1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a deadline. I'm 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. Trade 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: Deadline is over. I'm with Jordan Rodrieg and I'm with 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. Heyo, we got to see you next Tuesday. 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Crew back for the first time in a minute on 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: one of the biggest Tuesdays on the NFL Challenge Tuesday. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: It is and on you know America's calendar, because it 8 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: is election day as well. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: Get out to the Tuesday all around at Steve. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Mariucci's birthday, Happy Birthday, the mooch. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Look, I already voted. I pre voted, and I put 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: it in the envelope and then I went for a 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: short run and put it into the closest voter box 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: because I love a functional run. Let's talk trades. This 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: is right after the you know how, like very often 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: on these types of shows, do you need that my 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: note card? 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: One? 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: Flying Jordan does a like it. They're in the middle 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: of the table. 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you know, we really build kind of 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: bothering me. We really build up the trade deadline to 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: be such a big deal and then it doesn't end 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: up being that big of a deal false, And you 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: know what happened to be this year a big deal. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: This is the opposite of how I treat my writing 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: deadlines like they don't really exist. This was actually exists. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: It was a huge deal. I do love deadlines. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: I only work with a deadline. There's I can't work 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: unless I have a deadline. 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Apparently the New York Jets, who I do feel like, 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: has been have been a subject on a lot of Tuesdays. 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: We were here for the Robert Sala firing, we were 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: here for some other assorted last year events, and now 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about a complete restructuring of who we thought 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: the Jets were, but more important, who we thought the 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts were. Let's start with the sauce Gardner trade, 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: because that was the most rising, that was the biggest. 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: We'll get to Quinn Williams and everything else that happened today, 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: but Sauce Gardner is an Indianapolis Colt. Love it. The 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: Jets receive twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven first 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: round picks from the Colts and ad Mitchell, which feels 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: just like a little throwing But I actually think that's 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: a nice little part of the deal. For the Jets. 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: We'll get to the Jets side of things, but I 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: do think it's for the twenty twenty five season more 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: interesting that your Colts are going all in in a 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: way that probably surprises the outside universe, but I think 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: actually makes a lot of sense when you think about 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: how their team is structured. As a not so secret 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Colts believer, Colleen, how did this trade make you feel? 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: I've well, first of all, I love that you're calling 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: them my Colts, because this was the one year that 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I'm not going to do it, 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: not to do this, but I do you know think Mae. 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Connie Bowl is on the table here? Eagles? 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: Oh my god, can you imagine? Okay, First of all, 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: this is such. 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: A departure from how Chris Ballard the Colts GM usually operates. 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: He's pretty conservative, he loves the draft and develops strategy. 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: So the fact that he traded like this for such 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: a splashy player, and there was so much given away 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: as well in it was just sort of a little 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: bit of a surprise, a lot a bit of a surprise. 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: But it also just goes to show how confident this 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: regime is in the current roster that it's not a 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: blip for them that they are all in, and I 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: love the move for them. 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: It's the epitome of aggression right down to the player himself, 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: and certainly with how Sauce Gardner has been playing and 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: just some of the vibes in New York just continued losing, 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: getting sort of that stink out and really going to 73 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: a place that is on a roll really other than 74 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: a little blip last week. And he's an aggressive player. 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: He allows them to mix their coverages. He wants to 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: play man coverage, he wants to make plays on the 77 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: ball on a rumo in his renaissance. Yeah, Big Glue 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: is having Uh. He's a perfect player for him because 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: he can do a lot of different things and he 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: can be as aggressive as as he wants, especially with 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: a front that's playing well and a pass rush that's 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: playing well. You can really compliment that with a player 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: like sas Gardner. And I want to say too, the 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: aggression that you noted, Colleen, I think is so important 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: because there were some real, I guess like come to 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: Jesus conversations that have happened within that building. It's real 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: understanding where their roster was at and where they had 88 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: sort of carried themselves down the decision making process knowing 89 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: they had a good roster and this a really continuous 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: group between Ed Dodds, Kevin Rogers and John Shaw, all 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: those guys in scouting and pro personnel and player personnel 92 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: they have. They had to really say, really, where is 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: our roster at and plug in the right quarterback and 94 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: make an egoist decision to move on from a perceived 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: mistake at that time and then really understand where they're 96 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: at as a team in of making a real, real 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: contention push. Making a move like this is a real 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: contention push. 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It didn't make sense because Daniel 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: Jones their quarterback. But they were among the biggest win 101 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: now teams in the league. And that's when I was 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: making the mia culpa about being so wrong about this 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Colts team. That is one thing that you could have 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: seen that they have incredible continuity. They have a lot 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: of guys in their primes when you think about Michael 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Pittman and Pierce and their offensive line for the most 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: part and downs and everything, and then they also have 108 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: like some players that aren't going to be around that 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: much longer, like Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner have been 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: around forever, Sire Franklin and Kenny Moore, like they're at 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: the point of their careers where it's like, okay, it's 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: year to year, and most of these guys have been 113 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: in this system on both sides of the ball in 114 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: terms of the offensive system has been there, and then 115 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: the players have been there on the defensive side. And 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: you get lou An Arumo and he was such an 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: important part of it, and you think, okay, cornerback is 118 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: very unpredictable, and the Colts and the Jets would probably 119 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: say sas Gardner over the last year and a half 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: has not been as good as he was the previous 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: two years. But you do get a coordinator in lou 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Anarumo that you feel like can maximize everything that sas 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Gardner does. So I think that's a big part of 124 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: that is like faith in lou in addition to faith 125 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: in sas Gardner, whose contract extension that he just signed 126 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: in July literally hasn't even started. 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: Part ye part you'd like the Jets obviously were not 128 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: planning on trade at him if they gave him this 129 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: contract in the offseason, and it's just such a huge 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 2: fire sale for them, like they are now just in 131 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: full rebuild. To trade him and Quinnin Williams, like these 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: two players together just shows you that they're ready to 133 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: implode the whole operation at this point. 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember Race Hall. I was gonna say, I 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: can't remember a team like doing this quite as aggressively 136 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: in recent memory. Because to go over the picks they 137 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: have now, they have three firsts in twenty twenty seven, 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and they're not like you know, the NBA, sometimes you 139 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: get it first and it's like it's like the Thunders first. 140 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: It's like that's the twenty ninth pick in the draft. 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: They have their own first, the Cowboys first, and the 142 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Colts first, like that could be pretty good in twenty 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven. You don't know what the Colts are going 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: to be, like you we don't know what the Cowboys 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: are going to be like. They also have two first 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: this year, you know, in twenty six in the next draft, 147 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: and two seconds, so they only had two top one 148 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: hundred picks actually before this trade happened, so that was weird. 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: They are a team though, that has done this before. 150 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: They actually had three first round picks in twenty twenty two. 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: That's how they got some of these players. And it 152 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: doesn't didn't necessarily go well, but they are loaded up 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: in terms of picks. So I even though I was 154 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: smarmy kind of thinking like, wow, they could even get 155 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: good players like Quentinn Williams and Sauce Gardner maybe if 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: they're lucky with these picks, I actually don't hate it 157 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: for the Jets. I think it makes sense for both sides, 158 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: especially in this sauce Gardner deal. 159 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: I think this is totally allowed to be a win 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: win trade. Yeah, honestly because for all parties involved, because 161 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: it's great for the Cowboys to get a player of 162 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Quinn Williams caliber. And I know we're going to get 163 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: to that particular move in a minute, but in speaking 164 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: of the Jets specifically, I think it is so refreshing 165 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: when a team actually admits that they have to commit 166 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: to a rebuild before the trade deadline of that same 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: season happens, because the draft. You need to recoup some 168 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: of that AMMO ahead of that Springs draft. If you're 169 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: really going to be aggressive about where you're at and 170 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: be very honest about where you're at as a roster 171 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: and the way that it's constructed. And I think that 172 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: that you have a new set of talent evaluators in 173 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: under Darren Muji and a new regime and a new 174 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: head coach, and so you're going to start installing your 175 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: players with those picks and we'll see if it works 176 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: out for him obviously short term and long term. But 177 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: in terms of understanding what you are first of all, 178 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: which I think the Colts are doing really really well. 179 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: On the other side, understanding which you are not, which 180 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't really think the Jets moved this preseason and 181 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: start of the regular season like they were really realistic 182 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: about who they actually were. They they are trying to 183 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: push it. Well, I think all of us were kind of, 184 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: like I said it myself, I was like, I kind 185 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: of am in on the Jets with what they're doing. Well, 186 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: they just weren't that team. They didn't really have that. 187 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: They didn't ultimately have the answer at quarterback. They certainly 188 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: did not have the answer on the on defense. They 189 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: certainly need to make some moves additionally to what they 190 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: already have on offense, all on every phase. And so 191 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: I think admitting that before the trade deadline, the Bengals, 192 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: for example, are not admitting this before trade deadlines. Other 193 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: teams that are not contenders and need to rebuild in 194 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: a big way or at least fully rebuild one side 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: of the ball, Like I find it refreshing that they've 196 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: done this. 197 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Daniel Jeremiah. We have 198 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: a move the sticks. We not move the sticks? 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: Wow, it are you James Irwin and Pat Miller? 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Pat Miller and Crime. 201 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: I'm not trying their social. 202 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get on that podcast. We have 203 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: a Forties and Free Agents coming out later this week. 204 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: We were talking about this off air and it's just 205 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: like building around defense. It is tough. It's very much 206 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: the Bill Polian method from twenty years ago. But I 207 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: totally agree with that. Offense is more consistent, and I 208 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: think if you're going to invest like most of your 209 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: resources on defense, the path is way thinner. And that's 210 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: where the Jets were at. They were with this Robert 211 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: solid defense. The defense was great under Robert Salad. These 212 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: were two of the best players, and I think it 213 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: had really soured. You heard from Connor Hughes, A s 214 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: and Y. I've heard this separately that like Quinn Williams 215 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: seem like the happiest guy ever, and at one point 216 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: and he was kind of done, can. 217 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: You be I'm so so excited that we get to 218 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: see Quinn and Williams smile again. 219 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: Okay, this is so great. All right, let's let's go 220 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: over that. I still think we should have a few 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: things on the sauce. But let's talk about exactly what 222 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: they got for Quinn Williams. So the Cowboys get Quinn 223 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Williams the Cowboys. It's just outrageous. And they get a 224 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty evan first round pick from the Cowboys, and 225 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: it'll either be the Cowboys first round pick or the 226 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Packers first round pick, whichever is higher, which to me 227 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: is a great little wrinkle. It's a great little NBA 228 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: wrinkle and a nice piece of business by the Jets 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: to cover themselves there. They also get a twenty twenty 230 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: six second round pick, and they also get Mozzy Smith 231 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: thrown in the deal. So, if you really want to 232 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: have your brain broken, here's the Michael Parsons trade. Like 233 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: that's it, big picture here, it is. They essentially traded 234 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: away Micah Parsons and Mazzy Smith for Quinn Williams and 235 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and a move up like twenty spots to 236 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: the back end of the first round of the draft, 237 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: which is not that much in my opinion. I know 238 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot to consider, but we'll consider this one 239 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: like on its own. What do you think about the 240 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys getting Quinn Williams. 241 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: I think that it immediately addresses their run defense, which 242 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: is helpful for them. Obviously he's really good in the 243 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: middle of the field there. 244 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: But I just feel like this trade kind. 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: Of shows that obviously Jerry Jones is maybe regretful of 246 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: moving Michael Parsons, Michael Parsons who potentially wins Defensive Player 247 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: of the Year, and all of their defensive struggles stem 248 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: from that move specifically, So now he's trying to go 249 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: back all in since I mean, even before last night, 250 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: before last night, the narrative of the Cowboys was their 251 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: offense is so good, their defense is not holding up 252 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: this end of the bargain. And then last night, I mean, 253 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: you saw what the Cardinals were able to do. Their 254 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: defense was a disaster the Dallas Cowboys. So I like 255 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: the move, and I'm happy for Quinn Williams, but I 256 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: just feel like Ultimately, the Cowboys should have never traded 257 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: away Michael Parsons in the first place. 258 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: I think it's it's coming to terms with the fact 259 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: that you can't put the lid back on the pot, 260 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: right right, And maybe I said that in a little 261 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: Jerry jonesy way. I can't put the lid back on 262 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: the pot. 263 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: I don't know toothpaste back. 264 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 265 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: If he's more about like glory hole, I was going 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: to say, wow and trying to do something with mosquitos. 267 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: He's always talking about. 268 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: Right, glory hole. 269 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So I feel like this is actually him and 270 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: the team itself understanding like what's done is done. 271 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: You have to plan. 272 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: For the future here. I do like that the Cowboys 273 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: still have their twenty twenty six first round picks. 274 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 4: I like that. 275 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 3: I also like that this offense is clearly an elite group, 276 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: to the point where if we are even at a 277 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: looking at a medium level defense, you're talking about a 278 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: for sure playoff contender, maybe even a team that can 279 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: make a run. Now we're not talking about that, We're 280 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 3: talking about an offense that they are clearly hoping is 281 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: going to continue to be play at this caliber. Maybe 282 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: regress a little bit, but probably not a ton because 283 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: of all of the guys that they have in some 284 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: of the young guys especially have upfront, can still play 285 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: at this caliber. Quinn Williams is only twenty seven years old, 286 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: he'll be twenty eight next year. When I do think 287 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: that they're going that they think their defense will be 288 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: ready to match the level of the offense. So I 289 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: just think this is obviously a little late of a 290 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: move for this season, but it's also sort of a 291 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: coming to terms with what you did first of all, 292 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: and what now you have to do next in order 293 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: to get this group as competitive as it needs to be, 294 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: seeing how far beyond and above schedule your offense is 295 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: and where your defense at least needs to hit the 296 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: floor of in order to have a more compliment menory group. 297 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: That's twenty twenty six to me, and it's good that 298 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: they have those picks because if you draft well in 299 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: a couple key spots on defense, you can play those 300 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: guys right away. You're not inserting them into a complicated 301 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: series of passing layers. You're not asking you a rookie 302 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: running back run to pass block for you. You're not 303 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: asking an offensive lineman to be really good right away. No, 304 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: you're plugging in defensive players who grow as the season continues, 305 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: with some weight bearing walls, and quinnin Williams is certainly 306 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: one of them. 307 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: But that's also to your point about looking ahead to 308 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: the draft, seeing how Quinn Williams affects the defense, and 309 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: then being able to plan ahead. 310 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: Okay, now what do we need to do point our 311 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: draft strategy? 312 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: And I love Quinn Williams. But they didn't get any 313 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: extra picks in the end. I mean, that's crazy. They 314 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: traded away Michael Parsons and they don't have any extra picks. 315 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: They just like moved up twenty Essentially, they moved up 316 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: from the Jets you know, second round or their second 317 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: round pick to the Packers' first round pick whatever ends 318 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: up that being. Let's right now, it would be about 319 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: twenty picks. 320 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying the logistics or their return on 321 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: the trade is necessarily great. I'm just saying I can 322 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: see what their process was after they realized that there's 323 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: no turning back or getting there. 324 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: The process is like is make it up as you 325 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: go along, and a lot of it I think is emotional. 326 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Jones even talked about on Monday how 327 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: annoyed he was about Michael Parsons lying down on that 328 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: trainer's table, which is, by the way, good move by 329 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. It really sounded like that was kind of 330 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: the last thing he was just like, would Michael Irvin 331 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: have ever done that? Would Deon Sanders have ever done that? 332 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: And it's like they're having to answer for a boss 333 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: that's like, go go get me someone. 334 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: Now. 335 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: I think Quinn Williams is great. He is three years 336 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: older if we're kind of comparing him and Sauce, but 337 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: I think he's probably a safer overall long term. Bet. 338 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: I just think when you look at these three trades 339 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: in general, when you're talking about the Michael Parsons, it's 340 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of crazy to me that Sauce Gardner went for 341 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: the same price as Michael Parsons. Essentially, I would argue 342 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: because I like it. I'd rather have Adi Mitchell maybe 343 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: on his money than Kenny Clark. Like Sauce Gardner costs more, 344 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: but essentially Sas Gardner and Michael Parsons cost about the same, 345 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons and Quinn Williams were pretty close to the same, 346 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: and that a miss evaluation of Michael Parsons and Cowboys 347 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: fans would be like, well that's in the past. Now 348 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: we're just talking about the president. Well it's all it's 349 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: all together, you know, you have to evaluate it all together. 350 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: And I do want to say a couple of these 351 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: teams of Packers specifically and the Colts, they are they 352 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: do share a very similar quality, which is that they 353 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: believe they're going to make a Super Bowl run. So 354 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: you stop, I mean, we saw it right next door 355 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. You really stop thinking about 356 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: what things cost when you need to add players to 357 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: get you through those little glass layers of contention as 358 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: November ends, December begins in January as well. That's the point, 359 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: like get as high of a return on those guys 360 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: as you can, and certainly that I see why the 361 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: Colts gave that much for Sauce Gardner really because of this, 362 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: because they believe that he is a right put. 363 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: The Cowboys, on the other hand, are three five. 364 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: And one with a struggling secondary and. 365 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Ensure they'll hope that they can get into Super Bowl 366 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: contention next year. But that's just it's just a hope 367 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: and there's not much reason to think about. I did 368 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: want to kind of point out though the sauce trade 369 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: is risky. Like two first, for a cornerback who is 370 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: coming off a year that was pretty poor I would 371 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: say a year ago, and this year he has some 372 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: good numbers like next in stats, notice his his tight 373 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: window forced rate is really high, like the highest in 374 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: the league in terms of like when you know passes 375 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: are coming into coverage. Now a lot of those have 376 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: been completed, but he's been in tight coverage. He does 377 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: travel with like the opposing one. The talent is obviously there, 378 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: but it I do often think about, like, cornerbacks are 379 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: impossible to like evaluate, there's so much variance. They're they're 380 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: like the Colleen Wolf of of of you know position, Now, 381 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean not? 382 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: No? 383 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Please go all no Colleen Wolf shows up here and she's, 384 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, hitting a home run every time. Cornerbacks, you 385 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know. I 386 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: just when I'm searching for words, I like to just 387 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: I just. 388 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: Think I'll help you out here, Greg. 389 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: I just think that if they don't, if the Cowboys 390 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs, which it's dicey right now, they're three, 391 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: five and one. If they don't make the playoffs, then 392 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: they're sacrificing these long term assets without even making the postseason. 393 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: So it's kind of like a huge gamble. 394 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't even care about this season if 395 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: I'm the Cowboys. I mean I care obviously, like everyone 396 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: cares about things, but like I don't if I'm them, 397 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not even looking at this move in 398 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: the vacuum of this year. I've already seen enough. This 399 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: defense is gonna let you down, Like there's no there. 400 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: They are in such a hole in the NFC at 401 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: this point that yes, they could still get into a 402 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: couple of shootouts, and certainly it's not all is not lost. 403 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: And you know three win teams have made the postseason before, 404 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: but it's November, like it's getting too late, and so 405 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: this move, like I said, I just think this is 406 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: totally made to regather yourself, admit where you're at, and 407 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: then really look ahead at twenty twenty six is the 408 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: year you may make try to make a run. 409 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: If it's for twenty twenty six, Like, why wouldn't they 410 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: have gotten more in the trade in terms of resources. 411 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, because this to Jordan's point early, and it's 412 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: a great one. It's like this is when I think 413 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: you get the most for Quinn william I mean if 414 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: you're the Jets, but I mean. 415 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: They won't pay their players or one of that they'll 416 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 3: trade for them a right. 417 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that the things that I thought 418 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: about here too is like when you're when I'm adding 419 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: up all these you know what the Cowboys got with 420 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: the Jets on your got what the Packers got, Like, 421 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: here's what the Cowboys didn't get Quinn and Williams for 422 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the last nine weeks, you know. And I think that's 423 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: part of it too, And that gets to my point 424 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: about they're just making up as they go along, like 425 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams. They lost that half season of Quinn Williams. 426 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: But I do think the ages are important because the 427 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: Colts are looking at this at like, yeah, we're sacrificing 428 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: these draft picks. That is gonna hurt our team building 429 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: process overall. But Sas Gardner is a young player that 430 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: is not going anywhere anytime soon. 431 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: I just think it literally is as simple as this. 432 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: You're almost saying the same thing as me, But I 433 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: think it's literally just as simple as this. The Coults 434 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: are in truly win now mode, like not just they 435 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: think they are. They are in win now mode, So 436 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: they're going to pay a higher price for a player 437 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: they think can help them win a Super Bowl. Sat 438 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 3: Packers did the same thing, but they didn't pay as 439 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: high a price. This is not creeping up to the 440 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: trade deadline. Nobody really knew what they were going to 441 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: look like, even though they're a very good team. Clearly 442 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: we're seeing the fallout of that now. The Cowboys on 443 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: the other side, understand they are not a win now 444 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: team right now, but they have a win now offense 445 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: that probably will not regress much in twenty twenty six. 446 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: So they're paying for twenty twenty six, and they're paying 447 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six money to twenty twenty six, if that 448 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: makes sense. 449 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Sure, I think ultimately it's also just I just don't think. 450 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: They're like floating at the breeze, like plant not plan. 451 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: I think they're legitimately planning for twenty twenty six. 452 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I have. 453 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm giving them too much credit. 454 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean I believe they're they're GM like or who 455 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: sort of acts as a GM. Will Will McClay right, 456 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: like he's he's doing the best that he can with 457 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: the orders that that he's got. But I think I 458 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: think it's chaotic, and I do think it's a show 459 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: of faith in Daniel Jones and Aaron Glenn. I ultimately 460 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: think that the Jets are saying, like we're gonna we're 461 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: gonna understand that you're gonna keep losing Aaron Glenn and 462 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: Darren Mugy their GM and like we're gonna stay with 463 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: you because it would be insane to be like firing 464 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: your head coach after doing something like this. And I 465 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: do think it's the cult saying, yeah, we got a 466 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: bargain with Daniel Jones right now, we are gonna pay 467 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: him so much money because none of this makes any 468 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: sense unless Daniel Jones is making all that money next 469 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: year as a member of the Colts. Pretty crazy and 470 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: a badass. Secondary. By the way, when Charvarius Ward gets back, 471 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: it'll be Charvarius Ward, Kenny Moore and Sas Gardner. Let's 472 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back and 473 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: we'll finish up the other trades from a big trade deadline. 474 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, and you mentioned Michael Parson's going 475 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: as a potential award winner. You know what you're gonna 476 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: have to do. If you're an NFL Day or list. 477 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: Just check out our big time award show. Hey, we've 478 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: got Colleen Wolf and Jordan working double here. We're taking 479 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: a couple shows, so everyone check out our mids and 480 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: awards which are coming. 481 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: But we have some fun ones. 482 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: You can't only talk about the Jets and and all 483 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: their draft picks. I was thinking, like, okay, they had 484 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of draft picks, like a few years ago. 485 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: They once had four first round draft picks. That was 486 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand. That was the famous that the infamous 487 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Brady draft. John Gruden and Mike Mayock once had 488 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: three first round picks. 489 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: That it did not work out. 490 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: That was the offensive lineman, right, but they took. 491 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: That was that was one of them. Yes, yeah, there 492 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: were there were still playing Cleveland. Ferrell didn't work out. 493 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: So sometimes you know, what's in the mystery box is 494 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: not as good. But I'm hoping that they can turn 495 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: it around. Let's talk about some other moves that happened 496 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Was excited for this one. Rashid Shahed to 497 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks for a fourth and fifth round pick. The 498 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Saints made a couple moves. They also traded Trevor Penning 499 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: to the Chargers, but this Shahed move seems like I 500 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: could really have an impact impact in the NFC. 501 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I love that they did this, and it 502 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: sounded like based on some reporting that they were scouring 503 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: the receiver market just to try to see I just 504 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: think this is probably was probably their A plus plan 505 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: because of his connections with Clint Kubiak from back with 506 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: Kubiak was the Saints offensive coordinator. I love this not 507 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: just for the passing game because like, good luck to 508 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: you picking which player you would like to tilt your 509 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: coverage toward and godspeed, but also they can truly stay 510 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: in a lot of their twelve personnel like they want 511 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: to because you've got two true burner receivers who can 512 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: exploit so many different intermediate and long layers of the 513 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: passing game and they can stay just as explosive. But 514 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: I think this helps open up their run game, which 515 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: I love because if more defenders are accounting for multiple 516 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: receivers who can hurt you deep on the field, that 517 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: means they're going to have less of those defenders in 518 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: the box. Stopping the run, and they have struggled with 519 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: running against medium or even heavier boxes. They're not seeing 520 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: it's on a lot boxes so far this year, so 521 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: I think it helps them become a much more complete 522 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 3: team and they can stay in their preferred heavy personnels 523 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: but still have that lightning speed threat on the perimeter 524 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: and all across the middle of the field because these 525 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: guys can run a lot of different types of combinations. 526 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it'll be a much quicker integration I 527 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: think into the offense yea because of Quint Kobiac being there. 528 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: It gives Sam Darnold another deep threat in this offense, 529 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: and it comes at a perfect time while some of 530 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: these Seattle Seahawks receivers are dealing with injuries, like Cooper Cup. 531 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: He's also an All Pro returner, so this could help 532 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: out their special teams as well. 533 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 4: Seattle. I love it for this offense and. 534 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: For Greg your team, who you said weeks and weeks 535 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: ago was the best in the NFC potentially, and now 536 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: I feel like after a primetime game, people are on 537 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 2: board with this more and more. 538 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: It is such a strange place to be because the 539 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: NFC is so loaded, so it's like you would still 540 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: take the field certainly over the Seahawks. Heck, like the 541 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: NFC West is so loaded that we don't know by 542 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: any means that they're gonna win their division. It's awesome 543 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: that the Seahawks and Rams still have two games left 544 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: against each other, and just it just feels like six 545 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: of the best eight or nine teams in the NFL 546 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: are in the NFC. So nothing's guaranteed. But I don't 547 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: think the price was too big a fourth and a fifth. 548 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it was fair for both sides. Actually give 549 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: the Saints some credit for getting a pretty fair value. 550 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: I think for a guy that they probably weren't going 551 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: to resign, I just don't know why you weren't resigning him, 552 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: because up until this year he was like a guy 553 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: averaging sixteen seventeen yards per catch and just has incredible 554 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: speed that you can't really find anywhere else. 555 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, yet another reason you're talking about 556 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: the depth and the how loaded the NFC has yet 557 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: another reason why the Cowboys decided to look honestly at 558 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: themselves and work toward twenty twenty six and actually admit 559 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: the truth. Yeah, this is my favorite trade of the 560 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: entire day. 561 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: I love this. 562 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 3: I love the fact that we are going to see 563 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: a couple of these teams, the Rams included and the 564 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: Seahawks reach their fullest form, like exactly the right time, 565 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: barring any sort of crazy circumstantial changes with injuries. And 566 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: I like that. It's it's like like explaining your faith 567 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: in Sam Darnold because you're giving him more weapons. It 568 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 3: is helping out JSN because you know that once you 569 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: get to the playoffs, it's going to be total matchup 570 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: football and defenses are going to try to figure out 571 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: how to game plan your best player out of that game, 572 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: so then hit him with another guy. Like I just 573 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: I loved this, and I like it for the Saints 574 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: because again, like you said, they got decent value out 575 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 3: of it. 576 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: We still don't know what they're getting for Trevor Penning, 577 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: who was famously a h surprise first round pick that 578 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: they traded extra picks up for and did not work out, 579 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: very similar to how Mickey Loomis traded up to first 580 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: for Marcus. 581 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: That probably want to get released like overnight, just like 582 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: slipped into the mix. You know, it came in right 583 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: under the wire. It was the last trade of the day. 584 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: It's probably trying to hide it. 585 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: It's probably not a ton and uh we talked about 586 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: it me and shook On on Monday night too, Like, 587 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: will the Chargers try to do something to help that 588 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: offensive line after losing Joe Alt so that that makes 589 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: sense on that perspective, I do wonder, you know, Cooper 590 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: Cup is not a long term answer for the Seahawks. 591 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he was on the roster next season. 592 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: They do have an out in that contract. I don't 593 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: think it's been like a great fit, and I think 594 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: he'll just play less now because if they're in that 595 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: twelve personnel, you know, he's not going to be on 596 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: the field all the time. And that's that's not the 597 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: worst thing he could give you more maybe playing twenty 598 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: thirty snaps. Tory Horton looked pretty good for the other day. 599 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: Like Seahawks, they're rolling seas. Jacoby Myers went to the 600 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars for two mid round picks, a fourth and a six, 601 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: And I just want to congratulate Jacoby Myers because I 602 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: feel like no one else wanted to get traded more 603 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: than Jacoby Myers, kind of like Devanta Adams last year. 604 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully this works out better for Jacoby Myers than DeVante 605 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Adams and his time with the Jets a year ago. 606 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: But even then I think he was just still happy 607 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: to get out of there. 608 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it fills an immediate need for the Jags 609 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: with Why am I blanking Ravis Hunter? I wanted to 610 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 2: call him Trevor Lawrence. 611 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: Obviously that's the quarterback, but it's the commercials, which right now, 612 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: they took a big gamble in the first place doing 613 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: all the Trevor Lawrence Travis Hunter. 614 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what it is exactly. 615 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: It's a great commercial, but it was a risk and yeah. 616 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously this will help out. And it's not 617 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: like Travis Hunter was giving them a whole lot at 618 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: the wide receiver position because they kept switching him back 619 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: and forth between a couple snaps here on defense, a 620 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: couple snaps here on offense. I just don't know if 621 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: that is going to work for him going forward. Maybe 622 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: next year everything will slow down a little bit more. 623 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: He can he can contribute a little bit more. But 624 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: when I was doing the international game that they were on, 625 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: Gerald McCoy was just talking about Travis Hunter and how 626 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: he really believed that he should only be playing defense 627 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, and then here 628 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: and there having like a couple fun little packages for 629 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: him on offense. 630 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: But I like that Jacoby Myers now will be there. 631 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: He's a wide receiver that will be able to help 632 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence now that Travis Hunter is not out there. 633 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: And Deanmi Brown also got hurt in that game last week, 634 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: like that could have been part of it. Parker Washington 635 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: was their clear number one. Brian Thomas Junior got a 636 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: little banged up in that game. Don't know if it 637 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: was serious. Ian Rappaport does say though Travis Hunter will 638 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: be back this season, probably pretty soon after he's eligible 639 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: to get off IR which is three more weeks, and 640 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: that it'll still be playing wide receiver. 641 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: Can I put my Galaxy brain head on for one? 642 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Please? 643 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: Do you need help with its heavy it's so heavy. 644 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: Rain. 645 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: I don't know how your next supports the. 646 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: So I think that this is a move not just 647 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: to give them a little help production help in the 648 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: short term. I also think this is a move that 649 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: sets in motion a more cohesive plan for Travis Hunter 650 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 3: and this passing game in the long term after he 651 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: is back from this injury, because if you bring in 652 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers, one of the things that that tells me 653 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: is you would like to have a Chris Godwin like 654 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: player in the slot, which Travis Hunter can be, which 655 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: Liam Cohen is trying to turn a passing volume and 656 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: dictating his passing game through that player. And I do 657 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: believe they think that player can be Travis Hunter, and 658 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: so then you can have your perimeter threat still in 659 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers. And it has been really weird with Brian 660 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: Thomas Junior, whether it's they're running him in concepts he's 661 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: clearly not comfortable with or he's taking a step back, 662 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: and then there's like weird trade rumors circulating about him 663 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: that the team is like super quick to shut down, 664 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: but like still reports surfacing about well we'll take a call. 665 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, didn't happen in the end, but yeah, it 666 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: sounds like they were listening if someone wanted to give 667 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: them a so Sauce Gardner type offer. 668 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think that not only is this 669 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 3: like a Okay, we need to keep producing as an 670 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: offense in the short term, but we also need to 671 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: have a much better plan overall and reset what we 672 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: want to do in the passing game, and whether it 673 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: is the reverse of what I said, where you're seeing 674 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: Jacoby a little bit more inside and Trevor Travis Hunter. 675 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: I just did it, Travis Hunter on the perimeter. Just 676 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: one of these players has to be the volume inside guy. 677 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: That's what Liam Collin wants to do. We've seen it 678 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: work and so that's where I think this actually resets 679 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 3: their passing layers in a big way. And I just 680 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: don't think we're talking about it yet, and maybe we 681 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: will be after Travis Hunter gets back. 682 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know, though. 683 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: Take this off. 684 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: It does you're here here, It does like a little 685 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: all right, got it? 686 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Got it all Like there's a lot of repeating, maybe 687 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: duplicative skill sets. I mean, Hunter and Jacoby Myers are different, 688 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: but Jacoby Myers is a predominantly slot player throughout his career, 689 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: and he plays plenty on the outside too, but most 690 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: of his snaps are in the slot. And Parker Washington 691 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: was outstanding in the preseason and last week. It's kind 692 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: of a predominant slot type of player. Deanmy Brown is hurt. 693 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: I think that maybe we'll find out as a bigger 694 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: part of it, But Jacoby Myers just a good player. 695 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: The interesting thing to me and keep an eye out. Yeah, 696 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: well we'll wrap here is like Shaheed and Myers are 697 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: both on the last year of their contracts, so it's 698 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of tryout period for both of them. Because if 699 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: you're going to give up two mid round picks, sure 700 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: it would help if they help you in a playoff 701 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: run now, but you would love that to be like 702 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: a long, long term thing, and I think Shaheed would 703 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: have a better chance for it to be a long 704 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: term thing. But who knows, Maybe maybe Jacoby Myers ends 705 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: up like re signing with the Jaguars or something long 706 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: term they want. 707 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: They want to Chris Godwin, one of Mike Evans. However, 708 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: it shakes out one or two. I believe one of 709 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: those players is Travis Hunter and the other one is 710 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: going to be Jacobe Myers after Travis Hunter gets back. However, 711 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 3: whichever position it shakes out being slot for what's. 712 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, Then he's Jalen McMillan. 713 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 3: I figured out man Emica Buca. He's Emicaua had a 714 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: step back though he took from last season. It's hard 715 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: when a new coaching staff comes in and it just 716 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: doesn't seem quite congruous to me yet. And it's I 717 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: don't know that it's anyone's fault, particularly I certainly don't 718 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: want to bury the player. He's so talented, he really 719 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: is so talented. But it's like Patrick clayboun noticed it 720 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 3: early in the season. They're sending him on all these 721 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: inbreakers that he doesn't feel comfortable with. Then he's running 722 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 3: some inbreakers, some outbreakers. Trevor Lawrence, I almost did it again. 723 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is only targeting him on outbreaking routes like 724 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: his His heat chart for passing is crazy in terms 725 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: of where Brian Thomas Junior is running and the only 726 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: times he will throw him the ball. So I'm just 727 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 3: saying there's there's something going on that just is not 728 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: quite matching. Yet it gets resolved, But you don't make 729 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: a move like this just because people are in your crabit. 730 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 4: Hunter is to. 731 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence as Sam Darnold is to Sam. 732 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 4: Bradfirst, right, all right, right, I've got there. 733 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: Gets the Jacoby Myers just like a just a comfortable 734 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: pair of shoes, you know what I mean, Like you 735 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get, And I have this feeling 736 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: that he's some aged receiver because it was crazy that 737 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots let him walk that contract age so well, 738 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: he only got thirty three million dollars over three years, 739 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't even pay him that much or thirty 740 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: nine million dollars over three years. He's only twenty eight 741 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: years old, so Jacoby Myers still I think has two 742 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: or three more good years. But like Shaheed in Seattle, 743 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: they'll have decisions to make pretty soon. They'll get a 744 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: little time to test drive it another couple minor deals 745 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: before we say goodbye. I should have mentioned with the 746 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys they also picked up Logan Wilson for a seventh 747 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: which is funny that they just gave up a pick 748 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: for Logan Wilson, a guy who you know couldn't get 749 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: on the field for the Bengals, but he probably will 750 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: help that Cowboys linebacker group, which is not great. And 751 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: then a l golden Yes and their their defense for 752 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: what it's worth. You know, they benched them and started 753 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: playing two rookies. They've somehow gotten even worse since they 754 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: benched them. And I always feel bad for Logan Wilson 755 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: because I'll always just remember that holding Callie had that 756 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of swung the Super Bowl that was maybe not 757 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: a holding calls they called it totally forgot about pretty tight. 758 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: I mean the Rams would have had a couple more 759 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: plays at the goal line, but you know, if they 760 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: didn't call it, who knows, Joe tryan shank also to 761 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: the Bears for a late round pick swap. So that's 762 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: it for our trade deadline the Cold are going for. 763 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: I feel satisfied, so alive. How do you feel, by 764 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: the way, as an Eagles. 765 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 3: Call it a live line? 766 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: Am I right? Hey? 767 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: Yes? 768 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: How do you feel as an Eagles fan? To me 769 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: that Jalen Phillips trade was not as big as these 770 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: Jets trade, but just as big or bigger than the 771 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Rashid Jaheed and Jacobe Myers moves. You get a real 772 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: deal young. 773 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: Prush, best pass rusher at the deadline. And so of 774 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: course Howie Roseman was like, Ring Ring, let me grab him, 775 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna also help out my secondary as well. 776 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: I love the move. It's aggressive and that's what Howie style. 777 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm wondering who's gonna get cut there that someone can't 778 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: make that team because they're adding Brandon Graham too to 779 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: the mix, they're adding Jalen Phillips. 780 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 3: So the next they only had fifty one roster spots. 781 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 1: Though, right they did clear some room in terms of space. 782 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: Jalx Hunt is like is there? I mean an Olan 783 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: Smith is there, but he's not on the active roster 784 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: right now. It's just they got They got a lot 785 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: of players. They got a lot of cornerbacks. 786 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: Michael Carter, they brought in, Jaya Alexander they brought in Also, 787 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: they earlier in the year, Tank Bigsby they brought in 788 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: Uh Like this is you. 789 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: Don't have to wait to the deadline to make the moves. 790 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: But I'm glad that some teams did, so good luck 791 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: to the Jets. We'll be talking about you a lot 792 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: in the upcoming march in April twenty. What else is 793 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: six and seven Cowboys will be talking about you a 794 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: little less than we expected. 795 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: I will fight the good fight. 796 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 4: That's right. You were so high on the Cowboys in 797 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: the off season. 798 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: I thought, well, that was before Michael Parsons got traded. 799 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: But yes, I did take them over eight wins this year, 800 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: and I guess Quinn Williams gives it, gives us a chance. 801 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you who's not given up on Greg. Yeah, 802 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is not giving up on twenty twenty five. 803 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: It's my point, the eternal off to this. All right, 804 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: we will come back for the awards on Wednesday morning. Yeah, 805 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: so tomorrow. 806 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 4: We'll be back tomorrow. 807 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: We'll also do our t NF preview. Yes, you'll you'll 808 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: see that show in the feed. Pre season, MVP all 809 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: the rest will be wearing the same stuff. We will 810 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: see that