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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive Steelers Nation. It is hour

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Speaker 2: number two here of our special ongoing coverage. We are

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Speaker 2: at the Beltmore in Arizona for the annual league meetings

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Speaker 2: out here on the West coast. And yes, if you are,

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Speaker 2: if you're from the northeast, you should be jealous. I'm amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's prett nice, it's.

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Speaker 2: Sunny, it's beautiful, and you know what I'm starting to

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Speaker 2: I would always hear right, Matt. I've spent brief time

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Speaker 2: in Arizona in the past, but this is kind of

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Speaker 2: my first, like spending a real elongated.

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Speaker 3: Futures a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and man, that whole like dry heat thing that

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Speaker 2: people say I think is kind of real.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 2: Walking around this morning and it was like eighty degrees

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Speaker 2: out and it did not feel eighty degrees. It felt

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Speaker 2: really nice, comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Like so when we come down from our elevators in

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Speaker 3: our hotel, I didn't look on the app or what everything,

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Speaker 3: but there's a TV right there at the elevators. You

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Speaker 3: might have noticed it, and it's like the today's events.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Has the weather and I looked in

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Speaker 3: the weather as the high of ninety seven today, I'm like, this,

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Speaker 3: dude's gonna melt. Man.

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Speaker 4: It's not like that at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's just totally different. I mean, yeah, it's warm,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of sun. It's nice out, but it's

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Speaker 3: not like this is unbearable, or like when you get

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Speaker 3: a you know, a screen of just heat and humidity.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Arizona, You're you're rapidly rising up my

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Speaker 2: state power rankings. Yeah's here so strong so far during

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Speaker 2: our time that we've been here so far. We will

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Speaker 2: be here. We leave Wednesday. So we've got shows for

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Speaker 2: you for three days here Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Give me nine hours from at.

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Speaker 2: Bonus hour every single day starting with this special Sunday show.

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Speaker 2: Matt Bucky Brooks on the NFL Network put out a

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Speaker 2: list of ten draft wild cards, the ten prospects who

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Speaker 2: could really shake up everybody's big board and the order

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Speaker 2: and kind of just what we think of the draft

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Speaker 2: so far to this point.

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Speaker 3: Some of these issues on there, some of these.

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Speaker 2: Names are big names like, okay, spoiler alert, ty Simpson

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Speaker 2: is on there, you know what I mean? Because does

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Speaker 2: he go early, does he go late, does he go

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Speaker 2: in the first round, does someone trade in to get him?

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Speaker 3: Something's one team to love some of these Some.

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Speaker 2: Of these names are names that we've barely discussed. But

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Speaker 2: the number one on the list, and I think it

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Speaker 2: makes sense is ty Simpson. He feels like the biggest

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Speaker 2: wild card. I think if he went in the in

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Speaker 2: the you know, thirteen to seventeen range, it wouldn't shock us.

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Speaker 2: If in the back half of the first round, but

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Speaker 2: maybe if he falls. Do you see any scenario where

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Speaker 2: he falls the day two?

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Speaker 3: Slight but doubtful. I mean, this history shows rarely is

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Speaker 3: there one quarterback taken in the first round. I mean

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Speaker 3: I think Kenny Pickett was one of the only ones. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So a couple of things I think work in his

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Speaker 3: favor is this draft is not loaded with premium position players,

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Speaker 3: of these teams, the Jets certainly come to mind that

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Speaker 3: you know, are going to value tackles and edge rushers

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Speaker 3: him earlier than their grades indicate. And frankly, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot to like about his tape too. There might be

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Speaker 3: many teams out there that do have a first round

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Speaker 3: grade on him. I don't mean to dismiss that at all,

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Speaker 3: but I think when the Jets pick their second first

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals that could really be in that market.

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Speaker 2: Jets too, because you start the season with Gino and

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Speaker 2: if Ty Simpson you can, you can give them time

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Speaker 3: Ready, and I think he needs time. I mean history

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Speaker 3: shows these guys that don't have that many starts, which

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Speaker 3: he doesn't, really could use some time to sit and

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Speaker 3: marinate a little bit and learn. But if you like

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Speaker 3: him enough, see I look at him much like Jackson

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Speaker 3: that discussion, I'm gonna make sure the Cardinals don't do it,

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Speaker 3: the Browns don't do it, whoever else I'm not thinking about.

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Speaker 3: And the Browns have a lot of picks. Cardinals have

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Speaker 3: a lot of resources. You know, you have the most.

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Speaker 3: Just take him at seventeen to be done with it,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's not terrible logistics.

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Speaker 3: And if he doesn't work out the process, I mean sorry,

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Speaker 3: you could trade him the next year to the Steelers

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Speaker 3: or the Dolphins or whoever. If you're you know, if

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Speaker 3: you're picking first in the draft next year with three

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Speaker 3: or whoever, it's not that hard to get out of right,

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Speaker 3: taking both the camp whatever, you know, Right, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's starting to make sense. Yeah, it feels yeah. I

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Speaker 2: would lean towards he goes in the top twenty more

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Speaker 2: so than he falls to Day two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number two on this list running back Mike Washington Junior

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Speaker 2: out of Arkansas for three three forty yard dash. He's

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Speaker 2: six one, two hundred and twenty five pounds, fast, physical,

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Speaker 2: and one of the few guys in this class with

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Speaker 2: the potential to be RB one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's any potentially RB one.

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Speaker 2: Not in Sorry starting I starting running back in one

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Speaker 3: Soon as I said that, I'm like, I know he means, because.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously Jeremiah Love is RB one in this class.

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Speaker 2: But to be a starting running back in the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he has a case for that. I

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Speaker 3: mean again, big and fast, plays at that position really well,

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Speaker 3: and he does have those things. He could be running

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Speaker 3: last pick in the second round of Seattle. Who really

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just not that many needs. None of

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Speaker 2: It might be a good place to be if you're Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Then yeah, right, you get your pick of all.

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Speaker 2: Take the end of the second round and we can

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Speaker 3: And then maybe the third round a couple guys that

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Speaker 2: Or that one was one of the interesting ones on

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Speaker 2: first time we've discussed him to this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've barely even just a discussion of when does

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Speaker 2: Just gonna say, perhaps maybe it will be the biggest

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Speaker 3: Four or something, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number three on this list is Chris Brazzle, the second

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Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Tennessee that we've discussed. Six four

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Speaker 2: two hundred six four two hundred pounds four point three

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Speaker 2: this past year at Tennessee. Matt He's He's the one

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Speaker 2: potential to jump up into the first round, or maybe

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Speaker 2: he doesn't even need to jump up into the first round.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's just where he belongs.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the most George Pickens like receiver in

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Speaker 3: this draft. Most of that I mean is an extreme

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Speaker 3: know those things, but he's fluid and capable of much more.

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Speaker 3: He's not just a sprinter out there that runs fast

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Speaker 3: has used him in there Mickey Mouse Looney Tunes offense

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Speaker 3: that we talk about. So you haven't seen the diverse

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Speaker 3: Pickens too, Like remember his rookie year here he led

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Speaker 3: did not have him run a very diverse route tree.

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Speaker 3: He barely played his last year at Georgia, so he

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Speaker 3: was a raw route runner. Tennessee's offense half the time

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Speaker 3: you've probably watched them, like half the time, half the

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Speaker 3: call it. They don't hide it, you know. So he

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Speaker 3: basically runs goes, comebacks, slants, posts, not slants. So he

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Speaker 3: can snap off routes. He's almost like a Pickings like talent,

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Speaker 3: But there's also I don't want say there's off the

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Speaker 3: You know, so, could he go to the first round

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Speaker 3: to the Bills or somebody like that, Yes, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Those are the type of guys. The Bills have been

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Speaker 2: taking a lot of chances on.

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Speaker 3: It, yeah, or the Chiefs with their second pick or

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Speaker 3: something like that, some established, you know, good quarterback, playoff

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Speaker 3: you're to do, and we'll bring along slow and frankly,

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Speaker 3: there's a couple receivers him being maybe the top of

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Speaker 3: the list that if I told you three years from

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Speaker 3: now was the best receiver in this class, he could

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Speaker 3: get there. Yeah, I mean he could get there.

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Speaker 2: I could certainly see it. It is funny like some

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Speaker 2: of the same things that you see about him. Inconsistent effort, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not the strongest guy. Limited route running experience, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of a lot of those things feel

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Speaker 2: like things that you can work on, that you can

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Speaker 2: coach up. Yeah, you can't coach up six foot four

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Speaker 3: Speed and bend. I mean that's the thing is he's

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Speaker 3: not just a linear, you know, straight line athlete.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Number what are we on four here on this

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Speaker 2: list is tight end? Eli Stower's out of Vanderbilt six

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Speaker 2: four two forty had a record breaking forty five and

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Speaker 2: a half inch vertical leap for tight ends at the combine. Uh,

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Speaker 2: he could play on the perimeter. He's got length, he's

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Speaker 2: got ability, he's got exceptional ball skills. Matt, he is

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Speaker 2: firmly in the conversation for me for for tight end

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Speaker 2: two in this class, and a just a very intriguing

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Speaker 2: we know if you could find one of those guys,

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Speaker 2: that is the matchup nightmare there at that position. It's

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Speaker 2: a real strength for an offense. And he feels like

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Speaker 3: But he's a unique physical specimen.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right. So those are the five wild cards for

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Speaker 2: Back inside the Biltmore here in Arizona for our ongoing

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Speaker 2: League Owners Meeting coverage. That sounds fun to say. How

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Speaker 2: about that, Matt, Well, you know we typically do ongoing

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Speaker 3: Cool one though.

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Speaker 2: you're looking for. Pretty good tape too, an intriguing one

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Speaker 2: that definitely if he if he works his way into

437
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Speaker 2: the back end of the first round, I don't think

438
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: would be much of a surprise. No, it shouldn't be

439
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Speaker 2: number three on this list. A name we've discussed a

440
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Speaker 2: little bit. Matt He continues to be a popular talking

441
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Speaker 2: point as we get closer and closer to draft day.

442
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 2: Harold Perkins Junior, the linebacker out of LSU, potentially one

443
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Speaker 2: of the biggest boom or bust prospects in this class.

444
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Speaker 3: I love that he's on this list because he's not

445
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Speaker 3: a first second round pick, you know, like the whole

446
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Speaker 3: draft isn't going to change when he comes off the board.

447
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: It's gonna be in the fourth round or the third round.

448
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 3: But what's crazy is he's way too early mock drafts.

449
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: I think it's been two years in a row that

450
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: he's been like on those lists as this like undersized

451
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 3: demon edge pass rusher, but he's way too small for that.

452
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: He's two hundred and twenty pounds or two hundred and

453
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: ten pounds, ran four to four to twenty. I think

454
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: he bulked up to two twenty six.

455
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 2: He's under six to one.

456
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: So he's playing like off the ball linebacker now and

457
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: people and people are really good defensive end by trade

458
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: playing off the ball linebacker now. But people are projecting

459
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Speaker 3: him which is probably way too much of a projection

460
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: to be the m and worry type guy. Gotcha, Like yeah,

461
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 3: but he's at the end. I mean, this isn't.

462
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Speaker 2: That's a big, big Kyle Lewis No, right.

463
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 3: Right exactly. That's that's a two positions away jump, you

464
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Speaker 3: know type of deal. But he's gonna be awesome on

465
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Speaker 3: special teams. He plays super hard. He's made a ton

466
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Speaker 3: of plays at a big school. He's been in the

467
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Speaker 3: spotlight forever. He tested great, real production too. Yeah.

468
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Speaker 2: Right, four sacks, three interceptions of forced fumble last year.

469
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean he gets to the quarterback. He's really disruptive.

470
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Speaker 3: Or is he just a really good college player? That's

471
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Speaker 3: what you might be, a really good.

472
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Speaker 2: College Yeah, maybe one of those kind of verbial jack

473
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: of all trades, but master of none.

474
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Speaker 3: I think the Steelers had him in for thirty visits.

475
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: They did plan it on it, they did.

476
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, according to the reports, Yeah, that has been yeah reported.

477
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: Two more here on the defensive side of the football,

478
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Speaker 2: both in the secondary. The first Chris Johnson, the corner

479
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: out of San Diego State, talented technician, could be a

480
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: plug and play starter on the perimeter for four forty

481
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, six foot and a half about one to

482
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Speaker 2: ninety five and kind of where does he slot into

483
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: that power ranking of corners which is getting more and

484
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Speaker 2: more interest not from a Steelers perspective, but just in general.

485
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Speaker 3: Although I think he was reportedly in for a visit,

486
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Speaker 3: he was.

487
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Speaker 2: That's a great point. But Chris Johnson, Man, Sword, Delayne Jermad, McCoy,

488
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: Colton Hood, like, there's a lot of interesting names at

489
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Speaker 2: Corner without I think they're being the clear cut, bonafide

490
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Speaker 2: number one guy.

491
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Speaker 3: I think you mentioned this last week. McCoy's pro day

492
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: or private workout is still too out there, Okay, I

493
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Speaker 3: think it's coming soon, yep. And that's kind of the end.

494
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Speaker 2: Of which I believe Tuesday is the last day you

495
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Speaker 2: can have it.

496
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, But I do think maybe ten.

497
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Speaker 2: Twenty that on purpose for him to give him as

498
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Speaker 2: much time as possible.

499
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Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure as agent did it. Yeah, Corner

500
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: pecking order is far from set though still, and McCoy's

501
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: a wild card. But I think, I mean, I don't

502
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: think that Johnson's in competition to be first Corner off

503
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Speaker 3: the board. But can he go ahead of Cisea or

504
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: Hood or somebody like that? Yeah, I mean, and I

505
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: do think he's.

506
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Speaker 2: Can he be the second or third instead of the

507
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Speaker 2: fourth or fifth?

508
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Speaker 3: And does he sneak into the first round. I mean,

509
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: what's weird this year too? Is I mean picks twenty

510
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: to forty are almost all equal in terms of value,

511
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Speaker 3: just in terms of what you're picking from. So could

512
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Speaker 3: he end up being a twenty fifth pick or is

513
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Speaker 3: he a name we're talking about? Is best available on

514
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Speaker 3: day to day two? Yeah?

515
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Speaker 2: And then last on this list a name that we

516
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Speaker 2: just mentioned, a local angle. Kyle lewis listed as a

517
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: safety here. You know, played linebacker during his time at Pitt,

518
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: but is a little undersized to train position there in

519
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: the NFL five eleven and seven eighths, so a little

520
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: under six foot, two hundred and twenty pounds. Can he

521
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: be that dynamic you know, hybrid safety sub personnel slot

522
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: nickel that a lot of these defensive coordinators are looking

523
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Speaker 2: for in the modern game.

524
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we brought him up a lot because there's a

525
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: local feel and he's really fun to watch, and Senior

526
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: Bowl practices are great for him because there's no taking

527
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: on contact. Then he can fly around the field and

528
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: it's just a projection. And again it scares me this

529
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: year and this is analyst driven, not league driven, but

530
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 3: doesn't mean the league won't follow that. Everyone wants the Muire,

531
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Speaker 3: you know, like I'm gonna take this guy and we're

532
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Speaker 3: gonna win the super Bowl. And sure, you know, everyone

533
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: wants the big Nickel Derwin Hamilton, go on and on on,

534
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: and they're really really important. Now that doesn't mean everybody

535
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: can do it though, you know, just because you drafted

536
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: one last year at the beginning of the second round

537
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: does not mean all these guys are carbon copy. Oh

538
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: he did it, I can do it, you know, but

539
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: he has that profile.

540
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: He does and he's another one. It's it feels like

541
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: there's a lot of boom or bust potential there that

542
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: it could work out really well, or it could be

543
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: the jack of all trades you know, doesn't really fit in,

544
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: you know, too much of a tweener to have a

545
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Speaker 2: long term NFL career.

546
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Speaker 3: I forget which one I was listening to, which forget

547
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: which podcast I was listening to, But I love this term.

548
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: It's like you're either a jack of all trades or

549
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: you're homeless, you know what I mean. It used to

550
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: be like tween or was a bad word, like you

551
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 3: a good thing. Now now it's like, Okay, you can

552
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: do two or three things and actually do them all,

553
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: or you might just be homeless and not have any

554
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Speaker 3: anywhere to lay your head.

555
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: It's all in the eye of the beholder, right, and.

556
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: You got to figure out. I when you draft these guys,

557
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: you get and say, he's going to this meeting room

558
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: from day one, and we're going to teach him this

559
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: thing first, and then we're teaching them this. You have

560
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: to have a real blueprint for these guys.

561
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: Yes, almost kind of like this is a more extreme example,

562
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: but kind of the same conversation we had with the

563
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter type guy.

564
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, for sure, Like if you draft him,

565
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Speaker 3: especially if you trade up for him, and as expensive

566
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Speaker 3: as he was to be, if he don't trade up.

567
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: You better not go, oh, maybe he's a wide receiver.

568
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: When he gets here, well, right, right, right now, you

569
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: better have a plan.

570
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: You better have a concrete blueprint for how you're gonna

571
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: get that guy ready for where you need him. Matt

572
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: one more if I could throw it, if not on

573
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: this list. So that's the list of Bucky Brooks's tent

574
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: one more though. Jacob Rodriguez, a linebacker out of Texas. Yeah, yeah,

575
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: he starts. He feels like one of those guys that

576
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: has a real wide range of where could he get

577
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Speaker 2: in at the end of the first round. Is he

578
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Speaker 2: in early day two guys? He a mid day two

579
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: guy that just feels like he's a real kind of

580
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: true wild card in that sense of where he lands.

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, could he get

582
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: in there late day one maybe?

583
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: Shock?

584
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he bankes a ton of plays tested well. I

585
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 3: also think the linebacker pecking order after Styles was kind

586
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: of interesting too. Yeah, Alan from Georgia, the dude from Texas,

587
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: Hill from Texas. Yep. Yeah, there's a handful of them.

588
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: All are talented. They could make the real strong argument

589
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: the second linebacker off the.

590
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Speaker 2: Board certainly something that we'll be looking for here when

591
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Speaker 2: we get to the draft. Now, just a few weeks away,

592
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: back across the coast in our home of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

593
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Speaker 2: let's take our final break of our number two. Here,

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Speaker 2: we will close down our number two. Our buddy Chris Hallick,

595
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Speaker 2: a regular on the program throughout the year. He's here

596
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Speaker 2: around the corner in the media workroom. He's gonna sit

597
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: down with us to talk about all these things that

598
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Speaker 2: we've discussed and more. As we roll along here, West Schuler,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson live inside the Biltmore in Arizona. It's all

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Speaker 2: part of our ongoing coverage for the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: NFL League meetings here on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 5: and while you might not know who your team is

605
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Speaker 5: drafting this year, you do know your watch parties. Number

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Speaker 5: One pick bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back inside the Beltmore in Phoenix, Arizona. Closing down our

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Speaker 2: second hour of coverage here on I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if it's right to call it Radio Row. It's more

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Speaker 2: It's just us, the Texans and the Jets doing live radio.

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Speaker 2: But joining us now is a name and a voice

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Speaker 2: that you're all familiar with if you are regular listeners

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Speaker 2: to SNR and to the Drive. It's our buddy, Chris

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Speaker 2: Halleck of dk Pittsburgh Sports. Chris, what's up man? Thanks

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Speaker 2: for taking the time, And gotta imagine you're enjoying this

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Speaker 2: sunshine a little bit, just like we are.

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Speaker 6: To the point where I've tried to not but like

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Speaker 6: bothered my wife a little bit, who does not like

627
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Speaker 6: the cold weather, likes the hot weather. Born and raised

628
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 6: in Texas and everything, and so she sees she's like,

629
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Speaker 6: what's the weather gonna be?

630
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: Like, what do you think the weather's gonna be?

631
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Speaker 6: She's just then I got some really angry texts and everything.

632
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: I would say, you two are a little younger than me.

633
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: You your hasn't been married is long? You haven't been

634
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: fathers as long? And whatnot? Really longer than I thought.

635
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: But I've learned quickly, like don't take pictures of the

636
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: dinner that the Steelers bought you that's like surf and turf,

637
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: or send it home when they're eating like stakeems, or

638
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: don't send you weather here couldn't be better, blah blah, blah, like,

639
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: nobody's happy for you back home.

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00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: So you're saying the picture of the sunshine and the

641
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: palm tree that I sent my wife this morning that

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Speaker 2: one might get me the doghouse and we get back

643
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Speaker 2: on Wednesday.

644
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: Bizarre. She's not like, Oh, I'm so happy, Wes is

645
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: having a great time right I'm here with the two kids.

646
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Speaker 2: Chris, let's get into it, man, play that we want

647
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: to discuss with you. A lot of different rule proposals,

648
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: by law proposals. That's kind of the meat and potatoes

649
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Speaker 2: of what's going on here the next few days. What

650
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Speaker 2: stands out to you? What do you think is the

651
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Speaker 2: most intriguing thing on the document?

652
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Speaker 6: It sounds kind of boring to me, but it's maybe

653
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 6: it's just because I like pract like the practicality of it.

654
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 6: Right now, the way things are when when somebody gets

655
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 6: placed on IR before the season, they have to miss

656
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: four games and you're not allowed to return them to

657
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 6: practice until after those four games are gone. There's a

658
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 6: proposal on the table to allow that player to have

659
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 6: their twenty one day window opened uh after I think

660
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 6: the first game.

661
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: So that they could then.

662
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 6: Practice while still going through those four games. That they

663
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 6: have to miss, and that way, if they are going

664
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 6: to miss those four games, they've already been practicing and

665
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 6: then they can make that decision. Hey, okay, they're at

666
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 6: the end of the twenty one day window. We're gonna

667
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 6: go ahead and n activat them and then they can

668
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 6: play in the next game. So it's not like four games.

669
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: How does it sit now.

670
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 6: Because right now it's four games. No matter what. You

671
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 6: can't go back to practice or anything. You're you're out

672
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: for four games. Obviously, when guys then first get back

673
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 6: on the practice field, they're not just immediately gonna they're

674
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 6: recovering from an injury, so there there's a ramp up

675
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 6: that has to happen, which is why there's a twenty

676
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: one day window. So like in theory, they're out for

677
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 6: a minimum of four games, but they really might miss

678
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 6: six or seven.

679
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: So this way, especially if it's.

680
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 6: An injury where you're like, hey, we know we're not

681
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 6: gonna have him for the first four games, but there's

682
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 6: a really good chance that we can have him back

683
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: for game for for week five or our fifth game,

684
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 6: and then he can do three whole weeks of practicing.

685
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 6: In that process, right now of being out for those

686
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 6: four games. That's not the way it is right now.

687
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so that to me propose, it seems like that's

688
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: an obvious Yes, that's.

689
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: What I would think.

690
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, the practicality of it makes so much sense, don Like,

691
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 6: So that's why, Like, it's not one of the one

692
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 6: of the like Grabbier rule or biolof aprosals or anything

693
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 6: like that. But it's the one that intrigued me because

694
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, why isn't it like this already?

695
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: Answ why do you take this long?

696
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

697
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's the outside that one's That one kind of

698
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 6: stood out to me. There was a few other ones,

699
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 6: but that one kind of stood out to me.

700
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: Okay, are you in favor or not of being able

701
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: to trade draft picks five years.

702
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: I'm not really a fan of it. We don't like

703
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: it at all's not a fan of it.

704
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: We don't.

705
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: It would be I worry that it would get too

706
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: NBA ish where you would get halfway through the season, Yeah,

707
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: and a third forty percent of your league would already

708
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: clearly be be punting on the.

709
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: Future and just watching the lesser product from all. Yeah.

710
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't, I don't, I know, I don't. Like,

711
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 6: I think three years out is pretty I think that's

712
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 6: about as far as it should go. So no, I'm

713
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: not I'm not a fan of that at all. I'm

714
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 6: trying to think, like I'm my mind's blanking on some

715
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 6: of the other ones. But yeah, that was a That

716
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: was another one that's kind of fun the Steelers proposal

717
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 6: of you know, making what the thing last year permanent.

718
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Explain the behind the scenes and kind of the logistics.

719
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Of that too, What do you know about that?

720
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 6: So the negotiating window is is funny because it's like

721
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 6: it opens and like teams can then talk with uh

722
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 6: players agents. But this way you get more at access

723
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 6: to the player. And that's kind of what I thought, Yeah,

724
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 6: you can get more access. Yeah, and so like and

725
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 6: then that again, this is what they did last year,

726
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 6: or it's what they've done like this year because of

727
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 6: what was what was passed last year and so but

728
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 6: it was just on a one year trial basis, and

729
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 6: so now they want to make it permanent again with

730
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 6: the fact that it was voted in and I don't

731
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything about like this went terribly. This

732
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 6: is like, so I would think that's another slam dunk.

733
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

734
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 6: But you know, we'll see whenever the owners get together

735
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 6: and you know, vote on it. But uh, I think

736
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 6: that's another one that's pretty interesting.

737
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't figure out I five was a big number

738
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: or a little number though that the series presented you

739
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: could do with five different players, I think. So, I mean,

740
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: maybe it's a good place to start, and yeah, there

741
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: next year we might be talking about, oh, it's bump day,

742
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: you know whatever.

743
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you can always you can always adjust.

744
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 6: I think that's what like like the whole point of

745
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 6: these like BiLaw proposals and and rule proposals. Sometimes Okay, yeah,

746
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 6: you started off on a trial basis, uh, and then okay,

747
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 6: if the trial goes well, okay, then let's vote to

748
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 6: make it a permanent rule. But then that rule can

749
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 6: continue to be amended. Okay, that's too many players, let's

750
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 6: pull it back. Or hey, we still don't have access

751
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 6: to enough players, so let's let's bump it to seven

752
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 6: or you know whatever it is that the next time.

753
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 6: So I think that's why like these meetings, while like

754
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 6: they don't grab a lot of headlines unless there's something

755
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 6: like the tush push shit being talked about, which is

756
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: not being dynamic kicked right, and there is quite a

757
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 6: bit on the dynamic kickoff this year too. So yeah,

758
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 6: like these meetings are productive for sure, and it definitely

759
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 6: helps shape the future of the game.

760
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: Chris Alec with us here on the drive, Chris, what

761
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: are you hearing about? Matt and I were having some

762
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: conversations starting to get a little worried that we're going

763
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: to have a replacement referee situation and some of the

764
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: chaos that ensued in twenty twelve a repeat of that here?

765
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: What are you hearing on that front? Do you share

766
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: our concerns?

767
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 6: There's definitely concern whenever the two sides aren't talking. There's

768
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 6: always concern about that for those like those were baseball fans,

769
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 6: you know, you know, out you start, you know, it's

770
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 6: it's almost an inevitability at this point because the two

771
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 6: sides aren't talking, there's like and just and then you

772
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 6: go to this with between the league and the referees,

773
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 6: and if they're not talking, that's never a good sign.

774
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 6: But what else are you gonna do? Like, you know,

775
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 6: this is part of what negotiating is, and sometimes you know,

776
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 6: you know, certain size will do certain things to get

777
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 6: what they want out of it, and right now it's

778
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 6: gonna be who's gonna blink first. The good thing from

779
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 6: the referees perspective is they saw, like everybody saw, how poor.

780
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: They went last time.

781
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: The referees didn't forget that, and fans haven't forgotten that.

782
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: It's been almost fifteen years, but I think we all

783
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: remember it vividly.

784
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 6: And and there's gonna be you know, potentially if he resigns,

785
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 6: there's gonna be one member of the Steelers. If Aaron

786
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 6: Rodgers does come back, who will remember that?

787
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: You think that?

788
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so yeah he will.

789
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 6: Uh, that will be something fun to talk about if

790
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 6: it gets to that. Hopefully it doesn't. But when the

791
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: two sides aren't talking, that's it's never fun.

792
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: So speaking to Rogers. So kind of a two part

793
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: question here. Yeah, if he decides he doesn't want to

794
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: play football or doesn' want to play for the Steelers again,

795
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: do you think they pivot to a Cousins or a

796
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: car type move.

797
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: Not as a starter, not as not as an unquestioned

798
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 6: the day you signed the contract, you're automatically QB one.

799
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that you think, Okay, well, what do

800
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: you think would happen. You do you think they would

801
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: even go down either one of those type of roads.

802
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 6: What I would think is they would try to bring

803
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: in a veteran to go along with.

804
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: What they have.

805
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 6: Mean like that, yes, okay, that's had start a game,

806
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 6: and then it would be something along the lines of, okay,

807
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 6: you have that veteran signing, you have Mason Ruffia, Will Howard,

808
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: and potentially you also have another quarterback that's drafted.

809
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: That's my two part question too, is do you think

810
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 3: they draft a mid round guy?

811
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: Yes, I would lean toward them taking a quarterback in

812
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: this class, Rogers or not. That's what That's what I

813
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 6: That's what I am leaning toward right now, based.

814
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: Not on what I've heard of, just what I would do.

815
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 6: But if Rogers is not part of the equation, I

816
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 6: think he will be. But if he's not, I think

817
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 6: what you'll have by the time training camp opens in

818
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 6: La Trobe, you'll have a legitimate quarterback.

819
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: Competition going on.

820
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: That's what I think you'll you'll see. I don't think anybody.

821
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: Is gonna be quarterback competition could be.

822
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 6: Four really yeah, because you'll bring in four quarterbacks. Now,

823
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: I would think that whoever would be drafted, whether it

824
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 6: be Ty Simpson. Maybe, if it's Ty Simpson, you draft

825
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: him the first round.

826
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 4: He'd get a good look.

827
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 6: But if it's more of a mid round guy, if

828
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: it's a Garret nuts Meyer, Drew Raller than like that,

829
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 6: like Cole Payton like that, that type of guy. No,

830
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to be front and center

831
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 6: to be the starter right away, but he you give

832
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 6: him a look, you give him a chance, you know.

833
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 6: I think Will Howard would get a chance, Mason Rudolph

834
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 6: having the experience he has. And then obviously if you

835
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 6: bring in somebody else, like a Kirk Cousins or something like,

836
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 6: they'll they'll come in and they'll have a chance to

837
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: compete and they'll probably have the leg up.

838
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 4: But I don't think anything is guaranteed at that point.

839
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: So along those lines, Rogers, car Cousins, whoever. Let's say

840
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: there's an old guy and there's a new guy, a

841
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: third round pick, you know, not Smire or you know,

842
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: I like Cole Payton, whatever, how are you gonna make theme? Yep,

843
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 3: that seems to me Rudolph would be the guy that's

844
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: on the outside looking in. I would think, so, yeah,

845
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: And maybe you'd flip him for a seventh round pick

846
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: or something. Maybe. Yeah.

847
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 6: I mean, cause you're not keeping four quarterbacks at the

848
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns, so you're you're you're keeping you're keeping three quarterbacks.

849
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 6: And if it has to be, I think, and really,

850
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: when you're talking about the future of the quarterback position

851
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 6: with this franchise, you don't have that guy to go

852
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 6: get in the first round this year. Like you have

853
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 6: all this draft capital, you'd love to be able to

854
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 6: go trade up and go get a guy. Well that

855
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: guy doesn't exist, sure, so well you have to do

856
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: is for this year. You still have to try to

857
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 6: find something for the future. That means dedicating resources to

858
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 6: developing Will Howard. That means possibly also drafting a quarterback

859
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 6: and not just drafting him in the third or fourth round,

860
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 6: whatever it is, and then just cutting him unless and less,

861
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 6: unless he just goes to training camp and it just

862
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 6: bombs h yes, like absolutely terribly, be like gosh, this

863
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 6: is already.

864
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: I don't think that would happen.

865
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: That's not the plan when you pick him in the

866
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: third it's not.

867
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: So you could realistically, and and from from a Will

868
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 6: Howard perspective, it almost makes sense. For him to go

869
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Speaker 6: from Okay, he was he had his red shirt year

870
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Speaker 6: as as a rookie, you know, I mean he was

871
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Speaker 6: active one game and when Mason Ruff was a start

872
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 6: in Chicago didn't play any snaps obviously. Okay, Well, then

873
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: now this time, if you want to take a step forward, now,

874
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 6: maybe he ends up being the actual backup. Like if

875
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers does come back and.

876
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Speaker 3: He's hoping Howard by cutdown day is a solid two.

877
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Speaker 4: That's what you would hope.

878
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I think best case scenario.

879
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and so then you have Okay, then at

880
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 6: the at that point, your third could be if you

881
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 6: draft a guy, would be that guy who would then be.

882
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Speaker 4: What Will Howard was last year?

883
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Speaker 6: He's you know, if you know everybody's healthy, he's never active.

884
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 6: He's the emergency quarterback. Yeah, maybe he's active for a

885
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 6: game or two as the backup.

886
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Speaker 4: You know, if Rogers he's.

887
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Speaker 3: A col Payton, then you have a Taysom Hill package

888
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Speaker 3: for him or something.

889
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Speaker 6: Something like that. Yeah, but then you'd have to activate him.

890
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 6: You'd have to have three active quarterbacks that day. But yeah,

891
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Speaker 6: I think when you're talking about the future of the

892
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 6: quarterbacks position, you have to start dedicating resources to developing

893
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Speaker 6: and I think the fact that Mike McCarthy's now the

894
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 6: head coach, you're in a better position to do.

895
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Speaker 4: That than you were in the past.

896
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Speaker 2: Okay, a few more minutes here with Chris Hallick on

897
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Speaker 2: the drive. Chris, we were kind of in the first

898
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: hour kicking around things that, you know, other than rules,

899
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: proposals and specific you know, by laws, things like that

900
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Speaker 2: that could be discussed by Mike McCarthy by oh or

901
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: con Do you expect any type of clarity on Roderick

902
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: Jones potentially this week? Are we gonna just have to

903
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: wait and see in the summertime on his health and status.

904
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Speaker 6: I don't think we're gonna get anything solid on that

905
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 6: this week. Oh, he'll he'll be I mean, MacArthur will

906
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 6: be asked about it. Omar will be asked about it,

907
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 6: because McCarthy will we'll talk with Pittsburgh reporters tomorrow, Omar

908
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 6: I think Tuesday.

909
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: Yes, So.

910
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: Both guys are gonna get questions about Broderick. I don't

911
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 6: think we're gonna get any clarity. And the thing and

912
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 6: the reason why isn't necessarily because they they're trying to

913
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: keep things under wraps or anything like that. This is

914
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 6: just such a it's an unpredictable injury. I mean the

915
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: Sante Samuel Jr. Had his own fusion thing. He's able

916
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 6: to come back and play. But then I remember Ryan

917
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 6: Watts final games of the Detroit you know, the preseason

918
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: when he was drafted, he you know, has that stinger

919
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 6: near the end of the game in that preseason finale Detroit,

920
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 6: he retired like it just it has And and that's

921
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 6: why when when you when you think about this, and

922
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 6: you think about from the Steelers perpective on this, like

923
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 6: they don't want to just discard him like he was

924
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 6: a first round pick.

925
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: Still young, Yeah, he's still young.

926
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Speaker 6: You have a fifth year option decision to make, and

927
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 6: with they have to know, like they have to know

928
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 6: if they're going to pay him that kind of money

929
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 6: for the fifth year option. So if they don't, imagine

930
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Speaker 6: if they don't, yeah, I would lean toward not picking

931
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: it up right now.

932
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: His level of play was a lot higher and this

933
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: injuries out there, then I think it becomes more of

934
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: a debate. I would think so too, but didn't exist.

935
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Speaker 6: But even but even if let's just say Broderick, like

936
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 6: was playing at like a really high level, like there

937
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 6: weren't like the bumps and bruises that he's dealt with

938
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 6: and the ups and downs that he's dealt with, that

939
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: kind of an injury that could possibly be a career ender.

940
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 6: You're then like literally handcuffing yourself because that that's a

941
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 6: that's a it's a guarantee money, it's a full cap hit.

942
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 6: It's what twenty million something like around that.

943
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 4: It's it's it's that's a that's.

944
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: A big chunky. So I think the answer is no,

945
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 3: I don't think.

946
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: I don't think they do.

947
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Speaker 6: And I first is the deadline by the way, Yeah, yeah,

948
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 6: so it's there's a little bit of time. But I

949
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 6: don't think that they're gonna end up picking that up,

950
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 6: that picking up that option, just because I don't think

951
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 6: they're gonna know.

952
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: I really do. Like again, I.

953
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Speaker 6: Don't think this is a situation where they know what's

954
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 6: going on with him. They're keeping up, they are still

955
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 6: trying to figure this out, and then he's still recovering,

956
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 6: he's still going through and they're probably talking with him

957
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 6: and going through this entire process with him.

958
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: And they just don't know.

959
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I gotta wait and see.

960
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's.

961
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Speaker 6: A really unfortunate situation to be in for all all

962
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 6: all parties involved.

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Speaker 3: So therefore and other reasons, I look at left side

964
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: of the O line as probably the second biggest need.

965
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if we've even have to rank them,

966
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: And I would not object at all to taking a

967
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: first and third round offensive lineman or a second and

968
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: fourth round offensive lineman. I don't think taking two is crazy,

969
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: and I don't think a first round offensive lineman is crazy.

970
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see it happening.

971
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Speaker 6: I think the way the first round goes, I don't

972
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 6: think Vega from Penn State will be there at twenty one.

973
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Speaker 6: If he's still there somehow at like sixteen or seventeen,

974
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Speaker 6: I would think long and hard about trying to trade

975
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Speaker 6: up to get him. He's that type of a player,

976
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 6: like I'm not gonna put this kind of like expectation on.

977
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Speaker 4: Him or anything like that.

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Speaker 6: But the first person I think of when it comes

979
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Speaker 6: to Vega is David DeCastro in terms of what he

980
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 6: could provide.

981
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Speaker 4: Possibly he could.

982
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Speaker 6: Be a stable force in the on the interior of

983
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Speaker 6: the line for a decade, Like that's what you would

984
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Speaker 6: draft him to be. He's talented enough to do it,

985
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Speaker 6: he's athletic enough to do it. He's a very very

986
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 6: good player. I would think about that long and hard.

987
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Speaker 6: But I also think that they really need to address

988
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 6: wide receiver as well. Sure, so no, I could see

989
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 6: that happening. But I also do know this, if they don't,

990
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 6: they really really like Spencer Anderson and they really like Dylan,

991
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 6: it would not surprise.

992
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: Me at all. I don't think it's a throwaway at all.

993
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think you'll really legitimate competition between

994
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: Hoffin and Anderson for left guard if they don't draft

995
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 6: like a guard higher up in the draft. I think

996
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 6: you see a legitimate competition in training camp between those

997
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 6: two guys. But they really do like Spencer Anderson a lot. Man,

998
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 6: my graduations of Spencer brother.

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Speaker 2: He just got married, So yeah, that's awesome. H Chris

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Speaker 2: Alec DK Pittsburgh Sports Great Stuff is always one of

1001
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: our regulars here on the Drive, albeit this time about

1002
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: three thousand miles away from home. Dude, twenty five hundred

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Speaker 2: miles away with three thousand sounds better. We'll stick with that, Chris,

1004
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time, man, enjoy yourself this week.

1005
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, guys, two hours in the books.

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