole time. When I was making mistakes. I did
Speaker 3: right by people.
Speaker 1: You know. I was loyal to a fall a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of times. And it's starting to come back.
Speaker 3: Everything I lost, it's starting to come back to me
Speaker 3: because I never felt like when it was bad, I
Speaker 3: had to Okay.
Speaker 1: I gotta do something to get out. I just sat
Speaker 1: That's right. I just sat there and let God figure
Speaker 1: it out for me.
Speaker 3: So so I respect that so much because I've been
Speaker 3: through that in my own life, So I respect that.
Speaker 6: Patience, bro, Patience is the key.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure it's a lot of young boys out
Speaker 7: there with that same mentality you got, but they stuck
Speaker 7: in that in the train.
Speaker 6: That's moving already.
Speaker 7: Nobody's giving them an opportunity to get off. You can't
Speaker 7: just say stop and don't make no money. You got
Speaker 7: to show them where the money at. Like everybody else,
Speaker 7: they want to get paid. They want to be heard.
Speaker 7: They want to be acknowledged.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: They think that when they get out there and do
Speaker 7: what they do to get that paper, then that's their
Speaker 7: way of being heard. That's to be satisfying themselves.
Speaker 6: But I can show you.
Speaker 7: A better way, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 7: not telling I stopped and don't make it.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about come over here.
Speaker 7: Let me let me put you in the game getting it.
Speaker 7: You know, not everybody's gonna take that bait, but I'm
Speaker 7: gonna get a whole lot more, probably than I lose.
Speaker 4: Your role in Doggie Style and seeing that album take off.
Speaker 7: Yeah, by the time we got the Doggy Style, I
Speaker 7: was you know, I was just watching and being moral support.
Speaker 7: We had already went through all our lessons and so
Speaker 7: he was out of there. You know, I reserved a
Speaker 7: right to say I don't like that, you know, and
Speaker 7: maybe you'll change it, maybe you won't, you know, but.
Speaker 6: It was his time, and.
Speaker 7: That was my guy.
Speaker 6: I was so proud of him that man.
Speaker 7: I was just happy to be standing next to him
Speaker 7: when they did the up and smoke to her. They
Speaker 7: rode out in the low rider. I got to ride
Speaker 7: in the back seat.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: Now, when g thing came out, I was in the
Speaker 7: front seat. They moved me to the back seat, but
Speaker 7: I was in the car and so up. Man, I
Speaker 7: was just proud of my guys, brou and still and
Speaker 7: still am.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: I love those guys. I worked for them same way
Speaker 7: they work from me. I have no expectations from from
Speaker 7: anybody for anything. I've had to listen to folks talk
Speaker 7: negatively about my guys because they think they got I'm
Speaker 7: supposed to have. But that's not I'm not any of
Speaker 7: those guys. Son, you know, my path is my path
Speaker 7: and jo he got me walking my way for a purpose.
Speaker 7: And so even if even if those wanted wanted to
Speaker 7: do something. And when you watch this movie, you'll see,
Speaker 7: like the one thing that you take away from this
Speaker 7: famousy the niggas love that dude, like they love this dude,
Speaker 7: all of them, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 7: it's parts in the movie where Erica and I are
Speaker 7: going back and forth and that shit have made. It'll
Speaker 7: bring tears to y'alls. Man, the way you can tell
Speaker 7: she loved that nigga man, you know, and he love
Speaker 7: her because they got this beautiful little baby girl together.
Speaker 7: And that's what it's all about. In fact, Erica and
Speaker 7: I love about a bond is so strong. When I
Speaker 7: was having my new kids, Erica was the doudler.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 7: She delivered my son. She was the first, uh, the diggy,
Speaker 7: the youngest one that talks so much ship and it's
Speaker 7: probably because she was the first one to touch you.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Oh that's dope, man, that's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 3: Drama we had with that, oh man.
Speaker 7: And I was talking to Puma, Puma and her mother
Speaker 7: or in Brazil, right now, Erica is doing something and
Speaker 7: Puma called me and she said, my mom, and I
Speaker 7: was just talking about you, talking about what a greater
Speaker 7: example of a man you are. And see, boy, don't
Speaker 7: get no better than that.
Speaker 1: Don't get.
Speaker 7: Damn all that material ship right here is word counter
Speaker 7: most And when I'm not here anymore, they don't know that.
Speaker 2: Obviously, very big on God, and you've spoken to him
Speaker 2: throughout this interview. God put Erica in your in your
Speaker 2: life at the right time. Explain when that time was
Speaker 2: and how instrumental she was on helping you kind of
Speaker 2: find that light again.
Speaker 7: It's two thousand around that time, and Uh I was
Speaker 7: trying to find my way, still doing all of that bullshit,
Speaker 7: but Uh I was trying. I had I had. Uh
Speaker 7: They asked me to speak at at at the deal
Speaker 7: called the UH Hip Hop Summit in LA and I
Speaker 7: went and spoke and Russell was like, wow, bro, you
Speaker 7: you know you did that. I was like, I'd love
Speaker 7: for you to bring this to Dallas. You know we
Speaker 7: need this too. He was like, well, if you raise
Speaker 7: the money, I'll come. I raised the money and he came.
Speaker 7: He brought Run and and uh Kamora and all these
Speaker 7: folks during that time, and he told Erica to come
Speaker 7: to the summit. I hadn't seen her since we was kids,
Speaker 7: you know. She was skinny as that.
Speaker 1: So you've been on her.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've been knowing each other since we were fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 7: She was a rapper two back in the early days,
Speaker 7: and we was. She had her and a girl named
Speaker 7: Killer TJ and me and the feeling first school and
Speaker 7: everybody at the skating ring and they wrapped clicks, you know.
Speaker 7: And she was just a skinny little always had some
Speaker 7: pretty odd though, but she was just a bean pole
Speaker 7: back then.
Speaker 6: But shit, by the time they ha Propa.
Speaker 7: Suddenly came shit filled all the way out and I
Speaker 7: was seeing her and I was like, damn you grown
Speaker 7: up man. We connected and we started hanging out, driving
Speaker 7: around the city, just reminiscing on those times as kids.
Speaker 7: We had both kind of made it after the hood
Speaker 7: and developed a bond and you know how things go.
Speaker 3: She from DW two, yeah, South Doublast, South Dayliss from
Speaker 3: South Dallas something from West Doublets and she.
Speaker 6: Did that thing.
Speaker 7: Put it on me, y'all.
Speaker 1: Never did any news together, no, no, never thought about it,
Speaker 1: never talked about it. Now.
Speaker 7: See I'm a smart man. I know where to go
Speaker 7: and where not to go. Erica is what she says.
Speaker 7: She's sensitive about her all ship.
Speaker 1: I'm sensitive about my ship.
Speaker 6: So leave her alone.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she asked, Man, it's all good.
Speaker 6: I love it, you know.
Speaker 7: And I started trying to push Puma, who was so talented,
Speaker 7: but hon no mother, you know they yeah, So I
Speaker 7: leave that alone. I wait till they come to ask
Speaker 7: if they ass I'm ready. But this documentary now one
Speaker 7: that wants a record, and so I'd like to put
Speaker 7: together a record like Dray did for the Company movie
Speaker 7: that's inspired by and didn't have everybody that was in
Speaker 7: the participation. So that would mean something from Puma and
Speaker 7: something from Erica. Maybe we could all do something together
Speaker 7: that'd beautiful. And for the fans out there, don't worry.
Speaker 7: I already asked him to put the ask in for us.
Speaker 7: Hopefully we get Eric on the show, miss please please?
Speaker 6: Yeah you got that.
Speaker 1: Were you there when Dre first heard of eminem?
Speaker 7: I wasn't there when he first heard it. Drey and I,
Speaker 7: you know, brothers, they they love hard, they wore hard.
Speaker 7: So when we get into it, we get into it,
Speaker 7: and so it was during one of our breaks that
Speaker 7: he found him. Uh, but he started working on two
Speaker 7: thousand and one record. He reached out to me and said, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, I need jail. And it had been you know,
Speaker 7: three four years, so I was I asked my bullshit,
Speaker 7: and you usually Drake calls I'm just gonna jump on
Speaker 7: the bird. And I went out there and he said,
Speaker 7: I want you to hear something. He played this a
Speaker 7: song called I Just Don't give a Fuck, and I
Speaker 7: was like, wow, this motherfucker's off the chain.
Speaker 6: He reminds me of that early.
Speaker 7: Music he was making because his subject matter is so
Speaker 7: throwed off. Jeff's like, yeah, I think he's dope. I said, hell, yeah,
Speaker 7: he's dope. You gotta fuck with this kid. He's like, look, well,
Speaker 7: let me show you a picture of it. And then
Speaker 7: he brought the picture in a little eight by ten
Speaker 7: and he looked more like a you know, an actor
Speaker 7: or some shit. To the rapper who was his white boy,
Speaker 7: you know, he's like, that's him. I was like, wow,
Speaker 7: that motherfucker's off the chain. I'm a purist in the
Speaker 7: form that I just like dope shit. I wouldn't give
Speaker 7: fuck who you are. I wouldn't give a fuck if
Speaker 7: you was red, black, green, purple, or orange, if you dope,
Speaker 7: and if you're not dope, I wouldn't give a if
Speaker 7: you was red rap, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 7: eminem is one of the great one of the greats
Speaker 7: in this music and and you can't take that away
Speaker 7: from it.
Speaker 4: What is How does it make you feel though that
Speaker 4: he really looked up to you a lot?
Speaker 7: Though well I was pretty good. You know I would
Speaker 7: have looked up to me too. I take it as
Speaker 7: a blessing, you know that that that God let me
Speaker 7: live long enough to understand I made the impact, even
Speaker 7: even to be you know, on uh on this platform
Speaker 7: with you guys today. Man ship means something to me.
Speaker 7: Like I said, it's a full super moment. It may
Speaker 7: not mean, it may not be a lot to others,
Speaker 7: but it means a lot to me. So when you
Speaker 7: call stack man, I was like what I once and
Speaker 7: got me a hair cut this morning. That's probably.
Speaker 6: That's why I look like zz top.
Speaker 7: My bob.
Speaker 6: He said, I'm gonna blow you out.
Speaker 7: It'll curve back up when I put some wine on
Speaker 7: it back up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: But yeah, man, I'm I'm really appreciative to you boys.
Speaker 7: I highly respect you just because of the men you are.
Speaker 7: I follow in your path as fathers, you know, and
Speaker 7: uh and and I applaud you for being great, great
Speaker 7: black men in this culture.
Speaker 1: That I appreciate it. And Netflix, man, thank y'all.
Speaker 6: Netflix, the movie bell out in the minute now I
Speaker 6: let my.
Speaker 4: Peoples, Yes, sir, We're gonna help you connect them down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, let me ask you this, when you heard
Speaker 3: Dre's verse, and what's the difference between me and you.
Speaker 1: Did? What emotions did that take you through?
Speaker 7: I don't think I made my way through it yet. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so I was still just drunk.
Speaker 3: He meant that though, when he said I love you Doc,
Speaker 3: you can hear you can hear it in Dre's Boys
Speaker 3: like you mean he meaning old.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Eminem wrote that song, yeah, but Dre delivered it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 7: and it's true to like shit, Man, I know Dre
Speaker 7: loved me. Yeah, I don't question that at all. He's
Speaker 7: a big brother, you know, and he's gonna act like
Speaker 7: a big brother. That means what I say in the
Speaker 7: movie is he watched me fall. He helped me get
Speaker 7: back up. Yeah, he watched me fall. He helped me
Speaker 7: get back up. You know, that's what the brother's supposed
Speaker 7: to do. That's right. And so whenever he called, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna go, you know what I mean. And I'm respectful
Speaker 7: of his position of his cachet. But like I said,
Speaker 7: when I went up there and to get that that signature,
Speaker 7: that release for this film, I don't take it lightly
Speaker 7: because this this is virtually a billionaire signing his name
Speaker 7: on the dotted line. And anybody in our business know,
Speaker 7: you don't take that lightly, you know, because anything could
Speaker 7: be in that that paperwork. Now you old this motherfucker
Speaker 7: this and he didn't know and that you know. And
Speaker 7: so I got so much respect for both my brothers,
Speaker 7: for all of them out there, and my sister and
Speaker 7: Joel's my sister rest in peace. We was a real
Speaker 7: family and we made to music that that that will
Speaker 7: be here alone in the world, change.
Speaker 4: The world with your music.
Speaker 1: You have a relationship with Answer Pact, Yeah, talk about it.
Speaker 4: He's so dope.
Speaker 1: It it's called He's one of the great ones. Bro.
Speaker 7: I remember it is a guy named Adrian. He brought
Speaker 7: Innocent to the studio and it was it was just
Speaker 7: a parent that he had that thing. He played a
Speaker 7: song oddly't know about being a pimp, and I loved it.
Speaker 7: You know, he's way over here from that, but you
Speaker 7: could tell in his writing that he just had that it.
Speaker 7: And and Dre's far from stupid.
Speaker 1: And he had fun with his music as Pack had
Speaker 1: fun with his music.
Speaker 7: If you show Dre the ship, he will snatch it
Speaker 7: up quickly. But Dre's been blessed with seconds.
Speaker 6: He started out with.
Speaker 7: Cube and then me and then Snoopy and then him
Speaker 7: and then fifty like he got blessed with and the
Speaker 7: hitters all the way through his ride. And so I'm
Speaker 7: just blessed to be on their list.
Speaker 1: Is hip hop in a good place now?
Speaker 7: I think it's evolving to a good place. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm with you. Yeah, I think that's what's going on
Speaker 7: right now. I think a lot of the stuff that's
Speaker 7: going on in the world today it's sort of precipitating
Speaker 7: that that that that that shit is dead.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: Uh, folks is getting in trouble, and folks is worried
Speaker 7: about whether they're gonna be into It's just time for
Speaker 7: some life. Enough for that death ship. Yeah, it's time
Speaker 7: for some life ship, you know. That's that's what I'm
Speaker 7: enough of the death ship. It's time for some life, yeah, bro,
Speaker 7: for real, for real, because uh, you can say that
Speaker 7: you are speaking life and to your children when you
Speaker 7: talk to them. But your children are no different than
Speaker 7: you were when you were a child. You know, you
Speaker 7: didn't listen to what they said. You watch what they did,
Speaker 7: and you want to do what they did. You know,
Speaker 7: so you can tell me that you're on the TV
Speaker 7: doing all this wild ship and he ain't go home
Speaker 7: and tell your child some good ship. The child was
Speaker 7: watching the wild ship and aspiring to do that. When
Speaker 7: Puma decided she wanted to allow a male suitor to
Speaker 7: uh to come into her space, she made sure that
Speaker 7: she brought the man around the young man around me
Speaker 7: to meet me. That was number one sign I did
Speaker 7: a good job. So I took him to this restaurant
Speaker 7: called the Tower Club downtown. So on the forty first floor,
Speaker 7: got us a nice table by the window.
Speaker 4: I told him that ship, I already know what this
Speaker 4: is going boy, playing and just telling.
Speaker 7: Him to take a look down. That's how that's that's
Speaker 7: that's how far I had to fall to find myself.
Speaker 7: You don't want to follow that far, you know, so
Speaker 7: tread lightly. But to her credit, the young man was
Speaker 7: a lot like me. Humble guy, got a squad but
Speaker 7: would rather not, you know. And it's and it's it's
Speaker 7: good enough to my baby that he knows when to
Speaker 7: talk and when not to. You know, man, he he
Speaker 7: he handle us her like I did. Her mother, or
Speaker 7: should I say, allows her to handle him the way
Speaker 7: I allowed I do.
Speaker 6: You know, handled me? You know, had me being a
Speaker 6: vegan for two years.
Speaker 1: I remember that, you know.
Speaker 6: And then my grandmother said.
Speaker 7: No, sir, come back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, gotta let.
Speaker 1: Jack chicken or something.
Speaker 4: Jack's on the way to come back and eating bacon.
Speaker 1: So again again in life.
Speaker 9: Some shrimps, crimpscrim first thing I came back, ri scrimps.
Speaker 6: That's up?
Speaker 1: Mmm right?
Speaker 7: And my grandmother, God rest her soul, Miss Hattie Henderson.
Speaker 1: What was grandma go to?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 6: Beans?
Speaker 1: Which one is limod? Okay?
Speaker 7: Did you why whatever? She cood?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Them good white beans.
Speaker 7: Now that's how I knew Araca because folks were saying, man,
Speaker 7: that girl like you. I was like, niggad, y'all don't
Speaker 7: like me. We just we have a thing and we anything.
Speaker 7: But I went out of town. And while I was
Speaker 7: going out of town that she went over at my
Speaker 7: grandmother's house. She made my grandmother famous in the projects.
Speaker 7: And uh, my grandmother said, I like that girl. I
Speaker 7: knew then, you know, Okay, there's something else going on.
Speaker 1: I'm all like her.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well she went over at my grandmother house. I
Speaker 6: didn't tell her to do that. Yeah, why are you
Speaker 6: going over my grandmother's house.
Speaker 7: She was expressing ourself to me in a way that
Speaker 7: she knew I would understand.
Speaker 6: Because of cold broken nigga down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you needed it though, Yeah, indeed.
Speaker 7: Jo d thing man, And she's a very spiritual person.
Speaker 7: I needed that.
Speaker 6: Uh, and she's it.
Speaker 7: I quit drinking and and doing all the other ship
Speaker 7: because her, because she gave me this little baby. And uh,
Speaker 7: I was talking about put my earlier. You know how
Speaker 7: little girl do you?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 7: She loved me so motherfucking hard that I had to
Speaker 7: be like, well, ship, let me get my shit together
Speaker 7: around the girls will do it to you.
Speaker 4: Bro quick hitter is first thing to come to mind.
Speaker 4: Let us know. Top five lyricists in your opinion, it's
Speaker 4: a lot of them. What's your list?
Speaker 7: And I don't want to disrespect nobody. Rob Kim is
Speaker 7: a guy that that I revere cause he's the guy
Speaker 7: that kind of set me on the path.
Speaker 1: That it that would make me meet y'all have a relationship.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yep mm cal rest cool G.
Speaker 2: Cool G slip rick heavyence that that's why I came
Speaker 2: up and I and I could stay out of trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: If I do it like that, yeah, cause it i'd
Speaker 7: have to say cube, I'd have to say snoop.
Speaker 4: The other side, I'd give him and them a.
Speaker 7: Lot of credit for being one of the greatest. The
Speaker 7: guy from the Wall that a's the young man Wayne
Speaker 7: Lil Wayne. Yeah, I give him a lot of credit
Speaker 7: for being great. Three thousand. I give him a lot
Speaker 7: of credit for being great.
Speaker 1: Give me three from Texas PIMC.
Speaker 7: You know my guy six y two, Scarface, it's it's
Speaker 7: uh from volte Worth. He never got a chance for
Speaker 7: his life the time, but he's back at it. And
Speaker 7: and of course mister mister scarface, you know, and I
Speaker 7: talked to scar Face all the time. I chest talked
Speaker 7: to him not too long ago.
Speaker 4: How he doing.
Speaker 7: Somebody said he just went to another thing.
Speaker 1: He good do. I talked to him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he wanted to hear from you, so I called
Speaker 7: him and then I called him and the nurse walked
Speaker 7: in the room and he said, I'm gonna call you back, nigga,
Speaker 7: never call it, so I know he got yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked to him. If you have to choose
Speaker 3: one album to play on repeat, what would it.
Speaker 6: Be the chronic.
Speaker 7: Because you can't miss those was the days. But we're
Speaker 7: in a different day now. We're in a different time.
Speaker 7: Even speaking to the boxing it's a different time now,
Speaker 7: like Bronnie being in the league, it's a different time.
Speaker 7: My youngest son, when Briannie was coming on TV, it
Speaker 7: was must mussy, you know what I man. So that's
Speaker 7: what we are. That's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 7: revere Lebron so much that he that he paved that
Speaker 7: way and made that move for his seed and got
Speaker 7: on the court with him and Bob. If he'd made
Speaker 7: that first three, that would have been a moment.
Speaker 6: But you know, I love.
Speaker 7: These guys for being great and powerful men. That Lebron
Speaker 7: went back and did so much for his community. But
Speaker 7: there's so many of you cats out there doing that nobody.
Speaker 7: They never hear about that. They never they never tell
Speaker 7: you about what what Westbrook did during Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: You don't hear about that, you know.
Speaker 7: And so it isn't coming upon us to start being
Speaker 7: blowing the whistle for us, because they're not gonna do it.
Speaker 7: There you go, and I tell these boys in the hood,
Speaker 7: it isn't coming upon you to change his hood. You
Speaker 7: got the money, you just spend half million dollars. If
Speaker 7: I stood three of you boys up, all three of
Speaker 7: you boys, and spent the half million dollars each on
Speaker 7: a bunch of gold and diamonds that claim that when
Speaker 7: they see in the street they number one.
Speaker 1: They want to take it from you.
Speaker 7: But you could have put that one point five together
Speaker 7: and got.
Speaker 1: You a house.
Speaker 7: One hundred acres right down this freeway, developed your own community.
Speaker 7: You could have developed your own because we are way
Speaker 7: past the time of uh black Wall Street won't be
Speaker 7: any more of those, you know.
Speaker 6: We we passed those.
Speaker 7: Times because we going down with it now because they
Speaker 7: hold them to choppers now.
Speaker 1: So you know.
Speaker 7: Now, but you gotta begin it to consolidate. You have
Speaker 7: to begin to think in those terms. Not that I
Speaker 7: anticipate anything, because it's a good thing, but it is
Speaker 7: written the last to be first, first to be last.
Speaker 7: Your time is coming, so you must prepare for it.
Speaker 2: You've been around a lot of great people, dead and alive.
Speaker 4: You plus five and the dinner table, dead or alive.
Speaker 7: Marvin, Yeah, sure, Biggie, Doctor King, Brother Malcolm.
Speaker 1: You got any Biggie stories? No.
Speaker 6: I met Biggie once.
Speaker 7: Like, I was really mad at Biggie when he first
Speaker 7: came out because I felt like he was taking my spots.
Speaker 7: After the wreck and everything, I still thought I was
Speaker 7: better than everybody.
Speaker 6: But when he came out, he was just.
Speaker 7: So good. And I met him at met him in Chicago.
Speaker 7: He was doing the show and uh Buff was there,
Speaker 7: and Craig Mac was there him and Craig Mac was
Speaker 7: doing the show and uh Puff came and said, Biggie
Speaker 7: like to meet you. Man with you Comma and I
Speaker 7: and I went over there and he asked me if
Speaker 7: he could take a picture with me. He was so
Speaker 7: fucking humble it it made I became an instant fan.
Speaker 7: It's hard to he can't hate on the niggas. That's
Speaker 7: that's just a good guy, you know it. It wasn't
Speaker 7: his fault that I fucked up, and you know, uh
Speaker 7: we could have battled for it, but he was killing
Speaker 7: the game. Bro, Biggie's in my line, you know what.
Speaker 7: I man, He's one of them dudes that swing like
Speaker 7: I swan and his word play was was intricate like mine.
Speaker 7: And you know, I just loved him. I was a
Speaker 7: Biggi guy more than the part guy, cause I'm I'm
Speaker 7: a guy that really gets into writing and the lyrics
Speaker 7: and the word play and how you spit it, you know,
Speaker 7: And I just thought he was just the greatest what's
Speaker 7: your guilty pleasure? I don't have one anymore? My children
Speaker 7: lay in two K with my.
Speaker 2: Son be talking too much shit and he talks.
Speaker 6: To way too much. Ship you up to beat on
Speaker 6: his chest.
Speaker 7: I mean my dollars you losing.
Speaker 1: I'm trash.
Speaker 3: I'm trashy two K. I ain't play two K. What
Speaker 3: figure in hip hop will be a great boxer?
Speaker 7: Well, Bri, I ain't been. I ain't been around enough cats. No,
Speaker 7: but dra got hands like a motherfucker mann what and
Speaker 7: with throw them things and drop over dye and matter
Speaker 7: of fact, like when I go when I go to
Speaker 7: l A, I never go out never go places dangerous
Speaker 7: out there. If I go, I go with Dre number one.
Speaker 7: He's gonna have plenty of security around number two. If
Speaker 7: they step out of me, gonna tell they hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got a good little I think he's involved
Speaker 2: in this. A new steakhouse in the valley called Boulevard. Okay,
Speaker 2: it is five. You gotta check it out.
Speaker 6: He's animal business man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could see one guest on our show,
Speaker 3: who would it be? But you have to help us
Speaker 3: get your answer on our show.
Speaker 7: Well you're not ready ask me. Yeah, I'm gonna put
Speaker 7: that word.
Speaker 3: In thank you appreciate it. Bro Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 3: When I think of one line of one album people
Speaker 3: one album, and that is timeless. The only people I
Speaker 3: can think of are you and Lauren Hill with just
Speaker 3: one album. There's just timeless all this time. Still listen
Speaker 3: to it, Still want to see you'll perform, Still want
Speaker 3: to hear it, Like I can only think of you
Speaker 3: and Lauren Hill.
Speaker 6: It's a blessing. Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of Lauren Hill album.
Speaker 7: No pleasing about it, mis education, Come on, Brod's showing out.
Speaker 7: It's a lot of folks out there. When out when
Speaker 7: the Reg happened eleven eleven. I was supposed to be.
Speaker 7: I was on tour with Ice Tea and mc lighting
Speaker 7: and Slick Reg and all these people. The tours started
Speaker 7: eleven seventeen, so I never got a chance to go
Speaker 7: out on the road with that record.
Speaker 6: And but Ice Tea tells.
Speaker 7: Me a story that it was his It was his
Speaker 7: job to go out on stage and tell folks that
Speaker 7: I wasn't coming because of the wreck. He said, Man,
Speaker 7: you could hear the emotion. You could feel that shit
Speaker 7: when folks heard what had happened. And they still ribbing
Speaker 7: with me to this day.
Speaker 6: Bro, Like.
Speaker 7: They don't give a damn about the voice, They just
Speaker 7: want to hear it. But it's creating. Art comes from
Speaker 7: inside and if you don't feel it, it's hard to
Speaker 7: get it out. But I say, you know, twenty twenty
Speaker 7: twenty five is going to be a great year for
Speaker 7: West Coast here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: We just want to thank you man for your time
Speaker 2: in what you've meant to the culture, what you meant
Speaker 2: to us, and getting a giving us another opportunity to
Speaker 2: get a chance to know you want a deeper level,
Speaker 2: and we firmly believe that all the great things ahead
Speaker 2: of your way, man, So we're going to be praying
Speaker 2: for you and only a phone call away.
Speaker 1: Man. One last question. I just thought of it.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We had him on the show recently, Larry Johnson, you knowing.
Speaker 7: Ljay Hell yeah, Grandmama yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Y'all know other well yeah yeah, he went to Scotland.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he was our first big one.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, big fit.
Speaker 7: He's still you know, great love it yeah.
Speaker 1: Sir, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, we got a gift
Speaker 2: for you, first ever podcast coffee table book with all
Speaker 2: of our guests.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Book number two will definitely have you with it. Of course.
Speaker 4: This is good to take home man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, we appreciate you saying it.
Speaker 7: Get all the smoke, even though I don't smoke no more.
Speaker 4: What's smoking up? What's smoking enough for you?
Speaker 1: He does, so she can pull up and blow with us.
Speaker 7: Snoop said, you'll be back.
Speaker 6: Thank you, brother.
Speaker 4: We appreciateiation.
Speaker 8: Mhm mm hmmmm
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm