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Speaker 1: Like even this week we got to talk about Takashi

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't even upset with Joe last week. I

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Speaker 1: a lot about Queen's Flip's financial situation. His financial situation

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Speaker 1: So now they're thinking, damn, who done it? Wasn't was

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Speaker 1: it's a free country man. He letting this dude get

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Speaker 1: Nobody can get in there and get back out of there. Now,

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Speaker 1: scared is appalling to me. I reject the notion. I

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Speaker 1: tell my childres and I told him yesterday when we

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Speaker 1: was riding to the movie, Hey man, you don't sit

425
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Speaker 1: there and let fall fight. Sit can't get out of

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Speaker 1: there if you can, and if you can't, you got

427
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Speaker 1: to fight, and you got to know how to fight,

428
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Speaker 1: you know, you got to know what jiu jitsu is,

429
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Speaker 1: and you got to be in some training. So I'm

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Speaker 1: putting my children in there. I want them to know

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Speaker 1: how to roll with it kicking in his shin. He

432
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Speaker 1: don't know nothing about them. Liz keep them far away,

433
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Speaker 1: and Liz keep them far away, and then I try

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Speaker 1: to trick you not to get them up without use

435
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Speaker 1: your legs. I wish I would not use my leg

436
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Speaker 1: y'all gonna trick me into not doing what's working for me.

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00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: I wish I would. I'm gonna keep knocking with the

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00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: legs till they figured out. But dude had no experience

439
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: with fighting. He just got experience with yapping. And nothing

440
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: had with that for a long time. I keep telling y'all,

441
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: some go with yapping. Nah, it ain't no free lunch.

442
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Some go with the yapp machine y'all keep putting out

443
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: there in the culture. Some go with that. You got

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Speaker 1: to pay for some of that. And it was damned

445
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: that like Takasha wasn't even a well in the fight.

446
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Dude grabbed his head and man, you pulled the man.

447
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: You don't just you letting you leaving him wide open.

448
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: You just letting him just leave wide open. Like man,

449
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: you pulled them in get But he wasn't. He wasn't ready.

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Speaker 1: He ain't ready. He not prepared that a little bit

451
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Speaker 1: of a body can't take them kind of kicks and

452
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Speaker 1: punches and you can go back. Even when he was

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Speaker 1: popping in, I said he had some dudes around him

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Speaker 1: that would do it. I never thought he'd do nothing.

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Speaker 1: I never really accepted that he was part of of us.

456
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: I never thought that he'd been involved in anything. I

457
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Speaker 1: never received him that way. No disrespect to him, but

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Speaker 1: I felt like, just like Instagram now giving the paid very,

459
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Speaker 1: I felt like he had the paid verified check. You know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have the press releases out there about what

461
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Speaker 1: he'd un done and who he was, and it was

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Speaker 1: verified through other reputable sources that he was verified. He

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Speaker 1: didn't have that. He had to pay for a check

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Speaker 1: and then paid for a check. Don't last too long.

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Speaker 1: It's blue, just like the other check. It looked just

466
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Speaker 1: like the other check. But some go with that that

467
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: paid check and be stripped from you when that money disappeared.

468
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: When you don't pay this month, they check disappeal. But

469
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: the results from all that madness, you cause it's still there.

470
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: So when the money slowed down, when the car slowdown,

471
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Speaker 1: when they can catch up with the carts, he right

472
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: now they're running behind the car. They couldn't catch up

473
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: when you was popping popping, when the money was so

474
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: they were behind, they would chase, they couldn't catch up.

475
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: Now they're slowly catching up to the car surrounding it,

476
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see what happened. He better holp him.

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Speaker 1: Don't go out like Queen Latif and said it out.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to figure of speech like, they don't do

479
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: that to his career from all angles because he didn't

480
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: disrespect it. That damning everything moving, and he need fans

481
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: and he needs he needs certain things to survive in

482
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: the market. And to ignore that without being talented. That's

483
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: what was so arrogant to me. He ignored everything he

484
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: needed in the industry and he didn't even have talent.

485
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: At some point, talent has to kick in. The money

486
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: and now all leather tools and resources in relationships and

487
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: things like that. It's cool, but at some point talent

488
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: has to kick in. Here's the other thing. I never

489
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: questioned the streets. I know the streets is real. I

490
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: come from it, right. I think people like Takashi, I

491
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: don't think they questioned the streets. I think they truly

492
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: believe what they're saying. I think he believed they ain't

493
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Speaker 1: gonna do nothing. I think he thinks shot at them

494
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: by do something, but I think he thinks, for the

495
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: most part, nothing to happen. This is his first dose

496
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: of reality moving forward, He's gonna have to really change something.

497
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that he want to play gangster.

498
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: You know, down your sword, that's on you. What I

499
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: would like to do right now is take a look

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Speaker 1: over the past history of Summer Takashi six nine antics,

501
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: because I'm not sure when people have catched this video,

502
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: but I want everything to remain in context. It's so

503
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: important that we have the conversations in context on this podcast.

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00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: So let's take a look at a few of these

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00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: clips and we'll talked on blood, pull up body, pull

506
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Speaker 1: up shouts, stop playing with us. They saw in the city.

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00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm definitely the hardest heart in the city. Every song

508
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: I put out makes I don't get no I ain't

509
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: got no gez coachan, I ain't got no offset coachan.

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00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, where like I'm self. So

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00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: for those of you listen, what we're looking at is

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00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: this was kind of when he first was taking off,

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00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: when some of this music was first starting to catch

514
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: on again. He had the walls behind them. So even

515
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: though he was a little yeah, I mean unbelievable, he

516
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: had the walls with him. And sometimes it ain't about

517
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: your strength, it's about the strength that you can pull,

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00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: you know. And um, I think a lot of people

519
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: thought those guys that was with him was willing to

520
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: go wherever we need to go to keep this guy

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Speaker 1: in a position to make money. And so if he

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00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: was willing to crash, the will will crash this month.

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00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: So we can say, ain't nobody playing with this hill?

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00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: And so they was playing a crash show game. I

525
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: always tell my people stay away from the crash show.

526
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: You ain't even necessary. They got to take care unless

527
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: stay right in front. Are you playing with you? Let's

528
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: stay about to you know, somebody happened with your life.

529
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of times it's stay away from the

530
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: crash out crew. Universe are correct itself. But as you

531
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Speaker 1: see him with these guys, all these guys he told

532
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: on and he says it's because they try to his

533
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: baby mama. You know, I look at this whole situation

534
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: is stupid and slippery. It's just nonsense right where I

535
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: come from, Man, My my family don't believe in telling

536
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, so I was birth different. Let's listen to it.

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00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: Let's listen and look at a little bit more. I

538
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: think this is probably what gave him the strength to

539
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: say they ain't gonna do nothing, because he was with

540
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: some guys who kind of gave him a certain view

541
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: of the ghetto and the trap and the structure around

542
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: here that may have look weaker than it really is.

543
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: They may have made it a period weaker than it

544
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: really is, and he might have believed that because they

545
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: was willing to push a certain line to him and

546
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: feel like, Yo, they let Shatty do all of that

547
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: day ain't really about that. I saw it with my

548
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: own eyes. That might be why he believes some of this.

549
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: But see, you can't see the world through shotty eyes.

550
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I can't see the world through my people eyes. I

551
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: had to see the world through my own eyes. I

552
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: have to be able to deal with the things I

553
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: invited my life myself. Right, it's strengthened numbers, and I

554
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: know my people willing to go wherever we need to

555
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: go about me. But at the end of the day,

556
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: I have to be prepared to defend myself, especially when

557
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm placing myself any circumstances that call for me to

558
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: have to defend the things that come out of my mouth.

559
00:31:43,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: Pay attention. It was a point of time people was

560
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: really believing this kid, and they was believing him because

561
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: of the guys. But if you look, look, it's so loud.

562
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Every time I'm in the city, I don't look behind

563
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: my back. This is really my city, Like no one

564
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: ever tried to Yo. You can't pull you can't pull

565
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: a video out like yo. I'm sorry. Yo, you know,

566
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You can't Yo, hear me. You can't. You can't.

567
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: You can't find a video right now, right you can't

568
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: find a video right now of a person touch. So

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00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: this is when he showed up the old block for

570
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: them ten seconds. So you got to pay for all

571
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: this shit. Um, I don't know. Ain't no free lunch now,

572
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: Takashi six nine got to be like it ain't no

573
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: free lunch, home boy. Were we're pre saving the chicken?

574
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: You are save the album hard n hard? Well, I

575
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: get that. We'll get down. I gonna yea, let's go.

576
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't pull up on you boy. Let's gonna keep

577
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: it going, keep it going. You see how la f

578
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: what you Yeah, I see that, so you and why

579
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: he's scared right here though it's four five big boys

580
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: around him, but he paral pay attention. He gonna end

581
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: up making a song together again. Man. I believe that

582
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: if nothing else six nine better learn from what happened

583
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: in that situation. We'll probably revisit, you know, the new

584
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: news that comes out moving forward. I definitely want to

585
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk about this. TikTok CEO has been

586
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: brought in front of Congress to speak about TikTok being

587
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: an issue of national security. They are pushing the band TikTok.

588
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: I want to kind of speak about that, and we're

589
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: gonna look at some of what happened at the hearing.

590
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I believe it's much more than me sta eye in

591
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: regards to what's going on with TikTok. I am also

592
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: of the belief that TikTok has been influential in the

593
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: market in a way that's uncomfortable for the rest of

594
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: the industry. I think TikTok may have been the fastest

595
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: platform in the industry ever to get to something like

596
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: five hundred million, and then chat GPT just beat them

597
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: out and got to it. Quicker than them, but TikTok

598
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: is in a position where it has kind of cornered

599
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: the market as far as ad dollars, as far as viewership,

600
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: as far as retention, as far as just people being

601
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: active on the platform. I think TikTok has now placed

602
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: themselves in the n number one position. They've took the

603
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: leading position in the race, and I think that's uncomfortable

604
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: what has been said. And I haven't did a lot

605
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: of research on this, but it makes complete sense to me.

606
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Is Facebook seeing that it's losing the amount of money

607
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: that is losing and TikTok is continuing to grow, It's

608
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna take its chances as sending one of this bullets

609
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: to take it out. So I'm being told that Facebook

610
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: has in some kind of way by proxy, funded this

611
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: investigation into TikTok and is push into getting TikTok bad.

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00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: I cannot validate that by any means, but I do

613
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: want to speak to it because we have a podcast

614
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: and that's what we do. Let's take a look at

615
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: some of what happened at this congressional hearing and let's

616
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: talk our way through it. Let's go your employees. Everything

617
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: is seen in China. A gate way to spire is

618
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: not the only way TikTok and bite downs can do.

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Speaker 1: The betting of the CCP Chicktok is helped you race

620
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: events and people. China wants the world to forget. It's

621
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: even censored an American teenager who exposed CCP's genocide and

622
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: torture of wig Or Muslims. The facts show that byte

623
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Speaker 1: Dance is beholden to the CCP, and Bye Dance and

624
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: TikTok are one and the same. TikTok also targets our children.

625
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: The Foru algorithm is a tool for TikTok to own

626
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: their attention and pray on their innocence. Within minutes of

627
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: creating an account, your algorithm can promote suicide, self harm,

628
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: and eating disorders to children. It encourages challenges for them

629
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: to put their lives in danger and allows adults to

630
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: pray on our beautiful beloved daughters. And let me clarify

631
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: a few things for the Sacred conversation. I know we

632
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: may have people listening that don't maybe know some of

633
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the jargons. So CCPCE for the China Communist Party. So

634
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Speaker 1: when you hear them say the CCP, they basically is

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Speaker 1: speaking about the Chinese government. When you hear them say

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Speaker 1: biden Nance, that's the company that owns TikTok. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. TikTok is saying that it cannot be influenced

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Speaker 1: by the CCP, which is the Chinese government, even though

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Speaker 1: Bidenans has people from the Chinese government very involved in

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Speaker 1: the process. Right, so Bidinance owns TikTok. Now, what TikTok

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Speaker 1: is proposing for America is, Hey, we are trying to

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Speaker 1: put all of American data behind a firewall in Texas

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Speaker 1: and call it Project Texas. This would allow Americans to

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Speaker 1: be in control of American data. Now, what I believe

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Speaker 1: is that with a hundred and fifty Americans having TikTok,

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Speaker 1: it may be too late for them to think that

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Speaker 1: that is effective enough. And then with the push from

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Speaker 1: Facebook on top of that, it's gonna make it a

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Speaker 1: real interesting situation because I believe everything that's saying about

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Speaker 1: TikTok last to all social media platforms across the board.

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Speaker 1: They just a choosing to outline TikTok because of the

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Speaker 1: China influence as well as taking up out a market

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Speaker 1: share and so just catching y'all love on some of

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00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: the jargon. Let's pay attention. It's also a portal for

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Speaker 1: drug dealers to sell a list at Fenton. All that

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00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: China has banned yet is helping Mexican cartels produce send

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Speaker 1: across our border and poison our children in China. The

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Speaker 1: CCP proactively prohibits this type of TikTok content that promotes

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Speaker 1: death and despair to kids. From the data it collects

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Speaker 1: to the content it controls, TikTok is a grave threat

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Speaker 1: of foreign influence in American life. It's been said it's

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00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: like allowing the Soviet Union the power to produce Saturday

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Speaker 1: Morning cartoons during the Cold War, but much more powerful

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Speaker 1: and much more dangerous. Banning your platform will address the

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Speaker 1: immediate threats. Make no mistake, this committee is also looking

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Speaker 1: to the future. America needs to be prepared to stop

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Speaker 1: the next technological tool or weapon China will use for

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Speaker 1: its own strategic gain. We must prevent any app, website,

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Speaker 1: and platform like TikTok from ever spying on Americans again,

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Speaker 1: and we must provide the strongest protections possible for our children.

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Speaker 1: That is why this committee is leading on a national

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Speaker 1: privacy and data security standard. It restricts sensitive American data

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Speaker 1: from reaching our adversaries to begin with, and what big

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Speaker 1: tech and data brokers collect, process, store, and sell. The

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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist government can compel companies based in Beijing like

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Speaker 1: TikTok to share data with the Communist government through existing

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Speaker 1: Beijing law or coercion. National security experts or sound in

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Speaker 1: the alarm warning that the Chinese Communist government could require

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Speaker 1: TikTok to compromise device security, maliciously American user data, promote

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Speaker 1: pro communist propaganda, and undermine American interests. Disinformation campaigns could

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Speaker 1: be launched by the Chinese Communist government through TikTok, which

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Speaker 1: has already become rife with misinformation and disinformation, illegal activities,

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Speaker 1: and hate speech. A recent report found the twenty percent

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Speaker 1: of TikTok search results on prominent news topics contain misinformation.

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Speaker 1: Social media's profitability depends on growth and engagement. More eyes

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Speaker 1: on their content for longer time leads to more advertising

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Speaker 1: dollars and revenue generation. Addictive algorithms are fine tuned to

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Speaker 1: optimize growth and engagement without necessarily taking into account potential

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Speaker 1: harms to users. Children and teens are particularly vulnerable. Frequent

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Speaker 1: online use of interactive media on digital devices is associated

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Speaker 1: with increased levels of depression among middle and high school students.

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Speaker 1: Research has found the TikTok's addictive algorithms recommend videos to

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Speaker 1: teens that create and exacerbate feelings of emotional distress, including

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Speaker 1: videos promoting suicide, self harm, and eating disorders. Public outrage

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Speaker 1: and hollow apologies alone are not going to rain in

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Speaker 1: big tech. Our witness today is mister show Chew, chief

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Speaker 1: executive officer of TikTok. You're recognized for five minutes. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Cheer Rogers, ranking member Plane, members of the committee, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time. I am show Chew and I'm

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Speaker 1: from Singapore. That's why I was born as when my parents. Now,

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Speaker 1: as TikTok has grown, we've tried to learn the lessons

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Speaker 1: of companies that have come before us, especially when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the safety of teenagers. While they're vast majority

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Speaker 1: of people on TikTok are over eighteen, and one of

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00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: our fastest growing demographics are people over thirty five. We

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time adopting measures to protect teenagers.

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Speaker 1: Many of those measures are firsts for the social media industry.

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Speaker 1: We forbid direct messaging for people on the sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: we have a sixteen minute watch time by default for

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Speaker 1: those on the eighteen. Is it accred to say that

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Speaker 1: you are in regular communication with the CEO of Byte

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Speaker 1: Dance beyond robo Cho? Just yes, I am in thank

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Speaker 1: you communication with him? Okay. Kelly Jong is the CEO

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Speaker 1: of Bye Dance China, overseeing Doyan, the Chinese version of TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Are you in regular communication with Kelly? I'm not in

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Speaker 1: regular communication with her. The Byte Dance editor in chief

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Speaker 1: is Zong Poop Pooping correct. I believe so and woo so.

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Speaker 1: I need people to understand these are very surface questions, remember,

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Speaker 1: but it's very important in regards to technique. Right, I

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Speaker 1: lay a few foundational questions down and then I move

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Speaker 1: around those questions. It's important you answer these questions with

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Speaker 1: certainty because if you say no or I don't know,

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Speaker 1: then that's going to lean to our side in regards

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Speaker 1: to saying what the uncertainty says that it could be possible, right,

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Speaker 1: and so you will here along the Linesdale started to say,

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Speaker 1: do you one h know this? Do you one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent know this? Because if you say yes to that

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Speaker 1: and we find any inclination that you did something on

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Speaker 1: the contrary, then you'll heal responsible and your credibility is shot.

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Speaker 1: I believe that they're gonna ban TikTok. I've already I've

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Speaker 1: already said that TikTok has put their plan in place.

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, we'll talk about that. Let's pay Atten, who

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Speaker 1: was reported to be the Communist Party secretary of Byte

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Speaker 1: Dence and who was called for the party committee to

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Speaker 1: quote take the lead across all party lines to ensure

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Speaker 1: that algorithm is enforced by quote correct political direction. Just

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Speaker 1: this morning, The Wall Street Journal reported that the CCP

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Speaker 1: is a posed to a forced sale TikTok by Byte Dance,

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Speaker 1: quoting a CCP spokesman as saying, the Chinese government would

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Speaker 1: make a decision regarding any sale of TikTok, so the

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Speaker 1: CCP believes they have the final say over your company.

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Speaker 1: I have zero confidence in your assertion that byte Dance

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Speaker 1: and TikTok are not beholden to the CCP. Next question.

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Speaker 1: Heating content is a way of promoting and moderating content

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Speaker 1: in your current or previous positions within Chinese companies, have

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Speaker 1: employees engaged in heating content for users outside of China

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Speaker 1: very quickly. Yes or no. Our heating process is approved

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Speaker 1: by our local teams in the various countries. The answers yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Have any moderation tools been used to remove

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Speaker 1: content on TikTok associated with the weaker genocide? Yes or no,

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00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: We do not remove that kind of content. TikTok is

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00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: a place for freedom of expression and chero. Just like

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Speaker 1: I said, if you use our app, you can go

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Speaker 1: on it. Then you will see a lot of users

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Speaker 1: around the world expressing content on that topic and many others.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. What about the massacre in Tianamen Square? Yes

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Speaker 1: or no? I'm sorry, I didn't hear the question the

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Speaker 1: massacre in Tianamen Square. That kind of content is available

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Speaker 1: on our platform. You can go and search it. I

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Speaker 1: will remind you that making falls or misleading statements to

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Speaker 1: Congress as a federal crime. I understand again, you can

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Speaker 1: go on a platform you will find that content. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, reclaiming my time. Can you say with one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent certainty that byte Dance or the CCP cannot

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Speaker 1: use your company or its divisions to heat content to

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Speaker 1: promote pro CCP messages for an act of aggression against Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: We do not promote or remove content at the request

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Speaker 1: of the Chinese government. The question, we will replain the

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Speaker 1: question is are you one hundred percent certain that they

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Speaker 1: cannot use your company to promote such messages. It is

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Speaker 1: our commitment to this committee and allow us this that

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Speaker 1: we will keep this free from any manipulation by any government.

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Speaker 1: If you can't say one hundred percent certain, I take

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Speaker 1: that as a noun. It's a previously referenced to talk

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Speaker 1: spite on American journalists. Can you say with one percent

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Speaker 1: certainty that neither body okay? So it's clear that there's

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Speaker 1: some restriction as to what he wants to say. If

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00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: you pay attention, he never he's kind of not answering.

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00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, I know you're trying to catch me,

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Speaker 1: So I'm playing this weird game, and that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: come out good. That's not gonna translate well to the

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Speaker 1: American people, because I'm gonna be honest with you. The

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Speaker 1: more I thought about it, it is a threat. Though.

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Speaker 1: If China got a hold of that and had for

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Speaker 1: the people in the country, got that in their pocket

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Speaker 1: and probably fit. They are seventy eighty percent of those

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Speaker 1: people are kind of sheep type individuals and a follow

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Speaker 1: a narrative if it's placed in the right position at

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Speaker 1: the right time, with the right influential people, and you

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Speaker 1: can get this done with money China has access to, right.

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Speaker 1: It's just it can get weird, it can get slippery.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's a lot that has to happen at

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Speaker 1: the same time. Or boy, they've done some magnificent things

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00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: with technology and playing in They've been strategic in their

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00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: approach to some of these things. So I can only

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00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: imagine what kind of technology they have if we're able

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Speaker 1: to do things at the drop of a dime. Get

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Speaker 1: any song in the world that you want to listen

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Speaker 1: to at the drop of a dime, any information that

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Speaker 1: you won't at the drop of a dime, just by

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00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: this little thing in your pocket. Like, this is weird

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00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: times we live in. So pay attention. It is this

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Speaker 1: warfare that this can lead to. And the way that

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Speaker 1: technology can be utilized in warfare is also another conversation.

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Speaker 1: So that's when they mix it in with national security.

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Speaker 1: They gonna get this out of here. If he ain't careful.

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Speaker 1: Pay attention, thank you, madam. Sure, let me let me

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Speaker 1: just start out by saying, mister Chue, that I don't

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Speaker 1: find what you suggested with Project Texas, and this firewall

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Speaker 1: that's being suggested to whoever will be will be acceptable

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Speaker 1: to me. In other words, you know, they still believe

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Speaker 1: that the Beijing Communist government will still control and have

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Speaker 1: the ability to influence what you do, and so this

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00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: idea of this Project Texas is simply not acceptable. According

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Speaker 1: to a recent report, TikTok is on target to make

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Speaker 1: between fifteen and eighteen billion dollars in revenue this year.

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Speaker 1: Is that an accurate forecast? Congressman, As a private company,

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Speaker 1: we are not sharing all I think say how much

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Speaker 1: money will TikTok make by delivering personalized advertisements just to

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Speaker 1: your users in the United States? Will you give me

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Speaker 1: that information again, Congressman, respectfully, as private company. Look, Mike,

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Speaker 1: the impression you're giving, and I know you know, I

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Speaker 1: can understand why you're trying to give that impression, is

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Speaker 1: that you know that you're just performing some kind of

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00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: public service here, right, I mean this as a benign

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Speaker 1: company that's just performing a public service. I may you're

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Speaker 1: not maybe that's not what you're saying, but I don't

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Speaker 1: buy it, right, My concern here is primarily about the

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Speaker 1: privacy issue, the fact that TikTok is making all kinds

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Speaker 1: of money by collect gathering private information about Americans that

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Speaker 1: they don't need for their business purposes, and then they

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Speaker 1: sell it. And I mentioned this legislation that the branking

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Speaker 1: that the Chair and I have that would minimize data

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Speaker 1: collection and make it much more difficult for TikTok and

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Speaker 1: other companies to do that. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: make some commitments today, why don't all as should to

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Speaker 1: make some commitments with regard to this legislation. And you

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00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: know you're going to tell me, well, the bill isn't

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Speaker 1: passed and so therefore I don't have to do it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you say you're benign, you want to

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Speaker 1: do good things for the public. So let me ask you,

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Speaker 1: why not What about a commitment that says that you

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Speaker 1: won't sell the data that you collect? Would you commit

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Speaker 1: to that not selling the data you collect? Congressman, I

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Speaker 1: believe we don't sell data to any data broker. You

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Speaker 1: don't sell to anyone. We don't sell data to data brokers.

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you data brokers you sell to anyone.

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Speaker 1: In other words, under our build you can only use

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Speaker 1: the data for your own purposes, not to sell it

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Speaker 1: to anyone. Anyone. These are high power games. You can say, well,

851
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: we don't sell data to data companies, No, but we

852
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: sell them to telephone companies, or we sell them to

853
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Speaker 1: a third party which who then sells them to data companies.

854
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So it's trickery involved with

855
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: all of these conversations up here, and you can see

856
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: the congress people understand it. So I didn't say that

857
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying specifically, and you can you can see how

858
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: they craft the questions up. The kind of game that's

859
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: being played. It's like a got you type of game.

860
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: And he's been prepped on the other side as the

861
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: CEO that they're playing this got your game, and once

862
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: you get here, they're probably eighty percent already gonna ban you.

863
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: You gotta kind of walk it back some kind of way,

864
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if he's gonna be able to

865
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Speaker 1: do that with the outside influence and with Facebook falling

866
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: in the way that it's falling. My concern is is

867
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Speaker 1: that they've already transferred maybe a quarter to fifty percent

868
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: of the audience with cap cut for a long time.

869
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: You can only use cap cut to do certain things

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00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: on TikTok. They had stopped lading you edit inside the

871
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: app and they would make you going download another app.

872
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: I think that that was them calculating and saying, hey,

873
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: we are probably about to get banned, let's start moving

874
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: people over. And so I believe cap cut would be

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00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: the new thing. That's me, that's my forecast, that's my

876
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: business intuition to speaking to me when I've seen that move,

877
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: because if you look at cap cut, everything that you

878
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: see on TikTok comes from cap cutting now, so I

879
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: can see the integration and it was pretty smart and swift.

880
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: If they led China capitalize twice on our social media

881
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: present before we are able to do so, then I

882
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: would say that they may have some kind of craftsmanship

883
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: in regards to the American experience, like they may understand

884
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: how we like to do this social media thing better

885
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: than us, which would mean that they may be able

886
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: to influence us in the years to come. Because this

887
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: is a long game in China and America and all

888
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: these entities have a long memory. They don't play a

889
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: short game. Makes you you know that I actually am

890
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: in support of some rules. I didn't ask you whether Brules,

891
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: I ask you whether the company TikTok would commit to

892
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: not selling its data to anyone and just using it

893
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: for its own purposes. Internally, I can get back to

894
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: you under details. Get back to me, all right. Another

895
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: thing that's in our bill says that we would prohibit

896
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: targeting marketing to people under the age of seventeen. Which

897
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: would be willing to agree to prohibit targeted marketing to

898
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: people Americans under the age of seventeen? A Congressman, We

899
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: have actually strict the rules for advertisers in terms of

900
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: what they can show to our do you prohibit target

901
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: Would you be willing to prohibit targeted marketing to those

902
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: under seventeen? A Ministry spokeswoman continue to quote. If that

903
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: is true, China will firmly oppose it, she said, referring

904
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: to the forced sale. So, despite your assertions to the contrary,

905
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: KINDA certainly thinks it is in control of TikTok and

906
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: its software. Is that not correct, Congressman? TikTok is not

907
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: available in mainland China, and today we are headquarted in

908
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and Singapore. But I'm not saying that you

909
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: know the founders of by Dance on not Chinese, nor

910
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: am I saying that we don't make use of Chinese employees,

911
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: just like many other companies around the world. We do,

912
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, use the expertise on some engineering projects, but

913
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: according to your Ministry spokeswoman, it would be a devestiture

914
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: of exporting technology from China. So they again China thinks

915
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: they own it even though you do not mediure. I

916
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: just like to ask me to have to consent to

917
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: put today's Wall Street without Objection order into the record.

918
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask you to discuss any privileged attorney client materials.

919
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: But did anyone aside from your lawyers assist you in

920
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: preparation for today's hearing? I prepared for this hearing of

921
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: my team here in DC. Did anyone at Byte Dance

922
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: directly provide input, help or instruction plan testimony today? Congressman,

923
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: this is a very high profile hearing. My phone is

924
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: full of well wishes, you know, but I prepared for

925
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: this hearing with my team here in DC. Are you

926
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Are you willing to share who who helped prepare you

927
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: for this hearing with the committee and you can do

928
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: I can follow up with you, okay, like can you

929
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: guarantee that no one at Byke Dance had a role

930
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: in preparing you for today's hearing? Like I said, Congressman,

931
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: this is a high profile hearing. A lot of people

932
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: around the world was selling me wishes and unsolicited advice.

933
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: But I prepared for this hearing. My team here in

934
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: DC are the attorneys representing TikTok also representing Bike Dance. Yes,

935
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: I Belisa okay. So that was a very interesting exchange.

936
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: They're trying to establish the relationship between the two and

937
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: if he was influenced by them as to what he

938
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: should say, and if he was influenced by Biden Dance.

939
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: They're basically saying, that's CCP, which is the Chinese Communist Party, right,

940
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: and so that's basically the Chinese government. Picture your op

941
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: having head for the people on your team in his

942
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: pocket and able to influence them some kind of way.

943
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: That's a powerful thing. Makes it no different from Facebook,

944
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: don't makes it no different from Instagram, what's out any

945
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: of these other platforms, because what also can happen is

946
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: that information can be for sale, and America is corrupt

947
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: for the most part, where money can get you most

948
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: things in America, So we also got to establish rules

949
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: and boundaries in regards to all of this information. But

950
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: I think that outlining TikTok because of what TikTok's been

951
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: able to do. If you paid attention to that exchange,

952
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: he asked them very specifically, eight did anybody from Bidenance

953
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: help you with this? And he said, I, quote, I

954
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: got prepared for this meeting here with my team in La.

955
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: In quote. What that means to me is, now, most

956
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: people take that and that's an answer to that question.

957
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: But in this political field, he didn't tell you nothing.

958
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Just there he had a definitive statement that said nothing,

959
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: and that's what happens in this political space. And so

960
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: they dig a little deeper and then he replies again,

961
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: I got prepared for this meeting here in LA with

962
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: my team. My phone is full of well wishes and

963
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: unsolicited advice. This says to me that there may be

964
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: a paper trail of someone on from Bidenance giving him

965
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: some advice as to what to say. So he has

966
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: to not definitively say that that's not available, but try

967
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: not to acknowledge that. And boys a thin line up there,

968
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: and everything comes into play, and I think he just

969
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: has a long way to go to convince these people,

970
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: or not even these people, just to wig a lot

971
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: of that trick bag they've been placed in me. But

972
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: I think the cap cut thing is the Flea Flicker Pass.

973
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: Now after Project Texas, all protected US data will be

974
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: stored here, with the access controlled by a special team

975
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: of US US personnel. Again, Congresswoman, this is something that

976
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: as far as I understand, no other company, including American companies,

977
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: are willing to go. So maybe this is something that

978
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: we could ask the industry to provide it. Don't just

979
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: us to protect sharing information. I do want to quote

980
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: from employee Ease that you had that and here's the quote.

981
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: Everything is seen in China is really what they said.

982
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: People who were in touch with the sunset of a

983
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: data were saying that, how do you respond to that?

984
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: I disagree with that statement. Well, I know you disagree

985
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: with that statement, But my point is, how does that

986
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: happen that employees of the of the company are saying that,

987
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: In fact, that's not true. I cannot speak to I

988
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know who this person is, so I cannot speak

989
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: to what the person has or has not said. What

990
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: I can say is, you know, based on my position

991
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: in this company and the responsibility that I have. That

992
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: statement is just not true, Thank you, madam. Chairwoman. Mister show,

993
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: are you aware of Chinese Communist Party leader chairman Jijing

994
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: Ping's comments in May twenty twenty one during a Communist

995
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: Paul Eld study session where he instructed colleagues to target

996
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: different countries, different audiences with short form video. Are you

997
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: aware of these comments? Yes or no? Congress pitch it

998
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: this though. They get up, they bring you in front

999
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: of all these people, sit you on the table by

1000
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: yourself with a mike. They put like twenty four people

1001
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: up down and they got questions for you. And everything's

1002
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: riding on this. Your whole billion dollar company is riding

1003
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: on this right now for them if it's aspired to right.

1004
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: But I'm saying they did Facebook like this, They've did

1005
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: people that's involved with crypto like this. Like there's a

1006
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: couple of companies. You get so big and they do

1007
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: you like this. That's another reason why I'm watching this,

1008
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: not just because of what's happening with TikTok and it's

1009
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: implications as national national security is concerned. I'm also looking

1010
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: at it like, hey, if you move through the market quick.

1011
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: I imagine people gonna try to stop you, shut you down,

1012
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: slip you up, slow you down. They're gonna try to

1013
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: do something to make sure that you don't take over.

1014
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: Just we don't hand it to him. If anything, he

1015
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: got to jump through hoops and switch lanes and come

1016
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: back and pick something up. Right, we ain't gonna just

1017
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: give it to him. It's gonna be a fight. It's

1018
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: gonna be some restraint for you to take a top

1019
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: position like that, especially if you ain't from the country.

1020
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: Like they ain't trying to have that. But it's too late,

1021
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: so now they're trying to ban it. But I believe

1022
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: the damage is done what they know now Again people

1023
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: look at that and say, well, what threat can they

1024
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: have When they say they're tracking you, people don't understand

1025
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: what they translates to when they're tracking you. That basically,

1026
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: your phone is the extension of your brain. They know

1027
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 1: more about you than you probably know about you because

1028
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: they're looking at data. You're looking at things emotionally about yourself,

1029
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: so you'll be naive about some of the things you're into. Right,

1030
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: you might be looking at this kind of point and saying,

1031
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: why I ain't really into that, well, yeah, you're really

1032
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: into that. Every time you pull it up. Ninety percent

1033
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: of the time that's what you pull, right, So they

1034
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: can look at things and have more of a definitive

1035
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: direction as to what you involved. Then, and so if

1036
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: they can track you trek, what you eat, trek, where

1037
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: you go, trek, what you serves, tchrek, what you buy,

1038
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: these things can become an issue. Right. You got to

1039
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: use your man to understand that I'm not the way

1040
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: of these comments. Okay, Well, and as was pointed out

1041
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: by Chairwoman Rogers, you have regular contact with Chinese Communist

1042
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: Party secretary mister Zang Fouping. Who is your boss at

1043
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: Bye Dance? Correct? No, no, no, not neither my boss,

1044
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: nor do we have faking contact. But you have regular

1045
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: contact with Bye Dance, with the CEO of by Dance,

1046
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: who is mister Zang Fouping is the editor in chief.

1047
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: My colleague representative Burgess a few minutes ago exposed that

1048
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: TikTok and By Dance share legal teams. You confirmed this, correct, Oh,

1049
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: General council is yes, an American lawyer. Also, my colleague

1050
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: representative a lot of confirm that your parent company, Byte

1051
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: Dance currently can access user data. Yes, we have to

1052
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: be most specific. Yes, off, I'm not asking after Project Texas,

1053
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm asking now. Yes, some use the data as a

1054
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: public data Congresswoman, which means everybody in that What's interesting

1055
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: to me is that you've used the word transparency over

1056
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: half a dozen times in your opening testimony and subsequently

1057
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: again in your answers to my colleagues. Yet the interesting

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Speaker 1: thing to me is that Byte Dance, your parent company,

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Speaker 1: has gone out of their way to hide an airbrush

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01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: corporate structure ties to the CCP, the company's founder, and

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Speaker 1: their activities. You can look no further than the fact

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01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: that by Dance website has been scrubbed. In fact, we

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: found web pages from the Beijing Internet Association, the industry

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01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: association charged with Communist party building work of internet companies

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Speaker 1: in Beijing. They have been archived, but since deleted. Makes

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Speaker 1: you kind of wonder why yes or no. Byte Dance

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: is required to have a member of the Chinese government

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01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: on its board with veto power. Is that correct? No,

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: that is not correct. Bike Dance owns some Chinese businesses,

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01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: and you're talking about this very special subsidiary Chinese business

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01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: license show. I'm going to have to move on. You've

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01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: said repeatedly that there is no threat, that this is

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01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: a platform for entertainment and for fun. I have to

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: ask you, then, if there is no threat to Americans,

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: if there is no threat to our data privacy security,

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01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: why did an internal memo from TikTok corporate headquarters explicitly

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01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: coach senior management to quote downplay the parent company Bike Dance.

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01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: Why would they say downplay the China association and downplay AI.

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Speaker 1: This is from an internal memo from your company. Why

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01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: if you had nothing to hide, would you need to

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01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: downplay the association with bike Dance and China. Congressman, I

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: have not seen this Camo. You can that question, mister Show.

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01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to direct your attention to the screen for

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: a short video, if you don't mind, mister Show. That

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: video was posted forty one days ago. As you can see,

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01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: it has captioned me as f at the House Energy

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01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: and Commerce Committee on March twenty third of this year.

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01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: This video was posted before to this hearing was publicly noticed.

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01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a very interesting point to raise. But

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01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: more concerning is the fact that it names this chairwoman

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01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: by name. Your own community guideline state that you have

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01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: a firm stance against enabling violence on or off TikTok.

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: We do not allow people to use our platform to

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: threaten or incite violence, or to promote violent extremist organizations, individuals,

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: or acts. When there is a threat to public safety,

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: or an account is used to promote or glorify off

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: platform violence, we ban the account. This video has been

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Speaker 1: up for forty one days. It is a direct threat

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Speaker 1: to the chairwoman of this committee, the people in this room,

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01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: and yet it still remains on the platform. And you

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Speaker 1: expect us to believe that you are capable of maintaining

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Speaker 1: the data security, privacy, and security of one hundred and

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: fifty million Americans, where you can't even protect the people

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Speaker 1: in this room. I think that is a blatant display

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01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: of how vulnerable people who use TikTok are. You couldn't

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: take action after forty one days when a clear threat,

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01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: a very violent threat to the chairwoman of this committee

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Speaker 1: in the members of this committee, was posted on your platform.

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: You damn well know that you cannot protect the data

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Speaker 1: in security of this committee or the one hundred and

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: fifty million users of your app, because it is an

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Speaker 1: extension of the CCP and with that a yell back,

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01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: can I respawn? Sure, we're gonna move on. Another thing

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: I think is interesting is that this is industry standard.

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: A lot of things TikTok has been able to do

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: is use what's available and just do more things and

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: be more effective than its predecessors and its competition. I

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01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: just find it interesting that this is not an industry

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: of tech, it's just on TikTok. When this information is

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Speaker 1: available to Facebook, it's available to Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp, it's

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01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: available to all these different things. It's just it's an

1122
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: interesting fight. Something's happening with that makes me lean more

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: into the conspiracy. I also noticed that with Facebook losing

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: all of that money, man, they're losing a lot of money.

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: Elon must come in with the pay verification. They double

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: up behind him. Let's say you got two hundred million Americans,

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01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: you charge fifteen dollars a month. Let's say forty to

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of them take that. That's a whole that

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: generates a whole bunch of more revenue for you. Now

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: the celebrities get upset and they get mad. Oh man,

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm sick of this. Man, I'm a celebrity. I work hard,

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01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: for my blue check. I understand that those are you

1133
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: this thirsty, you'll have an opportunity to pay something to

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: separate yourself. Trust me, in the long run, you will

1135
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: be a fool not to think Instagram is going to

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01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: do something to separate the celebrities from just the regular

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: people on the They will roll something out. Now, if

1138
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: you just thirsty, thirsty, thirsty, you're gonna have to pay something.

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01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: There'll be something I imagine that you can pay that

1140
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: will make your account look different. I don't know what

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: it'll be, but that's just me brainstorming. But I do

1142
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: one hundred percent lean into what I believe to be

1143
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: the case as to they will roll something out to

1144
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: separate the celebrities because what they don't want to do

1145
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: is run the celebrities off the platform, because if the

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: celebrities are not on the platform, then you have an issue.

1147
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: A lot of these things are still celebrity driven. Then

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01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 1: with TikTok, they've been able to even take that element

1149
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: and remove it, but Instagram and celebrity driven, all the

1150
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: rest of these things are kind of celebrity driven in

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01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: a way where you don't just want to run the

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01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: celebrities off, right, So they will do something. But again

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01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 1: it may be a risk. I don't know. We'll keep

1154
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: looking at it. I do believe that it's an interesting thing.

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: I can definitely see that it's a risk, and I

1156
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: can definitely see he doesn't want to say certain things

1157
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: which draws my attention to a man. Some may be

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01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: up with that right now. I do know. If I'm

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01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: sitting in front of twenty five people, and I do

1160
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: know it's fifteen billion this year on the line about

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: what I say, and we out hustling the everybody, they

1162
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: trying to trip me up, how do I respond? Right? So,

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, this is just something that I watch.

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm interested in all of these these different things. We're

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the text stone in Troy, but before

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: I get to that, let's let's talk about this man.

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: Me and the kids went to see John WICKFO. I

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01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: took my kids to see John WICKFO. John Wick four,

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: for those of you who are not aware, is now

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: in theaters, and we went and did the four D experience.

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: I've always been taking them too that sense it's been available,

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01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: and the four D experience in the Imax, it's where

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: your seat is sync with the movie. Right along with um.

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01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: They have smoke, and they have water, and they have heat,

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01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: and they have say John Wiggles being shot from behind

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: you a filet on the back of your head like

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, some air, like bullets flying back when they

1178
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: get in the shootout, and just certain things. So's it's

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: very interesting. And we went and seen that for people

1180
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: who has the South John Wick man, it made me

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: want to go watch all of them, Like I think

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01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and start watching John Wicks. But

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01:09:56,160 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: just from a business perspective, I was explaining to my kids, like, yo,

1184
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: for somebody to get the four movies. I was trying

1185
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: to tell them how hard that is, right. I know

1186
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: they're too young to really understand that. But if you

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: have a sequel to a movie, that's that means you

1188
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: did a hell of a job. If you're able to

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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: take the same character and utilize him four times in

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01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: the same story with just different plot, that is that

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01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: means you have an immense interest in the market, Like

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: that is so valuable to have. That's what you call

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: a franchise. And also with the movie thing, it's almost

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01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: like John Wick them And I could be wrong about

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01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: this because I'm not like a movie buff, right, But

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01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: it seems like John Wick and whoever wrote that. I

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01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: should get the producer's name because I believe credit is

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01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: so important. I apologize about that because I am a

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01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,919
Speaker 1: fellow creator and think that's extremely important. But the writing,

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: it's executed in a way where this movie will have

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes with nothing but straight action. Nobody

1202
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: said nothing. I will point it out to my kids.

1203
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: They they so caught in and like, what the hell

1204
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: he's I mean, it's going down. They throwing somebody over here,

1205
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: kick him in the head, drop him down. Due, it's

1206
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: so much happening. So we're looking like and I'm telling

1207
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: them it's been eight minutes. Ain't nobody to talk. It's

1208
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 1: been straight just fighting and running and jumping in the

1209
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: kind just action. And I'm not sure a lot of

1210
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: action movies can sustain that long. I guess my question

1211
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: is what does it take? Because you wonder is that

1212
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: a budget thing or is that a creative thing? Right?

1213
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: Is that more of a budget I mean where you

1214
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: have the space to do these action stunts or you're

1215
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: able to put much more action than the movie. What's

1216
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: the cost of that? Right? What does that look like

1217
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: because the explosions in all of the CGI, right, but

1218
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: it's like for them to be able to go four

1219
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: or five minutes not seeing nothing in the movie in

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01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: a straight action. These are the old slates in the

1221
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: movie that made the movie what it is. You know,

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: this is what makes it legendary. People take these out

1223
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: and they get held up in there. You remember when

1224
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: the blind Man did that, right, and so it just

1225
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: keeps you in a great place. The blind Man was

1226
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: a monster. To that blind dude, he was a monster.

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01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: They might spin off and make him something he might

1228
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: have his own, because he was a monster blind dude.

1229
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert for people who haven't saw it, but a

1230
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: blind dude gave his eyes for his daughter back and

1231
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: so he was still one of the coldest dudes out

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: there though, with that fighting and that gun. And he

1233
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: would put these little um I was telling my kids

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01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: he had these little things where he would stick him

1235
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: on the wall because he can't see right, and so

1236
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: when he running from me, he get away from me,

1237
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: he put these things on the wall. The motion sensors,

1238
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,879
Speaker 1: but not in the way you're thinking that you're regular

1239
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: home motion sensors. That's why I said, I love that

1240
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: they kept it simple and it wasn't no double low

1241
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: seven level trip wild type that it was just one

1242
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: of them regular dollars stole ding dong when somebody passed

1243
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: it or somebody open the door or something, it's one

1244
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: of them regular ones. He had four five of them

1245
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: boom put it up. So as they came, he knew

1246
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: as they came, and he heard that to shoot when

1247
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: he heard that, because that mean that was man. It was.

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: It was just I appreciated that John Wick. I might

1249
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: actually watch all the John Wicks when I get some

1250
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: time for real. You know, every time I jump in

1251
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: a call with my children, I try to talk to

1252
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: them about stuff, you know, try to give him some game.

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: You know. I'm telling them about you know, even with Takashia.

1254
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling them because I know they know who that is.

1255
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: And I'm telling them, like, look what we gotta do

1256
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: is understand like if you could have got out of there,

1257
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: you need to get out of it. I'm telling them,

1258
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: ain't no honor and none of that right. And so

1259
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain that to him. And so we

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: headed to john Wick, and my youngest son, do know

1261
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: what John Wick is? My oldest son never had seen

1262
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: John Wick, but he's familiar with John Wick. And so

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm giving them the breakdown, you know, the dad is

1264
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 1: son breakdown. I'm coming through with the game. How John

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: Wick one of them guys. You know, I'm explaining into

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Speaker 1: them because I'm letting them know I respect john Wick.

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01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Handle now. He wanted the coldest dudes with that firearm.

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: So I'm telling them and John wickers one of them guys. Man,

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01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: well you've been seeing him on Fortnite. They'd be like,

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01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I'm saying, so John Wickers, and so

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: what we wanted to do is see whatever movie was

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: in fo d X because we liked that experience with

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01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 1: the moving and all of that. So john Wick happened

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01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: to be in that. So I'm explaining to him. Man,

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: john Wick his aim. He wanted them kind of dudes.

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: He got to kind of aim. Here. Shoot you in

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: your head. He can shoot you in your leg. He

1278
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: might hit you in your arm if you raise up.

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: He mightn't shoot your pink olf. You know, I'm telling

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: my kid, and I hear something about the back seat

1281
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: of the truck to say, can he shoot you in

1282
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: your testicles? Man? When I tell you I could have.

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: I was crying laughing. Man. My son said, can he

1284
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: shoot you in your testicles? And he was dead serious,

1285
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: but he thought testicles was tonsils, So he was like,

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: you know them them? What's some things that? See? I said, boy,

1287
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: that made me laugh. I probably ain't laugh like that

1288
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: ever in my life. See when you when you when

1289
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: you with your kids, it unlocks pathways a ship that

1290
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: you don't even know. A joke was down through there.

1291
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: You understand we're talking about John Well. I didn't even

1292
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: know what was gonna get no laughing out of none

1293
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: of that, you know, and so we laughed. Man, that

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: was that was so funny to me. He said, can't

1295
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: he shoot you in your testicles? Man? I'm talking about funding?

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01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: And as we went into the movies the way the

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: universe will work, because not only did I laugh at that,

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: of course I took the time to explain to him

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01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: the difference. So he had never made that mistake again,

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01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: and that snapshot he has of that interaction, he ain't

1301
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna never get that confused no more, because we that

1302
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna stick out in his memory. How much we laughed,

1303
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 1: and just that were funny. So when we got to

1304
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: the movie as as the universe being perfect. One of

1305
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: the guys who was actually trying to find John Wick

1306
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: had a dog with him and he would give him

1307
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: a command to go grab their testicles. And so I'm

1308
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: telling him any time, see that's them. And I'm trying

1309
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: to keep number one teaching them what it is. But

1310
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: number two just tripping off the fact that the fact

1311
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 1: that we couldn't even just laugh and shit like that.

1312
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people don't have get a

1313
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: chance to laugh. And I was listening to Kyrie. I

1314
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: was telling them, like because I cooked for them, and

1315
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: like I was telling them, no, dude, done never cook

1316
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: for me. Many me. Didn't never cook for me or

1317
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: take me do nothing right. So I take prying and

1318
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: all of those things. But I was listening to Kyrie

1319
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: saying he didn't have his mom. Look where he turned

1320
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: out to be. That dude didn't have nobody, he said,

1321
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: He said, nobody never took him nowhere, nobody took him

1322
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: to a game, came to a school, saying him out

1323
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: of school, never did nothing. He still made it. So

1324
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: the absence of isn't the definition of who you are, right,

1325
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: We got to always remember that but I do think

1326
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: that there's value in having those kind of relationships where

1327
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: you and your family could just trip out. Man, because

1328
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I ain't tripped out like I was crying.

1329
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: I was legit crime. Let's talk about Tyres. Tyres has

1330
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: been on interviews over the last couple of weeks, and

1331
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: again I'm speaking about these things because I believe relationships

1332
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: are hard to navigate and we all have something to

1333
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: offer in regards to the conversation. When I look at

1334
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: thy Reason, I see him prancing around doing these interviews.

1335
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: I'm concerned with his relationship with his current partner. Right,

1336
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: you can't develop a strong foundation on shaky grounds. And

1337
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: if you ain't heal nine times out of ten, it

1338
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: ain't healed it right, And he's just a universal laws.

1339
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: This ain't got nothing to do with nothing, color, nothing.

1340
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: This just universal laws. In effect, the question still remains,

1341
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,480
Speaker 1: will you allow your partner to heal in the process

1342
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: of your relationship. I think it may be uncomfortable for

1343
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: people that may be a weird place, but this may

1344
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: be the only opportunity you got to get somebody like

1345
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: this when they damned there down and now you may

1346
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: cain't never sneak in here and get this kind of guy.

1347
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: You may not have another chance, but because you stayed by,

1348
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you stuck with and maybe there's some lord

1349
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: to there. Some people bank on that. It's like, yo,

1350
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's weird for me to be

1351
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: loving on someone giving them all like God. But what

1352
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: I can't allow people to do, right is, in the

1353
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: name of love, bring their history into our future, whatever

1354
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: that may be. Because you're getting a situation where I've

1355
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: been led to believe that that's in your past, but

1356
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: the way you speak when you're in public is that

1357
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: that's your present. And I'm dealing with you in private

1358
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: like that's that's in your pays, but in public you

1359
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: feel like that's in your present and your future. It's

1360
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: damn near like you summon him that person to come back,

1361
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's uncomfortable. Let's look at Tyrese

1362
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: on this particular interview and then we have another video

1363
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: to look at. So you don't think she ever loved you.

1364
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't think she ever loved me, because if she did,

1365
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that easy to leave. Yeah, my ex

1366
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: wife now file for divorce and don't love me enough

1367
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: to explain to me why I got a one year

1368
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: old who's now being raised under two different routs when

1369
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: my whole goal was to break that generational curse. I'm

1370
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: in a new relationship. I've been with my girl now

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01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 1: for two years and she's incredible. She's sweet, she's kind,

1372
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: probably the most patient and nurturing. I was gonna ask you,

1373
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: have you healed? No, but I'm I haven't healed like

1374
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: all the way. So when I single first, that's not

1375
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: my choice. Elaborate what do you mean? Well, it's not

1376
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,520
Speaker 1: meant for everybody to be alone after a painful, depressing

1377
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: break up. I'll be honest. I think this is extremely

1378
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: important because I believe love lives in uncertainty right in

1379
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: the mountain or the hill, right, the avenue of the

1380
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: street that love lives on is shaky grounds, right, it's

1381
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: muddy waters. Everybody wants to believe we leave with so

1382
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: much certainty, But far too many times I've saw people

1383
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: wake up at the twenty years and just say, you

1384
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: know what, I'm done with this for whatever reason. Not

1385
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: saying they ain't have a reason or they should have

1386
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: stuck it out. Then ain't my business? Because I plan

1387
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: on staying out of situations that keep me involved with

1388
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: things that's uncertain on that level, especially when my finances

1389
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: and family and feelings is attached to it. I just

1390
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: ain't seeing myself go down that road again. Here's the thing,

1391
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: ain't though, you know, as I'm just trying to think

1392
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: about this, The question is what takes it from like

1393
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: to love? Right? As a relationship, what takes it from

1394
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 1: life to love? Usually it's just an agreement, right, my

1395
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: feelings are gonna get strong, or whether we agree to

1396
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: be together, not based on our interactions and how much

1397
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: time and we spend with each other and things of

1398
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: that nature. But it's almost like that agreement. It's supposed

1399
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: to provide certainty, right, It's like, yo, we are not exclusive,

1400
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: and that's supposed to provide you certainty. Now, how we're exclusive?

1401
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: If it don't feel like you got room to really

1402
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 1: love me, I don't care how smart you are. Everybody

1403
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: only has a certain amount of space, a certain amount

1404
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: of things they can think about in a certain amount

1405
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: of room. So how can you have room to love

1406
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: me when you have not got over the things that

1407
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: you poured into Feeling is one thing, but love, feeling

1408
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: is a whole different thing. Well, when you feel that love,

1409
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: you get more to love than anything I'm telling about love,

1410
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: not like, not lust. Love, You get more to that

1411
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 1: than anything. Get a drain your batter all the way

1412
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: down feeling when you thought you was in love or

1413
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 1: made a commitment or man, this is it gets rough.

1414
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: So I don't see how people can operate in that

1415
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: great area when all we got is telling each other

1416
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: I love you more than everybody. I don't see nobody

1417
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: else but you. I don't wan't nobody else but you.

1418
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,799
Speaker 1: That's all we got because I ain't chasing you around

1419
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: and tracking your car. That's how we got is that agreement.

1420
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,879
Speaker 1: And then you go off and I pull up an interview,

1421
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: and then you saying that what she didn't want to

1422
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 1: come back? And you know, I don't never think she

1423
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: loved me. What you're gonna hear me say whenever I

1424
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: find somebody else, whatever was in my past deserves to

1425
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: be in my past. Those that can't be real with

1426
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: me have nothing to worry about, and fred not. But

1427
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: those of you that's been in my way, I can

1428
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: guarantee you that you're gonna be in a position that

1429
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: had to watch your shine. But I'm not doing no

1430
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: chasing nobody around and trying to figure out each they're cheating,

1431
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: what they're doing. We're not doing none of that. Were

1432
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: laying back and remaining pete. And the minute I feel

1433
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: like you didn't put another jers on, yeah, I'm putting

1434
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: in the trade request. I'm trying to see what the

1435
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: market value is on this. And if it ain't no

1436
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: market value for I just cut the contract. Now I'm

1437
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: one of them. Now I just cut your contract. I

1438
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 1: just chalked the losses. And so the next clip that

1439
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna see with tyres is so important because we're

1440
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: gonna see a conversation with his current girlfriend. Then you

1441
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: ask yourself what is she gonna say and what this

1442
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: is about? But I believe with ty Reese being so

1443
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: forthcoming with information about steal damn near being in love

1444
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: and having somebody on this side, it's almost like it

1445
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 1: can almost feel like I wish this was you, Like

1446
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: you got people that's real insecure about hearing about your pay.

1447
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: That's why most girls are bringing it up if they

1448
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: date somebody that's high power, and then you trying to

1449
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: fiddle in how usually day celebrities. I usually day dude,

1450
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: the gab my, why you ain't got down? Now you

1451
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: didn't drop down? Then ain't it? But see, dude don't

1452
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: know how to play the game. They using y'all against

1453
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,839
Speaker 1: each other. Then you drawing hate for a dude because shouted,

1454
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: and she just do it when she get mad. You

1455
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be dealing with nobody that's companion you in

1456
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: that way. You know what I'm saying. That's uncomfortable for dudes,

1457
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, but get you some money. Stay out of that,

1458
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: you know, stay out of that. Tyreech's current girlfriend had

1459
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: a conversation online what ty Reech was there? She spoke

1460
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: to a few things. I think the conversation is truly

1461
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to watch, but I can't blame her for coming

1462
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: out to try to put a little egg on his face.

1463
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: At the she didn't head out this egg on her face.

1464
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Let's pay attention. Tom only asked questions, how do we

1465
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: meet Slidter the dms we make doc? He wasn't my

1466
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: type at all. My type is actually Paul Walker recipes.

1467
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: But he wasn't my type at all, and my type

1468
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: is not white and just saying I was more interested

1469
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: in me and everything period. Don't touch me. Um. And

1470
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: even when I met him, I was like, he's kind

1471
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: of old. Uh I just like his smile was pretty cool. Personality,

1472
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: his personality just went really bad really fast. His personality

1473
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: was okay, but I'm getting off. He didn't understand the

1474
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: Instagram model, um things, so he would always talk down.

1475
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: So you wanted he didn't want me? Yeah? All right?

1476
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: So and he was said, I wanted the home he

1477
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: and to study execute you said, I'm old. You know

1478
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: all this already. I wasn't here to type either, so

1479
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: relax and yeah. So now we're here. It's like an

1480
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 1: actual someone who love story, which is crazy because I

1481
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: didn't know that I am. Yeah, yeah, I'm done. No, no,

1482
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: don't trust me. Who responsible for all these holes in

1483
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: the street? You? Yes? Okay, So Rob Benson, why adn't

1484
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:31,879
Speaker 1: you fired? Why don't you fire? Then? Round of applause

1485
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: for her, round of applause for being able to show

1486
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: on your man while you roll upon him. You gotta

1487
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 1: have a certain kind of power to do that. But

1488
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: but in all seriousness, though I believe she's been operating

1489
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: with egg on her face. Everybody's human. Nobody wants to

1490
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: be humiliated or in bad or she had never said

1491
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: nothing in public like that, if that's her true feelings,

1492
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: if he knew that, right, But he's been saying some

1493
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 1: things in public that's been wild. Now do I believe

1494
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: that was intentional or do I believe that was the truth.

1495
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, But I am interested in how I

1496
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: urs into a love story when two people seem that

1497
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't have the room for each other. I guess that's

1498
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: I guess that's how it works. I mean, I guess

1499
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: that's a real thing. If it wasn't financially beneficial, though,

1500
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: how interested would this be? Like if ty Reach worked

1501
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: at walmarting he was up there telling the supervising them

1502
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: how much he missed his wife, and his wife left

1503
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: him with the kids, and when she dropped the child

1504
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: off on the week end, he looking out the palm

1505
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: in wonder like she probably wouldn't have went for that,

1506
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, But he in a mansion in his office,

1507
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: and he making assert right, he gotta be some financial

1508
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying stability is attractive. Let's put it that way.

1509
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: And that's if it's just intentional. They want to hurt

1510
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: his feelings, then the second side of me said with

1511
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: damn loom, what if she don't love What if this

1512
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: new girl felt like, hey, yo, I don't love him.

1513
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm with him, I like him. We cool, but I

1514
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: don't really love him. I don't got room to love

1515
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: him because he don't have room to love me. I

1516
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: wonder can people feel that like you can feel like

1517
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: you ain't loving on me. It's cool, but you ain't

1518
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: loving on me. We together, but you ain't loving on

1519
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: me though, Because in my mind, I'm saying, ain't no

1520
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: way she loved you. Seeing you love somebody else. I

1521
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: don't think it unlocks a woman full potential to see

1522
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: you in love with somebody else. I don't think she

1523
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: can unlock her full potential. It don't have nothing to

1524
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 1: do with sex. I believe her full potential is in prison.

1525
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: It's incarcerated when she see that you still have that

1526
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 1: open wound for another woman that possibly can be healed

1527
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: by her touch. So now I put myself at risk

1528
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: or at jeopardy coming over that loving on you and

1529
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: just wide open when you might go back left and

1530
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: leave me with it on my face. So now I

1531
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: come on live and say yo, I wanted to do

1532
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to go with the homeboy somebody who did so,

1533
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: if he was here right now, you wouldn't be here.

1534
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: And basically that's the same thing he's saying to heart.

1535
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: If she would act right, you wouldn't be here. She

1536
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: didn't ask for this, you know. It's like it's a

1537
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: weird thing, and it's almost like they're playing this weird

1538
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: thing with each other. And for me, Tyrese has to

1539
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: know when people get down with you, they're gonna do

1540
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: interviews and books and whatever they need to do. However,

1541
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: they can capitalize on the on the involvement, you know.

1542
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: So if you if you're playing this little weird game,

1543
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful with that. Having me on live

1544
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: to my audience and telling them people that you really

1545
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: wanted to go with the homeboy, that's a fireball of

1546
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: fence for me. I'm tom I'm gonna keep it, ps

1547
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: peek and keep it. That's a fireball of fence, you know,

1548
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: because that's flamable what you're doing. You know, I called

1549
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: stuff flamable that can maybe cause the problem, Like ao,

1550
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: he flamable. Look, maybe that's flamable over there. So that's

1551
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 1: what he doing, That's that's what she doing. That's flamable,

1552
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: like it can start a real problem. And then I

1553
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know where you rest that what got you over here?

1554
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: And then if you like him and we two totally

1555
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: different size of the spectrum, you'd like anything or what

1556
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: you like? What like you? You like me? I see

1557
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: my quote that I said a long time ago, back

1558
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: going viral. You know, I always tell women, I tell people,

1559
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: we don't got to talk about money. We don't got

1560
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: to talk about me taking care of you. We won't

1561
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: got to talk about me providing you nothing, because your

1562
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 1: actions are put you in my budget. But the same

1563
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: way your actions are put you when my budget. Your

1564
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 1: actions will take you out of my budget, But when

1565
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: your axes take you out of my budget, it also

1566
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: take you out of my future the same way. If

1567
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: it puts you in my budget, yeah, it puts you

1568
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: in my future. The way a woman acts, it's almost

1569
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: like in my opinion or my experience, or the way

1570
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 1: that I like to ride and move. It's like, yo,

1571
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: you're responsible for how this goal because how you treat me,

1572
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna treat you. You know, you come at me

1573
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: on some money, and I'm gonna hangd you some money.

1574
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna deal with you like I hant you

1575
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: some money. You come at me with you trying to,

1576
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, mess with me on some genuine, and I'm

1577
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,480
Speaker 1: gonna hit you with some genuine. Then we're gonna do genuine,

1578
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 1: just whichever way you want to roll. And I'm diverse.

1579
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I know how to maneuver. You know, I've been on

1580
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: every side of this spectrum, so I know how to

1581
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 1: maneuver as far as this coach is concerned. You know,

1582
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm traveling man. I'm a well read man, so I

1583
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: can handle a conversation and a encounter. You know I can.

1584
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: I can. I can read the room. I got that

1585
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: special ability, so I ain't handicapped in that area. I

1586
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: feel swell, not well, I feel swell in that area.

1587
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: You understand me, So now I don't. I don't feel

1588
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,799
Speaker 1: threatened by nobody running whatever game they're running. I'm prepared.

1589
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing I ain't seen, ain't no defense I ain't

1590
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: seen out here on this field. But I always remember

1591
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: that your actions put you in my budget. They ain't

1592
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: take you out of my budget. And you know if

1593
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: you provide things to my life that I feel as

1594
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: though you yeah putting you right in up. Yeah, ain't

1595
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: even nothing to talk about. You go, yeah, you see

1596
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that if you yeah, so it is

1597
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: what it is. You gotta understand the difference. Let's talk

1598
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: about this and then we'll get out of here. Tex

1599
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Stone and Troy Ale, for those of you underwell, podcast

1600
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: to tex Stone was charged with a murder and attempted

1601
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: murder I believe for Troy aving his free banger RP

1602
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: banger free tex Stone. This situation got ugly. It was

1603
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: a situation where online they went back and forth for

1604
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 1: a number years. Tex Stone were pushing the mean line

1605
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: because clearly he didn't believe Troyale Troy eving them. They

1606
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: ran into each other somewhere at a TI concert. They've

1607
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: seen each other. Someone end up dead, Troy av end

1608
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 1: up getting charged and seen. We're gonna look at a

1609
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: couple of videos. Now we're to a point where that

1610
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: trial is now in court and it's been finalized and

1611
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: they have convicted text one of man slaughter and another charge.

1612
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: But let's take a look at this video from that

1613
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: night of that altercation, just to refresh you guys memory,

1614
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: because again, I don't know when people will be catching

1615
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: this let's take a look. I told hid, I said,

1616
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: look at this. You don't see him, look at them.

1617
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: Gotta be like thinking too much, gotta be like dam

1618
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: dash and just surround yourself with women. Yeah, I'd rather

1619
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: do that. Real, I'd rather be a woman because I

1620
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: could protect myself as a man. So I'm not thinking

1621
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 1: about rolling with six goons and all. That's how I'll

1622
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: be telling people you failed before you even think you

1623
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: won with me, because you're thinking you're walking up with

1624
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: six dudes. Is gonna do something to me? When I

1625
01:33:49,880 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 1: see you walking up with six dudes. Wang ya gonna bogu, y'all.

1626
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I ain't with it. I ain't with all that. Six

1627
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 1: dudes walking up trying to have a conversation with me

1628
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 1: by nothing. They have a big black ugly like they

1629
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 1: really think, No, that's for that's pussy. They see mufflers

1630
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: walking up and they'd be like and let them walk up.

1631
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: But I peep you. I'm let you know. I'm gonna

1632
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: look right at you. What's up? You good? Before you

1633
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: get up on me? Are you good? Let me know

1634
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: now before you even walking in square because we're not

1635
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: doing that. That's why I'd be laughing at rappers, rappers,

1636
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't care about ya. I'm gonna tell you try me.

1637
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: I want. I want the rappers to try me I do.

1638
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I want you to try me.

1639
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: Try me. Your shooter, the toughest squaw that just came home.

1640
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: So I'm trying me. I want embarrass somebody. I do.

1641
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: I want embarrass somebody. I do. I want embarrassing muscles.

1642
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 1: Why because I hate these mothers, because you know why.

1643
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: They just snatched Slim Jesus mic on stage and Slim

1644
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: Jesus said, Yo, I'm not like that. I'm just rapping

1645
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: like this because this type of like rapper, like you

1646
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. The muff shoes to walk up

1647
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: on stage and slap send Slim Jesus, Mike, and don't

1648
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 1: snap other people shit, snatch somebody else, Mike. You notice

1649
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: up there in front and Slim Jesus like the first

1650
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 1: front and rapper muffs appalled. You know, it's crazy about

1651
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: the white people's appauled, Like, Yo, how do you feel

1652
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 1: about this? You gotta think this was early on and

1653
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: Text was talking like this his podcasting days. Man, he

1654
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: was he was in a little bag got look like

1655
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: saying something Slim Jesus, leave Slim Jesus the alone. That's

1656
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: some cowuch. I don't like that. You didn't do that

1657
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: to this little black purple neck who gotta beat on

1658
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: with a mac and fucking extended clip and don't even

1659
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 1: know how to clean that. This man to it or

1660
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: put that? What the that's me. I don't like that man.

1661
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: And that's how I keep telling you how bully bullies.

1662
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: And that's why I started bullying Troy av You know

1663
01:35:55,479 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, I was saying, yo, well here,

1664
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I just want to ask this an emotional man. Right here.

1665
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 1: You have a guy in a right trying to evade

1666
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: the action. That guy is taxed me. Then you see

1667
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: him trying to find a cement beside the guy in

1668
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: the green You can also hear the woman shouting up, boy.

1669
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: There was a lot going on. Boy. So that was

1670
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: in a green room at the Irving Plaza, which is

1671
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: an event arena or something up in New York, and

1672
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: I guess an altercation popped off with that video. You

1673
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: see how much commotion it was. Troy ab then went

1674
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: on a press room before he went to trial and

1675
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: was explaining his stance let's take a look at just

1676
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of that Maino was there and get there.

1677
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: They didn't helped me pick up being a body it

1678
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: woke past shout out the eighty eighty. The only nigga

1679
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 1: that pick him up like I'm picking him up, like

1680
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: you know what it is to carry a dead body.

1681
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: That's different. Really, you see it, may osgoom and you're

1682
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: not there running away leaving after you just finished blowing that.

1683
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: You're blowing that and you still live cut like man,

1684
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving my man, I'm not running off like

1685
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: a count. I'm getting out of here. I just shot.

1686
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Is there when your lloyds yat different type of love?

1687
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: You feel me? So that's what I'm here doing. None

1688
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: of the blocked, only to help. And so I had

1689
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: to go through that. So that didn't that hit me different.

1690
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: I had to go to jail right after. I had

1691
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: to get blamed for his death. I had to with

1692
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: a murder charge over me for my men that I

1693
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 1: didn't do. You feel me? I had to be with

1694
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 1: an attempted murder on a hater. I'm attempted murder on

1695
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: it the gun from that shot. You know what I'm saying?

1696
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: TROYEV took the stand, and you know where we're from.

1697
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: Taking the stand as a no no. He cited a

1698
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: couple of reasons why he took the stand there, and

1699
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, this is a complex situation. But

1700
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: I also think why I fein Lucas situation is complex

1701
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: and we've just seen he didn't do nothing. You know,

1702
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: seem like you know, some people just they like, yo,

1703
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 1: we signed up for certain things. And I know when

1704
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: the casual is involved, it unlocks your emotions, but sometimes

1705
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: the rules still apply. You know. That's for these guys

1706
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 1: to understand which where they're going on this life? Are there?

1707
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 1: So Troy Iff gets understand and you know, it's seen

1708
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: shock waves through the coach because people are like, yo,

1709
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: we don't we don't second that. It ain't cool. You

1710
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 1: can't get understand point blank period. There's a guy outside

1711
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: of the court room talking about it and a fight

1712
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: almost breaks out. Let's look, um, this is about the

1713
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: thing I would say, day I'm sorry, yeah, day Um,

1714
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: we just saw Troy I take this stand. Any thoughts, Yeah,

1715
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts. One. I wanted to

1716
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: be perfectly clear that Troy ad was never charged with

1717
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 1: the murder of anyone. According to what they said, he

1718
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: was charge with him court. He was charged with two

1719
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: guns possessions. Troy y'all would have only got five years.

1720
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: He's cooperating so he don't have to go to prison,

1721
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 1: and he's up there lying at that so he's he's

1722
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: just as viol as anybody because he's telling them a

1723
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: fixed story. It's a lying. And I also want to

1724
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: make it purposely clear. You better chill you better chill

1725
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 1: you talking about I'm bringing you fixed? You done? That's

1726
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: your will. Boy, I know you pussy. You know me too. No,

1727
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: you don't know me. If I don't know, you don't

1728
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: know me. The head, your face, I take it off,

1729
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: let's go pick it off. Looking boy, your mom drissing

1730
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: like you look like a boarding Keep that ship going,

1731
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: like I said. Man lit up there lying lying. You

1732
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: know he's lying, and that's the facts. How was he lying? Though?

1733
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 1: There's one He telling the whole story about fictitious and stupids,

1734
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 1: swipping and falling with the guns he doing on the Actually,

1735
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: that's how you know that, Fabrican. You can't do what

1736
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: he's saying. He said. He the mother described it as

1737
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 1: a violence spooning kind of weirdos that man's hand. It's

1738
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: not lighting me. I'm throwing that. Why they get the

1739
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: thing you go home on that can't? I don't know me, boy.

1740
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: So there's both sides of defense meeting out there. One

1741
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: of them people saying he lying, one of them saying

1742
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,719
Speaker 1: he ain't. I think that was the dude that died

1743
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: Banger brother that was out there on his behead probably

1744
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 1: and dude with telling him me a break his job

1745
01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: and all of that. I don't know. With texts with

1746
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: Troy getting on the stand though, I said, man, if

1747
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: he was a superstar rapper, I don't think he would

1748
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: have done that. I believe Troy eb looked at his career.

1749
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: He understood that I can leverage this thirty met and

1750
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: I can get from Live Nation about suing them, and

1751
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: he traded it. I believe if he was a superstar rabber,

1752
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: like getting a whole bunch of money out wrapped in

1753
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: his credibility and now all that, I don't think he

1754
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: would have done that. I think he really sat back

1755
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: one day and said, man, I can sue Live Nation

1756
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: for thirty meets, you know, so I'm gonna just trade

1757
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: that in I'm gonna go testify and say this and that.

1758
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: You know. Um my thing was right after that he

1759
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: did a video. Well he was on the court steps.

1760
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 1: I wonder how to feeds and people looking at that

1761
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: up Belle, it kind of weird. Let's take a look

1762
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 1: at it. Really took a letter to the judge. Really

1763
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 1: is implicated that it really snitched on that man lud

1764
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 1: the letter to the judge saying Troy adds a bad guy.

1765
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't deserve to get the shot. Told you you

1766
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: told letter. Ain't I mean it's friends, ain't here. I'm

1767
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: going in a lot of things. Ain't let me out

1768
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 1: of jail. Since you nigga's like right and let us

1769
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: heggo one he d I want, I'm gonna bug you

1770
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: bump sucking dis till he comes sence you nigga's like right,

1771
01:43:55,280 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: let us heggo one. I want. I'm sticking night done.

1772
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Since you niggas like bright, let us now mostly your niggas.

1773
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: So for those of you that's not looking, he has

1774
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: all kinds of footage from like what happened, and I

1775
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: just find it inter he's on the court steps in

1776
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: the same outfit. I don't know when he done this

1777
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 1: maybe early in the morning, but it seemed kind of

1778
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 1: crazy that they're letting that go. It seemed crazy that

1779
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 1: he got the kind of nuts to drop something like

1780
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: it after getting on the stand. But I think he

1781
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: justified it in his brain flying to take I stack

1782
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: kind of take the murder because I took the gun

1783
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 1: from him and back because ain't no made up racks.

1784
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing the facts. I'm the king of the underground,

1785
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 1: just the underground brack. I rose up above the Buddhist.

1786
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: They're trying to pull your boy back. But the coach

1787
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: show then from you know, a lot of people to

1788
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: say it's like he had a good highlight dunk in

1789
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 1: the game, but he lost the game, you know what

1790
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he didn't follow through because he would have.

1791
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 1: He was on some He could have went down and

1792
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 1: and and told his story like he was Superman if

1793
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 1: he crashed it out at the end. Like at the

1794
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: most people, it's like, yo, dude, came in there, we

1795
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: had problems. Allegedly something happened. I got a gun. I'm

1796
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: shooting in the club at somebody. But that last party

1797
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: put on it. I think that that might that might

1798
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 1: smear it up a little bit for the vast majority

1799
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 1: of people. That's my opinion, you know. But next week

1800
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: we'll take a look at a few things. Man. We

1801
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: might we may revisit this. We still got more. I

1802
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: just got too much going on, and I got some

1803
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: big episodes about to drop. Y'all be prepared. Subscribe to

1804
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: the Patron to see the video. It's up that podcast,

1805
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Speaker 1: the biggest show in history. That's go