WEBVTT - The Speed Junky 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.840 Speed junkie. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:09.319 Have we lost the room? 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.640 We've lost the room. I've certainly done that before. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:20.000 Oh god, yeah, stand up, convenience. It's a tough kid. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.919 It's a tough one. Okay, Tony you ready? 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:23.280 Yeah? 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.759 I am Lights out and away we go. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.360 Ooh, I'm not sure you technically are allowed to say 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.320 that or use that sentence. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:32.400 Actually, Michael, what do you mean? 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:33.600 It's owned by someone else. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.080 Somebody owns that sentence. You can own a sentence, yes, 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:38.000 what do you want? 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.600 A story time? 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:39.599 Yes? Story time? 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:40.000 Okay? 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.760 Crafty or David Croft, who's the legendary Sky Sports presenter 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.159 that you often hear on TV, started to introduce that 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.960 sentence lights out and awhere we go, which has become 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.280 iconic to basically, and I wonder if you do something similar, 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.240 but it gives him two or three seconds where he 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.280 isn't thinking about what he wants to say, but instead 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.320 he's just like analyzing the situation. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.920 So he owns the sentence. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.440 Well, technically, you can trademark a catchphrase, and in this case, 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:12.160 Crofty hasn't actually technically trademarked his opening phrase. But there 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.959 is a well recognized gentlemen's agreement that others don't use it. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.039 There are some lines that even this podcast will not cross. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:19.600 That's hot. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.200 Ah, I'm afraid sorry, you can't use that one either. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:24.600 Paris Hilton owns it. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.679 Oh my gosh, I love you that form My Heart 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.440 podcast one on one studios and Sports Illustrated Studios. This 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.640 is choosing sides. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:41.960 Yes one Wow. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:46.440 Wow, Hey guys, can you hear me? 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.000 Perfect? 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:47.960 This is Scott Mansell. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.840 I'm an ex professional racing driver with ten years of experience. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.360 I've driven over thirty Formula one cars. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.760 But he's also the founder of an immensely popular Formula 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.040 one YouTube channel called Driver sixty one with. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:00.680 One point two million subscribers. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.200 My name is Malone Colman. I am a staff writer 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.120 covering Formula one at the Athletic. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.880 Her thing, I guess you could say, is writing these 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.720 incredibly in depth and nuanced profiles of the drivers. So 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.200 she is actually someone who got to spend a lot 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.280 of time with the F one drivers and really experience 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.800 up close what it's like being a Formula one racing driver. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:22.640 Oh interesting. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.920 How would you describe you know, Max forstaff and how 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.600 would you describe Pierre Ghastly? I pivot the question around 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.560 to the drivers and have them define themselves. How do 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.280 you want to be seen in this chapter of your life? 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.400 It's a big question. They pause, They really do pause, 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:41.800 and kind I do a double take a little bit. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.200 Give us a little bit of an introduction. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:43.760 Who are you? 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.120 Where should we know you from? 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:46.239 I don't know. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.239 Bobria watching race cars going around. Yeah, I'm a race 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.600 car driver. I was very lucky to do Formula one 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.320 for ten years. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.160 This is Romane Grojean, the Phoenix, ex Formula one racing driver. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.760 Current car driver. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.519 Isn't Tony? Isn't he the guy who crashed, almost killed himself, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.240 jumped out of the burning car. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.240 Yes, and he has stories to tell about that moment. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.600 I'm gonna tell you a funny story. My wife always 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.360 complained that I was training too much. I was doing 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.200 too much geam, I was doing too much bicycle and 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.839 I didn't need all of that to be a race 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.120 car driver. And then at that accident in Bahrain where 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.079 sixty seven g impact got stuck in a car on fire, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:32.080 didn't lose consciousness, which is amazing, and was strong enough 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.040 to escape from being locked between you know, a barrier, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:41.960 a halo headrest and into far and just because I 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.960 was strong enough and fiting off and got the energy 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.680 to jump out of it, I made it. And since 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.280 then she's like, well, you can go as much as 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.160 you want the gym. So you know, it worked out 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.120 pretty well. You did all of. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.920 That homa to be able to spend more time in 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.640 the gym. How do you get back in a calf 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.400 or something like that? 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.560 Very very natural, very normal, of course, you know, I'm 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.200 not I'm not completely stupid. Had a bit of apprehension. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.640 I was not sure of what would it be like. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.960 And we go to race one and I'm there on 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.880 the grid thinking, Okay, who is it gonna go. It's 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.320 gonna be my first race start since the accident. But 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.760 once the engine started and we got rolling for the 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.360 formation up, all of those foots went away and it 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.640 was all about, Okay, how can I do the best 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.880 I can in that race? 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.880 Okay, so we can finally talk about speed? Is that what? 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:33.280 This is? 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:34.320 Absolutely all right? 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.760 Because actually let's start with the basics. How fast can 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.120 an F one car go? What's the fastest that it's 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:41.720 ever gone? 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.119 Okay, so as of six months ago, and I don't 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.240 actually think anything has changed surprisingly in the sport over 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.359 the last six months. The fastest recording speed was still 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.480 from valtwie Botas, and he did the fastest speed when 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.159 he was driving for Williams during the qualifying of the 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.640 twenty sixteen Mexico GP. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.680 Particularly mech because the circuit is at altitude and the 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.479 air is thinner, so there's less drag on the wings 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.080 of the car, which is why they go so quick. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.719 He was captured driving at three hundred and seventy two 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.400 point five kilometers per hour or two hundred and thirty 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.960 one point five miles per hour. Oh by that. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:26.000 Honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed right now. And I'll 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.640 have you know that a four gt American was clocked 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.400 at three hundred and ten miles per hour at the 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.479 launch and landing facility located in the Kennedy Space Center, Florida, 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.320 fastest three corps on the planet. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:43.560 Half like the Wow, good show, guys. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.080 Now, I know what you're gonna say, Well, what is 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.960 it in kilometers? I'm not going to answer that. I 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:54.600 don't know. This is an American show, Tony. But what 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.760 I do want an answer to is how is there 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.760 a faster car than Formula one? I thought Formula one 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.440 was the pinnacle of racing. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.000 Well over a lap, then a Formula one car would 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.000 be significantly quicker. They might not be the fastest thing 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.600 in the world in a straight line. It's partly because 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.920 they have lots of wings and aerodynamic devices on them, 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.520 and so there's a lot of drag. Right, It's like 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.479 pushing a big, a big flat pane or a door 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.680 through the wind, and it slows it down. But what 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.160 you give up in straight line speed you more than 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.080 make up for in the breaking areas and through the corners. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.720 It kind of has a superpower with downforce because the 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.960 quicker you go, the more downforce you have, Therefore the 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.120 more grip you have. Therefore you can go a bit quicker, right, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.360 So it's kind of extrapolates up with an aerodynamic car. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.600 Well, and that's what's fun about F one is all 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.600 the turns and stops and stop lights and speed bumps 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.919 and pedestrians. I think it's weird that they throw some 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.400 pedestrians in there. Sometimes that would be fun. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.560 It's funny to speed. We always have that question, how first, jogle, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.440 I have no idea. I don't know. I just you know, 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.279 the only thing I know is that whenever it is 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:04.960 a beep in my ear, I help shift to the 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.560 next gear, and whenever I reach maximum geal top top 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.760 end of the straight line, I breaked as late as 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.920 I can to make the corner. But it doesn't really matter. 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.320 If I was doing two hundred miles an hour two 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.760 hundred and twenty two, it does really doesn't matter. All 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.119 matters is or late did I break to make the corner, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.560 how much speed did I carry into the corner. But 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.840 on the street, I don't care. I don't even have 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.040 the information on my dash. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:27.960 This makes sense to me. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.720 We got that. Yeah, okay, you said something there that 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.880 I think new fans might find really interesting. You talked 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.480 about the beep that you get in your ear. Can 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:36.720 you explain what that means? 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.520 Yeah, every time we have it's the right timing to 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.920 get to the next gear. We have a beep in 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.240 O A and we upshift and some drivers, some of 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.880 my teammates hate it because, yes, it's a lot of beep. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.840 I mean, if you shift thirty five times at a lap, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.680 it's thirty five times you're going to get a bip. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.800 But at least it allows me to focus on what's 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.840 outside and not looking at the shift lights, so I 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.679 use it a lot. We have also won for anti stall. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.520 We have one for perimeter in and pitimeter out, and 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.240 we use different tones or different resolutions, so don't they 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.400 don't sound the same, so you know which one is what. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.680 But yes, that's it's quite funny that we just used that. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.320 So sure, give that souped up American muscle car and 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.880 end a straight line and eventually, eventually it will accelerate 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.760 faster than the Formula one car. But in any kind 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.400 of realistic chase, the Ford or any other car for 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.160 that matter, stands absolutely no chance whatsoever. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.320 But oh, there's a butt. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.600 There's a big butts, the big butt. Everyone. Cars are 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.680 only so fast in the hands of extremely capable and 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.200 talented drivers, of whom there are obviously only a handful 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:44.040 in the entire world. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.120 Right in mind that, I think there's more people going 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.840 in the space every year, and there's Formula one drivers. 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.680 And that is what we're going to talk about today. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.080 You have to think that it's a pyramids. It starts 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.360 with go kat There's a lot of kids that do 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.560 go kart. Out of those kids, the top one go 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.480 to the next level of single seater, and then they 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.640 do Formula four, Formula three, Formula two, so that the 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.240 perimeter already gets quite narrow at the top, and then 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.800 you've got Formula one. There's twenty guys in the world 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.360 doing what they do, so already out of every go 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.160 card single guys, you have taken maybe not twenty of 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.560 the best because there are different you know, the financial 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.640 aspect ons on. But I would say you have a 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.720 good seventy seventy five percent off the top of the 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.520 world at that level. So then between the drivers is 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.120 the tiny difference that you have, so, of course than 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.360 it's the card that does the definant part. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.559 Well, yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you. How 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.360 much of this is the actual driver? How much of 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.200 this this machine? I'm starting to get the feeling that 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.920 it's really more about the car, which is putting me off. 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.600 To be honest, you've just highlighted one of the hottest 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:48.959 topics in Formula one. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.559 Yes, I think the driver is five percent, machine is 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.440 ninety five percent. Sadly, really, yes, At at the highest 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.280 level of motorsport, the drivers are all very very talented, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.800 so the only the difference left is the car. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.440 The drivers, of course do make a massive difference, but 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.720 it's very difficult to compare them across team. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:15.600 It's always about the car, the driver and the teammate. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.959 So in Formula one, your teammate is both your teammate 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:25.280 but also your biggest competitor because only the two of 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.360 you are driving the exact same car. So whereas if 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.360 you look at the eighteen other drivers on the grid, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.680 you could argue, well, they've got a better car, or 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.840 they've managed to figure out the car and the regulations 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.320 this year, that's why they're faster. When it comes to 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.880 your teammate, you can't actually have that. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.360 Debate, right But if me and you are on a team, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.119 as our car exactly the same. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.280 Cars are never one hundred percent of the same just 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.560 because of materials, but most of the team try to 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.520 make it that, yes, both cars are the same. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.280 If there's an update in like the arrow or something 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.160 on the car, and the team can't produce a new 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.800 wing in time, they'll just send one to a race 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.680 and one of the drivers will get that and they'll 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.080 generally take it in terms. But the core of the 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.120 cars are saying. Where they might go in a slightly 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.160 different direction is with the setup now, of course, on 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.680 a Formula one car, you can change the springs, you 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.480 can change the damping of the car, you can change 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.800 the wings, you can change the roll bars. Going into 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.840 a bit too much detail here, there's many things that 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.120 you can change on a Formula one car, and so 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.400 the drivers might head off in different directions there, and 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.120 that's down to personal preference. The setup of the car 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.000 is kind of a reflection of their driving style. They 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.760 have to work together in order to extract the most 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.800 out of the car. It's why sometimes you hear drivers 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.600 say I've just gone in the wrong direction with setup 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.960 because they've headed down the route that they thought was 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.960 going to be quick and actually their teammate's gone a 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.160 different way and has ended up being quicker. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.120 But this is so hard to know if it's the 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.440 car or the driver. So like Max could just be 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.559 a badass driver driving a good car and he's dominating. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:58.880 So they're like, it's the car, it's the car, it's 0:11:58.920 --> 0:11:59.160 the car. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.760 I think that's true. I think the engineers building that 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.959 car to be as fast as it can with kind 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.719 of a driver, and the best drivers are the ones 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.000 who are able to adapt to the car that's been built. 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:12.320 For them. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.080 That is what is happening currently right now with Maxistapanie. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.440 Undoubtedly that he both has the pinnacle of cars. He 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.000 has the fastest car, the greatest car. He also is 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.400 one of the greatest drivers out there on track, if 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.440 not the greatest driver out there on track, right. And 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.880 what's been interesting and really hard for his teammates is 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.520 they have to match him, right, and they've struggled. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.520 Probably let check go through, please, let's check go back through. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.560 And we had Daniel Cardo, Pierre Ghastly. We now have 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.160 Checko Perez, let's check go through. And they're all struggling. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:42.760 Has Jugo won anything this year? 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.080 One they do? 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.200 They even let them win, Well, they don't let him Max. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:46.480 Max. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.240 That's the point, Max will let no one. Max is 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:50.800 sat in that car going I want to win everything, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.080 and they're like, you've already got the championship, Max. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.079 Let's check go through please, right, But I mean, if 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.240 Chugo is in first place, what won't they tell him 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.880 to back off so Max can go past them. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:00.840 I mean they've tried. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:03.480 I told you already last time. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.600 You guys, don't ask that again to me. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:06.839 Are we clear about that? 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.160 You've seen it over the years. The drivers just want 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.679 to dominate their their teammates, how they show their value. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.440 These are racing drivers, These are professional sports people. There 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.360 are one hundred percent selfish. The only way that they 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.760 will ever help each other out is perhaps in a 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.960 race when they're on completely different pitch strategies. You know, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.360 one driver is going for a one stop and needs 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.640 to look after their tires. Another drivers doing two stops 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.599 and is kind of racing back through the field and 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.319 needs to overtake. These drivers, they're made to win, right, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.240 That's all the focus. And if it looks like a 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:46.000 kind gesture, there's another reason for it. Yeah they're not. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.920 They're not just they're not just being kind. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.800 So if we put the entire grid this year in 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.440 one of those you know, Andrew Nui red bulls, what 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:56.000 would happen? 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.040 What would happen? As in who would win? 0:13:58.440 --> 0:13:58.680 Yeah? 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.000 You want me to pick it up? 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:00.360 Three? 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:01.120 Oh? Yes? 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:01.880 Do it? 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:03.000 Okay? 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.120 Puckus up on the edge. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:04.280 Here. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:09.080 This is purely off driving, right, We driver sixty one 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.600 are completely unbiased. I look at the drivers, you know, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.719 as if I was coaching them or working with them. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.360 It's got nothing to do with their personalities. But I 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.760 think off the back of this year, probably the Stappen, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:31.640 Leclair and Norris. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:39.160 We got to take a short break. Can you tell 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.000 me what the different skills are required to be a 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.560 good driver, to be a good fane driver. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.920 Well, you need the talent, you need the strengths, you 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.160 need the mental strengths as well. You need to be 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.640 a good communicator, good manager with your guys. You know, 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.360 they spend a lot of times around you. You need 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.560 to be good with the media and the market. So 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.360 it's it's quite a full job. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:08.040 Actually, to me, the most important thing is having like 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:12.040 a higher mental capacity. There is a lot of stuff 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.200 happening when we're out on track. You put a normal 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.480 person in a road car which is slow compared to 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.600 a formal one car, and they don't have enough capacity 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.920 to drive that thing quickly understand what you're saying from 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.560 the passenger seat, you know, when you're sat next to them. 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.840 These drivers are driving at two hundred miles an hour, 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.600 centimeters from the wall, changing the diff settings on the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.520 steering wheel, thinking about how they're going to overtake the 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.000 car in front of them, trying to manage the tires, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.640 and trying to think about the general strategy, all while 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.480 also thinking about if any setup changes, any wing changes 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.120 need to happen in the next pit stop. So the 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.960 capacity that these drivers have is just absolutely incredible that 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.080 they can absorb all of this information and most of 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.080 them sound reason then be calm when they're on the radio. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:05.240 Everything. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.720 I think when you look at F one, the physicality 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.480 of it, you're able to prepare for. That is something 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.360 that you can train from a very young age, and 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.160 you're able to do. When it comes to mental strength, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.240 that looks very different in each person, and everyone's going 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.920 to adjust very differently. Some people can very easily switch 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.600 the noise off, other people not so much. But it 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.800 goes beyond just you know, the traditional social media noise. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.560 When I was talking to Para, ghastly asked him to 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.440 walk me through what a race weekend looked like, and 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.040 it was the amount of scrutiny that they are under 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.640 at all times. At the minute that they leave their rooms, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.440 all lives are on them. And it's not just fans 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.080 and social media, it's also you know, engineers, it's talking 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.440 about the cars. It's data sensors that are on the 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.720 cars when they're going around the track. It's all the 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.439 cameras and the videographers that are within the paddock, the 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.880 social media team, sponsors, and it's a lot of pressure 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:12.640 to be able to do it. Yes, it's their job. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.400 Yes it's what they get paid to do. Yes, they 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.760 love it. But two things can be read at once. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.000 It can be a lot to take on and something 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.200 that they absolutely adore with their entire heart and want 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.440 to be doing so. I think when you look at 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.600 F one, the mental component, the mental strength that you 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.879 need to be an F one driver is so important 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.679 and a critical part of a success journey within F 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.520 one because you need to be fully turned on in 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.480 every way possible. 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.760 Some drivers are incredibly good at squeezing everything out of 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.280 the car, giving that perfect lap. This quality, this precision quality, 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.960 makes them qualifying champions. But being able to qualify this 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.360 I think this is one of the problems that charl 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.240 Leclair has is you can put everything on the line, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.359 do an incredible qualifying lap, be really good during the 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.159 qualifying sessions to keep up that consistency and perform in 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.160 the heat of the moment during the race as well. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.800 Because qualifying lap don't they just take your best lap, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.439 they take a single lap yes. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.520 Oh, all out one shot, put. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.080 Everything on the line, all the forgive my ignorance? Are 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.600 all the cars on the track for qualifying? 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.639 Yes and no, different times, different moments. And again remember 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.439 that conversation that we had about the degradation of the 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.760 track and is it hot is it cold? It's always 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.600 better to not be the first person. If you're the 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.639 second person, you can also get a toe. This is 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.280 when your teammate comes in. So there's all of those 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.280 little components and you'll often hear the drivers get angry 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:34.680 of like why did you put me out on the track? 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.160 Now everyone's out here, And that goes to the strategy 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.479 component of this was the absolute wrong time to put 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:41.600 me out to do my hot lap? 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:42.800 Right? I see? Okay? 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.520 And the consistency is key. Like some people we talked 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.119 about this when we talked about trusting your gut or 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.320 looking at the numbers and knowing where to hit every 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.200 single time. A driver like Esteban Ukhon is incredibly consistent 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.240 rarely makes those mistakes. Annex albums another example of you 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.919 know he's going to show up and rely driver, but 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.160 you might not always be very surprised by them because 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:04.919 they're just like, yeah, that's that's what I expected. Right 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.160 then we've got tire management and we discussed it at 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.399 lamp during our entire episode and. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.119 Got to be a huge skill the drivers need to 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:15.560 be good at. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.639 Yeah. The way I like to think of it is, okay, 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.280 you know, I'll start the race and push the first 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.679 few laps, and then I get into my rthom and 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.400 then I try to save as much as I can 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.840 on that entire life. So whenever I need it to 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:29.840 make a pass to push at the end of a 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.520 stint so on, I have got it left. And you know, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.160 sometimes you completely mess it out. I think last year 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.360 one stint in a race that we were doing really well, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.320 I pushed a little bit too hard from the beginning 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.520 and at the last six seven laps of the stint 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.040 was I was just hanging in there and losing position, 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.040 and I thought, you know what, that was stupid. I 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.080 should have done it differently at the beginning of a stint, 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.879 and I work work differently. But anyway, that's you know, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.560 you always learn. I'm normally decent at it. I like 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.560 it because I understand sliding effect. But yeah, I think 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.520 the best word for the one someone that doesn't know 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.919 is to remember that the tires of a life, and 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.880 they have a memory, so everything you take away at 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.160 the beginning, you know, it's like it's like on a bicycle. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.879 You have a certain amount of matches in your in 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.359 your back pocket, and every time you attack, or you 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.720 try to attack climbing or playing with his friend, you 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.480 burn a match and eventually you don't have any left. 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.239 Funnily enough, Paris, because we've been talking about check out 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.120 a bit. Parents is often referred to as the tire 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:36.760 whisperer exactly, though it does seem this season at least 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.400 whatever he's whispering to those tires, they aren't actually paying 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:41.240 attention and listening. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:42.880 Maybe maybe needs to yell at him. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:50.680 Just shouting at one of my favorites, which is still 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.440 tied to tires somewhat, which is driving in the wet conditions? 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:54.960 Does this come up a lot? Though? 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.280 Let me put a pin in that for because you 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:58.920 know what I'm going to say. We've got an episode. 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.960 Oh yeah, well I forgot about that. 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.640 We're going to have a whole episode dedicated to none 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:12.120 other than the weather. Yeah, one more reaction time. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.960 Yes, I was gonna say this, This needs to be. 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.680 There reaction time you can improve. Some people are more 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.600 natural than others, but you can improve while working at it. 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.680 You see them as they're training for the races. They're 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.760 playing with these tennis balls and they're hitting these lights 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:26.120 all over. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:30.160 Yeah, exactly obvious one is the start, you know, that's 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:34.200 so how fast react to the lights, But also in 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.119 any circumstances, I think the one we don't see is 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.960 the one inside the cow and there's anything happening in front, 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.520 and how quick you can react, how quickly can react 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.800 to debris flying, or quick can react to a car 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:47.280 spinning in front of you, how quick you can react 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.560 to reaction of the drive in front of you trying 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:50.119 to pass him. 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.399 Per official timing is a formula one. The fastest driver 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.440 to get off the mark is again Valcherie bot Us. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.879 At the twenty nineteen Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, he 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.280 recorded a reaction time of just noter point not four 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.200 seconds off the line. 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.840 Which is zero point zero second. I was going to say, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:09.640 and just translating your British. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:12.320 Is getting off the line really the big indicator of that. 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.600 You will hear some drivers go just I wasn't fast enough, 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.760 especially if you're on the front light, especially if you're 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.600 in the front two rows. The first person that gets 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:22.960 out of there and gets that driving line is fat. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.080 You have you definitely have, Yeah, definitely have a d up. 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.120 I'll tell you fun fact for you. We haven't done 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.320 one of those in a while. You know those five 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.200 lights that go out at the start of the rays 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.960 to indicate the race is starting. I never knew this, 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.439 but it's it's a manual button that's pressed. Oh I 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.000 thought it was automatic till not that long ago. But 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.560 there's an actual human that presses go the lights are on, 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:47.520 and then go the lights get. 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.440 Off, And when the lights are off, it's race time. 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:50.960 Where we go? 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:53.280 It's m M and awhere we go. 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.280 Okay, with all these skills, I noticed you didn't mention 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.720 sir Lewis Hamilton or Max for stepping at all. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:01.800 Michael Carsta is paying attention. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.160 I was paying attention, You were paying attention. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.720 I think this is because both of them have all 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:09.320 of the above. 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.600 The kind of best skill and the best driving style 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.960 to have is the one way you can adapt to 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:17.320 any of the cars. Now, don't forget that the cars 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:22.680 are changing race by race. They're actually changing within the session, right, 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.639 the circuit is changing. The balance between the front and 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.359 the rear of the car is changing as well, even 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:32.359 over a single qualifying lap. So when people talk about 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.120 the balance changing, they may turn into one corner and 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.399 the car might have understeerd, so the front isn't turning 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.720 as much as you actually want it to. And then 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.879 towards the end of the lap, the rear might be 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.960 sliding and giving way before the front. And so the 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:52.439 driver themselves can change their style, how they use the brakes, 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.480 how they turn the car, how they come off the brakes, 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.320 how they accelerate to manipulate this balance. So they're doing 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:00.560 it within a lap, they're doing it corner by corner, 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.520 they're doing it when the tires change, they're doing it 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.840 when the wind direction changes. But to a broader extent, 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:10.200 a driving style will change as a car develops over 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:15.320 the season and even year by year, and generation of 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.480 rule changes to generation of rule changes. Right, and so 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.480 when you look at the really good drivers, the Schumachers, 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.919 the Hamilton's of the Stappens, they're able to keep this 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.560 going over you know, different eras of Formula one, and 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.040 so they're the guys who can adapt they're the ones 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.520 who can change their style to extract the very most 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:35.480 from the car. 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:37.920 Where does experience play into all this? You talked about 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.560 reaction time being best with young drivers, but a lot 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.520 of this other stuff I would think experience would be 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:44.440 a huge benefit. 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:48.080 So where experience comes into this, it's kind of not 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.800 toning things down, but it's knowing when to not push 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.360 at one hundred percent, having the capacity to think about 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:58.040 a wider strategy, kind of picking your battles. When you're 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.280 a young driver, you just want to push a hundred 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.840 percent all of the time, and you know that's good 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.000 in most cases, but sometimes you just have to sit back. 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.440 Sometimes you don't need to go for that dive bomb move. 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.080 Obviously, your body needs a little bit more time to 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:16.440 recover the more advanced you go in your age compared 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.280 to when you were a youngster, So that's the difference. 0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.200 You just need to, you know, plan your travel a 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.120 little bit better, plan you sleep a little bit better, 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.440 make sure that you are more careful with your nutrition. 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:30.600 But racing is very particular in a way that we 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:37.280 train very little in our environment. Imagine football player, soccer player, 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.520 tennis player, whatever, and you're tell him that the only 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.080 place you can practice is at the matches, at the game, 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:46.639 and in between you can do you can go to 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.000 the gym, you can work and your reflexes, you can 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.600 do your cardiovascular or your bicycle or running, but you 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:57.080 cannot do your game. And I think that's what that's 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.240 what's very different in racing, you know. I think this 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.760 year in Indica, we're very lucky. We have five days 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.200 of testing, which is a lot. I think that's why 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.679 we can see in racing that drivers that are a 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.439 bit older or more experience. Did I say because I've 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.480 bothered them, we can still compete at the highest level 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.439 because we may have lost a little bit of that 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.359 craziness that you have at the beginning, but we have 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.320 the experience that the youngster don't have, just because we've 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.040 been spending more time driving cars. 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.119 When you look at the great drivers, right, Schumecker came in, 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:28.600 he did the same thing. He was really quick, but 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.239 he made a few mistakes. Hamilton came in, he was 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.520 very aggressive, he made quite a few mistakes and then 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.800 he toned things down. This happens them the same Leclair 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.000 was doing that but has continued. Unfortunately, he makes quite 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.720 makes quite a few mistakes. So whether or not that 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.159 will stop, whether that's because of the Ferrari or not, 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.920 we don't know. But you generally see the experience coming 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.280 with the great drivers at least, and it makes them 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:56.520 more consistent, and it makes them have better decision making skills. 0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.400 I noticed maybe all of this as a former athlete, 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.959 not at this level obvious, but there's no list of confidence. 0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.760 But probably if you have consistency, tire management, you know 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.080 how to drive in wet conditions and reaction time, you 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.840 have good confidence. But I would think a confident driver 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.280 is goes without saying otherwise, Boom goes the dynamite. 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.720 Boom goes the dynamite. And this is where I love. 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.320 Another trademark term boom goes the mast show it's not, but. 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:32.600 It's your right for the beginning. This is why I 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.280 like that we did the episode previously on social and 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.280 gossip and drama, because all the drivers will say this, 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.359 this is a mental game, and I don't think all 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.359 the drama and the gossip is actually helping the drivers. 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.840 I actually think it's hindering. And I think this is 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.440 what's happening with someone like Perez right now. Jecko, there 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.720 is so much noise around him, not being the right teammate, 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.439 not being good for his car, Daniel Ricardo coming for 0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.400 his seat like that has to mess with you. 0:27:57.520 --> 0:27:59.440 Yes, it's great to be standing in a podium. It's 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.240 awesome to be leaving those moments where the high super high, 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.320 but there also a lot of moment where the lowers 0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:10.560 are not that much seen and who alone you are 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.600 in those moments? You know, when you win, everyone is 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.920 with you. When you don't win, you end up being 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:16.880 very much on your own. 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.760 What's something that surprised you with some of these drivers. 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.439 What's something that's maybe like a misconception that we have 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.040 of these drivers or you know, we have this idea 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.280 that you have to be a fierce competitor and leave, 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.800 you know, leave nothing unturned and you know, do your 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.160 talking on the track, and it's it's a very sort 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.680 of stereotypical male like vision that we have of what 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.719 it takes to be a Formula One driver. I'm just 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.520 is that true or is there anything that's maybe surprised 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.560 you as talking with these drivers over the last couple 0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:46.080 of years. 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.320 I think that's it's the building to switch off if 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.760 you just waited, like a few more minutes after a 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.880 session before talking to them. There can be a difference 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.520 as you come down from that adrenaline high and the 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.000 best way possible. They are some of the fiercest competitors 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:03.520 I've met, but also several of the drivers are probably 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.959 the kindness people ever, very much kind of teddy bears. 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.040 They care a lot, not just about their job, but 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.000 also the people around them. When they feel comfortable, you 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.360 can kind of tell, like Lando constantly, I rarely see 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.160 him with like two feet on the ground. He's constantly 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.800 got like a knee up sitting in some kind of 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.120 like very much young twenty something positioned in a chair. 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.600 It's like a little detailed Most people would not notice, 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.120 but it kind of shows the comfort level that he 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.080 has with whoever's around him. But I think, if I 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.440 had to pick the biggest misconception, I think people don't 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:41.080 take into account that these drivers come from very different cultures. 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.160 Max Verstappen, for example, I think he's like the most 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.880 misunderstood driver in the entire paddock. It comes from a 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:52.560 Belgian Dutch family. Bluntness is part of the culture that 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.160 he grew up in, and so I appreciate that he's 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.160 like blunt and authentic and one hundred percent himself. He 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.800 is such an old soul. I feel like between hearing 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.840 how he talks about different things in general, like I've 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.880 talked to him before about social media and stuff, and 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.200 hearing how he's his approach to it, which is that 0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.760 he doesn't post, tweet nothing, I think it's interesting. But 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.600 how he approaches the sport I think is also kind 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.880 of similar in like an older mind. He's just very 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.240 much in sync with the card that he's in and 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.560 his level of knowledge is just more than I've seen 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:32.120 from some other drivers. But each driver's very very different. 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.320 I think the Maxim Steven this year is probably the 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.840 most authentic version of Max, and we've been able to 0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.200 see he's always one hundred percent himself with how blunt 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.920 he is and things like that, but he seemed more 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:44.640 at ease, more. 0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:48.480 Open, less with a ship on his shoulder exactly. 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:48.880 You know. 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.160 It's funny. I feel like every season I'm going through 0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.280 a bit of a journey myself. I have to admit 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.960 I'm coming from a very negative place towards Max Versteppan, 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.840 and I feel like this this season, I'm slowly being 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.240 warmed up to max for stepping, and I still don't 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:09.000 know how you feel about that. It's going to be okay, No, 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.320 I need to be open to change, you know, exactly, 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:16.320 open my heart to change. Change. 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:22.200 Damn it that you feel it too. If we're going 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.840 to devote a whole episode to speed, I hate to 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:30.080 be this guy. But pit stops stopping the words stop. 0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:33.200 You don't hear this ever in racing. It's the word stop, 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.000 but they have to take at least one pit that's 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:42.440 required requiet. Okay, yeah, it's also cool in racing race fastest, 0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:47.040 first place. You so rarely hear the word stop. Who 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:48.200 stops the fastest? 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.920 Right now? It's red Bull, Red Bull, and you have 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:55.560 it on top of their garage fastest pit stop. You 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.640 know how. There's the there's the driver Championship, and then 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.320 there's the Constructor Chammpionship. There's also the pit stop Championship, 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.560 and it's not an official championship, but you will hear 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.800 the Red Bull pit stop team actually be livid when 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.160 they lose it, and that has happened. 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.040 It's like who can rest the fastest? I don't think 0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.680 they're resting during these I know, but the word stop 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.880 is like stopping the car has stopped. 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.280 You do have a thing for four letter words, don't you. 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:25.280 It's kind of funny that there's a fastest competition for stopping. 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:30.000 Yeah, stand by for Michael kosh to congratulating himself. 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:30.959 I'm crushing it. 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.200 You are crushing it, Tony. I'm not sure that Costa's 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:34.880 ego needs any more inflating. 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.360 To be honest, what's the fastest pit stop error? Do 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:37.800 you know that? 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:42.320 I'm glad you asked. In twenty nineteen at the Brazilian GP, 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.760 the Red Bull needed just one point eight two seconds 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.080 to change four tires of the Maxims step in RB fifteen. 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.200 Red Bull is fascinating. They keep beating their own records 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:55.680 and they take it very serious. 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.400 There's only so much time left. Eventually it's gonna be zero. 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.600 But that again, we keep talking about that. It's the 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.760 incredible thing with these athletes. They keep pushing those numbers 0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.440 to you know, we never I don't think anyone in 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.480 Formula one fifteen years ago for we're going to beat 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.240 sub two seconds, and here we are. But there's a bat. 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.040 Oh, there's always a butt. 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.040 There's always a bat. Another team has actually beaten this 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:19.880 record just this year. 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:21.040 Threat. 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:22.480 Do you want to have a guest. 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:29.240 Who not Ferrari? Ferrari? Yeah, Ferrari's like they're putting the 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.560 toast in the toaster and we're waiting for it. I 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:32.320 don't know Mercedes. 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.520 You said Mercedes. I would have actually said Mercedes as well. 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.760 It's actually McLaren. McLaren pit Crew on Lando Norris's car 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.800 and it occurred during the Katar GP of twenty twenty 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.000 three and recorded it at one point eight seconds. So 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.360 you can best bet that Red Bull right now have 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.720 something else that they're gunning for. Hell yeah, which is 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.640 give us back our recorded pit stop. We want to 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:52.640 beat them this. 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.280 It's just occurred to me. It brought up a question 0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:00.000 in your guys conversation. Do you think, I mean, obviously 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.280 the records keep being broken in sports? Yeah, do you 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.480 think at some point we will plateau? 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:12.840 So my daughter loves high jump, okay, for whatever reason. 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.240 When I take her to play tennis, she just hangs 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.040 in the corner and kicks leaves. But her grandpa put 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.759 high jump on when he was visiting, and she's like 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.560 transfixed by it. No, it's when the Olympics when you 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:24.879 jump over the bar they. 0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.799 Never can no attempt a new world record of two 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:28.560 or nine. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.319 So she loves high jumps. She's like, you know, just 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.319 can't stop watching high jump. So as a parent, being 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.880 a parent, you get you dive into these topics you 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.120 never thought you even or gave a shit about the 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.759 world record for high jump has been stuck it since 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.000 like nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, so there, it is a 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.360 wonderful new world record. We will reach a plateau, you know, 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.040 at some point someone will break, but you keep thinking 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:54.440 humans will go high or faster. 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.839 In a way, it's disconcerting if high jumping is any 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.239 kind of harbinger or you know, a sign of where 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.360 we're heading is humanity. 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.600 I before you even said anything, I knew what you 0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.520 were going to say, and I tend to agree with 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.839 you on this, like have we maxed out humanity? And 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.319 if so, it's going to end soon, but hopefully not 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.840 before we've reason two of choosing sides. 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.440 Season three, you mean, oh shit, yeah you know what, 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.560 or just you're you're not even sure if we're going 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.040 to finish this very season. 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.880 I'm just hoping we could finish this Yeah. 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.359 Yeah, yeah, maybe that's better, more and more realistic achievable goal. 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.120 Let it faite the black. I'm going to watch the 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:35.919 fastest pit stop right now while you guys talk. 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.680 There's something there that I think, when it comes to technology, 0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.200 you can push the boundaries a little bit faster and 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.359 a little bit further than what you can do if 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:44.160 it's just human. 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.480 Right, that's true, that's true. 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:48.640 You should have been done now with your pit stop. 0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.680 Well, I watched the fifteen second ad first Lando Norris. 0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:57.200 Here it is this slap box, this slap about boom 0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.560 but bengales them a high five. Well, lump of coke 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:01.640 and off he goes. 0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.760 Gods, it's insane, right, you better have time to blink. 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.279 That is so cool. That's really fun to watch. I 0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:12.480 advise anybody to watch that and say, is this how 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.920 efficient I am at work? Because that's not how I work. 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.160 Get into the job, get out cool cool. Let's talk 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:20.840 about the people who do the stopping. 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:22.799 Before we dive into that. We got to take a 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:27.239 short break as promised. We are back. 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.320 Let's talk about the people who do the stopping the fastest, 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.480 the fastest stopping, and I think you might enjoy this. 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:37.440 The mechanics on the driver's team. So there's you know, 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.239 there's there's there's two drivers, two different teams. Each team 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:44.120 has different mechanics for each driver. They actually duplicate as 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.480 the pit stop crew. So the rison you can't if 0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.719 you wanted to Michael tomorrow, you cauldn't actually apply to 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.080 just be part of the pit stop crew. You would 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.480 actually have to do a full time job as a 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.359 mechanic battle. 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.680 Here's me tearing up my your applications. 0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.840 So no one is actually just a pit stop crew me. 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.800 But that's not an actual job in of itself. Rather, 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.520 they are doing this as an additional job and they 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:10.319 apply for it. It's a lot of the mechanics, but 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.440 not just the mechanics. It can be people in the 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.920 gearbox tech support team or the garage support team that 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.840 can apply to be part of the fastest team that 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:18.560 does the pit. 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:20.960 Stops, the team that slows down the fastest. 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.000 That's the third time you made that joke. 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.040 You know what the incredible thing is the pit lane 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.839 speed limit is a fairly recent rule change, Like they 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.480 never used to have speed limits. You'd see the drivers 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.000 come in as fast as they could and then leave 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:34.200 as fast as they could. 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:34.920 You know, in. 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.799 Senna's period and around that time, flutter all the way 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.719 through an accident in the pit lane now as a 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.640 Ferrari mechanic that's on the ground. 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.319 I'm guessing because I didn't say it happened, but it's 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:49.360 clear that a wheel came off the Minardi. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:50.879 There's a danger of. 0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:54.480 Cars coming in at high speed. 0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.400 A good pit stop also requires the driver to be 0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.360 sharp and hit that mark to absolute decision. 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:01.719 Right, I'm gonna click this link. 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.000 Let's check out this performance by Launce Stroll. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:13.080 The front jackman gets knocked over and immediately his reservist 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:18.680 is like, my turn, I'm going in. Yeah. It's like finally, dad, 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.160 did you see I've been waiting this whole time. 0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:20.439 Yeah. 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.680 In some ways, that reservist is waiting for the driver 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.320 to knock the other guy over. Let's be honest. 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:25.000 Let's be honest. 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.480 Yeah, sorry about thats a really cold well. 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.440 This is not an example of a great pit but 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.879 it's an example of the driver needs to hit their mark. 0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:33.799 He needs to hit the mark. 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.320 And it makes me laugh that we picked lancetroll fucking 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.200 up to show me because it fit fits perfectly. 0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.000 Stand by for a heartwarming display of empathy. 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:43.960 I don't really care that this guy got knocked over 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:45.080 shouldn't have been standing there. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.120 Literally, it's his job to stand there. 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.160 The other thing that I thought was really interesting, and 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.279 even though I've been watching the sport since ninety ninety one, 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.719 I only discovered this I think it was last year 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.480 that even though there are two teams mechanics engineers that 0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.480 work on the two cars, it's one team that does 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.319 the pit stop for both teams. Okay, so there isn't 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.839 a dedicated pit stop crew for Let's sake, Red Bull 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.239 for Checko, and a dedicated pit stop crew for Max. 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.360 I was wondering, like, they don't ever pit at the 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:10.960 same time, you can't write. 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:16.680 Double stack, so box box box box boxbox box box. 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.120 They will do back to back, which are so impressive 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:26.840 to this absolutely spots off proper perfection just when one. 0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.000 Works out the other one back again. 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.839 It's like a production and the choreography of that is sensational. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.640 It does look like a very well choreographed dance when 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.400 they pull off those double stack it is just so impressive. 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.359 I personally think it's one of the coolest things. 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.160 A double stack double stack. 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.960 Those selected to be on the pit crew practice per 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.680 season and mid season thousands and thousands of times, and 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:52.440 they do it daily. The teams also film and analyze 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.040 the pit stops to find where they can improve, and 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.080 you will often see the race engineers walking around the 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.400 pit stops and when they do it what look slightly 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.120 do it for the fans for the show, they're actually 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.960 doing it for them and you will constantly see them 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:09.320 analyzing this. Some pick crew practice meditation and mindful nurse. 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:18.320 Jack raise dire off dire On Jack, Raise dire off 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:24.520 dire On Jack, raise dire lof dire On. 0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:26.680 This is a very cool part of racing. 0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.399 It's weird that it's like it's this moment in time 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:34.240 where the racing kind of stops, Yeah, to be able 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.520 to go and raise bigger and better the moment that 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:37.600 exercise is done. 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.560 And you know what my least favorite part of life is, 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:43.080 but I've gotten older, I've had to adjust my thinking 0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:43.399 on it. 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.840 What stand by for another fascinating life observation. 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.440 Maintenance, Yeah, the daily maintenance of stuff. You gotta change tires, 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.520 sometimes you got to clean the windshield off, and if 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.960 everything is going well, maybe that's the time to think 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.440 about when you're going to do that. 0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.640 And you do before it's too late. 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.759 For it's too late, because those pit stops where it's 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.839 too late you're changing a wing or whatever those are, 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:08.880 those are gonn take forever. Do any of these little 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.240 tidbits ever make it in? I wonder the good ones? 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.920 And you actually bring out you actually bring up a 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.760 really good point, which is not not only does everyone 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.440 have a job to do, but the drive also has 0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.399 to hit that exact mark. And you will hear them 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.880 say if I stop a little bit too forward, a 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:27.840 little bit too left, the people actually have to move 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.799 out of their position to hit the wheelgun and then 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.279 in the exactly and that you lose half a second, 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.560 a mini second here and there, and so that I've 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.880 always found really impressive of how the drivers get to 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.440 hit that mark to perfection. 0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:41.640 Is there a break? Is it a foot break? 0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.320 It is a foot break, And actually most human beings 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:45.640 cannot push that foot break. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.719 Because you just got to hit it so hard. 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.719 You've got to hit it so hard. It's a phenomenal 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.160 if you're ever bought. There's a phenomenal video on YouTube 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.360 that is I think the title is can a normal 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.440 person drive a Formula One car? And this guide trains 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.680 for months and months with Formula one to figure out 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.960 and keep saying we can't let you out until you 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.200 hit the brake to one hundred percent and he can't then, 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.080 and he's like, I'm doing it, like you're about twenty 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.839 percent of the brake. We're gonna need you to get 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:08.000 to that. 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.080 What a soft man? Come on, bro, hit it. 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.399 When you put a normal person in a Formal one car, 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.239 they don't work the engine hard enough. You have to 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.840 get your ears and your senses adjusted to how high 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.759 a Formula one car revs. And so most people just, 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:30.439 you know, just trundle through the gears only using half 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.640 of the rpm. The problem is when you do that, 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.399 all of the hydraulic systems in the car run off 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.120 the engine, and so if the engine isn't turning over 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.840 quickly enough, the hydraulic systems fail and the car actually 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.840 turns itself off. And so that's another thing. You're constantly 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.600 telling the drivers to change down, change down the gears, 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.319 use the engine a little bit more. 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:54.440 I think there's one thing that's the hardest and most 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:58.719 annoying and frustrating the parties that people will never know 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.560 what it is to drive a Formula one car at 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.000 full speed just because it's you know, you can go 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:06.880 and play basketball and you can try to shoot a 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.520 three points basket and see you often you miss it, 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.080 especially myself. But and then you see Michael Jordan or 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.160 Lebron James and they do it, and it's just like 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.799 boom boom all the time. In you can go and 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.920 play golf and you can hit your driver and so 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:22.920 you do two hundred and twenty yards and then the 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.440 pros they do three hundred and they shoot, you know, 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.960 minus ten and you are plus thirty five eighteen hollers 0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.520 and Formula one car you cannot jump in. You can 0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:36.640 you cannot compare yourself as much as I would love to, 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.600 It's it's not possible. And I think that's that's one 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.320 of the hardest part in our spots for people to understand. 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.600 Final four. It's Michael, We're at the end. Are you 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.440 a speed junkie? Are you feeling it? 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.440 Yeah? I am. I Speed is Speed is everything to 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.360 the sport. Without speed, there is no f one. Speed 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.600 makes the steaks high, speed makes money come in. Speed 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:02.480 makes us watch it, Speed makes the pit stop more interesting. 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.440 Speed is everything. Speed Give me speed. I have a 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.839 need for speed. There's a freight trademark I should do 0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:15.440 because there's so much speed. The driver's skill is so 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:19.280 important because if they don't get it right, bad stuff 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:19.760 can happen. 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:21.880 And it's not just speed for one lap. They have 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.239 to do fifty plus seventy laps and they have to 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:25.120 keep that speed up. 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.080 Yeah, the speed is everything. I mean really, honestly, I 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.600 hate to whisper this into the microphone, but we could 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.480 eliminate all the other episodes and just talk about speed. 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.399 But can we No, we can't because we got ads 0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:39.239 to sell. Sult in. 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:54.400 This has been Choosing Sides f one, a production of 0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:59.480 Sports Illustrated Studios, iHeart Podcast and one oh one Studio Podcast. 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.240 The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown. 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.480 This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by senior 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:15.200 producer Jojai May Paddle. 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If F one is 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.800 the merger of Man and Machine, and we just spent 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.239 most of this episode talking about Man. Well, next week 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:18.759 we're going to shift our full attention to the machine. 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.680 Nerds. Yeah, suck at nerds.