1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Week in Review, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the stories that 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: you may have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: First up, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats. They wanted the 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Department of Home Insecurities shut down and why to hurt 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: as much as possible. We've got all of their reasoning 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: behind it and what they're still trying to do. Also, 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Jack Smith and Arctic Frost. The Democrats went all in 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: to destroy Donald Trump and the people around him. It 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: didn't work, and now what we're witnessing is truly shocking. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: We have the latest details of what's been exposed on 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: that as well. And finally an update on the Save 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: America Act. Where we are now and are we going 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: to get it done? It's the Week in Review and 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: it starts right now. Go over the list of what 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: has already been given. As you're being held I say, 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: as you, as the American people, as the travelers are 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: being held hostage. 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, and let's take more fundamentally. The DHS Appropriations Bill 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: was a bipartisan bill negotiated between Republicans and Democrats that 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: came out of the Appropriations Committee with bipartisan support. So 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: the Democrats had all of these different reforms that they 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: put into DHS that Republicans agreed to. By the way, 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: none of those reforms have happened because they won't allow 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: it to be funded. Yeah, the White House has been 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: trying to negotiate with Democrats, although, as I said, for 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: more than two weeks, the Democrats wouldn't even meet. They 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: had nothing to say. This was while TSA was not 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: getting paid, while DHS was not getting paid. The Democrats 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: position was, no, we won't even sit and talk. And 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: it's why I said, well. 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: And that's how you know it's premeditated. The point that 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: you made earlier like this is clearly they decided this 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: is the issue we're going to go on, and we 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: are premeditating this and we wanted to hurt. 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually even different from premeditated. I think to 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: some extent, they're in a box. Their base hates ice. 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: If you're a Democrat senator, look here, I'm gonna tell 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: you what, John Fetterman tweet tweeted this weekend. Elon Musk 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: stepped in and said, I would like to offer to 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: pay the salaries of TSA personnel during this funding impasse 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: that is so negatively affecting the lives of so many Americans. 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: It was incredibly generous. Elon is a patriot. Here's what 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: John Fetterman said, This is incredibly generous. TSA agents across 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: the country are relying on food pantries and community donations 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: just to get by. I remain the lone Democrat to 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: vote with my Republican colleagues to fully fund DHS and 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: get people paid. It should never come to this point, 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: So Fetterman speaking the truth. Here's the problem. Most of 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: the rest of the Democrat senators. They're in a situation 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: where they feel if they vote to fund ICE, their 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: angry open border activists will never forgive them, and I 53 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 2: think a lot of them are engaged in political cowardice. 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: They're unwilling to vote to FUNDIZ. Mind you, that literally 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: means that they don't want murderers arrested, they don't want 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: child rapists arrested, they don't want gang bangers arrested, ices, 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: narco terrorists. I mean, the ICE is who is arresting 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: criminals in the interior of the United States. The Democrat 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: political reality is their angry base hates them so much. 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: Look these are the same people that are abolished the police. 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: These are the same people that are abolish ice. And 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: so I'll tell you this week, Republican Senators, when we're 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: in session, we have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: And then actually we were here throughout throughout the weekend. 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: We were in DC, so we had lunch Friday, Saturday, 66 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: and Sunday as well. And what I'm arguing to my colleagues, 67 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: I said, listen, I think the Democrats are so wildly 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: unreasonable that they may be content to leave DHS defunded 69 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: for the entire year. 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Really, they don't. 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Care about the consequences of what they're doing. They don't 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: care about the fact that every TSA agent would have 73 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: to quit and you would literally shut down every airport 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: in the country like it's there. They believe we can 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: blame it on Trump and the Republicans and and and 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: that they are there's not a common ground of reasonableness. 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, Sean. Sean Duffy said on 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: on I think it was facin Nation Sunday morning that 79 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: he said, if you if you think it's bad, now, 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: wait till this coming week when you miss another it's 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be worse. And his point was you 82 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: will have so many people quit that now you've got 83 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: a problem that you don't have a big enough workforce 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: even when you get back to being funded. How concerned 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: are you about that? Is that part of the Democrats plan? 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like it's it's kind of the the way 87 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: that they did would defund the police. Well, if we 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: can't directly do it, we'll just drive him so crazy 89 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: that they quit their jobs. They don't want to be 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: police anymore. 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think plan is giving them too much credit. 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: They don't have a plan. They're just obeying their angry 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: activists who are just screaming. They're just engaged in a 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: primal scream. And So what I told my colleagues is, listen, 95 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: if we're working with people who are objectively unreasonable and 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: who may well say, we will never vote to fund 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: ice again. Here's what I've suggested. All Right, fine, if 98 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: that's the reality, we should get the Democrats to fund 99 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: all of DHS, accept ice, carve ice out. Now you 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: might say, okay, that's a terrible idea, because then Ice 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: doesn't get funded. Remember we've already funded ICE for four years. 102 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: So agree to fund everything, accept ICE. And then when 103 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: I urge my colleagues is if they force us to 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: do that, we should immediately take up a reconciliation bill 105 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: and fund ICE for the next ten years and what 106 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: I advocated for, and we should increase ICE's budget by 107 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: ten percent. So if that's going to be the price, 108 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: we Democrats will never again vote for border security. We 109 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: will never again vote for ICE. 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 111 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: Then, at the end of the day, the only way 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: I see to solve this problem reconciliation. Remember we've talked 113 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: about this before. It is the one procedural mechanism the 114 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: Senate can use that does not require sixty votes. Yeah, 115 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: that just Republicans can pass it. And so if the 116 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: Democrats would agree, we'll fund all of DHS except ICE. 117 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: The next week, we should come back and do a 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: reconciliation and fund ICE for a decade. Because I'm not 119 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: convinced that these these loans are going to change their 120 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: mind in the next ten years. 121 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point for people that are going 122 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: to be traveling this week. What is your gut do 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: you think there's a what are the chances that we 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: could actually get something done here where then things could 125 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: start to go back to normal, say of going in 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: the in the direction they're going now, which is these 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: two three and four hour plus wits. 128 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know. I think there is a real 129 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: urgency in the Senate to try to get this resolved 130 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: before the Easter holiday. The question is are the Democrats 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: going to budge that. There are a few of the 132 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: kind of the Democrats who occasionally will reach a deal, 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: who are making noises like they want to, but Chuck 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: Schumer doesn't care. Chuck Schumer is terrified of being primary 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: from the left. And in fact, I want to I 136 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: want to read a little bit from a story in 137 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: the in the wash in the Wall Street Journal about 138 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer. So he has been wildly left wing. Yeah, 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: so much so that he's now done the longest shutdown 140 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: in government history. And then he's turned around and uh 141 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: turn turned around and has shut the TSA down and 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: refused to pay them. Here's a story that just came 143 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: out in the Wall Street Journal. Growing frustration with Chuck 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: Schumer spurs talk of replacing him. And you might say, oh, 145 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: thank god. Maybe some Democrats are saying this is it's 146 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: two obstructionists. You're too unreasonable. Nope, nope. You know who 147 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: wants to replace him, the left wing because he's not 148 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: burn it down enough. Yeah, and let me read the 149 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: beginning of this article. Senator Chris Murphy was dining with 150 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: progressive activists at a French restaurant in Washington's Georgetown neighborhood. 151 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: Could you be more cliche as a Democrat than that? 152 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: I suppose? You know, maybe a vegan French restaurant would 153 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: make it even better. When their conversation about how to 154 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: advance their legislative priorities turned to a thorny question what 155 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: to do about Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. To the 156 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: surprise of some attendees, the Connecticut Democrat, a rising star 157 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: in the party's left flank, responded that some lawmakers had 158 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: been doing informal counts to see whether enough votes existed 159 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: to remove the New York Democrat from his leadership position. 160 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: According to people familiar with the mid February dinner, Murphy 161 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: explained that Schumer had enough backing to remain as leader, 162 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: but the disclosure stood out nonetheless because it revealed the 163 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: frustration inside the Senate had reached a high enough level 164 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: that some Democrats were actively contemplating how to al Schumer Wow. 165 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: Murphy is among a group of senators and top advisors 166 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: who've grown increasingly dissatisfied with Schumer's leadership, According to people 167 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: familiar with the conversation who else. That group includes Senator 168 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who has been initiated conversations with 169 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: other senators to gauge frustrations with Schumer. Some of the 170 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: people said Senator Tina Smith at Minnesota has also been 171 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: active in discussions whether frustration with Schumer. In an interview, 172 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: Murphy said he's frequently asked about Senate leadership, but he 173 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have account of who would vote to remove Schumer 174 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: and doesn't recall mentioning one. In more than four dozen 175 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: interviews with Democrats, senators and others, many said the concern 176 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: about Schumer's leadership was widespread. But what are the mad 177 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: at and this is where it's amazing. Murphy, Warren, and 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Smith are part of a batch of senators dubbed fight Club, 179 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: who are particularly incensed by Schumer's approach to the midterms. 180 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: This group of progressives believes that Schumer favors centrist candidates 181 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: in some key races, so their whole argument, even though 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: Schumer is just saying let it burn. I mean, reminds 183 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: me of Heath Ledger in the dark night as Batman 184 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: just saying let it burn. Who cares what happens if 185 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: their terror attacks not Chuck Schumer's problem. If every airport 186 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: is shut down, not Chuck Schumer's problem. If people can't 187 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: pay their rent or mortgage, not Chuck Schumer's problem. And 188 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: yet the Elizabeth Warrens of the party say not enough, 189 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: You need to do more. I don't even know what 190 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: Moore would look like, but that is the reality of 191 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: where Democrats are. And as long as the media does 192 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: what Greta did and what so many other CNN does 193 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: an MSNBC does, as long as they keep covering it 194 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: up and pretending no, no, no, it's not the Democrats who 195 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: are shutting it down, They'll keep doing the exact same thing. 196 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they really will. I got to ask you an 197 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: audible question real quick, because you mentioned you're in DC 198 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Give us a thirty second update on 199 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: where we are with the Save Act. 200 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: We are continuing to debate it, but right now every 201 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: Democrat votes no, and we are not doing a talking filibuster. 202 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: We are not requiring the Democrats to a talking filibuster. 203 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: So I think the expectation is we're going to vote 204 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: on it this week, and if nothing changes, the vote 205 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: is going to go down. I'm President Trump is deeply frustrated, 206 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: as you know, as I talked about, and we did 207 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: an earlier podcast which if folks want a deep dive 208 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: on the Save America Act, you could have have an 209 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: entire podcast last week devoted to explaining what was going on. 210 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: I think we should use the procedural rules to force 211 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: the Democrats to stand and talk and talk and talk 212 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: and do a full talking filibuster. But we're not right now. 213 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: So has Trump waited on that idea? By the way, 214 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, oh you got to talk? 215 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 216 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: No, no, what does he say? 217 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: He's vocally in favor of it, But in order to 218 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: do it, we have to have fifty Republicans stand together, 219 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: and we don't have fifty. That that's the fundamental problem 220 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: is is. 221 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: A is it two or three? 222 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: Look, it's hard to tell. We have fifty three Republicans, 223 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: which means we can lose at most three. They are 224 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: at least four and potentially more that are knows and 225 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: and the problem is you have in particular Republicans who 226 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: are retiring, so they're not going to be on the ballot. 227 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: That makes it very hard for the White House to 228 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: pressure them if they're not they're not up for reelection. 229 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot there's not a whole lot 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: of leverage there. 231 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 232 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 233 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Santa, 234 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I want to finish the show with a really important subject, 235 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and you've described it as bigger than Watergate. It's a 236 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: modern day Watergate, certainly, but we now have a dive 237 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: into the bombshell Senate Judiciary hearing on Arctic frost, and 238 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: you had a great statement, Center, and I want to 239 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: play it for everybody. This is how you kind of 240 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: described what's happening. 241 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: Watergate was about a handful of files in a single office. 242 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: This reached into tens of thousands of private communications, emails, records, 243 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: and personal data, tall records, bank records, donor lists, law 244 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: firm records, and other personal files relating to every major 245 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: conservative organization were subpoena. 246 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: Center that sums it up. This was a one hundred 247 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: percent weaponization of our Department of Justice to go after 248 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and anyone they thought was important to him 249 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: that could help him win the White House. Again. 250 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: Well, that clip was from a hearing I chaired this 251 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: week of the Senate Judiciary Committee that was examining Arctic 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: Frost and was releasing yet more documents that showed the 253 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: massive scope of the abuse of power. 254 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Look. 255 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: Watergate, at the end of the day was a handful 256 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: of Cuban burglars who broke into an office of the DNC, 257 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: and it was a failed burglar that didn't even succeed, 258 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: and it resulted in the President of the United States 259 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: resigning in disgrace. It resulted in more than forty people 260 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: being criminally prosecuted, many of them going to jail. By 261 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: any measure, Arctic Frost was orders of magnitude wars. You 262 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: had nearly two hundred subpoenas, You had more than four 263 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: hundred individuals and groups that were targeted. The Biden Department 264 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: of Justice issued subpoenas to get the phone records for 265 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: more than twenty percent of the Republicans in the Senate, 266 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: including yours. Truly, it was a massive abuse of power. 267 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: And the amazing thing is the Democrats don't care at all. 268 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: And one of the points I made at the hearing, 269 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: they are a bunch of Democrat senators sitting there at 270 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: the hearing, and I pointed out, not a one of 271 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: them is going to say a word. They don't care 272 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: about abusive power. For them, partisanship and partisan control is 273 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: all that mattered. And I contrasted it with what happened 274 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: in Watergate. Here, listen to what I had to say. 275 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Fifty years ago, this nation was confronted with an abusive power, 276 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: and it responded not with indifference, but with accountability. I'll 277 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: tell you one of the big differences of Watergate versus 278 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: Arctic Frost. When Richard Nixon and his corrupt Attorney general 279 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: in his corrupt administration abused their law enforcement powers to 280 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: go after their political opponents, Republican senators stood up to 281 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: the president of their own party and defended the rule 282 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: of law. Where is even a single Democrat senator who 283 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: has said one word about this abuse of power. 284 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: You're right, by the way, they're all silent on it 285 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: because they don't care as long as it was spying 286 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: on you. 287 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: Literally, Yeah, and look, I will say what happened in Gate, 288 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: what actually ended in and when Richard Nixon resigned is 289 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: it was a group of senior Republican senators that drove 290 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: the sixteen blocks up Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House 291 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: and sat in the Oval office and they said, mister President, 292 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: you have a choice. You either resign or we will 293 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: impeach you and convict you and remove you from office. 294 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: And it was a moment of real political courage for 295 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: those senators to do that. I'm not a Richard Nixon fan. 296 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: I think he was utterly corrupt. As you know, Ben, 297 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: I've written four books. The third book I wrote was 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: called Justice Corrupted, How the Left has weaponized the legal System, 299 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: And the opening chapter of that book is a deep 300 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: dive into Watergate and it details the just absolute corruption 301 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: and abuse of power what Richard Nixon tried to do, 302 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: Barack Obama and now Joe Biden succeeded in doing. And 303 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: one of the real differences is Republicans were willing to 304 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: stand up and say no, this goes too far. There 305 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: are no Democrats willing to do so. And all right, 306 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: so there was a witness that the Democrats had called 307 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: who was a former senior agent of the FBI, and 308 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: he gave this whole testimony about how the FBI is 309 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: utterly beyond politics and it's impartial and it has no 310 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: partisan agenda at all. And I actually cross examined him 311 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: quite a bit, and I said, look, I agree with 312 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: what you're saying. That's what the FBI is supposed to be, 313 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: and that's what DOJ is supposed to be. And I'm 314 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: an alumnus of the Department of Justice. I served in 315 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: the George W. Bush Department of Justice, and it has 316 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: a more than century long tradition of being outside of politics, 317 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: not partisan at all. And I said, one of the 318 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: worst things that Barack Obama and especially Joe Biden did 319 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: is they corrupted it and turned DOJ in the FBI 320 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: into partisan tools. And this witness didn't want to admit it. 321 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: But here's one question I asked him. Give a listen. 322 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: Menendez is currently incarcerated in prison for corruption. And if 323 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: you've got evidence of criminal conduct of one individual, the 324 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: Department of Justice as an obligation to investigate that, would 325 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 2: you agree that's qualitatively different than a phishing expedition targeting 326 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the Republicans in the Senate, would you 327 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: agree that's qualitatively different. I'm not familiar with the details 328 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: of either investigation, so I wouldn't want to speculate. Well, 329 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: let me ask you this. Would you be troubled if 330 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: tomorrow the Trump Department of Justice issued a subpoena for 331 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: the phone records of every Democrat that sits on the 332 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee, not if it was based on factual evidence, 333 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: specific and articulable effects. Well, let me be clear, I'd 334 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: be damn troubled. And that would be an abuse of power. 335 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: And I'm going to predict not a single Democrat is 336 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: going to say even a word about the abuse of 337 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: power on their side, and that double standard is troubling. 338 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Senatorly, Senator, you're absolutely right there in the point that 339 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: you were making. 340 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is amazing that nobody and by the way, 341 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: the entire hearing, the Democrats were completely silent. Like when 342 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 2: it came their turn to question, they just said orange 343 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: man bat they just said we hate Donald Trump. They 344 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: didn't acknowledge it. Look, one of the things that happened 345 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: in Arctic Frost is not only did you have Jack 346 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: Smith getting subpoenas for the phone records of twenty percent 347 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: of the Republicans in the Senate, and by the way, 348 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: also getting subpoenas and wire tapping Cash Patel, who was 349 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: then a private citizen an now is the director of 350 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: the FBI. They tapped the phones of Susie Wiles, who 351 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: was then the campaign manager. She was running Donald Trump's campaign. 352 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: I mean this was a political opposition effort. And by 353 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: the way, they taped her conversations with her lawyer, which 354 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: is illegal on any level if you look at the 355 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: subpoenas they issued for the senators. They also went to 356 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: Judge Boseberg, who is an extraordinarily partisan, left wing judge. 357 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: He's the favorite judge for these radical groups that have 358 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: been getting nationwide injunctions against various Trump policies. I chared 359 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 2: a hearing several months ago calling for Judge Boseburg to 360 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: be impeached and removed from office because he is so 361 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: extreme in Arctic frost. For every single Senator that Jack 362 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: Smith subpoenaed, he signed an order ordering the phone companies 363 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: not to disclose to us that they were subpoena on 364 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: our phone record. And in that order he concluded, the 365 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: court finds that we will destroy evidence. If we know 366 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: about it now, there is zero basis in fact to 367 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: make that finding. Look, i'm a member of the bar. 368 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: My integrity matters a great deal to me. I'm not 369 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: going to destroy evidence, and there are no facts that 370 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: could be introduced that would suggest I could. There's also 371 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: a federal statute prohibiting non disclosure orders for Senate records, 372 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: and yet Judge Boseburg violated the law. That was the 373 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: kind of abuse of power we saw in Arctic frost, 374 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: and it was truly unprecedented. It makes Watergates seem mild 375 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: by comparison. 376 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: No doubt. We're going to keep covering this, don't forget. 377 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: Download Vertic with Ted Cruise wherever you get your podcasts, 378 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: and if you're listening to this radio show, we do 379 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: it Monday, Wednesday Friday. If you're listening on the radio 380 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: right now, thank you for joining us, and we'll see 381 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: you back here on this station as well. Next week. 382 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: It is Vertic with Ted Cruise. We'll see you on 383 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: the podcast all week long as before. If you want 384 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, 385 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: you can go back and download the podcast from early 386 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: this week to hear the entire thing. I want to 387 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: get back to the big story number three of the 388 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: week you may have missed. Let's give an update on 389 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: the latest of the Save Act and Chuck Schumer. The Democrats, 390 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: they said they supported voter ID, but then they immediately 391 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: blocked you guys and your amendment to require it. Welcome 392 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: to Democrats. You know, do as I say, not as 393 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: I do. 394 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. So I'm an original sponsor of 395 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: the Save America Act. I've been helping lead the fight 396 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 2: to pass the Save America Act. We should be passing it. 397 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: The only way to get it passed is we need 398 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: to stand together and force the Democrats to do a 399 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: talking filibuster. Unfortunately, to do that, we need fifty Republicans 400 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: who are willing to stand and fight and be all 401 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: unified together. We don't have those votes right now. I 402 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: have been making that case for weeks on ends to 403 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: my colleagues. We're not there yet, and it is frustrating. 404 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: By the way, we did a podcast two weeks ago 405 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: we broke down the details of exactly how a talking 406 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: filibuster would work, how using the existing Senate rules to 407 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: force the Democrats to do like Jimmy Stewart and mister 408 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: Smith goes to Washington to force the Democrats to do 409 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: like I did when I filibustered for twenty one hours 410 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 2: talking continuously against Obamacare in twenty thirteen. We have not 411 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: done that yet, but I will say so. The Save 412 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: America Act has two major elements. Number one, it requires 413 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: people to show proof of American citizenship to register to vote, 414 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: a basic common sense step. Number two, it requires photo 415 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: ID to vote. Well, the Democrats defense that they really 416 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: hate provision one showing proof of citizenship, and they argued, oh, 417 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: some people can't do it. Some people can't do it. 418 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: It's nonsense, but that's what they argued. And in the 419 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: course of it, a whole lot of them said, we're 420 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: okay with photo ID, which at some level is not 421 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: surprising because photo ID. Eighty three percent of Americans support 422 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 2: photo ID to vote, eighty one percent of Hispanic support 423 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: photo ID to vote, eighty one percent of Democrats support 424 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: photo ID to vote, seventy five percent of African American 425 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: support photo ID to vote. It's overwhelmingly popular. So the 426 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: Democrats all said they supported it, but they didn't like 427 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: the other elements of the Save Act. So one thing 428 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: we did this week is we said, okay, we'll call 429 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: your bluff and we put up just a very simple 430 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: bill that required photo ID to vote. It's what they 431 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: all said they supported. Now let me tell you. I 432 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: want to read you some quotes from Democrats. Chuck Schumer quote, 433 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: Democrats support voter ID. Here's Chuck Schumer again. Our objection 434 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: as Democrats is not to photo ID. Here's Dick Durbin quote. 435 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: They say it's show of voter ID. I'm not opposed 436 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: to that. They ask you for an ID at the airport, 437 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: don't they? That's reasonable? 438 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: All right? 439 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: Here's Caitlin Collins at CNN asking Cory Booker quote, if 440 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: it was just a clean vote on voter ID specifically, 441 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: is that something you would support? Corey Booker? Yes. And 442 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: New Jersey has voter ID laws. I've got to show 443 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 2: my driver's license. Chris Coons, Democrat from Delaware quote who 444 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: could be against requiring ID to vote? Raphael Warnock, Democrat 445 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: from Georgia quote, I think you should have to prove 446 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 2: that you are who you say you are before you vote. 447 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: I support voter ID. Alyssa Slotkin from Michigan quote, voter ID, 448 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: which hopefully all America are an agreement about Kirsten Gillibrand 449 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: from New York quote. The ideas that we all have 450 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: in our wallets should be good enough to vote. They 451 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: always have been. Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat from Rhode Island quote, well, 452 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: the voter ID part is probably fine. We have voter 453 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: ID here in Rhode Island. Reuben Gayego, Democrat from Arizona quote, 454 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: if people want to adopt the Arizona Way, which is 455 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: strict voter ID, I think that would be fine. Mark 456 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: Warner and Tim Kaine, both Democrats from Virginia. Quote, we 457 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: support reasonable steps that help maintain trusts in our elections, 458 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: including the voter identification requirements we already have in Virginia. 459 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: Jack Read, Democrat from Rhode Island quote. If the polls 460 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: simply required every American to show an IDA at the polls, 461 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: then I would not be ringing such a loud alarm. 462 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: So that's what they all said. So Republicans said, a right, 463 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: we'll call your bluff. And when we put a vote 464 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: on just photo ID to vote, you know what have to. 465 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: What happened? I know the answer, but it makes me laugh. 466 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 2: Every single Democrat voted no, all of them every one 467 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: of them. Everyone that I just read those quotes from 468 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: all the ones that say, oh, I support voter ID, 469 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: they all voted no. I mean, it is a flat 470 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: up It's just a flat up lie. And part of 471 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: the reason, part of the reason that they do that 472 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: is because they know the media won't call them on it. 473 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: That they know that they can lie over and over 474 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: and over again and there will be no consequences. Now, 475 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: I will say an exception to that. So CBS News, 476 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: David Ellison bought CBS News and so now suddenly CBS 477 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: News is owned by someone who says he has a 478 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: commitment to making it balanced and not having it be 479 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: a partisan left wing network. I'll tell you what. CBS 480 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: News tweeted out today quote. An amendment that would require 481 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: voters to show photo identification to cast a ballot failed 482 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: to advance in the Senate on Thursday, despite Senate Minority 483 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: Leader Chuck Schumer saying last week that Democrats were not 484 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: opposed to such an requirement. So CBS actually reported straight out. 485 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: I actually had some fun with that and tweeted and said, 486 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: you mean, Schumer lied, and there's a reason you'll have 487 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: the right. There's a reason you have a Pinocchio emoji 488 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: and I used it. But part of the reason they're 489 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: willing to lie so brazenly is what CBS did. There 490 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: is the exception CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, they don't call 491 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: him to account, The Washington Post, the New York Times, 492 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: they don't call him to account. And so the Democrats 493 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: all lie. And then when you say, oh, you support that, 494 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: do you all right, well, do you want to vote 495 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: for it? They all say no. They get almost no 496 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: accountability for doing so. 497 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: It really is incredible. And look, I do think this 498 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: is going to be very interesting going into the midterms, 499 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: and I want to get your reaction to this because 500 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: I actually think the American people are paying attention. They 501 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: were very frustrated by the Democrats constantly taking their life 502 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: harder on these basic type issues, just like the airport. 503 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: I think those are things when you combine these issues together, 504 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the Save Act, which is overwhelming American support, like it's 505 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: probably one of the most bipartisan things you're polling right 506 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: now in this country, if not the very top one, 507 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: and yet you have this type of divide. I actually 508 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: think this plays in the hands of Republicans if we 509 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: do it. The right way your thoughts. 510 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think that's right, and I think calling 511 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: out Democrats for hypocrisy and lying and for just really 512 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: aggressive pardon partisanship. 513 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: You know. 514 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: I will say there are people who say both sides 515 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: are too extreme, and I got to say that that 516 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: feels very reasonable and even handed. Gosh, one side's too extreme, 517 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: so is the other. I just don't think it's accurate. 518 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: If you look at where we are now, the policy 519 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: positions of the Democratic Party objectively are extreme. On immigration, 520 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: they're an open border party. They just refuse to fund 521 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: even a penny for immigration enforcement, and they slashed funding 522 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: for customs and border patrol. They are an open border 523 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: party that opposes arresting murderers and gang bangers and child rapists. 524 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: On issues of sexuality, every Democrat, all of them, support 525 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: boys and girls sports men and women's sports. They support 526 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: sterilization and surgical mutilation of kids. Those are extreme positions. 527 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: Those are on the ten side of ninety ten issues. 528 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: They support abolishing the police. They all just voted to 529 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: effectively abolish the police. And the immigration context, what are 530 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: the Democrats? What are the Republicans supporting? Policy wise? The 531 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: Republicans are supporting common sense principles, low taxes, low regulations, 532 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: lots and lots of jobs, small businesses doing well, securing 533 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: the border, supporting law enforcement, protecting our families. Those are 534 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: common sense position. Look, the Democrats on foreign policy are 535 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: embrace Hamas. There is a real pro Hamas contingent in 536 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party that is objectively extreme, and so I 537 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: think saying the two sides are kind of both too extreme, 538 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that describes where the policy debate is now. 539 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: I will concede this. On the rhetoric, there is a 540 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: fair point to be made that both sides can use 541 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: overheated rhetoric. I think the Democrats do so routinely when 542 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: they call Ice, for example, Nazis, and and they call 543 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: for dosing and going after the families of law enforcement officers. 544 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's grotesque. But there are Republicans 545 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: who use overheated rhetoric as well, and I wish they 546 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: did not. You know, I get that question a lot 547 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: as I travel around Texas and around the country, and 548 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: I say, listen, I don't have the ability to change 549 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: the language other people use. I can control what I say. 550 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: You know, Ben, you and me, and verdict, I try 551 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: not to demonize people personally, but I do try to 552 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: talk about policies and say it is an objectively unreasonable 553 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: policy to support open borders and to just take away 554 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: the paychecks of law enforcement officers forever, and that is 555 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: the position of the Democrat Party. I think that's the 556 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: way we ought to have political discussions on substance and merits, 557 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: rather than making it personal. 558 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 559 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to dealt 560 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 561 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 562 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: day when you listen Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to have 563 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 564 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.