WEBVTT - NFL REPORT: Free Agency & Getting to Know 2024 Draft Class

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Terry Fao, general manager of the Atlanta Falcons, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Terry's working his tail off right now, getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the combine and the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>And Steve, what is Wait a minute, you look like

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<v Speaker 3>you're in a press box right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Where Steve?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in a press box of at Yeoman Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>on the campus of Tulayne University watching practices for the

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<v Speaker 1>HBCU Legacy Bowl, which will air Saturday, four pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>on NFL Network. Met Bucky Brooks, Sherry Burris, and Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Davis on the call, top one hundred draft LGI players

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<v Speaker 1>from HBCUs. It's always a great week, JP, But I

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<v Speaker 1>got good WiFi in here too. These pictures have been

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<v Speaker 1>real clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you look great. You look great. You know who's

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<v Speaker 3>also in that press box you mentioned him? Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna join us talking about some deepest part of

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<v Speaker 2>the draft, maybe some specific positions that some teams might

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<v Speaker 2>be intrigued by. We're also going to have Saints head

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<v Speaker 2>coach Dennis Allen join the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Also NFL Network insider Tom Pelisara joins his talk franchise

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<v Speaker 2>tags and a couple of quarterbacks and Kirk Cousins and

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<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield. But let's start off with Justin Fields, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not saying that solely. You know, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>connect Terry Fontnou to introduce this show to Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 2>because we do know that's a potential landing spot that

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<v Speaker 2>some teams are trying to connect. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>best fit for Justin Fields. And I say this Steve

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<v Speaker 2>specifically because to my understanding, the Bears are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>finalizing in this week. They're kind of their their mindset

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<v Speaker 2>on what they want to do at the quarterback position,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when they get to Indianapolis, probably a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of discussions will be had about what teams would be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in Justin Fields that started amobile, and we'll continue

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<v Speaker 2>in possible landing spots that he could wind up in.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that said, and on the you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days before the combine, what's the best fit

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<v Speaker 2>for Justin Field, Steve?

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<v Speaker 1>It's first off, Jap isn't interesting how the conversation is

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<v Speaker 1>really no longer the Bears retaining Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that seems like the ship is sales.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, We really don't know, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>that the conversation has swung so much to them using

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<v Speaker 1>that number one pick on Caleb Williams' quarterback that Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Fields has gone. So to answer your question, it's not Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the Las Vegas Raiders for his.

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<v Speaker 5>Former law.

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<v Speaker 4>Gets he takes over. But here's why I think he's

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<v Speaker 4>a great fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at what their offense is, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he comes into their quarterback. They've got I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring back Josh Jacobs so they can have a

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<v Speaker 1>dual threat run game. They've got a pretty good offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line there. They've got DeVante Adams, They've got some players.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a tight end, right, They've got Meyer, They've

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<v Speaker 1>got some players he can get the ball to.

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<v Speaker 4>They're a physical club. Plus all of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those great offensive head coaches in that division, Jim harbaughch

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<v Speaker 1>On Peyton, Andy Reid, they haven't had to defend a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback like Justin Fields. I think he could go there,

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<v Speaker 1>and in a division where Antonio Pierce the only defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coach facing some of the greatest coaches that we have

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<v Speaker 1>seen in modern football having somebody like him to confuse

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<v Speaker 1>them to hold the ball and have explosive play potential.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I think he's a raider all day. Fits

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<v Speaker 1>the culture. I could see him smoking a cigar with

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<v Speaker 1>Max Crosby and AP. I think that's the perfect fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a various It also like rich Gangarillo joining

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<v Speaker 2>that staff, who maybe an underrated developer of quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 2>this league, is very, very talented in terms of working

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<v Speaker 2>with quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>I just look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh and I look at Atlanta, and I look at

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<v Speaker 2>the skill position players that would be around, justin fields.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of guys like you know, George Pickens goes

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<v Speaker 2>up and gets ball, Steve right he goes up and

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<v Speaker 2>gets balls that are fifty to fifty type of balls.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think that those guys exist in Atlanta as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm curious about this process and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>add this more than just a typical landing spot. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a crazy stat sent to us by our research department.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bears had a ten or more point lead in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter in eight games this season. They lost

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<v Speaker 2>three of those. Nobody else really lost more than one

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<v Speaker 2>game that had that type of lead. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what the league considers if this is on Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback, or if this is on the situation in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the worst passer rating in football in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter amongst qualified passers. So I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>how this evaluation evolves. Because the guy hasn't been dealt

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest of hands in Chicago. He is actually extremely

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<v Speaker 2>well liked by the front office and the people within

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<v Speaker 2>that locker room. I want to know if they want

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<v Speaker 2>to do him a solid Steve, do they want to

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<v Speaker 2>send him to a decent location.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm curious about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that's a great point, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you trade away somebody who is a good player or

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<v Speaker 1>who has those types of feelings, you want to trade

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<v Speaker 1>him to a situation where he could possibly succeed. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to what he said, is

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation about the Steelers continues to intrigue me because

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Smith, he was the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons,

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<v Speaker 1>wanted no parts of Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 4>He had the possibility to draft him, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Took Kyle Pitts. We asked Terry Fondo. This last week

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<v Speaker 1>they took Kyle Pitts, a tight end. They bypassed Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>Why all of a sudden with the head coach who

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<v Speaker 1>designs the offense take a liking to Justin Field. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why this conversation when I hear the Steelers and Arthur Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Ougho'd be a perfect fit. Why Arthur Smith didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>him once? Why would he want him right now? It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that that linking, I may be completely off base.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see I don't see that link. Real quick, JP,

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<v Speaker 1>since we're talking about Chicago Bears with the number one pick,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly you're likely using it on quarterback Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>A number two sets to Washington Commanders.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they are going to be more draft day ballers.

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<v Speaker 4>Than the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've got the potential to move from two

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<v Speaker 1>to four, still, get the quarterback that they want, pink

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<v Speaker 1>up some extra picks, They've got cap space to add

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<v Speaker 1>people in free agency.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, that is the team to watch with the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the draft really starts, because I think they've

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<v Speaker 1>got some pieces and they've got.

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<v Speaker 4>Some time there.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a grace period to put things in place.

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<v Speaker 1>Where that's going to be the big mover all around

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<v Speaker 1>the early part of the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, Steve, if they're the ones grabbing all the attention,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nervous for Ryan Poles. I'm nervous if he gets

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<v Speaker 2>overshadowed with what he has set up leading into this draft.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think the Fields trade actually happened sooner rather

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<v Speaker 2>than later. They'd like that to happen. There's more teams

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<v Speaker 2>that need a quarterback now than when it gets closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the draft. I think that's plays with this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you're right. I think number two is

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<v Speaker 2>where the draft starts. Because everybody's assuming it's Kayleb Williams

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<v Speaker 2>at number one that's locked in. It's gonna take a

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<v Speaker 2>historic Hall, as Ian Rappaport reports. So number two seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be the start of the draft, but at number

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<v Speaker 2>nine is also the Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm fascinated by this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought process that you have to where it could be

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington Commanders hurting all the heads as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fascinated to see what happens. But that's why you

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<v Speaker 3>went and got Adam Peters, right, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, and was he Adam Peters. He's wheeling and

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<v Speaker 1>dealing before before the draft when it comes to those

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<v Speaker 1>types of picks when he was with the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see if he does it again, you know what, Jap.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back after the break, we've got Saints

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<v Speaker 1>coach Dennis Allen. They are revamping their with a new coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>a new scheme. We're gonna talk to him about that

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<v Speaker 1>and how that affects Derek Carr when we're back on

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Report, roll.

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<v Speaker 1>Report and JP, I am so looking forward to this

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<v Speaker 1>because we are now joined by New Orleans Saints head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Dennis Allen.

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<v Speaker 4>I've known DA way back. Gosh, it's been about fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>We go back DA back to Atlanta, and first off,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us, but we want to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on because this has been such an eventful off season

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of changing of your coaching staff. On the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side, you hire Clint Kubiak as your offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of what went into that and what are

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<v Speaker 1>you expecting now for your offense?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it going to be a radical.

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<v Speaker 1>Change or do something you think fits philosophically what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do with this team.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, look, obviously, we went through an extensive search

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<v Speaker 6>in terms of interview and a lot of people for

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<v Speaker 6>this position. I think we I think we interviewed eleven

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<v Speaker 6>or twelve offensive coordinator candidates, a lot of really qualified guys.

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<v Speaker 6>I felt like, you know, we really needed to do

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<v Speaker 6>a deep dive into a lot of different schemes and

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of different personalities.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to really look at.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, what was going to be the best fit

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<v Speaker 6>for the New Orleans Saints, for our players that we

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<v Speaker 6>have here, and the things that we need to try

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<v Speaker 6>to get accomplished.

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<v Speaker 7>And I felt like Clint Kubiak was.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously the the person of choice. And I've known Clint

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<v Speaker 6>for a long time. I feel like I've known the

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<v Speaker 6>family for you know, probably over twenty thirty years. I

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<v Speaker 6>remember watching Clint's dad, Gary play quarterback back at Texas

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<v Speaker 6>A and m you know, growing up. So I feel

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<v Speaker 6>like I fe I've known this family. I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I've known this scheme for a long time and and

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<v Speaker 6>and I feel like this is the best scheme that

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<v Speaker 6>gives your players the best chance to have success that's

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<v Speaker 6>going in the National Football League right now. And and UH,

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<v Speaker 6>I think Clint is highly intelligent. UH, he's extremely hard worker.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we've put together an outstanding UH staff with

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a mixture of some older veteran

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<v Speaker 6>coaches that have been there, done that, UH, with some

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<v Speaker 6>younger progressive mindset type of guys. And and I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna be a great mixture for our for our organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before we move forward to what we want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about philosophically and scheme wise, And you touched on

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<v Speaker 2>it there a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I've been told back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the way Gary when he ran it at

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<v Speaker 2>its highest level, it's almost Doenguardle sometimes if it's done

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<v Speaker 2>the right way, the way this offense can be run.

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<v Speaker 2>But specifically Clint coming from San Francisco and the way

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen coaches depart out of San Francisco and have success.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it that you learned maybe in that interview

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<v Speaker 2>process with Clint about what that building is doing right

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<v Speaker 2>to have guys prepared to make a jump like you're

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<v Speaker 2>having Clint do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I just think it's really about, you know, having

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<v Speaker 6>having a system that you believe in UH, and then

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<v Speaker 6>being able to clearly identify the players that fit that system,

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<v Speaker 6>and then being able to acquire the talent that fits.

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<v Speaker 7>That And and I think.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they've done as good a job as any

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<v Speaker 6>in San Francisco being able to do that. I think

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<v Speaker 6>they have a belief system of things that they really

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<v Speaker 6>firmly believe in, and they don't vary from that. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>the scheme has has evolved as it's going gone along.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, this goes back to you know, Mike Shanahan

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<v Speaker 6>coaching back at Denver h through you know kub going

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<v Speaker 6>to Houston UH and then and then carrying that scheme along,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, when he went back to UH Baltimore and

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<v Speaker 6>then he went to Minnesota, and you just see this

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<v Speaker 6>scheme having a lot of success.

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<v Speaker 7>There's probably a little bit more window.

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<v Speaker 6>Dressing within the scheme now than maybe what there was

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<v Speaker 6>you know, ten or fifteen years ago. But I just

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<v Speaker 6>think it's it's a system that's quarterback friendly UH and

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<v Speaker 6>and I think it relies on being able to run

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<v Speaker 6>the football and uh and get your play action passing

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<v Speaker 6>game going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love I love hearing you talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>because you're a defensive guy, right, You've had the scheme

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<v Speaker 1>begainst this, so you know how what the challenge it

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<v Speaker 1>is schematically. You just said it, this is a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>friendly system. How do you think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit Derek Carr?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, I think Derek's going to do exceptionally well.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I thought there was a point in time

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<v Speaker 6>this past season where you know, we started incorporating a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit more of the play action passing game and

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<v Speaker 6>I really felt like that's where our offense started to

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<v Speaker 6>take off. I thought that's where Derek really kind of

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<v Speaker 6>started to take off. And you know, it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I've had communication with Derek throughout this process, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and talk to him about some of the

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<v Speaker 6>different candidates that you know, we were bringing in. And

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<v Speaker 6>his brother, David had played for Gary and and UH

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<v Speaker 6>in Houston, and that was David's last year in Houston.

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<v Speaker 6>I was kind of a little bit concerned that, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe that wouldn't go over that great and and uh,

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<v Speaker 6>and David had some really good things to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>about the offensive scheme, uh, and about how he uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, really appreciated the scheme and the things that

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<v Speaker 6>they were doing, and and and really enjoyed playing for

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<v Speaker 6>for Gary and felt like, look, if, if, if there's

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<v Speaker 6>some similarities, which I think there's a ton between Gary

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<v Speaker 6>and Clint, that uh, it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>great fit. And so I'm really kind of excited about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting you bring up Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a beat guy there when Gary was the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, and I remember those drafts da of him

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<v Speaker 2>kind of finding the guys that fit this game we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about throughout the draft. So I'm kind of curious

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<v Speaker 2>now that you make this switch on offense, what have

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<v Speaker 2>the meetings been like, and does your draft philosophy maybe

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<v Speaker 2>change a little bit in the style of player maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at on the offensive line or some other

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<v Speaker 2>spots with the way that Clint wants to run this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, I think that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you know, a few years back defensively here,

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<v Speaker 6>I remember back in twenty fifteen, kind of twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 6>we weren't sure exactly what we wanted to be defensively

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<v Speaker 6>three four four to three, Seattle three defense, New England

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<v Speaker 6>single high man. We kind of went through a little process,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was really kind of in sixteen where I

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<v Speaker 6>kind of took over, and I think we clearly identified

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<v Speaker 6>exactly what we wanted to do defensively and exactly what

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<v Speaker 6>we were looking for in each position, and so therefore

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<v Speaker 6>we were able to go out and find those guys

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seventeen draft and on, and I think we became

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<v Speaker 6>a lot better defense because of that, because we clearly

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<v Speaker 6>identified what we were looking for. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 6>the process that we're going through right now. We're in

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<v Speaker 6>the process of having our February draft meetings with the scouts,

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<v Speaker 6>with Jeff Ireland, Mickey Loomis, myself, we're in there talking

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<v Speaker 6>through these guys, and we had a chance to get

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<v Speaker 6>the offensive coaching staff in here over the weekend and

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<v Speaker 6>really sit down with the you know, with the scouts

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<v Speaker 6>and with the people in the draft room and kind

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<v Speaker 6>of go through, Look, this is what we're looking for

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<v Speaker 6>at the quarterback position. This is what we're looking for

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<v Speaker 6>in an offensive tackle, this is what we're looking for

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<v Speaker 6>at the receiver position. So I think that's been I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's been great for our group, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>we'll have to continue to have those discussions as we

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<v Speaker 6>go throughout you know, this draft process and really not

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<v Speaker 6>just the draft process, but free agency also.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know that's invigorating.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's got to be like so cool now

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<v Speaker 1>to have these types of discussions with the new staff

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of hear new ideas and and to really

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<v Speaker 1>do this. So let's let's kind of flip it to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the ball, DA, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you've just had one of the best defenses in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL for just the longest time. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at Cam Jordan because last year see him

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<v Speaker 1>like just such an aberration. You know, you only had

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<v Speaker 1>the two sacks he wasn't putting up, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>typical Hall of Fame type of numbers we've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>put up.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you consider that just kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>A blip on the radar, you know, And what does

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<v Speaker 1>he maybe need to do to get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Cam that we have seen for more than a decade.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Well, look, I think I think the thing that

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<v Speaker 6>I would say about Cam, you know, probably where the

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<v Speaker 6>dip occurred a little bit. Is just his ability to

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<v Speaker 6>finish on the quarterback. I think he was still effective

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<v Speaker 6>and kind of being able to get around the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 6>he just didn't finish as well on the quarterback. And so, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's one of the things that we've got

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<v Speaker 6>to continue to look at and work at. I think

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<v Speaker 6>he's still one of the better run players in our

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<v Speaker 6>league at the defensive end position.

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<v Speaker 7>But look, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, as we as we all get older, we

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<v Speaker 6>we we start to slow down a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think he's at that point where I think he's

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<v Speaker 6>still got some good football left. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>up to us to try to find the positions and

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<v Speaker 6>the places to put him in, uh, to allow him

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<v Speaker 6>to still be successful, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And so.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, the other thing is he injured his ankle at

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<v Speaker 6>some point in the season. I think it might have

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<v Speaker 6>been the Minnesota week. And look, he's such a tough

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<v Speaker 6>competitor that he just battled through and fought through it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think it was probably, you know, six weeks

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<v Speaker 6>before he started feeling more like himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you mentioned you mentioned Cam's age, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>pushing him out the door by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>He's one of my favorite players to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a head coach, now that you're in this

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<v Speaker 2>position and you're going through this, when a roster starts

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little bit older, how do you figure

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<v Speaker 2>out gauging you know, a guy still, as you mentioned, Cam,

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<v Speaker 2>still has this much left in your mind, gauging between

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<v Speaker 2>we have to try to maybe flip this and get

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<v Speaker 2>younger in some aspects, but we still want to value

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<v Speaker 2>what this guy brings. Because you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those type of players that still bring a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>the table.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you gauge that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Look, I think it's a delicate balance, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>because not only do these players I'm talking about guys

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<v Speaker 6>like Cam Jordan, I'm talking about guys like Tyron Matthew,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about guys like to Mario Davis. We're speaking

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<v Speaker 6>specifically on the defensive side of the ball. Look, they

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<v Speaker 6>can still play, and they can still play at a

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<v Speaker 6>winnable level, and it's all those other intangibles that they

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<v Speaker 6>can bring to your football team that don't necessarily always

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<v Speaker 6>show up on the stat sheet, but they they they

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<v Speaker 6>show up in terms of the culture and and uh

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<v Speaker 6>and the way you go about doing things. And so look,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a delicate balance and it's hard because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>these guys have been such great players for such a

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<v Speaker 6>long time. Uh that's that's the challenging part of this business.

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<v Speaker 6>But uh, as long as they can play and play

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<v Speaker 6>at a level that allows us to be able to win, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>then then uh, I think they're valuable pieces to our team.

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<v Speaker 1>Da Hey, one last question before we let you go here,

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<v Speaker 1>and and this is important. I'm in New Orleans for

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<v Speaker 1>the the HBCU Legacy Bowl. The HBCU Combine was running

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<v Speaker 1>your facility, and the Saints have such a rich history

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<v Speaker 1>with players, coaches and supporting black college athletics. Even last

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<v Speaker 1>year you guys adding Mark Evans, the offensive lineman at

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Pine Bluff. Just what about your organizational commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to find talent on and off the field to

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<v Speaker 1>make you guys better year in and year out.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, look, I mean I think I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>really just a commitment to trying to find the best

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<v Speaker 6>people and the best players that we can find, regardless

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<v Speaker 6>of where they come from.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think this uh, you know, this Legacy Bowl,

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<v Speaker 6>and we had the combine over here at the facility

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<v Speaker 6>yesterday where I think there was probably about you know,

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<v Speaker 6>fifty kids that got an opportunity to get in front

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<v Speaker 6>of the NFL scouts, uh and and go through some

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<v Speaker 6>you know, positional uh drills or skilled drills to get

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<v Speaker 6>get there, get their name, and get their face in

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<v Speaker 6>front of uh some NFL evaluators and give them an

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity to maybe have a chance to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>either be drafted signed as a free agent. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we look football players coming and and all shape sizes

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<v Speaker 6>and areas and backgrounds and all those kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 6>and and uh, you know, we're willing to look anywhere

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<v Speaker 6>we can to find somebody that fits our culture, that

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<v Speaker 6>fits our program, uh, that can help us, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>be a successful organization wins the football games.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey da, man, we appreciate the support. We appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>taking the time with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, you know, and you're taking out time when

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<v Speaker 1>the middle draft prep and putting the staff together means

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So can't thank you enough. Joining James and I here

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<v Speaker 4>at the NFL report.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely, guys. I always got I always got fifteen

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<v Speaker 6>minutes for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys there we go, We're gonna follow you back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to hold you to that day. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>are all right.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Report our top Pella zero is going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some key NFL free agents. That guy Kirk Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>he be available. That's next on the NFL Report. All

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the NFL Report. James Palmer, Steve Whitch

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<v Speaker 2>tom My first question to you is this, we broke

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<v Speaker 2>bread multiple times in Vegas during the week long stay

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<v Speaker 2>we had in there, which is far longer than the

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours everybody recommends. Your favorite meal in Las

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas that you had with me was what.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 9>I believe I bailed on one of them about halfway

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<v Speaker 9>through because I had an engagement that I needed to

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<v Speaker 9>get to. I believe that one lotuses I am had

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<v Speaker 9>the potential to be really good. Everybody raided about it after,

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<v Speaker 9>but the potent in the Cosmo. It was a fantastic

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<v Speaker 9>meal that we had together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that was fantastic. That one was really really good,

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<v Speaker 3>really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And all right, speaking of fantastic, let's get to the

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver position. Potential franchise tag candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two. I'm looking at the first one. T Higgins.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, this is a fascinating situation with Cincinnati and

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<v Speaker 2>he if you give him a contract, then you're just

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<v Speaker 2>resetting a floor for Jamar Chase, which you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do down the road. Do you want to pay two

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<v Speaker 2>wide receivers? Do you move on now or do you

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 2>try to maybe just run it back on the tag

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 2>and try to get a Lombardi in twenty twenty four?

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Where do things stand in your opinion with T Higgins

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 9>You're right, James, because somebody, if T. Higgins were to

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 9>get to the open market, would pay him like a

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 9>number one wide receiver on his own team. It's pretty

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 9>clear Jamar Chase is that number one guy when he's

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 9>out there and fully healthy. The Bengals are not strangers

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.000
<v Speaker 9>to using the franchise tag. They have done it in

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 9>the past with a wide receiver not that long ago.

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 9>In aj Green and had him play his final season

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 9>there on the tag, So certainly a possibility that they

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 9>could keep t Higgins on the franchise tag for a year.

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 9>Nobody's preference, generally speaking, is to end up with somebody

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 9>on the tag, but they've got enough flexibility right now

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 9>in terms of their salary cap that that would be

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 9>an option if they're not able to consummate a deal

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 9>prior to the negotiating window opening up on March eleven.

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 3>JB.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you follow up since you said you

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>had a second wide receiver you want.

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of blocked out because I was thinking

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 2>of STK real quick. How about Mike Evans down there

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in Tampa Bay, Because I know there's plenty of teams

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:32.959
<v Speaker 2>around the league that are going this is still an

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 2>unbelievably productive receiver and if he finds his way out,

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:39.959
<v Speaker 2>this is somebody just like the Higgans, and teams are

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>going to jump at.

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 9>Well, it's a big number for Mike Evans if you

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 9>were to franchise tag him based off last year's salary

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 9>cap number. Also, you have to think what a player

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:53.920
<v Speaker 9>has had the type of career that Mike Evans has

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.399
<v Speaker 9>had at the Buccaneers one thousand yards every single season

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 9>being a franchise legend. Do you go that harout if

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 9>you're not able to work out a deal, or do

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 9>you say thanks for the memories, thanks for a Super

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 9>Bowl win, We're gonna let you move on with your

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 9>career right now. Those are organizational decisions that the Bucks

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 9>are going to have to make. I know that certain

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 9>people were making a lot of fact they didn't get

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 9>a contract done a couple of days ago before a

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 9>void date. Voids are not magic, They're not hey, he

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 9>immediately becomes a free agent. They just mean it's a

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 9>matter of accounting differently for future cap numbers onto the cap.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 9>Nothing precluding them from being able to move forward here

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 9>with a deal on Mike Evans. But let's also be

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 9>very clear, Mike Evans has earned it. He's one of

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 9>the most consistent players that the NFL has seen over

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 9>the past decade. Here he's got one more big bite

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 9>at the apple. I would not think that he would

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 9>want to be on the franchise tag. I would think,

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 9>and again a lot of different ways that this could go.

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 9>Teams have the right he used the tag, But I

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.439
<v Speaker 9>would think if they can't get a deal done with

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 9>Mike Evans. He quite possibly we're in a new uniform

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 9>in twenty twenty four.

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I would agree Tom because look, he'll always be viewed year. Yeah,

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>even if he has to play another team, he always

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.360
<v Speaker 1>be viewed as a buccaneer. His his legacy is solidified.

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 4>There. Let's come off the tag.

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe later we can talk about, you know,

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Tony Pollard to say, Kwon Barkley and this and that,

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>but let's.

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 4>Get some guys with some inspiring contracts.

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins is the more, if the more, one of

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the most I should say, intriguing guys out there. Because

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota we know they probably would like to keep him.

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>But he's coming off that achilles, there's the age. What's

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>his situation.

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 9>Well, I would anticipate Steve that kirk Cousins is going

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 9>to have a strong market, even going on to his

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 9>age thirty six season and coming off.

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 8>Of that torn achilles.

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 9>The Vikings want to keep kirk Cousins, but to this point,

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 9>there's really been no substantive communication. That's normal for the Vikings.

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 9>They do a lot of their contract talks with their

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 9>own free agents. At the combine that begins next week

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 9>in Indianapolis. At that point, I would think that everybody

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 9>involved have a pretty good idea of what that market

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 9>for Kirk Cousins is going to be. At the same time,

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 9>Vikings are exploring all options in the event that the

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 9>price tag just becomes too high on Cousins if he

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 9>goes elsewhere. Wouldn't think that they'd be in the Baker

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 9>Mayfield mix. There's not a lot of other starting caliber,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 9>clear starters available in free agency. I think it may

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 9>be more of an economical type of veteran Let's say

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.919
<v Speaker 9>a Sam Darnold coming in, which would buy them some

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 9>time to bridge the gap to bringing a young quarterback

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 9>as well. Maybe even somebody that they could draft or

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 9>sitting there at number eleven could go up to go down.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 9>That would be a possibility. Minnesota in general, guys in

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 9>a really unique situation right here, because there's not a

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 9>lot of times you've got three players on your roster

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 9>who all could be thirty million plus per year players

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 9>with Kirk Cousins who can't be tagged, the Neil Hunter,

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 9>who is also a penny free agent, can't be tagged,

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 9>and then justin Jefferson who has a pretty big vested

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 9>interest in what happens with Kirk Cousins in that quarterback situation.

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 9>So a lot of moving parts for Quasia doofo Mensa

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 9>and Kevin O'Connell to soar through here. Again, the Vikings

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 9>usually do a lot of what they take care of

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 9>is at the combine, coming off of that and leading

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 9>up to March eleventh March thirteenth, that's where you'll get

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 9>a better idea of exactly what direction these are gonna go.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Can I just say with all the time he missed

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>justin Jefferson season still was absolutely remarkable and what he

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>was able to do with even the games that he missed,

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 2>he was He's incredible. You mentioned Baker there real quick, Tom,

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 2>you look down there in Tampa. We mentioned Mike Evans,

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>We talked about him, and then you could look at

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the franchise tag and maybe that's going to Antoine Winfield

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Junior their safety. Maybe that's where that tag goes. What's

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>what's the status with where things stand with Baker maybe

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>re signing in Tampa because he becomes available. There's not

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of veterans, as you mentioned, signal callers that

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>teams are maybe desiring and he might be one a

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 2>on a decent price.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 8>Well, here's what we know, James.

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 9>The price is gonna be higher for Baker Mayfield than

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 9>it was a year ago when he went there on

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 9>a one year deal worth five million dollars plus incentives.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 9>The question is going to be how high does that

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 9>price go and does another team it's serious, involved and

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 9>make a push for Baker Mayfield. Now we know the

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 9>Bucks have expressed an interest they want Baker Mayfield back.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 9>Mayfield said during Super Bowl interviews that getting that offensive

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 9>coordinator in place, the fact that the guy he knows

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 9>in Liam Cohen, that was one of the big pieces

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 9>that had to be in place before he evaluates his situation. Now,

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 9>I've talked to a lot of people within the league,

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 9>other general managers who are trying to project this thing out.

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 9>They all believe Baker Mayfield ends up going back to Tampa.

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 9>If for no other reason then he's been on so

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 9>many teams from Cleveland, Carolina to LA to Tampa over

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 9>the past couple of years that up ending once again

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 9>and going to another new team probably isn't what he

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 9>really wants to do. I mean said that Dave Canalis

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 9>isn't there anymore? The guy had success with in Tampa

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 9>last year, he's now the Panthers head coach.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 8>How much does that impact things?

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 9>And also remember this, okay, Liam Cohen worked with Baker

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 9>during that time that he's spent with LA a couple

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 9>of years ago. So did Zach Robinson, who's now the

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 9>Falcons offensive coordinator.

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 8>They have an acute quarterback feat.

0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 9>I'm not saying that the Falcons are going to make

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 9>a run at this, but in the same division, if

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 9>they got involved, that's the type of thing that can

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 9>really make that price go up.

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And Raheem Morris was the DC for the Rams when

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Baker came in and played well at the end of

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the season a couple of years ago too, so there's

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that tie as well. Let's get back to the running

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>backs and potential franchise tag with Tony Pollard and Saquon

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>bark That would seem almost a steep for what both

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>teams got from those running backs last year. Even on

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>the tag, that would seem like a steep number for

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>both of those players.

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Am I am? I kind of off base?

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>You're thinking that an eleven million dollars twelve thirteen million

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>dollar tag for both those guys is serviceable enough.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 9>Again, the steepest tag actual would be for Josh Jacobs

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 9>in Las Vegas. That one could go to fourteen million

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 9>plus based upon the foundation upgrade contract a couple extra million.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 9>Saquon and Tony Pollard played it essentially the base tag.

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 8>Barkley did a new deal.

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 9>They added like nine hundred and nine thousand dollars in incentives,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 9>but they were all tied to team performance. When you're

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 9>the Giants and you lose your quarterback and you play

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 9>with Tommy DeVito and.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 8>You win like six games, you're not hitting any of

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 8>those incentives.

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 9>So for Saquon, he's said many times he wants to

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 9>be a Giant for life. The Giants organization has a

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 9>great affinity for Saquon Barkley. John Marris certainly is in

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 9>that bucket as well. It would make a lot of

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 9>sense for them to try to get a deal done.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 9>But remember last year, New York made multiple runs at this.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 9>They did it before the startup Fur agency, before the

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 9>tag window. Last year, Saquon turned down a fairly substantial contract,

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 9>albeit within the context of running back contracts, so they

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 9>had to pivot tag Saquon and resign Daniel Jones to

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 9>an extension.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 8>Again.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 9>They made another push to resign Saquon d'uring the bye

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 9>week last year, again didn't end up doing it. So

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 9>all of that leads you to a situation now and

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 9>again before July as well. So several times they've tried

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 9>to make a run of getting something done with Saquon.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 9>It hasn't worked out to this point. You would think though,

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 9>again they would like to get something done. The question

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 9>is going to be the number. And then when it

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 9>comes to Tony Pollard, obviously his numbers weren't great in

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 9>his first year as the back three point nine yards

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 9>per carry. I talked to Emmett Smith in an interview

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 9>during Super Bowl Week. I asked him, what would you

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 9>do with Tony Pollard? Emmittt said, I think you have

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 9>to resign him. His argument was, it is different being

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 9>the number one back versus the number two back. Cowboys also,

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 9>based on how they played offense, didn't necessarily always commit

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 9>to being a running football team, in Emmett's point of view,

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 9>and I respect that more than anything I'm going to

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 9>say on this show.

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 8>Let's be honest here.

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 9>He felt like there's more that they could unlock with

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 9>Tony Pollard moving forward, but tagging him again at twelve

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 9>million dollars plus to your point, Steve, that does seem right.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a deep number, Tom p good stuff. Have

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>fun during franchise tax season, combine season. You two go

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>get a meal. I'm not saying it to what. We'll

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>break bread there too.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you have me. Tom's gonna dip.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Out again too halfway because he got a more important

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>engagement again, JP, do take that.

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>That's probably what happened.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Can we come back on the NFL report. Caleb William's

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the number one quarterback. We're about to talk about him

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and others might not be, or maybe they are.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 4>We're back on the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 1>The top draft eligible players from historically black colleges and

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>universities put on the pads one last time to show

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they're worthy of getting drafted.

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<v Speaker 4>The third annual.

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0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of the HBCU Legacy Bowl, Bucky Brooks, who now joins US,

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>will be on the call with me and Bucky and

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I right now are at Tulane Stadium, about a third

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen away from one another in the press box here

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium at T Lane JB.

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky, B.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate you joining us. We're gonna get to some of.

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<v Speaker 1>The these HBCU players who are participating in practice this week.

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<v Speaker 1>In just a minute, there's the horn, kind of signaling

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<v Speaker 1>practice is over.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Bucky, let's get to the overall draft class coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we're in that window the NFL Draft combine starts soon,

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<v Speaker 1>we can just tell us overall about this draft class.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, Steve is a really solid draft class up

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 10>at the top of the board. Now, this would be

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 10>the first year where we see some of the I

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 10>would say, the negative effects of nil, some of the

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 10>COVID stuff where the draft is not as deep when

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 10>we get to Day three. But the first three rounds

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 10>should be loaded with players that can come in and

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 10>make contributions in those things. As it relates to positions

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 10>that are really loaded with talent, I would say the

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 10>quarterback position, you got solid prospects. You have a ton

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 10>of big time playmakers at wide receiver. Probably the deepest

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 10>position of the draft. Offensive line, particularly offensive tackle, is

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 10>loaded with playmakers and talent.

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Where you can see a bunch of first round come

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<v Speaker 5>off the board.

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<v Speaker 10>On defense, you have a solid pass rushing class, like

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 10>you have guys that are intriguing, but it's not as

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 10>deep as past some past years. And then I would

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 10>say cornerback, you have a bunch of big cornerbacks, guys

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 10>that are over five ten, five or eleven that can

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 10>play the game, usize in a variety of techniques.

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 5>So you're in need of kind of what we call

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 5>the core positions.

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<v Speaker 10>You can find those guys passers, playmakers, pass protectors, hand

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 10>full of pass rushers, and then some defensive playmakers.

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 5>At corner you can get those guys. You just won't

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 5>find a.

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 10>Lot at running back, in linebacker. That's where you kind

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 10>of have to go shopping elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like it, I like it. We'll start with

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the most important one. It's the quarterback spot bucket. And

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 2>this is not my Ohio State blood right here throwing

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>shade at JJ McCarthy and what he's done to my

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 2>team in the game. What I'm curious about is what

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 2>do you see in your evaluations in talking people in

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>terms of size and in terms of it just seems

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 2>like he hasn't had to be the guy in big moments.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>The team's been brilliant around him.

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Is that kind of I don't want to say a

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 2>knock on him, but when you haven't seen him have

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 2>to do that as much? What happens in your evaluation

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>process when you don't have a whole lot of examples

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>of that.

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And you're going to need him to do it at

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 3>the next level.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, No, I mean, I think that's a very valid

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 10>concern to think about JJ McCarthy. The things that will

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 10>go well for him will be winning pet agree. He's

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 10>done it on a big stage on a ton of

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 10>games at Michigan. He'll go down maybe as the greatest

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 10>quarterback to ever play there, just based on how the

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 10>team succeeded.

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 5>He's been a guy that has just kind of managed the.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 10>Team, driven the bus and found a way to get

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 10>the team into the winner circle.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 5>But when you watch him play athletically, he's intriguing.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 10>He can run the ball, he's a legitimate duel threat quarterback,

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 10>super athletic, has a strong arm and delivered deadly strikes

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 10>and those things. You just don't have a lot of

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 10>visual evidence on tape to say that he could be

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 10>the guy that is the drive for us of the offense.

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 10>When I look at him, it reminds me a lot

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 10>of the same evaluation that I had with Justin Herbert.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 10>Justin Herbert when he played at Oregon was not asked

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 10>to do a lot of stuff, played in the more

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 10>of a conservative offense, but then he gets to the

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 10>National Football League and flourishes. I think JJ McCarthy is

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 10>intriguing because people see the traits and the tools, They

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.280
<v Speaker 10>see the athleticism, they see the strong arm, they recognize

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 10>and appreciate the intangibles. That's why he's going to be

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 10>a gutess of interest in the first round.

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Bucky, sound like people evaluating some Dean Smith tar

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>heels back in the day because they had so many

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>good players. None of them were have to drive. But

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you talked about how great this receiving classes. We know

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>how the very top there's Marvin Harrison Junior, who might

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:44.839
<v Speaker 1>be the best player.

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Overall in this draft.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>What about the top end depth and what type of

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>players are these teams getting Because we've seen wide receivers

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>buck the norm over the past five or six years

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.240
<v Speaker 1>and come in and have an immediate impact.

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I think what we're seeing is the byproduct of

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 10>what we call seven on seven culture. The wide receivers

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 10>that are entering the league now are more experienced, more

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 10>polished than they've ever been. Part of the reason is

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 10>because they're catching more balls, running more routes than they

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 10>ever have. From the time there and Pop Warner to

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 10>the time they graduate college, these guys have really played

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 10>football year round, and it manifests itself in guys like

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 10>Marvin Harrison Junior. Being a very polished player that comes

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 10>out reminds me a lot of Larry Fitzgerald in terms

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 10>of just guessing when you see him. He's a plug

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 10>and play pro. You can run rouse, he can catch

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 10>it over the middlefield. He has speed to burn. But

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 10>to me, he's a legitimate number one receiver because he

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 10>not only commands double coverage, but he can defeat cover coverage.

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 10>It's easy to envision him being the anchor of a

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 10>passing game, but it extends beyond him. Rome a Doonsday

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 10>from Washington is another guy that people are buzzing about,

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 10>and one of the reasons they're buzzing about the Washington

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 10>standout is because he's big, he's physical, does a great

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 10>job of catching the ball in his hands. He wins

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 10>the fifty to fifty balls and really, when you watch him,

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 10>he reminds me a lot of Jamar Chase, physical imposing

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 10>presence even though he doesn't have I would say superior size.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 10>He plays with a rugged game that means he's gonna win,

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 10>and he's gonna win a ton on the perimeter. And

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 10>the last guy we got to talk about is Lsu

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 10>Standout Molik Neighbors just a total package. Can catch it,

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 10>run and catch specialists and separate, does a great job

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 10>of making things happen. And even though like he shared

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 10>the marquee with another talented player, he is another guy

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 10>that is ready to roll. These three players will vie

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 10>for the number one spot. Even though we've talked about

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 10>Marvin Harrison Junior being the number one, these other guys

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 10>would get him a run for their money because I

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 10>think it comes down to ice cream shops. What kind

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 10>of flavors do you like to go in your favorite

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 10>waffle cone. These guys bring a lot to the table.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 10>That's why so much how many people are buzzing about.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the analogy buckets.

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I want to use it for what Terry Fontineau told

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>us on this show last week. He was on with

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>us and said, they're really excited about the round two,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>round three picks that they have because he believes that

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 2>group right there, you have the ability to find a

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of talent in different spots. I'm curious if maybe

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you could read into what he's saying. We don't know

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 2>how the draft is going to fall by then, right,

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it always can kind of fall and there's runs at

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 2>different spots. But maybe in that could you kind of

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe with what you've looked at round two, round three,

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>what's he talking about of what maybe value you can

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 2>find there?

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 10>Well, I mean, like I don't necessarily think that the

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 10>Atlanta Falcons and the wide receivers, but we have seen

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 10>in recent years wide receivers come from every round of

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 10>the draft and have an immediate impact. Everybody would talk

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.240
<v Speaker 10>about Fuku Nakua, but let's just talk about the impact

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 10>that Tank Dale was having the Houston Texas when he

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 10>jumped out and made a ton of plays. There are

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 10>more of those kinds of players were supplying to me. Look,

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.240
<v Speaker 10>the supply is overwhelming when it comes to the wide

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 10>receiver position, but it also would be an opportunity for

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 10>teams to look at offensive tackles and if you need

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 10>to fortify the offensive line, there are a bunch of

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 10>intriguing players that can come off the board. We always

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 10>talk about the first rounders, but look, man, there's an

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 10>offensive tackle class of Joe aut Tullis Fuaga, Amarius Men,

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 10>JC Latham, troy Na that are going to be available

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 10>at the bottom of the first round, top of the

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 10>second round, so you can get some of those these

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 10>feel and also on the interior, because as I'm thinking

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 10>about the Atlanta Facons, I think really the main thing

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 10>is them fixing quarterback and continue to upgrade.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:43.760
<v Speaker 5>The offensive line.

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 10>Ram Barton, Jackson, Powers, Johnson Hooper, BB, Chris Haynes. There

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 10>are a lot of players on the offensive side of

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 10>the ball that are available in the second and third

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 10>rounds that'll be able to come in and get you starters.

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 10>And then if we talk about, like literally I talk

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 10>about the draft nine being plentiful in terms of running

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 10>backs and linebackers, but that's where those guys are gonna

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 10>come off the board.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 5>We have a namesake in Jeremiah Trodde Junior.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 10>There will be a nice fit second, third round instinctive

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 10>active in those things. I think the reason why general

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 10>managers get excited is because they know if I don't

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 10>want to expand the first round pick, there are some

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 10>positions that I can talken in the second and third

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 10>rounds and really upgrade my roster.

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, but we're talking about some day two, day

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>three guys. We are here at the HPCU Legacy Ball.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>The first day of the full practice is just wrapped

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>up here at Tulane University. Team Robinson, players made up

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>from the Swack and the Ssayak just finish their drills.

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But later on it be Team Gaither and their quarterback

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Davius Richard from North Carolina Central.

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 4>Is that, dude? Do you tie me a heck Player

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 4>of the year, A great runner, a great thrower. He

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 4>blew up the combine.

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 1>What about a player like him who is so accomplished

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>at this level, who has all the physical specs about

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>him getting into a camp and getting a shot, especially

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>with the duality he poses.

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think this year.

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 10>I mean look even previous years, like last year we

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 10>saw as a Shawn Clifford go in the fifth round

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 10>and dtr during Thompson Robinson going the fifth round and

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 10>have an opportunity to play. I think teams are kind

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 10>of getting hip to the fact that you need to

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 10>continue to take quarterbacks just due to the nature of

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 10>the position, the value of the position, and the injury

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 10>situations that we see in the position.

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 5>You need to have a bunch of guys in the stable.

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 10>When you talk about Davis Richard, one of the things

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 10>that will intrigue teams about him is the spectacular playmaking

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 10>ability that he possesses, not only as a thrower but

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 10>as a dynamic runner. When you watched him at n

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 10>C Central, he made plays. He had the ability to

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 10>put this offense on his back. People will need to

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 10>look no further than the Celebration Bowl a year ago

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 10>when he knocked off Coach Primes undefeated Jackson State team

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 10>and did it in splendid fashion. This is a big

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 10>time playmaker. And the thing that I like about him, Steve,

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 10>is when we had an opportunity to talk to him

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 10>after the combine, the ability to articulate and to really

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 10>explain the wise behind.

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 5>What he does on the field.

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 10>To me, that is valuable because when you talk to teams,

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 10>they want guys that can take board the information from

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 10>the board to the field.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 5>Richard is one of those except one of those guys

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 5>that can do that.

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 2>But when you've seen quarterbacks over the last couple of

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 2>years come out and Brock perty's one that jumps out

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously with everything he's done, but experience, right, you've played

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 2>those snaps in the game, and now it seems like

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>teams are seeing that.

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's important to almost go up.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to finish with this because this is what

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and I show is about. It's about offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 2>and it's about the nickel corner position. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about those two more than anything else on

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<v Speaker 2>this show. Have you seen in team's evaluations, Buck, over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years the way that nickel spot

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<v Speaker 2>has become more and more important to finding that on

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<v Speaker 2>your defensive side of the ball? Trent Duffee, obviously, what

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<v Speaker 2>he did with the Super Bowl champs just jumps out

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<v Speaker 2>of us. You know, repeatedly, What have you seen in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the evaluations and the importance of finding that

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<v Speaker 2>spot over the last couple of drafts?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I think it's been changing for a while.

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<v Speaker 10>It's become now where teams consider defenses to have twelve starters,

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<v Speaker 10>and that nickel corner is considered a starter. And it's

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<v Speaker 10>not only considered a starter, but now you're scouting for

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<v Speaker 10>play a specific set of skills to play at the

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<v Speaker 10>nickel position, because when you're playing nickel corner, I want

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<v Speaker 10>people to understand back in the day, the nickel used

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<v Speaker 10>to be your best corner, because what you're asking them

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<v Speaker 10>to do is to be.

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<v Speaker 5>A hybrid player.

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<v Speaker 10>He's a hybrid linebacker slash defensive back who is tasked

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<v Speaker 10>with being assigned to sometimes the slipperiest wide receiver, but

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<v Speaker 10>also being factored into the running game. So guys need

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<v Speaker 10>to tackle well, they need to have quickness to be

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<v Speaker 10>able to shadow in space, they need to be high

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<v Speaker 10>IQ guys because you ask them to do a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of things at that position, and if they have pass

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<v Speaker 10>for a skills where they can blitz off the edge,

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<v Speaker 10>it really makes them a very valuable commodity. So when

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<v Speaker 10>you talk about guys like Trent McDuffie and the work

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<v Speaker 10>that he was able to do last year for the

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<v Speaker 10>Kansas City Chiefs, people are going to look at that

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<v Speaker 10>and they want players who can kind of impact the

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<v Speaker 10>game in a variety of ways. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 10>the nature of the way the NFL is going. You're

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<v Speaker 10>seeing teams blitz more, You're seeing teams play more man

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<v Speaker 10>to man, and you continue to see the evolution of

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<v Speaker 10>the defense where you having positionless players manning multiple spots.

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<v Speaker 10>The nickel position is that spot that has really become

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<v Speaker 10>a huge position for championship caliber defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Love.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Buck, I don't know how many guys

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<v Speaker 2>that play that spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve and I have had on the show this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I might be half a dozen of those guys, Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Moore and a couple of those guys that have been

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, and we've absolutely loved chatting with them

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<v Speaker 2>about the position. You know it so well and you

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<v Speaker 2>broke it down brilliantly. Listen, we stole Bucking from moved

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<v Speaker 2>the sticks for our but make sure you keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye listening to him and Daniel Jeremiah throughout this entire

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<v Speaker 2>draft off season or for in season, for you, off

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<v Speaker 2>season for me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I appreciate it, man, Please can join us.

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<v Speaker 2>Again before this draft rolls around on the NFL report, Buck,

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<v Speaker 2>awesome stuff, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey man, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. Coming up, Matthew Slater announces his retirement.

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<v Speaker 2>Can a man with one NFL reception as a wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver make it to the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to debate that next on the NFL Report.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the NFL Report podcast, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch me, Steve Weich and my co host James Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>on The NFL Report at seven fifteen Eastern Time on

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<v Speaker 1>Mondays and Thursdays on the NFL App and free streaming

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.560
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the NFL Reporters. We close things out.

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<v Speaker 2>James Palmer, Steve Whtch with you alongside Tom Brady and

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 2>a recently retired Matthew Slater. The Special Team's Extraordinary for

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<v Speaker 2>the New England Patriots. Brady's saying the best teammate and

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<v Speaker 2>even better man, Congratulations on the perfect career. A ten

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<v Speaker 2>time Pro bowler, Steve, two time All Pro who had

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<v Speaker 2>eight career targets. He's listed on your roster as a

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver, but eight targets in his whole career one catch.

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<v Speaker 2>You know so much about the Hall of Fame? Does

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Slater get into Canton.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be real interesting because, look, Devin Hester's

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<v Speaker 1>going in as a member of the Class of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the greatest returner ever.

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<v Speaker 1>We have two of the greatest kickers John Stenenrud and

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Morgan Anderson in the game in the Hall, the greatest

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>punter ever, and Ray guy in the Hall. Got what

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the best coverage guys, blocker setup men

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<v Speaker 1>ever in Matthew Slater. Interesting because Steve Tasker, the legend

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 1>of the Buffalo Bills. People have been clamoring for him

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<v Speaker 1>to get in for more than a decade. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>put Matthew Slater, who you see right here. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how hard this is to pick somebody up on the

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.479
<v Speaker 1>run as you see him on that type of play.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he get in before Steve Pasker? This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very interesting debate becaus Matthew Slater is

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<v Speaker 1>far more decorated as a special teamer than any non

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<v Speaker 1>returner or punter or kicker to get into the Hall JP.

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<v Speaker 2>And Steve, I'll throw this on his resume as well

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, and I've talked to people in New England

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<v Speaker 2>about this. His role in the Second Dynasty Essentially, the

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Patriots have is massive, a special teams player that took

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<v Speaker 2>the attention to detail in operating, in coverage and kick

0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 2>return to all those aspects added to the attention to

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 2>detail in the culture that Bill Belichick created there. If

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to people in that building, they will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you he played a far bigger role than people outside

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston area understand in how that dynasty was developed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Teddy Bruski that handed the baton essentially to

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Slater. How crazy is that? A special team or

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<v Speaker 2>an unbelievable career. Remember our time has changed, Steve by

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes, so don't miss the first team fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. We are remember Mondays and Thursdays, seven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock on the NFL channel that's on Roku and twob

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and Peacock and everywhere, and then all later it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve, the picture still looks great. The time's just a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>Times are a bit different, and we're still a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that you can listen to whenever, when you're out walking

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<v Speaker 1>your dog, when you're up on the slopes, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching the NFL combine, next week, your Thursday JP