Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Today's Therapy Thursday is Nick Pigeon. She's a renowned motivational speaker,
Speaker 2: accomplished author, a business mentor, and a positive psychologist deeply
Speaker 2: committed to igniting joy, personal empowerment, and unstoppable success in
Speaker 2: individuals and their enterprises. So her fascination lies in deciphering
Speaker 2: the common barriers that impede progress and uncovering the true
Speaker 2: essence of becoming unstoppable with the proven track record. Nick
Speaker 2: is a sales luminary who has generated millions through her
Speaker 2: stage presence, online platforms, and phone interactions. So she's got
Speaker 2: a book out now called Now Is Your Chance, A
Speaker 2: thirty day guide to living your Happiest life. So happiness
Speaker 2: is an ultimate goal for so many of us, But
Speaker 2: why does it often feel like a destination that is
Speaker 2: completely unreachable?
Speaker 3: So let's get her on. Hi Nick, good morning, How
Speaker 3: are you? Oh? And you have an accent? I'm here
Speaker 3: for it. Well that's why you're so happy because.
Speaker 4: He really cool dodgy northern accent.
Speaker 3: No I love. So where are you from? Originally?
Speaker 4: Then I'm from a place called Newcastle, which is in
Speaker 4: the north of England. Yeah, so I've been here for
Speaker 4: nine years.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, my fiance Scottish, so uh huh yeah where
Speaker 2: in Scotland he's he was born and raised in Glasgow.
Speaker 4: Glasgow, Yeah, a couple of months.
Speaker 2: Ago we've been Oh really yeah, I mean I thought
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was a cool city. He says,
Speaker 2: it's changed a bit since he's left. But we were
Speaker 2: looking at wedding venues in Scotland and the northern part
Speaker 2: of Scotland is so beautiful and is that then close
Speaker 2: to where you are then from.
Speaker 4: Freezing cold as well, which is why I left.
Speaker 3: Well that makes sense. And now you're in La.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in La. And congratulations by the way, oh
Speaker 4: thank you amazing, amazing up leveled my perspective.
Speaker 3: Well I should.
Speaker 2: We we did four days postpartum last time we filmed
Speaker 2: our first episode and it was I mean I was
Speaker 2: crying over a butcherbox ad so I was like I
Speaker 2: cannot be doing this right now, like this is bad.
Speaker 3: But anyways, I'm so.
Speaker 2: We're so excited to talk to you because you have
Speaker 2: the book How Now is Your Chance? A thirty day
Speaker 2: Guide to living your Happiest Life and I'm curious with
Speaker 2: so for so long, probably up until I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd say like a year and a half, two years ago.
Speaker 2: Nothing could really make me happy until I found happiness
Speaker 2: within myself. So I would always try to, like find
Speaker 2: a relationship. I'm like, Okay, why am I still so unhappy?
Speaker 2: I'm in a relationship, I've got this, I've got that.
Speaker 2: And it's that finding your happiness. Where do you find that?
Speaker 2: People struggle with that because I'm like, what I should
Speaker 2: be happy?
Speaker 3: And why am I not?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there's a couple of things. First
Speaker 4: of all, it's not side of yourself in the first place,
Speaker 4: or putting it into the future as somewhere that you
Speaker 4: have to get to you as a destination. So when
Speaker 4: you realize, I got asked in an interview a little
Speaker 4: while ago, Nick, do you really think it's possible to
Speaker 4: be happy in change your mindset in a month? And
Speaker 4: it made me laugh because I thought it's possible to
Speaker 4: change your mindset in a moment, never mind in a month.
Speaker 4: So I think that separation is one thing, and then
Speaker 4: I also think the mindset around it is it doesn't
Speaker 4: have to be hard. A lot of positive psychology and
Speaker 4: happiness teachings are really really simple. What's different is they're
Speaker 4: grounded in science, but it's still things that our grandmother's
Speaker 4: told us, like be grateful, or slow down and be
Speaker 4: present and notice the beauty around you. So when you
Speaker 4: recognize that it can be done simply and quickly, we
Speaker 4: can actually start to do it.
Speaker 2: Why do you think people try to put their happiness
Speaker 2: on So that's my thing now, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 2: make you happy. You have to be happy for yourself,
Speaker 2: like no person thing or it's going to make you happy, Like,
Speaker 2: you have to find that withinside yourself. So how do
Speaker 2: you do that without trying to find that in your
Speaker 2: partner or your children or your work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a Sir Richard Branson shares a story
Speaker 4: about his circle theory, and he teaches that if we
Speaker 4: just all look after ourselves first and we focus on
Speaker 4: making ourselves feel good and then look after our immediate
Speaker 4: circle of family and then our next circle of friends,
Speaker 4: and then maybe extend it to our neighbors, then the
Speaker 4: world would completely transform. And what's actually happening is we're
Speaker 4: not resourcing ourselves first, so we're operating from a place
Speaker 4: of not having our full capacity or full power or
Speaker 4: full potential. So then the way that we show up
Speaker 4: for our families or the way we show up in relationships,
Speaker 4: we're not actually being our best selves. So we think
Speaker 4: that it's selfish to focus on ourselves first, but it's
Speaker 4: actually helping fuel our relationships as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this isn't a common reoccurring thing. I keep hearing,
Speaker 2: so that's how I know I'm supposed to really hear
Speaker 2: it this time. So your third time is a term
Speaker 2: for me when it comes to like resourcing yourself and
Speaker 2: then moving to the next circle. So in your life,
Speaker 2: did this become like a passion project for you because
Speaker 2: you felt unsettled, unhappy? Was there a moment in your
Speaker 2: life where you thought, this is my turning point and
Speaker 2: now I have to kind of like triage myself and
Speaker 2: then when does it turn to this book for you?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean there's been many, many defining moments, and
Speaker 4: I think that's something that we get to remember is
Speaker 4: life is going to keep on lifing. So I was
Speaker 4: originally supposed to be a mechanical and automotive engineer in my.
Speaker 3: Career, says the Miss USA.
Speaker 5: Everybody that can't see her Nick you're like, your brain
Speaker 5: is beautiful, but you are stunning.
Speaker 3: It was by the way, I tell again, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a great career. It's just I
Speaker 2: wouldn't see you doing that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I love what I do, like I really love what
Speaker 4: I do now, and I think before when I was
Speaker 4: signed up to do that, it was because I'd done
Speaker 4: maths and physics at school and my dad was saying
Speaker 4: to me, I think you should go and get a
Speaker 4: career where you're going to earn money in a man's world.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't the thing that was right for me.
Speaker 4: So I found positive psychology through really listening to my
Speaker 4: intuition and following this path where there was a conversation
Speaker 4: with my ex partner at the time and he'd been
Speaker 4: seeing a sports psychologist. He was a professional cricket player,
Speaker 4: and he said, when you're looking out on the field,
Speaker 4: don't look at the fielders, look for the gaps in
Speaker 4: between them instead, and that just hit me. It was
Speaker 4: a landslide moment because I thought, how much time do
Speaker 4: we focus on the problems instead of on the opportunities.
Speaker 4: So I've had a lot of moments in my life.
Speaker 4: Whether it's been a relationship breakup, or whether it's been
Speaker 4: a sexual assault, or whether it's challenges that we come
Speaker 4: across in our daily lives or the businesses that I run.
Speaker 4: There's always going to be something. And what I come
Speaker 4: back to is I've always been able to navigate those
Speaker 4: hard things with way more.
Speaker 3: Grace and ease.
Speaker 4: Even if it's messy and I feel like I'm doing
Speaker 4: a bad job, I know that with the tools of
Speaker 4: positive psychology, I'm doing better than I would do without them.
Speaker 1: M It's so interesting because I've noticed that like my
Speaker 1: husband and I we get in very much that rut
Speaker 1: of the just everyday circumstances, not huge deals, like our
Speaker 1: children are healthy. You know, we make money, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's just like we're not making the money he
Speaker 1: thinks we should be making at the time, or if
Speaker 1: the kids are fighting, or if we're fighting because we
Speaker 1: don't agree on how to discipline him, it will change
Speaker 1: his positivity. And we actually had this conversation last night,
Speaker 1: so it's very fitting because I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't be the one, you know, if me and
Speaker 1: my child are fighting because she's doing this and then
Speaker 1: you're stressed out and so now you're not happy, Like
Speaker 1: we can't, we cannot be the source of your happiness.
Speaker 1: And so we had this whole conversation about it. But
Speaker 1: it's always just like those little life things, and it's like,
Speaker 1: why can we not just not focus on those and
Speaker 1: just be happy, Like it will go away tomorrow. It
Speaker 1: won't you know, won't make more money tomorrow, they won't
Speaker 1: be fighting with us tomorrow, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's just so hard to do though it's fascinating.
Speaker 4: I had a friend who broke up with her partner
Speaker 4: because they didn't load the dishwasher in the same way.
Speaker 5: So that's valid if you ask me, but that's very valid.
Speaker 3: Like I put.
Speaker 2: Bowls on the top, my ex used to put them
Speaker 2: on the bottom, and I'm like, I don't get it,
Speaker 2: but fine, but.
Speaker 1: That's like how that makes us like legitimately not happy
Speaker 1: in a moment, which it happens to everybody, but like
Speaker 1: those little things, how you can literally go from having
Speaker 1: a great day to being just in a bad mood
Speaker 1: and just not joyful.
Speaker 2: So then what do you do in that Like what
Speaker 2: would be the thing that you would say in your book, Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: when that moment happens for all of us right, like
Speaker 2: to go, okay, what's the how do I flip this?
Speaker 4: One of the super simple tools is coming back to gratitude.
Speaker 4: So it's asking yourself, what are three things that I'm
Speaker 4: grateful for right now? But we've actually seen new research
Speaker 4: that says that it's all so stronger when it's shared.
Speaker 4: So if you can laugh in that moment and then say, okay,
Speaker 4: like let's take a time out, what's something that you're
Speaker 4: grateful for right now? And you go back and forward
Speaker 4: with each other like I do it with my team
Speaker 4: and WhatsApp, and it's super fun. We call it a
Speaker 4: gratitude rumpage. And then all of a sudden, you've got
Speaker 4: all of these things and your focus is completely shifted
Speaker 4: on what's good rather than what's wrong, And then you
Speaker 4: can handle any challenge when you're in a better state,
Speaker 4: in a better mood, because it helps you to solve
Speaker 4: problems more effectively when you're in a positive emotional state.
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds great, it's but in a moment
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be so hard to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting though. A very good example for us
Speaker 1: last night is and I just it came to me
Speaker 1: when I was talking to my husband. My seven year
Speaker 1: old had given us her Christmas list, and of course
Speaker 1: it was like a million miles long, you know, a
Speaker 1: pony literally it was just the biggest list you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And so my husband was like immediately kind of went to, well,
Speaker 1: what do you do with that list? Like how do
Speaker 1: you cut it down? How do you just all the
Speaker 1: negative things?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: And that was a couple of days ago. So then
Speaker 1: last night I was like, you know, that really bothered me.
Speaker 1: I was like, I understand that you're thinking da da,
Speaker 1: da da da. I was like, but like, we're really
Speaker 1: lucky that we have a kid that has a Christmas list,
Speaker 1: you know, and that we can get them Christmas gifts.
Speaker 1: And he was like, you're so right, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's just trying. I'm trying to do that and kind
Speaker 1: of flip that like we're lucky that she's able to
Speaker 1: write a list, We're lucky that we have a child
Speaker 1: that can write a Christmas list, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: just so many things, and it really it took him in.
Speaker 1: He was like, wow, I mean that's kind of heavy,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like you're right, like we
Speaker 1: are lucky that we have that.
Speaker 3: True, so truective effective.
Speaker 4: Yeah, perspective is so important to be able to either
Speaker 4: be reflective or step back and take yourself out of
Speaker 4: the current situation and current moment. And also when you're
Speaker 4: looking at building positive relationships, always being able to take
Speaker 4: our part and say, listen, I take responsibility for this.
Speaker 4: Didn't show up with my best self there, and like,
Speaker 4: let's get curious around how we can do this but
Speaker 4: the next time. So having that, like the active constructive
Speaker 4: conversation within our relationships that you can help to do
Speaker 4: something different if it's coming up again and again and
Speaker 4: again as a pattern.
Speaker 2: So for the girl that would cry every New Year's
Speaker 2: Eve and just hypothetically that we know this girl would
Speaker 2: ever on this couch, I didn't cry last year, but
Speaker 2: it's because, like I did obviously a lot of work,
Speaker 2: and you know it was happy and truly like inside happy.
Speaker 2: But for the person that's just struggles to find happiness inside,
Speaker 2: what is something that would be a good tip in
Speaker 2: the thirty day book that you have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love developing some sort of ritual or like
Speaker 4: personal success system within your day. And I've really learned
Speaker 4: that the context matters. So I'm not a mother, but
Speaker 4: I was a step mom for two years and that
Speaker 4: gave me real perspective on what it's like to be
Speaker 4: a mother as well as have businesses. So I used
Speaker 4: to teach do a morning ritual and the seven different
Speaker 4: things that you have to do, and you have to
Speaker 4: do them in this order. Now I've learned that that
Speaker 4: might not be possible in your daily reality. So for me,
Speaker 4: it's really simplifying and doing something and allowing yourself to
Speaker 4: celebrate that something that you do. So instead of having
Speaker 4: a structured morning ritual, now I have a menu in
Speaker 4: the note section of my phone.
Speaker 3: It's so basic.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get.
Speaker 4: The dopamine hit and it's all. I have forty four
Speaker 4: things on there, and it could be anything. It could
Speaker 4: be take a walk outside, or take your supplements, or
Speaker 4: practice breath work, or do shamanic shaking where you shake
Speaker 4: all of the energy and tension out of your body.
Speaker 4: It could be text someone with gratitude. And I don't
Speaker 4: do forty four a day, but I do some of them,
Speaker 4: and then I celebrate the fact that I've done some
Speaker 4: of them and I know that I've done something to
Speaker 4: make myself feel good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: Amy had me do that when I was on my
Speaker 2: last film because I was going to be away from
Speaker 2: the kids for longer than I ever have on a
Speaker 2: film set, and I was obviously pregnant. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: good and I was staying kind of a negative place,
Speaker 2: and she said, every day for the next you know,
Speaker 2: when you're there on the movie, write a grad to
Speaker 2: things that you're grateful for. And it really truly helped.
Speaker 2: Because I've never done it before. I was always like, man,
Speaker 2: it does not that's not going to work. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna help. It's not gonna and it did. I was
Speaker 2: shocked how much it did help. Even and I repeated
Speaker 2: a lot of the same things. I would say, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for being healthy, and I'm grateful for my
Speaker 2: kids and Alan, and but then that then took the
Speaker 2: negative outside of my head, which was everything that I
Speaker 2: was fearing.
Speaker 1: Or have you ever done that with your kids? I've
Speaker 1: heard people say to do that with your kids.
Speaker 2: So at nighttime, we pray and then we say what
Speaker 2: are you? That's like my My nighttime routine with the
Speaker 2: kids is my favorite piece because I'm always like, what
Speaker 2: are you grateful for and then you know today and
Speaker 2: then let's say our.
Speaker 3: Prayers and it's just so great.
Speaker 2: We've been doing a lot of this at home, the
Speaker 2: kids and my our kids, Janna and I have the
Speaker 2: same ages, and I feel like when we both have
Speaker 2: a boy and girl at the top, the biggies are
Speaker 2: boys and girls, and I feel like they've been fighting
Speaker 2: like cats and dogs, like really just like they're so
Speaker 2: good when they're good, and then they're just a disaster
Speaker 2: when they're a disaster, which is just being kids. But
Speaker 2: like I make them free in the moment, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm all done. Five things we love about Legend. Five
Speaker 2: things we love about Love to break the cycle because
Speaker 2: I need it for myself. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: because I know we're in this world of like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're all I think our generation. I'm assuming you're a
Speaker 2: bit younger than me, by the way, but our generation
Speaker 2: feels like we are trying to like really take the
Speaker 2: world by storm and like make this be a happier, whole,
Speaker 2: more healthy place. So what I like about what you're
Speaker 2: doing is not that it's that it's not toxic positivity.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of realism and what you're up to, which, listen,
Speaker 2: we all want to be the most positive, we all
Speaker 2: want to wake up, and we all want to do
Speaker 2: all these things. But also, like you say, we're lifing, right,
Speaker 2: so what is your deciding What I guess is your
Speaker 2: deciding factor when you go like, what I'm sharing is
Speaker 2: what I'm sharing realistic positivity that I can do when
Speaker 2: I'm lifing, or is this toxic positivity where it's just
Speaker 2: like everything's great, we should be grateful. Because doctor Amen,
Speaker 2: actually sorry to cut you off, but he was like,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in just positive thinking. He's like, that's
Speaker 2: well a little unrealistic because we're still being human, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm like, oh, it's an interesting we have,
Speaker 3: you know, but yeah.
Speaker 4: And I love him. He's amazing, amazing, and it's so true.
Speaker 4: I think there's a misconception about what positivity or positive
Speaker 4: psychology is, and people think just do your affirmations and
Speaker 4: life will be great. It's so much about learning through
Speaker 4: challenge as well. And I think when you understand that
Speaker 4: there's always going to be challenges in life, and we
Speaker 4: get to look for what are the silver linings or
Speaker 4: how did I learn and how did I grow within that?
Speaker 4: Then we can start to forgive ourselves, because often it's
Speaker 4: us beating ourselves up, like we're our own biggest critics,
Speaker 4: and we have this idea that we should be happy
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of the time. We all have emotions
Speaker 4: and they're all valid, So it's more about feeling and
Speaker 4: processing the emotion and then telling yourself or even writing
Speaker 4: a forgiveness letter is one of the exercises which is
Speaker 4: so powerful, And often it will start with writing a
Speaker 4: forgiveness letter to someone else and you'll wind up writing
Speaker 4: it to yourself. So it might be a forgiveness letter
Speaker 4: for pushing yourself too hard, for example, or for getting
Speaker 4: caught in a toxic loop of thinking wondering about that
Speaker 4: X that you're always thinking about, or beating yourself up
Speaker 4: for not picking up the legos that your kids have
Speaker 4: left out. And actually, the more that we tell ourselves
Speaker 4: that we forgive ourselves, it releases energy and it opens
Speaker 4: up space for us to live happier days.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you so for people that haven't read
Speaker 2: your book, you know, I think a lot of times
Speaker 2: it's like we add books to kart right with this
Speaker 2: hope that organ like really go in all in on
Speaker 2: the process. If someone is new to you and new
Speaker 2: to the idea of your book, is this more like
Speaker 2: a work book? Is this adding things in every day?
Speaker 2: Is it an outlined thirty days? Like for someone I'm
Speaker 2: a little OCD and a little A type, So if
Speaker 2: I get behind, it gets a little all or nothing
Speaker 2: for me. So if I'm on day five and I'm
Speaker 2: a train wreck, then I'm like, oh, I'm just I
Speaker 2: just I have to start back over, like I recovering perfectionism.
Speaker 3: It's really tricky.
Speaker 2: So for someone who doesn't know this book, like what
Speaker 2: can you kind of outline maybe just the method in
Speaker 2: the way that you've written it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's a tool per day for thirty days,
Speaker 4: so you can take it as a thirty day challenge
Speaker 4: and it moves through your body, your mind, and your spirit.
Speaker 4: So there's so much change that you can create and
Speaker 4: allow for yourself. And it's also designed so you can
Speaker 4: flip it open and you know, like you would get
Speaker 4: an oracle card deck where you choose a card for
Speaker 4: the day, you can flip the book book open and
Speaker 4: just look at what chapter which is a couple of pages.
Speaker 4: It'll take you ten minutes, read that, do that exercise
Speaker 4: super practical and you'll notice the shift.
Speaker 3: Practicality matters a lot in the season of motherhood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am curious, as you said you were a stepmom.
Speaker 3: Were you married? Are you married?
Speaker 4: No, it was with my fiance. So she was like
Speaker 4: my bonus daughter for two years and it was amazing.
Speaker 3: She was five.
Speaker 2: Ah, and so you're not together anymore. No, So I'm
Speaker 2: curious when it comes to your own personal life when
Speaker 2: you're going through that and then you also have this
Speaker 2: as a job. It's like be positive, be happy, and
Speaker 2: you're struggling personally. So I know you have your list
Speaker 2: of gratitude and all those things, but is it hard
Speaker 2: for you to walk this line when you're also like
Speaker 2: I know, for me, when I was dealing with stuff
Speaker 2: my X, I'm like, am I, how are we preaching this?
Speaker 2: You can fight for this and you can work past
Speaker 2: this when I'm literally when we would hit end record
Speaker 2: or I don't trust him, I'm angry at him, and
Speaker 2: so it's like in more battling. And so it was
Speaker 2: very hard to live in that world where we're trying
Speaker 2: to be helpful to people, but then we're feeling like
Speaker 2: we're in a more underground Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I think that there's a personal line for each
Speaker 4: person about what feels right to share and what is
Speaker 4: private life. And I think that we get to decide
Speaker 4: what that is for us. I'm always I like to
Speaker 4: process my own experiences first and then share after, so
Speaker 4: I can share from a place of having got the
Speaker 4: learnings rather than being in it right now. And I
Speaker 4: think that's been a good practice or principle to follow.
Speaker 4: It's also led me to lead with way more compassion
Speaker 4: because I've had challenges in life, and certainly having like
Speaker 4: a public presence and a social media profile, you sometimes
Speaker 4: feel like you've got to show up all of the time.
Speaker 4: So I think it's having the the knowing that you
Speaker 4: get to look after yourself first, and you get to
Speaker 4: practice that self care, and you get to share what
Speaker 4: it is that feels all right to share when it
Speaker 4: feels all right to share it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: One of the best tips in your book that you
Speaker 2: haven't shared one last one just to get the listeners
Speaker 2: to go, Okay, this is I need to get this book.
Speaker 4: So dream big. One of my favorite chapters. It's about
Speaker 4: visualizing your best possible self and writing that out as
Speaker 4: a future version, and then asking yourself, how can I
Speaker 4: start to live as that right now? Because there's always
Speaker 4: a characteristic or something that we can start to do
Speaker 4: to be that person that we want to be in
Speaker 4: the future.
Speaker 3: I love that too. I want to do that. You're
Speaker 3: really dant time for me today. I need it to Kart.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: I saw this today and I was like, I just
Speaker 1: had this conversation last night. I can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: I even said to Jane, I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: even need to talk to her. I just need to
Speaker 2: be in the room today when this goes down, because
Speaker 2: I just needed a calm reset for my brain. I
Speaker 2: will say though, with Nick, when he was here yesterday
Speaker 2: with the Babes, he had mentioned something about money and
Speaker 2: I think he was he's in that like with real estate.
Speaker 3: He had made a comment. I'm like, okay, I just
Speaker 3: closed that he's a little stressed and it's always about it.
Speaker 2: He's old cat that we got to be really careful,
Speaker 2: and he goes, yeah, she's just she always says that,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but you always say that too, you know.
Speaker 3: I was a conversation we have. Yeah, So I was
Speaker 3: just kind of like, oh, he's he's stressed.
Speaker 1: If we haven't gone broke yet to be okay, I
Speaker 1: promise he just stress is about Money'll be.
Speaker 3: There any Sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm really just going back in for you, Nick, because
Speaker 2: really just need I need you today.
Speaker 3: You're like an ivy for me today.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you can share with us quickly
Speaker 2: that would that circles around the scarcy mentality? Because I
Speaker 2: know this time of year is stressful for a lot
Speaker 2: of people and a lot of businesses. You know, winter
Speaker 2: months are harder on just a lot of things like music,
Speaker 2: real estate, all of the things people or stress out
Speaker 2: about hosting family, about buying gifts. Is there anything that
Speaker 2: you can share around scarcy mentality that you kind of
Speaker 2: go to as like your go to gravity tool.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I think the first thing is to understand
Speaker 4: that our brains have a negativity bias. So the more
Speaker 4: negative stimulus or thought or feelings or things that are happening,
Speaker 4: the more positive we need to outweigh it. So you
Speaker 4: need three positive emotions or thoughts to redress the balance
Speaker 4: from one negative. And if you're in a marriage, it's
Speaker 4: more like eleven. Oh God, so ge see as well
Speaker 4: as replacing the positive, you also it's often more powerful
Speaker 4: to let go of the negative. So is there a
Speaker 4: situation or a person or a conversation that is continually
Speaker 4: looping in a negative experience in your life? And could
Speaker 4: you actually protect yourself from that and put yourself into
Speaker 4: more positive and less negative situations. And I think as well,
Speaker 4: it's just knowing that we're all stronger when we're together.
Speaker 4: So what I've learned is that there's so much power
Speaker 4: and vulnerability, and if you are in a place of
Speaker 4: scarcity or struggle, the more that we can connect together,
Speaker 4: the easier that it feels. And your relationships are the
Speaker 4: thing that's going to get you through.
Speaker 3: I love you. I amazing and our listeners find you so.
Speaker 4: I love hanging out on Instagram. I'm nickpige On there
Speaker 4: and then Nick Pigeon on the website as well.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on wind Down.
Speaker 2: We really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: We sure needed you today.
Speaker 2: Nick.
Speaker 3: Bye, bye, Bi girl.
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