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Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of Couch

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Speaker 1: Talks on You Need Therapy Podcast, and my name's Kat.

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Speaker 2: I am the host.

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Speaker 1: And if you are unfamiliar with what couch Talks is,

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Speaker 1: it is the special bonus episode of You Need Therapy

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Speaker 1: where I answer questions that you guys send to me

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Speaker 1: and you can send those to Katherine at you Need

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Speaker 1: Therapy podcast dot com. Usually we answer one question a week,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do that. But before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: a couple things. I wanted to give an update on one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I gave this update, so I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give it today. I finished the sixth Harry Potter book.

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Speaker 1: I think it was The Half Blood Prince was the

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Speaker 1: title of that one. Which is very interesting because for

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Speaker 1: those of you who are unfamiliar with why I'm even

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Speaker 1: talking about this, I watched all the Harry Potter movies

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and so in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and read all the books.

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Speaker 1: And when I say read, I mean listen to them

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Speaker 1: on audible. And I remember the sixth the movie, thinking well,

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Speaker 1: that was a pointless movie, like a lot happens but

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Speaker 1: nothing happens, and it felt like it was just setting

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Speaker 2: Book or movie.

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Speaker 1: However, I really enjoyed the book, and I think also

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Speaker 1: not much happened, but the story was very captivating to me,

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Speaker 1: and it kept me interested. And I think that might

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Speaker 1: just be because I listened to it over I mean,

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Speaker 1: it took me almost two months to listen to the

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Speaker 1: forget a lot of what happened, but I just know

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Speaker 1: it was interesting to me. So the book was better

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Speaker 1: than the movie in that case. And so now I'm

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Speaker 1: waiting to start the next one. It is the last one.

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Speaker 1: From what I know, there's two movies but one book left,

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Speaker 1: so I'm kind of prolonging it because it's kind of

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Speaker 1: sad now for it to be over.

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Speaker 2: It's been.

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Speaker 1: I started in January, and I thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to actually take me more than a year to do

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Speaker 1: all this, but I guess when you listen to it,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. But I'm not of sad, so I'm going

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Speaker 1: to prolong me beginning the next book, so stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: I really do also still think about how I which

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Speaker 1: I would have read these during my childhood, because I

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Speaker 1: could have been having this affinity for this thing for

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Speaker 1: so long and I just was like too cool for it,

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Speaker 1: But lesson learned. The next thing I want to mention

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Speaker 1: been purposely staying out of the conversation around ozembic or

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Speaker 1: I have tried to stay out of it just because

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Speaker 1: However, something happened that I was like, Okay, I can't

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Speaker 2: We're all talking about it in spaces.

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Speaker 1: I can't pull up social media without it popping up somewhere.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm working on an episode to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: Now it's time to get into the question for today.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read the question and we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Hi, Kat, I've been listening to your

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm your friend, even though we've never

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Speaker 1: actually met. Anyway, I'm a super baby counseling student right

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Speaker 1: Mental health counseling. I love what I'm learning and feel

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm gonna have to just give up

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Speaker 1: those of you who actually are not in school for

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Speaker 1: therapy of any sort, the practicum and the internship are

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Speaker 1: I think I learn more from my internship than I actually.

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Speaker 1: But the opportunities to find that are going to differ

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Speaker 1: If I just looked within my radius, I could find places,

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Speaker 1: so it really worked out. So expand your search. So

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Speaker 1: first reach out to your school. Reach out to your advisors.

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Speaker 1: They should provide you with a list of approved sites

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering is what's the missing link? It actually should

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Speaker 2: So reach out for support.

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Speaker 1: That is part of what These people are there to

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Speaker 2: It should be difficult. It is difficult, but it should

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Speaker 1: So really, what I'm telling you is ask for help.

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Speaker 1: You're not a burden. That is their job. They should

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Speaker 1: They should want you to be successful. That is what

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Speaker 1: they are there to do, and that is what they

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Speaker 1: good luck, and I hope you can get the help

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Speaker 1: us today on couch Talks. Like I said, you can

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Speaker 1: email any questions to Catherine at You Need Therapy podcast

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Speaker 1: dot com. If you have questions about ozembic or any

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Speaker 1: drugs associated with that like semi glue tide.

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Speaker 2: Let me know.

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Speaker 1: I would love to weave some of what you guys

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Speaker 2: Out for you guys.

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Speaker 1: So I will be back with you guys on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, I hope you are having the day, the second,

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Speaker 1: the hour that you need to have, and I'll talk

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