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Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the

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Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country and

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Speaker 1: there Welcome Inside Inside the Draft. We're back for another week.

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Speaker 1: This is our weekly look at the upcoming NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: at the end of April. For the Colts. I'm Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you, coming to you here at

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Speaker 1: the moment from inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: As you know, the Colts currently sitting number four overall

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Speaker 1: in the draft packing order with about a month and

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Speaker 1: a half left before the big weekend at the end

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Speaker 1: of April. Last week, very busy week for us and

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Speaker 1: all of the NFL the Combine where we sat down

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Speaker 1: with several NFL Draft insiders, including our conversation we're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring you today with Ryan Wilson from CBS. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the best NFL insiders in the biz and he

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Speaker 1: was nice enough to give us some of his time

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Speaker 1: last week on radio row at the Combined inside the

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Speaker 1: Convention Center. So without further ado, here's Ryan Wilson from

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Speaker 1: CBS on the Draft with myself and Casey Valier at

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three NFL Combined on inside the draft.

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Speaker 1: Always a great pleasure to be with one of our favorites.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Wilson, NFL, NFL Draft Analysts, CBS Sports, CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: dot Com. The Pick six podcast, which is what I love.

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Speaker 1: That's daily, right, well, it's daily, and Matt, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you brought that because now I work with Rick Spielman,

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Speaker 1: the longtime Viking central manager. We do a podcast, a

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Speaker 1: draft podcast called with the First Pick, so that sort

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Speaker 1: of splits times with Pick six and during this part

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Speaker 1: of the draft the NFL calendar. So that's been fun.

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Speaker 1: Spielman's a great guy. Yea. He knows so much about

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Speaker 1: everything and it's been been a joy to work with him.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, incredibly gracious, also something of a buster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so he'll give you the business. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: give it back to him and then you get on

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, what have you learned from him

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Speaker 1: in terms of GMing if you will? Oh no. So

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Speaker 1: it's been so incredibly informative. And I say all the time,

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Speaker 1: like we everybody a draft podcast, and many of them

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Speaker 1: are really really good. The difference is that there's one

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Speaker 1: draft podcast where you have a former general manager who

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Speaker 1: for ten years who had draft picks like Harrison Smith

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Speaker 1: to him, has no interest in going back in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's sort of embracing this media things. So he will

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Speaker 1: talk about literally anything. Yeah, the very one I will

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Speaker 1: say it. He would tell you the same thing, the

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Speaker 1: one thing he wouldn't talk about. And it took me

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Speaker 1: a second to cashie. We were driving around Mobile at

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl a few weeks ago, and George Peyton

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Speaker 1: has been his right hand man forever. He and George

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Speaker 1: an incredibly close George. He brought George with everywhere he goes.

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Speaker 1: Georgeatown the general manager of Denver. And when we were

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Speaker 1: in Mobile, Sean Payton got hired to help Russ Wilson

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Speaker 1: among other things, obviously, and I totally didn't think about

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Speaker 1: the George and Rick connection. I said, so, Rick, what

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Speaker 1: do you think is Sean gonna be able to pick

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Speaker 1: fix Russ? And he will talk about anything to the

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Speaker 1: last podcast, I asked him specifically. And this is almost

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Speaker 1: this is fitting given the Jalen Carter development. I said,

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Speaker 1: when Laramie Tonsil that video came out of Larry Tonsil

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Speaker 1: with smoke. Not a good look moments before you go

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Speaker 1: before your biggest job interview in the world. One of

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Speaker 1: the best players in that draft class would have been

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Speaker 1: probably a top five pick. I think he slipped a thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to check where the Dolphins took them. I

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Speaker 1: have so many name flick around my head at this point. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but I said to Rick, I said, Okay, you're in

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Speaker 1: with Tonzl and just speaking in generalities because he's had

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Speaker 1: not think about the larger ramifications. And Rick provides that

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Speaker 1: insight that's great stuff. Well, what does Rick and yourself

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Speaker 1: think then about a cult situation? I know in your

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Speaker 1: latest mock draft you're predicting all of these things, including trades.

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Speaker 1: You've got the cults going up to number one. Why

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Speaker 1: he's actually got unfairly gotten some pushback about how the

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Speaker 1: the Jeff Saturday thing feels like the blip on the radar.

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Speaker 1: One plays inside and one doesn't. You're not putting Bryce

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Speaker 1: will not believe. You do not believe how smart this

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Speaker 1: take it one further than Rick. We talked to Will

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Speaker 1: about Bryce Young. He said, Bryce Young plays in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen on day one. And Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: do the math. Right, Okay, this guy's a otherworldly talent,

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Speaker 1: but he's a pain off the field. No such issues

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, you just made, you know, a very good

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Speaker 1: But how far is that difference? It's not stark, there

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I always enjoy your work and

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Speaker 1: appreciate talking to you here at the combined Ryan. That's

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