WEBVTT - Syphilis: The Great Imitator

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, you welcome to Stuff to Blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. My name is Robert lamp and Julie Douglas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd like you to take a moment to just

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<v Speaker 1>try and create. Try and imagine the most destructive disease possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine a disease that ravages the body. That ravage is

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<v Speaker 1>just about every tissue, every every part of the human

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<v Speaker 1>form that it takes down. The sex organs that that

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<v Speaker 1>takes apart the face, takes apart your identity, and in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases ultimately robbed you of your mind as well

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<v Speaker 1>before killing you outright. Yeah, you mentioned sex organs. So

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<v Speaker 1>also imagine that there's a moral to mention to this

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<v Speaker 1>disease that would give you the sort of outward appearance

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<v Speaker 1>that perhaps you had been engaging in conduct unbecoming to you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, in all of this, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a very real ill this and that is syphilis. We're

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to devote two whole episodes to syphilis here.

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<v Speaker 1>This first episode, Syphilis the Great Imitator, is mainly going

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on the organism that causes syphilis and how

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<v Speaker 1>syphilis manifests itself in the human body. In the second episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to get into the cultural and historical

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<v Speaker 1>impact of syphilis, because that that in its own right

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<v Speaker 1>is an enormous topic of interest, because for four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half centuries, syphilis ravages the Old World, ravages Western culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's really kind of difficult to overstate the

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<v Speaker 1>the role that syphilis played in coloring Western civilization during

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<v Speaker 1>that time. Yes, don't run away, because this is alf

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting that the bacterium itself is fascinating, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course the cultural implications. Now we have our first

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<v Speaker 1>recorded epidemic of venereal syphilis occurring in Europe, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the close of the fifteenth century you have chaos just

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<v Speaker 1>raining in Naples, Italy, where there's a huge outbreak. In fact, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Innocent the eighth asked French King Charles the Eighth

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<v Speaker 1>to invade the city with troops to try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it under control. But what do you think happens? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as we would as we it would eventually learned, Sending

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<v Speaker 1>troops then to deal with syphilis not the best strategy

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<v Speaker 1>because because that they're going to end up catching the syphilis.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you draw the troops out, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the syphilis elsewhere exactly. And the problem here

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<v Speaker 1>is that syphlis has being known as the great imitator

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<v Speaker 1>because it has all these different symptoms that at the

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<v Speaker 1>outset might be mistaken for other illnesses. So imagine this

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<v Speaker 1>time period in which this was happening and people not

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<v Speaker 1>quite knowing what they were dealing with. Yeah, to quote

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<v Speaker 1>Sir William Afler, he says, no syphilis in all its

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<v Speaker 1>manifestations and relations and all other things clinical will be

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<v Speaker 1>added to you. There is no organ in the body,

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<v Speaker 1>nor any tissue in the organs, which syphilis does not invade.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is therefore manifestly difficult to speak, at least

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<v Speaker 1>at all concisely of the pathology of the disease, just

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<v Speaker 1>as as it is almost impossible to describe its clinical

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<v Speaker 1>symptoms without mentioning almost every symptom of every known disease.

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<v Speaker 1>And these symptoms are not going to be the same

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<v Speaker 1>from one person to the next. So you have a

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<v Speaker 1>disease that is that is seemingly very stealthy, very nefarious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh, it's it's changing its shape, it's changing its strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going dormant it's popping back up and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time everyone's trying to understand what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>how to prevent it. Uh. Again, there there's there's this

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<v Speaker 1>this whole seemingly moral side to it because it's spread

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<v Speaker 1>through sexual contact, and it ends up spreading across every

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<v Speaker 1>social level in society. Uh. It's it's a disease that

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<v Speaker 1>ravages the poor, it ravages the rich. It's hitting the royalty,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hitting the clergy, it's hitting anyone who's engaging in

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<v Speaker 1>sexual contact, which is everyone, right, And in fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so prevalent that you get a couple of references

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<v Speaker 1>to it in Shakespeare's works like pox of your houses

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<v Speaker 1>and Romeo a nguliet, which is now a curse like

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<v Speaker 1>a pox on you. It's but the problem with this is

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<v Speaker 1>is that we tend to think of it as this

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<v Speaker 1>antiquated illness, right, it is not. In fact, The Centers

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<v Speaker 1>for Disease Control estimate that annually more than fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>people in the US get new syphilis infections, and during

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and twelve there were more than forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>thousand reported new cases of syphilis, compared to forty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>estimated new diagnosis of HIV. So it is still present

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<v Speaker 1>and it is most common in people between the ages

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty and twenty nine years of age, which has

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<v Speaker 1>led it to be called Cupid's disease by the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, one other way we should mention that

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<v Speaker 1>you can transfer syphilis is through an unborn child, and

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<v Speaker 1>so congenital syphilis, which will we'll talk about a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more later. That's also a huge problem because when

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<v Speaker 1>the syphilis manifests in a newborn child, uh, the the

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<v Speaker 1>the effects are kind it can be pretty disastrous. So

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<v Speaker 1>once against syphilis, even though it is a tremendous interest

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<v Speaker 1>from a historical standpoint, it is not a purely historical disease.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we just don't put as much emphasis on it

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<v Speaker 1>these days in terms of infectious diseases because it can

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<v Speaker 1>be controlled by penicillin, and we'll talk about that later. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they can be wiped out by penicillin and uh uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that has been a huge advantage in the

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<v Speaker 1>war against cephalis for sure, But still it is it

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<v Speaker 1>is an adversary that that carries on even in the

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<v Speaker 1>advent of what would seem a magic bullet. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this dastardly organism also known as Treponema palladum. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>such Treponema palladum, which is a treponemal disease. There are

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<v Speaker 1>other treponemal diseases which will get into these and co

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<v Speaker 1>include a visual penta and yaws. None of these, of

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<v Speaker 1>course are sexually transmitted, but they are essentially skin ailments

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<v Speaker 1>that are that are transferred by skin to skin contact. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so they are related to Treponema palladum, but they themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, are not spread through sexual contact. And

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<v Speaker 1>I should add to to be clear if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get really particular. Syphilis is caused by a subspecies

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<v Speaker 1>of Treponema palladum, essentially Treponema paladum palatum. But for all

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<v Speaker 1>intents and references going forward, Treponema palladum ke palatum syphilis.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll know what we're talking about. Yeah, Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a spial shaped bacterium also known as a sparrow keet

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<v Speaker 1>and that we're talking about slender, spirally undulating bacteria here

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<v Speaker 1>and again. It is most often spread by sexual contact,

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<v Speaker 1>and the disease occurs in three primary stages. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about that. And uh, now, these these later stages

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<v Speaker 1>that will discuss are not so common in our modern era, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the later stages obviously deal with a case of

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<v Speaker 1>syphilis that has not been treated, not been cured with

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<v Speaker 1>the penicillin. All right, Well, let's let's start with transmission.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd like to sort of encourage you to think

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this with an invasion. Sorry, all right, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about how syphilis is transmitted. And I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>you to think about this, uh in terms of an invasion,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what it is. And we're dealing with an

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<v Speaker 1>invasion of these spiral keets into the human body. And

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<v Speaker 1>this invasion takes place in a few different phases. So

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<v Speaker 1>syphilis can be spread again by through the through the birthless,

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<v Speaker 1>sent by kissing, close contact, um, transfusion of fresh human blood.

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<v Speaker 1>But the main ways that it's that it's spreading us

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<v Speaker 1>through sexual contact. We're talking vaginal sex, oral sex, anal

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<v Speaker 1>sex um. All of these will serve as as a

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<v Speaker 1>as an entry point. Now, the way that the spiro

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<v Speaker 1>keets into the body they enter through the skin, and

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<v Speaker 1>when intimate contact of this nature is made that is

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<v Speaker 1>when when the spire key enters the body, enters through

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<v Speaker 1>the skin and there it will hang out until it

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<v Speaker 1>makes itself known in the form of a syphilitic sore,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as a shanker. And shankers occur mainly on

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<v Speaker 1>external genitals that jina anus or in the rectum. They

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<v Speaker 1>can also occur on the lips and in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is when you see most of the transmission

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<v Speaker 1>occur among people when these sores are present. Right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is primary syphilis. This is first stage syphilis. And think

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<v Speaker 1>of this in terms of the enemy initially getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the fortress. This is the shanker is literally the entry

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<v Speaker 1>point for the for the spiro keets. And it may

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<v Speaker 1>be a small number of spire keets and maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>larger number of spire keets, but this is where they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting in. This is the whole in the fortress wall. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And these shankers can appear usually around twenty one days

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<v Speaker 1>after infection, but sometimes as little as ten or even

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<v Speaker 1>ninety days. Yeah, and it may hang around for three

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<v Speaker 1>to six weeks. And here's the thing. They can if

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<v Speaker 1>you look up pictures online and sure, you should definitely

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<v Speaker 1>go into a Google image search for for what these

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<v Speaker 1>look like? Your loins, your your loins, but they may

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<v Speaker 1>look pretty intense at times, but these are painless, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're easily confused with any number of small skin

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<v Speaker 1>ailments that may pop up in even a healthy person's life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the stuff like ingrown hairs or or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or various other bumps. So then would be caused by

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<v Speaker 1>by any number of other ailments. Again, it's a great

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<v Speaker 1>imitator right now. If you do not get treated at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, well then it gets into secondary syphilis. And

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<v Speaker 1>during this stage that's when you see those skin rashes,

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<v Speaker 1>swords in your mouth. And so that's the primary stage

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<v Speaker 1>and the and it's key to note here that the

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<v Speaker 1>shanker disappears advantishes. So if you were concerned about it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really, I wonder what this painless, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ugly spot on my genitals is, well, then it goes away.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the day dangers that we see

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again with syphilis is that the the

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<v Speaker 1>infection seems to go away, the illness may seem to

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<v Speaker 1>go away, but as we're about to learn, it does not.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, imagine yourself in you know, the fifteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have this and then that disappears and think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is fine. I got upset over and over nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you didn't even notice. It's it's entirely likely

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<v Speaker 1>that one wouldn't even notice that the shanker had popped up. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely you wouldn't have been treated at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in time because there wasn't anything necessarily to treat you

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<v Speaker 1>with that was really effective. So it would then develop

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<v Speaker 1>into a secondary stage called secondary syphilis, in which you

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<v Speaker 1>would have skin rashes and or source in your mouth

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<v Speaker 1>vagina and anus, often called mucus membrane lesions. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you may also see other varying symptoms such as fever, lethargy, headaches,

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<v Speaker 1>general body aches, hair loss. And this is the point

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<v Speaker 1>of the invasion in which the enemy, the me made

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<v Speaker 1>it in in the primary stage and in secondary syphilis,

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy has spread throughout the castle, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>and is making itself known throughout the invaded city, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the human body, right, And you are highly contagious

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. In fact, gentle, those sours caused by

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<v Speaker 1>syphilis make it a lot easier to transmit and acquire

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<v Speaker 1>things like HIV infection. Right, so you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>secondary infection at this point. In fact, there is an

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<v Speaker 1>estimated two to fivefold increased risk of acquiring HIV if

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<v Speaker 1>you're exposed to infection when syphilis is present in these

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<v Speaker 1>first and second stages. Now, at this point, after secondary syphilis,

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<v Speaker 1>and here again we see that the secondary syphilis, this

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<v Speaker 1>outbreak cut period, this goes away as well, which again

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<v Speaker 1>could lead someone to say, well, that was horrible, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they may not even realize that it was connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the primaries outbreak, And they might, but they can

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<v Speaker 1>easily imagine, well, I'm done with this now, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's done. It's finished. Whatever illness was affecting me,

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<v Speaker 1>the pox has left me, right, Yeah, But little do

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<v Speaker 1>they know that this is just the latent stage of

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<v Speaker 1>this and it's just waiting around. It might not even

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<v Speaker 1>reveal itself for decades. Yeah. So imagine the enemy has

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<v Speaker 1>invaded the castle, They've made a lot of mischief, and

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly they seem to be gone, But they're not gone.

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<v Speaker 1>There in the basement. They're in the basement, they're in

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<v Speaker 1>there in every house in the city. There. They've literally

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<v Speaker 1>become a part of the city. They're essentially a sleeper cell. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what latent syphilis is. Tertiary syphilis, the

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<v Speaker 1>stage really is quite gruesome because it kind of takes

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the body down to the studs are more so,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, it's like you say, the sleeper cells

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<v Speaker 1>in the basements. They become stronger and they come roaring

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<v Speaker 1>back into the body and they cause a lot of havoc. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, we see this over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>with with syphilis, but it has such metaphorical power. Is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons that I think we're aside from

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<v Speaker 1>its uh, its power to harm and his figuous uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we're drawn to it so is you do

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<v Speaker 1>see this idea of the the infection. It flared up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it flared up again, and then it comes back

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<v Speaker 1>in only fift The case is a much stronger form

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<v Speaker 1>in the tertiary stage, far more debilitating, far more destructive

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately lethal stage of the illness. Yeah. In this

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<v Speaker 1>late stage you could have sometimes that include difficulty coordinating

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<v Speaker 1>your muscle movements, paralysis, not being able to move some

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<v Speaker 1>of your body, uh, numbness, blindness, and dementia. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in the late late stages, the disease begins to ravage

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<v Speaker 1>your internal organs, and that is what can result in death.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is one of the remarkable things about this

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<v Speaker 1>is that this stage can occur ten to twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>after primary syphilis. So this is it's again the metaphoralthorical

0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.400
<v Speaker 1>power of this. It's like the the sins of the

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<v Speaker 1>young individual coming back to destroy the older individual. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um, it's it's gruesome stuff, and and and and

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<v Speaker 1>against that one may not even remember that first outbreak

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<v Speaker 1>all that clearly, and suddenly all these changes are happening

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<v Speaker 1>to their body and ultimately to their mind. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have largely up until this point treated this in

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<v Speaker 1>a very clinical fashion and not really talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>sights and the sounds and the spells of what this

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, which you will do more in the next podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But just know that at this point, um, this this

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<v Speaker 1>this is really adding injury to insult because you might

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<v Speaker 1>have lost your nose, you know, and recovered from that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and all of a sudden you think you're out

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<v Speaker 1>in the clear, and boom it comes back in in

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<v Speaker 1>such a corrosive manner that you find out that this

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<v Speaker 1>is really the death knell. Yeah, corrosive is an excellent

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<v Speaker 1>term to use, because you see the you see a

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<v Speaker 1>loss of teeth, you see the destruction of the palette

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<v Speaker 1>in the mouth. You see you see the the the

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<v Speaker 1>collapse of the nose into what is known as saddle nose,

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<v Speaker 1>where basically the nose collapses and around the bridge and

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<v Speaker 1>becomes kind of upturned and smaller looking uh, and then

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<v Speaker 1>may eventually um appear to rot entirely. Uh. Saddle nose

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<v Speaker 1>is also caused can also be caused by just damage

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<v Speaker 1>to the nose. You see boxers that suffer from saddle nose.

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<v Speaker 1>Also extreme cocaine addiction can somehow sometimes have that effect

0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.640
<v Speaker 1>on individuals. But Yeah, you're seeing it attack your facial features.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing it attack uh, your genitals in a very

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<v Speaker 1>destructive manner, and then also getting into your organs. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>To back to the quote that I read at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the podcast by uh Dr William Ostler, it

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<v Speaker 1>it the spiral keets of syphilis attack every part of

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<v Speaker 1>the body like nothing is off limits. To go back

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<v Speaker 1>to that castle analogy from from earlier, the invader has

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the city for ten to twenty years and

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<v Speaker 1>now in potentially every household in the city has decided

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<v Speaker 1>to just burn everything to the ground. Right now. The

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<v Speaker 1>other part of this is that simple is as we

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<v Speaker 1>have mentioned before, can be transmitted through the placenta. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does this mean. It means that during that time

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<v Speaker 1>period from the fifteenth century to the twentieth century, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of children born with syphilis also called

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<v Speaker 1>congenital syphilis. And even to this day, corner of the

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<v Speaker 1>World Health Organization, you have a million children born annually

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<v Speaker 1>with congenital syphilis. Yeah, and it's very serious stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half of all children infected with syphilis, whether in

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<v Speaker 1>the womb, guy shortly before or after birth, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>this can also result in still borns um And despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that syphilis can be cure with antbiotics if

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<v Speaker 1>caught early, there are arising rates among pregnant women in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and that of course has increased the

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<v Speaker 1>number of infants born with this. Now, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>complications include blindness, deafness, deformity of the face, and nervous

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<v Speaker 1>system problems. Now, why does syphilis hang out in the

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<v Speaker 1>body so long, you might be wondering, Well, Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe due in part to palladum having a slow

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<v Speaker 1>dividing time of thirty to thirty three hours, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>likely that P. Pallatum undergoes an even slower rate of

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<v Speaker 1>division during the latent stages of the disease. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's it's a long living creature from a bacterial standpoint, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a bacterial croc pot Yeah. Alright, um, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the current state of treatment and infections. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>but I say current, I have to mention that there

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of old timey ways in which they

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<v Speaker 1>were thought to be cures for it, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is mercury. Yes, inhaling mercury vapor. In fact, there is

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<v Speaker 1>This was so common for hundreds of years that a

0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.960
<v Speaker 1>little phrase came out of that, A night with venus,

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime with mercury. Yeah. So you would find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>going regularly for essentially skin treatments, taking these these mercury

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<v Speaker 1>steam bats, and and enduring the harmful effects of that

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<v Speaker 1>of that mercury relation on top of the ravages of syphilis.

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<v Speaker 1>It did kill the sparrow key, but yes, it also

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>poisoned the patient. Yeah. Well, there are a few different

0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.879
<v Speaker 1>factors involved. There because on one hand, uh, their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their arguments to what effect the mercury had in killing

0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the sparrow keets, But then the sparrow keets are so

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<v Speaker 1>entrenched in the body. What can you do. Also, again,

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<v Speaker 1>think about that that primary and secondary stage, the flare

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<v Speaker 1>ups and the disappearance. You have individuals that could go

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<v Speaker 1>into it to be treated for for their symptoms of syphilis,

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<v Speaker 1>and lo and behold, the symptoms vanish with the treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>not because of the treatment, just because of the timing

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<v Speaker 1>of the treatment. And ultimately, again you're dealing with four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half centuries in which there is no cure

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<v Speaker 1>for this illness. So if someone's trying to sell you

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<v Speaker 1>an illness, you're going to try and buy it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just how it goes. And you know, this disease is

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<v Speaker 1>ravaging my body. If you tell me that mercury might help,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm probably going to try mercury. Sure, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try anything at that point, including malaria, which is apparently

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<v Speaker 1>something that was discovered in nineteen seventeen by Julius Wagner

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<v Speaker 1>Jarig to help halt some of the symptoms of syphilis,

0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:14.440
<v Speaker 1>particularly neurosyphilis that advanced stage in which you get psychosis

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and you get paralysis. And they found that if you

0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>induced a malarial fever in patients, well, that could help

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<v Speaker 1>with the actual infection. You also saw the use of

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<v Speaker 1>so called ciphilization treatments. This was where you would essentially

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<v Speaker 1>try to inoculate the patient in the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>you would treat them for smallpox. Um, this didn't work, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But submitting yourself to the disease right right, Yeah, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to to build up you know, bodily immunity doesn't work. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've read some mixed reports of how experiments on

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits uh in the modern age have potentially shown some

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<v Speaker 1>possibility there. But you get into a situation where it

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<v Speaker 1>would take so many applications of syphilis and and we're

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about a rabbit and it hasn't been studied enough

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and you would certainly could not study it in humans.

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, and then also want to study it

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<v Speaker 1>when we have penicillin that can wipe it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's diagnosed by testing fluid from a syphilis sore

0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and looking for the sparrow keet via dark field microscopy.

0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>The name of that blood test by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>the Wasserman blood test uh and it was developed in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o six just to get everything in the timeline

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<v Speaker 1>squared away there. So, as we had mentioned, symphilis can

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<v Speaker 1>be treated with antibotics, So we're talking about penicillin. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about G benzotine, doxycycline, or tetracycline, and that's for

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>patients who are usually allergic to penicillin. In the length

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<v Speaker 1>of treatment depends on the extent of the infection and

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<v Speaker 1>factors such as the person's overall health. So let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't get to it right away and you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get to the second or have a secondary phase

0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>of it, you would still have to deal with any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ill effects that you might have sustained at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. All right, So at this point you might

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<v Speaker 1>be wondering, what can I do two decrease my chances

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>of catching syphilis. Well, according to the CDC, they're basically

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>two things you can do because there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine for syphilis. We have a cure for syphilis. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again you get into the problem of detecting it,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing to report it, etcetera um. And then even once

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<v Speaker 1>you've treated syphilis. There's no undoing any damage that it's done. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So number one, be a part of a long term,

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<v Speaker 1>mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who has been tested

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and it has negative STD test results. And number two

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<v Speaker 1>use latex condoms the right way every time you have sex.

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Condoms prevent transmission of syphilis by preventing contact with a sore.

0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes sores occurring areas not covered by a condom. However,

0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>in contact with these sores can still transmit syphilis because

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<v Speaker 1>again it's about it. It's it come goes through the skin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not something that travels through the orifice. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>might surprise you, but the people who really need to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this most besides year olds, are senior citizens. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and this surprised me. This was some some some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>material that you discovered. Yeah, we actually a while ago

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<v Speaker 1>we had someone from the CDC come and talk to

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<v Speaker 1>us about STDs. Not because our our group needed a

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<v Speaker 1>talking to because the outbreak at work right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>because every once in a while someone will come and

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of give us information and and um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always very interesting. And he had mentioned then that retirement communities,

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<v Speaker 1>assisted living facilities these are all hotbeds for STDs, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is in part because they are not practicing safe sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you have to keep in mind that that

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, perhaps many of of the community

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>members were in long term relationships, but now they probably

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<v Speaker 1>have lost a partner. And it's a very social community.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of sex going on within your citizens

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<v Speaker 1>in these communities, and numbers from the Centers for Disease

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<v Speaker 1>Control and Prevention show a rapid increase among older people.

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<v Speaker 1>Were talking about between two thousand and seven and two

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eleven, clamydia infections among Americans sixty five and

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>over increased by and syphilis by fifty two percent. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had I had no idea. I end up

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<v Speaker 1>struggling to try and piece together, like a timeline for

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>a hypothetical UH assisted living resident, how they acquire the

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>syphilis and then how and then how they end up

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 1>passing it on to multiple people in the facility. They

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>just need to get the old posters, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen forties and put them back up, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about that in the next episode. But there

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<v Speaker 1>were definite campaigns, uh, you know, trying to get some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of awareness going with Americans about s TDS. Indeed, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into all of that in our next episode

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>titled Syphilis through the Ages. Alright, so there you have it, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>A little introduction there to syphilis, to treponema palatum, to

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<v Speaker 1>the spiral keet, and with what it does to the

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>body as it invades and then sets sets up a

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>residence and ultimately in some cases tears the body down.

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<v Speaker 1>In our next episode we will get into all the

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>cultural aspects of this, well maybe not all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of the high points for sure, the history

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.479
<v Speaker 1>of the disease in Western culture. UM, all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So do check that episode out. UM if you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>this one. UH. In the meantime, be sure to head

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<v Speaker 1>up stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. That is

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<v Speaker 1>where you will find all of our podcast episodes are

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.720
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<v Speaker 1>media accounts and UH and when you do check out

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast page for this episode. In the next cephilis episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll include some links to some cool resources about syphilis,

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of the illness, as well as links

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<v Speaker 1>to various blog posts that we put together that deal

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 1>with the topics. So you can see some of these

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>posters that we're talking about, you can see some images

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of tertiary syphilis, etcetera. And after you've visit such to

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<v Speaker 1>blow your Mind dot com and percolate on all of this,

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.199
<v Speaker 1>no doubt you'll have some thoughts that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>share with us, and you can do that. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention if you have personal accounts of

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<v Speaker 1>STDs that you want to share, be assured that we

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<v Speaker 1>will not share your name, that we will keep this confidential,

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