Speaker 1: Speed junkie.
Speaker 2: Have we lost the room?
Speaker 1: We've lost the room. I've certainly done that before.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, stand up, convenience. It's a tough kid.
Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Okay, Tony you ready?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am Lights out and away we go.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm not sure you technically are allowed to say
Speaker 2: that or use that sentence.
Speaker 1: Actually, Michael, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: It's owned by someone else.
Speaker 1: Somebody owns that sentence. You can own a sentence, yes,
Speaker 1: what do you want?
Speaker 2: A story time?
Speaker 1: Yes? Story time?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Crafty or David Croft, who's the legendary Sky Sports presenter
Speaker 2: that you often hear on TV, started to introduce that
Speaker 2: sentence lights out and awhere we go, which has become
Speaker 2: iconic to basically, and I wonder if you do something similar,
Speaker 2: but it gives him two or three seconds where he
Speaker 2: isn't thinking about what he wants to say, but instead
Speaker 2: he's just like analyzing the situation.
Speaker 1: So he owns the sentence.
Speaker 2: Well, technically, you can trademark a catchphrase, and in this case,
Speaker 2: Crofty hasn't actually technically trademarked his opening phrase. But there
Speaker 2: is a well recognized gentlemen's agreement that others don't use it.
Speaker 2: There are some lines that even this podcast will not cross.
Speaker 1: That's hot.
Speaker 2: Ah, I'm afraid sorry, you can't use that one either.
Speaker 2: Paris Hilton owns it.
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Speaker 5: Wow, Hey guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 4: Perfect?
Speaker 2: This is Scott Mansell.
Speaker 5: I'm an ex professional racing driver with ten years of experience.
Speaker 5: I've driven over thirty Formula one cars.
Speaker 2: But he's also the founder of an immensely popular Formula
Speaker 2: one YouTube channel called Driver sixty one with.
Speaker 5: One point two million subscribers.
Speaker 6: My name is Malone Colman. I am a staff writer
Speaker 6: covering Formula one at the Athletic.
Speaker 2: Her thing, I guess you could say, is writing these
Speaker 2: incredibly in depth and nuanced profiles of the drivers. So
Speaker 2: she is actually someone who got to spend a lot
Speaker 2: of time with the F one drivers and really experience
Speaker 2: up close what it's like being a Formula one racing driver.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting.
Speaker 6: How would you describe you know, Max forstaff and how
Speaker 6: would you describe Pierre Ghastly? I pivot the question around
Speaker 6: to the drivers and have them define themselves. How do
Speaker 6: you want to be seen in this chapter of your life?
Speaker 6: It's a big question. They pause, They really do pause,
Speaker 6: and kind I do a double take a little bit.
Speaker 2: Give us a little bit of an introduction.
Speaker 3: Who are you?
Speaker 2: Where should we know you from?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Bobria watching race cars going around. Yeah, I'm a race
Speaker 7: car driver. I was very lucky to do Formula one
Speaker 7: for ten years.
Speaker 2: This is Romane Grojean, the Phoenix, ex Formula one racing driver.
Speaker 2: Current car driver.
Speaker 1: Isn't Tony? Isn't he the guy who crashed, almost killed himself,
Speaker 1: jumped out of the burning car.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he has stories to tell about that moment.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you a funny story. My wife always
Speaker 7: complained that I was training too much. I was doing
Speaker 7: too much geam, I was doing too much bicycle and
Speaker 7: I didn't need all of that to be a race
Speaker 7: car driver. And then at that accident in Bahrain where
Speaker 7: sixty seven g impact got stuck in a car on fire,
Speaker 7: didn't lose consciousness, which is amazing, and was strong enough
Speaker 7: to escape from being locked between you know, a barrier,
Speaker 7: a halo headrest and into far and just because I
Speaker 7: was strong enough and fiting off and got the energy
Speaker 7: to jump out of it, I made it. And since
Speaker 7: then she's like, well, you can go as much as
Speaker 7: you want the gym. So you know, it worked out
Speaker 7: pretty well. You did all of.
Speaker 2: That homa to be able to spend more time in
Speaker 2: the gym. How do you get back in a calf
Speaker 2: or something like that?
Speaker 7: Very very natural, very normal, of course, you know, I'm
Speaker 7: not I'm not completely stupid. Had a bit of apprehension.
Speaker 7: I was not sure of what would it be like.
Speaker 7: And we go to race one and I'm there on
Speaker 7: the grid thinking, Okay, who is it gonna go. It's
Speaker 7: gonna be my first race start since the accident. But
Speaker 7: once the engine started and we got rolling for the
Speaker 7: formation up, all of those foots went away and it
Speaker 7: was all about, Okay, how can I do the best
Speaker 7: I can in that race?
Speaker 1: Okay, so we can finally talk about speed? Is that what?
Speaker 4: This is?
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right?
Speaker 1: Because actually let's start with the basics. How fast can
Speaker 1: an F one car go? What's the fastest that it's
Speaker 1: ever gone?
Speaker 2: Okay, so as of six months ago, and I don't
Speaker 2: actually think anything has changed surprisingly in the sport over
Speaker 2: the last six months. The fastest recording speed was still
Speaker 2: from valtwie Botas, and he did the fastest speed when
Speaker 2: he was driving for Williams during the qualifying of the
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Mexico GP.
Speaker 5: Particularly mech because the circuit is at altitude and the
Speaker 5: air is thinner, so there's less drag on the wings
Speaker 5: of the car, which is why they go so quick.
Speaker 2: He was captured driving at three hundred and seventy two
Speaker 2: point five kilometers per hour or two hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: one point five miles per hour. Oh by that.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed right now. And I'll
Speaker 1: have you know that a four gt American was clocked
Speaker 1: at three hundred and ten miles per hour at the
Speaker 1: launch and landing facility located in the Kennedy Space Center, Florida,
Speaker 1: fastest three corps on the planet.
Speaker 2: Half like the Wow, good show, guys.
Speaker 1: Now, I know what you're gonna say, Well, what is
Speaker 1: it in kilometers? I'm not going to answer that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. This is an American show, Tony. But what
Speaker 1: I do want an answer to is how is there
Speaker 1: a faster car than Formula one? I thought Formula one
Speaker 1: was the pinnacle of racing.
Speaker 5: Well over a lap, then a Formula one car would
Speaker 5: be significantly quicker. They might not be the fastest thing
Speaker 5: in the world in a straight line. It's partly because
Speaker 5: they have lots of wings and aerodynamic devices on them,
Speaker 5: and so there's a lot of drag. Right, It's like
Speaker 5: pushing a big, a big flat pane or a door
Speaker 5: through the wind, and it slows it down. But what
Speaker 5: you give up in straight line speed you more than
Speaker 5: make up for in the breaking areas and through the corners.
Speaker 5: It kind of has a superpower with downforce because the
Speaker 5: quicker you go, the more downforce you have, Therefore the
Speaker 5: more grip you have. Therefore you can go a bit quicker, right,
Speaker 5: So it's kind of extrapolates up with an aerodynamic car.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's fun about F one is all
Speaker 1: the turns and stops and stop lights and speed bumps
Speaker 1: and pedestrians. I think it's weird that they throw some
Speaker 1: pedestrians in there. Sometimes that would be fun.
Speaker 7: It's funny to speed. We always have that question, how first, jogle,
Speaker 7: I have no idea. I don't know. I just you know,
Speaker 7: the only thing I know is that whenever it is
Speaker 7: a beep in my ear, I help shift to the
Speaker 7: next gear, and whenever I reach maximum geal top top
Speaker 7: end of the straight line, I breaked as late as
Speaker 7: I can to make the corner. But it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 7: If I was doing two hundred miles an hour two
Speaker 7: hundred and twenty two, it does really doesn't matter. All
Speaker 7: matters is or late did I break to make the corner,
Speaker 7: how much speed did I carry into the corner. But
Speaker 7: on the street, I don't care. I don't even have
Speaker 7: the information on my dash.
Speaker 1: This makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: We got that. Yeah, okay, you said something there that
Speaker 2: I think new fans might find really interesting. You talked
Speaker 2: about the beep that you get in your ear. Can
Speaker 2: you explain what that means?
Speaker 7: Yeah, every time we have it's the right timing to
Speaker 7: get to the next gear. We have a beep in
Speaker 7: O A and we upshift and some drivers, some of
Speaker 7: my teammates hate it because, yes, it's a lot of beep.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you shift thirty five times at a lap,
Speaker 7: it's thirty five times you're going to get a bip.
Speaker 7: But at least it allows me to focus on what's
Speaker 7: outside and not looking at the shift lights, so I
Speaker 7: use it a lot. We have also won for anti stall.
Speaker 7: We have one for perimeter in and pitimeter out, and
Speaker 7: we use different tones or different resolutions, so don't they
Speaker 7: don't sound the same, so you know which one is what.
Speaker 7: But yes, that's it's quite funny that we just used that.
Speaker 2: So sure, give that souped up American muscle car and
Speaker 2: end a straight line and eventually, eventually it will accelerate
Speaker 2: faster than the Formula one car. But in any kind
Speaker 2: of realistic chase, the Ford or any other car for
Speaker 2: that matter, stands absolutely no chance whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But oh, there's a butt.
Speaker 2: There's a big butts, the big butt. Everyone. Cars are
Speaker 2: only so fast in the hands of extremely capable and
Speaker 2: talented drivers, of whom there are obviously only a handful
Speaker 2: in the entire world.
Speaker 7: Right in mind that, I think there's more people going
Speaker 7: in the space every year, and there's Formula one drivers.
Speaker 2: And that is what we're going to talk about today.
Speaker 7: You have to think that it's a pyramids. It starts
Speaker 7: with go kat There's a lot of kids that do
Speaker 7: go kart. Out of those kids, the top one go
Speaker 7: to the next level of single seater, and then they
Speaker 7: do Formula four, Formula three, Formula two, so that the
Speaker 7: perimeter already gets quite narrow at the top, and then
Speaker 7: you've got Formula one. There's twenty guys in the world
Speaker 7: doing what they do, so already out of every go
Speaker 7: card single guys, you have taken maybe not twenty of
Speaker 7: the best because there are different you know, the financial
Speaker 7: aspect ons on. But I would say you have a
Speaker 7: good seventy seventy five percent off the top of the
Speaker 7: world at that level. So then between the drivers is
Speaker 7: the tiny difference that you have, so, of course than
Speaker 7: it's the card that does the definant part.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you. How
Speaker 1: much of this is the actual driver? How much of
Speaker 1: this this machine? I'm starting to get the feeling that
Speaker 1: it's really more about the car, which is putting me off.
Speaker 2: To be honest, you've just highlighted one of the hottest
Speaker 2: topics in Formula one.
Speaker 7: Yes, I think the driver is five percent, machine is
Speaker 7: ninety five percent. Sadly, really, yes, At at the highest
Speaker 7: level of motorsport, the drivers are all very very talented,
Speaker 7: so the only the difference left is the car.
Speaker 5: The drivers, of course do make a massive difference, but
Speaker 5: it's very difficult to compare them across team.
Speaker 2: It's always about the car, the driver and the teammate.
Speaker 2: So in Formula one, your teammate is both your teammate
Speaker 2: but also your biggest competitor because only the two of
Speaker 2: you are driving the exact same car. So whereas if
Speaker 2: you look at the eighteen other drivers on the grid,
Speaker 2: you could argue, well, they've got a better car, or
Speaker 2: they've managed to figure out the car and the regulations
Speaker 2: this year, that's why they're faster. When it comes to
Speaker 2: your teammate, you can't actually have that.
Speaker 1: Debate, right But if me and you are on a team,
Speaker 1: as our car exactly the same.
Speaker 7: Cars are never one hundred percent of the same just
Speaker 7: because of materials, but most of the team try to
Speaker 7: make it that, yes, both cars are the same.
Speaker 5: If there's an update in like the arrow or something
Speaker 5: on the car, and the team can't produce a new
Speaker 5: wing in time, they'll just send one to a race
Speaker 5: and one of the drivers will get that and they'll
Speaker 5: generally take it in terms. But the core of the
Speaker 5: cars are saying. Where they might go in a slightly
Speaker 5: different direction is with the setup now, of course, on
Speaker 5: a Formula one car, you can change the springs, you
Speaker 5: can change the damping of the car, you can change
Speaker 5: the wings, you can change the roll bars. Going into
Speaker 5: a bit too much detail here, there's many things that
Speaker 5: you can change on a Formula one car, and so
Speaker 5: the drivers might head off in different directions there, and
Speaker 5: that's down to personal preference. The setup of the car
Speaker 5: is kind of a reflection of their driving style. They
Speaker 5: have to work together in order to extract the most
Speaker 5: out of the car. It's why sometimes you hear drivers
Speaker 5: say I've just gone in the wrong direction with setup
Speaker 5: because they've headed down the route that they thought was
Speaker 5: going to be quick and actually their teammate's gone a
Speaker 5: different way and has ended up being quicker.
Speaker 1: But this is so hard to know if it's the
Speaker 1: car or the driver. So like Max could just be
Speaker 1: a badass driver driving a good car and he's dominating.
Speaker 1: So they're like, it's the car, it's the car, it's
Speaker 1: the car.
Speaker 5: I think that's true. I think the engineers building that
Speaker 5: car to be as fast as it can with kind
Speaker 5: of a driver, and the best drivers are the ones
Speaker 5: who are able to adapt to the car that's been built.
Speaker 5: For them.
Speaker 2: That is what is happening currently right now with Maxistapanie.
Speaker 2: Undoubtedly that he both has the pinnacle of cars. He
Speaker 2: has the fastest car, the greatest car. He also is
Speaker 2: one of the greatest drivers out there on track, if
Speaker 2: not the greatest driver out there on track, right. And
Speaker 2: what's been interesting and really hard for his teammates is
Speaker 2: they have to match him, right, and they've struggled.
Speaker 1: Probably let check go through, please, let's check go back through.
Speaker 2: And we had Daniel Cardo, Pierre Ghastly. We now have
Speaker 2: Checko Perez, let's check go through. And they're all struggling.
Speaker 1: Has Jugo won anything this year?
Speaker 2: One they do?
Speaker 1: They even let them win, Well, they don't let him Max.
Speaker 3: Max.
Speaker 2: That's the point, Max will let no one. Max is
Speaker 2: sat in that car going I want to win everything,
Speaker 2: and they're like, you've already got the championship, Max.
Speaker 1: Let's check go through please, right, But I mean, if
Speaker 1: Chugo is in first place, what won't they tell him
Speaker 1: to back off so Max can go past them.
Speaker 2: I mean they've tried.
Speaker 4: I told you already last time.
Speaker 1: You guys, don't ask that again to me.
Speaker 4: Are we clear about that?
Speaker 5: You've seen it over the years. The drivers just want
Speaker 5: to dominate their their teammates, how they show their value.
Speaker 5: These are racing drivers, These are professional sports people. There
Speaker 5: are one hundred percent selfish. The only way that they
Speaker 5: will ever help each other out is perhaps in a
Speaker 5: race when they're on completely different pitch strategies. You know,
Speaker 5: one driver is going for a one stop and needs
Speaker 5: to look after their tires. Another drivers doing two stops
Speaker 5: and is kind of racing back through the field and
Speaker 5: needs to overtake. These drivers, they're made to win, right,
Speaker 5: That's all the focus. And if it looks like a
Speaker 5: kind gesture, there's another reason for it. Yeah they're not.
Speaker 5: They're not just they're not just being kind.
Speaker 4: So if we put the entire grid this year in
Speaker 4: one of those you know, Andrew Nui red bulls, what
Speaker 4: would happen?
Speaker 5: What would happen? As in who would win?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You want me to pick it up?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes?
Speaker 8: Do it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: Puckus up on the edge.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 5: This is purely off driving, right, We driver sixty one
Speaker 5: are completely unbiased. I look at the drivers, you know,
Speaker 5: as if I was coaching them or working with them.
Speaker 5: It's got nothing to do with their personalities. But I
Speaker 5: think off the back of this year, probably the Stappen,
Speaker 5: Leclair and Norris.
Speaker 1: We got to take a short break. Can you tell
Speaker 1: me what the different skills are required to be a
Speaker 1: good driver, to be a good fane driver.
Speaker 7: Well, you need the talent, you need the strengths, you
Speaker 7: need the mental strengths as well. You need to be
Speaker 7: a good communicator, good manager with your guys. You know,
Speaker 7: they spend a lot of times around you. You need
Speaker 7: to be good with the media and the market. So
Speaker 7: it's it's quite a full job.
Speaker 5: Actually, to me, the most important thing is having like
Speaker 5: a higher mental capacity. There is a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: happening when we're out on track. You put a normal
Speaker 5: person in a road car which is slow compared to
Speaker 5: a formal one car, and they don't have enough capacity
Speaker 5: to drive that thing quickly understand what you're saying from
Speaker 5: the passenger seat, you know, when you're sat next to them.
Speaker 5: These drivers are driving at two hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 5: centimeters from the wall, changing the diff settings on the
Speaker 5: steering wheel, thinking about how they're going to overtake the
Speaker 5: car in front of them, trying to manage the tires,
Speaker 5: and trying to think about the general strategy, all while
Speaker 5: also thinking about if any setup changes, any wing changes
Speaker 5: need to happen in the next pit stop. So the
Speaker 5: capacity that these drivers have is just absolutely incredible that
Speaker 5: they can absorb all of this information and most of
Speaker 5: them sound reason then be calm when they're on the radio.
Speaker 1: Everything.
Speaker 6: I think when you look at F one, the physicality
Speaker 6: of it, you're able to prepare for. That is something
Speaker 6: that you can train from a very young age, and
Speaker 6: you're able to do. When it comes to mental strength,
Speaker 6: that looks very different in each person, and everyone's going
Speaker 6: to adjust very differently. Some people can very easily switch
Speaker 6: the noise off, other people not so much. But it
Speaker 6: goes beyond just you know, the traditional social media noise.
Speaker 6: When I was talking to Para, ghastly asked him to
Speaker 6: walk me through what a race weekend looked like, and
Speaker 6: it was the amount of scrutiny that they are under
Speaker 6: at all times. At the minute that they leave their rooms,
Speaker 6: all lives are on them. And it's not just fans
Speaker 6: and social media, it's also you know, engineers, it's talking
Speaker 6: about the cars. It's data sensors that are on the
Speaker 6: cars when they're going around the track. It's all the
Speaker 6: cameras and the videographers that are within the paddock, the
Speaker 6: social media team, sponsors, and it's a lot of pressure
Speaker 6: to be able to do it. Yes, it's their job.
Speaker 6: Yes it's what they get paid to do. Yes, they
Speaker 6: love it. But two things can be read at once.
Speaker 6: It can be a lot to take on and something
Speaker 6: that they absolutely adore with their entire heart and want
Speaker 6: to be doing so. I think when you look at
Speaker 6: F one, the mental component, the mental strength that you
Speaker 6: need to be an F one driver is so important
Speaker 6: and a critical part of a success journey within F
Speaker 6: one because you need to be fully turned on in
Speaker 6: every way possible.
Speaker 2: Some drivers are incredibly good at squeezing everything out of
Speaker 2: the car, giving that perfect lap. This quality, this precision quality,
Speaker 2: makes them qualifying champions. But being able to qualify this
Speaker 2: I think this is one of the problems that charl
Speaker 2: Leclair has is you can put everything on the line,
Speaker 2: do an incredible qualifying lap, be really good during the
Speaker 2: qualifying sessions to keep up that consistency and perform in
Speaker 2: the heat of the moment during the race as well.
Speaker 1: Because qualifying lap don't they just take your best lap,
Speaker 1: they take a single lap yes.
Speaker 2: Oh, all out one shot, put.
Speaker 1: Everything on the line, all the forgive my ignorance? Are
Speaker 1: all the cars on the track for qualifying?
Speaker 2: Yes and no, different times, different moments. And again remember
Speaker 2: that conversation that we had about the degradation of the
Speaker 2: track and is it hot is it cold? It's always
Speaker 2: better to not be the first person. If you're the
Speaker 2: second person, you can also get a toe. This is
Speaker 2: when your teammate comes in. So there's all of those
Speaker 2: little components and you'll often hear the drivers get angry
Speaker 2: of like why did you put me out on the track?
Speaker 2: Now everyone's out here, And that goes to the strategy
Speaker 2: component of this was the absolute wrong time to put
Speaker 2: me out to do my hot lap?
Speaker 1: Right? I see? Okay?
Speaker 2: And the consistency is key. Like some people we talked
Speaker 2: about this when we talked about trusting your gut or
Speaker 2: looking at the numbers and knowing where to hit every
Speaker 2: single time. A driver like Esteban Ukhon is incredibly consistent
Speaker 2: rarely makes those mistakes. Annex albums another example of you
Speaker 2: know he's going to show up and rely driver, but
Speaker 2: you might not always be very surprised by them because
Speaker 2: they're just like, yeah, that's that's what I expected. Right
Speaker 2: then we've got tire management and we discussed it at
Speaker 2: lamp during our entire episode and.
Speaker 1: Got to be a huge skill the drivers need to
Speaker 1: be good at.
Speaker 7: Yeah. The way I like to think of it is, okay,
Speaker 7: you know, I'll start the race and push the first
Speaker 7: few laps, and then I get into my rthom and
Speaker 7: then I try to save as much as I can
Speaker 7: on that entire life. So whenever I need it to
Speaker 7: make a pass to push at the end of a
Speaker 7: stint so on, I have got it left. And you know,
Speaker 7: sometimes you completely mess it out. I think last year
Speaker 7: one stint in a race that we were doing really well,
Speaker 7: I pushed a little bit too hard from the beginning
Speaker 7: and at the last six seven laps of the stint
Speaker 7: was I was just hanging in there and losing position,
Speaker 7: and I thought, you know what, that was stupid. I
Speaker 7: should have done it differently at the beginning of a stint,
Speaker 7: and I work work differently. But anyway, that's you know,
Speaker 7: you always learn. I'm normally decent at it. I like
Speaker 7: it because I understand sliding effect. But yeah, I think
Speaker 7: the best word for the one someone that doesn't know
Speaker 7: is to remember that the tires of a life, and
Speaker 7: they have a memory, so everything you take away at
Speaker 7: the beginning, you know, it's like it's like on a bicycle.
Speaker 7: You have a certain amount of matches in your in
Speaker 7: your back pocket, and every time you attack, or you
Speaker 7: try to attack climbing or playing with his friend, you
Speaker 7: burn a match and eventually you don't have any left.
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, Paris, because we've been talking about check out
Speaker 2: a bit. Parents is often referred to as the tire
Speaker 2: whisperer exactly, though it does seem this season at least
Speaker 2: whatever he's whispering to those tires, they aren't actually paying
Speaker 2: attention and listening.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe needs to yell at him.
Speaker 2: Just shouting at one of my favorites, which is still
Speaker 2: tied to tires somewhat, which is driving in the wet conditions?
Speaker 1: Does this come up a lot? Though?
Speaker 2: Let me put a pin in that for because you
Speaker 2: know what I'm going to say. We've got an episode.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: We're going to have a whole episode dedicated to none
Speaker 2: other than the weather. Yeah, one more reaction time.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was gonna say this, This needs to be.
Speaker 7: There reaction time you can improve. Some people are more
Speaker 7: natural than others, but you can improve while working at it.
Speaker 2: You see them as they're training for the races. They're
Speaker 2: playing with these tennis balls and they're hitting these lights
Speaker 2: all over.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly obvious one is the start, you know, that's
Speaker 7: so how fast react to the lights, But also in
Speaker 7: any circumstances, I think the one we don't see is
Speaker 7: the one inside the cow and there's anything happening in front,
Speaker 7: and how quick you can react, how quickly can react
Speaker 7: to debris flying, or quick can react to a car
Speaker 7: spinning in front of you, how quick you can react
Speaker 7: to reaction of the drive in front of you trying
Speaker 7: to pass him.
Speaker 2: Per official timing is a formula one. The fastest driver
Speaker 2: to get off the mark is again Valcherie bot Us.
Speaker 2: At the twenty nineteen Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, he
Speaker 2: recorded a reaction time of just noter point not four
Speaker 2: seconds off the line.
Speaker 4: Which is zero point zero second. I was going to say,
Speaker 4: and just translating your British.
Speaker 1: Is getting off the line really the big indicator of that.
Speaker 2: You will hear some drivers go just I wasn't fast enough,
Speaker 2: especially if you're on the front light, especially if you're
Speaker 2: in the front two rows. The first person that gets
Speaker 2: out of there and gets that driving line is fat.
Speaker 2: You have you definitely have, Yeah, definitely have a d up.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you fun fact for you. We haven't done
Speaker 2: one of those in a while. You know those five
Speaker 2: lights that go out at the start of the rays
Speaker 2: to indicate the race is starting. I never knew this,
Speaker 2: but it's it's a manual button that's pressed. Oh I
Speaker 2: thought it was automatic till not that long ago. But
Speaker 2: there's an actual human that presses go the lights are on,
Speaker 2: and then go the lights get.
Speaker 1: Off, And when the lights are off, it's race time.
Speaker 1: Where we go?
Speaker 2: It's m M and awhere we go.
Speaker 1: Okay, with all these skills, I noticed you didn't mention
Speaker 1: sir Lewis Hamilton or Max for stepping at all.
Speaker 3: Michael Carsta is paying attention.
Speaker 1: I was paying attention, You were paying attention.
Speaker 2: I think this is because both of them have all
Speaker 2: of the above.
Speaker 5: The kind of best skill and the best driving style
Speaker 5: to have is the one way you can adapt to
Speaker 5: any of the cars. Now, don't forget that the cars
Speaker 5: are changing race by race. They're actually changing within the session, right,
Speaker 5: the circuit is changing. The balance between the front and
Speaker 5: the rear of the car is changing as well, even
Speaker 5: over a single qualifying lap. So when people talk about
Speaker 5: the balance changing, they may turn into one corner and
Speaker 5: the car might have understeerd, so the front isn't turning
Speaker 5: as much as you actually want it to. And then
Speaker 5: towards the end of the lap, the rear might be
Speaker 5: sliding and giving way before the front. And so the
Speaker 5: driver themselves can change their style, how they use the brakes,
Speaker 5: how they turn the car, how they come off the brakes,
Speaker 5: how they accelerate to manipulate this balance. So they're doing
Speaker 5: it within a lap, they're doing it corner by corner,
Speaker 5: they're doing it when the tires change, they're doing it
Speaker 5: when the wind direction changes. But to a broader extent,
Speaker 5: a driving style will change as a car develops over
Speaker 5: the season and even year by year, and generation of
Speaker 5: rule changes to generation of rule changes. Right, and so
Speaker 5: when you look at the really good drivers, the Schumachers,
Speaker 5: the Hamilton's of the Stappens, they're able to keep this
Speaker 5: going over you know, different eras of Formula one, and
Speaker 5: so they're the guys who can adapt they're the ones
Speaker 5: who can change their style to extract the very most
Speaker 5: from the car.
Speaker 1: Where does experience play into all this? You talked about
Speaker 1: reaction time being best with young drivers, but a lot
Speaker 1: of this other stuff I would think experience would be
Speaker 1: a huge benefit.
Speaker 5: So where experience comes into this, it's kind of not
Speaker 5: toning things down, but it's knowing when to not push
Speaker 5: at one hundred percent, having the capacity to think about
Speaker 5: a wider strategy, kind of picking your battles. When you're
Speaker 5: a young driver, you just want to push a hundred
Speaker 5: percent all of the time, and you know that's good
Speaker 5: in most cases, but sometimes you just have to sit back.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't need to go for that dive bomb move.
Speaker 7: Obviously, your body needs a little bit more time to
Speaker 7: recover the more advanced you go in your age compared
Speaker 7: to when you were a youngster, So that's the difference.
Speaker 7: You just need to, you know, plan your travel a
Speaker 7: little bit better, plan you sleep a little bit better,
Speaker 7: make sure that you are more careful with your nutrition.
Speaker 7: But racing is very particular in a way that we
Speaker 7: train very little in our environment. Imagine football player, soccer player,
Speaker 7: tennis player, whatever, and you're tell him that the only
Speaker 7: place you can practice is at the matches, at the game,
Speaker 7: and in between you can do you can go to
Speaker 7: the gym, you can work and your reflexes, you can
Speaker 7: do your cardiovascular or your bicycle or running, but you
Speaker 7: cannot do your game. And I think that's what that's
Speaker 7: what's very different in racing, you know. I think this
Speaker 7: year in Indica, we're very lucky. We have five days
Speaker 7: of testing, which is a lot. I think that's why
Speaker 7: we can see in racing that drivers that are a
Speaker 7: bit older or more experience. Did I say because I've
Speaker 7: bothered them, we can still compete at the highest level
Speaker 7: because we may have lost a little bit of that
Speaker 7: craziness that you have at the beginning, but we have
Speaker 7: the experience that the youngster don't have, just because we've
Speaker 7: been spending more time driving cars.
Speaker 5: When you look at the great drivers, right, Schumecker came in,
Speaker 5: he did the same thing. He was really quick, but
Speaker 5: he made a few mistakes. Hamilton came in, he was
Speaker 5: very aggressive, he made quite a few mistakes and then
Speaker 5: he toned things down. This happens them the same Leclair
Speaker 5: was doing that but has continued. Unfortunately, he makes quite
Speaker 5: makes quite a few mistakes. So whether or not that
Speaker 5: will stop, whether that's because of the Ferrari or not,
Speaker 5: we don't know. But you generally see the experience coming
Speaker 5: with the great drivers at least, and it makes them
Speaker 5: more consistent, and it makes them have better decision making skills.
Speaker 1: I noticed maybe all of this as a former athlete,
Speaker 1: not at this level obvious, but there's no list of confidence.
Speaker 1: But probably if you have consistency, tire management, you know
Speaker 1: how to drive in wet conditions and reaction time, you
Speaker 1: have good confidence. But I would think a confident driver
Speaker 1: is goes without saying otherwise, Boom goes the dynamite.
Speaker 2: Boom goes the dynamite. And this is where I love.
Speaker 1: Another trademark term boom goes the mast show it's not, but.
Speaker 2: It's your right for the beginning. This is why I
Speaker 2: like that we did the episode previously on social and
Speaker 2: gossip and drama, because all the drivers will say this,
Speaker 2: this is a mental game, and I don't think all
Speaker 2: the drama and the gossip is actually helping the drivers.
Speaker 2: I actually think it's hindering. And I think this is
Speaker 2: what's happening with someone like Perez right now. Jecko, there
Speaker 2: is so much noise around him, not being the right teammate,
Speaker 2: not being good for his car, Daniel Ricardo coming for
Speaker 2: his seat like that has to mess with you.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's great to be standing in a podium. It's
Speaker 7: awesome to be leaving those moments where the high super high,
Speaker 7: but there also a lot of moment where the lowers
Speaker 7: are not that much seen and who alone you are
Speaker 7: in those moments? You know, when you win, everyone is
Speaker 7: with you. When you don't win, you end up being
Speaker 7: very much on your own.
Speaker 2: What's something that surprised you with some of these drivers.
Speaker 2: What's something that's maybe like a misconception that we have
Speaker 2: of these drivers or you know, we have this idea
Speaker 2: that you have to be a fierce competitor and leave,
Speaker 2: you know, leave nothing unturned and you know, do your
Speaker 2: talking on the track, and it's it's a very sort
Speaker 2: of stereotypical male like vision that we have of what
Speaker 2: it takes to be a Formula One driver. I'm just
Speaker 2: is that true or is there anything that's maybe surprised
Speaker 2: you as talking with these drivers over the last couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 6: I think that's it's the building to switch off if
Speaker 6: you just waited, like a few more minutes after a
Speaker 6: session before talking to them. There can be a difference
Speaker 6: as you come down from that adrenaline high and the
Speaker 6: best way possible. They are some of the fiercest competitors
Speaker 6: I've met, but also several of the drivers are probably
Speaker 6: the kindness people ever, very much kind of teddy bears.
Speaker 6: They care a lot, not just about their job, but
Speaker 6: also the people around them. When they feel comfortable, you
Speaker 6: can kind of tell, like Lando constantly, I rarely see
Speaker 6: him with like two feet on the ground. He's constantly
Speaker 6: got like a knee up sitting in some kind of
Speaker 6: like very much young twenty something positioned in a chair.
Speaker 6: It's like a little detailed Most people would not notice,
Speaker 6: but it kind of shows the comfort level that he
Speaker 6: has with whoever's around him. But I think, if I
Speaker 6: had to pick the biggest misconception, I think people don't
Speaker 6: take into account that these drivers come from very different cultures.
Speaker 6: Max Verstappen, for example, I think he's like the most
Speaker 6: misunderstood driver in the entire paddock. It comes from a
Speaker 6: Belgian Dutch family. Bluntness is part of the culture that
Speaker 6: he grew up in, and so I appreciate that he's
Speaker 6: like blunt and authentic and one hundred percent himself. He
Speaker 6: is such an old soul. I feel like between hearing
Speaker 6: how he talks about different things in general, like I've
Speaker 6: talked to him before about social media and stuff, and
Speaker 6: hearing how he's his approach to it, which is that
Speaker 6: he doesn't post, tweet nothing, I think it's interesting. But
Speaker 6: how he approaches the sport I think is also kind
Speaker 6: of similar in like an older mind. He's just very
Speaker 6: much in sync with the card that he's in and
Speaker 6: his level of knowledge is just more than I've seen
Speaker 6: from some other drivers. But each driver's very very different.
Speaker 6: I think the Maxim Steven this year is probably the
Speaker 6: most authentic version of Max, and we've been able to
Speaker 6: see he's always one hundred percent himself with how blunt
Speaker 6: he is and things like that, but he seemed more
Speaker 6: at ease, more.
Speaker 2: Open, less with a ship on his shoulder exactly.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny. I feel like every season I'm going through
Speaker 4: a bit of a journey myself. I have to admit
Speaker 4: I'm coming from a very negative place towards Max Versteppan,
Speaker 4: and I feel like this this season, I'm slowly being
Speaker 4: warmed up to max for stepping, and I still don't
Speaker 4: know how you feel about that. It's going to be okay, No,
Speaker 4: I need to be open to change, you know, exactly,
Speaker 4: open my heart to change. Change.
Speaker 1: Damn it that you feel it too. If we're going
Speaker 1: to devote a whole episode to speed, I hate to
Speaker 1: be this guy. But pit stops stopping the words stop.
Speaker 1: You don't hear this ever in racing. It's the word stop,
Speaker 1: but they have to take at least one pit that's
Speaker 1: required requiet. Okay, yeah, it's also cool in racing race fastest,
Speaker 1: first place. You so rarely hear the word stop. Who
Speaker 1: stops the fastest?
Speaker 2: Right now? It's red Bull, Red Bull, and you have
Speaker 2: it on top of their garage fastest pit stop. You
Speaker 2: know how. There's the there's the driver Championship, and then
Speaker 2: there's the Constructor Chammpionship. There's also the pit stop Championship,
Speaker 2: and it's not an official championship, but you will hear
Speaker 2: the Red Bull pit stop team actually be livid when
Speaker 2: they lose it, and that has happened.
Speaker 1: It's like who can rest the fastest? I don't think
Speaker 1: they're resting during these I know, but the word stop
Speaker 1: is like stopping the car has stopped.
Speaker 2: You do have a thing for four letter words, don't you.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny that there's a fastest competition for stopping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stand by for Michael kosh to congratulating himself.
Speaker 1: I'm crushing it.
Speaker 4: You are crushing it, Tony. I'm not sure that Costa's
Speaker 4: ego needs any more inflating.
Speaker 1: To be honest, what's the fastest pit stop error? Do
Speaker 1: you know that?
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked. In twenty nineteen at the Brazilian GP,
Speaker 2: the Red Bull needed just one point eight two seconds
Speaker 2: to change four tires of the Maxims step in RB fifteen.
Speaker 2: Red Bull is fascinating. They keep beating their own records
Speaker 2: and they take it very serious.
Speaker 1: There's only so much time left. Eventually it's gonna be zero.
Speaker 2: But that again, we keep talking about that. It's the
Speaker 2: incredible thing with these athletes. They keep pushing those numbers
Speaker 2: to you know, we never I don't think anyone in
Speaker 2: Formula one fifteen years ago for we're going to beat
Speaker 2: sub two seconds, and here we are. But there's a bat.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's always a butt.
Speaker 2: There's always a bat. Another team has actually beaten this
Speaker 2: record just this year.
Speaker 1: Threat.
Speaker 2: Do you want to have a guest.
Speaker 1: Who not Ferrari? Ferrari? Yeah, Ferrari's like they're putting the
Speaker 1: toast in the toaster and we're waiting for it. I
Speaker 1: don't know Mercedes.
Speaker 2: You said Mercedes. I would have actually said Mercedes as well.
Speaker 2: It's actually McLaren. McLaren pit Crew on Lando Norris's car
Speaker 2: and it occurred during the Katar GP of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three and recorded it at one point eight seconds. So
Speaker 2: you can best bet that Red Bull right now have
Speaker 2: something else that they're gunning for. Hell yeah, which is
Speaker 2: give us back our recorded pit stop. We want to
Speaker 2: beat them this.
Speaker 4: It's just occurred to me. It brought up a question
Speaker 4: in your guys conversation. Do you think, I mean, obviously
Speaker 4: the records keep being broken in sports? Yeah, do you
Speaker 4: think at some point we will plateau?
Speaker 1: So my daughter loves high jump, okay, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: When I take her to play tennis, she just hangs
Speaker 1: in the corner and kicks leaves. But her grandpa put
Speaker 1: high jump on when he was visiting, and she's like
Speaker 1: transfixed by it. No, it's when the Olympics when you
Speaker 1: jump over the bar they.
Speaker 2: Never can no attempt a new world record of two
Speaker 2: or nine.
Speaker 1: So she loves high jumps. She's like, you know, just
Speaker 1: can't stop watching high jump. So as a parent, being
Speaker 1: a parent, you get you dive into these topics you
Speaker 1: never thought you even or gave a shit about the
Speaker 1: world record for high jump has been stuck it since
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, so there, it is a
Speaker 1: wonderful new world record. We will reach a plateau, you know,
Speaker 1: at some point someone will break, but you keep thinking
Speaker 1: humans will go high or faster.
Speaker 4: In a way, it's disconcerting if high jumping is any
Speaker 4: kind of harbinger or you know, a sign of where
Speaker 4: we're heading is humanity.
Speaker 1: I before you even said anything, I knew what you
Speaker 1: were going to say, and I tend to agree with
Speaker 1: you on this, like have we maxed out humanity? And
Speaker 1: if so, it's going to end soon, but hopefully not
Speaker 1: before we've reason two of choosing sides.
Speaker 4: Season three, you mean, oh shit, yeah you know what,
Speaker 4: or just you're you're not even sure if we're going
Speaker 4: to finish this very season.
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping we could finish this Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's better, more and more realistic achievable goal.
Speaker 1: Let it faite the black. I'm going to watch the
Speaker 1: fastest pit stop right now while you guys talk.
Speaker 2: There's something there that I think, when it comes to technology,
Speaker 2: you can push the boundaries a little bit faster and
Speaker 2: a little bit further than what you can do if
Speaker 2: it's just human.
Speaker 1: Right, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: You should have been done now with your pit stop.
Speaker 1: Well, I watched the fifteen second ad first Lando Norris.
Speaker 1: Here it is this slap box, this slap about boom
Speaker 1: but bengales them a high five. Well, lump of coke
Speaker 1: and off he goes.
Speaker 2: Gods, it's insane, right, you better have time to blink.
Speaker 1: That is so cool. That's really fun to watch. I
Speaker 1: advise anybody to watch that and say, is this how
Speaker 1: efficient I am at work? Because that's not how I work.
Speaker 2: Get into the job, get out cool cool. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the people who do the stopping.
Speaker 1: Before we dive into that. We got to take a
Speaker 1: short break as promised. We are back.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the people who do the stopping the fastest,
Speaker 2: the fastest stopping, and I think you might enjoy this.
Speaker 2: The mechanics on the driver's team. So there's you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's there's two drivers, two different teams. Each team
Speaker 2: has different mechanics for each driver. They actually duplicate as
Speaker 2: the pit stop crew. So the rison you can't if
Speaker 2: you wanted to Michael tomorrow, you cauldn't actually apply to
Speaker 2: just be part of the pit stop crew. You would
Speaker 2: actually have to do a full time job as a
Speaker 2: mechanic battle.
Speaker 1: Here's me tearing up my your applications.
Speaker 2: So no one is actually just a pit stop crew me.
Speaker 2: But that's not an actual job in of itself. Rather,
Speaker 2: they are doing this as an additional job and they
Speaker 2: apply for it. It's a lot of the mechanics, but
Speaker 2: not just the mechanics. It can be people in the
Speaker 2: gearbox tech support team or the garage support team that
Speaker 2: can apply to be part of the fastest team that
Speaker 2: does the pit.
Speaker 1: Stops, the team that slows down the fastest.
Speaker 4: That's the third time you made that joke.
Speaker 5: You know what the incredible thing is the pit lane
Speaker 5: speed limit is a fairly recent rule change, Like they
Speaker 5: never used to have speed limits. You'd see the drivers
Speaker 5: come in as fast as they could and then leave
Speaker 5: as fast as they could.
Speaker 2: You know, in.
Speaker 5: Senna's period and around that time, flutter all the way
Speaker 5: through an accident in the pit lane now as a
Speaker 5: Ferrari mechanic that's on the ground.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing because I didn't say it happened, but it's
Speaker 1: clear that a wheel came off the Minardi.
Speaker 5: There's a danger of.
Speaker 1: Cars coming in at high speed.
Speaker 2: A good pit stop also requires the driver to be
Speaker 2: sharp and hit that mark to absolute decision.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna click this link.
Speaker 2: Let's check out this performance by Launce Stroll.
Speaker 1: The front jackman gets knocked over and immediately his reservist
Speaker 1: is like, my turn, I'm going in. Yeah. It's like finally, dad,
Speaker 1: did you see I've been waiting this whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In some ways, that reservist is waiting for the driver
Speaker 1: to knock the other guy over. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry about thats a really cold well.
Speaker 1: This is not an example of a great pit but
Speaker 1: it's an example of the driver needs to hit their mark.
Speaker 2: He needs to hit the mark.
Speaker 1: And it makes me laugh that we picked lancetroll fucking
Speaker 1: up to show me because it fit fits perfectly.
Speaker 3: Stand by for a heartwarming display of empathy.
Speaker 1: I don't really care that this guy got knocked over
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been standing there.
Speaker 4: Literally, it's his job to stand there.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I thought was really interesting, and
Speaker 2: even though I've been watching the sport since ninety ninety one,
Speaker 2: I only discovered this I think it was last year
Speaker 2: that even though there are two teams mechanics engineers that
Speaker 2: work on the two cars, it's one team that does
Speaker 2: the pit stop for both teams. Okay, so there isn't
Speaker 2: a dedicated pit stop crew for Let's sake, Red Bull
Speaker 2: for Checko, and a dedicated pit stop crew for Max.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, they don't ever pit at the
Speaker 1: same time, you can't write.
Speaker 6: Double stack, so box box box box boxbox box box.
Speaker 2: They will do back to back, which are so impressive
Speaker 2: to this absolutely spots off proper perfection just when one.
Speaker 1: Works out the other one back again.
Speaker 7: It's like a production and the choreography of that is sensational.
Speaker 2: It does look like a very well choreographed dance when
Speaker 2: they pull off those double stack it is just so impressive.
Speaker 2: I personally think it's one of the coolest things.
Speaker 1: A double stack double stack.
Speaker 2: Those selected to be on the pit crew practice per
Speaker 2: season and mid season thousands and thousands of times, and
Speaker 2: they do it daily. The teams also film and analyze
Speaker 2: the pit stops to find where they can improve, and
Speaker 2: you will often see the race engineers walking around the
Speaker 2: pit stops and when they do it what look slightly
Speaker 2: do it for the fans for the show, they're actually
Speaker 2: doing it for them and you will constantly see them
Speaker 2: analyzing this. Some pick crew practice meditation and mindful nurse.
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Speaker 1: This is a very cool part of racing.
Speaker 2: It's weird that it's like it's this moment in time
Speaker 2: where the racing kind of stops, Yeah, to be able
Speaker 2: to go and raise bigger and better the moment that
Speaker 2: exercise is done.
Speaker 1: And you know what my least favorite part of life is,
Speaker 1: but I've gotten older, I've had to adjust my thinking
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: What stand by for another fascinating life observation.
Speaker 1: Maintenance, Yeah, the daily maintenance of stuff. You gotta change tires,
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to clean the windshield off, and if
Speaker 1: everything is going well, maybe that's the time to think
Speaker 1: about when you're going to do that.
Speaker 2: And you do before it's too late.
Speaker 1: For it's too late, because those pit stops where it's
Speaker 1: too late you're changing a wing or whatever those are,
Speaker 1: those are gonn take forever. Do any of these little
Speaker 1: tidbits ever make it in? I wonder the good ones?
Speaker 2: And you actually bring out you actually bring up a
Speaker 2: really good point, which is not not only does everyone
Speaker 2: have a job to do, but the drive also has
Speaker 2: to hit that exact mark. And you will hear them
Speaker 2: say if I stop a little bit too forward, a
Speaker 2: little bit too left, the people actually have to move
Speaker 2: out of their position to hit the wheelgun and then
Speaker 2: in the exactly and that you lose half a second,
Speaker 2: a mini second here and there, and so that I've
Speaker 2: always found really impressive of how the drivers get to
Speaker 2: hit that mark to perfection.
Speaker 1: Is there a break? Is it a foot break?
Speaker 2: It is a foot break, And actually most human beings
Speaker 2: cannot push that foot break.
Speaker 1: Because you just got to hit it so hard.
Speaker 2: You've got to hit it so hard. It's a phenomenal
Speaker 2: if you're ever bought. There's a phenomenal video on YouTube
Speaker 2: that is I think the title is can a normal
Speaker 2: person drive a Formula One car? And this guide trains
Speaker 2: for months and months with Formula one to figure out
Speaker 2: and keep saying we can't let you out until you
Speaker 2: hit the brake to one hundred percent and he can't then,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm doing it, like you're about twenty
Speaker 2: percent of the brake. We're gonna need you to get
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: What a soft man? Come on, bro, hit it.
Speaker 5: When you put a normal person in a Formal one car,
Speaker 5: they don't work the engine hard enough. You have to
Speaker 5: get your ears and your senses adjusted to how high
Speaker 5: a Formula one car revs. And so most people just,
Speaker 5: you know, just trundle through the gears only using half
Speaker 5: of the rpm. The problem is when you do that,
Speaker 5: all of the hydraulic systems in the car run off
Speaker 5: the engine, and so if the engine isn't turning over
Speaker 5: quickly enough, the hydraulic systems fail and the car actually
Speaker 5: turns itself off. And so that's another thing. You're constantly
Speaker 5: telling the drivers to change down, change down the gears,
Speaker 5: use the engine a little bit more.
Speaker 7: I think there's one thing that's the hardest and most
Speaker 7: annoying and frustrating the parties that people will never know
Speaker 7: what it is to drive a Formula one car at
Speaker 7: full speed just because it's you know, you can go
Speaker 7: and play basketball and you can try to shoot a
Speaker 7: three points basket and see you often you miss it,
Speaker 7: especially myself. But and then you see Michael Jordan or
Speaker 7: Lebron James and they do it, and it's just like
Speaker 7: boom boom all the time. In you can go and
Speaker 7: play golf and you can hit your driver and so
Speaker 7: you do two hundred and twenty yards and then the
Speaker 7: pros they do three hundred and they shoot, you know,
Speaker 7: minus ten and you are plus thirty five eighteen hollers
Speaker 7: and Formula one car you cannot jump in. You can
Speaker 7: you cannot compare yourself as much as I would love to,
Speaker 7: It's it's not possible. And I think that's that's one
Speaker 7: of the hardest part in our spots for people to understand.
Speaker 2: Final four. It's Michael, We're at the end. Are you
Speaker 2: a speed junkie? Are you feeling it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I am. I Speed is Speed is everything to
Speaker 1: the sport. Without speed, there is no f one. Speed
Speaker 1: makes the steaks high, speed makes money come in. Speed
Speaker 1: makes us watch it, Speed makes the pit stop more interesting.
Speaker 1: Speed is everything. Speed Give me speed. I have a
Speaker 1: need for speed. There's a freight trademark I should do
Speaker 1: because there's so much speed. The driver's skill is so
Speaker 1: important because if they don't get it right, bad stuff
Speaker 1: can happen.
Speaker 2: And it's not just speed for one lap. They have
Speaker 2: to do fifty plus seventy laps and they have to
Speaker 2: keep that speed up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the speed is everything. I mean really, honestly, I
Speaker 1: hate to whisper this into the microphone, but we could
Speaker 1: eliminate all the other episodes and just talk about speed.
Speaker 1: But can we No, we can't because we got ads
Speaker 1: to sell. Sult in.
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Speaker 2: Next week, on Choosing Sides F one, we are going
Speaker 2: to talk about the tech nerd. If F one is
Speaker 2: the merger of Man and Machine, and we just spent
Speaker 2: most of this episode talking about Man. Well, next week
Speaker 2: we're going to shift our full attention to the machine.
Speaker 1: Nerds. Yeah, suck at nerds.