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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and we are back in the Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Such a new feel. You know, we haven't been in

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Speaker 2: studio in a while. We did all the combine stuff,

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Speaker 2: but now we know all that combine stuff. I'm tuned

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Speaker 2: into players. More guys like Mike Evans are signing, people

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Speaker 2: were getting released.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like stuff has had a week. From today,

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Speaker 1: right when we're doing this very show, the legal tampering

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Speaker 1: period will be open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one week that. I mean, we've got two shows

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Speaker 2: between now and the legal tampering period and we'll be

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Speaker 2: on live Wow, crazy going on, crazy, rumors flying around,

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Speaker 2: all kinds of cap moves happening. Maybe Justin Fields gets

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Speaker 2: traded or others. Who knows, but the league is rolling,

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Speaker 2: to say the least.

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Speaker 1: And so people know to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think despite all this, so I do

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Speaker 2: think his market isn't just what they thought about.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is either, and there's multiple reasons

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Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, we've talked at length about him as

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Speaker 1: a player, and he is not a super super clean No,

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Speaker 1: he's far from a polished prospect.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's still a prospect almost, but now you

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Speaker 2: have a couple of years to know that the works

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Speaker 2: are still there.

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Speaker 1: But here's how that kind of stuff these because one

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Speaker 1: of the big questions that I keep seeing out there,

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Speaker 1: one of the big statements that I keep seeing out

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Speaker 1: there on social media is that, well, why is it

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Speaker 1: the people in Pittsburgh are saying, no, the fields isn't

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Speaker 1: going to happen, or cousins isn't going to happen, or

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Speaker 1: whatever quarterback isn't going to happen, But the national guys

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Speaker 1: are reporting differently. Well, because the national guys are talking

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Speaker 1: to the agents, right, and the agents are trying to

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Speaker 1: create a market for their clients.

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Speaker 2: And it's a likely it's a spot that adds up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So you would throw that out there to say, boy,

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Speaker 2: there's four teams involved, the Steelers or one of them,

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Speaker 2: and they're all going to compete, and now his price

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Speaker 2: goes up and the twentieth pick in the fourth round

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Speaker 2: or second round isn't enough to get them.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing the team is that you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bears are out there trying to drum up interest

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Speaker 1: as well, Hey we've got aultiple teams. Well, maybe you don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've taught us this all so well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: let be very cautious of where the information is likely

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Speaker 2: coming from. Schefter doesn't make anything up and those guys.

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Speaker 1: But he's actually hearing this stuff. Yeah, but who is

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Speaker 1: he hearing it from?

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Speaker 2: And all those dudes that do the schefter type thing.

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Speaker 2: But who is it coming from? Who does it benefit

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Speaker 2: and why would they want it released?

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Speaker 1: You know, right, you know you're not hearing anything definitive

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Speaker 1: even close to definitive from the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we when we spoke with Omar Kahan

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Speaker 1: last week, he said, look, you know, we's it's my

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Speaker 1: job to have those kind of discussions, of course, and

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Speaker 1: he was asked, well, you know, are you interested in

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Speaker 1: justin Fielel. I'm not going to discuss that at this point.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to even if they were interested, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to say yes or no. Of course. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, he's talking glowingly about Kenny Pickett and

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Speaker 1: made some Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, right right, he is saying some things. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna get all three of them. And I've

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Speaker 2: got no indication that anyone really in the know has

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Speaker 2: leaked it from the building to anyone we know, well,

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Speaker 2: you know that. Oh, that's definitely their target. They've had

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Speaker 2: those conversations, of course.

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Speaker 1: Nor would they want to put that information out there, right,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Steelers, you don't want that. No, we're ears.

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Speaker 1: So could there be a potential or could there be

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Speaker 1: a scenario in which the Steelers would trade for Justin Fields? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Would it be for a second round pick? No, I

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Speaker 1: don't believe that it would be. Would it be for

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Speaker 1: be for that at this point either. I think our singer, well, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you one of our fourth round picks.

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Speaker 2: Or conditional pick next year. If he plays fifty percent

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Speaker 2: next year. We're not And this is gonna I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk a ton of combine a ton of

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Speaker 2: draft those fourth rounders and better. I really like more

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Speaker 1: Five of the top having five of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Really valuable, and who knows how it goes. But even

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Speaker 2: and pick up another one, you know, like, that's more

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Speaker 2: my bad. I want to get as many of these

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Speaker 2: picks on Day one and two that I possibly can,

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Speaker 2: including the fourth rounders.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even opposed to. And as much as I

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Speaker 1: much as I like having those two fourth round picks,

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Speaker 1: if I had to give up one of those to

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Speaker 1: maybe say, jump ahead of the Bengals to get a

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Speaker 2: Oh like they did last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say JC Latham. I'm just gonna throw the

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Speaker 1: name out there.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, let's set it on.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Latham is out there at pick fifteen, he's

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Speaker 1: I don't want to play against him. Well yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: b I really like the player. If I can get

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Speaker 1: four spots, which could be yeah, oh yeah, I mean that.

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Speaker 1: You know I'd be interested in that.

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Speaker 2: All ears on that. Yeah, yeah, I would too. But

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Speaker 2: there's so many tackles in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I understand.

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Speaker 2: I love nine of them. Yeah, I mean one of

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Speaker 2: them is gonna be there at twenty One of them

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Speaker 2: is better than most of those nine, or if not all.

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Speaker 2: Maybe so that that situation. Yes, But man, I'm just

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Speaker 2: warming up this draft a lot right now. Yeah, especially

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Speaker 2: not the last couple of rounds. But the guys that

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Speaker 2: were you know, spent the whole weekend watching the Combine.

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Speaker 2: We were at the Combine the whole week before that.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that could really help the

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Speaker 2: Steelers and are good fits.

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Speaker 1: The offensive lineman. I thought put on a show yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable show. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: They looked like basketball players out there being around and

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Speaker 1: like the like the slide drills and stuff. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Or their hands go the side to help raise them,

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Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. Not at all.

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Speaker 1: These guys were extremely balanced, extremely smooth in their movements.

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Speaker 2: Yep. I've said for a million years that the biggest

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Speaker 2: problem in discrepancy on the field is D Linman are

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Speaker 2: so much more athletic than O. Linman. This year might

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Speaker 2: to at least narrow that a little. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: They're not sloppy guys that I mean. No one looks

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Speaker 1: Seven guys were under four or five in the in

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Speaker 2: Yard shuttle, and I bet a lot of them didn't run.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I mean, those are like linebacker

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Speaker 2: Tanner Bordoline.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him before. Oh my got he ran

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Speaker 1: a four to eight short shuttle. Yea holy that's like

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Speaker 1: cornerback speed.

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Speaker 2: And short shuttle is a great, great indicator for O

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I didn't even look see how

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Speaker 2: I think he was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking here the guys, the guys who broke

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Speaker 2: So real quick. Those guys are both centers. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Dominic Pooney the guard out of Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Mason McCormick, the art out of South Dakota State

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Speaker 2: Oh, those are all like Day three type guys. I

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Speaker 1: Then you get to I mean, Joe All did a

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Speaker 1: You talk about basketball sign cornering like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean him and Mems are the two

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Speaker 2: are changing directions at a ridiculous rate, and not only

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Speaker 2: changing directions, but you're exploding out of a you know,

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Speaker 2: most underappreciated and most impressive position group drill of the

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Speaker 2: whole four days. Yeah, you know, the short shut awlignement

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Speaker 2: is again some of those talking about receivers forties all

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Speaker 1: But that's crazy looking here at the at the three

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Speaker 1: because I don't know if as many guys did the

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Speaker 2: Good, Yeah they did, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh so Bordolini and that seven to one six.

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Speaker 2: And he was also like the best forty guy, the

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Speaker 2: best ten guy. I mean like, yeah, their cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: She didn't do the three cones drill in seven to

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Speaker 2: No, that's like Smith and Jig. But last year, you know, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And again number two Dylan McMahon again seven two six,

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Speaker 1: Joe Alt seven three one six nine, seven three Honkers

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Speaker 1: Drake NuGen at seven three three like.

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Speaker 2: Another one had a good seven three. The only centers

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Speaker 2: Yeah he just happened to be a bigger body. But

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Speaker 1: The could be as many as twelve offensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: Know, then it becomes a question if seven offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know if that happened again, chop Robinson

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to a break here, Matt, and then

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Speaker 2: Don't even do something.

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Speaker 1: He did his post Combine draft.

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: more right after this. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson, and this is the drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. And as we mentioned, our buddy

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Speaker 2: The ship on the Yeah, we get that signed up.

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Speaker 1: Try to do that this year. And he had too

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Speaker 2: Do NFL dot get really booked, really fast, and you

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Speaker 2: got to get them ahead. You can't just have them, no.

441
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Speaker 2: And then he went by and was talking to Starks

442
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Speaker 2: too while we were there. It's like that, I mean,

443
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 2: his dad coached him, and you know, so we got

444
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,879
Speaker 2: definitely hooked him up.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to do that.

446
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 2: But I like ten podcasts with Lance.

447
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Lance does all the lot, not all of them,

448
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,200
Speaker 1: but most of the thumbnails on the on the play

449
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com.

450
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane.

451
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 1: So he breaks down a lot of different tape here,

452
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Speaker 1: but he has his mock draft two point zero post combine.

453
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Speaker 2: He's also pretty doubed in with people telling him stuff too.

454
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, so he still has Caleb Williams going one.

455
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Speaker 1: I think that's done, Jadeen Daniels going to okay, interesting.

456
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 1: I like Daniels better than I like Williams. I get it.

457
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Speaker 2: Pull back the curtain. We are recording a live mock

458
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Speaker 2: draft tomorrow down to Steelers facility. So you and I

459
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 2: and I think Microstuda did his as well. Had to

460
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Speaker 2: do a mock draft.

461
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Speaker 1: We've all got it. I've already seen them. We've all

462
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Speaker 1: got a different guy at number one at quarterback.

463
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Speaker 2: Really, and then we also did our quarterback triple take

464
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Speaker 2: dot five. I think that's gonna want hardest one. First

465
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Speaker 2: of all, I haven't studied him like other positions because

466
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 2: none of those three are going to be Steelers, so

467
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Speaker 2: that's still coming.

468
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: But I see a case for all three. The thing

469
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 1: that separates it from me that they're all Williams and

470
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: Daniels both have great accuracy.

471
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Speaker 2: Williams and Daniels.

472
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Speaker 1: Yes, but Daniels is an elite runner.

473
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Speaker 2: He's an elite runner.

474
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Speaker 1: The other two are really good, they're good, really good.

475
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Speaker 2: But he's an elite.

476
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Speaker 1: He's an elite, right, he is scary, Like, Okay, this guy,

477
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Speaker 1: and you know he's still good.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean he had the best season of them all.

479
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Speaker 2: He won the right.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean rush for a thousand yards in each

481
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Speaker 1: of the last two seasons in college.

482
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Speaker 2: And he looks like a thousand yard NFL rusher. Yeah.

483
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Speaker 1: And the thing about the thing about the rushing yards

484
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: in college, when you get sacked, that's a negative rush.

485
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Speaker 1: That's negative rushing yards.

486
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Speaker 2: Good point. Yeah, No, there's a lot to like.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think he's the scariest of the the

488
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Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, Drake may going three to

489
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Then he has Malik Neighbors and more.

490
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 2: Boy, I think Neighbors is awesome. I still think that's

491
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Speaker 2: a bit of a stretch.

492
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think some of the pro day

493
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Speaker 1: stuff might.

494
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Harrison's done nothing. He doesn't have a

495
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Speaker 2: way in. He said, He's, well, he's not gonna do anything.

496
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna do anything. Let's say, let's say Neighbors

497
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Speaker 1: goes out and runs a four three forty. Maybe Marvin's like,

498
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Speaker 1: that might be the tiebreaker for you if you because

499
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Speaker 1: they were close going into this, Neighbors is an elite prospect. Yeah,

500
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Speaker 1: I'm not taking at them in anything. You know, this

501
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: is these are these are two A plus prospects. If

502
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Speaker 1: this one goes out and runs, if I know that

503
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Speaker 1: he's a four to three guy.

504
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: I also wonder is the stuff Marvin's doing rubbing people

505
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Speaker 2: a little wrong and let ties not in his favor.

506
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Speaker 1: Kind of some of my feeling with Kayleb Williams as well,

507
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: exactly some of his stuff.

508
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: Because these guys high maintenance, they have their own businesses already.

509
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean, they've made a lot of money already.

510
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Speaker 1: You better be supremely above those guys. And I don't

511
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Speaker 1: think that he's supremely above Jaydon Daniels.

512
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: See, but I think Harrison's supremely above just about any

513
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Speaker 2: receiver prospect I've ever seen. But Neighbors is right there. Neighbors,

514
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Speaker 2: I mean, like that's yeah, it's in. Rome's a really

515
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Speaker 2: good and.

516
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Speaker 1: Rome is Rome will be the best receiver in most drafts.

517
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Speaker 2: People think he had a bad Combaine. They're bonkers.

518
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: Harrison then goes five to the Chargers.

519
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Speaker 2: Got it.

520
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: At six, j C. Latham goes to the Giants.

521
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Speaker 2: I had him going quite high in mine as well.

522
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Speaker 1: Uh. At seven, he was first the first tackle.

523
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

524
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Speaker 1: Joe Alt goes at seven to the Titans.

525
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they'd be thrilled with that, right, but they're

526
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Speaker 2: gonna get tackled there if they want it. I mean,

527
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Speaker 2: Titans are a great spot.

528
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: At eight, Versy goes to the Falcons. I didn't realize

529
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Speaker 1: versus A. He's a Pennsylvania kid.

530
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

531
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Speaker 1: He started his career at Sonny. Uh.

532
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Speaker 2: One of the New York j c's.

533
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Speaker 1: He or Greg greg getusso coach made Albany. Oh really yeah?

534
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Speaker 2: First they ever did with football was Greg was the

535
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Speaker 2: head coach.

536
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Speaker 1: O K, there you go, so Greg getuso is he

537
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: was now the coach at Sunny Albany was his They

538
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: found him in these from northwestern or northeastern Pennsylvania.

539
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: Then he transferred to Wories State. I knew he was

540
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: a tiny school. I didn't realize it was one of

541
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Speaker 2: those there.

542
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Speaker 1: You go at nine. He has projected trade up of

543
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Speaker 1: the Broncos going up to get J. J. McCarthy.

544
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Speaker 2: McCarthy okay.

545
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: At ten.

546
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Speaker 2: So he's presuming I assume that Atlanta already did something

547
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Speaker 2: at quarterback. Yeah, I mean, if he think McCarthy could

548
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: go nine, he'd go eighth.

549
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: At ten, the Jets take to Lacy Fuaga, the offensive

550
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: tackle from Oregon State. A lot of these tackles have

551
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: names that I get mixed. Shan is the one. Here's yes.

552
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if his is suffering a little just

553
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: because he hasn't stood out like crazy and his worst

554
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 2: game of the year was Ohio State at the end

555
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: of the year. And frankly that everyone else is just

556
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: on fire right now.

557
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: That's you know when people say, you know, should these

558
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: guys go there, here or there and work out? Yeah,

559
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: you're measuring your you know, go there and stand out

560
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: with these other guys. Yeah, you just made yourself a

561
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: bunch of money.

562
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Went and doubt to probably take the other guy, right, Yeah.

563
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: Because if it's close, and you know, the tape is close,

564
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: but I know what this guy is I saw him

565
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Speaker 1: work out. I like it. Okay, I'll take I'll take.

566
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: What I know is there's too much money involved here

567
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: to take an.

568
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: Unknown and in house visits will help a lot. In

569
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: those thirties, you will help a lot. I'm sure a

570
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: lot of these tackles are gonna be a lot of

571
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Speaker 2: the same buildings.

572
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: At eleven, Dallas Turner, the edge rusher out of Alabama,

573
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Speaker 1: goes to the Vikings.

574
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Speaker 2: There's a chance that's the first time a defensive player goes.

575
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Speaker 2: There's eleven. There's a chance.

576
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Speaker 1: At twelve, the Bears, they they moved down. Yeah, they

577
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Speaker 1: moved down, and they still get.

578
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: I say, Rome still out there dunes. Yeah, wow, that

579
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: would be I think I just take him where I

580
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: would have then and what that worked out great for them?

581
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. At thirteen, the Raiders take Byron Murphy, the second

582
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: to defensive tackle out of Texas. I get it.

583
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: You had a really good combine too, and they have

584
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: needs all over the place.

585
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Saints take Troy Fatanu, who we just

586
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: talked about in.

587
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: The I think they're really worried about Ramcheck's career. He

588
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: hit the bad injury.

589
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: Now again, this is so pre combine. This is a

590
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: guy that was going into twenties. This is probably more

591
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: realistic now.

592
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: I think it's more realistic. Yeah.

593
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. At fifteen, the Colts take brock Bowers.

594
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty happy about that for them.

595
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: At sixteen, the Seahawks take oulu Fashanu.

596
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: Boy imagine him falling that far and they don't even

597
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: really need a tackle. I just think they grab him

598
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: because he's too good a passing up and move.

599
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: On the other tack the other guys inside to guard

600
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: or play him at guards.

601
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, I mean, Jonathan Ogna play Gard's or here.

602
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: It's seventeen. The Jaguars take Terry and Arnold the corner

603
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: back out of Alabama.

604
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: Is that second corner or first?

605
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: That's the first?

606
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Mitchell didn't go yet. I think it's a two

607
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: horse race for first corner between those two. Wow, it's

608
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: pretty late.

609
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: At eighteen, the Bengals take Brian Thomas Junior.

610
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: I get it.

611
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: I think they're you know, they right tackle They trade

612
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: T Higgins.

613
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: They could trade T Higgins. They true. I mean, I

614
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: think a team like Carolina will offer them something for Higgins.

615
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't think Boyd will be bad.

616
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: It won't be a first but you could end up

617
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: getting a second fatigue, and which is why they franchised

618
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: them to protect themselves a little bit.

619
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: I had a hard time having Thomas, and then in the.

620
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: Mock I did work out.

621
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: I love them, I love him, love them, love them.

622
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if something crazy happened, like the Steelers traded

623
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: Deonte or something, I would take him, have no problem

624
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: taking him. At twenty, I'd have no problem in going here.

625
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: He fell farther in my mock than I wanted.

626
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: At nineteen, the Texans trade up ahead of the Steelers

627
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: with the Rams to get QUINNYA. Mitchell.

628
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I get that. I mean you put him off

629
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: as at Stingley. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

630
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: that's a nice yeah. And they're gonna get a lot

631
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 2: of stuff in free agency before that. They're in a

632
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: really good spot team building wise.

633
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: At twenty, then a lot of the tackles have gone. Yeah,

634
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers take Nate Wiggans, the cornerback out of Clemson.

635
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: Would you be thrilled with him at twenty?

636
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: Right now?

637
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: He was lean, he's lean, but.

638
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: Way is he explosive?

639
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: And he's also young.

640
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: He's young, he's younger and some of these other guys.

641
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like still twenty, I believe.

642
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: I think so too.

643
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: I mean, so is he gonna is his body going

644
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: to continue to fill out here?

645
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: I think he'll get a little heavier. I'm sure. I'm

646
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: sure he's gonna get a little heavier. And he was

647
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: lean for the combine to run a great forty fly. Yeah,

648
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: he's not as physical as they like in terms of

649
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: run support and all that, but I think he's a

650
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: top twenty player.

651
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I think in an ideal world,

652
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: they would have liked Quinya Mitchell in that scenario, Bigger,

653
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: more physical y, which is why the Texas traded up. Sure,

654
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: at twenty one, the Dolphins take Chop Robinson.

655
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: Could see that. I mean they have a lot of

656
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: needs too. Yeah, they're releasing guys left and right.

657
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: At twenty two, they Bills trade up to go get

658
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: l to late Law two the edge Rusher out of UCLA.

659
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: I guess shop falling. They're getting pretty thin that, you know.

660
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if I trade up for him, but yeah,

661
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: I get it. That one doesn't quite add up to me.

662
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: At twenty three, after trading down, the Rams take Tyler Geiton,

663
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle out of Oklahoma's got a bad consolation

664
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: prize to me, I think there those the tackles that

665
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: went before this. I think there's a little bit of

666
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: a separator there.

667
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: Mims. I get it.

668
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: They're they're just less proven. It. If I had seen

669
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: more of Mems and he played eight games in college, I.

670
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Know it's bombers. He has like four hundred snaps or something. Yeah.

671
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, to use a top twenty pick

672
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: on Mems, I would get it. Because of the athleticism.

673
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the most physically impressive.

674
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. But at the same time, that's all the mistakes

675
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: are made too, you know, Yeah, is he going to

676
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: play it all for you in year one?

677
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, who knows.

678
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Eight college starts, I.

679
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Get it, eight I get it. But he could be

680
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: the best of them all.

681
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 1: He could be.

682
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: People are like down on Guiton, like he had a

683
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: bad combine. That's insane too. Yeah, he just wasn't an

684
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: a plug. He doesn't have a lot of tape. No

685
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't. Yeah, I mean they two tackles draft. All

686
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: these teams had tackles drafted early. I mean they right,

687
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs and Sooners, i'd guys drafted last year.

688
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: At twenty four, then the Cowboys take Mims.

689
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: I could see that, although when I did my mock,

690
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't really know who to give the Cowboys. They

691
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: the tackles were gone. They kind of a run on them.

692
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Geiden would make.

693
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: A lot of sense to the Cowboys because it's the

694
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Oklahoma connection.

695
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't know Tyron Smith will be back.

696
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

697
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

698
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: At twenty five, the Packers take Graham Barton lineman out

699
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: of Duke.

700
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: He'd be fit in somewhere somewhere. Yeah.

701
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: At twenty six, the Buccaneers take kool Aid McKinstry, the

702
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: cornerback out of Tampa Bay.

703
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: I actually had him falling out of run one. I

704
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: didn't feel great about it, but I just thought the

705
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 2: injury might not be great. And I don't know if

706
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: he running forty, But I like the player. Yeah, that'd

707
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: be I thought about him with the Bucks there.

708
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: At twenty seven, the Cardinals take Jackson Powers Johnson, the

709
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: center out of Oregon.

710
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: Put him with Paris Johnson.

711
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

712
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty serious building blocks for your line.

713
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely. At twenty eight, after trading down, the Eagles take

714
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: a Donnie Mitchell. I can't see them take a wide

715
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: receiver out of Texas.

716
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: I can't see him taking a receiver.

717
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: The speed guy, Well, unless they think that they're not

718
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: going to be able to re sign.

719
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: Devonte Davonte up. I guess he's soon. I just figured

720
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: to be a corner or they always draft lineman. I

721
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: would never thought receiver for them.

722
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: At twenty nine, the Lions and take Darius Robinson.

723
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd fit in somewhere. It'll be a big end

724
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: for him. Right. That adds up to Yeah.

725
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: At thirty the Commander's trade up. Oh, from the second round.

726
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: They had a quarterback first, with.

727
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: The Ravens to take Cooper dejen Ah.

728
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: Nice.

729
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: They're's kind of out of sight, out of mind right now.

730
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: That's another one of those.

731
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: I mean, no one's there's no such thing as sleepers everymore.

732
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean these are first round guys. Yeah, he's one

733
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: of those that's not getting enough buzz because he had

734
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: done it lately. Yeah.

735
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: At thirty one, the forty nine Ers take the first

736
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. No, that's right, now, you are really so

737
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Jerson Newton or Johnny.

738
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: Newton is he's he's now Johnny right goes at.

739
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Thirty one to the forty nine ers.

740
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: I can see that, and I mean they're always into

741
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: more D line and the better, but their A line

742
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: needs a lot of work.

743
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: And at thirty two the Chiefs and take Xavier Worthy.

744
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which all the talk is, don't let them

745
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: get to the Chiefs. Don't let him go to the Chiefs.

746
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: I'd be more scared than say a Lad McConkey was

747
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: going to the Chiefs.

748
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: He's a better player.

749
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a better player. This catch a lot

750
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: more balls, right, This is DeShawn Jackson ted again. Yeah,

751
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: one of those type of specialty type players. They've had

752
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: those kind of guys, so they've always had those kind

753
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: of guys.

754
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: We did a very wide receiver centric podcast today and

755
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: basically crediting him. You know, the lead off was Evans

756
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: gets signed and he sets the record.

757
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Which is great, congrats.

758
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: It's an unbelievable feat. And my wife, who knows nothing

759
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: about sports or football, especially the combine, suffered through a

760
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: lot of combine.

761
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 1: On our main TV all week, as did my and

762
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, n look at that.

763
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: Watch this guy run and she went, WHOA, he looks

764
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: different than these other goofs. I've been watching.

765
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just set the record, you know, I mean

766
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: like time record, the all time record, and that's great.

767
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: So good for him. And he's not Dree archer side,

768
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, he's taller, but he's won sixty five. Right,

769
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: he's one sixty five, which to me is a massive

770
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: red flag, and he probably will play at one seventy five.

771
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: I think this whole goal there was to set the record,

772
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: the record because head so he'd be won seventy five

773
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: and be a four to two six.

774
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: Guys and be super fact. Yeah right, so that's great.

775
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean I just don't so my co host came

776
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: up with this number of the thirty fastest wide receiver

777
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: forties in Combine history. Hayward Bay's one. I mean there's

778
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: some names, there's names there. Yeah, only one of them

779
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: has ever had a thousand yard season, Like by no

780
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: means will be implying, Wow, that's a red flag. He's

781
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: too fast.

782
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: Was that Tyreek?

783
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: No, he didn't. He was invited because he was bad,

784
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: but I forget who it was. Dante Stalworth was okay,

785
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: but almost we went through every name and they were

786
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: almost a lot of them were bad football players when

787
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: they got there. Like he's gonna get He was a

788
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: better prospect than a lot of those dudes, but a

789
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: lot of them were just super highly overdrafted John Ross

790
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: just on speed, just based on speed, and there were

791
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: a lot of mistakes made there, and we threw it

792
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: out there. Not that it's one hundred percent true, but

793
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: we were. I was using this analogy, is he might

794
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: be a drag racer, you know, like, I mean, I

795
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: could fly down the field, but I want a NASCAR

796
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: that can bump a little bit and turn and you know,

797
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: like doesn't just pure speed. Skinny guys don't really translate

798
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: to the league that much. Yeah, and so good for him,

799
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean he I think he probably ends up in

800
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: the first round. But I wouldn't be like your should

801
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: take with twenty No, you know, no, I think there's

802
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of room for Eric that guy.

803
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: I'd rather allow McConkey there.

804
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: I think his teammates better than him, and I think

805
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: mcconkey's better than him. Yeah, I would do.

806
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: So, you know, that's that's all well and good. There

807
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: are some other receivers that were still on the board, receivers, Yeah,

808
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: that I might still take over him.

809
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: No, man, I mean the Day two. Receivers are really

810
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: strong honkers, really strong bonkers.

811
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, so if you look at that, let's let's

812
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: count the offensive lineman. There, you're looking at one, two, three,

813
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: uh four, five, five before the Steelers pink. Then you're

814
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: looking at uh six, seven, eight, nine.

815
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Wow, I think it's going to be nice.

816
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: That's it. Nine in the first round.

817
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure who the tenth would be. There's not

818
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: a pure guard. I don't think Fraser gets in round one.

819
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: Maybe the b y U kid is a project, Yeah,

820
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but I think there's nine that have

821
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: a really strong case.

822
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm with you.

823
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: And thirty two.

824
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Nine out of thirty two is a lot. Yeah quarterbacks

825
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: and four quarterbacks, a lot of receivers to three pass,

826
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: three edge rushers, three edge.

827
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: I think they're all pretty close to being guaranteed.

828
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Three guys that I considered defensive tackles.

829
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking too, Oh Robinson, Robins, He went, yeah, okay, yeah, agreed,

830
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: No off ball linebackers, no running backs, one tight end.

831
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: I mean I think that's real safe.

832
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the cornerbacks one two? Was it four

833
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: or five?

834
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, there was five. I mean the first round

835
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: shaping up pretty strong. Yeah, pretty much. Seem to have

836
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea who those thirty two will be,

837
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: more so than most years, I think, Yeah, I mean,

838
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: tackles aren't going to fall, Corners aren't going to fall.

839
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: What I wonder is, you know, when we had Tony

840
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Pauline on was that last Friday, Actually we had I

841
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: guess it was basically before the workouts really kicked in,

842
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he had counted twenty four

843
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: guys that he had with first round grades on him.

844
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: And when we say first round grades, those were twenty

845
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: four guys that he believes will definitely be first round guys.

846
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: And I forget what his number is, but I think

847
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: he said, I usually struggle to get to sixteen or seventeen, yeah,

848
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: which is something we talk about every year. Sometimes there's twelve. Right,

849
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: it's rough.

850
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if that number has gone up after seeing

851
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: it only went down. No, I don't think it went

852
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: down at all.

853
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: Down. I mean, who disappointed that is if we thought

854
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: it was a surefire first round. I mean, I don't

855
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: know quarterbacks aside.

856
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that Chop Robinson, for example, would have

857
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: been in the tent, would have been in the twenty

858
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: four before the workout, and he goes out and runs

859
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: a four or five. Yeah, agreed, and corners well and

860
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: does all that kind of stuff.

861
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: And even like the gene hasn't even worked out yet

862
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: or a couple of those guys we've got a little

863
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: from mems not a time, I mean, so, yeah, it's

864
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: it's a really good group. And again, a Steelers sitting

865
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: at twenty is better than most of you're sitting at twenty. Yeah,

866
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: that I very much.

867
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Believe if this were the scenario that came to Fruition.

868
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: You mean, like the first nineteen that are gone that.

869
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: Twenty I'm sorry, that first round, Yeah, I'm serious, you know,

870
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: and they end up taking a cornerback in the first round,

871
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: a good one. I'm giving serious consideration to moving up

872
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: to go get Frazier.

873
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: If it's not a center on the board or not

874
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: already on the roster. Yeah, yeah, he would be highly attractive.

875
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: I mean the receivers, you'll get somebody in the third round.

876
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, tackle you could punt on you know,

877
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: you don't have to, but they dry up pretty quick.

878
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: This is a totally different discussion, probably a whole segment

879
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: someday this week. But the day two corners are growing

880
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: on me too. There was like it was one hundred

881
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: years ago corners ran. But we went back and forth

882
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: with Melton and all these guys will.

883
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: Do our first post mak gud here to kick off

884
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: our number two. But I'm with you. I mean, I

885
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: think some of those guys were more appealing. I thought

886
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: when we were doing some of these mocks, and we're

887
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: getting these guys in round four, I don't know if

888
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen more. There's gonna be a guy there

889
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: that I'm like, take that guy and back.

890
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: To your Fraser point. I don't think he'll be there

891
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: in the fifties.

892
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he will. I think if you

893
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: want to go.

894
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: Get Basha Barton goes in brown one.

895
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a plug and probably a.

896
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: Top ten in the second round type of guy. Yeah,

897
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 2: which is where those centers and guards usually go right safe.

898
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: They usually hit you know, yeah a lot.

899
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot there to definitely like with that guy.

900
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a plug and play type player.

901
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, and would fit in extremely well.

902
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

903
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

904
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a little break here.

905
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

906
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt.

907
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: While we were in the Breakdore looking around here some

908
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: different league news and the Broncos are going to release

909
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, which we kind of knew, but yeah, nobody's

910
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: in a trade for him, because any gonna take on

911
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: the contract, you're.

912
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: Right, right right, which the contracts insane. It was a

913
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: terrible trade for Denver. It was a bad contract extension

914
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: for Denver. He's been a pretty bad player.

915
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: Denver's going to pay for that one for quite a while.

916
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: So we're talking about off the air. More ways than

917
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: one eighty five million of dead money with Wilson. The

918
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: league record before that was like thirty million for a player.

919
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: I think it was like Matt Ryan or something.

920
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: This would be like the Browns releasing Deshaun Watson after

921
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: this season.

922
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: I think this would be like one hundred and thirty

923
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: million if they were happen to do well after this season,

924
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: after the season.

925
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: Which if Watson had a bad year in twenty twenty.

926
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: Four or he gets in trouble or right right, right, right, yeah,

927
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: you know so I remember, like when the Broncos made

928
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: the trade and signed him, I remember us saying, well,

929
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: no way, you can get out of that contract for

930
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: two three years. You can if you want gone bad enough,

931
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: you can. I mean, it's unbelievably costly.

932
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: And this is the kind of thing that they might be.

933
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: The worst, you know, the league this year. They're gonna happen.

934
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: There's a couple of teams that are in really bad

935
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: shape that aren't gonna be able to improve much of

936
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: free agency.

937
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: When we're talking about some of these things with the quarterbacks.

938
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: This is now a guy who's worn out as welcome

939
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: in two different places very much, including one in which

940
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: he helped get to the Super Bowl and winning Super

941
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Bowl right right, and they got tired of it.

942
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: They got tired of me. He was not a great

943
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: player at the end of his Seahawks career. No, it

944
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: was about a year and a half there, his last

945
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: year a Seattle where he's his athleticism has dropped, and

946
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: he's short and he doesn't see the field very well.

947
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: So he doesn't maneuver and have the quickness to find

948
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: those throwing lanes like he used to. And he's has

949
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: other issues as well, but that's one of the things

950
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: that's happened to him.

951
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean Payton has worked with short quarterbacks in

952
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the past.

953
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like the best in the league at it.

954
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: And he said, you know what, I can't I can't

955
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: do this anymore or.

956
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: Ye, then we're gonna eat an massive amount I don't do.

957
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: We not want this guy. We're gonna we're gonna we

958
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: don't want him so badly.

959
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna pay someone else.

960
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay somebody else to play.

961
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: They haven't played, haven't played right, because he's gonna sign

962
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: a league minimum deal get his money, and that is

963
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: sort of appealing, the financial part for the next team.

964
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Do you think he's gonna be one of the thirty

965
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: two starters on opening Day?

966
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I think he wants to, you know, if you're the

967
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I.

968
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Think he's still want the thirty two best quarterback.

969
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: If you're the Atlanta Falcons, you say taking like the

970
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: Raiders where the Raid The Raiders would love the Raiders

971
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: would love to do that right to pay for pay

972
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: for the quarterback to plays against.

973
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: That, and maybe we've coming second division in your fourth division,

974
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: were paying his way, we.

975
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: Would beat you twice with the guy that you were

976
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: you were paying money to.

977
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: And then maybe draft one a year from now or whatever.

978
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: Because the Raiders could get shut out in the quarterback market.

979
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely they could spot You could do that now, you know,

980
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: as soon as he's released. Yeah, and you said, okay,

981
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: we're done, we don't need to go get a quarterback. No.

982
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean, at least it's something. I think he'll be

983
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: one of the thirty two. Yeah, I hope he doesn't

984
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: land here.

985
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be here because because

986
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: the thing is with Russell Wilson again, he wants to

987
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: be the starter. He's not going to want to come

988
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: in and compete to be the starter.

989
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: No, and then whether it's a good guy or not,

990
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: it becomes a distraction, you know, like he's a big personality.

991
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: I mean some of these things. I remember when Carolina

992
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: got rid of Cam Newton, it wasn't because he couldn't

993
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: play anymore. It was like, it's I've actually gotten that wrong,

994
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: Like they got rid of Steve Smith. When Cam Newton

995
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: became the man because they wanted Cam to be the

996
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: locker room guy. You see the lot where and that's

997
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: it also happened at the end of Newton's career where

998
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: he could still play, but you don't want him coming

999
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: in and competing with Mac Jones.

1000
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: You know, when its attraction.

1001
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a big he's an MVP, super Bowl winner,

1002
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: borderline Hall of Fame type guy.

1003
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: It can make your it can it can fracture your

1004
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: locker room.

1005
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not Flacco, you know. I mean, it's not Tannehill,

1006
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: and it's their bigger personalities than that, and it's not

1007
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: necessarily good for the team.

1008
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have officially placed the franchise tag on Lagarious Sneed.

1009
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: Okay, there's some rumors that there they might entertain trades.

1010
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, Chris Jones will probably get signed.

1011
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Then they probably do that. You know, if they do that,

1012
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: they probably can't afford to keep it. So yeah, rumors. Yeah,

1013
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: the rumors are a second round draft pick could get it,

1014
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: could get it done for Lagarious Sneed. But it's a

1015
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: second round draft pick and then you get.

1016
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Paid and pay him right now.

1017
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: You can do that. It makes some sense in in

1018
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: regard to you could you could get that contract cheap

1019
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: the first year you can? You can you can and

1020
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: make it work for year one. So in some respects

1021
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: that makes okay if you can. If I can get

1022
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: lagerious sneed a second round draft pick and he's only

1023
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: going to cost me ten million against the cap.

1024
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: And ye yeah, like I'm thinking about Houston, Like that

1025
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: mock draft we just ran, they had Houston take a

1026
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: corner in round one. Yeah, well they have a late

1027
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: second their playoff team, they got a ton of cap space. Okay,

1028
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: I could see them doing that. Yeah, you know, I

1029
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: mean where it wouldn't hurt them that bad finagle the contract.

1030
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: But all in all, I think the league has taught us.

1031
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: But you have to pay twice for a big time player,

1032
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: you usually lose. And what I mean by that is

1033
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: jack picks and then playing them and pay them like

1034
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: you're double dipping. Man.

1035
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, the player better be outstanding.

1036
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: Outstanding. I mean, like even what they gave it for

1037
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: Mac and some of the guys that were good, you

1038
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: probably were the short end of the stick.

1039
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. There's also a report over the weekend that

1040
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: the Dolphins will not use the franchise tag on Christian Wilkins.

1041
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: They can't afford dinner cap hell, I think i'd love to.

1042
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: I don't think that's reflection of the player. I mean

1043
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: they're cutting Howard and guys left and right.

1044
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: As we sit here right there in trouble on March

1045
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: to fourth. Yeah, if you had to, which which AFC

1046
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: playoff team from a year ago doesn't make it back?

1047
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are on top.

1048
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Screen because I think Buffalo is gonna get hit hard

1049
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: in free agency, but that they still Josh Allen, I

1050
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: think they probably still win the division, or at least.

1051
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Miami's getting hit hard. Before we even get into free agency.

1052
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: They're cutting players left and right. We can't afford that guy,

1053
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: can't Zavian Howard are gone.

1054
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean it basically says Wilkins won't be back. He's

1055
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: their top five best players, you know, Yeah, tough guy

1056
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: to replace. You're not gonna get him in the draft.

1057
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: And this is the problem again when you when you

1058
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: make a trade like they did to go get Tyreek Hill,

1059
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: you better win.

1060
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they're their draft capital since that trade is

1061
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: like the worst in the league, and they're also paying

1062
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: other things too. I mean Jalen Ramsey's not cheap and

1063
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: all these guys that are expensive and your quarterback hasn't

1064
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: been paid yet, right, And I think they're in a

1065
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: bad spot.

1066
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, So they're gonna they're gonna lose way

1067
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: more than they gain, and I don't think they can

1068
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: afford it. No, I don't think they can't eat.

1069
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: Chiefs, lose Jones or Snead. No one's crying for them.

1070
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 2: They'll probably be okay, you know. And even the Bills

1071
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: are going to lose more than they gain, but it'll

1072
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: probably be okay. He's still get in the league court.

1073
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also Jason Kelsey made it official

1074
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: he has retired after thirteen seasons in the NFL. Who's

1075
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: the number one center now in the league in the

1076
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: league with Kelsey retiring?

1077
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: Rag now is really good.

1078
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to say Ragnew.

1079
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have to give it a little bit of thought,

1080
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: but he's really high on the list. That's a good one.

1081
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: Is there? Who's else's out there?

1082
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: Some people say Creed Humphrey, but create Humphrey snaps in

1083
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Nobody talked about it.

1084
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're every.

1085
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Bit as bad as Mason Coles.

1086
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: They were really bad. They were really bad. I'm trying

1087
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: to think there's a name or two that's pretty darn good.

1088
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: Other people say Linderbaum, he's not there yet. No, not yet.

1089
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him a lot. He's going that direction.

1090
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: But I think Ragnow is rag Now is the dude?

1091
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: I think the answer is yes. But it's Kelsey. A

1092
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: first ballot, no no brainer, hall of Famer to you.

1093
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: I think so he probably would end up being it. Yeah,

1094
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: and he's also a big person for centers. Say centers

1095
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: have a tough go of it, but everyone knows who

1096
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: he is, and he's got rings and ended strong.

1097
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1098
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's great.

1099
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get tough. Another break that's going to do.

1100
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: It for our number one, Kelsey, like all their foundation

1101
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: dudes might not be back next year.

1102
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could take a step back to Yeah. Yeah,

1103
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: let's get to a break that's going to do it

1104
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: for our number one. Of the drive here on Steelers

1105
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: Nation Radio, we'll be back with our number two right

1106
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: after this.