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Speaker 1: What up, y'all. This is Matt Barnes and you boys

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our show, All the Smoke.

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Speaker 3: For the past five years, we've interviewed the biggest stars

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to All the Smoke. We out here in

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Speaker 2: Dallas for the Tyson Jake Paul fight. Compliments of Netflix.

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Speaker 2: That was good next to us, bro, Yes, it does.

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Speaker 2: They've been treating us with nothing but love too. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate you, guys man. Today we got a legend man.

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Speaker 2: Jack made a call and struck Gold A pioneer in

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Speaker 2: this music space. Me being the West Coast kid, very

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Speaker 2: instrumental in my upbringing. Welcome to the show, d OC.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeahs yeah, man, we appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Jack.

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Speaker 2: When did you first hear of d OC? You're out

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Speaker 2: this way, yeah, coach.

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Speaker 3: Being in the streets, I think I first heard the

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Speaker 3: album through DJ Screw being in that area.

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Speaker 6: He screwed pe.

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Speaker 1: Huh r ip to the legend.

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Speaker 3: A lot of our music would slowed down down there,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of the news that we learned from

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Speaker 3: East Coast to West we heard through DJ Screw because

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Speaker 3: a lot of musers wouldn't played on our radio.

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Speaker 1: So that's how we got hip to DC.

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Speaker 3: And then then him being from Texas and having a

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Speaker 3: relationship with him and bun Bee I got, you know,

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Speaker 3: just being in that circle. That's how we just you know,

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Speaker 3: grew up listening to him and knew he was a

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Speaker 3: legend coming from Texas.

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Speaker 2: Outside of that, I didn't look at you your fit.

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Speaker 2: It's nice, bro, what is that?

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Speaker 1: So? Said son? Mom? There George? Yeah, appreciated, Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I see clean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that boyd clean so off camera.

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Speaker 2: You told us you have some stuff cooking, so we

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Speaker 2: can't expect fingers crossed. You ain't got to tell us

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Speaker 2: the whole thing, but some music coming from you.

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Speaker 6: Uh so, b, I really don't want to you know what, anything.

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Speaker 4: Is possible, Okay, Yeah, just just wee there's a chance.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Bro, I'm in a full circle moment in my experience.

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Speaker 7: Uh well, I think I'm in the gay opportunity to

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Speaker 7: do it, to do a lot of stuff that that

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Speaker 7: might have passed me by the first time around, some

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Speaker 7: G O D things, not DC thing. So he feel

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Speaker 7: like I'm ready, and shit, I feel like I'm ready, Toll.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, explain to us what you were talking about earlier

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Speaker 2: about kind of how things are starting to revert back

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Speaker 2: to you after a certain amount of time. You're starting

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Speaker 2: to get you know, the credit for I was.

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Speaker 7: Talking about the reversion rule in most contracts that was

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Speaker 7: done back in those days. Thirty five years after the

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Speaker 7: music is released, it reverts back to the original publisher.

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Speaker 7: So that means all those things that I wrote for

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Speaker 7: those boys and for myself that might have been moved

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Speaker 7: out the way in a way, I'm gonna find that

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Speaker 7: way back starting.

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Speaker 4: This year, So what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: You got to think thirty five years You've seen a

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Speaker 2: the fact that you're still here. We're obviously gonna get

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Speaker 2: into your journey. But the fact that you're sitting here

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Speaker 2: thirty five years later, finally going to really be able

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Speaker 2: to read the benefits of all your hard work, what

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Speaker 7: I was telling you about my boys legend and Diggie

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Speaker 7: is myself old eighty nine and really, bro it's about them,

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Speaker 7: you know, like, and not just my boys, all those

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Speaker 7: I had a hell of a testimony, and it says

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Speaker 3: Being for Texas and being a lezard from Texas, explain

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Speaker 7: There was a DJ down there named Doctor Rock in

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Speaker 7: the in the mid eighties. He came from la He

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Speaker 7: was a part of the Wrecking Crew World Class Working

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Speaker 7: Crew DJ S. In fact, Dra took his place when

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Speaker 1: Ah okay.

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Speaker 7: So to pay him back for doing that, dre produced

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Speaker 7: four songs for you in his little group called the

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Speaker 7: Felis First Crew, which how I was in. And so

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Speaker 7: I made out what felis all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 7: but I shit, I didn't know nothing, abod no damn

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Speaker 7: Felix man. I was from the West Dollas Project. I

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Speaker 7: was broke as a joke. But the rock that was

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Speaker 7: he heard me busting, he was like, man, you just shit.

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Speaker 7: If you was in California, I guarantee.

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Speaker 6: You we'd be rich.

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Speaker 7: At first, I turned him down, but about six months

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Speaker 7: later I dropped out of our school and my mother said,

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Speaker 7: you're going to the Army. And I called Drake back.

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Speaker 8: I said that deal still stay said yeah, fly here.

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Speaker 6: I selectly I'm not there.

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Speaker 2: So, like you said, you and dra met each other

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Speaker 2: at what sixteen years old high school?

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Speaker 3: You were still in high school. That's crazy. Me being

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Speaker 3: from South Texas. Dallas always is like more like California

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Speaker 3: the gang culture, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. How

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Speaker 3: different was the gang culture being what?

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Speaker 6: It was?

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Speaker 7: No gang culture when I left Dallas? Yeah, Like when

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Speaker 7: I left Dallas, everybody wanted to be from New York.

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Speaker 7: There was warning, leather and tims. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Then I went to LA and made these records with

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Speaker 7: and everybody looked like Easy.

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Speaker 1: You ain't.

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Speaker 4: With the drip curls too.

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Speaker 7: Everybody looked like either with the sag and then the

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Speaker 2: Speak to him, though, because I don't think he gets

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Speaker 2: enough credit for just his creativity, his willingness to make

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Speaker 2: about just what kind of person he was. Speak to him,

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Speaker 2: and how instrumental obviously all you guys coming together.

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Speaker 7: Was Easy was a real one. If it's a such

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Speaker 7: I man, and I don't think he thought steps ahead, uh,

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Speaker 7: in his music space. He just wanted it all right now.

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Speaker 6: But he had that.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't the most talented dude in the world, couldn't

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Speaker 7: and and all the little girls, they loved him and

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Speaker 7: they had that voice. And it's hard to lose with

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Speaker 7: with Dre's production, Bros. It's really impossible to lose with

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Speaker 7: doctor Dre making your making your sound. And this is

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Speaker 7: before the world knew who Dre was. I knew who

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Speaker 7: Dre it was. And Dre used to listen. You don't

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Speaker 6: Back then.

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Speaker 7: He took Mary, you know, he took my advice really seriously.

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Speaker 7: And if you listen to World Class Working Crew, to

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Speaker 6: So by the time.

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Speaker 1: We're going away from him, start going away from your sound.

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Speaker 7: No, he started leaving the n w A stuff going

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Speaker 7: into my stuff you could see early g Funk.

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Speaker 7: By the time he got to the chronic he was

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Speaker 1: Ocean Yeah yeah, yeah, been from Texas.

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Speaker 3: Any Southern rap groups, because I know you know a

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Speaker 3: that inspired you when you was coming up rapping all.

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Speaker 7: Of them man student of the game. But when I

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Speaker 7: It was Rock Kim and Koochie rapping, Big Daddy Kane

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Speaker 7: They were my contemporaries, but they wasn't as good as me, right,

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Speaker 1: Being in Texas.

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Speaker 3: He was the only rapper we even knew that was

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Speaker 6: It's a lot of them though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of Most threes and all that.

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Speaker 7: But before Most three and trop Boy and Yellow Beesy

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Speaker 3: One guy from Dallas, he used to rapper Swisher House,

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Speaker 3: he used to rapp with the Mother Boys.

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Speaker 1: And Swisher House.

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Speaker 6: Ron C.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ron Se.

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Speaker 7: It's a lot of boys from Texas and Big Tuck

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Speaker 3: And I remember Big Talk. Yeah, he had a big,

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Speaker 1: A lot of those boys.

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Speaker 6: And you know it's before it got really.

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Speaker 7: Uh just dirty, you know, got violent and what they

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Speaker 7: call drill music, before guys start really trying to live

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Speaker 7: the records on TV and film theyself being young assholes.

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Speaker 7: You know, the music lost the love, the soul and

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Speaker 7: I was a young man, they used to slow dance.

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Speaker 7: They don't do that no more. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: You go to you go to a spot and you

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Speaker 7: see a bunch of niggas dogs skip my language. You

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Speaker 7: see a bunch of niggas in the corner dancing with

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Speaker 7: To write for those guys, records that weren't as threatening,

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Speaker 6: Everybody was.

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Speaker 7: Everybody except Q was there that day and Drey pulled

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Speaker 7: Couldn't hold him back after that, after you've seen Easy

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Speaker 4: What was that process?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: We didn't show you writing for them as much as

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Speaker 6: I let them boys out of the time.

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Speaker 6: I hear that all the time.

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Speaker 7: And they're talking about giving a n W A L

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Speaker 7: Ce Mike, Yeah, Ce might reach out because he does that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I told I told my my team the other day,

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Speaker 6: That's my guy. Yeah, because he's a good man.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, damn all the rap ship and the

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Speaker 6: He's just a good man.

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Speaker 7: I always have been, not to say that those other

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Speaker 6: A Southern the dude strong family.

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Speaker 1: Last night Jackson, I get it. I get it.

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Speaker 7: A lot of respect all those men, but but I

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Speaker 2: But uh, what was the question the process of kind

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just I laid it. He take it and learn it.

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Speaker 7: It take him three or four days to do this ship.

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Speaker 7: But uh, at the end of the day, Dre having

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Speaker 1: Did Didre have to nudge him a lot from being

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of you don't know that. I know,

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Speaker 7: That's back in the days when when it wasn't digital

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Speaker 7: But dres Uh you know from and I know I'm

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Speaker 7: he is doing what he does and watching him thirty

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Speaker 7: It seemed like he do the same little shit every

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Speaker 7: In fact, I just left LA. I had to go

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Speaker 6: And we was able.

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Speaker 7: Was he was twisting up some stuff for Snoopy's record

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dog was telling us about that process.

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Speaker 6: Raising his bag right now.

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Speaker 1: He loved Snoop. Let us hear some of that shit,

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Speaker 7: Is in his bag, Snoop sound great. Those guys are happy,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to. You know, Drake get it.

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Speaker 7: He feel the kind of way if you talk about it.

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Speaker 7: So I don't want to get too much. But what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring it back.

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Speaker 4: We go hear some DC in twenty five years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. Talk about the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some names.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Sure came around in the early n W eight

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Speaker 7: There was a musician that was in our clique name

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Speaker 7: La dra Him and Sure called themselves brothers, and Sure

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Speaker 7: was like a brother to me. Take me to the clubs,

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Speaker 7: I mean used to be a club in Hollywood on

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Speaker 6: I'm not supposed to be in there, but I'm mature.

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Speaker 7: They let me in. You might see Prince over there

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Speaker 7: I went from well that was projects to that more

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Speaker 7: you know, he was in my ear. Wouldn't be none

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Speaker 7: of this wouldn't be happening without you. You did a

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Speaker 6: Do it all right.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: In fact, he did a lot of shit that was

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Speaker 6: Tupac was a good dude, good younger guy.

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Speaker 7: We was both alphas, and during that time, he thought

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Speaker 6: I thought I was the one.

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Speaker 7: So you know how that worked. When we get in

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Speaker 8: Then when I had that accident, he had jokes all

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Speaker 7: God Rest, they was, you know, they was real close.

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Speaker 7: And so between me and Breed and scar Face and

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Speaker 6: If you go this way, I can show you it ain't.

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Speaker 6: If it's about getting this.

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Speaker 7: Paper, I can show you how to get the paper,

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Speaker 7: and show you how to keep it, you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean, and show you how to build with it

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Speaker 7: instead of using it to build yourself up in them

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Speaker 7: give it right back to the man that gave it

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Speaker 7: Because you're making the money, you got the power, you

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Speaker 1: It, and stay alive with it.

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Speaker 3: You said sugar was a big reason that nobody fucked

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Speaker 7: Man, Another reason I took to the alcohol so tough

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Speaker 7: it's not my moo. But I'm a big enough man

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Speaker 7: that you don't know, you know what I mean, whether

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Speaker 7: if I walk up on this niggas, he gonna not

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Speaker 7: But that all make you bark loud dark Ain't nobody

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Speaker 6: So that was really me. It didn't matter who you are.

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Speaker 7: I'm talking shit to everybody, but I stayed within that

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 7: We wake up at ten o'clock in the morning, go

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Speaker 2: Speak to the competitive nature. Obviously us as athletes, it

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Speaker 2: never left us speak to the competitive nature amongst you

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Speaker 2: and how competitive it was at that time in good spirit,

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Speaker 2: but it got real. Speak to that competitive It is real,

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Speaker 2: is it? Rapping is a gladiator sport. You know, look

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Speaker 2: at Kenji get in the guy Drake. These guys are

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Speaker 2: fighting for blood now. But back in those days, between QE.

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Speaker 4: Down, be right, this ship change.

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Speaker 6: He's Cube was so strong.

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Speaker 7: It's always that first line. If that first line is

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Speaker 7: glad y'all said it out like that first line of that.

448
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a crazy first line.

449
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 7: But back in them days, man, it was love because

450
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 7: we knew we had something special. When we was trying

451
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 7: to be bring out the best.

452
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Speaker 6: Of each other.

453
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever think at that time, because obviously

454
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: coming from nothing, all you guys come from nothing that

455
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: the sound you made with resident. Were you thinking about

456
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: legacy or history at the time or just thinking about

457
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: being great in that moment?

458
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, just that moment we knew, we knew it was

459
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 7: the ship. We didn't know it was to the extent

460
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 7: of what it was gonna be. And when I was

461
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 7: making workers with NWA, I wasn't even tripping off the

462
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 7: n w A shit. If I'm being honest, I'm you know,

463
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 7: I'm on the bench. I'm waiting for my let me shit,

464
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 7: but it's my turn watching let me let me show

465
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 7: you boys how to do this. Back in those early days,

466
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 7: you know, we was all in the studio together, but

467
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 7: when it came time for the shit to come out,

468
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 7: I had to I had to stand where they standing,

469
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 7: you know, and the other.

470
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 6: Guys would be out here.

471
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: They are they bothered me.

472
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to be right.

473
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 7: And so that just gave me a really competitive drive. Okay,

474
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 7: that's like y'all want to do it.

475
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: But speak to what that groan, because I don't think

476
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: people understand you had to really pay your dues.

477
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: First.

478
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: You put a lot of penwork in and a lot

479
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: of instrumentaling other people shit to finally get your opportunity to,

480
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, to do your thing. But take that back

481
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: to did I want to ask him after that? But

482
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: when're coming from Dallas, right, you told that.

483
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 7: Those guys had already started the boat, and uh, you

484
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 7: know I was coming in last, so you gotta you

485
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 7: gotta pay your dues. But like I said, I was

486
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 7: coming in from Texas, and when I got that all

487
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 7: in me, I didn't mind telling them niggas every day

488
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 7: who was the one that I made it? Now we

489
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 7: can do it.

490
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 6: I'm here, let's get it.

491
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Yes, But it was all.

492
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 7: Love and and and those boys are you know, they'll

493
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 7: they'll be family. We got a legacy together, absolutely, and

494
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 7: I'm just thankful for it.

495
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: What do you think the first thing to come to

496
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: mind when you see that picture right there?

497
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Who the two dudes in the back next to Drey

498
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: lay Load.

499
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 6: And me.

500
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but I think that might be the

501
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 7: nice somebody stole my necklace.

502
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: I look at my face, I'm mad.

503
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 4: The mother funny, you ain't got no change on? Huh.

504
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think somebody snatched my shit off. I had

505
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 7: to learn about even less.

506
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: You's you in the back? Yeah, I don't look like you.

507
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 7: Don't look like him, bro, that's why you said the

508
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 7: wisdom dude.

509
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't even look like you back the look

510
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: like mad like the skined dude, mad.

511
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 7: In laylong restom piece and my guys easy resting peace

512
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 7: and a cue Nice m c RN DJ Yeller and

513
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 7: and the Uncomfortable Doctor dre the Quincy Jones in my generation,

514
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 7: Ma ro Pi Quincy question, do you.

515
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 4: Ever think about curling your ship up?

516
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 5: No?

517
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 4: That wasn't your thing. Huh No, you.

518
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: Ain't grow your ship. You ain't never grew your house. No.

519
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we in Texas, you know the shag Yeah yeah,

520
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, my.

521
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 7: Sick would never grow that one.

522
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 4: Bring us in.

523
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: Started studio session with Dray Quick yourself, Q dads Like,

524
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: what was that?

525
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 4: What was that like?

526
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 6: Fun?

527
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: You know?

528
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 6: What what is it like?

529
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: Uh?

530
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 7: Going to practice on the great.

531
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 3: Team and all you gotta do is play your role?

532
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 7: Come on, man, yo, that's it. It's fun and a motherfucker.

533
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 7: You ain't got to do nothing but what you do

534
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 7: and if you do it, well, y'all gonna win. And

535
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 7: my lines day role off facts.

536
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: You know.

537
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 7: So I seen you somewhere, you just talking about when

538
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 7: they arrived.

539
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: You're the m v P trophy McDonald's game.

540
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw you.

541
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 7: I empathized with that because the system is a motherfucker

542
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 7: play the game, you know. But but you did that.

543
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 7: They can't take that. Yeah, they can't take it from it.

544
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 7: Yeah take yeah, And Kobe said it. Kobe thought I

545
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 7: got MVP.

546
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: So I really feel like I got it now, Kobe said,

547
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 3: talk about Das though, Like das dad is somebody who

548
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of, and you know he had

549
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: a big influence on Tupac as well.

550
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: With this, MutS can't talk about Das how talented Dash is.

551
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 7: Dans is a real one, easy shut snoopy dazz. THESEUS

552
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 7: guys made from that culture and they represented one thousand percent.

553
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 7: That is just a good dude and a fantastic producer.

554
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 7: When I first met the dog, uh, he moved into

555
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 7: my house with me out in Calabasas, and things started

556
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 7: falling apart for me and I started losing my stuff.

557
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 6: Your car and all the all the ship that you.

558
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 7: I started throwing gold records away, you know, because I

559
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 7: was just depressed and destroyed, and I threw records away

560
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 7: and he would go get him out the trash and

561
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 7: he kept the motherfuckers. He still got him to this day.

562
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 7: That's just because that's my guy. You know, anything I need,

563
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 7: I can call him and ask for him and snooping,

564
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 7: that whole dog Pound thing, that whole Long Beach thing.

565
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 7: Those guys really took me in and for me when

566
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 7: when I couldn't care for myself. What's that's what's up?

567
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 7: Shout out dad? Corrupt?

568
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

569
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 7: Man, those are my guys, and that doesn't corrupt. Out

570
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 7: Bound for life.

571
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna list some things off and then I want

572
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: to ask you something particular. Obviously your early writing Easy's

573
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: versus straight out of Compton and Fuck the Police co

574
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: wrote easiest parts of Gangster Gangster with mc wren roll

575
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: one of the classic n w A albums, obviously straight

576
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: out of Compton, Easiest Pardon We Want Easy. When you're

577
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: pinning for different people, how do you embody them in

578
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: kind of their spirit to still make it them through

579
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: your mind?

580
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 6: Then I'm a writer. That that's what I do.

581
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 7: And I'm not writing for them, I'm writing for me

582
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 7: through them. I mean, because the ship gotta be dope.

583
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 7: My job is to make them sound the best that

584
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 7: they could sound. Being them may not be the ship

585
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 7: that I would say, may not be the subject matter,

586
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 7: but if you sit around them and pay attention to

587
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 7: them long enough, you just take their mannerisms and the

588
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 7: colloquialisms that they use, the little phrases and words.

589
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 6: And try to make it your own, you know.

590
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 7: And I took a lot of pride in being able

591
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 7: to being able to give to those guys. I took

592
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 7: a lot of pride in and being able to help

593
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 7: Snoop find his voice, you know.

594
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 9: Uh.

595
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 7: And Snoop was a willing student, you know. He like

596
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 7: Snoopy really allowed me to live when I didn't have

597
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 7: no reason to live, because rap was really all I had.

598
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 7: You know. When you took that shit, you took a lot,

599
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 7: you know, but I was allowed to live through dog.

600
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 7: And he came in and just tow shit up, So

601
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 7: his victory felt like my victory.

602
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: He spoke to how instrumental you were and helping him

603
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: be a craft his shit.

604
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: You know.

605
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: He was a big freestyler and you he was very

606
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: you know, vocal on giving you a credit on you

607
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: helped them song craft, and can you explain that?

608
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: You know what that meant?

609
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: I seen that he.

610
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 7: Get on here and he started trying to talk like me.

611
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 6: John said, God, but that was true. It's true.

612
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 7: He'd say he wrapped his whole long ass rap, and

613
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 7: I'd be like, this shit is dope right here. He

614
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 7: ain't lose me right here, but see down here, and

615
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 7: shit is dope. Let's just let's put that out. Let's

616
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 7: get this folk. Put that motherfucker right there. Now, wrap

617
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 7: them eight line you see how Now we're gonna do

618
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 7: this all the way. And he just wrap up, you know,

619
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 7: a thousand bars and we just pick out sixteen.

620
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: So he didn't know how to write sixteen.

621
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 6: I think he just rapped.

622
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just a lot of people still don't know how

623
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: account balls. There's a lot of rabbits that don't know

624
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: what account balls.

625
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 6: Snoop, you just turn that motherfucker home and go and

626
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: he'll go.

627
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty nine time it's your time to shine. No

628
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: one could do it better. Number hip hop album in

629
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: the country, certified gold within three weeks. You know, everyone

630
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: had their little piece on it, but it was finally

631
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: your time. What did that mean to you, what did

632
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: that feel like?

633
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 7: I was some motherfucking cocky at that time in my life.

634
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 7: I probably was not the best human. I was probably

635
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 7: talking shit to every single body.

636
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 6: And then Geod said, okay, back.

637
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 7: But my thought process, even while bec I'm a spiritual guy,

638
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 7: you know, it's a God thing with me, always as being.

639
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 7: Even the album of cover, no one could do. A

640
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: better album of cover is in front of a statue

641
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 7: of Jesus says King of King's Lord, Lord on the deal.

642
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 7: Now in my mind's eye, and I saw that statue

643
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 7: going from easy would take this treat going to the

644
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 7: bank every imagine that going to the bank every time

645
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 7: we went to Hollywood. I seen that that statue. So

646
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take my album come in front of that

647
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 7: because it just struck me and my mind's eye. This

648
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 7: is gonna be the start of my testimony, you know,

649
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 7: making people understand who's responsible, because my whole journey started

650
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 7: with a prayer here in Dallas, when my mother said

651
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 7: you're going to.

652
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 6: The army and I prayed. Man, I got sat down.

653
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 7: Next to the couch at my sister's house I was

654
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 7: living there at the time, and I prayed. I said God,

655
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 7: this is what I want to do, like I'm good

656
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 7: at this.

657
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: If you let me do this, I.

658
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 7: Promise you when I get there, I'm gonna tell everybody

659
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 7: it was you, it wasn't me. And eighteen months later

660
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 7: I sold three million records. My and Mine is gonna

661
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 7: come out. Took the picture in front of that statue,

662
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 7: thinking that was gonna be the beginning of my testimony.

663
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: But then you starts, the kids starts wearing King of

664
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 7: King's Lord on the rings and the necklaces. So I

665
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 7: guess my thought was pretty soon I started to think, shit,

666
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 7: well maybe I am, you know, And he got too

667
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 7: high up on that horse, and JO deal will bring

668
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 7: your ass back down the where you need to be.

669
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Speaker 2: One of our crew mentioned that, you know, you're noticed

670
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: that you never really excuse me cuss too much? Yeah right,

671
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: cuss too much during your speak to the thinking behind that.

672
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 7: At my core, I'm a East Coast MC in the

673
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 7: tradition of those guys I mentioned to you earlier. Uh,

674
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 7: and they didn't cuss like that, They didn't speak negative.

675
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 7: All the shit that nw A did was not a

676
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 7: part of hip hop in the area where I grew up,

677
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 7: trying to become that, and so I didn't do that.

678
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 7: I wanted to be the best at that. Yeah man,

679
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 7: just lyrics. But that ended up being helpful to me

680
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 7: spending time with the NWA guys, because the music still

681
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 7: sounded rough and rugged. It's just the word plays different.

682
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: A few months after your album, you hit the album,

683
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: you get into the accident.

684
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Can you walk us through that night?

685
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 7: That's a couple couple of days over a weekend, Saturday

686
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 7: and Sunday. Direct happens November the eleven, three thirty three am.

687
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 7: It was just the anniversary, Yeah, thirty fifth anniversary. Just

688
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 7: the other day I had been shooting UH videos over

689
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: two videos of was that weekend, a video for a

690
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 7: song called Beautiful but Deadly and a video to a

691
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 7: song called a Formula.

692
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 6: And because it was so much.

693
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 7: Work, I was falling asleep a lot, and somebody was

694
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 7: around that offered me something that would help me stay

695
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 7: stay away, probably a very old story, and I accepted

696
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 7: that and and twenty four hours later that accident happened.

697
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 7: Twenty four hours later. Twenty four hours later, I UH,

698
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 7: I took the stuff. I went home, which was Drey's

699
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 7: house at the time, and Dre said Maig you need

700
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 7: to take your ass to sleep. I said, okay, and

701
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 7: then he went to the store. But about my inside

702
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 7: was just racing. I couldn't go to sleep. So when

703
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 7: he left, I left. And now I'm in La in

704
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 7: the streets all day, drinking and smoking and doing what

705
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 7: those boys do. And by the time I finally said, oh,

706
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 7: I want to go home and go to sleep, was

707
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 7: two o'clock. Almost two o'clock the next day. I still

708
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 7: haven't been to sleep, so I'm on my way home.

709
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 6: Just didn't make it. But I gotta say this canful.

710
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 7: Everything in my life is purposeful, including that accident.

711
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 6: Now, I had to go through a.

712
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 7: Lot of bottles, a lot of drugs and depression and

713
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 7: to find my way back to who I am today.

714
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 7: But it was twenty twenty.

715
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 6: I had been.

716
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 7: Cleaning sober for about eight years. God came to me,

717
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 7: and I worked my way back up to a you know,

718
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 7: a decent living. I could provide for my boys, and

719
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 7: anything a good man would want to do I was doing.

720
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 7: I didn't have what my contemporaries had. I didn't have

721
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 7: certainly what Dray and Snooped them had, but I had

722
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 7: peace of mind, you know, and Jo d came and

723
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 7: he he.

724
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 6: Said, uh, you could let go of that pain. Huge.

725
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 7: He said that you didn't do that. I did that.

726
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 7: You weren't responsible for that. I was, And uh, I

727
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 7: did it for a purpose and you were about to

728
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 7: walk in that purpose. It was a couple months after

729
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 7: that I decided to do the documentary, you know, and

730
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 7: everything since then, it's been on the show inclined, and

731
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 7: I think, uh, you know, like I said, twenty twenty

732
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 7: five is gonna be the year I stepped back out

733
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 7: there on that ass.

734
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: And by that, by the time, by the.

735
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 7: Time the world show up in DFW in twenty twenty six,

736
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be back.

737
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 6: On my thronte.

738
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you know what I mean.

739
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, because you know the g Cup is coming here

740
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 7: in twenty six, so I'm.

741
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 6: Gona have my little little jingle bag ready. You can

742
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: get that dollar from.

743
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 7: Everybody to get off the plug, understand me. That's good business.

744
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: Would you say, in the way that accident saved your

745
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: life in the long run?

746
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know. I was.

747
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 7: I was on the one way ticket to the shit

748
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 7: to some goddamn well wherever I was going. I didn't know,

749
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 7: like I said, I was out of my head. You know,

750
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 7: I thought I was the greatest rapper of all time.

751
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 7: Can't tell me nothing. I got uh six foot three,

752
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 7: three hundred and twenty pounds bodyguard basically with me. That said,

753
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 7: if I come in the club and slap you upside

754
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 7: the head, I can just do that and move out

755
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 7: the way, you know, And I did that.

756
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 6: It was bad for a while through, but Jod got a.

757
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 7: Way of putting you in your your space and in

758
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 7: your place. And like I said, all that stuff was

759
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 7: purposeful so that I could understand and give back to

760
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 7: these babies that's out there now. They think that's the way.

761
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 7: It's not the way. Man.

762
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: If somebody said before your accident, the DC, if he

763
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: didn't have an accident, he would be he would have

764
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: been the best rapper, love best rapper. Ever, how do

765
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: you how do you feel when you hear those words?

766
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 7: Well, I think they're right right, you know. And and

767
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 7: little don't count me out cause I I still vote

768
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 7: for me.

769
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean?

770
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 7: Like, uh, in order for they had verses, in order

771
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 7: for you to do a versus against me, you would

772
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 7: have had to have made one record and then get

773
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 7: your voice taken away from you and then come back

774
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 7: thirty five years later and make another one, and you

775
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 7: can now you can go ahead up with me. M

776
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 7: Other than that, you're fighting amongst yourselves.

777
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: I'm you know.

778
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 7: I don't wanna say I'm above that, as if I'm

779
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 7: better than anybody.

780
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 6: But I I no longer. I'm no longer in competition

781
00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 6: with you.

782
00:39:59,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: Boy.

783
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: I support all of you.

784
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: Yes, believe yourself.

785
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 6: Of course.

786
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: I believe in God, and God believe in me. Yeah,

787
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 7: Otherwise I'd have been.

788
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: Gone when your voice went away? Did your pen pick

789
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: up or get more potent?

790
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 7: My pen always been my pen. It ain't never lost nothing.

791
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: It's still him today. Yes, because Cubs say in this song,

792
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 7: it's my ego. It's a new record he got out.

793
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 7: He said, I was Kendred before Kendrick. Now you talking

794
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 7: about the subject matter, but them cadences, I was Kendrick,

795
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. And when Kendrick put out,

796
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 7: they're not like us. Man. It took me two days

797
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 7: to write some shit behind that energy that he made

798
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 7: me feel.

799
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 6: Uh, And I can't wait to record this.

800
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 7: Year and now the Dred is gonna get it out.

801
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: I wanna, I want, I want.

802
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: To back cut a little bit though, because take me

803
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: through how mentally tough it was for you to drop

804
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: something that, god damn it that is number one in

805
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: the country, number one album in the country, and then

806
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: taking your voice away, and as you see, your brothers

807
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: continue to do their things. So I also read one

808
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: time that you know, obviously their wins were your wins,

809
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: but how hard mentally was it that you couldn't do it?

810
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 7: Man?

811
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 6: I don't think that. Imagine was it?

812
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 7: Was it the second year Mike.

813
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 4: To Is brokes ankle at.

814
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 6: The second year.

815
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 7: Imagine Michael Jordan toward his knee up and couldn't play

816
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 7: no more? How do you think he would?

817
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: Might not be here?

818
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying? Right, So that's where that's

819
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 7: where I was at. I was in a space where

820
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 7: I didn't know what the fuck to do and the

821
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 7: only thing I had was given giving it to to

822
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 7: those guys. That that that kept me a lot, you know.

823
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 7: Snoop says it in the documentary, you know, and he

824
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 7: was right on point with that. You know that being

825
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 7: big brother to Rage and rb X and Doggie and

826
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 7: Dazz and Corrupt and and even Geeta.

827
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 6: Uh, that shit kept me a.

828
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: Lot, did you play a role in Dre going solo

829
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: and leaving wa.

830
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, none of that shit happens if I wasn't there.

831
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 7: Number one, Dre never thought about it making music. I

832
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 7: had to talk him into it. I had to fight

833
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 7: with him for months to even make the chronic. He

834
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 7: didn't want to do it. He didn't see hisself as

835
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 7: a as a solo artist. I mean, but my shit

836
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 7: was fucked up, so you all we got and so

837
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 7: come on. With respect to leaving Ruthless, I had found

838
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 7: out I'd gotten paperwork from from Ruthless and saw how

839
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 7: they had been taking advantage of me, and and I

840
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 7: told Dre, if they doing me, you know what I mean,

841
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 7: if they did a cue, ain't doing me no vacillation,

842
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? And so Dre looked into it,

843
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 7: and to his credit, he went back to Eric and

844
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 7: he tried to make it right. But but Eric was

845
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 7: was sold on on Jerry Heller. He didn't want to

846
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 7: get rid of Jerry Heller. Dre wanted to go forward together,

847
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 7: reworked their stuff and you know, continue to make records.

848
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 7: But but Easy didn't want to not move forward with

849
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: out Jerry Heller. So that precipitated that split, and sure

850
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 7: that I had already been working together with a guy

851
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 7: named Bick Griffy trying to build something. So so Dre

852
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 7: just slid in and uh Griffy went and got us

853
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 7: a publishing deal, and we use that money to start

854
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 7: building the chronic work.

855
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: Take us aside that that process. So you wrote nothing

856
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: but a g Thing.

857
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 6: So I helped Snoop write nothing but a g thing.

858
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 7: Little ghetto Boy, Little ghetto Boy, lyrical gang bang, local

859
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 7: gang band, just ain't shit bit, just ain't shit with

860
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 7: a motherfucking gun with the motherfucker.

861
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that. That's one of the ones right there.

862
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 6: That the day the niggas took over.

863
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: Little Ghetto Boy twenty dout Sack Pyramid twenty outside Pyramid. Yeah,

864
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm in the money, get my wied, So I go

865
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: to the motherfucker slap me.

866
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 6: I remember.

867
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 7: Now, we was probably all the high hell, you know,

868
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 7: but I just remember how fun right that shit was.

869
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 6: It was so fun.

870
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 7: You get so caught up in that moment that and

871
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 7: it probably translates onto the tape because we was having

872
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 7: so much motherfucking fun. I was really in that moment, nigga.

873
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 7: I won, We won lee you know, yeah, bro, it

874
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 7: was just you know, it was a time you can

875
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 7: never forget. I'm so grateful and thank for the G

876
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 7: O D. For allowing me to be me. And even

877
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 7: with the path that I've had to walk, I wouldn't

878
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 7: I wouldn't want to be none of them niggas. I

879
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 7: want to be doctor because that nigga is the coldest.

880
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Hey doctor.

881
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: This is the personal question for me because this probably

882
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: this is probably one of my top three songs of

883
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: all time.

884
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: How did y'all feel? I mean, what vibe were y'all were?

885
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Y'all made? Look YETO boy, we.

886
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 7: Made that song that's as a you remember the riots

887
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 7: that we did that song. We were doing that song

888
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 7: during the riot.

889
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had to be some pain or something going

890
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: on for that song.

891
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 7: To be went out and looted during the riot. Now,

892
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 7: I told y'a I'm not a third. I was like,

893
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 7: I'm not going nowhere. Snoop was like, nigger, get your

894
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: ass in this car, and so I went through. And

895
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 7: it's the one day I was in California where none

896
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 7: of that game shit matter, didn't matter where you was at,

897
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 7: didn't matter what you had on you know, and and

898
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 7: that one day was probably the most beautiful motherfucking day

899
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: I've ever had in California.

900
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: They'll get a boy come out. That's crazy. That's that's

901
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: that's one of the ones. Yeah, that's one of the ones.

902
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: No question.

903
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Is it true that you did get did get paid,

904
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: didn't get paid for your death a writing?

905
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 6: Yeah?

906
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm going through it's all sudden to come back. Yeah, yeah,

907
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: but I'm going.

908
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 7: To because I probably spent it all by now. It

909
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 7: was some bullshit, wine, weed and women. But now I

910
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 7: got two sons that mean more to me than any

911
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 7: motherfucking record could ever mean. And and uh being a

912
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 7: great dad, it just means everything to me, Like those

913
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 7: are things that I missed as as a child, and

914
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna be that father for them.

915
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: You've spoken a lot, and both of y'all were speaking

916
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: off camera before this about obviously God's timing. He wasn't

917
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: ready for all that shit at that time. Right now

918
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: that it's come back and you've grown and and and

919
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: put prioritize your life and cleaned your life up, now

920
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: it's all coming back.

921
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 4: You're a firm believer on that.

922
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 7: I've always been a spiritual person. I know God, and

923
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 7: when he spoke to me, I know, you know, I

924
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 7: know that I'm here for a purpose. I don't fear

925
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 7: these niggas. I don't fear failure because it's not even

926
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 7: me doing it. Right, this conversation that you're having, you

927
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 7: think you're having it with me, You're not, you know

928
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: what I mean. And so even my city for work,

929
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 7: we as a city have never gotten an hour. We

930
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 7: never had our hour, you know what I mean? And

931
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 7: so good made me that guy, and so that time

932
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 7: is coming. I turned to twenty twenty six. Man, it's

933
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 7: coming to Dallas is one app and I'm going to

934
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 7: leave this city, you know, and put everything I got

935
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 7: into doing for this city and these young men that

936
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 7: I did for those guys out on the West coast.

937
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 7: And speaking of various a school that I am busting

938
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 7: my ass to build called the Dreams Experience Academy, Right,

939
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 7: I want to give these kids an opportunity to dream

940
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 7: the biggest dream you can dream. Let me help you

941
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 7: find that experience, and let me help you find a

942
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 7: lane to that as an occupation if that's what you choose,

943
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 7: or steam accredited courses so that coming from your homeschool

944
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 7: to this academy. You get these credits to go to

945
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 7: college if that's what you choose to do. But I'm

946
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 7: gonna get I'm gonna show you where the money at.

947
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 7: But to come to this thing, the first thing you

948
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 7: got to do is be at school. And the second

949
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 7: thing you have to do is exist in this circle

950
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 7: about three rules. That's no guns, no violence, no threats

951
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 7: of violence, because we building tomorrow today.

952
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 6: We're not waiting on nobody to.

953
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 7: Come give us our shit no more, because only we

954
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 7: know now. We're gonna build from the mud up, not

955
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 7: waiting from the top down. Because with all due respect

956
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 7: to the goat, you can't we can't wait for the

957
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 7: lebrons to feed those of us at the bottom. We

958
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 7: gotta start they're feeding ourselves and allow these guys to

959
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 7: catch up and put in on it. That means you

960
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 7: boys that's out there making that money, we got to

961
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 7: figure out a different way for you to deal with it.

962
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 7: The first thing we gotta do is quit all this killing.

963
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 7: I want you to get your weaponry because you might

964
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: need it, you know, but you're using it on the

965
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 7: wrong people source, you know. So it's just about us

966
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 7: getting hours shit together as a community and in valuing

967
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 7: our community the same way as others values veils and

968
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 7: start the process at home. And I'm a fun believer

969
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 7: that GLD put me into space to to talk to talk,

970
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 7: you know, because I still a nigga with attitude, if

971
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 7: you will, But my attitude changed a little bit.

972
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 3: I respect that so much because I can, I can

973
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 3: put a lot of that in my own life. You

974
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I was doing MYNVACA. I did

975
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 3: a lot of things I wasn't supposed to do. You

976
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I should have been a better

977
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: basketball player. I should have made a lot of small

978
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: decisions and I paid for it, you know what I'm saying.

979
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: But where I'm at.

980
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: Now, even with the George Floyd stuff, all the stuff

981
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 3: that's happening with our company, I never expected to be here,

982
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But my heart was right

983
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: the whole time. When I was making mistakes. I did

984
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: right by people.

985
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: You know. I was loyal to a fall a whole

986
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: bunch of times. And it's starting to come back.

987
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: Everything I lost, it's starting to come back to me

988
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: because I never felt like when it was bad, I

989
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: had to Okay.

990
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: I gotta do something to get out. I just sat

991
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: That's right. I just sat there and let God figure

992
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: it out for me.

993
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 3: So so I respect that so much because I've been

994
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: through that in my own life, So I respect that.

995
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 6: Patience, bro, Patience is the key.

996
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 7: And I'm sure it's a lot of young boys out

997
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 7: there with that same mentality you got, but they stuck

998
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: in that in the train.

999
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: That's moving already.

1000
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 7: Nobody's giving them an opportunity to get off. You can't

1001
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: just say stop and don't make no money. You got

1002
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 7: to show them where the money at. Like everybody else,

1003
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 7: they want to get paid. They want to be heard.

1004
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 7: They want to be acknowledged.

1005
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1006
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 7: They think that when they get out there and do

1007
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 7: what they do to get that paper, then that's their

1008
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 7: way of being heard. That's to be satisfying themselves.

1009
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 6: But I can show you.

1010
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 7: A better way, you know what I mean. And I'm

1011
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 7: not telling I stopped and don't make it.

1012
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 6: I'm talking about come over here.

1013
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 7: Let me let me put you in the game getting it.

1014
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 7: You know, not everybody's gonna take that bait, but I'm

1015
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 7: gonna get a whole lot more, probably than I lose.

1016
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: Your role in Doggie Style and seeing that album take off.

1017
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, by the time we got the Doggy Style, I

1018
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 7: was you know, I was just watching and being moral support.

1019
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 7: We had already went through all our lessons and so

1020
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 7: he was out of there. You know, I reserved a

1021
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 7: right to say I don't like that, you know, and

1022
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 7: maybe you'll change it, maybe you won't, you know, but.

1023
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 6: It was his time, and.

1024
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 7: That was my guy.

1025
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 6: I was so proud of him that man.

1026
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 7: I was just happy to be standing next to him

1027
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 7: when they did the up and smoke to her. They

1028
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 7: rode out in the low rider. I got to ride

1029
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 7: in the back seat.

1030
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: You know.

1031
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 7: Now, when g thing came out, I was in the

1032
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 7: front seat. They moved me to the back seat, but

1033
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 7: I was in the car and so up. Man, I

1034
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 7: was just proud of my guys, brou and still and

1035
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 7: still am.

1036
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1037
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 7: I love those guys. I worked for them same way

1038
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 7: they work from me. I have no expectations from from

1039
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 7: anybody for anything. I've had to listen to folks talk

1040
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 7: negatively about my guys because they think they got I'm

1041
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 7: supposed to have. But that's not I'm not any of

1042
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 7: those guys. Son, you know, my path is my path

1043
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 7: and jo he got me walking my way for a purpose.

1044
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 7: And so even if even if those wanted wanted to

1045
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 7: do something. And when you watch this movie, you'll see,

1046
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 7: like the one thing that you take away from this

1047
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 7: famousy the niggas love that dude, like they love this dude,

1048
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 7: all of them, you know what I mean. And it's

1049
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 7: it's parts in the movie where Erica and I are

1050
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 7: going back and forth and that shit have made. It'll

1051
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 7: bring tears to y'alls. Man, the way you can tell

1052
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 7: she loved that nigga man, you know, and he love

1053
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 7: her because they got this beautiful little baby girl together.

1054
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 7: And that's what it's all about. In fact, Erica and

1055
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 7: I love about a bond is so strong. When I

1056
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 7: was having my new kids, Erica was the doudler.

1057
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy, that's crazy.

1058
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 7: She delivered my son. She was the first, uh, the diggy,

1059
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 7: the youngest one that talks so much ship and it's

1060
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 7: probably because she was the first one to touch you.

1061
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 7: You know.

1062
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's dope, man, that's dope. That's dope.

1063
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: Drama we had with that, oh man.

1064
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 7: And I was talking to Puma, Puma and her mother

1065
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 7: or in Brazil, right now, Erica is doing something and

1066
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 7: Puma called me and she said, my mom, and I

1067
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 7: was just talking about you, talking about what a greater

1068
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 7: example of a man you are. And see, boy, don't

1069
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 7: get no better than that.

1070
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Don't get.

1071
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 7: Damn all that material ship right here is word counter

1072
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 7: most And when I'm not here anymore, they don't know that.

1073
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: Obviously, very big on God, and you've spoken to him

1074
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: throughout this interview. God put Erica in your in your

1075
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: life at the right time. Explain when that time was

1076
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: and how instrumental she was on helping you kind of

1077
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: find that light again.

1078
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 7: It's two thousand around that time, and Uh I was

1079
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 7: trying to find my way, still doing all of that bullshit,

1080
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 7: but Uh I was trying. I had I had. Uh

1081
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 7: They asked me to speak at at at the deal

1082
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 7: called the UH Hip Hop Summit in LA and I

1083
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 7: went and spoke and Russell was like, wow, bro, you

1084
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 7: you know you did that. I was like, I'd love

1085
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 7: for you to bring this to Dallas. You know we

1086
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 7: need this too. He was like, well, if you raise

1087
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 7: the money, I'll come. I raised the money and he came.

1088
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 7: He brought Run and and uh Kamora and all these

1089
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 7: folks during that time, and he told Erica to come

1090
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 7: to the summit. I hadn't seen her since we was kids,

1091
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 7: you know. She was skinny as that.

1092
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: So you've been on her.

1093
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, we've been knowing each other since we were fourteen fifteen.

1094
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

1095
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 7: She was a rapper two back in the early days,

1096
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 7: and we was. She had her and a girl named

1097
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 7: Killer TJ and me and the feeling first school and

1098
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 7: everybody at the skating ring and they wrapped clicks, you know.

1099
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 7: And she was just a skinny little always had some

1100
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 7: pretty odd though, but she was just a bean pole

1101
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 7: back then.

1102
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 6: But shit, by the time they ha Propa.

1103
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 7: Suddenly came shit filled all the way out and I

1104
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 7: was seeing her and I was like, damn you grown

1105
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 7: up man. We connected and we started hanging out, driving

1106
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 7: around the city, just reminiscing on those times as kids.

1107
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 7: We had both kind of made it after the hood

1108
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 7: and developed a bond and you know how things go.

1109
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: She from DW two, yeah, South Doublast, South Dayliss from

1110
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: South Dallas something from West Doublets and she.

1111
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 6: Did that thing.

1112
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 7: Put it on me, y'all.

1113
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: Never did any news together, no, no, never thought about it,

1114
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: never talked about it. Now.

1115
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 7: See I'm a smart man. I know where to go

1116
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 7: and where not to go. Erica is what she says.

1117
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 7: She's sensitive about her all ship.

1118
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm sensitive about my ship.

1119
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 6: So leave her alone.

1120
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, she asked, Man, it's all good.

1121
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 6: I love it, you know.

1122
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 7: And I started trying to push Puma, who was so talented,

1123
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 7: but hon no mother, you know they yeah, So I

1124
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 7: leave that alone. I wait till they come to ask

1125
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 7: if they ass I'm ready. But this documentary now one

1126
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 7: that wants a record, and so I'd like to put

1127
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 7: together a record like Dray did for the Company movie

1128
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 7: that's inspired by and didn't have everybody that was in

1129
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 7: the participation. So that would mean something from Puma and

1130
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 7: something from Erica. Maybe we could all do something together

1131
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 7: that'd beautiful. And for the fans out there, don't worry.

1132
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 7: I already asked him to put the ask in for us.

1133
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 7: Hopefully we get Eric on the show, miss please please?

1134
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 6: Yeah you got that.

1135
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: Were you there when Dre first heard of eminem?

1136
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 7: I wasn't there when he first heard it. Drey and I,

1137
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 7: you know, brothers, they they love hard, they wore hard.

1138
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 7: So when we get into it, we get into it,

1139
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 7: and so it was during one of our breaks that

1140
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 7: he found him. Uh, but he started working on two

1141
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 7: thousand and one record. He reached out to me and said, uh,

1142
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 7: you know, I need jail. And it had been you know,

1143
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 7: three four years, so I was I asked my bullshit,

1144
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 7: and you usually Drake calls I'm just gonna jump on

1145
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 7: the bird. And I went out there and he said,

1146
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 7: I want you to hear something. He played this a

1147
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 7: song called I Just Don't give a Fuck, and I

1148
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 7: was like, wow, this motherfucker's off the chain.

1149
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 6: He reminds me of that early.

1150
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 7: Music he was making because his subject matter is so

1151
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 7: throwed off. Jeff's like, yeah, I think he's dope. I said, hell, yeah,

1152
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 7: he's dope. You gotta fuck with this kid. He's like, look, well,

1153
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 7: let me show you a picture of it. And then

1154
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 7: he brought the picture in a little eight by ten

1155
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 7: and he looked more like a you know, an actor

1156
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 7: or some shit. To the rapper who was his white boy,

1157
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 7: you know, he's like, that's him. I was like, wow,

1158
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 7: that motherfucker's off the chain. I'm a purist in the

1159
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 7: form that I just like dope shit. I wouldn't give

1160
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 7: fuck who you are. I wouldn't give a fuck if

1161
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 7: you was red, black, green, purple, or orange, if you dope,

1162
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 7: and if you're not dope, I wouldn't give a if

1163
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 7: you was red rap, you know what I mean. But

1164
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 7: eminem is one of the great one of the greats

1165
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 7: in this music and and you can't take that away

1166
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 7: from it.

1167
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: What is How does it make you feel though that

1168
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 4: he really looked up to you a lot?

1169
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 7: Though well I was pretty good. You know I would

1170
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 7: have looked up to me too. I take it as

1171
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 7: a blessing, you know that that that God let me

1172
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 7: live long enough to understand I made the impact, even

1173
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 7: even to be you know, on uh on this platform

1174
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 7: with you guys today. Man ship means something to me.

1175
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 7: Like I said, it's a full super moment. It may

1176
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 7: not mean, it may not be a lot to others,

1177
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 7: but it means a lot to me. So when you

1178
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 7: call stack man, I was like what I once and

1179
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 7: got me a hair cut this morning. That's probably.

1180
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 6: That's why I look like zz top.

1181
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 7: My bob.

1182
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 6: He said, I'm gonna blow you out.

1183
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 7: It'll curve back up when I put some wine on

1184
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 7: it back up.

1185
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1186
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 7: But yeah, man, I'm I'm really appreciative to you boys.

1187
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 7: I highly respect you just because of the men you are.

1188
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 7: I follow in your path as fathers, you know, and

1189
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 7: uh and and I applaud you for being great, great

1190
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 7: black men in this culture.

1191
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: That I appreciate it. And Netflix, man, thank y'all.

1192
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 6: Netflix, the movie bell out in the minute now I

1193
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 6: let my.

1194
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: Peoples, Yes, sir, We're gonna help you connect them down.

1195
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, let me ask you this, when you heard

1196
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: Dre's verse, and what's the difference between me and you.

1197
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: Did? What emotions did that take you through?

1198
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 7: I don't think I made my way through it yet. Yeah,

1199
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 7: so I was still just drunk.

1200
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: He meant that though, when he said I love you Doc,

1201
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: you can hear you can hear it in Dre's Boys

1202
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: like you mean he meaning old.

1203
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1204
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1205
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 7: Eminem wrote that song, yeah, but Dre delivered it. Yeah yeah,

1206
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 7: and it's true to like shit, Man, I know Dre

1207
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 7: loved me. Yeah, I don't question that at all. He's

1208
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 7: a big brother, you know, and he's gonna act like

1209
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 7: a big brother. That means what I say in the

1210
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 7: movie is he watched me fall. He helped me get

1211
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 7: back up. Yeah, he watched me fall. He helped me

1212
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 7: get back up. You know, that's what the brother's supposed

1213
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 7: to do. That's right. And so whenever he called, I'm

1214
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 7: gonna go, you know what I mean. And I'm respectful

1215
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 7: of his position of his cachet. But like I said,

1216
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 7: when I went up there and to get that that signature,

1217
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 7: that release for this film, I don't take it lightly

1218
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 7: because this this is virtually a billionaire signing his name

1219
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 7: on the dotted line. And anybody in our business know,

1220
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 7: you don't take that lightly, you know, because anything could

1221
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 7: be in that that paperwork. Now you old this motherfucker

1222
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 7: this and he didn't know and that you know. And

1223
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 7: so I got so much respect for both my brothers,

1224
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 7: for all of them out there, and my sister and

1225
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 7: Joel's my sister rest in peace. We was a real

1226
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 7: family and we made to music that that that will

1227
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 7: be here alone in the world, change.

1228
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 4: The world with your music.

1229
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: You have a relationship with Answer Pact, Yeah, talk about it.

1230
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 4: He's so dope.

1231
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: It it's called He's one of the great ones. Bro.

1232
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 7: I remember it is a guy named Adrian. He brought

1233
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 7: Innocent to the studio and it was it was just

1234
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 7: a parent that he had that thing. He played a

1235
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 7: song oddly't know about being a pimp, and I loved it.

1236
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 7: You know, he's way over here from that, but you

1237
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 7: could tell in his writing that he just had that it.

1238
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 7: And and Dre's far from stupid.

1239
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: And he had fun with his music as Pack had

1240
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: fun with his music.

1241
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 7: If you show Dre the ship, he will snatch it

1242
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 7: up quickly. But Dre's been blessed with seconds.

1243
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 6: He started out with.

1244
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 7: Cube and then me and then Snoopy and then him

1245
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 7: and then fifty like he got blessed with and the

1246
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 7: hitters all the way through his ride. And so I'm

1247
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 7: just blessed to be on their list.

1248
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Is hip hop in a good place now?

1249
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 7: I think it's evolving to a good place. Yeah, Yeah,

1250
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 7: I'm with you. Yeah, I think that's what's going on

1251
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 7: right now. I think a lot of the stuff that's

1252
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 7: going on in the world today it's sort of precipitating

1253
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 7: that that that that that shit is dead.

1254
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1255
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 7: Uh, folks is getting in trouble, and folks is worried

1256
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 7: about whether they're gonna be into It's just time for

1257
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 7: some life. Enough for that death ship. Yeah, it's time

1258
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 7: for some life ship, you know. That's that's what I'm

1259
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 7: enough of the death ship. It's time for some life, yeah, bro,

1260
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 7: for real, for real, because uh, you can say that

1261
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 7: you are speaking life and to your children when you

1262
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 7: talk to them. But your children are no different than

1263
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 7: you were when you were a child. You know, you

1264
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 7: didn't listen to what they said. You watch what they did,

1265
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 7: and you want to do what they did. You know,

1266
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 7: so you can tell me that you're on the TV

1267
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 7: doing all this wild ship and he ain't go home

1268
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 7: and tell your child some good ship. The child was

1269
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 7: watching the wild ship and aspiring to do that. When

1270
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 7: Puma decided she wanted to allow a male suitor to

1271
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 7: uh to come into her space, she made sure that

1272
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 7: she brought the man around the young man around me

1273
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 7: to meet me. That was number one sign I did

1274
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 7: a good job. So I took him to this restaurant

1275
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 7: called the Tower Club downtown. So on the forty first floor,

1276
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 7: got us a nice table by the window.

1277
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: I told him that ship, I already know what this

1278
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 4: is going boy, playing and just telling.

1279
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 7: Him to take a look down. That's how that's that's

1280
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 7: that's how far I had to fall to find myself.

1281
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 7: You don't want to follow that far, you know, so

1282
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 7: tread lightly. But to her credit, the young man was

1283
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 7: a lot like me. Humble guy, got a squad but

1284
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 7: would rather not, you know. And it's and it's it's

1285
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 7: good enough to my baby that he knows when to

1286
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 7: talk and when not to. You know, man, he he

1287
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 7: he handle us her like I did. Her mother, or

1288
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 7: should I say, allows her to handle him the way

1289
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 7: I allowed I do.

1290
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 6: You know, handled me? You know, had me being a

1291
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 6: vegan for two years.

1292
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: I remember that, you know.

1293
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 6: And then my grandmother said.

1294
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 7: No, sir, come back.

1295
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, gotta let.

1296
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: Jack chicken or something.

1297
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 4: Jack's on the way to come back and eating bacon.

1298
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: So again again in life.

1299
01:08:53,200 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 9: Some shrimps, crimpscrim first thing I came back, ri scrimps.

1300
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 6: That's up?

1301
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: Mmm right?

1302
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 7: And my grandmother, God rest her soul, Miss Hattie Henderson.

1303
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: What was grandma go to?

1304
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 5: This?

1305
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 6: Beans?

1306
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: Which one is limod? Okay?

1307
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 7: Did you why whatever? She cood?

1308
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? Them good white beans.

1309
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 7: Now that's how I knew Araca because folks were saying, man,

1310
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 7: that girl like you. I was like, niggad, y'all don't

1311
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 7: like me. We just we have a thing and we anything.

1312
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 7: But I went out of town. And while I was

1313
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 7: going out of town that she went over at my

1314
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 7: grandmother's house. She made my grandmother famous in the projects.

1315
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 7: And uh, my grandmother said, I like that girl. I

1316
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 7: knew then, you know, Okay, there's something else going on.

1317
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm all like her.

1318
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, well she went over at my grandmother house. I

1319
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 6: didn't tell her to do that. Yeah, why are you

1320
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 6: going over my grandmother's house.

1321
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 7: She was expressing ourself to me in a way that

1322
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 7: she knew I would understand.

1323
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 6: Because of cold broken nigga down.

1324
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you needed it though, Yeah, indeed.

1325
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 7: Jo d thing man, And she's a very spiritual person.

1326
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 7: I needed that.

1327
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 6: Uh, and she's it.

1328
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 7: I quit drinking and and doing all the other ship

1329
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 7: because her, because she gave me this little baby. And uh,

1330
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 7: I was talking about put my earlier. You know how

1331
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 7: little girl do you?

1332
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 9: Man?

1333
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 7: She loved me so motherfucking hard that I had to

1334
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 7: be like, well, ship, let me get my shit together

1335
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 7: around the girls will do it to you.

1336
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 4: Bro quick hitter is first thing to come to mind.

1337
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 4: Let us know. Top five lyricists in your opinion, it's

1338
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 4: a lot of them. What's your list?

1339
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 7: And I don't want to disrespect nobody. Rob Kim is

1340
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 7: a guy that that I revere cause he's the guy

1341
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 7: that kind of set me on the path.

1342
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: That it that would make me meet y'all have a relationship.

1343
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yep mm cal rest cool G.

1344
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: Cool G slip rick heavyence that that's why I came

1345
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: up and I and I could stay out of trouble.

1346
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1347
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 7: If I do it like that, yeah, cause it i'd

1348
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 7: have to say cube, I'd have to say snoop.

1349
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 4: The other side, I'd give him and them a.

1350
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 7: Lot of credit for being one of the greatest. The

1351
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 7: guy from the Wall that a's the young man Wayne

1352
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 7: Lil Wayne. Yeah, I give him a lot of credit

1353
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 7: for being great. Three thousand. I give him a lot

1354
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 7: of credit for being great.

1355
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: Give me three from Texas PIMC.

1356
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 7: You know my guy six y two, Scarface, it's it's

1357
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 7: uh from volte Worth. He never got a chance for

1358
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 7: his life the time, but he's back at it. And

1359
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 7: and of course mister mister scarface, you know, and I

1360
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 7: talked to scar Face all the time. I chest talked

1361
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 7: to him not too long ago.

1362
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 4: How he doing.

1363
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 7: Somebody said he just went to another thing.

1364
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: He good do. I talked to him.

1365
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, he wanted to hear from you, so I called

1366
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 7: him and then I called him and the nurse walked

1367
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 7: in the room and he said, I'm gonna call you back, nigga,

1368
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 7: never call it, so I know he got yeah.

1369
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked to him. If you have to choose

1370
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 3: one album to play on repeat, what would it.

1371
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 6: Be the chronic.

1372
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 7: Because you can't miss those was the days. But we're

1373
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 7: in a different day now. We're in a different time.

1374
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 7: Even speaking to the boxing it's a different time now,

1375
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 7: like Bronnie being in the league, it's a different time.

1376
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 7: My youngest son, when Briannie was coming on TV, it

1377
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 7: was must mussy, you know what I man. So that's

1378
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 7: what we are. That's one of the reasons why I

1379
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 7: revere Lebron so much that he that he paved that

1380
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 7: way and made that move for his seed and got

1381
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 7: on the court with him and Bob. If he'd made

1382
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 7: that first three, that would have been a moment.

1383
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 6: But you know, I love.

1384
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 7: These guys for being great and powerful men. That Lebron

1385
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 7: went back and did so much for his community. But

1386
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 7: there's so many of you cats out there doing that nobody.

1387
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 7: They never hear about that. They never they never tell

1388
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,879
Speaker 7: you about what what Westbrook did during Oklahoma.

1389
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 6: You don't hear about that, you know.

1390
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 7: And so it isn't coming upon us to start being

1391
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 7: blowing the whistle for us, because they're not gonna do it.

1392
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 7: There you go, and I tell these boys in the hood,

1393
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 7: it isn't coming upon you to change his hood. You

1394
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 7: got the money, you just spend half million dollars. If

1395
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 7: I stood three of you boys up, all three of

1396
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 7: you boys, and spent the half million dollars each on

1397
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 7: a bunch of gold and diamonds that claim that when

1398
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 7: they see in the street they number one.

1399
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: They want to take it from you.

1400
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,919
Speaker 7: But you could have put that one point five together

1401
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 7: and got.

1402
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: You a house.

1403
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 7: One hundred acres right down this freeway, developed your own community.

1404
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 7: You could have developed your own because we are way

1405
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 7: past the time of uh black Wall Street won't be

1406
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 7: any more of those, you know.

1407
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 6: We we passed those.

1408
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 7: Times because we going down with it now because they

1409
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 7: hold them to choppers now.

1410
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: So you know.

1411
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 7: Now, but you gotta begin it to consolidate. You have

1412
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 7: to begin to think in those terms. Not that I

1413
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 7: anticipate anything, because it's a good thing, but it is

1414
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 7: written the last to be first, first to be last.

1415
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 7: Your time is coming, so you must prepare for it.

1416
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: You've been around a lot of great people, dead and alive.

1417
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 4: You plus five and the dinner table, dead or alive.

1418
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 7: Marvin, Yeah, sure, Biggie, Doctor King, Brother Malcolm.

1419
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: You got any Biggie stories? No.

1420
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 6: I met Biggie once.

1421
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 7: Like, I was really mad at Biggie when he first

1422
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 7: came out because I felt like he was taking my spots.

1423
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 7: After the wreck and everything, I still thought I was

1424
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 7: better than everybody.

1425
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 6: But when he came out, he was just.

1426
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 7: So good. And I met him at met him in Chicago.

1427
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 7: He was doing the show and uh Buff was there,

1428
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 7: and Craig Mac was there him and Craig Mac was

1429
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 7: doing the show and uh Puff came and said, Biggie

1430
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 7: like to meet you. Man with you Comma and I

1431
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 7: and I went over there and he asked me if

1432
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 7: he could take a picture with me. He was so

1433
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 7: fucking humble it it made I became an instant fan.

1434
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 7: It's hard to he can't hate on the niggas. That's

1435
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 7: that's just a good guy, you know it. It wasn't

1436
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 7: his fault that I fucked up, and you know, uh

1437
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 7: we could have battled for it, but he was killing

1438
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 7: the game. Bro, Biggie's in my line, you know what.

1439
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 7: I man, He's one of them dudes that swing like

1440
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 7: I swan and his word play was was intricate like mine.

1441
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 7: And you know, I just loved him. I was a

1442
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 7: Biggi guy more than the part guy, cause I'm I'm

1443
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,879
Speaker 7: a guy that really gets into writing and the lyrics

1444
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 7: and the word play and how you spit it, you know,

1445
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 7: And I just thought he was just the greatest what's

1446
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 7: your guilty pleasure? I don't have one anymore? My children

1447
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 7: lay in two K with my.

1448
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: Son be talking too much shit and he talks.

1449
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 6: To way too much. Ship you up to beat on

1450
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 6: his chest.

1451
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 7: I mean my dollars you losing.

1452
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm trash.

1453
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm trashy two K. I ain't play two K. What

1454
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 3: figure in hip hop will be a great boxer?

1455
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 7: Well, Bri, I ain't been. I ain't been around enough cats. No,

1456
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 7: but dra got hands like a motherfucker mann what and

1457
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 7: with throw them things and drop over dye and matter

1458
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 7: of fact, like when I go when I go to

1459
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 7: l A, I never go out never go places dangerous

1460
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 7: out there. If I go, I go with Dre number one.

1461
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 7: He's gonna have plenty of security around number two. If

1462
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 7: they step out of me, gonna tell they hair.

1463
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got a good little I think he's involved

1464
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 2: in this. A new steakhouse in the valley called Boulevard. Okay,

1465
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 2: it is five. You gotta check it out.

1466
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 6: He's animal business man.

1467
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could see one guest on our show,

1468
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 3: who would it be? But you have to help us

1469
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 3: get your answer on our show.

1470
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 7: Well you're not ready ask me. Yeah, I'm gonna put

1471
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 7: that word.

1472
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: In thank you appreciate it. Bro Yes, sir, yes, sir.

1473
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: When I think of one line of one album people

1474
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 3: one album, and that is timeless. The only people I

1475
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: can think of are you and Lauren Hill with just

1476
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: one album. There's just timeless all this time. Still listen

1477
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: to it, Still want to see you'll perform, Still want

1478
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: to hear it, Like I can only think of you

1479
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 3: and Lauren Hill.

1480
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 6: It's a blessing. Yeah, it's a.

1481
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 1: Lot of Lauren Hill album.

1482
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 7: No pleasing about it, mis education, Come on, Brod's showing out.

1483
01:18:55,479 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 7: It's a lot of folks out there. When out when

1484
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 7: the Reg happened eleven eleven. I was supposed to be.

1485
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 7: I was on tour with Ice Tea and mc lighting

1486
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,879
Speaker 7: and Slick Reg and all these people. The tours started

1487
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 7: eleven seventeen, so I never got a chance to go

1488
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 7: out on the road with that record.

1489
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 6: And but Ice Tea tells.

1490
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 7: Me a story that it was his It was his

1491
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 7: job to go out on stage and tell folks that

1492
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 7: I wasn't coming because of the wreck. He said, Man,

1493
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 7: you could hear the emotion. You could feel that shit

1494
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 7: when folks heard what had happened. And they still ribbing

1495
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 7: with me to this day.

1496
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 6: Bro, Like.

1497
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 7: They don't give a damn about the voice, They just

1498
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 7: want to hear it. But it's creating. Art comes from

1499
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 7: inside and if you don't feel it, it's hard to

1500
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 7: get it out. But I say, you know, twenty twenty

1501
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 7: twenty five is going to be a great year for

1502
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 7: West Coast here.

1503
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait.

1504
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: We just want to thank you man for your time

1505
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: in what you've meant to the culture, what you meant

1506
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 2: to us, and getting a giving us another opportunity to

1507
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: get a chance to know you want a deeper level,

1508
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: and we firmly believe that all the great things ahead

1509
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: of your way, man, So we're going to be praying

1510
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 2: for you and only a phone call away.

1511
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: Man. One last question. I just thought of it.

1512
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1513
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,879
Speaker 1: We had him on the show recently, Larry Johnson, you knowing.

1514
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 7: Ljay Hell yeah, Grandmama yeah, yeah.

1515
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: Y'all know other well yeah yeah, he went to Scotland.

1516
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he was our first big one.

1517
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, big fit.

1518
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 7: He's still you know, great love it yeah.

1519
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: Sir, yeah yeah.

1520
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, we got a gift

1521
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: for you, first ever podcast coffee table book with all

1522
01:20:58,920 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 2: of our guests.

1523
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 5: Uh.

1524
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 4: Book number two will definitely have you with it. Of course.

1525
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 4: This is good to take home man.

1526
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1527
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 6: Man, we appreciate you saying it.

1528
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 7: Get all the smoke, even though I don't smoke no more.

1529
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: What's smoking up? What's smoking enough for you?

1530
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: He does, so she can pull up and blow with us.

1531
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 7: Snoop said, you'll be back.

1532
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 6: Thank you, brother.

1533
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 4: We appreciateiation.

1534
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 8: Mhm mm hmmmm

1535
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm