WEBVTT - 6/13/25: ANALYSIS: Did Trump Let Israel Start WW3? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.599 Hey guys, Saga and Crystal here. 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.200 Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.840 and we are so excited about what that means for 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:08.720 the future of the show. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.760 This is the only place where you can find honest 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.239 perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.680 not exist anywhere else. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.080 So if that is something that's important to you, please 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.599 go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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Of course, this comes on the heels of 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:52.479 the Israelis launching an a legal, unprovoked, aggressive attack on Iran. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.560 Iran now promising retaliation. We have some updates from President 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.040 Trump last night, Doctor Parsi. Before I get you in, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:00.920 let me just go ahead and put this up on 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.039 the screen. In terms of the statement that he put out, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.280 he says, I gave Iran a chance after chance to 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.240 make a deal. I told them in the strongest of words, 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.280 to just do it. But no matter how hard they tried, 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.800 no matter how close they got, they just couldn't get 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:15.520 it done. I told them it would be much worse 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.120 than anything they know anticipated or were told. That the 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.160 US would make the best and most lethal military equipment 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.080 anywhere in the world by far, and that Israel has 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.000 a lot of it with much more to come. They 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.880 know how to use it. Certain Iranian hardliners spoke bravely, 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:29.920 but they didn't know what was about to happen. They 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.960 are all dead now and it will only get worse. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.120 There has already been great death and destruction, but there 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.480 is still time to make the slaughter. With the next 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.640 already planned attacks being even more brutal come to an end, 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.480 Aron must make a deal before there is nothing left 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.039 and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.880 No more death, no more destruction. Just do it before 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.200 it is too late. God blessed you also, doctor Parci 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.680 with that. If I can just get your reaction off 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.200 the top here of what Israel has done and what 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.880 we know about US involvement. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.720 So what the Israelis have done is to follow the 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.960 same playbook as they did in Lebanon, which is that 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.480 they went after the chain of command and the heads 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:15.080 of the various military installations as organizations in order to 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.560 essentially paralyze Hezbo law and disable it from being able 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.320 to respond. And once that has happened, then they went 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.520 all out and just destroyed as much as they could. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.639 They did the same thing in Syria as well. Once 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.400 the Assauld government was gone. That's when these Radis really 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.440 started bombing the country to eliminate whatever military capabilities it 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.400 had left to ensure that regardless of who would come 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.440 into power in Syria afterwards, they would not be able 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.400 to pose a challenge to Israel for years to come. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.079 That seems to be the same strategy the Iranian seems 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.160 to have complete and miscalculated, thinking that any strike would 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.080 go after economic targets, It would go after oil installations, 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.400 perhaps the nuclear program itself. I don't think they calculated 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.120 that it would go after individuals in this manner, or 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.480 perhaps they didn't think that the Israelis have the capability. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.320 I think also they were lured by what clearly now 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.840 appears to have been a deception by the Trump administration 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.040 in which not a deception that I think at least 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.520 took place from the beginning, meaning eight or so weeks 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.400 ago when talk started, but a deception that started sometime 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.000 over this weekend, in which there was a signaling of 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.600 talks coming up, that he didn't want to see an attack, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.120 which I think probably put the Iranians in the law 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:32.000 thinking that if anything happens, it will happen after Sunday's negotiations, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.520 which probably won't take place right now, but instead the 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.800 plan was to go ahead much sooner than that. It 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.520 seems to have taken them by surprise. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.520 But I think also there's something very important here to mention. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.440 We've seen that they've been targeting apartment buildings similar to 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.480 what they have done in Beirut, what they have done 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.920 of course in Gaza, in a much much lower scale. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:53.880 What we've seen is that over the course of the 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.680 last two years, but also before that, the Israelis have 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.840 run a campaign to essentially eliminate all of the norms 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.120 around the use of force that have been developed over time, 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.440 but particularly after the Second World War, to eliminate all 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:13.320 international law. Because what they're doing here is that they're 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.800 going after civilians and military officials. But they're doing so 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.240 not on the battlefield. They're not doing so in the barracks. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.760 They're doing it in their homes when they're asleep, together 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.560 with their children and families, as well as scores of 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.000 other families in the same apartment building. If any other 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.720 country were to do this against the United States, meaning 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.640 that they would target even military officials, but outside of 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.640 the battlefield, outside of the barracks, but at their homes 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.240 together with their families, the United States would rightfully call 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:43.760 that acts of terrorism. But this is what Israel has normalized. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.880 And I think again the Iranians may have underestimated how 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.520 far the Israelis were willing to go to break all 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.240 kinds of norms when it comes to warfare. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.080 I think that's such an important point, not only of course, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:00.360 if our own military officers were assassinated in their homes. Certainly, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:05.000 if Israeli political leadership or military officers were assassinated in 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.520 their homes, that would rightfully be recognized as a legal 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.919 assassinations terror. And yet This is just par for the 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.800 course with the way the Israelis are allowed to operate. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.880 And I think it's exactly that impunity and that diplomatic 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:24.400 cover that US and broadly the West have offered Israel 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.159 that have led to this point of extreme escalation. Just 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.800 to further your point, I want to put up on 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.720 the screen here the New York Times report of what 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.360 exactly was struck, to the best of our knowledge at 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.960 this point, so they say that top Iranians were assassinated. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.440 Mohammed Bagari, the commander in chief of the military, second 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.360 highest commander after the supring leader, was killed. Ali Shamkani, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.400 leading politician who was overseeing the nuclear talks with the US, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.080 also killed. Mister Kamani moved quickly to a point replacements, 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.160 aiming to avoid the appearance of leadership vacuum. In addition, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.880 in targeting the Natan's nuclear site, Israel struck at the 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.480 beating heart of the Iranian nuclear program, they say. The 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.240 Israeli military said it caused significant damage at Natan's and 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.360 hit an underground compound housing centrifugees. Raphael Garsi, the chief 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.239 of the IAEA, said there were no indications of attacks 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.520 to other major Iranian nuclear sites. In addition, doctor Parci 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.799 understand that there were several nuclear scientists who were also 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.280 assassinated that you're understanding as well, and talked to us 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.719 about the significance of these targets and how detrimental they 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:33.039 will be to Iran and their ability to function as 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.840 a ongoing administration and also in order to retaliate. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.679 So, for instance, one of the people that they assassinated 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.760 was a professor at Tehran University, a professor of physics. 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.120 His wife and child was also killed when they targeted 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.240 his apartment building. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.120 Unclear whether there were other people in other apartments in 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.440 the same building that were also killed, but the apartment 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.400 does pretty bad shape now. So these are the type 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.279 of things. And then when you take a look at 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.000 what the Europeans are saying, they're starting off by condemning 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.800 the Ivanian response, no condemnation whatsoever, what these Raelis have 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.280 done instead coming out saying that Israel has a right 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.160 to defend itself. So once again, even though the Israelis 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.760 themselves say that this was a preemptive strike, which in 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.800 and of itself is illegal, there is anticipatory self defense 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.240 and international law, but this is more of a preventive strike, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.000 and there is no legality for that, and the Europeans 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.720 fully understand this. Nevertheless, they come out and call this 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.640 self defense. So it's the same playbook that we also 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.520 see from the West in the last two years. Whatever 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.560 the Israelis do, whatever impunity they have, and whatever impunity 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.240 they grab, it is granted by Western powers, which then 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.200 is dramatically reducing any moral standing that the West has 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.760 in the eyes of the rest of the world, regardless 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:51.520 of what the other. 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:52.920 Countries may think of Iran. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.880 Now what this does to the program, First of all, 0:07:56.040 --> 0:08:00.000 when these Raelies have already assassinated quite a few Ivanian scientists, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.440 including the head of the atomic energy program before and 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.560 another one was now killed as well, that has not 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.320 had a dramatic change in the direction of the programming. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.720 Has actually accelerated the program, but it has not taken 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.160 out their full capacity, because this is not a program 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.000 in which you take out a couple of people at 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.480 the top and it collapses. When it comes to the 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.640 chain of command, then it's more complicated because without a 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.640 chain of command, the military is paralyzed, at least momentarily 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.120 until it can regroup. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:30.760 In the case of. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.800 Hisbola, it never really managed to do so whether that 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.800 will be the case in Yvon or not remains to 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.480 be seen. But we have to keep in mind, if 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:42.800 I'm not mistaken, the number of actual Hebola individuals that 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.160 is or killed in its pager attack was I think 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.480 around four hundred and scores more that were completely innocent 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:54.000 that were either killed or wounded. But that's four hundred 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.360 out of an organization, not an entire state. Here, we're 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.840 talking about ten to twenty people in the chain of command. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.520 Very important ultimately, of course, but the numbers I don't 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.360 think in any way, shape or form get to the 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.240 same numbers that you saw on has bullet case, which 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.040 was necessary in order to paralyze that organization, but at 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.040 a minimum. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:14.199 It will delay it. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:15.640 And I think this is part of the reason why 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.320 we haven't really seen much of an Ivanian response yet, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.440 and perhaps it will prove to be that these Raelis 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.319 were so successful that Yvonians actually cannot fully launch such 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:26.120 a counter attime. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.360 President Trump has seemed to indicate in the true social 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.559 posts that I read that he thinks this will put 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.920 pressure on the Iranians to come to some sort of 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.520 a deal that seems insane to me. You know, I 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.280 think it seems much more likely we end up in 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:48.120 this escalatory spiral. Obviously, the US is already saying they 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.360 will protect Israel, as they have in the past, from 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:56.559 any potential Iranian retaliation. I'm sure the Iranians, as they understandably, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.560 should see US as directly involved, even as you know 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.600 our mis Oh, they did this unilaterally. We had nothing 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:03.960 to do with it. We just knew it was going 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.559 to happen and didn't stand in the way effectively. So 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.760 in any case, what do you make of that rationale 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:17.160 from Trump that this illegal, unprovoked attack on Iran will 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.040 help bring them to the table to effectuate some sort 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.280 of diplomatic deal. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.440 So this is the argument these Raelis have been making too, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:29.560 from saying either you or US or together in this case, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.439 I think it was together attack that will soften the 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.200 Iranian position they will come begging for a deal or 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.040 in this case, begging for capitulation. Essentially, this is also 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.640 what they did in his first administration when they promised 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.080 him that economic sanctions and maximum pressure would be sufficient 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:46.840 to get the Yonians to come begging through a deal, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.560 which of course proved not to be the case this 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.319 time around. If it follows the previous pattern, it will 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.640 see exactly what you just mentioned. It will be an escalation, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.320 the Iranian position will harden. Would probably not be any 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.280 talks this coming Sunday, because one of the elements here 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.440 is that because Trump now is bragging about this and 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.600 really convincing the Runians that Trump not only was in 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.720 on it, Trump played a key role in the deception 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.239 to love the Runians into a false sense of security. 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.559 If that is the case, he engaged in that deception, 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.760 why would the Runians trust him now when he says, 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.480 if you just do X, Y and Z, we can 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.400 have a deal. So that even if Trump's logic is 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.840 that well, this will soften them and that automatically will 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.520 make them come and begging for a deal, it presumes 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.240 that there is a degree of confidence trust in Trump. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.840 But whatever that may have been, because the Varnians were 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.120 at the table, at least there was some elemental trust 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.720 there may have been destroyed precisely because of the manner 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.520 that he is now bragging about having been a key 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.120 part of this deception. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.080 To your point, I mean, this was a post from 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.520 him hours before this strike. He says remain committed to 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.200 a diplomatic resolution to the raw nuclear deal. My hired 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.280 administration has been directed togotiate with Iran. They could be 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.640 a great country. They first must completely give up hopes 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.720 of obtaining a nuclear weapon. Thank you for your attention 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.679 to this matter. So we you know, first saw the 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:14.120 removal of some US personnel from the region, and you know, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.760 had other indications that this strike was imminent. Then the 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.280 Trump administration seemed to downplay it and seemed to indicate that, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.720 you know, we really want to go forward with these talks, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.080 and we're committed to these talks this weekend. Is that 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.400 what you're referring to when you talk about the psychological 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:33.240 deception that the Trump regime was involved with here to 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.480 cover and confuse Iranians in advance of this attack. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.720 I believe. So I believe something changed at this meeting 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:45.480 at Camp David on Sunday in which Trump essentially adopted 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:50.040 the Israeli plan but then continue to talk about diplomacy, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.840 continue to talk about the meeting on Sunday, which I 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.760 think led a lot of people, myself included, thinking that 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.400 if anything would happen, it would happen after Sunday, because 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.960 he had said that he didn't favor and Israeli strike 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.800 talks were ongoing. It made it look as if if 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.080 Nathaniel did strike, it would be an active defiance against Trump, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.640 and while uh Nathaniel would love defying Biden, it got 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.760 no punishment for it. It was a question mark as 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.120 to whether Trump would be forgiving of them if there 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.600 actually was real defiance. But now it seems clear that 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.559 rather this was part of the deception in order to 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.280 make the Vinyans think that nothing would happen before someday, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.160 and that may have taken them by surprise, but even 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.800 then it would it would be some criminal negligence by 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.960 the Iranians in the sense of even if you thought 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.000 an attack was going to come three days later. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.160 It seems like the Vinyance nevertheless, had very little readiness. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.120 What is your understanding of the tug of war that 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.400 has been going on within the Trump administration. You know, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:53.120 he fired Mike Waltz. The public explanation for that was 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:54.720 that or else, at least what was leaked to the 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.280 press was that Waltz was too excited about, you know, 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.800 pulling us into a war and a con with Iran. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.160 So he was turfed. There seems to have been some 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.120 other skirmishes going on between the more hawkish factions and 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.680 the more what you call America First factions who would 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:15.160 be perhaps more object more strenuously to this direction for 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.760 the country. So what is your understanding of what has 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.080 been going on internally and how the tug of war 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.960 ended up in this place of US greenlighting and potentially 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:28.200 being involved with these incredibly escalatory attacks which in some 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.960 ways go I mean, they go against the Trumprian rhetoric 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.400 of him being a pro peace candidate. They don't go 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.280 against some of the direct things he said. He had 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.920 said on the campaign trail, Yes, Israel should strike their 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.600 nuclear facilities, but certainly the projection was, oh, he's going 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.200 to be a pro peace candidate. He's not going to 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.480 get us involved in another Middle Eastern war at the 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.560 very least. So what do you know about that? Behind 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:49.040 the scenes. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.760 I think there has been a real struggle and in 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.320 real fight, and a fight in which those favoring this 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.640 approach actually has been losing out, including of course on Waltz, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.920 but several other people in the NSC as well. But 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.360 what has happened now is a reminder that at the 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.360 end of the day, Trump is himself the decision maker, 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.440 and he may surround himself with more people that have 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.720 a restraint or the end of thinking and may not 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.720 have favored this. They may have argued against it at 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.960 the Camp David meeting, but nevertheless, Trump makes a decision 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.600 and once he makes that decision, all of them go 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.400 along with it, as of course was the case with 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.840 the Biden registration as well. At the end of the 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.600 day was we didn't see any senior people resigning from 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.720 the Biden administration over gods that we saw some mid 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.840 level of people doing so, but none of the people 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.600 that were actually at the decision making table. So I 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.840 do think that there has been a fight. But even 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.000 though that fight was going the direction of the restrainers 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.840 in a very significant way, it didn't make seem to 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.160 matter because once Trump was convinced by the is RAE leads, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.840 that is the decision that is eventually ended up becoming policy. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.880 So what do you think happens now, What is the 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.600 most likely chain of events to occur, and what will 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:03.720 America's involvement be. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.640 So first, it remains to be seen whether the Vonians 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.840 will have the capacity to strike back hard, and if 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.400 they do so, that will change the picture potentially depending 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.880 on how a large that attack is, if they actually 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.200 has an effect. Right now, it does seem, of course, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.440 that Israel is completely dominating the situation, and as a result, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.560 Trump always wants to be on the side of the winner. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.680 It feels even more attractive towards claiming responsibility for what 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.400 has happened now and taking credit for it. 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.720 That may change and it may not change, and that's 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:39.840 one critical element. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.080 The other element, of course, is what happens on Sunday. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:43.640 I don't think there's going to be any talks, but 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.200 I think part of the reason why Trump is tweeting 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.000 these things is essentially because he recognizes there's not going 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.200 to be talked, so he's giving the Vanians warnings publicly. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.920 But again, in order even if capitulation was in the cars, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.360 you needed to have some level of credibility to make 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.560 sure that the other side thought that if they capitulated X, Y, 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.080 and Z that had been promised by Trump would have it. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.119 I think at this point it's going to be very 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.159 difficult to convince in anyone inside the Iranian system that 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.720 anything Trump says actually can be counted on and as 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.960 a result, the likelihood of capitulation is much much smaller, 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.720 which I think is exactly what these Raelis want because 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.040 it means that there will be some sort of an 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.680 ivony response, and then that increases the likelihood that these 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.119 Raelis manage to get Trump to jump in fully and 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.440 open the end of this world. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.880 Lastly, doctor Parson, and then I'll let you go, because 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.399 I know you're very busy today. But how does this 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.520 connect to Israel's genocidal onslaught in Gaza and more broadly 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.640 in Palestine. I know West Bank they've now instituted a 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:47.600 complete siege. They also had a compute complete communications block 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:51.000 out in Gaza. You have a broader regional context as 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.359 well in terms of their aggressive actions in the region. 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:54.960 So how did these things all connect? 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.320 Well, these Radis are going to continue to do that 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.280 until someone stops them. United States has the capacity of 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.680 doing so, and so far under Biden and under Trump 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.240 chosen not to do that. I think what is also 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.679 perhaps missed in all of this is that next week 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.560 there is a big UN mandated conference at the UN 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.920 about the creation of a Palestinian state, led by France 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.800 Emmanuel Macron was supposed to attend, as well as the 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:26.240 Saudi Crown Prince. It remains to be seen whether that conference, 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.840 which many had criticized for various reasons, and there's definitely 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.919 points to criticize, but there's also there was also some 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.320 promise in that conference that things could actually move in 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.680 a new direction because we've been just in this twilight 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.760 zone of a completely dead OsO process but nothing to 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.320 replace it, which then just meant that everyone was stuck. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.199 It had the potential of being able to start a 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.159 new arrangement that could lead to something, but that is 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.080 now going to be completely overshadowed by this new war 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.520 that Israel has started, and remains to be seen whether 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.200 Macron or nbs EMN will show up because this. I'm 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.639 not saying that this was a key calculation of these Raelis, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.160 but one of the side effects is potentially that that 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.080 conference more or less ends up becoming Now. 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.439 Yeah, and I saw Macron putting out some terrible statement 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.040 Israel has a right to defend itself, et cetera, et cetera. 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.280 So not hopeful science there. Ryan. We just have to 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.880 let doctor he could probably get in one question, Ryan, 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:21.760 before doctor Parcy has to run. But he's got to 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:22.360 see an end hit. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.000 He's got to get to okay, just real quickly? Then, Like, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:29.000 was this was this all inevitable? Is this just the 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:34.920 inexorable logic of American empire? Like, despite all the kind 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:40.560 of public pressure towards non interventionism, despite the fact that 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.119 Trump built his political career and his campaign on ending 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.199 wars not starting new ones, is the logic of the 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.719 US foreign policy apparatus just such that this is what 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.800 it is write its face? 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.399 Yeah, Well, I mean there's part of what you say 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.000 that I think I would agree with, but I would 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.600 say that this was inevitable. I think things could have changed, 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.399 evolved in a completely different direction. I think there were 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.720 some significant mistakes that the Trump administration did that put 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:15.360 themselves in a vulnerable position publicly because of the sensitivity 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.359 they had when it comes to comparing the deal they 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.800 were negotiating originally to how the Obama deal looked. And 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.200 I think after that you saw how they started shifting back. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.119 If they had not gone out and said three sixty 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.160 seven in that interview that Witzkop did, I don't think 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.159 that opening for attacking them would have been as clear, 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.280 and as a result, could have shifted in a different direction. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.199 I think there is one element of inevitability not for 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:43.240 this specific scenario, however, is that if we continue on 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:47.880 a grand strategy of global domination, liberal hegemony, then yes, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.760 the United States will end up in wars all over 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.560 the world all the time. That is where we have 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.720 been for the last thirty years. Not One of the 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.639 key things that came with this administration was that there 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.560 were several individuals in it that really directed that ground strategy, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.679 wanted to shift it. But I think what we have 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.320 seen now is that even their presence in the administration, 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:11.040 which was not the case in the previous administration, has 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.040 not made any shift towards a more restrained form pulse. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.680 He's stable. At any moment. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.199 Trump can still change his mind because it's all about Trump. 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.520 Whatever he sees to be is in his benefit, even 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.439 if it completely contradicts what he has said. With the 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.680 instincts of many of the people in the administration is 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.760 ultimately he is a decision maker. So the stability that 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.720 I think many people had hoped would come with many 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:37.480 of these other individuals in the top ranks of the administration. 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:41.040 With the ounceting of Mike walls, etc. Has not materialized. 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.920 Thanks Treda, Doctor Parci, thank you so much to see you. 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:45.960 Appreciate you. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:46.360 Thank you. 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.160 So Ryan. It sounds like doctor Parci is saying basically 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.800 like the oh, so you're just getting back in Obama's 0:21:54.920 --> 0:22:01.720 deal provocation worked, which is so pathetic, Like it's beyond pathetic. 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.359 And I mean, I will say, like to your question 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.840 about was this inevitable, there's a part of me that also, 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.240 you know, feels similarly in a sense, because so much 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.800 of the Trump foreign policy is a continuation of the 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.920 worst aspects of the Biden foreign policy. But the original 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.959 negotiation of the TCGA under the Obama administration would indicate 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.840 that there was a possibility of another path. 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:28.480 And yet you have you. 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.879 Know, Trump decides he's going to get out of it 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.600 just because Obama did it, and so he has to 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:38.879 do the opposite. And his administration, first administration stacked with 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.639 a bunch of news. I mean, there's no dissenting voices 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.280 from that in his first administration. Then you have the 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.240 Biden administration come in. They should have gotten back in 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.760 the deal immediately, and that opening was there, and I 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:53.160 remember doing you know, multiple segments with doctor Parci talking 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.000 about this and the time is now and you yeah, 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:57.959 and there's going to be elections and a more hardline 0:22:57.960 --> 0:22:59.840 administration is it's going to be more difficult to do. 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.320 And then of course once you have October seventh, like 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:03.480 that is dead and gone. 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.919 Because you have two and a half years into the 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:07.840 almost exactly. 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:13.679 Right, absolutely, and so now here we are. So you 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.199 know what I mean, what is your sense of what 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.000 unfold is here? Because it seems like the two pieces 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.600 were they, oh, you're getting back in Obama's nuclear deal 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:26.400 number one and number two. It looks like the Israelis 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:32.280 maybe convinced Trump that this illegal attack would somehow create 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.480 an opportunity for diplomacy in the same way that he 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.080 thought the you know, maximum pressure, like let's just like 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.080 crush them economically as much as possible in the first administration, 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.159 like that would create some possibility that was a failure 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.040 and this is clearly going to be a failure too. 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:46.320 Right. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.520 And on the one hand, it almost doesn't matter like 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:54.200 what rationale Nenyawho was able to use to get him 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.760 to go along with it. It was whatever the argument was, 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:03.360 it worked and it appelled forward the logic of American empire, 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:07.440 and which is to just understand everything in terms of violence. 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:12.960 But it does seem as a matter of historical significance 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.040 that that may be possible. So and I talked about 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:17.959 this on the livestream last night that I had spoken 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.320 with an Iranian analyst who was like, our assessment here 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:26.680 is that somehow who convinced Trump that doing this will 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.920 actually make a deal more likely and better for the US. 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.920 And then it gets out of that called a sack 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.080 that Treeta Parsi talked about. You know, now he can 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:39.720 say he did a better deal. This is not the 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.080 Obama deal. How could it be the Obama deal? He 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.119 just dropped a bunch of bombs where Israel did with 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.760 his green light. And I thought that that was a 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.800 bit of a far fetched analysis when I first heard it. 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.720 But then Rubio's statement which came out saying we were 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:57.520 not you know, we're saying we're not involved in this 0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.760 at all, do not attack us, seem to be trying 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.439 to leave some room open to like continued talks with Iran. 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:09.560 And then Trump's very explicitly says, all right, we hit you, 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:14.320 or Israel hit you with our weapons. All the people 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:19.280 I was dealing with are dead, all caps dead, but 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.120 now you can make a deal and save the rest 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:27.160 of you from not being dead. So it it does 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:31.159 seem like Trump believes that this was a step towards 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.840 a better deal, which is. 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:40.080 Very is interesting. It's demented like it's. 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:44.360 It does it does not, It does not understand uh 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:48.919 the Iranian uh kind of government and how you know, 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.399 how it's positioned like it doesn't. It didn't read the 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.160 you know, his own intelligence assessments, which have always said 0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.639 Iran is not interested and is opposed, like Ron's leadership 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.840 is opposed to pursuing a nuclear weapon for the variety 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.600 of reasons. Here are the reasons. The only way they 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.920 would try to pursue a weapon is if their civilian 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:13.960 nuclear operations are targeted, then we believe then we assess 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.879 this is the US intelligence, Then we assess that they 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.520 would pursue a nuclear weapon. So according to that, I 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:21.960 don't know what's right or not. They were wrong on 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.400 WMD's maybe they're wrong on this, But according to that, 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.040 Iran now will be trying to pursue a nuclear weapon 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:33.840 and the US can just buy, wouldn't they yours? 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.199 They would be in a much better position if they 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.280 had pursued a nuclear weapon instead of getting in the 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.160 deal originally with Obama. I mean, that's the cold, hard 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.359 facts of the matter. That's the incentive structure that the 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.399 US Empire has set up, whether it's a run around 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:52.400 the world. I mean, quite frankly, given Israel's genocidal fervor 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.960 and aggressive illegal actions not only in Iran but throughout 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.800 the entire region, feel more comfortable with Iran having a 0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:04.640 new clear weapon then with Israel. I've mean, yeah, they 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.920 completely unhinged. I would love for you to talk more 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.040 about that because you guys cover this so closely at 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.119 drop site too. I know there's a siege that was 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:12.959 implemented now in the West Bank. I don't know if 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:19.439 Gaza communications are still cut off, but uh, Israel's really 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.920 they're really going for it right now. You know, they're 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.560 really going for final solution with regard to I don't 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.800 thinky even just think just Gaza, with all Palestinians. They're 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.879 going for greater Israel in terms of acquiring territory of 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:38.399 their neighbors. That the you know, hardcore fringe, formerly fringe 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:43.680 elements now mainstream elements, have long coveted and because of 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.159 every American administration allowing them to act with utter and 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:55.920 complete impunity, they've launched this wildly escalatory, reckless attack on Iran. 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.280 And I mean it's it's not a question whether we 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.640 get drawn in, Like we know, if Iran seeks to retaliate, 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.359 which they've already promised to do, we are going to 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.840 be there defending Israel. And Iran has also said that 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.080 they're going to directly retaliate against our service members who 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:12.359 are located throughout the region. 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:14.280 Yeah, it's this short. 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:20.280 Term thinking that they're just one more series of assassinations 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.280 is needed and then yeah, peace and justice will be 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.800 on the other side of that, right, And if you 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:32.280 truly believe that and a type of piece that is domination, 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.160 not we're not talking co existence here like the way 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.600 that you know, you have in say South America for 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.280 the you know, for the most part, those you know, 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.280 little skirmishes here and there, but most part South American 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.240 countries are not lobbing missiles at each other and invading 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:49.920 each other constantly and bombing each other. 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:52.600 That's that's coexistence. 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.720 Israel believes that kind of a piece through domination, you know, 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.000 what they call the piece through piece between the lines 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.000 and in the lamb, that piece that that piece is 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:08.600 just on the other side of this assassination, and then 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.480 the next assassination and the next one and the next one. 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.240 Which then if that logic, if you if you buy 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.640 that logic of killing a few children in the apartment 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:23.400 along with the myer GC general or the know, the 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.280 deputy chief of staff or the nuclear scientists or whoever 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.160 you have just killed. If you kill a few children, 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.480 you know, that's so that's an acceptable cost because on 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:38.920 the other side is this is heavenly like peace and 0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.920 world of peace and justice through domination. But from their perspective, 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.440 And then you know, if you bomb an entire city 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:51.720 block to kill one person and hundreds die, that's also 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.080 an acceptable cost. 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:54.880 It was. 0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.719 Kimmels, who's the first North Who's who's uh uh the 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.240 first North Korean president whatever you want to call him, 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:10.440 Dictator uh had a famous quote where he said, and 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.680 I think he might have been even paraphrasing maw where he's. 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.080 Like, we are. 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:22.320 Building a world of you know, workers paradise for an eternity. 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:23.680 What is it? 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.280 How do you compare if several million people are killed 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.040 to get there? Compare that to the billions of people 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.200 who will be liberated into this worker's paradise that we're creating. 0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.920 So that's the law. That's that's the logic. And and 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.000 from a math if you want to take it from 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.160 a mathematical level, like okay, yeah, if you really are 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.080 going to create a paradise for billions of people for eternity, 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:52.480 then yeah, a few million people dying on the way there. 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.600 Is an acceptable cost to pay. 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.880 Of course, all we ever get is the the few 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:03.080 million people killed, right, And there's the only thing on 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.320 the other side of that is just more suffering and more. 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:11.280 Death and more justification for why this time bullets are 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.560 going to accomplish the goal. And of course with Israel, 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.560 when you add into it, and I mean they use, 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:20.720 you know, biblical language all the time, when you add 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.320 that level, and and you layer on top of that 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.520 the constant posture as eternal victim, which I mean, this 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:29.840 is one of the films they pulled this up on 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.320 the screen. This is one of the things that is 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.720 so disturbing and disgusting to me is the wave of 0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.360 American politicians. Here we have Lindsay Graham as one example, 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.440 game on pray for Israel. Wave of American politicians saying 0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:49.280 pray for Israel after Israel just launched this illegal like 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.440 in any other context, right, if this is Russia, Ukraine, 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:56.440 we immediately okay, unprovoked, illegal attack in you know, as 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.000 long as it's an official bad guy nation of the US. 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.640 We see very clearly the implications of international law. And 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:07.640 yet we're supposed to be praying for the aggressive, genocidal 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:13.880 nation that has just illegally assassinated Iranian you know, political 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:18.400 leadership and scientists while they're at home, you know, with 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.080 their with their kids and with their families. I keep 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:25.440 thinking about the the uh murder of those two Israeli 0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:30.200 embassy staffers here in d C. You know, by the 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.400 Israeli logic, that would be all fine and good, no 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.719 problem there. Look they're they're you know, affiliated with the government, 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.640 so fair, fair game. And of course in that context, 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.600 everyone see this. You can't do. This is not acceptable. 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.440 This is terrorism. But when it's the Israelis who do it, 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.440 it's celebrated. I mean the beeper attack, they celebrate that 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.440 like that was some glorious you know, accomplishment and something 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.240 to be praised and admired. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:56.360 Yeah. 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.840 And to take it even further, if the if the 0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.240 she was on the other foot, not only could you 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:08.680 kill those embassy staffers, if they were surrounded by their grandparents, 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:13.480 their cousins, their friends. Yep, that would just be unfortunate. 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.560 But hey, but it's part of the game to give 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.520 to give a sense of speaking of the depend we. 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.640 Should be praying for the dude who assassinated them. We 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:26.520 should be praying for them. 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:27.880 Yeah, apparently right. 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.640 And so speaking of that, to underline the depravity of 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.560 our of our politics, we put up this one statement 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:40.080 from this congresswoman, a Democratic congresswoman. Yes, I mean, I'm sorry. 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.000 She's the only Iranian American that is in Congress as 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.640 far as I'm almost. 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.160 Certain about that. 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.200 And if you remember, there was this under the radar 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.400 race in Arizona that went down to this based to 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.160 a recount and to court fights, and is a Democratic primary, 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.160 and the the the candidate that was backed by Democratic 0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.600 Majority for Israel, kind of an apac shootout offshoot. She 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.680 got an enormous amount of support from DMFI and beat 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:15.319 a progressive challenger in this primary, and so she won. 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:22.360 So now she's in office. So only Iranian American in Congress. 0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:31.400 He her statement is all about essentially supporting the attack 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:36.840 on Iran. You know, the Islamic Republic must never be 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.160 allowed to acquire nuclear weapons and the current brutal regime 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.160 must be replaced. Iranian people who have suffered far more 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.840 than for more than four decades at the hands of 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.040 the regime deserved democracy and freedom. I do not want 0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.960 to see further regional escalation that could lead to US 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:50.680 military action. 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.200 De escalation, how is imperative. 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.799 I mean, this is the other thing, sorry to cut 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.280 you off. This is the other thing that utterly discussed 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.560 me is these people that posture like are doing the 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:05.480 Iranians of favor, right, but you know, attacking their country, 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.399 embombing their cities and their scientists like. 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:10.239 That. 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.879 I mean that in n Yahoo did the same thing 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.760 in his speech, which I know you and Maz covered 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.400 and went through last night, to posture, Oh this is 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.080 all for your own good. We're going to be greeted 0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.879 as liberators. I mean, that's the that's the energy, that's 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:25.400 the vibe. 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:27.600 Yeah. 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.040 I don't know how much you talked with Treat about it, 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:34.840 but it looks like over seventy killed and you know, 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:39.040 including you know, huge swaths of the top echelon of 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:44.040 the Iranian military and government, the top civilians. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:47.880 Including some of the people who are negotiating with their talks. Yeah, 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.640 which tells you. I mean, they did the same thing 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.640 in the context of, you know, when they were ongoing 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.360 ceasefire talks Israel and make a point of going on 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.400 whoever the top political leadership is, that's right, We're going 0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.640 to go and assassinate them so that these talks can't 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.080 continue to go forward. 0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:02.160 Yeah. 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.960 And according to Trump though, they're gonna go you know, 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.680 no how He's got them right where he wants them. 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:09.360 Yeah. 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.560 Well, the Iranians have already said the talks are off. 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.879 So as if that was any you know, anyone had 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:15.400 an eat. 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.400 Doubt, we didn't. We didn't know. 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.880 We needed to let you know that we're not showing 0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.320 up on Sunday for these talks. 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.680 But most of us have been killed. 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.919 We're dead. Actually yeah, yeah, so we won't be there 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:32.680 because your great ally with your weapons and very likely 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.880 with your assistants, I mean definitely with those systems, like 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.280 who are we kidding? 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.840 Maybe last point for me on this is like I 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.600 meet seagull and these and other you know, Israelis are 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:48.560 out kind of celebrating the cleverness and the strategic brilliance 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:54.600 of this like long running deception. The part that's missing 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:59.000 there is that the United States and Israel do not 0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:04.680 need to to bomb a country like Iran into smitheries. 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:11.680 We have the military capacity to tell them, Hey, Thursday 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:18.960 at eleven thirty Eastern time, we are going to kill 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.239 your nuclear scientists were peculiar. Now, it may may be 0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:28.120 difficult to pull off some of the assassinations with the 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.640 heads up, but in general, the US has the military 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:37.040 capacity to smash Iran like and could do it every 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.399 five years indefinitely, you know, as long as the US 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.440 remains this hegemonic power, which we're doing our best to 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:49.680 shed ourselves of that. But we don't need deception, like 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:50.840 Israel doesn't need deception. 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:51.840 It has. 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.239 A massive firepower advantage over Iran, and especially when the 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.640 US is included, it's just overwhelming. Like this idea that 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.040 like the US and Israel are some kind of plucky 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.680 underdogs that needed to be super clever to defeat this 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.640 gigantic military force is absurd on its face. 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.200 Sager sends a DM that says Tel Aviv confirms their 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:24.600 pride parade today is canceled. So just update there, important 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.560 update there I was looking for. Let me pull up 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.880 this thing that was reposted from jd Vance something he 0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.400 said a year ago, and get your reaction to this. 0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.560 And then, by the way, guys, there's other big news. 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.520 I mean, this is monumental and blows everything else out 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.080 of the water, obviously in terms of US involvement and 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.560 where this all goes from here. There is other significant 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.360 news that we're going to cover as well. This senator 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.640 who was rustled to the ground and handcuffed, and there's 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.279 a court decision with regard to the deployment of the 0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.120 National Guard. So a bunch of other things that we're 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.080 going to get to here as well. But just to 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.399 wrap up on that, ione Er would love to get 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.279 your reflections Ryan on something that jd Vance said a 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.080 year ago. He said, I'm very worried about Israel, worried 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.520 about it as a country because I think what's happened 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.600 the last couple months is revealed deep fishers in Israel's 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.160 support around the world. A more short term worry I 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.480 have with Israel, something analogous to what happened after nine 0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:18.319 to eleven will happen. 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:18.560 Right. 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.439 You get all this bullshitting about how the deep state 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.000 misled Bush about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.520 maybe Bush misled himself, or maybe Cheney misled him. There 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.880 are all these series you read about why we invaded Iraq, 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.520 But when you think back on it, the most important 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.800 reason we invaded i Roq was social psychology. Afghanistan was 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.279 too easy, September eleventh was too bad, and we needed 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.640 to fuck something else up. That was just like this 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.480 need to fuck something else up, and Afghanistan didn't satisfy 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.719 that need. And I worry about that with Israel. I 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.560 think the Hamas thing. Obviously, there are a lot of 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.600 civilians who have died, but Israel expects to lose more 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.279 troops going into this. I think they've had a more 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.279 successful military operation than they expected to. And if I 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.359 have a big fear for Israel right now, it's about 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.600 the same exact dynamic that they're going to need to 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.760 try to fuck something else up because the psychology impact 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.680 of October seventh was so so powerful. And I guess 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.719 what I would say to that. I mean, first of all, 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.040 the fact that you had these JD vans and these 0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.880 supposedly non interventionist voices within the Trump administration didn't end 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.280 up mattering one bit. I think there was a prelude 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.880 to that when we saw inside the signal chats and 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.200 how quickly everyone who was supposed to be in the 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:27.439 non interventionist side just immediately folded. When Stephen Miller comes 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.279 in and is like big guy, says we Mom and 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.319 Yemen and they're like, okay, cool, go America USA. Here's 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.120 my American flag emoji, fifth pound, etc. Like that was 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.759 kind of, you know, an indication of where things are 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.839 going to head. But you know, in a sense, yes, 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.799 Israel has been able to bomb Gaza, to smithereens and 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:50.359 murder God only knows how many civilians. I just saw 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.359 a report yesterday that it maybe four hundred thousand Palestinians 0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.839 and Gaza who were killed by Israel, but there are 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.520 no there is there's no amount of bombs that actually 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.640 solves their problem, like they still Hamas is still there, 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.560 Hamas is still in control. So in a sense, yes, 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.279 they're successful at blowing shit up, but in terms of 0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:17.920 actually you know, creating some sort of lasting peace, they there. 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:19.400 It's an utter, incomplete failure. 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.680 Yes, and I think that Jade Vance's fear is well 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:28.080 founded and born out here. The only thing I would 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.960 add is that if you remember, and some of our 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.680 younger audience won't, but those who lived through it can 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:39.719 never forget the feeling, the blood curdling rage that was 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.360 coursing through the American public after nine to eleven is 0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:47.880 unlike anything that has happened before since. But presumably, you 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.360 know Pearl Harbor, I think if you read people talking 0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.640 about the moments after that that was that was probably 0:41:54.640 --> 0:42:01.520 maybe similar. Yeah, that faded after a period of a 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.959 couple months. Like you kind of remember, the Baltimore Sun 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.200 had an American flag they sent they sent an American 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.200 flag out to everyone in the newspaper and everyone put 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:15.000 the American flag cut out of the newspaper onto their window. 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.719 And as that newspaper was withering, like two months later, 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.120 people were kind of calming back down again, but there 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.239 was still enough energy for the politicians to use it 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.040 to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. But the 0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.719 public blood had moved down to a simmer and then 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:37.120 back to room temperature. Israel's blood is still boiling. All 0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.640 of thee you can read, you can read their posts, 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:45.680 or you can look at any poll and just squint 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.239 at it and be like, I'm sorry, they seventy nine 0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:52.359 percent of people do say they would support what that's 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:56.200 important like, So that's the you know, you know, what 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.080 we were able to accomplish was just a few months 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.399 of blood boiling rage. What hour you know, imperial leaders 0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.960 were able to accomplish imagine if they have gotten that 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.480 boil on the stove for We're now going into the 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:10.920 third you know, we're in the third year of this, 0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.520 so that with no with no end in sight. So 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.319 this is anybody's guess. How that how this ends? 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.520 So before we move on, I mean, how do you 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:27.560 think this ends? Like what happens now? What does this 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:28.000 look like? 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.359 I mean a lot depends on you know what, you know, 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:37.799 how how Iran responds, what and what that response looks like? 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:38.319 Is it. 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:43.479 Do they you know, and how effectively they have been 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:48.520 neutered for now it does? It does seem like it 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:54.280 would heighten Israel's isolation, but a lot could change depending 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.360 on you know what what the Iranian response is. 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:05.080 Yeah, responsible, Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I'm not convinced that 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:09.000 it heightens Israel's isolation. In the short term, because all 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.879 of these Western countries, at least, you know, France, which 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:15.279 had been some of these European countries that had been 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.000 starting to make some noises about being unhappy what was 0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.920 happening in Gaza. You know, France is down immediately with 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:22.960 the Israel has a right to defend itself blah blah 0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.960 blah kind of a statement. So in a sense, because 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.719 Iran is such an official bad guy with Western nations, 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.439 you know, in a sense, I think these attacks shore 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:39.120 up Israel support in the West. You know, certainly with 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.640 the Trump administration, they're all on board with it. You'll 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.880 hear Marjorie Taylor Green will say something, but that'll be 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.920 about it. On the Republican side, mostly Rand Paul, Marjori 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.320 Taylor Green, you get a handful of voices, but mostly 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.279 they're going to be all in for this. They're going 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.320 to be all on board. The Mark Levin talking points 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.680 about how this is amazing and glorious and brilliant and 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:00.719 wonderful and going to be the greatest thing for all 0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.400 of us, even as we hurtle towards you know, potential 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:04.879 massive regional war. 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.920 And the other point Moz made, which is obvious but 0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.840 worth underscoring last night is that Iran is ten times bigger, 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.879 and you know, you know, maybe they you know, uh 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.360 knocked backwards their ballistic missile production, but they're making fifty 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:26.919 missiles a month. They have a stockpile of three thousand. 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.239 A war of attrition between a country that is a 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:34.839 tenth of its size, it isn't necessarily going to go well, 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.000 even if you have long term you know, even if 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.239 you have the United States backing you to the hill 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.920 like long we're a mess, like and we're a mess, 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.880 like how long are we going to keep? Are we 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.960 going to really keep sending endless amounts? We're running out 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.439 of magnatum. I mean, we haven't make our own. 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.160 We can't run our own. 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.400 Make ours we I mean, how is our endless support 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.680 of Ukraine? Has that been enough for them to push 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.520 back Russia? Which is a country that I don't know, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.759 is it ten times? It's probably about similar maths in 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:04.799 terms of you know, size differential. 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.640 China had a delightful time testing all its China arms, 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.200 a lot of the Pakistani military and they had a 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.120 delightful time watching Pakistan, you know, go toe to toe 0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.160 with India, with Chinese weapons. 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.680 Uh. You know, I'm sure China be happy to keep this, 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.240 keep this uh absolutely. 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.360 Running war going for the precise same logic that we 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:33.799 would love to keep the Ukraine War going to tie 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.600 up Russia and drain Instead of draining Russia, we helped, 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:42.520 you know, rebuild their industrial capacity, whereas we actually are 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.200 getting drained because we don't have the capacity to build anything. 0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.759 Yeah, China would love to continue to invest in their 0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:55.320 society and developing research and you know, uh leap frogging. 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.480 Paths and missiles, the high. 0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.960 Tech development and you know, use development for the ice 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.160 that the chart that you shared about how the bottom 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.359 fifty percent in China per capita is actually doing better 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:06.799 than the bottom fifty percent in this country. So they'd 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.120 love to continue in that direction while we get ourselves 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.560 tied up in another Yeah, yet another. 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:16.600 The whole and the whole reason, the whole reason Obama 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.399 wanted to do the peace deal was his He and 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.399 all of like the blob, entire blob in Washington has 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.400 been saying, pivot to Asia, Pivot to Asia, Pivot to Asia, like, 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.919 wrap up this starting wars in the Middle East. It's 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.680 it's bad for us strategically, versus China. China agrees that 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.960 is good for them, bad for us. So we're going 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.320 to wrap that up. We're going to move over focus 0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:43.560 over here. And I guess luckily for Asia that hasn't. 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.680 We haven't been able to educate ourselves because where we 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.400 decide to focus means that's where there's going to be 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:54.920 the most you know, killing and chaos. So, yeah, if 0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.239 I were Asia and I heard that the country that 0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.360 was just focused for the last fifty years on the 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.080 Middle East is now going to focus on us, like, 0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.560 oh boy. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:08.359 Thanks, yeah, new Chinese century, this may seale the deal. 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:14.880 Truly really may seale the deal. Let's go ahead and 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.600 move to the story that would have been the top 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.040 news story and now seems kind of trivial in comparison, 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.560 but still important. We want to cover it, which is 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:27.360 this United States Senator from California, Alex Padia. He's the 0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.200 one he got elected when Diane Feinstein died, Is that right, Ryan, 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.520 That's who, that's where when he gets elected. Yeah, So 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.200 what happens here is he's in la he is in 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.960 the federal building that has been the center of the 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.160 protests and all of the action, and where the national 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.160 guard have been hanging out and all of this sort 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:46.960 of stuff. So he's in the building for a briefing 0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.520 about what is going on there, and he learns that 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.080 a couple doors down, Christinome is giving a press conference. 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.759 So he decides, I'm going to go in and I'm 0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.080 going to watch this press conference, and I'm going to 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.920 try to assert myself and get a question answered, because, 0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:04.480 by the way, I've been trying to get some answers 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.719 from Dajas and they completely stonewall and I don't get 0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:10.920 anything from them. And so a scene unfolds where he 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:16.360 ends up getting forcibly removed by the whatever government thugs 0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.000 happened to be there. I don't have their FBI or 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:21.960 what agency particular they're with, and then wrestle to the 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:26.480 ground and handcuffed. Truly extraordinary scenes. Let me go ahead 0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.240 and play this is the I think this is the 0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.480 fullest video that I've seen, so you can see exactly 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:37.120 what unfolded here. 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.960 Hands up, hands up, I'm Senator Alex could be a 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:45.640 I have questions for the secretary because the fact of 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:51.360 the matter is half a dozen criminals on your on. 0:49:51.440 --> 0:50:06.440 Your on the ground, your back on your back. 0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:21.759 You right behind my back. Flat other other hand, there's 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:27.920 no recording loud. I didn't recording a loud, right, but 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:33.719 what I'm sorry, there's no recording. That's my boss has. 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:36.000 Record. 0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:39.960 I'm not remember there's no recording. I understand that. 0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:45.120 No recording allowed on here by their public press conference, right. 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.440 Outside the press conference. And yeah, I've seen it's that's 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:52.120 it's such a scary, scary footage and it's very it's 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.799 one of these classic police moves where you're giving the guy. 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.640 You're giving the guy contradictory information, and so many people 0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.319 have been killed because one cop is yelling, you know, 0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.720 put your hands up, and the other cop is yelling 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:07.960 don't move, yeah, and you'd come here, come there, and 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.160 the guy doesn't know what to do, and then they 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.479 just shoot him. In this case, they've got him down 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:16.800 on his knees and they're pushing him towards the ground 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.120 and also telling him to put his hands behind his. 0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:21.799 Back, behind his back, right. 0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:25.919 Which would very obviously lead his face to smash into 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.960 the floor, right. And so he says like old on, 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.400 let me let me get like stop, and so he 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.280 puts his hands down. Now they think he's like resisting 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.640 He's like, no, you just that was the only option 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.120 you gave him, and then they man handle him further. 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:40.319 He'd get his hands behind his back. 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.600 Apparently what Crystal, what they said, they they didn't realize 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.279 he was a senator. In the video, you hear him say, 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.520 I'm Senator Alex Padia, and I have a question about 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:52.440 he said violent criminals. 0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:57.400 They said he lunched towards her and did not identify himself. 0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:01.520 And by the way, in the in the post on 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:05.319 Twitter where they say that they included the video and 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.080 in the first two seconds, you hear him say, I'm 0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:12.000 Senator Alexpidihi from California. So I mean, it's just like 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:17.439 they they expect us to just accept their lives even 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:21.960 when they themselves are providing the evidence that their narrative 0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:25.280 of what happened is blatantly false, like in the first 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:29.200 like two seconds of the video is provably false. 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.520 That's become a new phenomenon I've noticed on social media 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:36.360 that and this is these are in government sources that 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:40.120 are doing this. You write, you write a statement and 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:43.480 then the video you put under it contradicts what you 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.560 just wrote and you but it doesn't matter. You're like 0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:50.520 I'm just I'm just gonna say it. Sometimes misquote. 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.040 Assume people won't watch the video, and so they'll just 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.399 take it for granted. I mean, it used to be 0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.080 that they'd at least have the you know, the the 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:04.080 endity to falsely edit out the part that was inconvenient 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.920 for them and like put together some clip mishmash to 0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.080 try to make it seem like it actually happened the 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.640 way they're saying it is. Now that I even bother 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.040 with that. They just lie in the post and just 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.319 hope that you don't actually watch the video, or if 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.600 you do, you're so partisan, brain addled that you can't 0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.280 see through the fact that their post and the video 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:24.000 doesn't line up whatsoever. 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:28.640 Yeah, maybe what they meant was we didn't believe that 0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.480 he was a senator or they did. And this is 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:38.160 what they're doing, Like they don't care, like they they have. 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:42.000 They have a an unpopular agenda that they're that they're 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.759 planning to ram through and you're going to have to 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.000 do that through force. 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.160 Well, and you have already you know, you had the 0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:55.480 sort of chaos that unfolded in Newark when Mayor Ross 0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:59.920 Baraka was there with several members of Congress, and they 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:03.120 they go to the members of Congress were at this 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.080 facility as a federal facility the city, by the way, 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:09.080 re Juxas says, it's not permitted properly, like they're in 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.440 court over the presence of this facility at all. So 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.160 it's disputed. To start with, there's members of Congress who 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.640 are there to provide oversight, which they have the legal 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:18.239 right to do based on a law that was passed 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.200 I think during Trump's first administration. And then the mayor 0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:24.319 is there as well, trying to also gain access. They 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.520 tell him okay, well you can't go in, so he leaves, 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.520 and then they arrest him, and it leads to there's 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:34.560 protesters onside. LA's chaotic scene and now not only they 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.239 arrest him, then ultimately they say we can't really charge you. 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.080 They drop the charges because there's no they're there with 0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:45.200 regard to him, but they've now charged one of the 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:49.120 congresswomen who was there, represided to MacIvor is that her name, Lamonica? 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:53.960 I think that's right, and with charges that could result 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:58.840 in seventeen years in prison. So you know, when you ask, okay, 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.440 well was this intention? Did they just not believe that 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:04.600 he's the United States senator because his skin tone wasn't 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.279 the right hue or for whatever reason. You know, you 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.720 have to think about it in the context of everything 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.799 else that they're doing, which is brazen lee you know, 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:19.240 strong man authoritarian, fascist tactics. You have the National Guard deployed, 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:22.880 you have the freaking Marines deployed, Like this is insanity 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:27.520 for some pretty run of the mill protests that spanned 0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:32.880 a few city blocks. Okay, they're threatening the deployment of 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.720 troops acted duty military troops in cities across the country. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:41.719 True, true, Yeah, shifts and giggles like yeah. 0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:45.400 Trump is throwing himself a birthday party military parade, and 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.360 he says any protesters there will be met with force. 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:54.640 Not violent protesters, not rioters. Protesters will be met with force. So, 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:58.640 you know, if it was a different administration that did 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:00.840 not have all of this track record of things that 0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.640 are happening, I'm just talking about the last week. Those 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.480 are things that all happened this week. If it was 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:09.120 a different administration, maybe because maybe it was a mix up, 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.800 maybe they really didn't think it was a senator. Maybe 0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:14.600 you know, they you know, the FBI or whoever was 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.840 there guarding her. Maybe they really did think that this 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:18.960 was some sort of a public safety threat, even though 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:20.839 again you're inside of a federal building wherever you could 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:24.600 search for weapons before you even go in. Maybe, but 0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:28.840 there is no reason to give these people any benefit 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.520 of the doubt when this is part and parcel and 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:40.120 entirely consistent with the authoritarian strong man tactics that they've 0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:44.040 been deploying again and again and again. I have the 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:49.279 statement from Senator of Padilla, his explanation of what he 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.759 was trying to accomplish and how this all went down. 0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:53.239 Let's go ahead and take a listen to him, and 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:56.160 then I can put up the DHS statement as well 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:57.600 to give their side of the story. 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:03.200 Good After everybody of center out, you guys have some questions, 0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:04.719 I'm going to read a brief statement. I will not 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.560 be taking questions, but allow me to read my statements. 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:12.680 I'm here in Los Angeles today, and I was here 0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:17.200 in the Federal building in the conference room awaiting a 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:23.960 scheduled briefing from federal officials as part of my responsibility 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:32.000 as a senator to provide oversight and accountability. While I 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:38.720 was waiting for the briefing, with General Guillot, I learned 0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:42.840 that Secretary of None was having a press conference a 0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:48.840 couple of words down the hall. Since the beginning of 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.000 the year, but especially over the course of the last 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:57.680 over the course of recent weeks, I several of my 0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:01.360 colleagues have been asking the Apartment of Home od Security 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:06.600 for more information and more answers on their increasingly extreme 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:13.360 immigration enforcement actions. And we've gotten little to no information 0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:20.040 in response to our inquiries. And so I came to 0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.880 the press conference to hear what she had to say, 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:26.240 to see if I could learn any new additional information. 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.240 And at one point I had. 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:33.720 A question, and I'm emphasized, just as we emphasized the 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:38.120 right for people to peacefully protest and to stand up 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:42.600 for their First Amendment rights, for our fundamental rights. I 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.440 was there peacefully. At one point I had a question, 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:50.760 and so I began to ask a question. I was 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:55.960 almost immediately forcibly removed from the room. I was forced 0:58:56.000 --> 0:59:02.320 to the ground, and I was handcuffed. I was not arrested, 0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:09.720 I was not detained. I will say this, if this 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:15.040 is how this administration responds to a senator with a question, 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:19.160 If this is how the Department of Homeland Security responds 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:25.560 to a senator with a question, you can only imagine what. 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:32.160 They're doing to farm workers, to cooks, to day labors 0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:36.440 out in the Los Angeles community and throughout California and 0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:38.120 throughout the country. 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:48.080 We will hold this administration accountable and we'll have more 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.720 to say. We'll have more to say in the coming days. 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.320 I think that last point is the most important one, Ryan, Like, 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:58.640 if this is how you're treating the US senator, just 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:04.800 imagine if you're a defenseless, nobody farm worker, dai labor mom, 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.120 student who dares to ride it up at like, just 1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:11.560 imagine the way that people who don't have the ability 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:13.760 to go in front of a camera and tell their story. 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:15.720 Just imagine how they're being treated. 1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:22.840 Yeah, it's it's really well said. And you know, we 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:26.400 don't have to totally imagine. There are the reports that 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:31.520 are coming out of the way that migrants and attention 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:32.640 are being treated. 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:38.080 Well, and some of it is Apparently even Trump felt 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:41.640 the need to put on a statement saying like Steven 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.840 m's going too far effectively, although he then quickly walked that. 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:45.880 Back, right. 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:49.240 You know, he was saying yes because it was going 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:53.680 after the farm workers and hotel employees. 1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:56.040 And you know, I. 1:00:55.960 --> 1:01:00.720 Think Trump probably if you act, actually got him in 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:06.640 an honest moment, doesn't have a problem with does doesn't 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:08.800 want to round up everybody that works on farms and 1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:14.240 in hotels. I think that's probably pretty obvious. I think 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:17.360 probably most of his you know, probably a lot of 1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:21.280 workers at his properties would get round up. 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:22.360 Yep. 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:26.760 So that seemed more like an honest moment, whereas the 1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:28.680 rest of it is kind of dishonest. But yeah, at 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.920 the conditions that they're keeping people in no food, no 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:35.200 water for long stretches, very very long stretches, keeping people 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:36.080 in pitch dark. 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:40.000 That's part of what sparked these protests. They were keeping 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:42.680 in the federal building in the basement. They were holding 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:46.040 immigrants that they that they detain, including you know, families 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:49.320 with limited in spaces that are not meant to be 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:55.400 you know, detention facilities, so very limited food, limited water, light, 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:58.080 pitch black. Lights went off I think at five pm, 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:00.320 and then you're just sitting there and pitch black. They're 1:02:00.360 --> 1:02:04.520 talking about family kids. I mean, yeah, that was part 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:09.560 of what sparked the protests in LA to begin with that, 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:12.760 and then the you know, the roundups at home depot 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:16.280 and this one garment manufacturer as well were what kicked 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:18.720 off these protests. And then, according to the reporting from 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:23.280 the LA Times, protests start off, you know, just obviously 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:26.360 upset but peaceful, and then the cops start throwing you know, 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:28.960 spring to your gas and throwing flash bang grenades, and 1:02:28.960 --> 1:02:32.720 that's when you know, the more violent behavior kicks off. 1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:35.960 This is often the case started by the cops. I 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:39.480 wanted to show you this is the DHS statement that 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:43.520 we're referring to before center of Padilla shows disrespectful political 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:47.040 theater again, Christy, No, I'm talking about political theater. Be 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:50.240 so for real right now anyway, and interrupted a live 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:53.200 press conference without identifying himself. That's the part that's like 1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:56.720 in this video right here he identifies himself or having 1:02:56.760 --> 1:02:59.640 a Senate Security pin on. As he lunged towards Secretary 1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:02.960 Nome Padia was told repeatedly to back away, did not 1:03:03.040 --> 1:03:06.120 comply with officers repeated commands. That gets to what you 1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:08.440 were saying, Ryan about how they give these conflicting commands, 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:10.800 that that's impossible to comply with. Secret Service thought he 1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:14.640 was an attacker. Officers acted appropriately. Secretary of Noam met 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:17.800 with Senator Padea after and held a fifteen minute meeting. 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:21.800 And you know, it's interesting, like I think that this 1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:24.240 is I think the footage is very disturbing. I think 1:03:24.280 --> 1:03:26.600 people should be upset and disturbed by it. It's also 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:31.520 interesting Ryan the things that really get to democratic elected officials. 1:03:32.320 --> 1:03:38.360 They've been kind of quiet about the military being unleashed 1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:43.200 against US citizens in LA. They've been kind of quiet 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:48.840 about Trump green lighting Israel starting World War three. They 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:52.400 have not been quiet about one of their colleagues getting 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.440 arrested in this manner. And again, I don't want to 1:03:54.480 --> 1:03:57.000 downplay it, but it is just interesting to me that 1:03:57.120 --> 1:03:59.600 suddenly this is the thing that they were like, oh shit, 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:01.920 this hits close to home. They did a you know, 1:04:02.000 --> 1:04:05.240 they I think Schumer immediately, you know, made some statement 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:09.040 on the floor. They did a march to Senatra Foon's office. 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:12.959 They've you know, certainly all been putting out statements, et cetera. 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:15.760 Like they are very exercised. They're getting up off their 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:16.760 asses for this one. 1:04:17.400 --> 1:04:20.480 And as Dave Dan pointed out, when Schumer took to 1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:22.880 the floor and asked unanimous consent for a moment to 1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:27.160 make to make that comment. What he was interrupting was 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:32.480 a bipartisan you know, uh tongue bath for the crypto 1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:38.640 industry's like Schumer was in the middle of empowering all 1:04:38.720 --> 1:04:42.680 of the crypto allies of the Trump administration when he 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:45.960 when he took a moment to condemn them for man 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:47.320 handling Padilla. 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:50.920 Two perfect too perfect and crypto speech over. 1:04:51.000 --> 1:04:52.520 We can go back to the crypto. 1:04:53.160 --> 1:04:57.200 Right, I go back over to like letting scammers fleece 1:04:57.240 --> 1:04:59.840 the American people and enrich are correct in the white 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:03.400 and to destabilize the global financial system. Let's get back 1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:06.720 to that bipartisan work that we were doing previously. Yeah, 1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:11.800 so it says a lot, doesn't it. Yeah, let me 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:18.600 go ahead and show you this piece which is so understandably, 1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:20.720 most of the attention is focused on the DIA, what 1:05:20.800 --> 1:05:23.400 he's doing, the arrests, you know, and being rustled to 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:25.480 the ground, et cetera, by the way, charge him or anything. 1:05:25.520 --> 1:05:27.880 So that's good at least, which I would not have 1:05:27.920 --> 1:05:30.800 put past them whatsoever. I guess even they realized that 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:34.680 might be a bridge too far. But it's worth taking 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:38.960 a listen to what Christy Noam was actually saying in 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:41.800 that press conference. So let me go ahead and pull 1:05:41.840 --> 1:05:43.800 this up. I'll read the caption and we can actually 1:05:43.840 --> 1:05:47.880 play the sound as well. But this person, Jason Kirk, 1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:51.280 is pointing out before they dragged out Padilla, Noam said, 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:56.400 we are staying here in La to liberate the city 1:05:56.520 --> 1:05:59.800 from the socialists and the burden some leadership that the 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:02.960 guy and this mayor have placed on this country. And 1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:06.920 he opines accurately, so sounds close to declaring a regime 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:09.760 change attempt on millions of Americans here. You can go 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:12.280 ahead and listen to her deliver those lines. 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:15.400 Dane, and increase our operations in this city. We are 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.560 not going away. We are staying here to liberate the 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:25.200 city from the socialist and the burdensome leadership that this 1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:28.200 governor and that this mayor have placed on this country 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:30.520 and what they have tried to insert. 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:31.120 Into this city. 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:34.480 So I want to say thank you to every single 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:36.840 person that has been able to do this. 1:06:37.720 --> 1:06:40.680 Also I want to talk, so there you go. That's 1:06:40.720 --> 1:06:43.440 the moment she's interrupted is when she's announcing effectively a 1:06:43.480 --> 1:06:46.600 regime change operation in La, which, as far as I know, 1:06:46.680 --> 1:06:48.760 I mean, this has been quiet for a couple of days. 1:06:48.800 --> 1:06:51.720 Now they don't even have enough like they're there to 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:54.520 get their riot porn images to play on a loop 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:56.760 and Fox News, which is why I guess they were 1:06:56.760 --> 1:06:59.920 playing these images from Las Vegas which were just protesters 1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:02.160 like standing there facing off with the cops. 1:07:03.320 --> 1:07:08.040 Yeah, it's interesting that they aren't aren't even getting kind 1:07:08.080 --> 1:07:12.000 of the war that they wanted the right they see, 1:07:12.040 --> 1:07:16.760 they provoked some you know way mow car burning, sent 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:19.320 in the National Guard, then then sent in the Marines. 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:22.480 I think hoping that they would get like another George 1:07:22.480 --> 1:07:26.200 Floyd uh moment where you know, people pour out into 1:07:26.240 --> 1:07:31.280 the streets of every city and like they're not you know, 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:34.480 they're going to be continue to be protest, but they're 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:38.600 not getting And maybe maybe it's so transparent that that 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:41.760 it's what they want that a lot of people are 1:07:41.840 --> 1:07:44.480 just like, I'm not gonna I'm not going to give 1:07:44.480 --> 1:07:46.840 you what you want. 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:51.760 What do you think of We've got these no Kings, 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:56.520 no King protests that are happening, uh this weekend. These 1:07:56.520 --> 1:07:59.880 were pre planned Trump, as I referenced before, said protest, 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:03.120 any protesters of his military parade are going to be 1:08:03.160 --> 1:08:06.400 met with force. Uh you know, what do you what 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:07.920 do you expect unfold there. What do you think the 1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:09.840 significance is. I have to say, I think the branding 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:14.880 is good, like fits with certainly, Yeah, fits with the 1:08:14.880 --> 1:08:18.120 moment certainly, and plays into like you know, there was 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:20.320 all this criticism of like the Mexican flags. This is 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:24.360 a deeply American sentiment. Listen, this is America. We don't 1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:27.799 have kings. So I think everybody can give them the 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:32.040 the opjects seal of approval on this one. 1:08:32.840 --> 1:08:34.280 And they're not going to be in Washington, d C. 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:39.360 You know, some some people may organically protest Trump's it's 1:08:39.400 --> 1:08:43.479 like a two block parade that he's having. But in general, 1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:46.280 the protests, the process organizers have said, let's, you know, 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:48.280 protest everywhere except. 1:08:48.000 --> 1:08:48.640 Washington, d C. 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:53.160 They don't want, you know, they don't want the conflict 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:54.519 with the military there. 1:08:56.680 --> 1:08:58.400 It could be it could be quite. 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:03.720 Large, you know. I you know, if you know, if 1:09:03.760 --> 1:09:06.360 you're watching this video, let us know down in the comments, 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:10.000 like but if you're going But I my sense is 1:09:10.040 --> 1:09:13.960 that you could get enormous numbers of people coming out 1:09:14.040 --> 1:09:14.639 in the streets. 1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:19.200 I mean, the Trump administration is certainly giving them lots 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:23.000 of incentive to go out right now just in this week, 1:09:23.120 --> 1:09:27.160 you know, provoking a large and emotional response, understandably, So 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:30.559 I thought this was interesting. You know, in terms of 1:09:30.680 --> 1:09:35.040 the polling that we've seen so far, we've got a 1:09:35.240 --> 1:09:38.519 Washington Post pull on immigration enforcement. Let me put this 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:40.439 up on the screen. I also saw when we would 1:09:40.439 --> 1:09:42.519 put up in just a second about the way the 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:46.479 like places where his approval rating have declined the times 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:49.640 during his administration. So you've got de approve of the 1:09:49.640 --> 1:09:54.080 trumpet how Trump is handling immigration enforcement, including deportations. According 1:09:54.160 --> 1:09:56.080 to this bowl, take it for what it is worth, 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:59.080 disapprove is now fifty two percent. So even on this 1:09:59.120 --> 1:10:02.080 issue that's supposed to be his best issue, fifty two 1:10:02.120 --> 1:10:05.479 percent disapproved, thirty seven percent approve, and twelve percent are unsure. 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.000 Do you support or oppose the protest in LA against 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:11.400 federal government's immigration enforcement opposes forty percent, Support is thirty 1:10:11.479 --> 1:10:17.800 nine percent, pretty you know, much along partisan lines oftentimes, Ryan, 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.559 I feel like people don't like protesters, even when they 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:21.639 support the things that they. 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:27.080 Are protests, especially if they especially if they see cars burning, right, yeah, 1:10:27.200 --> 1:10:29.200 once they see flames, people are like, eh. 1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:33.800 I'm out, yeah, completely, let me just hold on, Let 1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:35.840 me give me a second and let me pull up 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:38.360 this other poll that I just saw this morning. Someone 1:10:38.400 --> 1:10:43.639 had marked up where Trump's approval rating had fallen off 1:10:44.280 --> 1:10:48.040 most quickly, and it was like, here we go. It 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:53.320 was like when the Trump administration defied the court on 1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:59.240 Kilmara Brego Garcia. And right now there's been a significant 1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:01.559 decline over the past last week. So you've got the 1:11:01.560 --> 1:11:04.840 Trump administration defies Supreme Court on a Brego Garcia. You 1:11:04.880 --> 1:11:10.519 can see that his approval, you know, is, let's see 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:13.640 approval declines, and then he was actually building back up 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:17.479 here and then he deploys the National Guard in Los 1:11:17.479 --> 1:11:23.439 Angeles and it falls again. Now you know, you could say, Okay, 1:11:23.479 --> 1:11:26.599 maybe these polls are maybe there's not enough polling, maybe 1:11:26.600 --> 1:11:30.320 these poles aren't correct, etc. But I've seen enough at 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:33.439 this point, certainly on the kilmar A Brego Garcia piece, Ryan, 1:11:33.760 --> 1:11:36.400 that I am quite convinced that fight was really bad 1:11:36.400 --> 1:11:38.639 for the Trump administration. And I think we know that, 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:42.679 especially at this point, because he backed down and brought 1:11:42.760 --> 1:11:45.200 him back and realized that between the court pressure and 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:47.760 the public pressure, this was not going well for him. 1:11:48.160 --> 1:11:50.880 And I think you see some similar indications of that 1:11:51.280 --> 1:11:55.160 with regard to the deploying of the National Guard in 1:11:55.360 --> 1:11:57.200 la I mean, first of all, like you said, he's 1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:59.559 not getting the scenes that he wanted out of that 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:02.240 and thought be so great. But the fact that he 1:12:02.320 --> 1:12:05.160 put out that post yesterday, which I can pull up 1:12:05.160 --> 1:12:07.479 here in a second, where he's basically like, oh, we 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.479 don't want hard working people being pulled down of the 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:12.600 country or sent out of the country, and the you know, 1:12:12.640 --> 1:12:15.000 for the farmers and for the hotel workers, et cetera. 1:12:15.479 --> 1:12:17.479 That also was an indication to me that he did 1:12:17.479 --> 1:12:23.040 not feel like this aggressive, visible crackdown that Stephen Miller 1:12:23.080 --> 1:12:25.600 demanded where he said, stop going after the criminals and 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:27.760 go to the home depots in the seven eleven, that 1:12:27.840 --> 1:12:29.840 he didn't feel like the optics of this were working 1:12:29.920 --> 1:12:32.400 out for him in the way that Stephen Miller had projected. 1:12:33.720 --> 1:12:36.719 Right, He's he and Steven Miller are different. Stephen Miller 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:41.840 is a revolutionary who has an ideological vision for the 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:45.919 revolution that he's trying to carry out. Yeah, it's exactly 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:47.960 what Trump says, right. 1:12:48.040 --> 1:12:51.280 I mean, Stephen Miller is a white nationalist. He thinks 1:12:51.320 --> 1:12:56.280 that anyone is brown, you're illegitimately and not just by 1:12:56.320 --> 1:12:59.559 the way, undocumented immigrants, Like, that's what all of these 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:05.000 efforts to rescind legal status to hundreds of thousands of immigrants, 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:09.120 that's what that's about. So it's not about illegal immigrants. 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:12.960 They're taking legal immigrants and making them illegal so they 1:13:12.960 --> 1:13:16.240 can have pretext to support as many people as possible. 1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:19.479 And then you also had you know, this strange I 1:13:19.479 --> 1:13:21.559 guess not that strange moment from a bunch of right 1:13:21.600 --> 1:13:24.040 wing influencers like Charlie Kirk and I think is Jack 1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:26.240 Pisoba and a camera. There's one other where they all 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:28.639 started putting out the same message about how we need 1:13:28.920 --> 1:13:32.960 zero migration in from what they described as third world countries, 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:36.720 like just making it as plain as possible that you know, 1:13:37.120 --> 1:13:40.320 we want a white ethno state, and so if you 1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:43.240 come from a country where we deem you know, the 1:13:43.280 --> 1:13:47.000 melanin shade to not be correct, then you are no 1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:48.400 longer allowed to come here. 1:13:49.200 --> 1:13:51.639 Right, And we need to double the number of medical 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:55.360 schools and nursing schools, which we should do anyway, but 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:56.479 they have no plan to do that. 1:13:57.439 --> 1:14:00.320 No, of course, not yeah, of course not yeah, what 1:14:00.360 --> 1:14:03.360 did you I mean, what did you have that same 1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:06.280 political read of the Trump Post, and then he also 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:09.240 made some comments about the farmers and the hotel workers 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:12.040 that he sort of felt like, this isn't really going 1:14:12.080 --> 1:14:15.559 that great because the polling. Also, if you ask people, Okay, 1:14:15.640 --> 1:14:18.840 do you want to deport violent criminals, They're like absolutely. 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:21.559 If you ask them, do you want to deport day 1:14:21.640 --> 1:14:24.080 laborers at home depot who have been here for years 1:14:24.120 --> 1:14:28.160 and have no criminal record, it is overwhelming the level 1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:31.000 of opposition. I'm talking like seventy five percent or like 1:14:31.280 --> 1:14:32.439 why the hell would you do that? 1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:36.599 Yeah, And I think not just that Trump's to Trump's credit, 1:14:36.800 --> 1:14:40.320 he is always on the phone, like he and he's 1:14:40.360 --> 1:14:43.240 and talks to not just on the and not just 1:14:43.280 --> 1:14:46.719 with rich people. It's usually rich people on the phone, 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:51.360 but you know, he authentically talks to a lot of 1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:53.240 people as he goes around the world, like it's one 1:14:53.280 --> 1:14:57.040 of it's his effort to stay you know, in touch 1:14:57.120 --> 1:15:00.880 with public opinion. And I'm sure that he was hearing 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:05.439 from you know, farm you know, owners of large farms, 1:15:05.520 --> 1:15:09.759 ranch owners like others who and other you know, hotel 1:15:09.840 --> 1:15:14.200 types who were like having their businesses ruined by ice. 1:15:15.200 --> 1:15:17.760 And also and it's not just that, like the the 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:22.200 level of fear that they have struck into the immigrant 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:31.040 community is off the charts, like it's which is intentional, 1:15:31.439 --> 1:15:33.240 but it means that even if you don't get an 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:35.320 Ice RAYD, you just have a lot of people just 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:43.000 like not showing up right, showing up less. I'm sure 1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:46.320 that some non trivial number are are self deporting. 1:15:47.320 --> 1:15:47.439 Uh. 1:15:47.600 --> 1:15:55.320 And so people who rely on those workers aren't are 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:59.840 then calling Trump and saying, bro, like what are you doing? 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:04.160 And from Trusper scifety, he's liked Stephen were doing? Man, 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:07.400 what about the criminals? Like, you know, they ran for 1:16:07.520 --> 1:16:12.360 years on how many murderers and rapists are running free? 1:16:12.560 --> 1:16:14.720 And you know it's embarrassing to them that they can't 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:18.479 find them because because they manufactured. 1:16:17.880 --> 1:16:18.639 Them, because they don't. 1:16:18.720 --> 1:16:20.759 It's a storyline right right. 1:16:21.360 --> 1:16:23.720 And I think that's a big part of why they 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:27.559 want this show of force, like rolling up with in 1:16:27.600 --> 1:16:31.799 a military you know, vehicle with a whole pay LANX, 1:16:31.920 --> 1:16:36.280 partly of militarized officers, partly plain clothes ice thugs with 1:16:36.320 --> 1:16:39.080 their face covered. Because if you have that level of 1:16:39.120 --> 1:16:41.800 show of force, it makes it feel like you're apprehending 1:16:41.840 --> 1:16:44.519 a criminal, even when you're just going after some guy 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:48.080 who rises some flyers, as was the case in one instance, 1:16:48.280 --> 1:16:50.960 or you know, a dad who has no criminal record, 1:16:51.080 --> 1:16:54.320 or people even who've been doing exactly what they were 1:16:54.320 --> 1:16:58.000 supposed to do and going through the asylum process. But 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:01.360 if you roll in with that kind of equipment, people 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:03.400 just sort of assume like, oh, well, they must be 1:17:03.760 --> 1:17:07.160 going after some real super bad guy, violent criminal if 1:17:07.160 --> 1:17:08.960 you're coming in with that kind of you know, that 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:12.559 kind of equipment and that kind of approach, using all 1:17:12.600 --> 1:17:16.679 these resources to go after just some random like mom 1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:19.880 who's not done anything wrong. But we know that's the 1:17:19.920 --> 1:17:22.360 case because we know when they sent they use military 1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:26.599 planes to fly migrants down to Guantanamo Bay, they had 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:28.800 no criminal record. 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