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Speaker 2: Have we lost the room?

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Speaker 1: We've lost the room. I've certainly done that before.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, stand up, convenience. It's a tough kid.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Okay, Tony you ready?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I am Lights out and away we go.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm not sure you technically are allowed to say

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Speaker 1: Actually, Michael, what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: It's owned by someone else.

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Speaker 1: Somebody owns that sentence. You can own a sentence, yes,

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Speaker 1: what do you want?

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Speaker 2: A story time?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Story time?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Crafty or David Croft, who's the legendary Sky Sports presenter

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Speaker 2: that you often hear on TV, started to introduce that

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Speaker 2: sentence lights out and awhere we go, which has become

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Speaker 2: iconic to basically, and I wonder if you do something similar,

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Speaker 2: but it gives him two or three seconds where he

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Speaker 1: So he owns the sentence.

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Speaker 2: Well, technically, you can trademark a catchphrase, and in this case,

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Speaker 2: Crofty hasn't actually technically trademarked his opening phrase. But there

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Speaker 2: is a well recognized gentlemen's agreement that others don't use it.

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Speaker 2: There are some lines that even this podcast will not cross.

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Speaker 1: That's hot.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I'm afraid sorry, you can't use that one either.

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Speaker 2: Paris Hilton owns it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love you that form My Heart

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Speaker 1: podcast one on one studios and Sports Illustrated Studios. This

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Speaker 1: is choosing sides.

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Speaker 2: Yes one Wow.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Hey guys, can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Perfect?

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Speaker 2: This is Scott Mansell.

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Speaker 5: I'm an ex professional racing driver with ten years of experience.

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Speaker 5: I've driven over thirty Formula one cars.

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Speaker 2: But he's also the founder of an immensely popular Formula

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Speaker 2: one YouTube channel called Driver sixty one with.

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Speaker 5: One point two million subscribers.

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Speaker 6: My name is Malone Colman. I am a staff writer

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Speaker 6: covering Formula one at the Athletic.

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Speaker 2: Her thing, I guess you could say, is writing these

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Speaker 2: incredibly in depth and nuanced profiles of the drivers. So

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Speaker 2: she is actually someone who got to spend a lot

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Speaker 2: up close what it's like being a Formula one racing driver.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting.

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Speaker 6: How would you describe you know, Max forstaff and how

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Speaker 6: would you describe Pierre Ghastly? I pivot the question around

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Speaker 6: to the drivers and have them define themselves. How do

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Speaker 6: you want to be seen in this chapter of your life?

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Speaker 6: It's a big question. They pause, They really do pause,

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Speaker 6: and kind I do a double take a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Give us a little bit of an introduction.

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Speaker 3: Who are you?

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Speaker 2: Where should we know you from?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Bobria watching race cars going around. Yeah, I'm a race

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Speaker 7: car driver. I was very lucky to do Formula one

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Speaker 2: This is Romane Grojean, the Phoenix, ex Formula one racing driver.

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Speaker 2: Current car driver.

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Speaker 1: Isn't Tony? Isn't he the guy who crashed, almost killed himself,

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Speaker 1: jumped out of the burning car.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he has stories to tell about that moment.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you a funny story. My wife always

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we can finally talk about speed? Is that what?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right?

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Speaker 1: Because actually let's start with the basics. How fast can

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed right now. And I'll

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Speaker 1: have you know that a four gt American was clocked

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Speaker 2: Half like the Wow, good show, guys.

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Speaker 1: Now, I know what you're gonna say, Well, what is

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Speaker 1: it in kilometers? I'm not going to answer that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. This is an American show, Tony. But what

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Speaker 1: I do want an answer to is how is there

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's fun about F one is all

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Speaker 7: It's funny to speed. We always have that question, how first, jogle,

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Speaker 1: This makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: We got that. Yeah, okay, you said something there that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, every time we have it's the right timing to

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you shift thirty five times at a lap,

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Speaker 7: But at least it allows me to focus on what's

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Speaker 7: We have one for perimeter in and pitimeter out, and

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Speaker 7: But yes, that's it's quite funny that we just used that.

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Speaker 2: So sure, give that souped up American muscle car and

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Speaker 1: But oh, there's a butt.

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Speaker 2: There's a big butts, the big butt. Everyone. Cars are

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Speaker 2: And that is what we're going to talk about today.

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Speaker 7: You have to think that it's a pyramids. It starts

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Speaker 7: it's the card that does the definant part.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what I wanted to ask you. How

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Speaker 1: much of this is the actual driver? How much of

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Speaker 1: this this machine? I'm starting to get the feeling that

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Speaker 1: it's really more about the car, which is putting me off.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, you've just highlighted one of the hottest

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think the driver is five percent, machine is

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Speaker 7: so the only the difference left is the car.

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Speaker 2: It's always about the car, the driver and the teammate.

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Speaker 2: So in Formula one, your teammate is both your teammate

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Speaker 2: know what I'm going to say. We've got an episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I forgot about that.

445
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Speaker 2: We're going to have a whole episode dedicated to none

446
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Speaker 2: other than the weather. Yeah, one more reaction time.

447
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Speaker 1: Yes, I was gonna say this, This needs to be.

448
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Speaker 7: There reaction time you can improve. Some people are more

449
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Speaker 7: natural than others, but you can improve while working at it.

450
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Speaker 2: You see them as they're training for the races. They're

451
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Speaker 2: playing with these tennis balls and they're hitting these lights

452
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Speaker 2: all over.

453
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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly obvious one is the start, you know, that's

454
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Speaker 7: so how fast react to the lights, But also in

455
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Speaker 7: any circumstances, I think the one we don't see is

456
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Speaker 7: the one inside the cow and there's anything happening in front,

457
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Speaker 7: and how quick you can react, how quickly can react

458
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Speaker 7: to debris flying, or quick can react to a car

459
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Speaker 7: spinning in front of you, how quick you can react

460
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Speaker 7: to reaction of the drive in front of you trying

461
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Speaker 7: to pass him.

462
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Speaker 2: Per official timing is a formula one. The fastest driver

463
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Speaker 2: to get off the mark is again Valcherie bot Us.

464
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Speaker 2: At the twenty nineteen Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, he

465
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Speaker 2: recorded a reaction time of just noter point not four

466
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Speaker 2: seconds off the line.

467
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Speaker 4: Which is zero point zero second. I was going to say,

468
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Speaker 4: and just translating your British.

469
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Speaker 1: Is getting off the line really the big indicator of that.

470
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Speaker 2: You will hear some drivers go just I wasn't fast enough,

471
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Speaker 2: especially if you're on the front light, especially if you're

472
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Speaker 2: in the front two rows. The first person that gets

473
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Speaker 2: out of there and gets that driving line is fat.

474
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Speaker 2: You have you definitely have, Yeah, definitely have a d up.

475
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you fun fact for you. We haven't done

476
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Speaker 2: one of those in a while. You know those five

477
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Speaker 2: lights that go out at the start of the rays

478
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Speaker 2: to indicate the race is starting. I never knew this,

479
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: but it's it's a manual button that's pressed. Oh I

480
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Speaker 2: thought it was automatic till not that long ago. But

481
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Speaker 2: there's an actual human that presses go the lights are on,

482
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Speaker 2: and then go the lights get.

483
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Speaker 1: Off, And when the lights are off, it's race time.

484
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Speaker 1: Where we go?

485
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Speaker 2: It's m M and awhere we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, with all these skills, I noticed you didn't mention

487
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Speaker 1: sir Lewis Hamilton or Max for stepping at all.

488
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Speaker 3: Michael Carsta is paying attention.

489
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Speaker 1: I was paying attention, You were paying attention.

490
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Speaker 2: I think this is because both of them have all

491
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Speaker 2: of the above.

492
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Speaker 5: The kind of best skill and the best driving style

493
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Speaker 5: to have is the one way you can adapt to

494
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Speaker 5: any of the cars. Now, don't forget that the cars

495
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Speaker 5: are changing race by race. They're actually changing within the session, right,

496
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Speaker 5: the circuit is changing. The balance between the front and

497
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Speaker 5: the rear of the car is changing as well, even

498
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Speaker 5: over a single qualifying lap. So when people talk about

499
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Speaker 5: the balance changing, they may turn into one corner and

500
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Speaker 5: the car might have understeerd, so the front isn't turning

501
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Speaker 5: as much as you actually want it to. And then

502
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Speaker 5: towards the end of the lap, the rear might be

503
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Speaker 5: sliding and giving way before the front. And so the

504
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Speaker 5: driver themselves can change their style, how they use the brakes,

505
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Speaker 5: how they turn the car, how they come off the brakes,

506
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Speaker 5: how they accelerate to manipulate this balance. So they're doing

507
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Speaker 5: it within a lap, they're doing it corner by corner,

508
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Speaker 5: they're doing it when the tires change, they're doing it

509
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 5: when the wind direction changes. But to a broader extent,

510
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 5: a driving style will change as a car develops over

511
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Speaker 5: the season and even year by year, and generation of

512
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Speaker 5: rule changes to generation of rule changes. Right, and so

513
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Speaker 5: when you look at the really good drivers, the Schumachers,

514
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Speaker 5: the Hamilton's of the Stappens, they're able to keep this

515
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Speaker 5: going over you know, different eras of Formula one, and

516
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Speaker 5: so they're the guys who can adapt they're the ones

517
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Speaker 5: who can change their style to extract the very most

518
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Speaker 5: from the car.

519
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Speaker 1: Where does experience play into all this? You talked about

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Speaker 1: reaction time being best with young drivers, but a lot

521
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Speaker 1: of this other stuff I would think experience would be

522
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Speaker 1: a huge benefit.

523
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Speaker 5: So where experience comes into this, it's kind of not

524
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Speaker 5: toning things down, but it's knowing when to not push

525
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Speaker 5: at one hundred percent, having the capacity to think about

526
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Speaker 5: a wider strategy, kind of picking your battles. When you're

527
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Speaker 5: a young driver, you just want to push a hundred

528
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Speaker 5: percent all of the time, and you know that's good

529
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Speaker 5: in most cases, but sometimes you just have to sit back.

530
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Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't need to go for that dive bomb move.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, your body needs a little bit more time to

532
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Speaker 7: recover the more advanced you go in your age compared

533
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Speaker 7: to when you were a youngster, So that's the difference.

534
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Speaker 7: You just need to, you know, plan your travel a

535
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Speaker 7: little bit better, plan you sleep a little bit better,

536
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Speaker 7: make sure that you are more careful with your nutrition.

537
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Speaker 7: But racing is very particular in a way that we

538
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Speaker 7: train very little in our environment. Imagine football player, soccer player,

539
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Speaker 7: tennis player, whatever, and you're tell him that the only

540
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Speaker 7: place you can practice is at the matches, at the game,

541
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Speaker 7: and in between you can do you can go to

542
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Speaker 7: the gym, you can work and your reflexes, you can

543
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 7: do your cardiovascular or your bicycle or running, but you

544
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Speaker 7: cannot do your game. And I think that's what that's

545
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Speaker 7: what's very different in racing, you know. I think this

546
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Speaker 7: year in Indica, we're very lucky. We have five days

547
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Speaker 7: of testing, which is a lot. I think that's why

548
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Speaker 7: we can see in racing that drivers that are a

549
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Speaker 7: bit older or more experience. Did I say because I've

550
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Speaker 7: bothered them, we can still compete at the highest level

551
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Speaker 7: because we may have lost a little bit of that

552
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 7: craziness that you have at the beginning, but we have

553
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Speaker 7: the experience that the youngster don't have, just because we've

554
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Speaker 7: been spending more time driving cars.

555
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Speaker 5: When you look at the great drivers, right, Schumecker came in,

556
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Speaker 5: he did the same thing. He was really quick, but

557
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Speaker 5: he made a few mistakes. Hamilton came in, he was

558
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Speaker 5: very aggressive, he made quite a few mistakes and then

559
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 5: he toned things down. This happens them the same Leclair

560
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Speaker 5: was doing that but has continued. Unfortunately, he makes quite

561
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Speaker 5: makes quite a few mistakes. So whether or not that

562
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Speaker 5: will stop, whether that's because of the Ferrari or not,

563
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 5: we don't know. But you generally see the experience coming

564
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Speaker 5: with the great drivers at least, and it makes them

565
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Speaker 5: more consistent, and it makes them have better decision making skills.

566
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Speaker 1: I noticed maybe all of this as a former athlete,

567
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: not at this level obvious, but there's no list of confidence.

568
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: But probably if you have consistency, tire management, you know

569
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: how to drive in wet conditions and reaction time, you

570
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: have good confidence. But I would think a confident driver

571
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Speaker 1: is goes without saying otherwise, Boom goes the dynamite.

572
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Speaker 2: Boom goes the dynamite. And this is where I love.

573
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Speaker 1: Another trademark term boom goes the mast show it's not, but.

574
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Speaker 2: It's your right for the beginning. This is why I

575
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: like that we did the episode previously on social and

576
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: gossip and drama, because all the drivers will say this,

577
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: this is a mental game, and I don't think all

578
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: the drama and the gossip is actually helping the drivers.

579
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Speaker 2: I actually think it's hindering. And I think this is

580
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: what's happening with someone like Perez right now. Jecko, there

581
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: is so much noise around him, not being the right teammate,

582
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: not being good for his car, Daniel Ricardo coming for

583
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: his seat like that has to mess with you.

584
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Speaker 7: Yes, it's great to be standing in a podium. It's

585
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Speaker 7: awesome to be leaving those moments where the high super high,

586
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 7: but there also a lot of moment where the lowers

587
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 7: are not that much seen and who alone you are

588
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 7: in those moments? You know, when you win, everyone is

589
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 7: with you. When you don't win, you end up being

590
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Speaker 7: very much on your own.

591
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Speaker 2: What's something that surprised you with some of these drivers.

592
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Speaker 2: What's something that's maybe like a misconception that we have

593
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Speaker 2: of these drivers or you know, we have this idea

594
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Speaker 2: that you have to be a fierce competitor and leave,

595
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: you know, leave nothing unturned and you know, do your

596
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: talking on the track, and it's it's a very sort

597
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: of stereotypical male like vision that we have of what

598
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 2: it takes to be a Formula One driver. I'm just

599
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: is that true or is there anything that's maybe surprised

600
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Speaker 2: you as talking with these drivers over the last couple

601
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Speaker 2: of years.

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Speaker 6: I think that's it's the building to switch off if

603
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 6: you just waited, like a few more minutes after a

604
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 6: session before talking to them. There can be a difference

605
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 6: as you come down from that adrenaline high and the

606
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Speaker 6: best way possible. They are some of the fiercest competitors

607
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 6: I've met, but also several of the drivers are probably

608
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 6: the kindness people ever, very much kind of teddy bears.

609
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: They care a lot, not just about their job, but

610
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 6: also the people around them. When they feel comfortable, you

611
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 6: can kind of tell, like Lando constantly, I rarely see

612
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 6: him with like two feet on the ground. He's constantly

613
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 6: got like a knee up sitting in some kind of

614
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 6: like very much young twenty something positioned in a chair.

615
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: It's like a little detailed Most people would not notice,

616
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 6: but it kind of shows the comfort level that he

617
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 6: has with whoever's around him. But I think, if I

618
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Speaker 6: had to pick the biggest misconception, I think people don't

619
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Speaker 6: take into account that these drivers come from very different cultures.

620
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Speaker 6: Max Verstappen, for example, I think he's like the most

621
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 6: misunderstood driver in the entire paddock. It comes from a

622
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 6: Belgian Dutch family. Bluntness is part of the culture that

623
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 6: he grew up in, and so I appreciate that he's

624
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 6: like blunt and authentic and one hundred percent himself. He

625
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 6: is such an old soul. I feel like between hearing

626
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 6: how he talks about different things in general, like I've

627
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 6: talked to him before about social media and stuff, and

628
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 6: hearing how he's his approach to it, which is that

629
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 6: he doesn't post, tweet nothing, I think it's interesting. But

630
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 6: how he approaches the sport I think is also kind

631
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 6: of similar in like an older mind. He's just very

632
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 6: much in sync with the card that he's in and

633
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 6: his level of knowledge is just more than I've seen

634
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 6: from some other drivers. But each driver's very very different.

635
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: I think the Maxim Steven this year is probably the

636
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: most authentic version of Max, and we've been able to

637
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 6: see he's always one hundred percent himself with how blunt

638
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 6: he is and things like that, but he seemed more

639
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 6: at ease, more.

640
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Speaker 2: Open, less with a ship on his shoulder exactly.

641
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Speaker 1: You know.

642
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Speaker 4: It's funny. I feel like every season I'm going through

643
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: a bit of a journey myself. I have to admit

644
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: I'm coming from a very negative place towards Max Versteppan,

645
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: and I feel like this this season, I'm slowly being

646
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: warmed up to max for stepping, and I still don't

647
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: know how you feel about that. It's going to be okay, No,

648
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: I need to be open to change, you know, exactly,

649
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: open my heart to change. Change.

650
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: Damn it that you feel it too. If we're going

651
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: to devote a whole episode to speed, I hate to

652
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: be this guy. But pit stops stopping the words stop.

653
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: You don't hear this ever in racing. It's the word stop,

654
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: but they have to take at least one pit that's

655
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: required requiet. Okay, yeah, it's also cool in racing race fastest,

656
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: first place. You so rarely hear the word stop. Who

657
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: stops the fastest?

658
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Right now? It's red Bull, Red Bull, and you have

659
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: it on top of their garage fastest pit stop. You

660
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: know how. There's the there's the driver Championship, and then

661
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Speaker 2: there's the Constructor Chammpionship. There's also the pit stop Championship,

662
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: and it's not an official championship, but you will hear

663
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: the Red Bull pit stop team actually be livid when

664
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: they lose it, and that has happened.

665
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: It's like who can rest the fastest? I don't think

666
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: they're resting during these I know, but the word stop

667
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: is like stopping the car has stopped.

668
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: You do have a thing for four letter words, don't you.

669
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Speaker 1: It's kind of funny that there's a fastest competition for stopping.

670
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, stand by for Michael kosh to congratulating himself.

671
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 1: I'm crushing it.

672
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Speaker 4: You are crushing it, Tony. I'm not sure that Costa's

673
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: ego needs any more inflating.

674
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: To be honest, what's the fastest pit stop error? Do

675
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: you know that?

676
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked. In twenty nineteen at the Brazilian GP,

677
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: the Red Bull needed just one point eight two seconds

678
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: to change four tires of the Maxims step in RB fifteen.

679
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Red Bull is fascinating. They keep beating their own records

680
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: and they take it very serious.

681
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: There's only so much time left. Eventually it's gonna be zero.

682
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: But that again, we keep talking about that. It's the

683
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: incredible thing with these athletes. They keep pushing those numbers

684
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: to you know, we never I don't think anyone in

685
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: Formula one fifteen years ago for we're going to beat

686
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: sub two seconds, and here we are. But there's a bat.

687
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh, there's always a butt.

688
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: There's always a bat. Another team has actually beaten this

689
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: record just this year.

690
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: Threat.

691
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Do you want to have a guest.

692
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Who not Ferrari? Ferrari? Yeah, Ferrari's like they're putting the

693
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: toast in the toaster and we're waiting for it. I

694
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Speaker 1: don't know Mercedes.

695
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: You said Mercedes. I would have actually said Mercedes as well.

696
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: It's actually McLaren. McLaren pit Crew on Lando Norris's car

697
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Speaker 2: and it occurred during the Katar GP of twenty twenty

698
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: three and recorded it at one point eight seconds. So

699
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: you can best bet that Red Bull right now have

700
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Speaker 2: something else that they're gunning for. Hell yeah, which is

701
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: give us back our recorded pit stop. We want to

702
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Speaker 2: beat them this.

703
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: It's just occurred to me. It brought up a question

704
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Speaker 4: in your guys conversation. Do you think, I mean, obviously

705
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: the records keep being broken in sports? Yeah, do you

706
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: think at some point we will plateau?

707
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: So my daughter loves high jump, okay, for whatever reason.

708
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: When I take her to play tennis, she just hangs

709
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: in the corner and kicks leaves. But her grandpa put

710
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: high jump on when he was visiting, and she's like

711
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: transfixed by it. No, it's when the Olympics when you

712
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: jump over the bar they.

713
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: Never can no attempt a new world record of two

714
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Speaker 2: or nine.

715
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Speaker 1: So she loves high jumps. She's like, you know, just

716
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: can't stop watching high jump. So as a parent, being

717
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: a parent, you get you dive into these topics you

718
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: never thought you even or gave a shit about the

719
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: world record for high jump has been stuck it since

720
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Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, so there, it is a

721
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: wonderful new world record. We will reach a plateau, you know,

722
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: at some point someone will break, but you keep thinking

723
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Speaker 1: humans will go high or faster.

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Speaker 4: In a way, it's disconcerting if high jumping is any

725
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: kind of harbinger or you know, a sign of where

726
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: we're heading is humanity.

727
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: I before you even said anything, I knew what you

728
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: were going to say, and I tend to agree with

729
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: you on this, like have we maxed out humanity? And

730
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: if so, it's going to end soon, but hopefully not

731
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: before we've reason two of choosing sides.

732
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: Season three, you mean, oh shit, yeah you know what,

733
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: or just you're you're not even sure if we're going

734
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: to finish this very season.

735
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping we could finish this Yeah.

736
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's better, more and more realistic achievable goal.

737
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Let it faite the black. I'm going to watch the

738
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: fastest pit stop right now while you guys talk.

739
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: There's something there that I think, when it comes to technology,

740
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: you can push the boundaries a little bit faster and

741
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: a little bit further than what you can do if

742
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: it's just human.

743
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Right, that's true, that's true.

744
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: You should have been done now with your pit stop.

745
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, I watched the fifteen second ad first Lando Norris.

746
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Here it is this slap box, this slap about boom

747
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: but bengales them a high five. Well, lump of coke

748
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: and off he goes.

749
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 2: Gods, it's insane, right, you better have time to blink.

750
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: That is so cool. That's really fun to watch. I

751
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: advise anybody to watch that and say, is this how

752
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: efficient I am at work? Because that's not how I work.

753
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Get into the job, get out cool cool. Let's talk

754
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: about the people who do the stopping.

755
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: Before we dive into that. We got to take a

756
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: short break as promised. We are back.

757
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the people who do the stopping the fastest,

758
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: the fastest stopping, and I think you might enjoy this.

759
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: The mechanics on the driver's team. So there's you know,

760
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: there's there's there's two drivers, two different teams. Each team

761
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: has different mechanics for each driver. They actually duplicate as

762
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: the pit stop crew. So the rison you can't if

763
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: you wanted to Michael tomorrow, you cauldn't actually apply to

764
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: just be part of the pit stop crew. You would

765
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: actually have to do a full time job as a

766
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: mechanic battle.

767
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: Here's me tearing up my your applications.

768
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: So no one is actually just a pit stop crew me.

769
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: But that's not an actual job in of itself. Rather,

770
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: they are doing this as an additional job and they

771
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: apply for it. It's a lot of the mechanics, but

772
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: not just the mechanics. It can be people in the

773
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: gearbox tech support team or the garage support team that

774
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: can apply to be part of the fastest team that

775
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: does the pit.

776
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Stops, the team that slows down the fastest.

777
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: That's the third time you made that joke.

778
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: You know what the incredible thing is the pit lane

779
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 5: speed limit is a fairly recent rule change, Like they

780
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 5: never used to have speed limits. You'd see the drivers

781
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: come in as fast as they could and then leave

782
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: as fast as they could.

783
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: You know, in.

784
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 5: Senna's period and around that time, flutter all the way

785
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 5: through an accident in the pit lane now as a

786
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: Ferrari mechanic that's on the ground.

787
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: I'm guessing because I didn't say it happened, but it's

788
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: clear that a wheel came off the Minardi.

789
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 5: There's a danger of.

790
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: Cars coming in at high speed.

791
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: A good pit stop also requires the driver to be

792
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: sharp and hit that mark to absolute decision.

793
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna click this link.

794
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: Let's check out this performance by Launce Stroll.

795
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: The front jackman gets knocked over and immediately his reservist

796
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: is like, my turn, I'm going in. Yeah. It's like finally, dad,

797
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: did you see I've been waiting this whole time.

798
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

799
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: In some ways, that reservist is waiting for the driver

800
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: to knock the other guy over. Let's be honest.

801
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

802
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry about thats a really cold well.

803
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: This is not an example of a great pit but

804
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: it's an example of the driver needs to hit their mark.

805
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: He needs to hit the mark.

806
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: And it makes me laugh that we picked lancetroll fucking

807
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: up to show me because it fit fits perfectly.

808
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Stand by for a heartwarming display of empathy.

809
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't really care that this guy got knocked over

810
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been standing there.

811
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: Literally, it's his job to stand there.

812
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: The other thing that I thought was really interesting, and

813
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: even though I've been watching the sport since ninety ninety one,

814
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: I only discovered this I think it was last year

815
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: that even though there are two teams mechanics engineers that

816
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: work on the two cars, it's one team that does

817
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: the pit stop for both teams. Okay, so there isn't

818
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: a dedicated pit stop crew for Let's sake, Red Bull

819
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: for Checko, and a dedicated pit stop crew for Max.

820
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, they don't ever pit at the

821
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: same time, you can't write.

822
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: Double stack, so box box box box boxbox box box.

823
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: They will do back to back, which are so impressive

824
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: to this absolutely spots off proper perfection just when one.

825
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: Works out the other one back again.

826
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 7: It's like a production and the choreography of that is sensational.

827
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: It does look like a very well choreographed dance when

828
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: they pull off those double stack it is just so impressive.

829
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: I personally think it's one of the coolest things.

830
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: A double stack double stack.

831
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: Those selected to be on the pit crew practice per

832
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: season and mid season thousands and thousands of times, and

833
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: they do it daily. The teams also film and analyze

834
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: the pit stops to find where they can improve, and

835
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: you will often see the race engineers walking around the

836
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: pit stops and when they do it what look slightly

837
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: do it for the fans for the show, they're actually

838
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: doing it for them and you will constantly see them

839
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: analyzing this. Some pick crew practice meditation and mindful nurse.

840
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 8: Jack raise dire off dire On Jack, Raise dire off

841
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 8: dire On Jack, raise dire lof dire On.

842
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: This is a very cool part of racing.

843
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: It's weird that it's like it's this moment in time

844
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 2: where the racing kind of stops, Yeah, to be able

845
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: to go and raise bigger and better the moment that

846
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: exercise is done.

847
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: And you know what my least favorite part of life is,

848
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: but I've gotten older, I've had to adjust my thinking

849
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: on it.

850
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: What stand by for another fascinating life observation.

851
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Maintenance, Yeah, the daily maintenance of stuff. You gotta change tires,

852
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to clean the windshield off, and if

853
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: everything is going well, maybe that's the time to think

854
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: about when you're going to do that.

855
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: And you do before it's too late.

856
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: For it's too late, because those pit stops where it's

857
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: too late you're changing a wing or whatever those are,

858
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: those are gonn take forever. Do any of these little

859
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: tidbits ever make it in? I wonder the good ones?

860
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: And you actually bring out you actually bring up a

861
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: really good point, which is not not only does everyone

862
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: have a job to do, but the drive also has

863
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: to hit that exact mark. And you will hear them

864
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: say if I stop a little bit too forward, a

865
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: little bit too left, the people actually have to move

866
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: out of their position to hit the wheelgun and then

867
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: in the exactly and that you lose half a second,

868
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: a mini second here and there, and so that I've

869
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: always found really impressive of how the drivers get to

870
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: hit that mark to perfection.

871
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Is there a break? Is it a foot break?

872
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: It is a foot break, And actually most human beings

873
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: cannot push that foot break.

874
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: Because you just got to hit it so hard.

875
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: You've got to hit it so hard. It's a phenomenal

876
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: if you're ever bought. There's a phenomenal video on YouTube

877
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: that is I think the title is can a normal

878
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: person drive a Formula One car? And this guide trains

879
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: for months and months with Formula one to figure out

880
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: and keep saying we can't let you out until you

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Speaker 2: hit the brake to one hundred percent and he can't then,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm doing it, like you're about twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of the brake. We're gonna need you to get

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Speaker 2: to that.

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Speaker 1: What a soft man? Come on, bro, hit it.

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Speaker 5: When you put a normal person in a Formal one car,

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Speaker 5: they don't work the engine hard enough. You have to

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Speaker 5: get your ears and your senses adjusted to how high

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Speaker 5: a Formula one car revs. And so most people just,

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Speaker 5: you know, just trundle through the gears only using half

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Speaker 5: of the rpm. The problem is when you do that,

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Speaker 5: all of the hydraulic systems in the car run off

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Speaker 5: the engine, and so if the engine isn't turning over

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Speaker 5: quickly enough, the hydraulic systems fail and the car actually

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Speaker 5: turns itself off. And so that's another thing. You're constantly

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Speaker 5: telling the drivers to change down, change down the gears,

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Speaker 5: use the engine a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: I think there's one thing that's the hardest and most

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Speaker 7: annoying and frustrating the parties that people will never know

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Speaker 7: what it is to drive a Formula one car at

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Speaker 7: full speed just because it's you know, you can go

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Speaker 7: and play basketball and you can try to shoot a

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Speaker 7: three points basket and see you often you miss it,

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Speaker 7: especially myself. But and then you see Michael Jordan or

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Speaker 7: Lebron James and they do it, and it's just like

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Speaker 7: boom boom all the time. In you can go and

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Speaker 7: play golf and you can hit your driver and so

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Speaker 7: you do two hundred and twenty yards and then the

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Speaker 7: pros they do three hundred and they shoot, you know,

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Speaker 7: minus ten and you are plus thirty five eighteen hollers

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Speaker 7: and Formula one car you cannot jump in. You can

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Speaker 7: you cannot compare yourself as much as I would love to,

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Speaker 7: It's it's not possible. And I think that's that's one

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Speaker 7: of the hardest part in our spots for people to understand.

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Speaker 2: Final four. It's Michael, We're at the end. Are you

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Speaker 2: a speed junkie? Are you feeling it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I am. I Speed is Speed is everything to

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Speaker 1: the sport. Without speed, there is no f one. Speed

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Speaker 1: makes the steaks high, speed makes money come in. Speed

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Speaker 1: makes us watch it, Speed makes the pit stop more interesting.

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Speaker 1: Speed is everything. Speed Give me speed. I have a

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Speaker 1: need for speed. There's a freight trademark I should do

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Speaker 1: because there's so much speed. The driver's skill is so

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Speaker 1: important because if they don't get it right, bad stuff

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Speaker 1: can happen.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just speed for one lap. They have

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Speaker 2: to do fifty plus seventy laps and they have to

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Speaker 2: keep that speed up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the speed is everything. I mean really, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: hate to whisper this into the microphone, but we could

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Speaker 1: eliminate all the other episodes and just talk about speed.

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Speaker 1: But can we No, we can't because we got ads

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Speaker 1: to sell. Sult in.

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Speaker 4: This has been Choosing Sides f one, a production of

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Speaker 4: Sports Illustrated Studios, iHeart Podcast and one oh one Studio Podcast.

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Speaker 4: The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown.

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Speaker 4: This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by senior

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Speaker 4: producer Jojai May Paddle. Scott Stone is the executive producer

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Speaker 4: and head of audio, and Daniel Wexman is Director of

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Speaker 4: podcast Development and production Manager at one on one Studios.

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Speaker 4: At iHeart Podcasts, Sean Titne is our executive producer and

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Speaker 4: a special thank you to Michelle Newman, David Glasser, and

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Speaker 4: David Hootkin from one O one Studios. For more shows

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Speaker 4: from iHeart Podcasts, go visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts, and whatever you do,

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Speaker 4: don't forget to rate us and tell your friends. It

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Speaker 4: really does mean a lot.

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Speaker 2: Next week, on Choosing Sides F one, we are going

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Speaker 2: to talk about the tech nerd. If F one is

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Speaker 2: the merger of Man and Machine, and we just spent

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Speaker 2: most of this episode talking about Man. Well, next week

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Speaker 2: we're going to shift our full attention to the machine.

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Speaker 1: Nerds. Yeah, suck at nerds.