Speaker 1: On this episode of This League, we talk about Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant's wild Friday Night on Twitter, Kyrie's new beef with
Speaker 1: an Internet comedian, Tom Thibodeau's notebook like romance with Derrick Rose,
Speaker 1: and we also have a ton of listener dms, so
Speaker 1: we'll hit those hard too. Without further ado, I don't
Speaker 1: say this lightly at all, but Friday, one of the
Speaker 1: craziest things in the NBA happened. One of the craziest
Speaker 1: things that I've ever seen in the NBA happen. This
Speaker 1: is a season where we don't know thirty minutes before
Speaker 1: tip of a game is actually gonna even happen. This
Speaker 1: is this is a season where we don't know if
Speaker 1: players are gonna have COVID at any given time. We
Speaker 1: got to witness in this season something that we've never
Speaker 1: seen before. And of all places, Marty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brooklyn, Yeah, I mean we are at Brooklyn nets Pod.
Speaker 1: Remember exactly exactly. It's perfect. So KD, poor KD continue
Speaker 1: to get snake bitten by COVID protocols, Adam Silver's insistence
Speaker 1: to continue to move the goalposts, and I think Katie's
Speaker 1: had enough. So this is what happened. KD was one
Speaker 1: of the first people. I don't know if you remember this, Marty,
Speaker 1: but KD was one of the first people to get
Speaker 1: COVID in the NBA March of twenty twenty COVID March seventeenth,
Speaker 1: he told Shams he tests positive. At that point, there
Speaker 1: were only fifteen confirmed cases of COVID, so okay, so
Speaker 1: we know that there is in some universe that maybe
Speaker 1: Kd's immune, maybe he's not immune to COVID, which makes
Speaker 1: this whole scenario a little more bizarre to me. So
Speaker 1: this season rolls around in Boom January fourth, he has
Speaker 1: a close contact with someone with COVID and he's forced
Speaker 1: to miss a week seven days, didn't have COVID, never
Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID, just out of an abundance of caution,
Speaker 1: he had to sit out three games. And all of
Speaker 1: that to me made sense at the time because the
Speaker 1: league was really making sure that they were cautious. They
Speaker 1: are trying to be careful in a pandemic, after all.
Speaker 1: And then since then, the NBA is sort of made
Speaker 1: a decision that they don't really care as much, clearly
Speaker 1: drawing lines in the sand that money like Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 1: said is much more important than safety. They're all over
Speaker 1: the place in terms of when games are gonna get postponed,
Speaker 1: when players get held out, when they're allowed to suit up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's been a real mess as of late,
Speaker 2: how they've been handling things.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is messy. This is the girl that
Speaker 1: gets drunk at the party throws up all over the
Speaker 1: frat party messy. And then Friday night it got a
Speaker 1: whole lot worse in my opinion, that the NBA finally
Speaker 1: showed that they have zero idea what they're doing, no idea,
Speaker 1: utterly completely clueless. Twenty five minutes before game time, this
Speaker 1: is what happened. The news came down. KD is going
Speaker 1: to be a last minute scratch due to COVID protocols. Again,
Speaker 1: even though the man tested negative three times out of
Speaker 1: an abundance of caution, he's not gonna play. Then, four
Speaker 1: minutes before game time, KD was sitting on the next
Speaker 1: bench and you're like, what's going on. Then he enters
Speaker 1: the game as a reserve for the first time in
Speaker 1: his eight hundred and sixty seven game career. Doesn't start insane.
Speaker 1: Then midway through the third quarter, he gets a foul
Speaker 1: and they're disputing whether he has a foul or not,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the Sandman comes and
Speaker 1: drags KD off the floor, like okay, because that inconclusive
Speaker 1: test from another close contact came back positive midway through
Speaker 1: the game. So let's recap. Durant has already had COVID
Speaker 1: and recovered from COVID. Has anybody's has returned two negative
Speaker 1: PCR tests, which are the accurate ones. But someone the
Speaker 1: net Star had interacted with had COVID, And so even
Speaker 1: though he's been with his teammates all game, he has
Speaker 1: to leave. And of course, obviously in that chaos, they lost.
Speaker 1: So I think, right now, Katie's had enough. And when
Speaker 1: he got taken out, he decided to come at the
Speaker 1: NBA on Twitter in perfect Katie fashion, and I'm not
Speaker 1: even talking about using his burner. I had to look
Speaker 1: at dates. I had to look multiple times to see
Speaker 1: if it was correct. I think. I came up to
Speaker 1: you and I was like, this is this is from
Speaker 1: right now, right, this is him tweeting, live tweeting the game.
Speaker 1: He's literally live tweeting the nets game free.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he tweeted, yo, NBA, your fans aren't
Speaker 2: dumb with a bunch of exclamation points. You can't fool
Speaker 2: them with your whack ass PR tactics. Hashtag free seven
Speaker 2: free seven.
Speaker 1: I love that. So what does that mean? It means
Speaker 1: that Kevin Durant is smart enough to know that the
Speaker 1: NBA does not give a fuck about COVID. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're pulling me after sitting with my teammates all night
Speaker 1: just for the look. You do not know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: All you care about is the perception. That's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: All you care about is your whack ass PR tactics.
Speaker 1: You just want the perception that you care about player
Speaker 1: safety when you do not. And then shockingly KD was mad,
Speaker 1: His teammates were mad, and James Harden said this postgame.
Speaker 1: They said it was just contact tracing. I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: if it's contact tracing, then we were all in the
Speaker 1: locker room together. That means that there's no game if
Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to play. That was
Speaker 1: my thought process, Marty, That's anel that just plainly should
Speaker 1: not have happened. Yeah, and there are lots of reasons
Speaker 1: that you can blame the NETS for taking else to
Speaker 1: inferior teams like Steve Nash and his trash ass rotations
Speaker 1: that he makes. But but like this night, this is
Speaker 1: not on the Nets. This is on Adam Silver in
Speaker 1: the league one hundred percent. Once the ball tips, you
Speaker 1: can't pull your marquee player in the middle of the game.
Speaker 1: Like he's already out there. Yeah, he's already been sweating
Speaker 1: and sitting with his teammates. He was never removed from
Speaker 1: his team to begin with. He's been side by side
Speaker 1: with them for hours. Now what do you think this
Speaker 1: other fifteen minutes is gonna do? Like it's it's just dumbfounding.
Speaker 1: Tyler Harrow had the same exact same thing happened to
Speaker 1: him a couple of weeks ago. His roommate tested positive,
Speaker 1: nothing happened, he got to play no games postponed. This
Speaker 1: is insane, fucked. So now the Nets are going to
Speaker 1: have to miss the centerpiece of their offense for multiple
Speaker 1: games because he's got a quarantine for seven days. He
Speaker 1: misses the Pistons game and the Pacers game, so they'll
Speaker 1: probably lose. I mean they'll probably lose both of those
Speaker 1: the way the Pistons are playing. So here's here's the
Speaker 1: bottom line. It's it's this is not good. This is
Speaker 1: not I don't consider this a part of that. This
Speaker 1: is a dysfunctional organization thing. This is a dysfunctional We've
Speaker 1: got a dysfunctional league on our hands. The Nets have
Speaker 1: already been in chaos. Their Big three is not meshing.
Speaker 1: In the best of circumstances, the Nets have only had
Speaker 1: five games with Harden, Kyrie, and Katie together out of
Speaker 1: a total of twelve With Durant gone. This week, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have fourteen games without one of their big three.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they miss two out of those three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, over a quarter of a seventy two game season
Speaker 2: without one of their stars on the floor.
Speaker 1: Like, it's crazy. I mean, I would say that's meaningful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say that's a meaningful stat So, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say that the league pulling this fuckery on the
Speaker 1: Nets is definitely not the same as shutting down a
Speaker 1: team like the Washington Wizards for a month. You've got
Speaker 1: a team that's a contender. There's a top four team
Speaker 1: in the league. KD is the league's most marketable player,
Speaker 1: top two player in the league, and he is just
Speaker 1: getting completely fucked by Adam Silver in the league. This
Speaker 1: is just not what you hope for if you were
Speaker 1: the Nets who mortgaged your future for James Harden. Just
Speaker 1: not Like, despite what Steven Asmith says, this team is
Speaker 1: not a lock to go to the finals. This team
Speaker 1: is not a lock to do anything besides just make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm sorry, Nets fans, that's the truth. So
Speaker 1: let's just recap. Kdie sits for seven days now due
Speaker 1: to a close contact. But every maskless player that shared
Speaker 1: the court with him in warm ups and on the
Speaker 1: bench and on the court is good to go. Fine,
Speaker 1: nothing happens, No Raptors games postponed, no Nets games postponed.
Speaker 1: But KD can't play for a week. Like, aren't they
Speaker 1: the close contact to the close contact those teammates, Like
Speaker 1: if he potentially has COVID, don't they potentially have COVID?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It makes sense.
Speaker 1: I wonder to myself what the league is gonna do
Speaker 1: when a close contact of an All Star tests positive
Speaker 1: the week of February fourteenth. Huh, I wonder. I hope
Speaker 1: it happens. Let's stay tuned. This league still mad about Katie?
Speaker 1: How bad do you have to fuck up? For the
Speaker 1: entire Internet? To take the side of Kyrie Irving. Think
Speaker 1: about that, the entire Internet hates Kyrie Irving and yet
Speaker 1: they all defended him. That's that's crazy for a variety
Speaker 1: of reasons too. You've got Boston Celtics fans that hate him.
Speaker 1: You've got lebron stands that hate him, Blue Lives Slash,
Speaker 1: All Lives Matter certainly hate him. Steve Nash fans like you,
Speaker 1: Marty hate him.
Speaker 2: Facts you hate him, Yep.
Speaker 1: Geographers hate him. People who know in their heart of
Speaker 1: hearts that the earth is round hate him. Just likes
Speaker 1: people who care about the truth hate him. All of
Speaker 1: them came to Kyrie's defense, all of them because why
Speaker 1: Because a basketball comedian on the Internet name Max's Nice
Speaker 1: decided he was about to get some get mean. So
Speaker 1: Max's Nice made a spoof video making fun of Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving burning stage. Did you see this? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: saw it, and I thought it was funny at the
Speaker 1: time I did. It was like KD and Kyrie b
Speaker 1: like and then He's got Sage and Sage the burning
Speaker 1: stage in the background. To be fair, it did seem
Speaker 1: harmless at the time, given that Kyrie did burn Sage
Speaker 1: in TD Garden and at the time that he burned
Speaker 1: the sage in td Garden, I was like, Wow, Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving is really trying to clear the negativity of his
Speaker 1: time in Boston. That was where my drama filled head went. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was obviously not the case. I just thought it
Speaker 1: was like a new age hippie thing. I hadn't done
Speaker 1: nearly in the amount of research clearly that I needed
Speaker 1: to do. And it turns out neither did. Max's Nice
Speaker 1: and Kyrie Irving took big offense. So Kyrie commented on
Speaker 1: the video what did it say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an Instagram comment and it said, I
Speaker 2: respect the comedy, but tell your ignorant counterpart, Max is Nice,
Speaker 2: do not disrespect my ancestors Tennis culture with his gestures.
Speaker 2: My god, it's sacred to us natives to burn sage
Speaker 2: and it's a remembrance of the people who died to
Speaker 2: preserve our customs.
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, that's not good. That is a bad
Speaker 1: look for maxis Nice. Yeah, it's a bad look because
Speaker 1: Kyrie came at him in a very respectful way. In
Speaker 1: case you didn't know, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people miss this. Kyrie's mom is Elizabeth Ann Larson, who
Speaker 1: passed away when he was four, and she was a
Speaker 1: member of the Standing rock Suit tribe, adopted when she
Speaker 1: was a baby, but her native name is Elizabeth Ann
Speaker 1: White Mountain. Kyrie is a seventh generation Native American. He
Speaker 1: is active in the Sioux community. His Native American name
Speaker 1: is Little Mountain. And you know that it's serious because
Speaker 1: that's the first thing that's on his Instagram profile is
Speaker 1: his native American name. And ig obviously Marty is a
Speaker 1: huge thing in the Kyrie Irving universe. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that I would say is quite disrespectful given that this
Speaker 1: is a custom in Native American culture. And instead of apologizing,
Speaker 1: your boy Max is Nice, decided no, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. I'm gonna fan the flames and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, Kyrie, you can catch these hands. He said,
Speaker 1: do you want a box and put boxing gloves on.
Speaker 1: The comment to Kyrie, that is a bad, bad, bad look.
Speaker 1: And then the Internet goes crazy, as it does, and
Speaker 1: not in the normal like fuck you Kyrie kind of way,
Speaker 1: not in the oh, Kyrie's the worst kind of way.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the craziest ratio. It was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent against Max's nice one hundred percent. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that is how egregious everything that Max's Nice did. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he recovers. He's tried to recover. He's
Speaker 1: apologized sense, but it's like a little too late now.
Speaker 1: The spoof ignorant but forgivable. The reaction was just toxic.
Speaker 1: It was like, I know I'm ignorant, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to double down on my ignorance. I can't believe you
Speaker 1: sunned me on Instagram, So I'm just gonna be mad
Speaker 1: at you and tell you you're wrong and we can just fight,
Speaker 1: we can just scrap. Instead of me being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was pretty ignorant. He just didn't have any idea
Speaker 1: that this could be offensive, and it was. So. I know,
Speaker 1: I have some bad takes. I made some bad takes
Speaker 1: I don't even want anyone to remember, but if someone
Speaker 1: called me out on them, I would certainly say, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's on me. Sometimes you just have to
Speaker 1: own up or you're gonna be lifelong burned by NBA twitter. Ah,
Speaker 1: find someone who loves you and wants you as much
Speaker 1: as Tom Thibodau wants Derrick Rose. This is the best
Speaker 1: romance on this side of the notebook. Just adorable. I mean,
Speaker 1: especially given the fact that Derrick Rose is a broken man.
Speaker 1: He has been discarded by multiple teams after he was
Speaker 1: an MVP. How many teams has it been on? Five?
Speaker 1: I think five teams For someone who was an MVP
Speaker 1: to be discarded, you are fragile. And you know what,
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau is going to lift Derek Rose up. He
Speaker 1: is now rejoined with Tom Thibodeau on the New York Knicks.
Speaker 1: This is the third time he's been on a Tom
Speaker 1: Thibodeaux team. That is wild, That is insane. That is
Speaker 1: something that everyone can can be inspired by.
Speaker 2: Love that.
Speaker 1: I love that. How can you love Tibbs not love
Speaker 1: Tibbs being out of the league. And then he gets
Speaker 1: his job in New York and he's like, Derek, don't worry, buddy,
Speaker 1: You're one of my first priorities to bring back. Like
Speaker 1: you're coming home.
Speaker 2: I'll get you out of Detroit.
Speaker 1: I'll get you out of there, buddy. Like, don't worry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that James Dolan is not in
Speaker 1: love with Emmanuel quickly. I'll barely play him any minutes.
Speaker 1: He won't even know what he has. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: starting in no time. It's okay, Dennis Smith Junior. He
Speaker 1: wants to be on the G League. We'll send it
Speaker 1: to Detroit. That's the next best thing, right, It's all good,
Speaker 1: It's all good. He made sure to go get Dereck Rose.
Speaker 1: It's not even halfway through the season yet, it's not
Speaker 1: even to the trade deadline, and he goes and gets
Speaker 1: his guy. Detroit was just not using him, and TIBs
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'll take him. Let us
Speaker 1: have it. This is just crazy. As a human being,
Speaker 1: as my therapist would say, as human beings, we want
Speaker 1: to be deeply seen and known. TIBs sees Dereck Rose,
Speaker 1: he sees how special he is, how special he can
Speaker 1: be again, and God blessed Tom Thibodeaux. He knows how
Speaker 1: he can use him and how it can work. And
Speaker 1: Lord knows. For some reason, Tom Thibodeau isn't going to
Speaker 1: use Emmanuel quickly until he's thirty. Tom Thibodau'll be gone
Speaker 1: by then. He's holding that other twenty minutes for Dereck Rose.
Speaker 1: Dereck Rose has never averaged less than twenty seven minutes
Speaker 1: a game. Playing with Tom Thibodeau. This boy's about to start.
Speaker 1: This boy is about to start as soon as he
Speaker 1: as soon as he passes COVID protocols. That's crazy. What
Speaker 1: a love story in the middle of a cold, cold February.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some dms. I had over
Speaker 1: four hundred dms for basketball related questions.
Speaker 2: That's quite a lot.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Okay, First off, we have why is Anthony Davis playing
Speaker 2: so soft this year?
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about these questions that I loved
Speaker 1: is that they all are the things that are in
Speaker 1: my head that I can't say out loud and now
Speaker 1: and now big Underscore Bob could say him for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is soft. Period. We talk about like resting
Speaker 1: bitch face, Anthony Davis and his resting state are is soft?
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that, Marty?
Speaker 2: I may not go that far, but I see I
Speaker 2: could see how a lot of people think that and
Speaker 2: arrived there.
Speaker 1: Yes, explain I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just seems a little weird to call
Speaker 2: someone who can go out and play the way I
Speaker 2: have seen him play at times soft at times? Yeah,
Speaker 2: at times.
Speaker 1: So what I said is resting, resting state is soft. Sure,
Speaker 1: of course, can he if he is put someone puts
Speaker 1: a shot collar on him, turn into a dog In
Speaker 1: the playoffs, yes, we saw Anthony Davis turn into a dog.
Speaker 1: But we know that Lebron James had the remote in
Speaker 1: his hand and the shot collar around Anthony Davis to
Speaker 1: turn him into a junkyard dog. That is what we
Speaker 1: see all last season and during part of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I say, Wow, this Anthony Davis kid can disappear. He
Speaker 1: can disappear for stretches. He can be a marshmallow. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he always is a marshmallow. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that he always is soft, but he can be that
Speaker 1: way for long periods of times, games at a time.
Speaker 1: And I know people are gonna get very mad about
Speaker 1: this on social and I don't care. This is just
Speaker 1: the way it is. Here's a little stat for you,
Speaker 1: Marty ad may be shooting better this year percentage wise
Speaker 1: and points wise, but he's averaging the fewest rebounds and
Speaker 1: blocks in his entire career since his rookie season. What
Speaker 1: do you have to say about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, that makes sense. I've seen him play this year.
Speaker 2: That makes sense that that's where he's at statistically this year, he's.
Speaker 1: Getting fouled less this year, which means this boy doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go anywhere near the rim. This boy is
Speaker 1: I get it, like you win your ring, you want
Speaker 1: to stick around the perimeter for a while. I mean
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough down there on the block. I
Speaker 1: don't care that he grew up in Chicago. He was
Speaker 1: crown King very young. AA you entitled soft spoken, like
Speaker 1: soft and I like the guy, I really do. And
Speaker 1: as a human being, I can see why Lebron James
Speaker 1: also loves Anthony Davis. He is an unselfish player. But
Speaker 1: with that comes someone who is very very clearly not
Speaker 1: a pitbole just not that is just not. Fortunately for
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and his legacy and Lebron James and his legacy,
Speaker 1: and the Lakers and their legacy, Anthony Davis has clearly
Speaker 1: shown when the lights are bright, that boy goes ham.
Speaker 1: But he is no Jimmy Butler. He is no like
Speaker 1: hard rock that just will give it to people on
Speaker 1: a night tonight. Basis so Laker fans, yes, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to suffer with Anthony Davis being quite soft looking
Speaker 1: throughout the regular season and probably through stretches of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. You've got the ultimate dog in Lebron
Speaker 1: James and the Caesar Milan. This is fucks a fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is a fucked up analogy. But the Caesar Milan
Speaker 1: in Lebron James turning Anthony Davis into oh I just
Speaker 1: can't just you know what I have what I'm saying
Speaker 1: on a he's turned him into a junkyard dog in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but not on a night to night basis.
Speaker 1: That was I mean, this could get me ratios, but
Speaker 1: this is that's the truth.
Speaker 2: Gotcha?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: So the next one is who should the Celtics use
Speaker 2: the traded player exception on?
Speaker 1: So they have twenty eight and a half million and
Speaker 1: the traded player exception. Aine has said he wants shooters
Speaker 1: with size, So who are those people? Do you have
Speaker 1: any names? Mind? Kelly, Kelly ub shooters with size. That boy,
Speaker 1: Kelly Ubra, he he will shoot. We know that Kelly
Speaker 1: Ubra will shoot. Harrison Barnes, I like he's averaging seventeen
Speaker 1: fifty percent from the field, forty one percent from three.
Speaker 1: He could be an addition, he's he can also defend.
Speaker 1: I would say, Yeah, I love the idea of PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker because, like, I think that the Celtics need to
Speaker 1: get Marcus Smart out of there out. I love Marcus Smart.
Speaker 1: I love his toughness. I love what he can do,
Speaker 1: but boy does he make some bad, bad decisions on
Speaker 1: the offensive side. He thinks he's a good He doesn't
Speaker 1: Kelly Ubra shit he does he does. We're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: he does shit that Draymond Green does where it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: why are you shooting from the logo right now? Did
Speaker 1: anyone tell you to do that? Did anyone say, Marcus Smart,
Speaker 1: this is your game to go out and shoot thirty
Speaker 1: times tonight? No? So I want Marcus Smart out. PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker doesn't do that shit. He does not. He's just
Speaker 1: as tough as Marcus Smart. He's bigger, he can hit threes,
Speaker 1: and he makes so much better decisions. So I like that.
Speaker 1: Who else? I really like Julius Randall, But I don't
Speaker 1: think the Knicks are I think the Knicks are playing
Speaker 1: way too good and I do not I think they
Speaker 1: love themselves and Julius.
Speaker 2: Randall, Oh yeah, they're gonna see what they have in
Speaker 2: him right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean before before Tibbs runs the tread off
Speaker 1: of Julius Randall and then they have to trade him
Speaker 1: for nothing. I don't think. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of him. I've also heard that the Bulls
Speaker 1: are shopping marketing, but I don't think marketing plays good
Speaker 1: enough d for them. Also, like, I just don't think.
Speaker 1: I just don't think that moves the needle in any
Speaker 1: exciting way for a while, though I love but they
Speaker 1: see here's the thing about the Ennis Cant thing, like
Speaker 1: they don't know how to use They obviously don't know
Speaker 1: this is a Brad Stevens segment in the future. But
Speaker 1: Brad Stevens clearly misused Ennis cantor Nis Cant for the Blazers.
Speaker 1: Now is like one of the best free agent signings
Speaker 1: in the entire offseasons.
Speaker 2: Oh, he can get a bucket.
Speaker 1: He can get a bucket, he can rebound, and boy,
Speaker 1: he is an underrated defender for how much people drag him.
Speaker 1: He three blocks in a game like the Celtics didn't
Speaker 1: use Ennis cantor whatsoever. But he's not like a three
Speaker 1: point shooter. I really really like Vussovich as as a
Speaker 1: possible candidate for them. He can shoot the three, he's
Speaker 1: seven feet tall, he can defend, he can pull guys out.
Speaker 1: He can actually defend someone like Embiid. This is the problem.
Speaker 1: The Celtics have no answer for Joel Embiid and when
Speaker 1: it comes time for the playoffs, that's gonna be a huge,
Speaker 1: huge problem. Let's go next question.
Speaker 2: Okay, next up, we've got who's the worst player you
Speaker 2: would trade Ben Simmons for?
Speaker 1: Who asked that question?
Speaker 2: This is from user Johnny underscore Cocaine.
Speaker 1: Well, Johnny Cocaine, what a great question. That's like, I
Speaker 1: love these random hypotheticals that my mind never thinks of.
Speaker 1: Who's the worst player that you would trade Ben Simmons for? Hmm?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of bad players that you could
Speaker 1: legitimately swap them for. I think the worst player being
Speaker 1: floated around is Zach Lavine. I don't think Zach the
Speaker 1: Zack Lavine's having like an all We'll call it an
Speaker 1: All year for him. I wouldn't call it like an
Speaker 1: All Pro year.
Speaker 2: But he's playing a lot of people got hurt. He
Speaker 2: could maybe be an All Star.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, He's at the All Star Game for one reason,
Speaker 1: and one reason only the dunk contest. I guess the
Speaker 1: three point shooting contest. Sometimes two he's been in. But
Speaker 1: he's not an All Star. All that to say he's
Speaker 1: not an All Star. I have read a lot of
Speaker 1: articles saying that that's a possibility. But the only reason
Speaker 1: you do that is to get out of Ben simmons
Speaker 1: bad contract. So I don't think that's gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: the trade, this isn't really a bad trade, So this
Speaker 1: isn't the worst player. I'm kind of like skating out
Speaker 1: of this question as much as I can. But the
Speaker 1: trade that I love in my mind is Anthony Simon's
Speaker 1: and CJ McCollum for Ben Simmons and maybe Dwight Howard.
Speaker 1: So you couldn't trade CJ for Ben straight up. I
Speaker 1: just wouldn't. Maybe you could, So let's just say you
Speaker 1: do that. See you get rid of CJ, which is
Speaker 1: right around twenty five points of offense. We don't have
Speaker 1: him right now anyway, bomb Ankle, But the Blazers already
Speaker 1: have plenty of offense. So we've got Gary Trent Junior,
Speaker 1: You've got Rodney Hood, You've obviously got Dame Robert Covington.
Speaker 1: Can get a bucket, So you got plenty of that.
Speaker 1: Gary Tren Junior immediately steps into CJ. McCollums role, and
Speaker 1: now with Covington Jones and Ben Simmons, you could possibly
Speaker 1: maybe defend some people. Maybe, Like we are at this point,
Speaker 1: we Blazers being my team, we are the second worst
Speaker 1: defensive team in the entire National Basketball Association, So goddamn it,
Speaker 1: we need some defense. Terry Stotts, I think could actually
Speaker 1: unlock Ben Simmons in a way using Damian Lillard and
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons pick and roll. Like, could you imagine using
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons like the Blazers used Nurkic, Like put him
Speaker 1: on the free throw line, come up, Dame can Like
Speaker 1: you can run a two man action with those dudes
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 2: Dame would get a fuck ton of hockey assists.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And Ben Simmons he can pass, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he can pass that. I mean, you can get some
Speaker 1: backdoor cutters. I just I really like that. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would ever happen, but I think it's a possibility. Uh,
Speaker 1: with the West being filled with gun slingers, we need
Speaker 1: to defend someone. I mean, just Darren Fox is gonna
Speaker 1: cook us you know, Donovan Mitchell, Mike Conley, gonna cook
Speaker 1: us just all day. We cannot hang with elite teams.
Speaker 1: We've got to figure something out. I love CJ, but like, goddamn,
Speaker 1: something's gotta change, all right.
Speaker 2: Uh, speaking of the Kings, we've got besides Fox and Haliburton,
Speaker 2: please try and find something positive about the Kings. This
Speaker 2: is from uh User Kangs all Day?
Speaker 1: Was that your twang? Or is it actually kangs? He
Speaker 1: spells it Kanings like like kangaroo.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, like the Simpsons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, this person caangs all Day is disgruntled obviously,
Speaker 1: what a scarred fan. Okay, that's like being like yo,
Speaker 1: outside of me being like good looking and fit, Please
Speaker 1: tell me why I am like a desirable human being. Like,
Speaker 1: you've got two players in dearon Fox and Haliburton that
Speaker 1: are very exciting, very good, very skilled players that you
Speaker 1: have to build on for the future. So, like, besides them,
Speaker 1: what is there to be excited about? There's actually a
Speaker 1: lot of things you've got. You've got Buddy Healed, he
Speaker 1: is killing. You've got Harrison Barnes, he's killing. They've won
Speaker 1: eight of ten games. That's exciting. They're one of the
Speaker 1: best teams to bet against the spread. They've just consistently outperformed.
Speaker 1: They just beat the Clippers, they just beat the Celtics.
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, this is an exciting ass team. This
Speaker 1: is This is just an unreal question because like you've
Speaker 1: got you lucked out on Haliburton, you didn't deserve him.
Speaker 1: The Kings never draft well. Like, what are you mad about?
Speaker 1: You're mad because Marvin Bagley didn't work out. Like you're
Speaker 1: mad because Willie coley Stein has gone or DeMarcus Cousins
Speaker 1: is no longer there? What are you mad about? What
Speaker 1: are you so sad for? Like, this team is exciting.
Speaker 2: As one of the teams that passed on Luca, I
Speaker 2: could say that probably has a little something to do
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say things about Luca at some point. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't see it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think that's probably where a little
Speaker 2: bit of the depression comes from. But another thing I
Speaker 2: will add, whenever you win, Rischon Holmes mother posts Instagram
Speaker 2: videos that are very heartwarming about your victory.
Speaker 1: Oh that is a nice thing to go and check
Speaker 1: that out on ig Kang's what is it.
Speaker 2: Kang's all day, Kang's all day.
Speaker 1: I would die for to have Diaron Fox and Tyrese
Speaker 1: Haliburton on my team. So if you're a Kings fan,
Speaker 1: just enjoy the ride. There's a lot to be encouraged about,
Speaker 1: especially those ig posts.
Speaker 2: Okay, does Kelly Ubre look better with or without his headband?
Speaker 1: Who's that? From?
Speaker 2: Walland five thirty?
Speaker 1: Walland five thirty? What a question? What an unreal question?
Speaker 1: Do you know that Kelly Ubre has become a universal
Speaker 1: sex symbol for men?
Speaker 2: Quite aware?
Speaker 1: And yeah, you were, you were? You are a Suns
Speaker 1: fan and he was a son. Tell me about what
Speaker 1: you know about this?
Speaker 2: I mean he's handsome, he's handsome. He used to hook
Speaker 2: up with Kendall Jenner for a little while before he
Speaker 2: and uh she and book started dating.
Speaker 1: Uh had just been passed around the NBA had a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's from Louisiana. He got displaced by Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm a big Kelly Ubray fan, even
Speaker 2: though he's no longer a son.
Speaker 1: There are straight men who say some wild things in
Speaker 1: Kelly Ubra's Instagram, like like have my babies? It has
Speaker 1: become a trend for straight men to sexually harass Kelly
Speaker 1: Ubray online. That's just what has been the only thing
Speaker 1: that is not sexy about Kelly Ubra is him shooting
Speaker 1: three for forty. Yeah, that's the only thing. Or him
Speaker 1: telling the world that he thinks that he's going to
Speaker 1: replace Kevin Durant when he came in for the Warriors
Speaker 1: like that was also not exactly sexy. I false Bravado
Speaker 1: is not sexy, and that was that. That was false Bravado.
Speaker 1: I love the quote confidence, but in terms of his
Speaker 1: his looks, I looked at some photos of Kelly Ubray
Speaker 1: just this morning, and I think he's sexier naked, so
Speaker 1: no headband, sexier with the no headband, sexier, just play naked,
Speaker 1: lots of tattoos, love myself some Kelly Oubra, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay? Next up we have how would you cope if
Speaker 2: you were a Magic fan?
Speaker 1: God, it's rough. It's rough band Magic fan. You had
Speaker 1: so much to be excited about the Magic the first
Speaker 1: episode of this podcast, We're one of the most exciting
Speaker 1: teams in the NBA. They were like second in the East.
Speaker 1: Mark el Foltz was ballin and then as soon as
Speaker 1: he tore himself his knee up. Now the Magic are
Speaker 1: n nine and fifteen. They've lost seven to ten. It's
Speaker 1: just a depressing situation. You've got really nothing to look
Speaker 1: forward to if you're an Orlando Magic fan. So here's
Speaker 1: what I would do. Uh oh, yes, this stat I
Speaker 1: forgot to say. Their last game, they lost to the
Speaker 1: Bulls at home by twenty eight. They scored a minuscule
Speaker 1: twelve twelve points in a quarter. My let me just
Speaker 1: say this. My high school girls basketball team regularly scored
Speaker 1: more than twelve in a quarter. We put up at
Speaker 1: least fifteen seventeen points at a quarter. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wasn't much better, but that's better than an NBA player.
Speaker 1: So how would I cope? I guess I would look
Speaker 1: at the draft board a lot. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: get Cad Kenningham maybe like keep sliding, keep sliden more.
Speaker 1: You could get maybe Jalen Sugs from Gonzaga. Just keep sliding,
Speaker 1: get deep into the weeds. And the NBA draft Reddit tankathon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like look at old Penny Hardaway highlights, look at
Speaker 1: old Shack highlights. Those two together were the last time
Speaker 1: this Orlando Magic team was really exciting. Exciting. They went
Speaker 1: to the finals with with Dwight Dwight Howard, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't count to me. I just don't think that that
Speaker 1: was a good team at all. I would say also,
Speaker 1: maybe enjoy some time away from from basketball, put on
Speaker 1: your favorite Tracy McGrady jersey, and like enjoy the Florida Sun.
Speaker 1: Just maybe go to the Bayou and like look at
Speaker 1: some crocodiles, or maybe take a trip to Walt Disney
Speaker 1: World Splash Mountain. That's the only splashing that's going on
Speaker 1: in Orlando is Splash Mountain.
Speaker 2: And they're changing the name.
Speaker 1: They're changing the name to what where?
Speaker 2: They changing the name to the Princess and the Frog Ride.
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what the name is, but I
Speaker 2: think they are changing the name dum a little bit.
Speaker 1: I feel that is a change in history. I don't
Speaker 1: like that anyway. Fuck it. Maybe become a team, a
Speaker 1: fan of a team if you don't live in Orlando,
Speaker 1: become a fan of a team near your city that
Speaker 1: you live in. Just start wearing their colors, jump on
Speaker 1: the bandwagon. I don't know. Become a Kings fan. Kings
Speaker 1: are very exciting. Just to ask Kings, was it King's
Speaker 1: Rider or Die. What was his name? Kings Kings all day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this guy, this guy is John Whitney. Maybe
Speaker 1: your name should be Magic Fan for Life. Maybe I
Speaker 1: would think a more ride or Die than you are.
Speaker 2: Next question, Okay, this should be fun.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 2: Uh where do you rank Devin Booker in the league?
Speaker 1: Oh, Marty, Marty, Marty. I vacillated back and forth on
Speaker 1: us for a long ass time because you say the
Speaker 1: name Devin Booker and you think, man, this dude is good. Man?
Speaker 1: Is he a walking bucket? Man? Does he do exciting things?
Speaker 1: See a leader? Is he pretty out there? Smooth? Just able?
Speaker 1: Like that Chase down block? You think about that Chase
Speaker 1: down block comes back? Has the assist? God, I love
Speaker 1: some Devin Booker. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You think about a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Think about a lot of things. You're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: he's underrated. He can be clutch. And then you look
Speaker 1: at Basketball reference dot com, the dream killer of all
Speaker 1: dream killers, and you see his step and you say, wow,
Speaker 1: are my eyes deceiving me? Is Devin Booker? Is Devin
Speaker 1: Booker that good? Is he as good as I think
Speaker 1: he is? Statistically? Devin Booker is thirty four percent from
Speaker 1: three for his career. That is concerning. That's so concerning
Speaker 1: this year, and you think to yourself, maybe last year
Speaker 1: it was just because people were draped all over him.
Speaker 1: He was the only option at the wing. Mcal Bridges
Speaker 1: hadn't come into his own yet. He had Kelly Ubray
Speaker 1: with him chucking. No need to defend Kelly Ubray, Ricky
Speaker 1: Rubio chucking. Okay, so he's draped and now he's unlocked, right,
Speaker 1: and shit, what is he shooting from three now? Thirty
Speaker 1: five percent? That's not good. That is not good. And
Speaker 1: then you think to yourself, Okay, is he better than
Speaker 1: is he better than CJ McCollum, Who's who I'm advocating
Speaker 1: we should trade. Yeah, I think he's better. I think
Speaker 1: to myself, yeah, he's better than CJ. Right, he's better
Speaker 1: than CJ. And then I go on Basketball Reference again
Speaker 1: and CJ McCollum is shooting a whopping forty four percent
Speaker 1: from three, and you're like, damn, that's a full ten
Speaker 1: percent better. Holy shit, And let's be serious. CJ's threes
Speaker 1: are also contested. He's not a man in the corner
Speaker 1: just waiting to get shots free. Passes from Dame on
Speaker 1: the kickout. That would be disrespectful if you said that
Speaker 1: I love I love Devin Booker, But where does he rank?
Speaker 1: I just don't know. I think if I had to
Speaker 1: say and go down the list, I'd say, like the
Speaker 1: fifth best shooting guard in the league. Fifth, fifth, I
Speaker 1: have to put it at like five.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I can't know I fifth.
Speaker 1: Let me like just look like, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Don't do lists, So like, I'm not gonna come out
Speaker 2: and say a percent you're own. I don't think I
Speaker 2: would have him fifth by any stretch.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about we're talking about like right now,
Speaker 1: or are we talking about including including Clay Thompson.
Speaker 2: We'll include him.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you've got James Harden too, You've got Clay,
Speaker 1: You've got Paul George, Paul George. You don't put Paul
Speaker 1: George there, You've got Drew Drew Holler.
Speaker 2: I think I think if Paul George Moore is a
Speaker 2: wing than a shooting guard.
Speaker 1: But that's what is that's what he's considered as a
Speaker 1: shooting guard. That's what they call him. He's not a
Speaker 1: small forward, a shooting guard. Okay, So we'll take out
Speaker 1: Paul George. I put C. J. McCollum right in front. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't, it's I mean, I just do. He's an
Speaker 1: iron man. Devin Booker has been really a lot hurt,
Speaker 1: more hurt. I think he's five. He's like four or five.
Speaker 1: Give me your give me your best. I know you're
Speaker 1: salty about this. Give me your best, Devin Booker, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you respond to thirty four
Speaker 1: from three at.
Speaker 2: Your I mean you kind of did it. You kind
Speaker 2: of did it for me. He's always had shit teammates
Speaker 2: his entire career. He's had to shoot out of triple
Speaker 2: teams constantly.
Speaker 1: That's why Damian Lillard shoots out of triple teams. That boy.
Speaker 2: Okay, not everyone is Damian Lillard's level of sharpshooter. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying Devin Booker really is. I think him winning
Speaker 2: the three point contest at a young age made people
Speaker 2: think of him only as a sharp shooter and like
Speaker 2: that's his game. But dude gets inside, he facilitates, he
Speaker 2: gets people involved. He does way more than shoot threes.
Speaker 2: And I do expect that number.
Speaker 1: To go up. I hope it goes up. It's gotta
Speaker 1: go up. That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it has to go out.
Speaker 1: It's gotta get you.
Speaker 2: If it goes down, then I'll go.
Speaker 1: I mean that's all the time. I think we used
Speaker 1: that all the time that we have on that shoot.
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