1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: It's time to place your bets. So this meet Joey P. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Joe P's a PA, and this is BP NFL with 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: my good friend the Undertaker Andrew Erickson. Were here to 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: look ahead to see if there's any value at all 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: in early week nine. Odds we sound some good value 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: last week too. It's definitely a lot there. So hopefully 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: we're gonna pick this schedule apart and find some other 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: good ones. Certainly a lot of weirdness yesterday, as there 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: always is in the NFL season. What surprised you the most, 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Andrew Erickson? Was it the Miami Dolphins taking it to 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: the Falcons? Was it the Jets getting their first victory? 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: Or was it something else in Week eight that had you, 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, tickled your fancy so to speak. 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: Now, I think the biggest shock was used after the 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: Dolphins Falcons game. I had some reservations about Jets Bengals. 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Thought that that line was a little weird. I didn't 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: touch it, but I did not like laying the points 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, even at home. I just thought, I don't 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: like the spot for Flacco favored by so much after 21 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: a primetime spot, and I mean, I mean they should 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: have won that game, but you know, ultimately Jets came back. 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Bengals defense is just so so bad. It's just absolutely strocious. 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it even matters, Like if Joe Burrow 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: comes in, It's like, dude, like this defense can't stop anybody. 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: And they're asking Jamarks at the game, as an offensive leader, 27 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: how do you get someone to step on the defense. 28 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: He's like, guys that play offense. 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Maybe he should defense, although doesn't he have? Didn't he 30 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: lead the team in tackles a couple of times. 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: At one point he had more tackles than Micah Parsons 32 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: at one point. 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Right was that was the stat that we had then. 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: But I think the. 35 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: Falcons Dolphins game is like a reminder. We talked about 36 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: it on the Betting Pros livestream before Locke at twelve 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: thirty with myself and Matt Perrault talking about how you 38 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: know when you're really heavily betting on one team just 39 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: because of their opponent and not because you actually like 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: the team that you're betting on. Like that was why 41 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: I didn't have no action on Falcons Dolphins because I 42 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: look at Okay, I think the Dolphins office can score, 43 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: especially inside a dome. We saw the Falcons get destroyed 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: by the run one week ago without Devon Diablo as 45 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: their linebacker. He missed again, they had more injuries. 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: And if you just. 47 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: Zoom out, why should you be laying a touchdown with 48 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: a team that's missing their starting quarterback and best wide receiver, 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: right if you just like zoom out and just don't 50 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: think about what the Dolphins and then then just I 51 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: don't know how the Falcons could run the ball. It 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: just against this terrible Miami Dolphins run defense. B Jon 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: Romison could just not get going. He was the biggest 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: DFS bus chalk in the history of DFS without your inrease, 55 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: like just absolutely bonkers. So that was definitely the biggest 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: surprise for me was just the falcons inability to run 57 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: the football, although Tyle that was here did find way 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: to find the end zone in garbage time. 59 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: Gross, don't remind me. 60 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: All right, let's get ahead, let's wipe it all away here. 61 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about. 62 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: Baltimore and Miami this week on Thursday Night Football. We 63 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: think Lamar Jackson this time, That's what we've been told, 64 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: but we thought it was gonna be last week because 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: we'll see right now, the Baltimore Ravens on the road 66 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: in Miami are favored by seven, the best number on 67 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: betting proch you can find, and the contess's line is 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: plus eight and a half. Then forty nine and a 69 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: half of the over, fifteen and a half of the under, 70 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: plus three seventeen for the upset here with Miami. So look, 71 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: I mean they got back to rue of the football. 72 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: Huntley was good. If they end up having a pivot 73 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: to Huntley again, I think it'll be fine. So here 74 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: you go, let's talk about this one. 75 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Here. 76 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Do you see any early value on Thursday night? 77 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: I think it's probably just on the Dolphins, to be honest, 78 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: if you're just hoping that it does a mar player 79 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: not because they can say all they want. He was 80 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: with scout team after the bye week and he didn't practice, 81 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 3: and now he has a short week. So I think 82 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: that the process was right last week, taking the Bears 83 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: plus six and a half, the line I ultimately moved 84 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: in you got CLV. Obviously it didn't work out because 85 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: the Bear is still lost by more than two and 86 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: a half points, so that sucks. But I think process wise, 87 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: make Lamar proved that he's actually playing before you lay 88 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: the points with the Baltimore Ravens. 89 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Just yeah, that's fair, that's fair. 90 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: So we'll definitely check that one. Of course, there's an 91 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: football show. We'll be here too for you on the channel. 92 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe to the Betting Pros YouTube channel. 93 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: Trying to get one hundred thousand. Let's get to Carolina 94 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Green Bay. So Carolina Panthers are now four and four 95 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: after that big loss to the Buffalo Bills Green Bit 96 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: Packers five to one and one. Really second half took 97 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: off for them. Tucker Craft, I gotta give you cred Andrew. 98 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: You're the biggest Tucker Craft guy I knew in the offseason, 99 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: and you are one hundred percent right. It's been his 100 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: breakout season. He's been terrific. They are eleven and a 101 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: half point favorites at home against Carolina. That's a big 102 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: number here. Plus twelve and a half is the best 103 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: number you're getting on Carolina. You got the over at 104 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: forty three and a half, the under forty four and 105 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: a half plus five point fifty on the money line 106 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: for the upset here with the Panthers. But twelve is 107 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: a lot of points here Andrew. 108 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Twelve and a half. 109 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: Specifically, I'm kind of leaning early on here to the 110 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: Carolina despite the fact that Green Bay looked terrific. I 111 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: just think that's a lot of points at this stage too. 112 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: It gives me some out there with garbage time. That's 113 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: my thought process on this one. But look, Packers, great 114 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: road warrior. Two weeks in a row, you know, find 115 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: a way to win in the second half of both 116 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: those games. Certainly, I think a character building exercise for 117 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: this football team for sure. 118 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: Beating Aaron Rodgers. 119 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure a little bit of fun there for the 120 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Packers guys there, for the head coach and for the 121 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: quarterback as well. 122 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: But what's your take on this Green Carolina line? 123 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: I don't I have one rule when it comes with Panthers. 124 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: I don't bet on them when they're on the road. 125 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: You don't. 126 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: You don't touch the Carolina Panthers. Andy Dalton could be 127 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: this according quarterback again. He can't move. The guy can't 128 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: move inside the pocket. He is showing all of his age. 129 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: And Bryce Sung has a high angels spring, So even 130 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: if he comes back, how mobile is he against that 131 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Green Bay pass? 132 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: Rush led by Micah Parsons Like that is that's fair? 133 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: I am terrified of betting on the Panthers. 134 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: So I actually think that green Bay, even though it 135 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: is a lot of points, I'm comfortable laying this amount 136 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: of points with green Bay because I think that this 137 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: win over the Steelers was kind of when did it 138 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: all change for green Bay as they made their playoff front. 139 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be we're going to look 140 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: back at this Steelers game. That's when green Bay started 141 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: to get hot, both on defense and on offense. In 142 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: that second half against Pittsburgh. We know, the last couple 143 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: of weeks, it's been kind of, you know, inconsistency. They 144 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: look good, but then they kind of lay down a 145 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: little bit to some inferior opponents. They stepped up big 146 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: time against the Pittsburgh Steelers on the road. I think 147 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: this is where you start to see them start to 148 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 3: roll inferior opponents. And I think the Carolina Panthers, after getting 149 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: absolutely destroyed by Buffalo, James Cook is still rushing. Oh yeah, 150 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: more running yards. I think Josh Jacobs smashes here. So yeah, 151 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: I like the Packers here. 152 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: I will say this if it's Andy Dalton. Again, I'm 153 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: fine with the twelve and a half if you do 154 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: get Bryce Young, like it's weird because its high ankle, 155 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: but he's a quarterback, so it's very tricky sometimes, you know, 156 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: sometimes these guys push through. So if it's not that, 157 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: I feel great about Bryce Young either, But if it's 158 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, then the eleven and a half sure. 159 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: Lock that up. 160 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Next up here, Detroit at home against Minnesota Vikings. We'll 161 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: see if JJ McCarthy's under center for this game. So 162 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: let's see if there's any early value we can glean 163 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: from this. Plus nine and a half here for Minnesota, 164 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: minus eight and a half for Detroit, forty seven and 165 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: a half or the over forty eight and a half 166 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: for the under plus four h three for the Minnesota Vikings, 167 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: who look they were not prepared. They got their buck 168 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: kicked in an out a conference game on a short 169 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: week on Thursday night, and they look like, I mean, 170 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: Carson Wentz looks like he never wants to go on 171 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: a football field again. He was in so much pain 172 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: at the end of that game. If JJ McCarthy's ready 173 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: or not, it doesn't matter. It feels like all systems 174 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: go here. Maybe he gives them a jolt Andrew, but 175 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: defensively they haven't done enough. Offensively haven't done enough, they admitted, 176 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell said, we weren't. We didn't come to play, 177 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: and that's a problem. And if they were just looking 178 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: ahead on the schedule to this game. But in a 179 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: lot of ways, this is their season. They're going to 180 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: be three and five if they lose this game and 181 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: another loss to an indivision opponent, that's not good. So 182 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: where do you want to land here on this one? 183 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: Is it just as simple over as it always is 184 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: in Detroit at forty seven and a half? 185 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: I think so. I think that's the play for me. 186 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: The lines feel pretty big, especially eight and a half, 187 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: nine and a half points in a division game in 188 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings obviously licking their wounds after getting you know. 189 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 4: Truck sticked by Comaynie Videll and the Los. 190 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers and already Gadsten just they couldn't stop anything, 191 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: and you think, oh, Vikings, you know extra time, you know, 192 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: coming up with those nine game Well, the lines are 193 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: coming off of bye week, so it does there's no 194 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: rest advantage there for anything. The lines are going to 195 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: be even more well rested, so they're probably a lot 196 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: to put up thirty nine floors. Defense this year has 197 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: just been oh boom or bust. Right, there are some 198 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: games where it looks like it's lights out. There are 199 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: other games where they're just getting absolutely viscerated. You know, 200 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: when you're a blitz heavy defense, sometimes it works and 201 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: sometimes you get absolutely burned on the back end. So 202 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: their defense to beginning up a lot of points. I 203 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: think we just see points in this game, and I 204 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: think the Vikings are fingers crossed that they do get 205 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: Jaji McCarthy and they get the good version of Jigit Marthy. 206 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: No, we have not seen that much of him. 207 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we've only seen one quarter of. 208 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: It, so that maybe that may all you That may 209 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: that maybe all we need to have the total go 210 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: over at the points. 211 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's fair enough. All right. 212 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: Next game we have up here four Week nine in 213 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: the NFL. Chicago four and three Cincinnati three and five. 214 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: They're terrible loss at home for them to the New 215 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: York Jets. I mean, a game that you just can't lose. 216 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: But that defense is just so bad on Caleb Williams. Also, 217 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: you know, fourth quarter of that game. Throwing that bad 218 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: pick there in his own territory just horrible. I mean, 219 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: it just gives the game away there. So just bad 220 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: job by Kayleb Williams. Now, regardless, they are still favorites. 221 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: In this game, which again makes me uncomfortable on the road. 222 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: One and a half minus one and a half. You're 223 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: getting on Chicago. 224 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: Cincinnati at home underdogs plus two and a half after embarrassing. 225 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: Loss to the Jets. 226 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: The total for this game over forty one and a 227 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: half under fifty two and a half minus won twenty 228 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: on the money line for Chicago plus one twelve. 229 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: For the Bengals. 230 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: I kind of want to just blindly bet the Bengals 231 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: here where there's value after that terrible Jets lost there 232 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: at home. The defense is awful, we know that, but 233 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams makes mistakes, and I don't know. I think 234 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: I'll just take the plus money on the money line 235 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: here and be done with it. That's where I'm at. 236 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: Just Bengals for the victory here, bouncing back after a 237 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: bad loss this past week. 238 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: What do you think? 239 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: Why are the Bengals not favorites? 240 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 241 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: I think this line is wrong, I do. I just 242 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: the flat out run. I made a couple of weeks 243 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: ago I pointed out that that Charger Colts line was 244 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: just wrong, that the Colts weren't favored in that game 245 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: just because it was on the road. 246 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: I was like, why, how we watched the Chargers. 247 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: Play and the Colts played. Colts look really good and 248 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: little what's seven to one? Now the Colts one? 249 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 250 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: So yeah. 251 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: I mean when I was handicapping this game for our projections, 252 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: I had the Bengals listed as what did I have 253 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: them at three point favorites playing at home against I mean, yeah, 254 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: the Bengals feels so it is the Bears defense. Did 255 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: you have thirty points to Tyler Hontley? Yeah, right, so yeah, 256 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: I think that offensively, Joe Burrow or excuse me, Joe 257 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: Flacco was shown that hey, this Vengo's office can score 258 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: a lot of points with all the offensive, explosive playmakers. 259 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 3: I will say that Flaco did get banged up a 260 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: little bit towards the end. 261 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: Of the game. 262 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: He did come back, but just again, you don't want 263 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: to bend the Bengals of Jake Browning as the quarterback. 264 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe if this line is kind 265 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: of taking to consideration. Maybe it isn't Joe Flacco that 266 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: So that's just something that I would just practice some 267 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: hesitance about. But besides that, yeah, I like the Bengals 268 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: here at home. 269 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, besides the over in the Detroit game, I think 270 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: the Bengals money line my two favorite bets of the 271 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: games we've done so far. 272 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk. 273 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: About the hard Rock Bet Sports at because that is 274 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: the sponsor of our show, and it's Monday Week eight 275 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: closes out tonight with Washington versus Kansas City, And of 276 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: course you know at hard Rock Bet stats Hub they've 277 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: got all the stats and the streaks and the live 278 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: odds to bet them. 279 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: And Terry McLaurin right now. 280 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: Fifty three plus receiving yards and seventh straight October games. 281 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: If you want to bet on his over, it's forty 282 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: seven and a half and you can do that at 283 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: hard Rock Bets stats Hub and at hard Rock Bet 284 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: Sports Book. 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Over 311 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: thirty nine and a half, under forty and a half, 312 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: minus one oh four for Denver's the best number you're 313 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: gonna find. But you get even money for Houston at home. 314 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: I will lean on Denver on this one. I know CJ. 315 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Stroud coming off a big game there. It was fun 316 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: to have the rookie wide receivers getting some work there. 317 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: You saw Jayden Haigan's get a touchdown, you saw. 318 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Nol working. That's great. 319 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: Are they gonna use them when Nico comes back? 320 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: That's the big question. 321 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: So that offensive line is still not great. I know 322 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: Denver took some injuries to on the defensive side. So 323 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: where do you want to go here on this one? 324 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: Do you see in the early value or any strong 325 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: feelings you have, because Vegas is basically telling you this 326 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: is as tight as a guest. 327 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: I think for me, it's I like, probably the Houston side, right. 328 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: I think that their defense is better than the never 329 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: Broncos defenses, especially if they're dealing with some injuries or 330 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: Tan got banged up against the Dallas Cowboys, I think 331 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: that he being a factor plays significantly into if you're 332 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: trying to handicap to spread again, one of the best 333 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: defensive players in the NFL, and Houston's at home, and 334 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: Houston's defense is not just number one in terms of 335 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: scoring defense this season, but it's historically good in terms 336 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: of allowing points. So we've seen this a lot where 337 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: one week a quarterback plays the Dallas Cowboys looks like 338 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 3: Tom Brady. The next week they play somebody that's significantly 339 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: better and they don't look anything like they did the 340 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 3: week before. So it's been a couple I think, really 341 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: good matches for bo Nicks Las two weeks. If it's 342 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: the Giants shredded him in the fourth quarter last week, 343 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: shredded the Dallas Cowboys on the road against Houston, who 344 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: has basically locked down every offense that they have faced. 345 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: I mean, forty nine ers looked way out of sorts 346 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: against this defense. Seattle a couple of weeks ago, they 347 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: couldn't move the ball effectively on Houston, and they couldn't 348 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: they turned them all over a bunch of times. It 349 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: was only because the Texans offense couldn't score that they 350 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: end up winning that game. So I actually like the 351 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: Texans here. 352 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: I would. 353 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: I also liked the under in the game too, but 354 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 3: I want to make sure that Certan plays because he 355 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: obviously is a major factor. 356 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Certan injury is certainly a huge factor in this game. 357 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. But I get what you're saying. 358 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: This one is tough for me for sure too. Do 359 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: you like any shades on the under here at forty 360 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: and a half or is that not? 361 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: Again, if Certan plays, like that's kind of what I 362 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: want to know. Also, be Nico Collins, Like, sometimes we 363 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: see concussions where it's your back the next week, and 364 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: then sometimes we see them linger where they miss a 365 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: true week. 366 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: So again, that was one of. 367 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: My best bets this past week was the Texans for 368 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: and narrow tam going under the total, which it did 369 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: by I think a half a point or one and 370 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: a half points, And part of that was, well, the 371 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: Texans don't have their most explosive playmaker on offense in 372 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: Nico Collens, so I think that he matters significantly when 373 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: you're looking at total for this contest. 374 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: All right, Next up here on the list of games, 375 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: we have the New York Giants, who will be without 376 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: Cam Skataboo for the rest of the year, which sucks. 377 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: I feel like we are all without Cam Scataboo the 378 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: rest of the year. 379 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: It's fun. 380 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Fantasy football is fun. Betting on football is fun. It's 381 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: more fun when Cam Scataboo's playing, but he's not. So 382 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: Now we have the San Francisco forty nine ers. Maybe 383 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: they get brock Perty back this week, who knows. I mean, 384 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: it just keeps going and going. It's crazy here. Minus 385 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: two and a half here for San Francisco on the road, 386 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: plus three on the Giant side, forty six and a 387 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: half of the over, forty seven and a half of 388 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: the under minus one forty five is the best line 389 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: for the San Francisco money line, and plus one thirty 390 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: five for the Giants. I'll take the two and a 391 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: half with the forty nine ers here on this one too. 392 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: There's too many injuries here for the Giants. No neighbors, 393 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: no Scataboo. I just think finding offense is gonna be hard, 394 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: even at home. Like Jackson Dart. 395 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Still fun, still can make plays with his legs. 396 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I think the 397 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, whoever's under center, is gonna be able 398 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: to handle the Giants. 399 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Your thoughts this. 400 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: Game might be a stay away from me. 401 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: I don't know who's left on either of these teams. 402 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: The Giants losing offensive player every single week and the 403 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers defense, Joe, they might need to call 404 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: up your football team because they have nobody like every 405 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: play defense. Everybody defense champions their defense. 406 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, d equals w's This is what I always say. 407 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: You played defense. 408 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: You gotta win football games, great turnovers, that's what you do, right, 409 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, they definitely need some more help, 410 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. It's unfortunately, so you think 411 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: this is a trap. You think the Giants can just 412 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: come out here with a plus one thirty five victory, 413 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: maybe sneak one. 414 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: Out, especially because they're at home and Dack Snard has 415 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: been much better of a quarterback at home than he's 416 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: been on the road. 417 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: And when you have a. 418 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: Mobile quarterback, it's it just takes that one big play 419 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: that he can make with his legs, and he calls 420 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: his own number and he makes a fantastic play. 421 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: Again. 422 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: It's hard for me to constantly bet on the forty 423 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: nine Ers when I don't know who's playing half of 424 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: the game. I don't know who the quarterback is, I 425 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: don't know who's playing on defense. So it's hard for me. Yeah, 426 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: just lay the points of the forty nine ers on 427 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: the road when I don't know who's actually gonna be 428 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: taking the field. So I don't think this line's going 429 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: to move too dramatically. So this will be one that 430 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: I do a little bit more of a deeper dive 431 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: in the primer this week, and then you guys can 432 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: read about it on Friday. 433 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: All right, Pittsburgh Steelers at home again, underdogs again. 434 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: How'd that work out for you? Interroll this week? Andrew, 435 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember not great, Yeah, not great, not great. 436 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: Steelers is just not that great. 437 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: I hate to break it to people, like, I know 438 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: they're four and three, but they're not that great. The Colts, 439 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: on the other hand, I think are very good. Minus 440 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: three on the road plus three and a half for 441 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh forty nine and a half for the over, forty 442 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: nine and a half for the under, minus one fifty 443 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: five on the money line for the Napolis Colts, plus 444 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: one forty one for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I get it, 445 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: tom as an underdog at home, off off of the whatever, 446 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear. The Apolis Colts I think 447 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: are just a superior football team on both sides of 448 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: the football too. I mean defensively the collapse of the 449 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Sewers yesterday. Aaron Rodgers, no matter what Chris Collins 450 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: or to tell you, is not mobile in the pocket 451 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: or I don't care what he wants to tell like, 452 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: he does not move that well. I think the Colts 453 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: are gonna be prepared. I think this is a big 454 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: test for them going on the road, and I think 455 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna be ready for it. I like the Colts 456 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: with the three here. I'm very I'm very confident in this, 457 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: maybe more confident than I should be. But the season 458 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: that Jonathan Taylor's having, the way they control the tempo 459 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: of the game, the way that run game is clicking 460 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: right now. The offensive line is playing great. Lou and 461 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: Romo is doing a good job on defense here. I 462 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: know it's easy to look good against the Titans, but 463 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: they've looked good against everybody. They go lookd against the 464 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: Chargers a couple weeks ago, and I think the Chargers 465 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: are a better football team than the Steelers. 466 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: Hot take. 467 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: So what do you think about this one? Am I 468 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: crazy with my confidence? Or should I be looking once 469 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: again for Mike Tomlin as the underdog? 470 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: Well, the thing with Mike Toman as an underdog, and 471 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: again I have to pull up like the exact stats. 472 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: But part of that trend and why it's are successful 473 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: is because Mike Tomlin is known for having good defenses. 474 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: Which is not the case of whatsoever in this season. 475 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't have a good defense, but he sure 476 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: does have an expensive one. 477 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: Just putting that out there. 478 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: I would say, like relatively speaking, Aaron Rodgers, how he's 479 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: played this year collectively, He's held up his end of 480 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: the bargain when it comes to the Steelers quarterback play, 481 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: what he's doing versus what they've seen and what they've 482 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: gotten out of quarterback play over the last couple of 483 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: seasons in the post Ben Roethlisberger era. So I don't 484 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: think Rogers is like the major problem for the Steelers. 485 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: I think it's their defense, like they can't stop anybody 486 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: on the ground or through the air. The playing all 487 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: this man coverage and doesn't do anything. So I will 488 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: go with the Colts here because Shane Stichen has a favorite. 489 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: He was bawling out successfully as a favorite before Daniel 490 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: Jones got there. And all they're doing is a steamrolling 491 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: team after team every single week. 492 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: So are the. 493 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: Steelers the team that's going to be the one that 494 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: bites back? 495 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 496 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: Nothing I've seen from the Steelers defense suggests that they're 497 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: gonna be able to slow down Jonathan Taylor and this 498 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: Colts high flying offense. So I guess maybe the only 499 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: thing is it's in Pittsburgh on the road. Make sure 500 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: there's no weather in innercations here, because that's something to 501 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: keep in mind. It is a Dome team playing on 502 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: the road in November. Again, I don't have any early 503 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: weather reports, but that's something to keep in mind. 504 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what I mean, but they're a team that 505 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: moves the football and runs like they can run the football. 506 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: Still a don't team though, and Daniel Jones is a 507 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: Dome quarterback, so that's something that I think is something 508 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: to keep in mind, especially when you're when you're betting 509 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: early on some of these games, it doesn't hurt to 510 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: just give a quick check to the weather report, because 511 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: we are going to get more weather implications with weather, 512 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: with rain, with cold as we get into the November 513 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: December types of months. 514 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: All right, next up here again, I'm I'm taking the 515 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: three tell you right now. By the way, Steelers have 516 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: the highest paid defense in the league, one hundred and 517 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: seventy nine million dollars of their salaries going to defense. 518 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: Didn't look like a good spend last night. Let's go 519 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: to Los Angeles here five and three taken on the 520 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans one and seven. This is a game the 521 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: Chargers can roll here, they have extra rest. The Titans 522 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: are terrible. I'm actually surprised it's only minus eight. I 523 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: would jump on this one right now. Plus ten and 524 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: a half on Tennessee side, I would jump on this 525 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: minus eight. 526 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Now. I don't understand this line. 527 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: All forty two and a half for the over, forty 528 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: three and a half of the under, and of course 529 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 2: the upset plus four fifty two, which I don't think 530 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: any of us are looking at. 531 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: So I think the Chargers' role here. 532 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: I think they've got something in Gaston mcconkey's come back 533 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: around to life. By now looks sharp. Titans are terrible. 534 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: This is easy for me. I don't think eight is enough. 535 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: They should be a double digit game. What do you think? 536 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: I am always weary of laying the points with the 537 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: team double digits on the road, even is the Tennessee Titans. 538 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: I actually like the under the most in this game. 539 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: I don't have the exact trend pulled up, but it'll 540 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: be part of the betting pros primer this week. But 541 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: when the Chargers under Harbaugh have played on the East Coast, 542 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: those games have heavily skewed towards the under. So although 543 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: the Chargers should win this game, I don't think we're 544 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: going to see them have an offensive juggernaut performance, especially 545 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: after Thursday night, where the Chargers can't be stopped like 546 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: their offense is unstoppable. That doesn't always carry over. So 547 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 3: I would say that this is probably more of an 548 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: underplay for me than laying double digit points on the road, 549 00:21:59,080 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: So that's just me. 550 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough there. 551 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: I will be comfortable with this, so I'm good lock 552 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: in the eighth. Let's go next up here the Atlanta 553 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: Falcons three and four. We'll see appendix is back. Got 554 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: to say, lookin just super disappointing in that one gig 555 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: on our New England Patriots, who are now six and 556 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: two they should be seven and one. But whatever, We're here, 557 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: still there, ready to go. They are minus four and 558 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: a half at home, plus five and a half on 559 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: the Atlanta side right now as they travel on the 560 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: road to New England. Forty four and a half for 561 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: the over, forty five and a half for the under, 562 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: plus two fifteen on the money line for an upset 563 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: for here for the Falcons. So look, Drake may is 564 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: playing really good football. Defense is playing well. I know 565 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: the Falcons defensive unit is good. I know they just 566 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: came off a weird ass kicking and sometimes those become 567 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: dangerous games. But I don't know, man. I think New 568 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: England's feeling it. The crowd yesterday is starting to come 569 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: back a little bit. It's starting to feel like the 570 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: Patriots of old, and that's a dangerous thing right now. 571 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: For the Atlanta Falcons four and a half, it's a 572 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: little bit more than I want it to be. But 573 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: I think I'm still on the side of the path here. 574 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: What do you think? 575 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: I like the Patriots here. 576 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: The Falcons, their defense is kind of banged up, and 577 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: we've kind of seen them regress over the last couple 578 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: of weeks because of some of these key injuries. So yeah, 579 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: I like the Patriot. Drake Mays playing at an unreal 580 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: elite level right now. He's making plays left and right. 581 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: They finally got tre Van Henderson going a little bit 582 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: last week, so that's a positive sign for his development. 583 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: Is an expulsive rookie just adds another element to this team. 584 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: But I mean everyone that Drake May is throwing the 585 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: ball to, just guys are stepping up left and right. 586 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: MATC Collins is out there making plays and he is 587 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: more of an incillary piece to this offense. But Keayshaw 588 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 3: Moodies catches another touchdowns, Stefan Diggs finally scores, and even 589 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: in a down game for Ramandre like Drake May is 590 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: able to pick up the slack and win the game 591 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: through the air against I mean, Miles Garrett. 592 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: I feel so bad for that guy. Like that guy 593 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: is an absolutely. 594 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: One man wrecking machine and he's never gonna like I mean, 595 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: he's more playoff wins than TJ. 596 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Watt. 597 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: But besides that, like. 598 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: Not many accolades for him in the win lost colum 599 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 3: so maybe he can go to a contender. But although 600 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 3: he did get paid by the Browns. 601 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: So look, there's a lot of quarterbacks that fold when 602 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett sacked them five times in the game, but 603 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: Drake May did not, and I think that's another thing 604 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: to put the feather in another cap there for him. 605 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: So all right, we're both confident there with that one 606 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Raiders for the next one. So both these teams 607 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: coming off of buy so no real advantage there minus 608 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: three for Jacksonville plus three and a half for Vegas, 609 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 2: forty three and a half of the over, forty four 610 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 2: and a half of the under, plus one fifty two 611 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: for Vegas on the money line. Talk to me Andrew 612 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: about Vegas Jacksonville. 613 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: This feels like one of these four range outcome games 614 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: because I totally get it. 615 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: Sure does's done it. 616 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: The Jaguars should be better than the Raiders, but the 617 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: redistra at home. So let's just get the Jaguars a 618 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: field goal right like that. 619 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: And do the Raiders get a healthy brock Boers back 620 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: and like go, like, what does that look like? Because 621 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: I really haven't seen that this year. Like there's so 622 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: many outcomes. I'm with you, this is a stay away too. 623 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because we should see different things from both 624 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: taps coming off of their bye week doing things differently. 625 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: Liam Cohen trying to shake things up in the offense 626 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: to get more Travis Hunter on the off side of 627 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: the ball. Brian Thomas Junior. Is he one hundred percent healthy? 628 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: And like you said, getting Rock Bauers back matters so significantly. 629 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: He is the Raiders' best player besides Ashton Genty, so 630 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: if he is back in the fold, that makes a difference. 631 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: So if I would pick anything right now, would probably 632 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: be Raiders plus three and a half. Like that's probably 633 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: the line that I would take. But like you said, him, 634 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: come and talk to the beginning, it's probably a game 635 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: that I'm probably going to shy away from unless I 636 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: see some trend I really like later in the. 637 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: Week, Saints and Rams up next. 638 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: I still don't understand why the Saints took Spencer Ratler 639 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: on that game. 640 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 641 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: This is just time to look at Tyler shuck this 642 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: early in the season or halfway through. I don't feel 643 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: like it is. Spencer Ratler has been okay, not great, 644 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: but he's been good enough. I think that game would 645 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: have been a little closer if he played the whole time. 646 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: But whatever, I'm not the head coach. Maybe we'll see Shuck. 647 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: If we do, I might be more comfortable with this line. 648 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: But the Rams coming off a bye, they are going 649 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: to be minus twelve and a half favorites in this game. 650 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: You're finding plus fourteen for New Orleans, which is a 651 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: huge number, but again, a lot of us is based 652 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: on who's playing QB Monday. 653 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: We don't know that we can guess. 654 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: If they go back to Rattler or Shuck. I don't 655 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: know if Andrew has a feeling about that. Forty four 656 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: is the over, forty four and a half the under 657 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: plus seven seventy for an upset, which I don't think 658 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: any of us think is going to happen. So the 659 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: question is not Rams victory, question is by how much. 660 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to probably fade the side here. I think 661 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: I'd probably just bet the over on the game. 662 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: You get two dome teams, teams that can score points, 663 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: and the Saints. Yeah, they're not great. But they're not 664 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: afraid to just drop back to throw them all fifty times, 665 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: So that kind of scares me from like a backdoor 666 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 3: cover with the Rams. Rams traditionally haven't been that great 667 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: covering these large spreads at home. Usually they're much better 668 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: value to bet on the road because usually you're getting 669 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: a better value on some of the spreads. So Kellen Moore, 670 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: he's still a good head coach in terms of offensive 671 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: play design. So I think they can at least score 672 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: enough points to keep the Rams involved enough to keep 673 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: their pedal to the medal. And I like the op 674 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: in this game. 675 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: I like the team total for the Rams in this game. 676 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: That's my approach. I'm going to say from all that, 677 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: just to the Rams go out there and just Ram 678 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: score are some points. 679 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: That's what I gotta do. 680 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: Probably the Marquee matchup here, is you like that? Since 681 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: the Marquee matchup, we've got here coming up. Buffalo Bills 682 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: at home five and two, bouncing back after the bye, 683 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: so they had two losses than the bye and then 684 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: a big w yesterday against Carolina Kansas City. We'll see 685 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: what they do tonight. They are one point favorites though 686 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: on the road against the Buffalo Bills plus one and 687 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: a half, fifty one and a half for the over, 688 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: fifty one and a half for the under, getting even 689 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: money on the under there minus one twenty four case 690 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: plus one ten. I gotta tell you, I think Kansas 691 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 2: City is a more complete football team right now. I 692 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: want to see if they come out of this game 693 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: healthy and unscathed. I think it's great that James Cook 694 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 2: was working as much as he was, but look, I 695 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: mean it's not that we all know the Buffalo Bills 696 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: can beat the Chiefs, but I still have significant concerns 697 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: about the defense, especially with Ed Oliver being hurt now too. 698 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: He has a biceps injury, so they just got him 699 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: back and now they lost him again. 700 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: That's a huge loss. 701 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: There for the Buffalo Bills. So I'll take the Chiefs 702 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: in this one. 703 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: Just keeping it simple. 704 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: I'll think whoever the underdog is, because that's what the 705 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: trends are going to back up. The value is always 706 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 3: on who the market is undervaluing the most, and that's 707 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: also how you get the fattest payout, So that will 708 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: be my approach. You also have the Bills, so right now, 709 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: the Bills are the underdogs, but they are at home 710 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: and they have rest advantage. So that's enough for me 711 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: to take Buffalo in a game that again, like you said, 712 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: we know either team can win this game, and from 713 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: an entertainment standpoint, I would bet the over. Right, that's 714 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: how you enjoy these types of games. It's Mahomes versus 715 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: Josh Allen. The Chiefs offense looks like it's back, and 716 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: we'll see that continued, probably against the Washington Commanders in 717 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: Buffalo comes out of there by week puts up a 718 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: forty burger after they went through a two weeks stint 719 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: of scoring under thirty points when usually more often out 720 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: they are always putting up thirty plus points. So Bills 721 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: at home has been the home two overs. So I 722 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: think that's probably my best bet is just hey, don't 723 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: sweat the sides. Watch these two MVV quarterbacks go head 724 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: to head, score sixty points total, and that's how you 725 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: enjoy this game. 726 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: Look on BP right now, you're getting one without the 727 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: hook on Kansas City, So I want that now. 728 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: I want that now if you can get it. 729 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: Because once that hook comes in, it's like even less 730 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: that I would just go right to the money line 731 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: after that. But This is why I use the Betting 732 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: Pros app. So if you haven'tlready download the Betting Pros app, 733 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: used the tools, find the best lines, find the consensus, 734 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: there prop bet cheat sheet, betting systems tracking. All that 735 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: stuff is out there for you guys. So use all 736 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: the tools of Betting Pros. Don't forget to download the 737 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: app today. All right, Seattle coming off a bye, they'll 738 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: take on the Washington Commanders. We'll see if Jayden Daniels 739 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: is back for this game or not. Minus three for Seattle, 740 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: plus three and a half for Washington over forty five 741 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: and a half on Sunday night football under forty six 742 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: and a half and think getting plus one sixty on 743 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: the money line. Do you see any early value in 744 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: this contest? 745 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: Andrew, I think I would just take Seattle minus three. 746 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: This isn't on any intel about Jane Daniel's availability. This 747 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: is my intel about Last year was the Commander's special season, right, 748 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: everything kind of seems to go in their favor, and 749 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: this year seems like the total opposite, where everything. 750 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: Is going in the wrong direction. 751 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: They're not winning close games, their quarterback is constantly banged up, 752 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: the receivers are banged up, and I mean, if we're 753 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: talking about who's having a special season, it's the Seattle 754 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: Seahawks right coming off a bye week. One of the 755 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: best defense to the NFL. JSN has been one of 756 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: the best wide receivers in the NFL, both in fantasy 757 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: and in real life. So yeah, they're on the road, 758 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: but you know where Mike McDonald has lost one game 759 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: in his head coaching career as the Seahawks. 760 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: On the road. He's lost one time on the road. 761 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: So I love Seattle here. 762 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: Any whether Daniels plays or not, I don't care, And 763 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: I think that this line if we get more news 764 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: about Daniels maybe not playing, you're gonna see this line 765 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: jump in favor of the Seattle Seahawks move up to 766 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: I think it'd be close to like five five and 767 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: a half points if it's Marcus Mariota again as the starter. 768 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, take Seattle right on. 769 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: This would be my lock of the best early look 770 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: aheadline value you can get is on Seattle. 771 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: I like where heads at. 772 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: I think Seattle's a good football team, has played well, 773 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: and I think that that defense is better than people 774 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: gave a credit for it last year. You know, last 775 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: one here Monday Night football, and here we go Arizona 776 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: at Dallas. Arizona coming off there by week plus three 777 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: for them, we'll see if Kyler Murray plays minus two 778 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: and a half for Dallas, fifty. 779 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Three and a half is the over. I'll take the over, please, 780 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate you. 781 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: Stopping by fifty four and a half is the under 782 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: plus one thirty nine on the upset line here for 783 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. 784 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Look, I mean, there's no fix for what ails. 785 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys as far as I'm concerned, And it's 786 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: the defense. And Dak Prescott's playing great and he's got 787 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: everybody healthy and rock and rolling offensively. 788 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: But if you can't stop anybody, it's no good. 789 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: And the other thing, too is look for the team 790 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: total here for Dallas, they are scoring over thirty points 791 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: a game at home. So if you're getting any value there, again, 792 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: team total right there. I don't care if Arizona's coming 793 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: off of bye, don't care your thoughts on this last 794 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: contest on Monday Night for week nine. 795 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: They just can't make the Dallas Cowboy game totals any higher? 796 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 4: Can they? Nope? 797 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Not for me, not yet. We'll see maybe he gets there. 798 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see if we get Kyler Murray 799 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: playing for the Cardinals as the starting quarterback, whether he's 800 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 3: healthy or not, whether he's actually healthy or not, and 801 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: how they decide, because I feel better about Arizona if 802 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: Jacoby Presett is actually the starting quarterback, both on terms 803 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: of putting the game total over the fifty four and 804 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: a half points, because I think the offense just operates 805 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: better with Jacoby Brissett. So I think that it is 806 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: going to be Kyler, and for that reason, I will 807 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: take playing the points with Dallas at home. Dak Prescott 808 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: still again tough matchup last week against Denver. I still 809 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: think he's going to rebound here in a big way 810 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: at home. 811 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: I will take the Cowboys, all right. 812 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: So that's Week nine in a little bit of a 813 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: snapshot for you with the early values. Make sure you 814 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: place those bets over at hard Rock Bet and don't 815 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: forget to subscribe to the channel. 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