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Speaker 3: Oh, we pinpointed a day.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make us work on Christmas Eve. I
Speaker 2: think that we should give to this audience a special
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Speaker 4: I'm starting to feel twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, you want to write that down.
Speaker 4: I'm putting it in my calendar.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: My wife goes, when are you retiring? I go Christmas
Speaker 2: Eve twenty twenty seven. It is a Friday, Yes, it
Speaker 2: is a full meet Friday. Yeah, you gotta go Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2: And then we say goodbye.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 4: Plan accordingly, we go off into that long Christmas vacation
Speaker 4: in the sky. Yeah, in the sky. This show goes
Speaker 4: off into that long Christmas vacation in the sky.
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do on like January second, when
Speaker 3: all the bowl games are going on in the NFL weekend?
Speaker 5: You have no one to talk to about it?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna sit and drink, smoke a cigar, not
Speaker 2: do anything, not have to answer any of Fritzy's emails.
Speaker 5: Yes, Tim, You're not gonna go to the super.
Speaker 7: Bowl site like a month later, walk around the prevention
Speaker 7: center looking for credential.
Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, not going to do that. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to take a victory tour. I mean I'm taking a
Speaker 2: victory tour. I wouldn't go to the super Bowl and
Speaker 2: go hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Commissioner Goodell, would you
Speaker 2: like to come on right radio?
Speaker 5: All that's right? Oh that's right. You don't have a
Speaker 5: radio show anymore?
Speaker 3: Do you d just sit at a table at radio
Speaker 3: row waving to people and they sign your book?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, I'm gonna feel like Carlton from The Fresh
Speaker 7: Prince what's the fresh Prince is over?
Speaker 8: Hey, weren't you on that show once? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 8: What are you doing these days? I mean, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm just you know, I'm dancing, I'm working, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I go to golf tournaments, you know, and I get
Speaker 2: to play in celebrity golf turn Hey he's Julian.
Speaker 8: White from Family Matters. Hey, how are you man? I'm well, oh.
Speaker 4: Man, I don't say that line anymore.
Speaker 5: I say it, say it, didn't I do that. I
Speaker 5: don't do that anymore.
Speaker 8: Character measure your hands. They pay me to do that move.
Speaker 4: I don't measure my hands anymore.
Speaker 6: It shows over, Get over it.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was a show, all right.
Speaker 2: I went. I went to dinner last time. My wife
Speaker 2: was suddenly worried about your guy's futures. She's like, well,
Speaker 2: what are they gonna do? And I go, I don't know.
Speaker 2: She goes, well, are you gonna help them? I go, honey,
Speaker 2: I have it's up to them now, like they're grown men.
Speaker 2: Uh So, she said, well, who makes Who are you
Speaker 2: most concerned about?
Speaker 5: I said most concerned about?
Speaker 2: I said, I guess Fritzi I would be concerned about
Speaker 2: because I don't know if you know you're gonna be
Speaker 2: at home and you're gonna be booking imaginary gas well.
Speaker 8: I like structure and routine. After all these years, it's
Speaker 8: gonna be wed.
Speaker 2: You're gonna book imaginary guests for an imaginary show.
Speaker 9: Tot.
Speaker 8: Who are you talking to her?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 8: Can you do the ten eleven zoomer phone? Or who
Speaker 8: are you talking to?
Speaker 5: There's nobody on the other line. Todd staring at the wall. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: it's Rex Ryan. I'm talking to Rex Ryan.
Speaker 8: What about Friday? Who are you talking to?
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, whose wife?
Speaker 6: Do you feel the worst for?
Speaker 5: Tons?
Speaker 2: That's fair to that question's absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you my wife's not looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: She's heard all my stories, all my bits. I think
Speaker 3: the idea of me retiring, and she's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: go find something to do anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was at dinner last night. By the way.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but the more things on
Speaker 2: the menu make me nervous about the quality of the food.
Speaker 2: If you go into a restaurant and they've got five
Speaker 2: things on that menu, I go, yes, they know what
Speaker 2: they're doing.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: This isn't cheesecake factory. When you go into a cheesecake factory.
Speaker 2: I think I've read books that have less pages in
Speaker 2: it and you're going, oh my god, there's everything here.
Speaker 5: I like it when there's five six items that's it.
Speaker 5: Do you remember what was on the menu? Everything? Oh
Speaker 5: last night was and everything it had Italian that had
Speaker 5: a tuna and had had breakfast.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh my god. Now my brother in
Speaker 2: law picked it and I was like, oh okay. And
Speaker 2: he had never been there, but he's like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is halfway between our houses. And I go in there
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is And then they had a
Speaker 2: special menu to go along with the regular menu, and
Speaker 2: I just thought, man, I missed those days where there's
Speaker 2: there's really no choice. It's just this is what we do.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of burgers, some wings, maybe a French
Speaker 2: onion soup and a salad, but we don't recommend it,
Speaker 2: and then that's it and then you're good to go.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, restaurants, I'm not fond of the ones that
Speaker 3: are hybrids of two different food groups. Like there's a
Speaker 3: place near me called Poncho El Malley's. It's Mexican food
Speaker 3: and Irish food. I'm not kidding, And there's like they
Speaker 3: have those all over the country where it's like a
Speaker 3: mix of two different genres of food. Yeah, just pick
Speaker 3: a direction you want to go do Irish food, great,
Speaker 3: pick a lane here, Helmut McCoy's it's German Irish.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. Already in progress, as you can tell.
Speaker 2: Our good buddy Chris Simms from Football Night in America
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Speaker 5: Coming up.
Speaker 2: We will replace some of the comments that David Tepper had,
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers owner. I'm still puzzled by some of
Speaker 2: the things he said at his press conference yesterday. But
Speaker 2: he's a patient man, so I should be patient with
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Speaker 2: official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. College football
Speaker 2: rankings came out. Michigan, of course, is up there with
Speaker 2: Georgia and then Washington, Florida State, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Alabama.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this coming up a little bit more
Speaker 2: extensively in the second hour, that we're rooting for chaos.
Speaker 2: We always root for chaos. We rarely get chaos. By
Speaker 2: the way, Michigan is playing Iowa for the Big Ten Championship.
Speaker 2: I always say, you can't say no chance but a
Speaker 2: small chance. Right, no chance, but there's a small chance.
Speaker 2: The betting line the first of all the over unders
Speaker 2: thirty five and a half. Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 2: i was scored thirty five points total this year, but
Speaker 2: it's thirty five and a half. Here's Iowa's team total.
Speaker 2: What's Iowa's over under point total first half against Michigan
Speaker 2: Big Ten Title game? According to DraftKings.
Speaker 3: Iowa first half scoring Yes, I'll let you go first,
Speaker 3: Pauli three points, Todd.
Speaker 5: Five and a half, Seaton two and a half, Marvin
Speaker 5: six and a half, zero point five. What over under
Speaker 5: Isola half point? It could even give you two and
Speaker 5: a half over.
Speaker 2: Under second half Iowa against Michigan Big ten Title game.
Speaker 5: Marvin four and a half, Paulie two and a half,
Speaker 5: Todd five and a half, Seaton six and a half,
Speaker 5: zero point five game half a point insulting. So if
Speaker 5: there's in thirty five.
Speaker 2: And a half, I'm guessing Michigan's probably gonna get thirty
Speaker 2: four thirty three points something like that. But there is
Speaker 2: you can't say no chance, right, small chance? Iowa against
Speaker 2: Michigan odds to win the college football playoff? Who do
Speaker 2: you think is the favorite according to DraftKings this morning?
Speaker 5: Marvin Georgia, Paulie Michigan.
Speaker 2: Michigan is true, that is correct, then it's Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, Texas, Washington,
Speaker 2: Florida State.
Speaker 5: How about this.
Speaker 2: PAC twelve title game, Las Vegas, Washington, Oregon Friday Night?
Speaker 2: Who's favored and by how many?
Speaker 8: Todd Oregon three and a half.
Speaker 5: I ain't Seaton O'Connor Oregon two and a half, ain't
Speaker 5: Marvin Oregon eight and a half, Paulie.
Speaker 3: Oregon six and a half.
Speaker 5: I think it's Oregon nine and a half, nine and
Speaker 5: a half.
Speaker 4: You think I.
Speaker 5: Think it is now nine and a half. Yes, I think.
Speaker 3: Neutral Site nine and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as of this morning it was nine and a half.
Speaker 2: Subject to change, but nine and a half.
Speaker 8: It seems like a lot of points.
Speaker 2: Washington beat Oregon last time nine and a half Neutral SEC.
Speaker 2: Just some numbers to think about going into this weekend. Tonight,
Speaker 2: the acc SEC challenge continues there, the NBA playoffs, The
Speaker 2: wonky NBA Playoffs roll on. I'm still not sure what's
Speaker 2: going on, but the only thing I'm tuning in for
Speaker 2: is the courts, just to see how they paint the courts.
Speaker 2: That's basically it. I mean, I'm watching NBA basketball, and
Speaker 2: I know there's things at stake and winning and you know,
Speaker 2: you won your bracket or something and point differential and
Speaker 2: it's still just NBA basketball. But did watch a little
Speaker 2: bit of it last night, trying to figure out a
Speaker 2: little bit as we go along.
Speaker 5: I didn't do a deep dive on this.
Speaker 2: It just felt like the NBA was saying, damn it,
Speaker 2: you're gonna love the NBA early before it gets to Christmas,
Speaker 2: because Christmas is when we start to watch NBA basketball.
Speaker 2: This commissioner was like, you're gonna watch We're gonna make
Speaker 2: sure you watch.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm watching. It's not like I'm on the
Speaker 5: edge of my.
Speaker 2: Seat going, oh my god, Sacramento advanced your squad. I
Speaker 2: do love the Kings and they came back to beat
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. There seton what's poll question, we're
Speaker 2: going to go at least the first hour here, Well.
Speaker 4: We have they sort of run the gamut here today. Okay,
Speaker 4: we could say if Alabama beats Georgia, YESEC champions dot
Speaker 4: dot dot. Oh, okay, we can populate from there, because
Speaker 4: that would obviously lead to unbelievable chaos.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm I'm really curious about Texas because Texas beat
Speaker 5: Alabama at Alabama and that's a damn good win. But
Speaker 5: feels like they're going to be on the outside looking in,
Speaker 5: and I find that to be. We won't worry about
Speaker 5: that next year at this time. That's where a lot
Speaker 5: of people are going to go. Next year at this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, next year at this time Texas needs
Speaker 2: some help there, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8: Next year, Oh, this is going to be pissed when
Speaker 8: you're thirteenth.
Speaker 2: Team, no complaining. It's like when we expanded to sixty
Speaker 2: eight teams march madness, I go, do not say we
Speaker 2: got hosed. We were on the bubble. If you're not
Speaker 2: one of the sixty eight, then you know your coach
Speaker 2: should be fired.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me that. So where we get that thirteenth team?
Speaker 10: Like, man, we got hosed? No, probably didn't. Yes, Virginia
Speaker 10: Tech every March. Come on, we beat Duke on the road. Yeah,
Speaker 10: but you guys lost the Crappensburg State at home.
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, let's go by the way Crappensburg State. I've
Speaker 2: been told the hoodies are going fast. If you want
Speaker 2: to get a Crappensburg State hoodie or any of the
Speaker 2: other gear that we have, you can go to damn
Speaker 2: pat anything else seaton that you might be thinking about.
Speaker 2: We're rooting for chaos this weekend. We rarely get it,
Speaker 2: but we're rooting for.
Speaker 4: It's funny because we're rooting for chaos. Which what exactly
Speaker 4: would chaos mean?
Speaker 2: I guess that Florida State would drop out, Alabama would
Speaker 2: get in, would Georgia stay in? What about if Oregon wins?
Speaker 2: If Ohio State is on the outside and is not
Speaker 2: even playing but somehow gets in. Is there any other
Speaker 2: outlier there that you go, they got a shot here.
Speaker 2: What if Washington wins that game they're in. What if
Speaker 2: Florida State wins, they're undefeated and they don't have their
Speaker 2: star quarterback there?
Speaker 5: Now, should you be factoring that in the human element?
Speaker 2: Now, if these are computers, the computer doesn't do that,
Speaker 2: but the human element is like, I don't know, No,
Speaker 2: Jordan Trama is here, Can you ignore that it's a
Speaker 2: made for TV event?
Speaker 5: Yeah, seedon, I don't know.
Speaker 4: We have enough time in the next two hours to
Speaker 4: get into it. So because the thing that I'm struggling
Speaker 4: with is I get that there would be like things
Speaker 4: shifting whatever else. But the very first example of it
Speaker 4: would be chaos if Alabama gets in. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: not really like would Georgia or Alabama that I mean
Speaker 4: that seemed that doesn't exactly seem like chaos. It seems
Speaker 4: like the last ten years.
Speaker 5: Okay, what would be chaos, Paully?
Speaker 3: If Alabama wins a close game over Georgia where Georgia
Speaker 3: is right in it to the end and Alabama wins
Speaker 3: by like a point, and then you throw in if
Speaker 3: somehow Iowa beats Michigan, if those two things happen on Saturday.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have like six teams in the mix for
Speaker 3: four spots, and you're gonna have to come up with
Speaker 3: some reasons to put them in and take them out.
Speaker 3: Because Alabama beating Georgia neutral field, you're not gonna put
Speaker 3: him in. And Georgia, two time defending champs, lose by
Speaker 3: a point on a neutral field, Your drop them to five,
Speaker 3: and then Michigan's the favorite. I'm just saying those two
Speaker 3: games would decide it.
Speaker 2: Okay, But I'm looking at Vegas, and really that's what
Speaker 2: you should go on. Vegas is saying Michigan is the
Speaker 2: best team, then Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, Texas, Washington, Florida State.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what how does Vegas define Michigan as the best team? PAULI.
Speaker 3: Okay, they're not necessarily saying Michigan's the best team, as
Speaker 3: they're saying Michigan has the best chance. Because Michigan has
Speaker 3: an easy game this weekend in theory against Iowa. Georgia
Speaker 3: has a Their chance to make the playoffs is harder,
Speaker 3: a little harder because of this weekend's games. So I'll
Speaker 3: bet you when this weekend is over, Georgia is the
Speaker 3: overall favorite.
Speaker 5: If Georgia beats Alabama.
Speaker 3: Correct and Michigan handles business, I bet you Georgia is
Speaker 3: the Vegas favorite.
Speaker 2: We always root for this or we always think there
Speaker 2: could be chaos, and there rarely is. But if Louisville
Speaker 2: beats Florida State, Florida State's just going to drop out.
Speaker 2: But there's always going to be that well, there's always
Speaker 2: been that team that.
Speaker 5: Fifth where we go, oh man, who's going to be
Speaker 5: that team this year?
Speaker 2: Because the committee it goes back to what was it
Speaker 2: TCU many many years ago, and I thought they deserved
Speaker 2: to be in the final four and they're like number
Speaker 2: five and they weren't going to move in. But now
Speaker 2: you get to the point where it's the point of
Speaker 2: no return with Florida State, because if Florida State wins,
Speaker 2: they're in. Yeah, nothing you can do about it, whether
Speaker 2: they have their star quarterback or not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauling, we.
Speaker 3: Threw out an idea probably years ago. Whoever is the
Speaker 3: team that gets left out. Let's say, let's say how
Speaker 3: Texas finishes five and is left out of the playoffs,
Speaker 3: they get the right to play the National Title game
Speaker 3: winner and to open the season next year. The team
Speaker 3: that got screwed against the best team in football opens
Speaker 3: next season. You have a natural built in storyline and
Speaker 3: you just leave a hole in the college football schedule.
Speaker 2: Well, I was waiting for Iowa to play LSU and
Speaker 2: women's basketball oh to open up this season.
Speaker 5: That would have been great. That's marketing right there. They
Speaker 5: didn't do that. Nobody listens, nobody cares, you know, they
Speaker 5: we should be running things. Maybe we should should we should.
Speaker 4: Exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 8: In twenty twenty eight. We'll be free You.
Speaker 5: Guys will be free agents in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: If you put all five of us together, we're like
Speaker 3: one really smart person.
Speaker 2: But you four moving on in twenty twenty eight. Now,
Speaker 2: will you get picked off by some of these other
Speaker 2: shows hadn't happened yet, will transfer portal? I'm not holding
Speaker 2: my breath.
Speaker 5: Can you get somebody to sit in here and then
Speaker 5: you guys continue the show just under another name, or
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Speaker 5: Johnny Carson or CBS Evening News with Dan rather the
Speaker 5: Dan Patrick Show with Ross Tucker.
Speaker 4: And I'm essentially the Ed McMahon of the show because
Speaker 4: all I do is laugh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, sir, you are correct, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5: Okay once again, Christmas Eve twenty twenty seven. See yeah, yeah, all.
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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame semi finalists list is out. Some
Speaker 2: very familiar names will sort through that coming up a
Speaker 2: little bit. Whole question is going to be one for
Speaker 2: the first down received O'Connor.
Speaker 4: While we'll still populating our chaos poll oh as we're calling.
Speaker 5: I know, she goes, wow, chaos. If Alabama beach Georgia,
Speaker 5: that's chaos.
Speaker 4: This is crazy. I can't believe that this is Alabama
Speaker 4: might be in chaos.
Speaker 2: Okay, but what's it mean for Texas if Alabama beach
Speaker 2: Georgia because Texas beat Alabama at Alabama? Does that change
Speaker 2: anything here? Does Ohio State have a chance to get in?
Speaker 2: I guess there's there's different scenarios, but some are long shot.
Speaker 2: Most are long shots. It feels like what if Iowa
Speaker 2: beats Michigan. All I know is DraftKings has Iowa scoring
Speaker 2: zero point five points in the first half, zero point
Speaker 2: five points in the second half. That's the over under.
Speaker 2: It is a balanced offense. That's for yes.
Speaker 8: Martin Ohio State is out.
Speaker 7: I'm sure their fans are like, look, if we don't
Speaker 7: be Michigan, we don't deserve anything.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 5: I don't think they feel that way. I don't think
Speaker 5: they feel that way.
Speaker 2: If you said they somehow got in, they'd somehow look
Speaker 2: past that loss to Michigan. Let's go to Chris Simms,
Speaker 2: Pro Football Talk Live co host and of course his
Speaker 2: podcast Unbuttoned. Former NFL Texas quarterback, you know, speaking to Texas.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about you today because your dad, of course,
Speaker 2: great quarterback, borderline Hall of Famer, and you being his son,
Speaker 2: you were a big recruit. You go to Texas and
Speaker 2: now you have Arch Manning with his dad and his
Speaker 2: family lineage, and I'm wondering, now you went your first
Speaker 2: year and sat and then Major Apple White and you
Speaker 2: I think split time your sophomore year, if that sounds right.
Speaker 2: Arch Manning goes there. He just played a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know if quinn Ewers is coming back to Texas,
Speaker 2: but could you see a scenario where arch Manning transfers
Speaker 2: from Texas.
Speaker 9: It'll it'll be interesting, it will be And I mean,
Speaker 9: he certainly got some competition there. It's not gonna it
Speaker 9: doesn't look like it's just gonna be the red carpet
Speaker 9: is going to be rolled out for him. Right, So
Speaker 9: it's say, nothing's gonna be given to you in big
Speaker 9: time college football. You're gonna have to compete and do that.
Speaker 9: I learned that, Like you said, I made my first
Speaker 9: start actually my freshman year in the Bonfire game at
Speaker 9: Texas A and M.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 9: That was quite the experience to be cool and a
Speaker 9: part of it. But then yeah, sophomore year split time
Speaker 9: with major and how to deal with all that, and
Speaker 9: then junior year became the starter full time. But the
Speaker 9: one thing I'll say about Archie Manning or arch Manning
Speaker 9: I should say, is man just watching him the other night,
Speaker 9: he really looked like his grandfather in a lot of ways.
Speaker 9: I thought he looked more like Archie man than he
Speaker 9: did Peyton or Eli the way he ran and everything,
Speaker 9: even the way he throws the football.
Speaker 6: But yeah, we'll see where it goes there.
Speaker 9: You know, there's I'm blanking on the other kid's name
Speaker 9: at Texas that took over for yours. He said, he
Speaker 9: looks like he's got some talent and some big time
Speaker 9: upside as well.
Speaker 2: But this is different though your freshman year you're not starting.
Speaker 2: There was no transfer portal, and if you did transfer,
Speaker 2: he had to sit out of here. Arch Manning could transfer,
Speaker 2: you know, in the off season and go to Ole
Speaker 2: Miss or Ohio State or any of these places.
Speaker 9: Now, he shouldn't be afraid to do whatever he's going
Speaker 9: to do to put himself in the right position.
Speaker 6: You know, That's what I would say.
Speaker 9: It's big business, right how you you know where you are,
Speaker 9: the support you have playing, getting that experience playing and
Speaker 9: playing and playing.
Speaker 6: Makes you a better football player.
Speaker 9: And that's what he's going to make his number one priority,
Speaker 9: you know, which I'm sure is no one goals to
Speaker 9: get to the NFL.
Speaker 6: That's the most important thing.
Speaker 5: Malik Murphy is the Olik Murphy there it is.
Speaker 9: I know, I was gonna say Milik, and then I
Speaker 9: was I was afraid to say the last name.
Speaker 6: I wasn't sure if I was right there. I was blanking.
Speaker 5: Where are we at this point in the NFL?
Speaker 9: We're at a point right now in the NFL where
Speaker 9: I feel like, you know, we've seen the I think
Speaker 9: we know who the cream of the crop is. I
Speaker 9: think we know the teams that can legitimately win the
Speaker 9: Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Okay, how many are there that could win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5: Not go win?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Right, I'd say, you know, I'd say there's eight. Maybe
Speaker 9: I'd say about eight right now. Right, That's where I
Speaker 9: kind of look at it.
Speaker 2: Let's run down the teams. Okay, all right, so you
Speaker 2: got Kansas City.
Speaker 6: Yeah, NFC, Right, all right, so let's go conference.
Speaker 9: So the AFC, I go, Let's go Kansas City, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Miami.
Speaker 9: I look at those four teams and go, they can
Speaker 9: win the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Right, Buffalo's not in there.
Speaker 9: I'm not going to put Buffalo in there. It's too
Speaker 9: much of a one man show, right. Super Bowl's got
Speaker 9: to be about a team, you know, It's can't be
Speaker 9: one guy doing everything for the team and then the
Speaker 9: rest of the team fails in him, and then for
Speaker 9: some reason everybody blames him.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 9: It's a crazy thing. That's a different topic for a
Speaker 9: different time. But then in the NFC, I kind of
Speaker 9: look at yeah, the Eagles, the forty nine ers, Dallas,
Speaker 9: and I'll throw Detroit in there, even though I do
Speaker 9: think Detroit's got some cracks in the armor that I'm
Speaker 9: a little concerned about. But you know, I do think
Speaker 9: there's enough talent in coaching there that they could write
Speaker 9: the ship like the ship.
Speaker 6: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: I was watching in season hard Knocks last night with
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, Tyreek Hill, and he's the feature Tyri.
Speaker 2: If Kevin Hart could play football, he would be Tyreek Kill.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is fascinating during a game because Yeah, and
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of Ricky Henderson in him because
Speaker 2: he talked to himself the whole time.
Speaker 5: Like I'm here, I'm here, I'm here all day.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with watching him and that speed, when your
Speaker 2: field level speed, it is so different than when you're
Speaker 2: watching on TV or in the stands.
Speaker 5: It's like, Wow, there's there's nobody like him.
Speaker 9: A lot of great a lot of greats talk in
Speaker 9: the third person, right, That's what I've learned through my
Speaker 9: time in sports. Uh, And I love that and that's
Speaker 9: what makes them great. You know, he has fun, he's loose, right,
Speaker 9: Why because he's the best damn athlete.
Speaker 6: On the football field. So he's like, this is fun.
Speaker 6: Look at me. Nobody can do what I can.
Speaker 9: And yeah, this is where I fought with the masses
Speaker 9: a few years back when I was like, Tyreek Kills
Speaker 9: the best receiver in football. I I don't care if
Speaker 9: he doesn't run the exact, most precise routes like some
Speaker 9: of the other receivers in football. He's the greatest weapon,
Speaker 9: you know, arguably we've ever seen at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 6: And I think his speed, Wait, you would.
Speaker 5: Put him above Randy Moss.
Speaker 9: No, I'd say he's right up there in that discussion there,
Speaker 9: I do think he's right there with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah he is.
Speaker 9: He is on a Hall of Fame pace, and you know,
Speaker 9: I think he's the MVP of football right now. Everything
Speaker 9: they do, it's all dictated because of him and what
Speaker 9: he brings to that offense.
Speaker 6: That's where he's special.
Speaker 9: You know, he's an incredible person, not an incredible worker.
Speaker 9: That's the other thing I know about Tyreek Hill. I mean,
Speaker 9: he gets after it. He expects a lot from himself,
Speaker 9: and yeah, he's unbelievable football player.
Speaker 2: I love when you hear the dialogue. I mean, really,
Speaker 2: it's just NFL films, is what hard Knocks is. You know,
Speaker 2: they're just capturing this audio, but they don't realize how
Speaker 2: great Max Crosby is of the Raiders because he's in
Speaker 2: the backfield.
Speaker 5: And that's why I think sacks are overrated. Pressures hurries.
Speaker 2: I think that's really an important stat Max Crosby is
Speaker 2: just there. He's omnipresent, and you're even like two is
Speaker 2: he even acknowledging this? Tyreek Hill goes damn, he might be
Speaker 2: the best player in football, like you're watching this and
Speaker 2: he never ever stops.
Speaker 6: No, he never stops.
Speaker 9: Right, I think, you know, like his top end, like
Speaker 9: you know, ultimate, but like talent, I don't think is
Speaker 9: quite as good as maybe TJ. Watt or Micah Parsons
Speaker 9: or Nick Bosa or Miles Garrett. Right, I don't gonna
Speaker 9: quite put him there. I think he's maybe just a
Speaker 9: notch below for me as far as pure physical gifts.
Speaker 9: But I think the point to you make, it's the instincts,
Speaker 9: it's the tenacity, it's the craziness, and it's the fact
Speaker 9: that you know those other guys I mentioned they can
Speaker 9: press on the gas pedal one hundred miles per hour,
Speaker 9: but they need to take a few plays off every
Speaker 9: now and then. Max Crosby can go ninety seven miles
Speaker 9: per hour the whole game and never take one playoff.
Speaker 9: And I think that's what I'm amazed by, really is
Speaker 9: just is the fact of how he can just you know,
Speaker 9: Red needle it all game long.
Speaker 6: Phenomenal football player.
Speaker 9: And it does feel like, finally this year people have
Speaker 9: realized how damn good he is. And You're right, stats
Speaker 9: are overrated, you know. I'm big into the f the
Speaker 9: playoff stat. They need to make that.
Speaker 6: In the NFL.
Speaker 9: You know, the guy who ruined the play doesn't get
Speaker 9: credit for it, you know, and he's a guy that
Speaker 9: ruins a lot of players for that Raiders defense.
Speaker 2: Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live co host his podcast
Speaker 2: called Unbuttoned. Dak Prescott's getting some MVP love, but I
Speaker 2: would caution the voters, let's look at those stats that
Speaker 2: he's put up against some really bad teams. I want
Speaker 2: to see him in big games. I want to see
Speaker 2: him that and Jalen Hurts is your MVP. I think
Speaker 2: the front runner right now according to Vegas, But Dak
Speaker 2: it feels like we want to shoehorn him in there
Speaker 2: because he's the Cowboy quarterback, and I think he's played well,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I mean, let's see what you
Speaker 2: do against the Eagles. Let let's see what you do
Speaker 2: at these big games. You know what happened against the Niners.
Speaker 2: They got rough due. So if you want to win
Speaker 2: an MV and I still think it's open to win,
Speaker 2: then you better win some of these big games here
Speaker 2: and be and performed big in those games.
Speaker 9: I'm totally fair. I think your assessment there that's been
Speaker 9: the problem. I think a little bit over the last
Speaker 9: two years is just in some of the biggest moments,
Speaker 9: Dak Prescott hasn't played his best right And you know,
Speaker 9: you bring up a point, Yeah, he's shoehorn in there
Speaker 9: because he's a Dallas Cowboys quarterback. Well he also gets
Speaker 9: a lot of crap because he's a Dallas Cowboy quarterback too,
Speaker 9: So I think you got to, you know, take that
Speaker 9: into account. But he's playing phenomenal football. He is, and
Speaker 9: I think, you know, more than what I argued early
Speaker 9: in the year a little bit in his defense where
Speaker 9: I know it wasn't perfect, but like I did, the
Speaker 9: you know, I do my unbuttoned podcast on Wednesdays. They
Speaker 9: call it the what the f Happened? Podcast? Right, because
Speaker 9: I deep dive into film and I watch it. And
Speaker 9: I watched that forty nine Ers game back early in
Speaker 9: the year, and what I would tell a lot of
Speaker 9: people is if you and you know, me and Todd
Speaker 9: Fritz and we all sat down and we watched the
Speaker 9: film together, you'd go, well, damn, really, there wasn't one
Speaker 9: person open that whole damn game, and the offensive attack
Speaker 9: couldn't have been more bland and simple, let alone that
Speaker 9: time of the year, they were the shortest passing team
Speaker 9: in football. To me, the biggest difference is they've opened
Speaker 9: the field up a little bit and he is a
Speaker 9: great down the field thrower and he doesn't blink under
Speaker 9: pressure or with the pocket collapsing.
Speaker 6: That's when he's at his best. But I think your
Speaker 6: point that you make is real.
Speaker 9: The final finishing touches is he's got to play good
Speaker 9: against some of the elite teams in football and shows
Speaker 9: he can pull off some wins against them, and I
Speaker 9: think then he becomes a real big time legit MVP contender.
Speaker 2: People seem to be mixed on Justin Field of what
Speaker 2: the Bears do moving forward. And you know, we've had
Speaker 2: analysts who have said, hey, I would stay with him,
Speaker 2: I would bypass Caleb Williams or Drake may maybe trade
Speaker 2: that first pick that you're gonna get from Carolina. But
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get more expensive the decisions more
Speaker 2: expensive with Justin Field because you're gonna eventually have to
Speaker 2: pick up that fifth year option. Then you have to
Speaker 2: start to pay him, and then now you've missed out
Speaker 2: in this whole rookie contract situation. If you're running the Bears,
Speaker 2: have you seen enough of Justin Fields? And if you have,
Speaker 2: are you staying with him or are you moving on?
Speaker 2: It's it's a really tough decision. It is, because to
Speaker 2: make the decision right now, Yeah, it's it's you're on
Speaker 2: the clock with one number one pick.
Speaker 5: You're on the clock right right now.
Speaker 9: And I was one before the year to say, like,
Speaker 9: you stick with Justin Fields and see what you can
Speaker 9: work with here, because he's got some elite traits about
Speaker 9: him that are special, right you know, his running, he's
Speaker 9: the best running quarterback in football.
Speaker 6: We know that.
Speaker 9: If you put me on the clock and I don't
Speaker 9: like saying this, Yes, I'd probably move on with Justin
Speaker 9: from Justin Fields, I would, you know, I don't think
Speaker 9: they're egregiously wrong if they stick with him, I don't.
Speaker 9: But the other night, you know, in that game itself
Speaker 9: was troubling enough that what.
Speaker 5: Are you moving on to Caleb Williams or Drake May What?
Speaker 9: Yeah, one of those two. I'm gonna move the Bears
Speaker 9: to me. The Bears are a team that I would
Speaker 9: say watch out for in the future. Right. I don't
Speaker 9: know if they're gonna keep Matt Ebrafluse or what. But
Speaker 9: you saw that game on Monday Night. They got a big,
Speaker 9: overpowering offensive line, they got a good tight end, they
Speaker 9: got Mooney and Dj Moore at receiver, they got good
Speaker 9: running backs, they got.
Speaker 5: Some can't they score touchdowns?
Speaker 9: Well, I think a little bit early in the year
Speaker 9: was it was Fields issues group.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about Monday Night because because.
Speaker 9: Of the throwing, plain and simple. That's it's as all
Speaker 9: there is to it. How many replays did you see
Speaker 9: the other night where he was under pressure or whatever
Speaker 9: and you're seeing this sky camb you and you go, damn,
Speaker 9: there's somebody open right down the middle.
Speaker 5: Okay, but is that going to change? You want to
Speaker 5: stay with the guy who's been doing this for three years,
Speaker 5: I don't you know.
Speaker 9: I would definitely tell you if I stayed with him,
Speaker 9: I definitely wouldn't pick up the fifth year option. Like,
Speaker 9: it's okay not to pick up a fifth year option.
Speaker 9: These are big boys, they're making lots of money. It's
Speaker 9: okay to say we're gonna evaluate you one more year
Speaker 9: and see where it goes. Like the Giant to the
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones. I think it's the proper thing to do there.
Speaker 9: So if that's what they want to do. But if
Speaker 9: you made me choose right now, no, I would probably
Speaker 9: move on to go to one of the two guys
Speaker 9: you know TV scouting as far as Kayleb Williams or
Speaker 9: Drake May, I'd probably go on to one of those
Speaker 9: two guys.
Speaker 5: Yes, one last question here. If CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud was in Carolina and Bryce Young in Houston. Yeah,
Speaker 2: finished that sentence.
Speaker 9: It would look a lot different. Carolina would be better
Speaker 9: and Houston wouldn't be as good. Well, that's playing it,
Speaker 9: So CJ. Stroud, Dan, there's a reason. And I know
Speaker 9: I've been wrong other years, right, I've been right more
Speaker 9: than I've been wrong though, and I had CJ. Stroud
Speaker 9: in Tier one by himself. No, I know that his
Speaker 9: ability to throw and everybody is seeing it now and
Speaker 9: move in the pocket, sixth sense type of moves, and
Speaker 9: the way he played last week. They didn't run the ball,
Speaker 9: people weren't open, and he just carried the freaking team
Speaker 9: like a superstar.
Speaker 6: He is right.
Speaker 9: Bryce Young needs a certain formula around him. He needs
Speaker 9: They need to spread the field, they need weapons. It
Speaker 9: needs to be more like the Tua kind of version.
Speaker 9: He needs Alabama. He needs that. That's a little bit,
Speaker 9: you know, for lack of a better way to say, yes,
Speaker 9: where CJ. Stroud can run any offense and it doesn't matter,
Speaker 9: you know now they're better in Houston there in Carolina.
Speaker 6: I understand that.
Speaker 9: Uh, but I do think, you know, you switch teams,
Speaker 9: things will look a little different.
Speaker 6: Bryce Young, as slick as he is.
Speaker 9: And all that, I like a lot, right, but his arm,
Speaker 9: it's it's average for the NFL. And then the other
Speaker 9: thing is, like we talked about during the draft time,
Speaker 9: as quick as his releases and the decisions are, he
Speaker 9: loses time on the back end of plays because he
Speaker 9: can't stand in the pocket and make throws with people
Speaker 9: bearing down on him about to hit him. He's a
Speaker 9: lot of ducking and chucking that way because he's got
Speaker 9: to save himself to where plays where I go ooh.
Speaker 6: If he was CJ.
Speaker 9: Stroud, he would have just stand in there and take
Speaker 9: a shot, and he hit the twenty yard out route.
Speaker 9: Bryce Young is not afforded that luxury because when he
Speaker 9: gets hit, he gets ragdogged, and he's got to protect
Speaker 9: himself that way. And that's always what was scary to
Speaker 9: me about him coming out in the in the draft.
Speaker 5: And you were big on Lamar Jackson when nobody else was.
Speaker 6: You've I've had my moment.
Speaker 5: You love Kellen mon though.
Speaker 6: Listen through it.
Speaker 9: I had my homes and Josh Allen and Lamar right
Speaker 9: and c J. Stroud and of course yes, I had
Speaker 9: Zach Wilson and I did Matt Corral one year.
Speaker 2: So I've taken some you know, slaps in the face.
Speaker 2: I would stay with the Mad Corral. That might still
Speaker 2: happen there.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's gonna happen.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's gonna I think I'm done with
Speaker 9: that one, and I'm done with Zach Wilson, I.
Speaker 2: Think too good A busy with you always. Thank you
Speaker 2: Chris always Chris Sims. I always enjoyed talking to him.
Speaker 2: His podcast is called Unbuttoned. You can see him on
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Speaker 3: That's Alex Oon was practicing play by play from the
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Speaker 8: I don't know what's something about the sound of that.
Speaker 5: It didn't sound as dramatic as you would like it to.
Speaker 8: Yeah, not in a mean way. It's it's good play
Speaker 8: by play. It just sounded like he.
Speaker 5: Was not in a mean way.
Speaker 8: I'm practicing play by play for my living room.
Speaker 2: Maybe because they're trying to manufacture excitement in this in
Speaker 2: season tournament.
Speaker 5: Here a nine three run for the game.
Speaker 2: Well not everybody else to sound like Kevin Harlan, Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. I always love revisionist history when it comes
Speaker 2: to the draft, especially with quarterbacks in the NFL. I
Speaker 2: said that he was. I mean, I've been wrong as
Speaker 2: many times as I've been right. I remember David Klingler.
Speaker 2: I thought, Wow, David Klingler is going to be awesome,
Speaker 2: great athlete. David Carr, Derek Carr's brother. I thought, God,
Speaker 2: he's going to be great. I still stand by that one.
Speaker 2: The problem was that offensive line for the Texans was terrible.
Speaker 2: When when you get sacked an average of sixty plus
Speaker 2: times in his first three seasons. That probably does some
Speaker 2: damage to you mentally and physically.
Speaker 5: Yes, Yes, Marva.
Speaker 7: Dinny win his first start against the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 7: Sunday night, I was like, come on, everybody, let's go.
Speaker 7: The future's here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim Couch number one going to Cleveland. You know,
Speaker 2: you just have that. The draft is littered with these
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and I don't know if Rice Young is going
Speaker 2: to be a bust.
Speaker 5: Do I think he's going to be a franchise quarterback?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: But can he be a quarterback that if you surround him.
Speaker 2: If I put Bryce Young in Philadelphia, is he good?
Speaker 2: I'm saying he is because of the supporting cast. But
Speaker 2: that's what this is now. They'd never be able to
Speaker 2: do the brotherly shove with him because he's so slight.
Speaker 2: But it's the supporting cast. Who's your coach? What kind
Speaker 2: of continuity do you have your offensive coordinator? Like, there's
Speaker 2: so much the go into this where you look at
Speaker 2: success and failure can be really really small margin. Did
Speaker 2: you have anybody no offensive line?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: If I put Rock Purty in New England, he's not
Speaker 2: doing anything. If I put Mac Jones in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: He's probably a quality quarterback just because of the surrounding cast.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna get kicked to the curb be a
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Maybe you'll get a chance someplace else, But
Speaker 2: this is what happens with the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5: They move on quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, do you think that's one of the big
Speaker 3: reasons people are just going crazy over CJ. Stroud is that,
Speaker 3: at least from the appearances, he's doing really well with
Speaker 3: a below average roster. They're not the worst roster, but
Speaker 3: they're a below average roster.
Speaker 2: They have a better roster, I think than Carolina does.
Speaker 2: And I do think that CJ. Stroud is a better
Speaker 2: quarterback than Bryce Young. And if you put CJ. Stroud
Speaker 2: on Carolina, does he make them that much better? Probably not,
Speaker 2: but I think they are a better team. But Bryce
Speaker 2: Young on Houston is not going to be as good
Speaker 2: as c J.
Speaker 5: Stroud.
Speaker 6: C J.
Speaker 2: Stroud looks confident, He looks confident in the pocket. David
Speaker 2: Tepper had his press conference yesterday and he said he
Speaker 2: was a patient man. Here is his first comment talking
Speaker 2: about his reputation away from football as being a patient man.
Speaker 12: My reputation away from this game is one for extreme patience.
Speaker 12: You know, there's no reason why that doesn't you know,
Speaker 12: come here too.
Speaker 5: It does.
Speaker 12: That patience comes with good performance and things that you
Speaker 12: want to see progress being made on different aspects. And
Speaker 12: as you know, as I said, you know, I would
Speaker 12: like to have somebody here for twenty thirty years. I'd
Speaker 12: like to have somebody that would say eulogy at my
Speaker 12: funeral on thirty years.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe it's forty years. I hope a little humor
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 2: And originally they were moving up to get the number
Speaker 2: two pick in the draft, not number one.
Speaker 12: Originally we were going to go to the number two
Speaker 12: picked him, and we thought we'd get CJ. Because we
Speaker 12: thought the Texans were going to pick Price and listen,
Speaker 12: we preferred Bryce. He was our number one pick. We
Speaker 12: had a lot of conviction.
Speaker 2: Okay, why are you moving up to not get the
Speaker 2: guy you want? That doesn't make any sense. If you're
Speaker 2: moving up to two, then you're moving up to get CJ. Stround,
Speaker 2: Why are you moving up if you're not getting the
Speaker 2: guy you want?
Speaker 5: Yeah, pull or.
Speaker 3: It was a really really close debate. They said we're
Speaker 3: going to trade it. For one or two, because we
Speaker 3: look at these guys as one in one A. It
Speaker 3: wasn't you know Bryce Young by far in their minds.
Speaker 2: He also said that he didn't influence the pick of
Speaker 2: Bryce Young and all.
Speaker 12: Those decisions, you know, whether it was a head coach,
Speaker 12: whether it's Bryce. I don't really vote on those decisions
Speaker 12: until the last piece. Okay, so those decisions are made
Speaker 12: by by the football people.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: not involved in any of this until I have the
Speaker 2: final decision. How about you're involved in it, so then
Speaker 2: it doesn't come down to all right, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: And then you make the final decision. Say you made
Speaker 2: the final decision. Hey, I'm not involved. I let them
Speaker 2: do their due diligence here until they want handed to you.
Speaker 5: I don't know if Frank Reich wanted Bryce Young. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 9: That.
Speaker 2: Sounds like David Tepper did, sounds like I guess everybody
Speaker 2: was involved and they wanted him. Why would you go
Speaker 2: up to two to get C. J. Stroud if everybody
Speaker 2: wanted Bryce Young? Doesn't make any sense to me. And
Speaker 2: you're patient away from football, Okay, that helped you become
Speaker 2: a billionaire, how about you become patient with your football team.
Speaker 5: How about patients in picking the right coach? How about that.
Speaker 2: These billionaires I don't smart themselves sometimes. Speaking of which,
Speaker 2: what's up with Mark Cuban our two on the way
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