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Speaker 1: And this Drink Chess motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper.

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Speaker 1: He ain't Segre your boy in no R. He's a

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Speaker 1: Miami hippop and Mioneerup is d j e FN. Together

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Speaker 1: they drinking up with some of the biggest players in

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Speaker 1: the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source

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Speaker 1: for drunk back drink chess, motherfucking days. New Year's Eves,

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Speaker 1: Time for drink champs. Trick up, motherfuck mother? What a

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Speaker 1: good holding with the super ship boy you know R?

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Speaker 1: What up is d J e F and this is

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Speaker 1: drink Chess, motherfucker? Y'all y'all make some Now I have

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Speaker 1: two of the most infamous people I know together. He

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Speaker 1: went straight to the infamous. We got allegedly, allegedly the

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Speaker 1: guy who we heard used to take the jewels, and

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Speaker 1: then we got the guy who gives the jews, which

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Speaker 1: we don't know which one is. I think I take him.

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Speaker 1: We don't know which one is which. Let me just

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Speaker 1: say something. I want to bake this brother up to

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Speaker 1: the enough for me. Uh Big Sean, one of the

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Speaker 1: Little Sean, but he's on your neck like Little Sean.

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Speaker 1: And he was one of the most relentnous dudes out there.

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn phenomenal. Did not tell not once. He could have

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Speaker 1: told a lot, he did not tell not once. We

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Speaker 1: have to respect that stood up. Have stories to Tupac

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Speaker 1: has stories were big and have stories all the funk around.

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Speaker 1: And now he's he's a positive brother. Like in my mind,

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Speaker 1: he's my trainer. In my mind, I got to be

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Speaker 1: the next brother that's standing to me now. He was

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Speaker 1: they're all related, all the Julie guy niggers, they all related.

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Speaker 1: They're all like brothers, cousins, sisters, cousins, real ship. He

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Speaker 1: was the little guy and I'm gonna tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him for Rall's concert in Philadelphia, and he

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Speaker 1: looked at my old jury he said, I gotta make

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Speaker 1: you right, and I did, so let's make your noise.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to I want to start with

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Speaker 1: both of you brothers right because We're both from New

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Speaker 1: York City, and you have like, I can't front your

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Speaker 1: waves to spend. Can you see him? No, I can

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Speaker 1: see him. Bro your waves just fucking me up right now.

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Speaker 1: Be honest, my dude, that's like some off norf ship

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Speaker 1: right there. I went to both. Okay, but I gotta

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Speaker 1: the chase. Your name is Little Sean in Brooklyn. You're

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Speaker 1: the big homie. When you heard of a guy named

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Speaker 1: Big Sean, did you ever take it personal? Let's cut

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Speaker 1: straight to the fucking point. Nah, because nah, do you

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Speaker 1: know what Angie Angie Martinez asked him on the edge

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Speaker 1: about that if he ever heard of me, and he

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Speaker 1: was like nah. She was like, oh nah, say that's

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Speaker 1: why I said, you gotta meet this guy. And you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, right when we came up in the game,

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Speaker 1: The biggest part was you say we did our homework

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Speaker 1: all the words to the new ship more than my

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Speaker 1: if you listen to it, and it don't mean nothing

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Speaker 1: He wasn't outside. That wasn't that not for you? So

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Speaker 1: it from that. What kind of ring is that? Hold on,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna not your ring. Your ring, just your

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Speaker 1: holder we see old, my god, everyone, this this is

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Speaker 1: So you see how you're saying that. So that was

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Speaker 1: he just said I love that late eighties. What years

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Speaker 1: to that car. So I drive to claver between Fulton

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Speaker 1: How do you get in the circle? You just like?

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Speaker 1: But just from about my car to now is that

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Speaker 1: So that's what he's So when I met Puff, I'm

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Speaker 1: And you were an artist. It sounds like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: you didn't know Biggie. He's the babies. I knew On

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Speaker 1: so every neighborhood like wise, every neighborhood got their big

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Speaker 1: So when Biggie met Puff and Big got on, On

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Speaker 1: like nah, I said red accurate. He's like, oh, Ship,

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Speaker 1: what's your I'm like yeah, because I always had one

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Speaker 1: bad boy, so that's why he had all these million

420
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: dollar baseball members, like when Joe Dimagio. Yeah, he was

421
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: a bad boy for himselves. That's why he had a

422
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: get to you. So when you go up there, you

423
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: can see anybody from Robert de Niro to Sean Penn

424
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: and then all the rappers. So now I go up

425
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: there once a week to pick up my allowance from

426
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: the bookkeeper. Right, you know how go and me and

427
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Bert was cool. And I get there and I see

428
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: every being rock him. So I'm like, oh ship right

429
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: for me, I don't listen when it comes to music,

430
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: and l was my favorite. So going into the game

431
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: and you actually see eating these people, I'm still fucked up. Yeah,

432
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: So when I saw Eric b for the first time.

433
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, what's up man, every goddamn put

434
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: up my nigga? Did he show you love or like,

435
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, like the really, I'm like, yeah, everybody's like

436
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: that to this day. But so his strength in the

437
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: street was supreme magnetic. And let's be let's be clear,

438
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: let's be clear. Hold one from four Green, porter Reeki

439
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: supreme so gaus praying for Quiz like my brother, that's

440
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: my brother. But I met Puerto Ricans praying from four Green.

441
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: My cousins used to live in Farragan, So I would

442
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: go to four Green and I would see this little guy.

443
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: He's Puerto Rican p Ninka was so short and he

444
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: had the sucking hold projects like I would let you describe.

445
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: So I knew them from schooter schools like you of course.

446
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: So when I would see Eric, I already knew that,

447
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: but I funk that I'm looking at the rats, you know,

448
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: like this is fucking every bit. And I was so

449
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: excited and happy and ship is dude, and he shipped

450
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: on me. And I ain't like that, you know that, right,

451
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: because listen, it's the type of guy here use for me.

452
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't about nothing tough. It wasn't about street ship.

453
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: It was about it was a street I was fucked

454
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: up by that. I ain't like that. And I'm like, damn,

455
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm showing this dude some love and he's shutting on me,

456
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: like funk this dude, And I'm not spoken. I just don't.

457
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: Just the first interview I've ever done that. I don't

458
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: talk with people. Kim was there too or not. So

459
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: now I get my money, I'll leave, and I got

460
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: my little man in the call, and I'm like, Yo,

461
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: this motherfucking do Eric ship him this dude? Right? Cool?

462
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: Eric's like that to me to this day. Next time

463
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: I've seen it, he did the same thing, and I'm like, yo,

464
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: just do that. So now I don't like him, like

465
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: all the rat fun him being with Rock Kimball, I

466
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: don't just do it right. So I go to Burpon Dell,

467
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: I go to pick up I think I was grabbing

468
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: like eighteen grand this day to go shopping out there.

469
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: Rich basically it's the boss. But so it was a

470
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Jamaican bookkeeper that Bert had me assigned to. Her name

471
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: is Carol Kiddo. And when you go in the back,

472
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: it's like like just bookkeepers everywhere, and it's like aisles.

473
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: So Eric b Supreme, Bill Blast God rested dead uh um.

474
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: All these guys col Gi wrapped and they were like

475
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: at the mouth of her her aisle. So I walk

476
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: in and I look, I see Eric. I'm already turned off.

477
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I speak to Preme. I'm like without kids, and to me,

478
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm like making So I'm like, damn, like, wouldn't you

479
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: know when you see that? I know your man, Like,

480
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't that you know what I'm saying. Cool. So I

481
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: go to get my money from her and I'm counting

482
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: it out and she's like, you know, showing be careful

483
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: because that's a lot of money and you know, and

484
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm like why. She's like, you know those guys and

485
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yrol, I'm like She's like, oh, gay, yeah,

486
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: because old body knew me for that and when you

487
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: always was dressed up like a Jamaican and we wore

488
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: silk shirts, hard bottoms. So that's how I walked in

489
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the rap game and my diamonds and I'm leaving and

490
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: I spoke to everybody and I just looked at Eric

491
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: like funk that rap ship right yo? I left there.

492
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I stopped to see Andre uptown and then I went

493
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: to Asta and Broil Away to buy some sneakers. I

494
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: pulled up and parked, got out the car. There's a

495
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: red light there. I looked and Eric b had this

496
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: ugly fucking white path finder get it out, and I

497
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: looked at He's at the light. I'm like, this motherfucker's stalking.

498
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: He's at the light and he's looking like screw facing again.

499
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, dude, I'm gonna kill you. It's not

500
00:32:52,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: like a sick right, but it's true. Nobody's going to

501
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: say this on camera on the mic if it's not true,

502
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: because you could go back to the person. He's still alive.

503
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: In my mind, I hated me, like fuck that, Eric Ben,

504
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: rock him ship right, that's it. God, yeah, because when

505
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you go show people like you man, right, He's not

506
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: the only one I cursed off. You know what I'm saying.

507
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: Because you're going to show somebody some love and they

508
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: shoot like, dude, I'll pop in tops like I'm really

509
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: But if you're looking at me and you're going he's

510
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna get chest. Fuck this dude, because you're listening to lyrics,

511
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, Right, I leave there. I go to

512
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: this lady's house. She was ten years older than me.

513
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: I was working with at the time. She grew up

514
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: with Russell and I walked in. So you remember after

515
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: Ricky got shot on Boys in the Hood and went

516
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: in Nia Long's crib and he would swing in that.

517
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: So I walked and I was mad. I was looking, yeah,

518
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: that's kind of kill us. And she's listening to me

519
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: and she's not saying up and she's like every I'm like, yeah,

520
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: this motherfuck every time I'm seeing me school facing me,

521
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm a killer. Right. He just broke up with her.

522
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my god, kill my. I was. I

523
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: was not ready for that one. So now I know

524
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: what it's about. Oh no, no, even though you just

525
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: said it, I didn't did that. I didn't get into Yeah,

526
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: she said it like that. I just got okay. So

527
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: after that it is a trump. Don't even like why.

528
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, how would he know anything about me? But

529
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: she had a friend from Texas named Kat who was

530
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: still cool with this dude, and she told him, oh

531
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: my god, so he just didn't like me. I'm like,

532
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I fuck it, you know, damn, that's what it's about.

533
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: I feel better because it ain't nothing serious to me.

534
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: But now from now on, it's fuck you. So after

535
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: that time, I just didn't funk with him. But you know,

536
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: and uh, it was these guys from Queens that special

537
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Lett hooked up with going to come on the podcast. Yeah,

538
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: that's just I think he listened to the area too. Man,

539
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: we gotta get him through, right. Yeah, So that's the

540
00:35:51,840 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: funniest should have never asked, actually, was you it? He's like, so, uh,

541
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: from that day on, I ain't funk with the dude, right,

542
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: So now you know, he's hanging around and he sees

543
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: that we have a lot of people in common. So Chris, Lie,

544
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: God blessed the dad that was one of my closest friends.

545
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know because you know, we

546
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: just weren't in from the camera, but Chris, I call

547
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: him now and Chris and doing anything for me. So

548
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: they had a restaurant on Avenue A and like Houston Mecca. Yeah,

549
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: let's get it. So take the take the logos off

550
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: because me and Pap is cool. So take the logos, dude,

551
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean feeding the purpose by saying that. So I

552
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: get to the party and Chris is leaving in the

553
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: Hervey and I'm like, yeah, I'm just kidding it. Where

554
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: you go? When he's somebody's fucking bees back there, I'm

555
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: like okay, and he's like I'm leaving. I said, nah,

556
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: come back in. You wouldn't. So I drag him in

557
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: and I get to the back and Eric is with

558
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: He's with my niggas, and I'm like, damn, this dude's

559
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: like a stray animal. Like. So when I get back there,

560
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: he's with them, and he just stops what he's doing

561
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: it he sees Chris and he's just like and I'm

562
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: looking at Chris. They had him. I don't know what

563
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Eric's problem was with Chris, but now Chris is with

564
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: me and I don't like him. So I look at

565
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: the dudes that he's with. Who's my guys. I'm like,

566
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Y'll tell your man stop looking at Chris like that.

567
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I won't dge anyway, right, I mean to this day,

568
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: like we just you know, so years past, I go

569
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: to jail, I come home. Eric is around again. I'm right,

570
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm looking the story all of my niggas.

571
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: It's Muslim, So I'm like, what is Haaren doing? Is

572
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Eric's Muslnice took a shot. I'm like, really cool. I

573
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: don't funk with the dude. I just I'm not gonna

574
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: forget that because he wasn't a nice guy. I'm a

575
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: nice guy, right if you, I'm gonna give you the

576
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: same minute and you give me right you speak to

577
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: me nice, and speak to you nice. Cool. He wasn't

578
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: a nice guy. So we're at a funeral. Eric is dead,

579
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: Like yo, it sounds funny, but it's so. At the repass,

580
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: we're online, we're getting the food and Eric looks at me.

581
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, tell me something. How many people

582
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: did you shoot back in the days? And I'm like

583
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: what And he's like, you probably forgot it so many?

584
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: I said, bro, listen, that's not a question you ask people.

585
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: So now I know I don't know where it paused

586
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: outside the funeral. Then, folks, he's dead. Boys, I know that.

587
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: He don't know that, you know? And uh yeah, I

588
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: like it hot? Pause right, So uh I'm there. I

589
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: parked like five blocks away because I know what's going on.

590
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: You did so Freddie Fox was a really good friend

591
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: of my nigger. He's not talking to me now, but whatever,

592
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know that's my guy.

593
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: But Eric is his man, right, So the story goes

594
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: he would have been rock Kim. Listen, Eric is mom,

595
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Bumpy is my man. But Eric says guy. So anytime

596
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: his name comes up, I make sure I say some ship.

597
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: He don't want to hear, right. He don't like it,

598
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: and that's probably the reason why we're not really speaking now.

599
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: But he don't like to hear that ship. So Charlie

600
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: Matt comes to town. So Charlie brings me to this

601
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: MTV Rap thirty anniversary ship at the ball. I don't

602
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: go out, so Charlie grabs me Supreme Magnetics Brother Rap.

603
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: He's on the back of the Payton Full album cover.

604
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: He comes home after seven years. They're coming up the block.

605
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for Charlie to bring me down my band.

606
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: I see him. I don't think he remembers me. I

607
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: was a kid when he went to Yeah Ahead and

608
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: he goes you it's that little Sean. I'm like, oh,

609
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Ship Rap. I hug him. He's with Freddie right and

610
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: I see ready. I'm like it, what's up? Man? Cool?

611
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: And we talked. We go in and we're backstage and

612
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: bumpy knuckles looks at me and he's like, Eric is

613
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: mad at you. I'm like, why you said about him

614
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: on your Instagram page? And I'm like, well, what did

615
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: I say? I said, well it was that's where he had.

616
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, he's in his dress room. I said,

617
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't wanna show up. But dude, don't do that,

618
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: I said, because he'll tell you he's mad at me.

619
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: But when we're alone, he wants to know how many

620
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: people I shot. You know what, I don't do that,

621
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: you know what I say? Like, see, at a point,

622
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: you gotta if you're an actor and you're playing a

623
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: role like al Pacino is not a gamester, Okay, I

624
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: don't think against Robert de Niro's not against when the

625
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: cameras all stop because you got some niggas out, it's

626
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: not playing right. So while I never made those records,

627
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not playing with you. Do you understand

628
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So at a point, you gotta have

629
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: a cut offs, an invisible line. You're not to you know,

630
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to cross a tract that you think

631
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I respect that, So you know, for me,

632
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: I just like to stay in my cocoon. You know.

633
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: I came up with Jay and then a new bid Dame.

634
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest because I got I want to

635
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: tell you how much respect that I saw a Jade

636
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: show you how that night at the show that we

637
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: was all there. But I'm see that looks I got

638
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: you go the last I got. I gonna get to

639
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: it later. This one like the Great Zoo from the Star,

640
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: like you think he's not paying attention, you know. And

641
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: I like to play the drunk bro. I like to

642
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: play act like I'm drunk, but I remember everything, you

643
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: know what before you even say that you can't do this?

644
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: Somebody just get this all So I get to the

645
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: place where you saw me, right, And there's only an

646
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: elite few in this area. Yes, if you get in,

647
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: if you made it to this area, you knew Jay

648
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: fuck with you. These dudes haven't seen me in twenty years.

649
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: And they were doing double takes like, oh Ship, hey Sean,

650
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: welcome back, right spot ship? Did I see it? Him?

651
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: And I said, nor, what's good? I said, you o, man,

652
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: you gotta do my my my podcast. He was like, uh,

653
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: what kind of numbers you got? What he said? He said,

654
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: remember that, he said, he said, he said, he said,

655
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: well do mind. First, let's get your numbers up. Remember that.

656
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: You know it was you know why you're my friend,

657
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: but you gotta respect that, and um, you're my friend.

658
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. Um, you're one of

659
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: the dudes that I look up to because I I

660
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: amya people like my my, my brother. Dudes. Dude right

661
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: in all actuality, I've never seen dudes dudes do anything gangster.

662
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: I just know he's a gangster. I actually I actually

663
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: never seen you do anything gangst and you never will.

664
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: But I know you're a gangster. I'm not, but yeah,

665
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. But I know how you want to go

666
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: from that, because you know this is drink chat. It's okay,

667
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'll be honest. It's that was

668
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: amazing story. Man, get up. You can't we can't hear

669
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: you go over it. I supposed to ask you to

670
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: name some of the people that you know you made

671
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: jewelry for, the first person that put you on a map,

672
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: that you made jewelry for, Angelan Kinnes. I did not

673
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: think you saying Angie and Peckhouse, they don't you got

674
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: diamond paper clips in your ship, He's get your numbers.

675
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: So the first person you ever made I was, I

676
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: was seventeen eighteen. I was literally he wasn't working on

677
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: car sale. Where was you working at? Diamond district? First,

678
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: right away from from the flat mush we went straight

679
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: to the diamond district. Because the Diamond district, let's just

680
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: describe it for people that don't know, people that don't know.

681
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: If you want them sell diamonds, you have to be

682
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: on forty separate street. Am I correct? Of the world

683
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: jewelry comes from that district that one block from from

684
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: fist get the first pick, we get, the first pick

685
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: comes from there, because it's not the stores downstairs, but

686
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: one again, jewelry market, what market, wholesale everywhere everywhere. Okay,

687
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: you got callie maybe five ten, maybe five seven percent

688
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: in Hong Kong and everything else. What did you think

689
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: the guys they robbed the guys, those my cousins, that

690
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: was your cousins. Really, that was robbery ever seen. They

691
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: got everybody you see that was back in his time.

692
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: That would never happen because we never got happened. Because

693
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna run away. See you, lady, never

694
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: see him for like a year, and he was on

695
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: the block. My first jeweler was Manny and Tito. Start

696
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: with Yeah, everybody started with Everybody started with Tito and

697
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: his father, well man and his father, Tito. Man. I'm

698
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, Teo, before you say that. Uh.

699
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: In nineties, six ninety seven, that's how I came out.

700
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: Let me six ladies seven. Tito disappeared. He did, yeah,

701
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: because he ended up picking a guy out of the

702
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: lineup on my case, does it sound like a disappearance.

703
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, sorry sorry, That's what was so life

704
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: so so what happened was at that time, at that time,

705
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Jacob was coming up. Jacob, he was on the corner.

706
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: He was a little My family, My family used to

707
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: wholesale for him. The whole sale of Jacob. Hell yeah,

708
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: we got we got checks and all of that still

709
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: back in the eighties nineties. We got the checks. But

710
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: once he can struck a deal with Tito to bring

711
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: him client time, Joe's true to Jacob. He went to

712
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: made a deal to go over there because it was

713
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: over fam. After he did with it, I knew that

714
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: he knew that I was a little with my brother,

715
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: my brother, my brother Alex, who started and you knew what, Yeah,

716
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know that. You would

717
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: never know. It's the first time I knew. They never

718
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: got that up because it's my first year. It's in

719
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: that circle and in the family, so world what happened.

720
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: He's in the world of Manny's Manny and the wife

721
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: got a divorce and Tito shide it with the mother

722
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: and then many disappeared. So that was the first guy,

723
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: was one of the first one. And it's all the

724
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: same right now. Listen to me, No I litening. I'm

725
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: just listening. At that time, at that time when being

726
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: in himself, even I think before he can change. Before

727
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: before was a little man. My brother Alex was the

728
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: one to go to in Brooklyn, in the moll, my

729
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: brother in it wasn't safe. It was not safe. It

730
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: wasn't safe. I was Grandma was not saying. It was

731
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: the first golfront day. It was not safe. My brother

732
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: was the one to go to the very courageous to

733
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: go down here queens thinking my first person. And that's

734
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: how you know, listen, that's how you know, bro, I

735
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: told you about cousins the barragant though, it doesn't matter

736
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: what we can. If they catch you, they'll say, sorry,

737
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: we didn't know, we didn't know. Sorry, Dynamic. I said

738
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: that earlier on Derapy. This case, y'all don't know. Make

739
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: sure you're tuned into Derby. Well, so, I Jesus Louise,

740
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. So you said Andy Martine was

741
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: the first person, and the piece that I made for

742
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: her was the animal house, her animal house. But you

743
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: also made jewlry for jay Z. Oh yeah, definitely. We

744
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: get into that in a second. Let's let's let's talk

745
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: about Let's talk about that right now. Did jay Z

746
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: come to it? What happened? No? It was it which

747
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: jay Z was j Z? No, he still sus with

748
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: jay Z. I'm saying, but how far back wasn't they

749
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: were sucking with each other? It wasn't it was you see,

750
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I was trying to get to j through a long time.

751
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling I was really get anything. You know, pet house.

752
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: You know I was with pets. I was my brother.

753
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: If anybody know me, it's pet black, It's pet And

754
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: that would be like a motherfucker. There was an incident

755
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: when Andrew was doing a video with Cicario. His name

756
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: is I was in the trailer with j Loo, her

757
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: first husband, Chris the jail, Yeah, I love it. So

758
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: I was. I was a little fucking eighteen scranning, you know,

759
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: a little kid. I got the pictures. I had my UH.

760
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I had my uh the gangster, the leather, the leather jacket,

761
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, the three buttons. It looks like the jacket on.

762
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: I had that jacket on and whatever. The video shoot was,

763
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, my first video shot. I didn't know what

764
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: was going. This said be there too thirty. I was

765
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: there two fifteen. She didn't start until like seven o'clock

766
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: at night. Welcome to Hip. I was laying. I didn't

767
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: know what the fun was going. I'm like, yeah, I'm tired,

768
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm hungry and ship whatever we're doing the whole I

769
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: forgot my restaurant. It was somewhere in twenty third Street

770
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: in basement, and she was, you know, should She looked

771
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: beautiful and they did her hand and make him whatever.

772
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: She had a pair of earrands. Actually, I was after

773
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: after the video shooting, I go back in the trailer

774
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: and you know, it was like two in the morning.

775
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. It's my long clock. Just you know,

776
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: that's funny. And so it's a long clock tent. Dirty

777
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: got a long clock of four. Wait this nigga's leaping.

778
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: So so I leave. I get to the office the

779
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: next day and I'm like, yo, I left the pair

780
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: of fucking earrings in the anti mony in this. No,

781
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I forgot. You didn't know here you

782
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: got money, you have no insurance, no, no, listen, no

783
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: one had nothing. I just there was the price that

784
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: on the more or less. Back then it was fucking

785
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: huge gros there five characters each. I'm like, odds, I

786
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: just started and you left it way I know, I

787
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: left it there in the trailer. I didn't look at

788
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: You're old damn like this. I'm fucked up. I don't

789
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: know what's going on. I just literally started the businesses

790
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: finished the hole already in the hole this I can

791
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: look up Don like three o'clock in the afternoon, fucking

792
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: fucking Peckhouse walks and fucking there. You know, I didn't

793
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: know him like that. I just n I just met

794
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: the guy a few months ago. You know. He goes,

795
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: I got you, and he's like, yo, white, he looks

796
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: so upset, bro, Like, what do you mean Brian left

797
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: some earrings and there. I don't know how to call you, guys.

798
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't know to blame it on you guys. Call it.

799
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: Call somebody go over there with my guys, you know,

800
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: my brothers and my mother. I don't know. I was

801
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: a young kid. He's like, what are you talking about? Bro,

802
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: He's like, you're talking about these put something on the table.

803
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh my wow, holy shit. And this is ninety and

804
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: the eight. What he just got He just got his death.

805
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: He was just got his death, jam thing. I think

806
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: he's going to He was just going to death. Cham.

807
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: He was fat, and you know he wouldn't look like you.

808
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: He was young and club locker did look good. Yeah, funny.

809
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like telling like, yo, bro. And then years

810
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: later come Rent and were somewhere. I forgot where the

811
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: hell we were. And he's seeing the story. Dobby was there,

812
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: Gobby was there. God, he loves a lot of way. Yes,

813
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: he fucking he's literally telling you the story. I don't

814
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: know the back end of the story when that happened.

815
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: This is fucking fifteen years later, twenty years ladies, telling

816
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: me what's going on? He fought literally with Gobby, all

817
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: the guys, he fought with them to get you. His

818
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: ex wife at that time foot him on her. He

819
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: was like, now you ain't giving this back, bro. Fuck

820
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: that literally fought with everybody to bring this ship back

821
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: to me. Goddamn. And he didn't yo that. Guys Yo,

822
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I always told him. I was like, listen, I always

823
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: believe you do good, you get good right back back,

824
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: whether it's today tomorrow, it's gonna come right back. So

825
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: you think I know he didn't know for a fact.

826
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: He let's I think he was just a famous guy.

827
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: That's why don't I see the thing? Is this right

828
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: and the whole place if for that girl that that

829
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: happened to you, whatever happened to her, right, h he

830
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: was to whisperous. I think something happened to him, right,

831
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: I'll say that. But but you've seen the movie. Yeah

832
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: it was me. Man. Let me tell you something. There

833
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: was so they called trying to reach out to you

834
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: on the movie. I'm not gonna lie people, listen, listen

835
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: to me. You know I'm in the media now. You

836
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: know my friend off the scenes, right, but I'm in

837
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: the media now. People actually send me screen by screen

838
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: and said, that's a little Sean right there. And it

839
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: was not just that scene, it was the actual robbery

840
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: and that's what offended. But now here's the thing, right,

841
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: you see, if you're he had I'm great. If you

842
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: hear anything about you that isn't true and you feed

843
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: into it, there's there's a piece of it that's true.

844
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: You give life to that true. For me, I like

845
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: to fight boxing mixed martial arts, like, that's my shot.

846
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: Mix it up, right. Yeah. So when you hear ship right,

847
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: and I got on Instagram just to promote a book

848
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: that I wrote, fiction right, what's fiction mean? That's not

849
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like you're so people said,

850
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: oh ship and I named it Behind the Smoke, not

851
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: anything related to Sean. Yo. The followers they're so fucking smart,

852
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: like they like, you're a little Sean. I'm like, oh

853
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: ship right, that's where the Instagram name came from. From

854
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: the book. No, No, I just made it up up

855
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: Behind the Smoke. Okay. So you know when people hitting

856
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: me up every day, right, and I never gave life

857
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: to it, and I never I never responded, and then

858
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: all of a sudden one day stopped and then you

859
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: see people doing interviews. I was there, I did this,

860
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: I did that. See that ship went over there, and

861
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: nobody ever heard me saying anything about it. So can

862
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: I stop you right there? Of course you're the one

863
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: piece that's missing that never said a word. But everything

864
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: you're saying is one correct. But when you think about it,

865
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: like a matter of fact, the day we connected in

866
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Miami at the show, that's the first time me and

867
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: j seeing each other in twenty two years. Okay, look

868
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: at I stop you for one second. I went to

869
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: the dressing room and I did not know I was

870
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: going to the dresser room. You came to the dressing

871
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: room and you know, hold sad. He was like, where's

872
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: a little sean And I said, oh, ship, And I

873
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: gave hold five and I went right back outside and

874
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: then I bought it right into you and I was like,

875
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: and I looked at you, and I was like, is

876
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: looking for you? See I don't like that boy. I didn't.

877
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, and I knew he was gonna

878
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: say something here that I'm not gonna know. It's the

879
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: great goodoo from the Flench. Listen to me. That's when

880
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: I think he's drunk. He's not. I seen you when

881
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: I looked and I was like, you belong here. You know,

882
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: there's certain people that don't belong sometime. But when I'm

883
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: in a certain places and then Nika Hove has no

884
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: idea that I know you at all, I don't see

885
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I always tell people that, right if you come see me,

886
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: I'll say, we're the only ones that know we're here.

887
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Unless you told somebody you would come in to see.

888
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: People only know what you tell him. So when you

889
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: see people talking this because they want to be known

890
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: and they want to be seen, I'm not that guy.

891
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: I want to be a ghost. But only that he

892
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: was expecting you. He looked, he looked at let me

893
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: tell you, he looked at me in a business that

894
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: where's little No no, no, no, no no. He didn't

895
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: look at bigs. He looked at you. And I'm gonna

896
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 1: tell you why. So now be high. Jay's first cousin,

897
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: that's my best friend. To this day, we're like this.

898
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know because you will never

899
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: see us together. But I'll be at his house. Calls

900
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: me one day and he's like Jay called and he

901
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: asked about you. I saw it, and I'm like okay,

902
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: and he's like, do you mind if I give him

903
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: your number? I'm nah, it's my guy. You know, I

904
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: don't listen if we don't see each other. Ever, again,

905
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: that's no strain on my relationship, you know what I'm saying. Like,

906
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: we're always as cool as we was the last time

907
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: I saw you, and it's it's cool we've grown in.

908
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: But you must be getting money because like a lot

909
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: of people don't think like that. But it's a lot

910
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: of people were like, yo, what then they ain't seeing me?

911
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: He owed me. So yeah, but see, the thing is,

912
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: it ain't just money. Well, now the thing is, listen,

913
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: it depends on your character and who you are as

914
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: an individual. I'm happy for anybody making it. And I

915
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: ain't gotta know you' If I know you, I'm really

916
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: happy that you're alive and your well and you're prospering.

917
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's not counting your pocket.

918
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: So like with y'all, the first episode I saw, I said,

919
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: oh this is a hit. I knew, right, So he

920
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: calls from a block number and this is when you

921
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 1: see before I got there, and again we're talking about

922
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: JAJ and I'm thinking a jail call. Yeah, I'm thinking right,

923
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: So I asked, and I didn't get the recording, and

924
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: I hang up. He's still cool and he calls again.

925
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: So he calls back again. I answered the phone and

926
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: he starts speaking and we just start laughing like we

927
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: did the last time we sawed it right. Following a week,

928
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami. We're getting the dressing room and he

929
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: looks and he goes, yo, I read everything on your page.

930
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, where do you find the time to read everything?

931
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: I read everything right on your instagram? Yeah, so let

932
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: you go. So he goes because you go in on

933
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: your Instagram and I don't care. So he's like, you're

934
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: a fair man, and I'm like, what do you mean?

935
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, you're fair. So he's not gonna give

936
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: you everything. You know, you gotta figure it out. You

937
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: know what he's done. I feel like I feel like

938
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: you behaven. I'm so sorry, and I'm gonna tell you why. Okay. So,

939
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: so I'm sitting there thinking about what he's talking about,

940
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, one thing about me? If me,

941
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: you ever had anything, and I'm so old, I might

942
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: have forgot whatever it is you forgot. I said, but

943
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm still the same person. I'm not gonna wake up

944
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: a sucker nigger, right, I don't do that, So you

945
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: don't know me as that guy. I'm not gonna wake

946
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: up that guy tomorrow and do that. So anything I've

947
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: ever written about him on my page has been complimentary

948
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: and respectful. As a grown man, you think what I'm saying.

949
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: He deserves it, and that's it. So now Biggs flies

950
01:01:55,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: in there to surprise Jay. Right, I'm there, That's what

951
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm because you're right. So I'm sitting here and the

952
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: door to come in is there. Jay sitting over here,

953
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: he can't see who's coming in. So Biggs is not

954
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: looking at me, and he's like looking around the corner

955
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: to sneak up on him, and he sees me, goes, oh, ship,

956
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: my brother's are right. Let's the first time to see

957
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: him after that, right, you see him after that? So

958
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: he sits down. When I came home, Dane grabbed man

959
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: and gave me. He gave me my fake job. Who

960
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: good goga he get he gets a great guy. He

961
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: gave me my fake job for parole. So Dan got me,

962
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: and it's damon Biggs. This separation that just happened. I

963
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: just came home and don't even know what's going on.

964
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I know Dane can Clark. Clark introduced Dane in Ja.

965
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: Dane bought Jade to Biggs uptown and that's how they met, Okay,

966
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: and then that started. So now Biggs is sitting here

967
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: knowledge but his life. I love bring like you know.

968
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: So now Biggs is sitting to my right. Jay's on

969
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: my left, and we're talking about some ship that happened.

970
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: Because there was a time I fell out with Dane.

971
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: Then Big stopped coming around. Wow, And then I started

972
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: hanging out with Biggs every day, right, And Biggs was

973
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: on that Washington Heights Latinos ship. Right, I'm with him

974
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: every day. I'm having the most fun I ever had

975
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: about life. Right, I don't even know how I got

976
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: home every day. Right, And you look at Biggs and

977
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: he's super quiet, but it's the best motherfucker you ever

978
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: hung out with, right, I say that, right, So, so Big,

979
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about some ship that happened one night we

980
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: hung out and Big Zoo pop up at a spot.

981
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: Everybody he's going to meet is already there. A right,

982
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: people you've never seen before, right, crew people and then

983
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: there's this fucking big gass motherfucker standing off in the corner.

984
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking this club security, right, and I'm like,

985
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't like club security, right, stop looking at what

986
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: SMOLLU like? And somebody walked up the Biggs and started

987
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: beef in. Bigg is quiet, so Bigg is not saying anything.

988
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: He don't look scared, but he's just not responding. So me,

989
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm on my just come home big ship. So I'm

990
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: standing off to the side like Biggs, what's up? What's up?

991
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: And Biggs is looking at me, going I'm going, fuck that.

992
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: What's up with this dude? Like what we're doing? Biggest

993
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: looks at me, he goes a million squashed potatoes. I

994
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: don't smoke weeds, right, I don't smoke weed, So I'm

995
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: going I don't even drunk the fund is he talking

996
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: about a million squashed potatoes? And the dude is going

997
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: crazy and Bigges just stand there looking at him, and

998
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, your big something still smashing like a million

999
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: squashed potatoes. I'm like, you know what, I'm not even

1000
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna pay that ship though. Mind. At the end of

1001
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: the night, dude disappeared. The big guy that was in

1002
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: the corner all night long, leaves, Biggs grabs me. We

1003
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: walk out the club. The big guy opens his fucking

1004
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: door and lets us in the suv and I don't

1005
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: know he ain't club security. He closed the door and

1006
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: we're in the car. We drive off and I look

1007
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: at Biggs and Biggs goes a million squashed potatoes. That

1008
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: guy was his security and nobody knew he got there

1009
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: before Biggs. When Biggs pulled up, the opening is going

1010
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: and he wonked in. Bigg's had his own club security

1011
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: with him, so Biggs wasn't where. He's like, yo, if

1012
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: this dude make a move, he's finished. The dude was armed,

1013
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: he was huge, and I'm going and Biggs goes a million.

1014
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: So now somebody don't flap. So don't flap, don't flap,

1015
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: don't flapn't flap. So he's telling this story and J

1016
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: he's dressing room and we're diet. I'm crying, and Jay

1017
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: finishes the story. He said, I read that on your page,

1018
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: a million squarehed potatoes. I'm going, goddamn, I wrote that

1019
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: five months ago. No, no, that Nigga watches everything everything, Yeah,

1020
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: he sees everything. No, no, listen, I thought. I thought like, like,

1021
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, I did business with this nigga, So I'm

1022
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: thinking like, like, he's not gonna pay attention to every

1023
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: day this thing he hates me and be like, that's

1024
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: not you to playboy, I'll say something about this thing.

1025
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: You noticed. He did the same thing to me. He said, Man,

1026
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: you know you wrote something. I have the issue And

1027
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like you know that too. He's really kid. He was.

1028
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: He was the only guy. He was the only client

1029
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: that I really like, I'm not gonna lie you. You

1030
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: made the big hope Jane that I was. And like

1031
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: he said, I'm going back to what he's saying. I'm

1032
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: quiet you you see my Instagram and how my junior client.

1033
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: So what happened was this change was made. My brother

1034
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: got blessed, the soul passed away. Comments he our our

1035
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: supplier calls our factory in Turkey calls us. Yeo, I

1036
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: got this up. Sorry, did you said you're supplying Turkey? Yeah, affactory,

1037
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean a factory. You said your factory and yeah

1038
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: we're not you Turkus the family or no, you guys

1039
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: are I don't know what Russian question. I don't know

1040
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: what he called me. He said, yo, this, this fucking

1041
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: five kilo. Everybody thinks it was ordered. It's not who

1042
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: made this, the big J. You didn't know that it

1043
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: was not ordered. It was it was not J who

1044
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: you called it. Now in fact that the factory calls

1045
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: is listening your brother. The manager calls me. He's like, listen,

1046
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: your brother ordered this thing. You guys are you guys

1047
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: are right over there? What do you fucking serious? Five kilo?

1048
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: It's like eleven pounds, like a right if you ordered

1049
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: it ordered the don't do him go because that's how

1050
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: we I ordered it. They call him what would it cost?

1051
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: I can't say that. You tell me what camera you're sewn.

1052
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: I need to know. So the thing comes in. It

1053
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 1: comes in the fucking towel, you know, the hotel towers

1054
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: wrapped up. He was fucking yo, Bro, I put the

1055
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: ship on my neck. I was, you know, the veins

1056
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: right here. I can't breathe. Literally two seconds that I

1057
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: cannot breathe. It's so from the way fucking hivy Bro

1058
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: was sucking the saying it's like two and a half

1059
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: inches wide, like this seems crazy. So really I was like,

1060
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: you know, fucking myselfI ship too, like who the fund

1061
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: is going on here? Oh you all made it without

1062
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: a buyer. Just that's the Julius because like I gotta

1063
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: do it. You gotta do it. You gotta be different

1064
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: than the games. You gotta do something crazy. I call packhouse,

1065
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: I make your pack. What are we doing with this?

1066
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: You gotta help me, like, help me find somebody's that

1067
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: I can, you know, sell this back to himself. But

1068
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: tell me who you think is gonna fit this thing?

1069
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: He said, he even think about it. Heaps in the

1070
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: picture of the home. He said, I'll think about it.

1071
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: Let me see who you know. I call you and

1072
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: tell you you call him or you know going You're

1073
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna find him? Okay, a couple of weeks, I don't know,

1074
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: a couple of days past, you know, Saturdays with an

1075
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: open we we're sort of my grandmother, I mean, we

1076
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: made a promise wouldn't open on Saturdays. Is you know

1077
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: religious thing, you know, the Jewish. I get a phone

1078
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: call and this is February, February or early March, late February.

1079
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: I had a phone called pet calling me like five

1080
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon in the evening. He said, Yo,

1081
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: where's the chain? I'm like, why what happened? It's like

1082
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: it's in the store in the same He's like, open

1083
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: the store now, Jay, want to see it. I said,

1084
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: I can't open the store. I gotta open the store

1085
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: at seven oh five. That's when the Sabbath breaks and

1086
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: I can't go see it. If you flappers you know

1087
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: the Jewish, Yeah, we're not. I'm not lie, So I

1088
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: don't care who it is. I'll see you there at

1089
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: seven oh five or seven fifty. Nah. Bro, he hasn't

1090
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: playing to catch YadA YadA, blah blah blah. No, hell no,

1091
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: I didn't break the Sabbath. I got the seven thirty.

1092
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: I got there seven thirty text. I'm like, yeah, I'm here.

1093
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 1: He pulls up. He's like, I'm like, what's going on?

1094
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm driving He's calling crazy. He's not telling me. He's like, yo, what.

1095
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fun is going on here? And

1096
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: what's Probably's like, Yo, this guy has to be did

1097
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: you say who it was? He saying, this guy has

1098
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: to be in a Planta at this time. The plane

1099
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: is waiting. Stop sucking the big Jay, I'm buggling. I'm

1100
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: so sorry. I'm like, I'm like, all right, cool. He

1101
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: pulls up to the store, like two trucks pull up.

1102
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: And at that point I didn't meet Emory yet. And

1103
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: then cutting meet Emory, you know, and he pulls the

1104
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: window down, jays in the back. I'm like looking in

1105
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: the car. Who the fund is the call this? Who

1106
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: does that? At the car? He pokes that. It's like

1107
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: shut and that ship that oh and I'm walking with

1108
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: the fucking door and all you hear is cook like that,

1109
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: like you could you hear that? Like heavy ship. Emory's like,

1110
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: what's up, bro? You got that? And hopens the door

1111
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, this makes his noise. So he

1112
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: takes so so then that influous the infamous picture of

1113
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: j on the private plane or with the y'all with

1114
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: the with the y'alla on his neck going yea with

1115
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: y'all y'all. That's the infamous picture. He's on the plane

1116
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: and the private plane with this squa. You gotta gotta

1117
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: go to that picture. He's on that with the big

1118
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: gas chain on and uh, come to find out he

1119
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: went to Jermaine the priest anniversary. So so definitely so

1120
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: so deaf, and that's why I'm sorry he came out

1121
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: of everybody. Sorry, I got some great jail emory stories.

1122
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, we me and jail with me and AMers

1123
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: locked up in the fence together. Huh, let's take it

1124
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,919
Speaker 1: from there, okay. So you would in jail and defect.

1125
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: So when I went in, that was that's the best

1126
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: year of my life. It wasn't. I was the best

1127
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: best year of my life. Is like, the was the

1128
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: worst jail. I'm so sorry. So I want to let

1129
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: you know that I was living it for you, whatever

1130
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: happened to you. I was living with my man. But

1131
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Good to you. So now the first

1132
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: phone call I made when I got to the FET

1133
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: was to Clark, and that's how I found Okay. But

1134
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. For the sake of me being media,

1135
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: I have to ask, why were you in the fact.

1136
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for all these rappings, for all

1137
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: the lyrics, but you also said you was a positive

1138
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 1: in your rap records. No, I mean you know you

1139
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: can under said that. You said you padded myself after

1140
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: L for women you understanding of themselves, and that that's

1141
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: just not supposed to go to jail because I've jail.

1142
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 1: But see, yeah, well LLL didn't come up like I

1143
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: came up right, so right, so so you at all.

1144
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: So the first phone call I made was clock clock,

1145
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: and that's how I found out that black just got killed.

1146
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: Remember black Justice. Okay, So I heard that. Wow. The

1147
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: next phone call I made was to Emory. He was

1148
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 1: he was home on house release about three years past.

1149
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: Everyone was a whole little house. I didn't know he

1150
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: caught a case. So three years later, I'm in the

1151
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: hole during a hundred and eighty eight days and I'm

1152
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: looking out the window. They smoke up the window so

1153
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: you can't see. You can't really make out who you

1154
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: looking at. And that's for the protection because we will

1155
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: fly kites like such and such as here. And he's

1156
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: a good dude, you know, you checking your right so

1157
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: you'll check and see. And I'm looking at a smoke

1158
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: glass and I looked like at a guy that looks

1159
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: like Emory walking on the pound. But I can't be sure.

1160
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: Everybody's not famous at this time. No, So when I

1161
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: get out there, Emory's there. He just came in. So

1162
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: now you know it's me, him and one other guy

1163
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: on the pound that knew JA personally, right, Emories on

1164
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: the phone with him every day, I'm not whatever. So

1165
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: when I left, Emory walked me out. But there was

1166
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: a guy that grew up with Jay. And again respect

1167
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: to the goud to Haven, I don't know him. I

1168
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 1: didn't grow up in Marcy. I met j Threw Jacks

1169
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Old jazz O was my guy. I met Ja threw

1170
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: him and me and Jay Clinton m you know. And

1171
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: when you start the Instagram page, you got these guys

1172
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,799
Speaker 1: going I grew up with Jay. These are the pictures,

1173
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: and people are hitting me like yo, is this dude starting? True,

1174
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I didn't grow up with him,

1175
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: so I can't really comment on that expect that. So

1176
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 1: the dude the Haven jumps on my page and he's

1177
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: in my d M S and I'm like, bro, respectfully,

1178
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: definitely did I'm not I was not ready for that.

1179
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did not know. He hits you

1180
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: in your DNA. Of course I'm not rich, right, so

1181
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna see right And yeah, so we're

1182
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: talking to d m S and I'm like, bro, I

1183
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: don't really respect your angle, but whatever you're doing, that's

1184
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: on you. I don't do that, you know what I'm saying.

1185
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know, you to comment and saying what's

1186
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: true or what's not true. I don't get into that,

1187
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: you know. So there was another guy in jail who

1188
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: came up with Jay who did the same thing, kind

1189
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: of like what the haven did. So now me, him

1190
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: and Emory we're in the Fez and four Dicks and

1191
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: Emory comes to my unit and he's like, YEO, I

1192
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: gotta tell you something. I'm like, what's up. He's like, Yo,

1193
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: this dude said some shit about you, you know. And

1194
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know him from the street? He like, nah,

1195
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: I said, did Jay? And he's like yeah, And I'm like, well,

1196
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: what did he say? And he said something about me?

1197
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, said I know you're all

1198
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: in the fat together. Yeah. He's like, you know, I

1199
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: know you're going home. I'm gonna suck your time, dude.

1200
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: In the father, That's all I did was fighting. So

1201
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: they didn't even have nothing else to take from me.

1202
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: They took everything from me, so they had to let

1203
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: me go. So he's like, I ain't gonna tell you,

1204
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 1: but you know, I stand by what I say. So

1205
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: I went and checked the dude and I'm like yeah,

1206
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: So I go see the dude, and I'm like, yo, bro,

1207
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know you, so I don't know what you're

1208
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: talking about. I don't even know why you would reference me.

1209
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: But I don't have it all upstairs my elevator. Don't

1210
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: go to the penthouse. I'm telling you now, So all

1211
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: that ship you don't, I'm gonna stab you everywhere I

1212
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: catch right. You know Coloss on your phone list, he's

1213
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: on mine. That's the only thing we have in common.

1214
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know you, bro, But the next time you

1215
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: called my he's like, yo, who would say something about me?

1216
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm like em Marie Jones. He told me to tell

1217
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 1: you that he said it. I know you did it,

1218
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: but I'm not that guy. So if you want to

1219
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: go home, go home. Bro. After that day, every time

1220
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: he went to the store, he left something in my room.

1221
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: He's going to So all the gangster ship niggas be talking. See,

1222
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: niggas want to talk, but niggas don't want to live

1223
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: that ship for real. When they come up against something

1224
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna touch you, I'm gonna touch you and I'm

1225
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: not gonna talk. Okay, So now so so now, yeah,

1226
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: so now we all come home. This guy does a

1227
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: book or DVD. He's doing the same ship talking about

1228
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: jay I put your on that's on you about behavior. No, no, no,

1229
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: it's another guy. I wouldn't he be give him no light,

1230
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: you know something because you're not that guy for me,

1231
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: because if you was that guy, you wouldn't be doing that.

1232
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: I gonna be honest when I that night, guy, I

1233
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: saw you when I went, I don't know what part

1234
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: I came through the joint, but I looked at and

1235
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, what's up? Glory. Then he was like

1236
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: where do y'all? He was like where? He asked where

1237
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: you was he he never asked. Good motherfucker's I'm gonna

1238
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: tell you're not told? And I was like, ship and

1239
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was there back. Yeah. So the

1240
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: thing is for me, you know, just because he's this

1241
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: guy now and I've known him when he was. He

1242
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: doesn't owe me anything. You get yourself hot. So just

1243
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: how you reinvented yourself. You could have stopped when you

1244
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: stopped making music. And I said, you reinvent yourself, man,

1245
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: and you make yourself hot. You did, and then whatever

1246
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: comes to you afterwards. That's it, dude, Just like that's

1247
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: just that's after part. So now we all we all

1248
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: come home and I see this dude and now he's

1249
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: YouTube up. He wrote a book, and I'm in a party,

1250
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: you know. I went to go do something at this part,

1251
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: and I run into the guy and he's like, Yo, Shore,

1252
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: what's up man, Let's take a picture. I got a book.

1253
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't take a picture with you in jail.

1254
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a picture to you in the street.

1255
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: But you're good. He's like yeah, and then he looks

1256
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: at the guy that I'm standing with. Street guy he

1257
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: did eleven years. It's the first time I ran it's on.

1258
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know they know each other, but this is

1259
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: the gangster to this to that right. He looks at

1260
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: the dude, and the dude looks at him. He goes, yo,

1261
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: what's up man, And the dude say, Yo, get out

1262
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: of here before you get murdered. And the nigga put

1263
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 1: his head down and walked away. Oh my god. So

1264
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: you see, these are the people that was ready there

1265
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: talking and they're doing all this. I'm this, I'm that

1266
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: I was. That's bullshit. So when you run up against

1267
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: the rich. Listening wise, we could call his name a

1268
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: million times when you were not connected. We started talking

1269
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: and I would link our glue was initially was busted. Okay,

1270
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were as young as you are

1271
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: for the two Okay. So we're talking and I'm telling

1272
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: you about everybody in your projects that I know, and

1273
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, every once in a while I go see

1274
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: Uncle Wise on the abbe in front of the barber shop, right,

1275
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know Wise. I'm like, yeah, nobody

1276
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: will ever pull a picture up of Wise on Instagram.

1277
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: And that's what it's about. If you are that guy,

1278
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: you're not worried about who knows, who thinks, who sees,

1279
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: because you're not trying to be fucking famous. I don't care.

1280
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: I just don't care. So any time I talk about

1281
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: crime on my page, I always write cryptically. So I

1282
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: write books and scripts now I write definitely didn't rob

1283
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: tupap courst n We just gotta do that. But but

1284
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: I'll get you a funny story, okay, because no, no, no, no, listen. Right,

1285
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: So you remember Third Base, Yes, the white boy I

1286
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: love the Niggers, and they had a black DJ. What's

1287
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: DJ Richie rich Rich? Yeah? Yeah, he said, yes, SE's

1288
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: so The thing is, you know he did this ship

1289
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: the last time I was in Miami. He's like, oh,

1290
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: you don't smoke, but you're gonna try. He would keep

1291
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm fou. But Richie rich is cam D

1292
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: also right, the same group cam D. Yeah, they had

1293
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: a group called cam D. Maybe I got so. Uh,

1294
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: this guy, Richie Richard went to my high school. But

1295
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: he's younger than me, right, so you know, one time

1296
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm leaving him going home and he runs up to me.

1297
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, man, I just got into the school,

1298
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: and you know, I see you running with these guys

1299
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: and you know, just look out for me when you

1300
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: get a chance. And I'm like, okay, I don't know

1301
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,839
Speaker 1: who he is. Years later we get in the industry.

1302
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: He's Richie rich third Base whatever. So one night there

1303
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: was a party at Death Jam. Death Jam threw a

1304
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: party across the street from Memorating on Varick. Of course,

1305
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: right there was there was a club on sixty. There

1306
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: was a club of course street called Tilt. And I'm

1307
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,919
Speaker 1: in there with some guys like SLBs right now exactly,

1308
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna party. I'm gonna I definitely see

1309
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly who you are. It resonated later

1310
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: because I'm so he was there. You know, I'm never

1311
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: talk So so we're in this party and I'm with

1312
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: the worst that Brooklyn has to offer, okay, And I

1313
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: see Richie rich and another guy that used to be

1314
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: the third base. I like these guys by know him

1315
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: through Clark because this whole DJ thing because I'm always

1316
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: at his house and I know everybody that's right. So

1317
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: I see this dude, and of course they're already drunk,

1318
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: but I want to keep them away from these guys,

1319
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: Richie and the drunk. And I see them and I'm

1320
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: pouring champagne and it hit my arm and it poured

1321
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: some champagne on my man, Scooter bro. And I'll look

1322
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: at him and he's like, Yo, who is these dudes?

1323
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: And I look and I'm like, I got it now.

1324
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: For the people that don't know. And the Tupop movie,

1325
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: Scooter is the guy that's nothing nothing then, nothing related, nothing,

1326
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: nothing related. But in the Tupac movie, nothing related they

1327
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: tried to depict. Nope, Nope, that wasn't school. Nope. You see.

1328
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you, so I turned my back

1329
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: on these guys and I'm getting these guys away, like, yeah,

1330
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: what's up? You're good, alright, go ahead. And I turned

1331
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: around back to these guys and they're like, yo, you

1332
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: got a problem with these guys? What's up with them?

1333
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 1: And I turned around and one is holding the other

1334
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: back from like coming to fight. I don't know what happened, right,

1335
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: And I'm looking the third base dudes holding themselves, and

1336
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 1: I go in my pocket and I backed my scalpel

1337
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: out and I started chasing them through the party like

1338
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: y'all front, and I like stopped right. I get out,

1339
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: we leave the club. My car I had Alexis school.

1340
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: I'm like me and Pepper from Salt and Pepper's first

1341
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: people in New York with LECs coops when they first

1342
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: changed it a little here loove yo, she he was sold.

1343
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: I get outside and we walk into the cars and

1344
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: my ship is leaning. I'm like, why is my ship leaning?

1345
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: My ship is riddle with bullets, yo, my ship is

1346
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: riddled with bullets. Yo. Just a tear just dropped out

1347
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: my right eye. I'm like, Yo, my fucking car. They

1348
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: shot to car, shot my car. We're at till shot

1349
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: my car? Right? Cool? I already knew who did it?

1350
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 1: It definitely feel like some flatbush shit. Nope, nope, it

1351
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: was nothing, alright, leave it so now put it in

1352
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: the shop, bought another car. I'm hoodied up and I'm

1353
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: looking for these motherfucker's because Richie rich that's not him.

1354
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: You get money, you could buy a gun, right, and

1355
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: you shoot it. That don't make you tough, right, You

1356
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: just got a con. And I catch him and I

1357
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: put him in a hospital. Right. My mother calls me

1358
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: to a couple of days later, she's like, yo, why

1359
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 1: the police looking for you? And at that time I

1360
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: had cases out the waz right, And I'm like, I

1361
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: don't know. And then I figured it out. This kid

1362
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: went in the house, got his mother, called the ambulance,

1363
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: went to the hospital. She called the police. Yeah, and

1364
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: picked me out of a lineup. So now the day before,

1365
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: when I find out it's him, I call clock. I'm like,

1366
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: get what's up with your man? Call him on a

1367
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: three way, gets him on the phone. I'm like, yo, bro,

1368
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: I know y'all shot my car. I didn't say nothing.

1369
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm turning myself in tomorrow with a lawyer. Don't go

1370
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: down there. Next day, I turned myself in this motherfucker

1371
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: is behind picks me out right, say nothing. I get out.

1372
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: The same day I call call again, call your man.

1373
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm like your bro. All the protection can't help you.

1374
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to leave New York. I'm gonna kill you. Right.

1375
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: So this guy is running around with a gun, he

1376
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: gets locked up. Whatever, I'm gonna nothing harm you. He

1377
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: gets locked up with a gun. Chard So now he

1378
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: has a case. I'm not gonna call her name because

1379
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: she'll be mad. But whoever promoted the tunnel with Chris Life,

1380
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: don't call her. That ain't Jessica. Don't right, he said,

1381
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: don't call I'm sorry. I didn't listen. The word went down.

1382
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: I didn't happened. I was, oh my god. Went down

1383
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: to the d a's office and said that she saw

1384
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: him shoot my car. So they told him, said listen,

1385
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him three months and we're gonna give

1386
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: you a one to three if you don't drop the charges.

1387
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: So the night that I caught him, right, I took

1388
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: everything from him, Richie rich and I sent the Richie

1389
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Richie down DJ not the West Coast Richie rich either,

1390
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: and I sold it to a guy. They gave it

1391
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: to feel like you sold the roper. He said to

1392
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: give it. He gave it to Tuparc. So if you look,

1393
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: there's a there's a picture online with Tupacs like this

1394
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,879
Speaker 1: and there's a bone bracelet with diamonds around it octagon.

1395
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Remember that brace Tupac got that bracelet on. Wow, that

1396
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: was retreats bracelet. I didn't understand what we're talking about

1397
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: right now? Are you telling me? Are you telling me

1398
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: you have exact and then you you that's y'all so

1399
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: so sad. So the thing is right, I'm gonna say thee. So.

1400
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: So as far as robbing anybody like, that's so far

1401
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: beneath me. I expect as a person. See if I'm

1402
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna rob anybody at that time when I was in

1403
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: the space to face getting your face, and you're gonna

1404
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: know who did it, you know, And it's not gonna

1405
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: be for jury. It's gonna be for something that it's

1406
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: called a no look back. See when you grab a

1407
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: bag and it ain't worse, you can't live off this bag,

1408
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: don't do it because it's not enough for you to

1409
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: live comfortably. Don't do it. So for the people that

1410
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: think about it, I'm gonna be honest, because you're my

1411
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: friend and I know, nor stop setting up the clip. Man,

1412
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know. I need

1413
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: to clear Listen, listen, listen. Oh my guys, just going

1414
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 1: did you get a list of the you know what

1415
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna ask? Just when I watched through Tu Fox

1416
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: ships your motherfucker funny day that this is the next

1417
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: I need you to say yes or let me tell

1418
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: your shot, chuckause you definitely yes, Chuck your shot. I

1419
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 1: would never I would never see when that happened. It

1420
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: became aim such a phenomenon, especially in Brooklyn. Yes, I

1421
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: had guys tell me, you know, I was there and

1422
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I did it. I'm like, really, I'm the only one

1423
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: that got questioned for the crime in Andre her Rail's

1424
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: office with Andre there midtime. I wasn't ready for this part.

1425
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: But now you come on, get up, get up, get up? Okay,

1426
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: not wait a minute, which Tuck? Okay? You only know one, right,

1427
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that one? Which one East New York?

1428
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 1: The one that's actually charged. He hasn't been charged, hasn't

1429
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: been he's in the FED, hasn't been charged. He's in

1430
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: a FED. The one I'm talking about. I was just

1431
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: in one's Old Ville. Yeah absolutely, Walter Johnson, Yes, absolutely.

1432
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: He hasn't been charged with fat not for that. But

1433
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 1: what's your question, because actually, what's your relationship like Duke,

1434
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,560
Speaker 1: what's like what's up with you and him? Like do

1435
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: you know? Okay, I listened because he's a legendary bros. Listen,

1436
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,640
Speaker 1: that's a part of mine, that was a part of

1437
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 1: my circle. That's school in touch in Oldest Villa, yether Man. Okay,

1438
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 1: So where are you from originally from? How do you

1439
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: know him? You know of him or you know? No,

1440
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I m inside of norm I was in Old vill

1441
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 1: so wait wait yeah, I was in the Oldest guys

1442
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: and you was there before school to got there, so

1443
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: you was there with Lou and Tu Lou hobbs off. Okay,

1444
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: all right, all right, listen to me. Listen to me

1445
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 1: right See, I don't see you would know these guys

1446
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 1: from in there, but I know these guys from the sandbars, right,

1447
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: so you would hear things and you can't really pinpoint

1448
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,560
Speaker 1: facts as to what's true what's not true. I know

1449
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: everything that is and everything that isn't. I know the

1450
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: real motherfucker's and I know the guys that weren't as

1451
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: notorious as these guys. So now Scoot is there. He's

1452
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 1: another one that you'll never ever hear talk and do

1453
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: interviews and stuff like that. But when he got the

1454
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Oldest Ville, he went there twice. The first time he

1455
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 1: was there for a hour and the war took him

1456
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: in the office and said, you can't stay here and

1457
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: ship them out back to Allan with Penn with Princeton

1458
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 1: and from Queen's okay cool, and then they brought him back.

1459
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: So now the first visit, I get cleared to go

1460
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: see him because I'm his co defended, right, So I

1461
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: go see him coming in. There's a family and they

1462
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: called touch name and I'm like, oh, ship, let's touch family. Cool.

1463
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 1: They're going before me. I going after Tuck comes out

1464
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: out there back. He walks right by me and over

1465
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: to his family. Schooter comes out sits next to me

1466
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, Tud just came out here. Let's

1467
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: tuk people over there. He looks. He's like, so you

1468
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: don't know what goes on in jail, but you've been

1469
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: there so you know how to go right. And Scooter

1470
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: has a problem with anybody doing any media ship because

1471
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: when you're in the street. That's the last thing you

1472
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 1: want to do, right of the pictures. You want to

1473
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: be on the mic. You don't make music. Right. Three

1474
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: hours passed, they're going to take pictures. Now you've been

1475
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: in the visiting room, right, so you know how to go.

1476
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,560
Speaker 1: Pictures is over here. You'll go back over there, and

1477
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: this is the visiting room. The c o sit there

1478
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: and the machines is over there. There you go, and

1479
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: Tuck goes up to take a picture with his family.

1480
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: He stops over there and he sees me. He's like, yo,

1481
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: what what's up? But he wouldn't come nowhere near me? Tuck, Yeah,

1482
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: and I'm asking Scooter up what's going on? Like He's like,

1483
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 1: I don't fun with that, dude. You see. So urban

1484
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: legend has this that you're all together, but bro in

1485
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: the circle, it's like the ship that happened in your house,

1486
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: we don't know. So nobody knows what happened in my house.

1487
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm not gonna expose you, but be cool.

1488
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: But he definitely didn't have had anything. Robber. That's my friend.

1489
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta talked to, like my friend, No,

1490
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: I gotta talked to liked nothing. So I don't even

1491
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: know why people are doing interviews connecting themselves to this

1492
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: they they'd been pointing at because they didn't have nothing

1493
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: to do with that ship. I was there, bro, I listened.

1494
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Michael didn't stay to see you. Yeah. I had to

1495
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: go back the next day to get my car and elevator.

1496
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I was upstairs already, Big was there first. No one stop.

1497
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: You know what knows because in Quad give me something,

1498
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 1: elevators are here, no one. I'm in and when you

1499
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: get off the elevator it's like a wall. Yeah. And

1500
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 1: I was over here by reception with Andre Herrell and

1501
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 1: Paul was there too, of course and puff yeah. Because

1502
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing. This is how that this is how

1503
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:07,839
Speaker 1: the whole ship came about. Andre was doing New York Undercover.

1504
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, that was his television show. Okay, so but

1505
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: what was it row the show he produced that he

1506
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: was a producer. That was his ship. That's nice, that's crazy.

1507
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 1: So somebody had a bright idea and said, yo, look,

1508
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna get Park to do a song with Sean.

1509
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 1: I had just signed to Uptown at the time. Because

1510
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: at the time, let me just describe this, you're way

1511
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: hotter than biggiest mots biggie. It's not even he just

1512
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: thoughted he that is that red popping over after that?

1513
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. He had songs released on

1514
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: didn't so with when I was on Uptown MC ain't

1515
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: I released Don Perry on and Big was in the

1516
01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: video right. So, uh, when dude got there and got

1517
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,760
Speaker 1: off the elevator, I gotta I gotta ask when you

1518
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: say it, dude, you so even the account that he made,

1519
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: that's not what happened. What's the account that he made?

1520
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: He said everybody he said got the elevator, everybody ran

1521
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: from him, and it wasn't that's not what happened. We

1522
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: ran towards him and were trying to get him to

1523
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 1: sit down, and he went to sit down, and he

1524
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: popped back up because it's what he says, right, and

1525
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: he said, called my mother, and detectives got there. The

1526
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: ambulance got there, right, and they put him in the

1527
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: girl and they stood him up and they brought him

1528
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: in the elevator to bring him down. So now everybody

1529
01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: else that was still there, the police was like, we

1530
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: know that there's guns up here. We're gonna search this floor.

1531
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 1: I heard that and there was one guy, short guy

1532
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:17,639
Speaker 1: that was with Tupacket. Then he didn't leave when they left,

1533
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: and he was just on the wall stiff. And I

1534
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: walked up to him and I was like, yo, you're good.

1535
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: He was like yeah, and I said, come with me

1536
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: in the back. I bought him in what they called

1537
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: the live room where they have instruments right, and I

1538
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: searched him. He had a ham on him. I took

1539
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 1: it off his waist, but you had to search it. Yeah,

1540
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: took it off his waist, put it in the piano,

1541
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 1: and I said, the cops are gonna search this floor.

1542
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: So now you know, let a couple of days go

1543
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 1: by and you can come back and get your ship.

1544
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: And he was like thanks, so don't worry about it.

1545
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 1: Months later, me and Big God Blessed the Dad were

1546
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: in Daddy's house and we're talking about this and Big

1547
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: is like, yo, I don't know why he would think

1548
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: that I had anything to do with that. Big Tupac

1549
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: came to New York and I told him about hanging

1550
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: out with these guys. Tupac went and told these niggas

1551
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: that Big said that ship. So now they was on

1552
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: after Big. See you don't hear that ship. Do here

1553
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: you heard It's not it's not polke Rize. It's not right.

1554
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: But so big was Madoc put him on blast. He said,

1555
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I'm the one that went and

1556
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: got his gun from him out the studio. I looked

1557
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: and I said, you got it out the piano. He said,

1558
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: how'd you doing? Said? Because I put it there. Uh.

1559
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 1: All of that ship that happened afterwards was a ploy

1560
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: and it was manufactured by Sugar Knight. When you say

1561
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: a ploy, I don't know what a ploy beans it was.

1562
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: So if you think about back then Tupac got convicted

1563
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: of the rape. He went to jail. That sucking nigga

1564
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Powell, who did an interview for Vibe the Leska

1565
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,719
Speaker 1: guy I know, and Tupac said, thug life is dead.

1566
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: He said, I might be killed after this interview, but

1567
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 1: I want my truth to be known. Right, And he's

1568
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: doing an interview right, Suge Knight goes to get him

1569
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: out of jail. Yeah, when Sugar Knight got him out

1570
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: of jail, it's the first time you heard Biggie and

1571
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 1: Puff did it now? Oh he's those West Coast ship

1572
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: was manufactured by Sure she'll did that ship. But not

1573
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: but you're not the shooting. You're saying that. No, no,

1574
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it just so not vibe. Not the

1575
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: media you're saying Tupac wasn't saying that. Tupac was blaming

1576
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: street guys after Shug came and got on out of

1577
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: That's that's the wayson. I'll be honest. I'll be honest.

1578
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: That's where I keep asking you because when Tupac was

1579
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: playing with the street guys, you he was one of

1580
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: the number one day. Yeah, but I wasn't a street guy.

1581
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't he was, he was reading, was wrapping. I'm

1582
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: a lie. I can't really let you get away, but

1583
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: you have to because because you have to. But you

1584
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: have to, you know why, because you wouldn't know that

1585
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: if you didn't have a foot in the street, you know,

1586
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: like about me, what you know, I'm gonna lie. You're

1587
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 1: very good, you know, but it's the truth. What would

1588
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: you know? Right? So if I never spoke about this before, right,

1589
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you how this ship unraveled. If you

1590
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 1: see media, if it's going the newspaper tomorrow on the cover, y'all,

1591
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: all the Trump gets impeached everybody in the room's going

1592
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: Trump gets impeached, but he's not gonna be removed. But

1593
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: he's impeached. You don't know what the funk that means.

1594
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: They don't know the nuances. He's still the president of

1595
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: the stage. Where your case is different as wrong. Had

1596
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: to be fair. That's one more time to be fair. Listen,

1597
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: come on, you're a real nigger, you know, but you

1598
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 1: only know that and real niggers in the world, like

1599
01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: people know. They said, this is what they say. They say,

1600
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: little shock school. You name his name down, that's your

1601
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:10,719
Speaker 1: name it? And what's the other nigga? I don't know, somebody,

1602
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: what's the other nigga? The other nigga? No, they said that,

1603
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: y'all three niggas, the niggas that broad but I'm telling

1604
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: and then y'all bring it to Gabriel but you But

1605
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: but here's the thing, Okay, it's been is there a stemitations?

1606
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: Of course, but twenty I would bro twenty five years right.

1607
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: I was the only one question for the crime. Oh

1608
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 1: you were actually questioned over it. Question. No, I was

1609
01:46:52,760 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: the only one question. And I wouldn't no, no, nope, nope, nope, nope, No.

1610
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: I was the only one question for a crime. So

1611
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: you were a prime suspect at that moment. Yeah, because

1612
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: I had an open case in the same presint at

1613
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 1: that time, and I said, I'll sit down with them.

1614
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: I don't care, but Andre has to be there, all right. Yeah. Yeah.

1615
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: So we're in Andre's office and they get there and

1616
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we heard you with jealous of Tupac.

1617
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, the fast this is, let's take it.

1618
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: And they said we heard you were jealous of Tupac.

1619
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, that's your angle, all right, peace and

1620
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: I gotta be walked out. Great story, guys, Yeah, because

1621
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: oh nah, you know, come on, come on, but bro,

1622
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 1: listen to me. I'm listening to you. If I take

1623
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: something from you, it's gonna ruin your life. If I

1624
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 1: take your chain and your watch, that ain't gonna ruin

1625
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 1: your life. So if I ever robbed somebody, it won't

1626
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 1: be that. But you have get offitted my little story

1627
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 1: all the time, but not anymore after the past. To

1628
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 1: think about it. I'm in jail and that ship is

1629
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: coming to me and people in jail of robbing Tupac, right,

1630
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: but you know, how, how how did that happen like

1631
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: when you're in jail, you use it like you robbed

1632
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: two parts. And every jail in every jail. I started

1633
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: in Virginia. I did the county jail and then I

1634
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: then I did Oldisville, and then I went to Fort

1635
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: Dicks and I came home from that's I was in

1636
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: on the east side. I was on the west side,

1637
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 1: and then I went to the camp because the camp

1638
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 1: wasn't built when I got there. And then I got

1639
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: kicked out the camp Western solitary ex months and got

1640
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: back on the west side with Emery and and then

1641
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: I left from there. But you know, everybody, y'all, pull

1642
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: the chairman. What the fund is, y'all? What is y'all?

1643
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 1: What is that? Y'all? You see that, y'all you're talking about? Yeah, y'all,

1644
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: so so so the thing is right, Yes for me. Yes,

1645
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: there was no internet when I went to jail. I'm

1646
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 1: going after so when I came home in I'm not

1647
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: ninety two thousand three September, I saw the Internet and

1648
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, this ship is not just. And then

1649
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 1: I saw cameras everywhere. I'm like them, you can't do

1650
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: nothing to nobody. Different different places and it depending on

1651
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 1: the type of person you are. It kind of makes

1652
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: you a better person because you have restraints. Yeah right,

1653
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I got road range. I like throwing shut out my car,

1654
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 1: chase people. You know, but you're on camera. Very true.

1655
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: You see all these kids like Takashi six nine, all

1656
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: these guys open and shutcase because you're in front of camera.

1657
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: They do everything. And there's a time where we didn't

1658
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: have cameras. Hell yeah right, And if they solved the crime,

1659
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 1: it was a rat. Now they got the rat and

1660
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 1: the footage and the rats kind of like a cool

1661
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool, like you know what I'm gonna,

1662
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. That's that's all about a game.

1663
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 1: This situation a couple of a couple of weeks ago.

1664
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm talking about cameras. I came up with the same era.

1665
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 1: No cameras, no fucking Instagram, no my Space, no, none

1666
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 1: of that. Ship. I was probably in the same clubs.

1667
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 1: This guy was in Okay and dollarge you. He looked

1668
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: at you. Look. I'm telling he was very familiar. Man

1669
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: from I ain't gonna out of you, listen. I was

1670
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 1: I was at that time. I was I was running

1671
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: around with my man Boomer Boom Brooklyn Yeah boomay guy

1672
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: was he was he was, he was? No I had

1673
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 1: one here. I don't know, No, I got pat bad,

1674
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: I decided. Yeah. I was always running with my man Boomer.

1675
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: He had my back. He it was back then we

1676
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 1: used to call him the wolves and all of this

1677
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,600
Speaker 1: and all that. Those guys were not sucking around, not

1678
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 1: sucking around. I was in the club with a backpack

1679
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: with a bunch of gold diamonds, all bunch of ships

1680
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: in there. I'm telling you, you look familiar. Bro, What

1681
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 1: did I do? What are you saying that? I like,

1682
01:51:51,479 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: you're happy, but he's taking it. I wasn't envy at

1683
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: one point I was. I think flex was DJ. I

1684
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: don't remember club envy. Yeah, like and two thousand two

1685
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: looks so crazy. Hen the people that embrace it, the

1686
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: people let's embrace it. That's like, what were you gonna say?

1687
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: Two times and two I was in jail. It wasn't.

1688
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't staying. Wasn't you just saying you

1689
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: look a million? Wasn't. I'm not saying it wasn't me.

1690
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he said nothing that happened but nothing happened.

1691
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what I'm saying. I was in there,

1692
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: and I don't know it was they were for they

1693
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: were scared, but I was in there because they were like, yo, bro,

1694
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 1: you need to go upstairs to the DJ booth. Remember

1695
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 1: remember it was the top. You weren't home. Did it

1696
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 1: end making you go to the DJ booth? It made

1697
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 1: me go up to the DJ. They're like your stayment' here,

1698
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: don't sucking move. What happened? This is the young kid.

1699
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 1: I didn't understand was on one would happen? Flex Flex

1700
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 1: wanted some ship and I was whatever, you know, But

1701
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 1: still when he was saying, but the whole instagram and

1702
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,560
Speaker 1: the whole flexing and all of this, and I'm not

1703
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: that guy either. If you see my Instagram, meby I'll

1704
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: put the picture here and there myself. But I would

1705
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 1: never ever say yeah I did this, Yeah I did that.

1706
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 1: If you know, you know, but you get a lot

1707
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: of constable good. But if you know, you know, you

1708
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know I did that. No, No, because I did

1709
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: that because you know, some people didn't just not their

1710
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 1: names obviously, but some people didn't love to move around

1711
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: in funny ways. And you gotta games man, Come hum,

1712
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: you're here. Hell, you're not doing that. I'm not doing that.

1713
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not lit at the end of the

1714
01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: day when it's very it's somehow because right now, you know,

1715
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the error of the jewelry and

1716
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Definitely not mad, definitely not because you

1717
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 1: gotta roll with the times, can I ask it? Because

1718
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people came from the Collie, Yes,

1719
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 1: the Cable queens, the queens now, mom, bro, I'm about

1720
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: the fun. Please make sure my father didn't crash. But

1721
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 1: the quez But they district now, because that's why they

1722
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: want to be at the end of that. Me obviously,

1723
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: I want to get out of the Fifth Avenue. You

1724
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: ain't going to get your Dimond District story there now. Yes,

1725
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to go in. It's just ninety eight.

1726
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: I was my nineteen. I just signed a huge deal

1727
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: with Sylvia Ron right, So that's good. I know something

1728
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 1: and I don't. I can't go to Tito because he's

1729
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: not right, right, because I think right. So I go

1730
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: to my cousin Tom because Tito is telling ye, he's telling.

1731
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 1: So I go to my cousin Don Pool, and I'm like, yo,

1732
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: I need you to take me to Jacob. I don't

1733
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 1: know him, but if he knows you, right, he'll deal

1734
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 1: with me. Correct, because I heard that he wasn't dumb pool. Yeah,

1735
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: right the way he just said that. So he brings

1736
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: me there. I pick out some ear rings. I give

1737
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: him a d A hunted. Right. I go to jail.

1738
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 1: A year later, somebody came to visit me wearing them

1739
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 1: and I'm looking. I'm like, damn, where you got them?

1740
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: Stones from? There? Yellow? And they're like, these are yours.

1741
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, those ain't mine. And they're like, no, these

1742
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 1: are your stones. And I'm looking, going, those ain't mine?

1743
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: There Yellow said they turned yellow one day? Right, he

1744
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: already only say you already know? Right. So now I

1745
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of time left. I want to get

1746
01:55:52,960 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 1: out that day. Don't wait now I come home. It's

1747
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 1: not even on my mind anymore. Five years later, right,

1748
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 1: I get with Dame. We're back and forth to Beverly Hills, right,

1749
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: private jetting Right, We're in a party and Beverly Hills

1750
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 1: at this place called Teddy's, right, and Quincy Jones is there.

1751
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: Dame is talking to Quincy uh Sonia lady. Then Quincy's

1752
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 1: daughters right, and I'm just off to the side by myself.

1753
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom, broom. I stopped at the drink.

1754
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: Who actually here, right? I get me and come out

1755
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 1: and get me a drink. I'm at the bar. Jacob

1756
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 1: and his wife walks out next to me, and I

1757
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 1: look and I'm like, yo, what's up? And he's like, hey,

1758
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: how are you doing next? You don't remember me? And

1759
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 1: he's like nah, I said, Yo, motherfucker, you sold me

1760
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: laser treat stones. They were lazy and treated. You know

1761
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: about this. After a year they turned a color, not after.

1762
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 1: It depends if you put if you put heat on them,

1763
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: they turned a certain color. I've never heard of this

1764
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: ship's clar getting a lot of money, and it's does

1765
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean, it doesn't mean they're fake it. It's

1766
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: listen to me when when the let's say that those

1767
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: like um, the original ones would call saying right, that's

1768
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 1: why he paid eighty eight hundred at that time, because

1769
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: it still considers diamonds. I'm just I don't out of

1770
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 1: the earth same way, which is laser clear stones. I'm

1771
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: in jail. They turned yellow. I got a problem I

1772
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: ain't buy yellow stones and he acts like he yellow

1773
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 1: is good. And you know if you buy him white

1774
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: and them, that's problem. Problem. Maybe it went up and

1775
01:57:55,760 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 1: so now so Dane walks up and so I grab him.

1776
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, broney, when I get back eight eight hundred,

1777
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: ain't nothing to Dame at the time, right. So he's like,

1778
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 1: you're showing what happen. I said, listen to mind your business.

1779
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 1: I got him right, yeah, And he looks at Dame.

1780
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I don't even know who this guy is. Motherfucker.

1781
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 1: You know me, right, And I pull him close and

1782
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: Dame separates us. I'm like, yo, when I get back

1783
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: to New York, I'm coming to your office. Right after that,

1784
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 1: he gets locked up with the BMF cage. I hate

1785
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 1: only someone on that day too. She was a story.

1786
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a story about a lot. I never listen.

1787
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 1: Never said that unless you said it's I have a

1788
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: story about I don't call up because you can't beat me.

1789
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't even like I just want to. I'm gonna

1790
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 1: tell you the truth when you want. Like one of them,

1791
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: like like fake Richard Miller's that he got he got

1792
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 1: like Jake It's like I was in Atlanta at the

1793
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: time when b m from these guys, I meet you

1794
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 1: throwing hunts in the crowd. Literally when they're throwing a

1795
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: couple of very serious They took hundreds of hundreds, like

1796
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: literally a lot of them in the place in the street. Yeah,

1797
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: in the Atlanta sucking cars. They never came to you.

1798
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm came there, the pro come to stand

1799
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I'm like, yo, who the fuck

1800
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 1: is that? Let me mind you. At that time, it

1801
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 1: was only Jacob had no competition for good thing myself.

1802
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 1: I come seventeen eighteens old right across the street from him,

1803
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 1: and we're banging back and forth. We're going nuts. My

1804
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 1: mom isn't there making sure everything straight because I'm traveling

1805
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: all over the place. I'm everywhere. I'm the land, don't

1806
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 1: hear it. There. I get to Atlanta, somebody was like, Yo,

1807
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 1: you gotta go to eight. There's this fucking crew that's

1808
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 1: getting stupid money like you talking. At that time, Jeezy

1809
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: was just popped off with the whole He had that

1810
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: song as a part of that. Yeah, So I'm like, alright, cool, whatever,

1811
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: let's go down. I have to take my man, my

1812
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 1: man Boom out of Money. Probably heard of him or now, okay,

1813
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 1: there you go. I mean Boof comes with me from Brooklyn.

1814
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 1: It's Brooklyn guy. You know everybody these guys. So I

1815
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 1: grew up and started city by the way, I know, okay,

1816
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 1: playing together. So I'm like, let's go down there. We

1817
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: go down it and we just go with the place out.

1818
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, we're just seeing what's going on. Who's you know,

1819
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 1: what's one who got money? You know, I'm dude like

1820
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: at that time, you know, I'm popping off, and there's

1821
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: there's what I mean, there's a there's there's a lot

1822
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: of Jewlan Peaple. They're just a bunch of bulls seas

1823
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna get into He's right, son,

1824
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:48,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that. Because so I go in there,

1825
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like this guy because he's his

1826
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 1: guy in his world, and I feel like I'm the

1827
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 1: guy in my world. Here's what I'm saying. So and

1828
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, all the guy and I'm not with all

1829
02:00:58,040 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 1: the incident. I'm gonna come up and smack the ship out.

1830
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,440
Speaker 1: And basically, so whatever we were down there, we're down

1831
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: there and I see these guys, they bring me up

1832
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 1: to their v I P. Bro. Bro, they're fucking should

1833
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 1: bmm yo. They're fucking throwing crazy money everywhere, literally crazy

1834
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: money everywhere. All the dudes that you know, trying to

1835
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, spend some money, just embarrass themselves, like just

1836
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:25,160
Speaker 1: go home, bro, go home. So somebody just comes up

1837
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 1: there like, yo, you know we my main boom was

1838
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 1: going around talking letting them know I'm here. So somehow

1839
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 1: a day or two day work gets to them, and

1840
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 1: I think each wanted some crazy ship, some literally crazy ship.

1841
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, get out of here, bro, Like yeah, are

1842
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 1: you talking about bro? He's like how much? So five million?

1843
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: All right? I mean some breads, like stay here. A

1844
02:01:55,720 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: couple of days fucking guys the funk out of him

1845
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:06,839
Speaker 1: from look, I'm gonna go. You're lucky, hey, bro, yeah, Bro, Seriously,

1846
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 1: they came out of with fucking bags, two of them

1847
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:18,760
Speaker 1: just sized to his table, a little smiller about right

1848
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: here for the versh You're lucky. I call him up.

1849
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:29,240
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I was eighteen nineteen, y'all, what

1850
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 1: are we doing. Get the funk out of there now,

1851
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: you're lucky. Get the funk out of him now I

1852
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't have even said that on camera. You lucky whatever.

1853
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: He's been eighteen and nineteen for a lot of these,

1854
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of it happened in that timeframe,

1855
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 1: that eighteen nineteen. All in that go to the bathroom

1856
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 1: because Joe Crack I love him to death. Joe Crack

1857
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 1: told me when we're at Jimmy's uptime. Remember he told

1858
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 1: me that, yo game, if I would you or not,

1859
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 1: you're motherfucker you gonna make it because you got it.

1860
02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: I see it in you, and I was he was.

1861
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 1: I was the second only jeweler he ever fun with,

1862
02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 1: beside Jacob. He cut me that fucking one checking. I

1863
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 1: mean like seven or eight t S pieces back in

1864
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 1: the days you made the pieces like can make sure.

1865
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:31,200
Speaker 1: So I gotta pit so bad, so very interest. Let

1866
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: me just give you the track. So uh I've been doing.

1867
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: You know, I was personal training for twenty two years, right,

1868
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 1: getting people in shape, talk about it, and then I

1869
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 1: started designing meal plans for people to stop going to

1870
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: get off the medication. All that ship fun the Jim,

1871
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 1: fuck your trainers, the Jim definitely. But you sent me

1872
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 1: my meal plan that I designed. You can sit and

1873
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 1: watch TV and lose weight. Oh right, and I've been

1874
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:12,720
Speaker 1: selling it on Instagram, right, So, and I'm saying this

1875
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 1: because right a friend of yours told me to tell

1876
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 1: you what's up. He's down twenty pounds off the mail plan,

1877
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 1: and I gave him the meal plan and he sends

1878
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 1: me these right, so he said, when you see them, said,

1879
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:37,760
Speaker 1: what's up? Maya? Maya sends me a video every morning

1880
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: and he says how many pounds that he lost off

1881
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 1: the mail plan. I'm gonna call him tomorrow and I'm black, nigger.

1882
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: You're not sneaky at all at all. No, no, no,

1883
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 1: you don't tell keep talking this, nigga. Listen. This is

1884
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 1: probably the only guests we know that new Biggie and Tupo. Alright,

1885
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 1: go take your piss. I gotta see that. I'll be

1886
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: right back. This is what I want to know. Tell

1887
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:24,960
Speaker 1: me heavy D stories, alright. So I met Have probably

1888
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 1: while hanging out of Uptown. He's the first person that

1889
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 1: ever showed me love. Was he an executive Uptown ever?

1890
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 1: Because it seemed like he was bringing in all the artists.

1891
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 1: Have was around from the beginning, and he was the

1892
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 1: first person in Andre's air. So Andre was to see

1893
02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 1: Andre Herrel was the CEO from uptown and he always

1894
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: listened to Have. Didn't Have helped bring Big into the picture,

1895
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 1: I know, pub but I'm saying Blue Funkle is the

1896
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 1: first time I heard Big serious. Have told Andre, you

1897
02:05:56,520 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: need to hire this kid, Oh daddy. So he brought puffings,

1898
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 1: He brought puffed in. Puff did everything else. So everything

1899
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:10,879
Speaker 1: that came from Puff initially came from helf. So whatever

1900
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:15,879
Speaker 1: Puff had access to was automatically given to Have because

1901
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 1: of who Have was. So Have was like the matriarch

1902
02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: of uptown m C. A coolest motherfucker. Everybody loved him. Actors,

1903
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:32,200
Speaker 1: old people, young people, all the appeal to everybody. You know.

1904
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:37,839
Speaker 1: So in Mount Vernon, all of the gangsters, all the dogs,

1905
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:41,920
Speaker 1: the young guns, right, they all hung out at Have's house.

1906
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: They ate food. We worked out right, and Have was

1907
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:50,960
Speaker 1: a mama's boy, So Have really never left his parents.

1908
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,200
Speaker 1: In dwite minds, he never mama's boys. Not far from

1909
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 1: cribby everybody in Curvy as a MoMA, right, So Have

1910
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 1: never left the next so he did over the whole house.

1911
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that as a Cuban person with carib

1912
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 1: and the basement was have ship. So I used to

1913
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 1: get up every morning, drive from Brooklyn over the Mont

1914
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 1: burning and work out with them in the basement. So

1915
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 1: Have had the remember the young guns. Okay, so not

1916
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 1: to be confused with it can be confused with Philly

1917
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: young guns because because young Chris is out here right,

1918
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 1: everybody not young Christmen way before that. But in my

1919
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:32,480
Speaker 1: mind right, so see young Chris or ly I don't

1920
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 1: I know that doesn't make sense. I don't know really.

1921
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 1: So Have was the person in Mount Vernon that everybody

1922
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 1: went to for advice. Ever did yep? And he would

1923
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: tell you what to do, what not to do? Have

1924
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 1: put puffy on, Niko Barrows? Are you from you? From

1925
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 1: every Paris? I went everybody? Really, if you're a real,

1926
02:08:01,800 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 1: if you're a real. So now at the time, A

1927
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 1: Z the Wrapper is calling my house every day. He

1928
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 1: got everywhere. No, no, no, I'm telling you good. It

1929
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:26,880
Speaker 1: was good. It was you, didn't you right? Not a

1930
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,480
Speaker 1: lot of you do come from Brooklyn. You got him? Know?

1931
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 1: So Z is calling my house every day, wrapping on

1932
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 1: the phone. He's wrapping before before he's not Yeah, because

1933
02:08:44,320 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 1: one of his cousins was living in my neighbors. He

1934
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 1: used to always come and stay summers, right, and that's

1935
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 1: how I know him. So he's calling my phone every day,

1936
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:58,200
Speaker 1: wrapping rap I mean wrapping to the point I put

1937
02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:01,120
Speaker 1: the phone down. I'm like, yo, I'm hello hello. He's

1938
02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,840
Speaker 1: still still going and my blood it was the same

1939
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 1: business ins and just got a little. So I'm like, listen,

1940
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm in, but I'm not in. I could put you on,

1941
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:29,800
Speaker 1: but I really can't put you. But I have an idea.

1942
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 1: I call has his best friend Dio, evenber deal. I

1943
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:42,640
Speaker 1: called Damien Blighting hes right hand man. You ever seen

1944
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 1: have you always seen a tall dolskin ball guy with him?

1945
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 1: He was the best. Okay, I call him. I'm like,

1946
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 1: I got a guy that you need to meet. And

1947
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's really good. I'm saucing it up right,

1948
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 1: and you you took him a heavy dal or Damie

1949
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 1: Dio And he's like, all right. I sent him the number.

1950
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:16,800
Speaker 1: He calls a Zy invites him to my learning Pete

1951
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 1: Rock is really not heavy. These blood cousin what No

1952
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: heavy's ruin us. I'm telling you, listen, you want to

1953
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:30,360
Speaker 1: know the truth, I'm gonna tell you the truth. Come on, man,

1954
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 1: half said that Pete Rock was his cousin because it

1955
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: would make a smooth transition. So if you light have

1956
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: you're donna like his cousin and he's doing fire beats,

1957
02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 1: right Pete, there you go. So Pete Pete Rocket. So

1958
02:10:56,640 --> 02:11:02,280
Speaker 1: so he hooks up with Easy brings a Zy to

1959
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:07,600
Speaker 1: Pete Rocks basement. Mm hmm. Pete Rock is doing tracks

1960
02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 1: for nas first album, Illmatic. You're gonna tell me Pete

1961
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 1: Rock if you do some Nas to Ezy. Damien Deal

1962
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 1: introduced Pete Rock to a Zy. Pete Rock is doing

1963
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:26,280
Speaker 1: tracks for Nas' first album. That's how Nas meets a Zy.

1964
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:32,480
Speaker 1: He kind of just tell you that. So now now look,

1965
02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 1: you're not about to tell him that. That's the way.

1966
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:40,520
Speaker 1: So now that's how as he got on NAS's first album.

1967
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:45,120
Speaker 1: Now it's here over Easter, New York. Even Queen's Bread

1968
02:11:46,800 --> 02:11:56,440
Speaker 1: story right. Cool. So now I just did the introduction

1969
02:11:56,520 --> 02:12:00,960
Speaker 1: and I backed out of it right to day. When

1970
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:02,920
Speaker 1: you meet an artist and you're like, wow, I could

1971
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:04,680
Speaker 1: make a bunch of money from let me sign them.

1972
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:11,680
Speaker 1: That wasn't my thing. Cool, they meet and then history happens.

1973
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:16,400
Speaker 1: Right a couple of years ago, they do a documentary

1974
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 1: on a Zy. I said, let me watch. So I

1975
02:12:20,720 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 1: watched the ship. There's no mention of me, and I'm like,

1976
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:29,040
Speaker 1: that's not how they met. So I go on social

1977
02:12:29,080 --> 02:12:31,320
Speaker 1: media and I'm like, Yo, what kind of bullshit is this?

1978
02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:35,080
Speaker 1: That's not what happened. There wasn't no elaborate I was

1979
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:39,200
Speaker 1: a big hustler and he that's bullshit. So I I

1980
02:12:39,400 --> 02:12:41,440
Speaker 1: reach our tag everybody, I'm like, yeah, what kind of

1981
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:48,280
Speaker 1: sucking is this? Yeah? And Do goes He's telling that's

1982
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 1: how we met, and that's how a Zy got on

1983
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:56,400
Speaker 1: os album. You know, So keep it a hunted, you

1984
02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't want no money, but

1985
02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 1: god damn, listen. I negotiated Buster Rhymes solo contract, of course,

1986
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 1: outside the leaders of the New School when he went solo.

1987
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 1: You a Buster right now? Great because you negotiated. Because

1988
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:19,800
Speaker 1: the thing is, when you came into Wrap back in

1989
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:23,440
Speaker 1: the days, right, it was a lot of people, you know,

1990
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people wasn't getting money. You got a deal,

1991
02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 1: but that didn't mean you made money. And it's crazy.

1992
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:35,280
Speaker 1: My lawyer then is my lawyer now? She just text me, right,

1993
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:39,960
Speaker 1: she said, get the funk out of there. Same lawyer. Right,

1994
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: So Buster rhymes, cousin, he's on my case, kid I

1995
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:52,280
Speaker 1: grew up with. So that's how Buster ended up the movie.

1996
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:54,440
Speaker 1: He said, cousins on your case. I don't know if

1997
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,720
Speaker 1: that means that it's just leave it at that. No, no, no,

1998
02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 1: no no no. Letna explained we grew up together. So

1999
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:05,720
Speaker 1: busters parents got a divorce, one went to Long Island,

2000
02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:09,280
Speaker 1: one stayed in Brooklyn, so that's how he's from a

2001
02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:12,320
Speaker 1: Long Island, and then his father stayed in Brooklyn. His

2002
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:19,760
Speaker 1: father just passed, right, So I get a deal. The

2003
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 1: way my deal was structured, I got paid before the

2004
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:32,520
Speaker 1: record was made, baseball contract. I respect that bad. So

2005
02:14:32,680 --> 02:14:35,800
Speaker 1: I drive up. I drive up on Troy and Church

2006
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:37,520
Speaker 1: where we used to all hang out in the corner, right,

2007
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:40,920
Speaker 1: and these flatbush. I got Mary J. Blige with me

2008
02:14:41,960 --> 02:15:01,680
Speaker 1: and Buster. Buster. I don't know this guy. I never

2009
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 1: smoked weed, right, So you know, I drive up on

2010
02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:10,840
Speaker 1: the block with Mary, right, and you got some guys

2011
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:13,520
Speaker 1: that Buster grew up with that was hustling on the

2012
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:18,880
Speaker 1: corner Try and Church, flat bust flattery respect and he's

2013
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:22,640
Speaker 1: a funny mother for that. So this is the first

2014
02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:26,480
Speaker 1: time they saw my car I'm not gonna lie. I

2015
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:29,640
Speaker 1: think Buster told me this story. I'm not gonna like

2016
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 1: so Buster, Buster split right, I grew up with His

2017
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 1: name is Willie Right and Willie so these are your

2018
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:45,640
Speaker 1: I drive up and it's the first time they see

2019
02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 1: me with jury, the first time you seen my car.

2020
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 1: And then I got married with me. So Busters like

2021
02:15:51,800 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 1: stuck and Mary's already married, first single. The Mary is

2022
02:15:56,400 --> 02:16:06,960
Speaker 1: never at that time, which is already So she gets

2023
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:09,080
Speaker 1: out the car and she's in the bus stop with them.

2024
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:12,280
Speaker 1: She don't know what's going on. Yeh, she don't know

2025
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 1: what's going on. And you know, I get out the

2026
02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 1: car and we're talking. Buster pulls me to the side.

2027
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, how the fuck you got all of this?

2028
02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:23,920
Speaker 1: I got videos on TV. I have none of this.

2029
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:27,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it depends on how your deal instruction.

2030
02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what's going on with you,

2031
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:33,320
Speaker 1: but I'll be back tomorrow and we'll sit down and

2032
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,680
Speaker 1: just be transparent and tell me everything that's going on,

2033
02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:40,960
Speaker 1: and I'll fix your ship. Next day. I pull up,

2034
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:44,000
Speaker 1: we're sitting in the car and I'm like, all right, cool,

2035
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna link you with this attorney I call her.

2036
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,119
Speaker 1: She just text me. I called Denise Brown. I'm like, listen,

2037
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:56,439
Speaker 1: bust the Rounds with childhood friend of mine. He's on Electra,

2038
02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 1: I need you to fix your ship and he's on solo.

2039
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:04,360
Speaker 1: M that's what he's going in the school, right. So

2040
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:08,240
Speaker 1: he's beefing with Charlie Brown at the time and they're

2041
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:12,680
Speaker 1: having a lot of internal turmoil, right, But he's the guy.

2042
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:15,720
Speaker 1: So this is why he was plumped for the scenario

2043
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:20,640
Speaker 1: remixing only at the time. Yes, yeah, so he was

2044
02:17:20,720 --> 02:17:28,000
Speaker 1: just he was so at the time. How many things drop?

2045
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:33,920
Speaker 1: So hooked up with Denise Brown, who was a friend

2046
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:41,680
Speaker 1: of Sylvia Round who spareheaded Electra, negotiated his solo deal,

2047
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:45,560
Speaker 1: gave him a solo contract, gave him a bag, he

2048
02:17:45,680 --> 02:17:50,240
Speaker 1: bought his first car, and that's how he was partner. No,

2049
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:55,640
Speaker 1: it was a forerunner, and that's how he went solo

2050
02:17:55,760 --> 02:18:00,280
Speaker 1: and got on his way right. So, so, but between

2051
02:18:00,400 --> 02:18:03,360
Speaker 1: him and A Z and stuff like that, I've always

2052
02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:06,120
Speaker 1: been integral behind the scenes. If you're my man, and

2053
02:18:06,200 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 1: I know he said, listen, let me tell you something.

2054
02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:12,280
Speaker 1: This is a real nigga right here. He stepped up

2055
02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:14,800
Speaker 1: like I was trying to do something. And he stepped

2056
02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:17,880
Speaker 1: up and he just did it without any of coopocations.

2057
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:20,280
Speaker 1: He don't he don't care that he's a good nigger

2058
02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:22,280
Speaker 1: like I want to. I want to. I want to.

2059
02:18:25,160 --> 02:18:28,480
Speaker 1: Every eye the nigger just stuffed up and it just

2060
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 1: was there and and it told me like I'll be

2061
02:18:31,080 --> 02:18:37,840
Speaker 1: in the back north like that. Tom. I'm sorry not

2062
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:41,400
Speaker 1: to interject. Here's the thing, right, yes, please, if you

2063
02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:44,840
Speaker 1: are going to give somebody something, and this is for

2064
02:18:44,959 --> 02:18:49,920
Speaker 1: everybody in the room, be a cheerful giver. What if

2065
02:18:49,959 --> 02:18:52,720
Speaker 1: they take give him hire Listen, that's not if you're

2066
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 1: giving something, it's like no one can take. They come

2067
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 1: and take it. Listen, I feel like they did something.

2068
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:01,440
Speaker 1: Listen here giving pay what I'm saying, Hey, what I'm saying.

2069
02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:05,560
Speaker 1: If you're a cheerful giver, you give from of course,

2070
02:19:06,640 --> 02:19:09,200
Speaker 1: and you're not worried about what's coming back because there's

2071
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 1: no string on it. And if I give it to you,

2072
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:17,119
Speaker 1: it's yours and whether or not you accepted, accepted, give

2073
02:19:17,160 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 1: it back, return to favor. That's on you is offered me.

2074
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 1: I gave you and it came from a good place,

2075
02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:25,200
Speaker 1: and I'm good, and God will deal with you. Later

2076
02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:27,920
Speaker 1: whether you were right or wrong. And that's just what

2077
02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:33,360
Speaker 1: it is. So pull me when I all right, So

2078
02:19:33,680 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 1: pull me right. You could say many things, many things

2079
02:19:38,360 --> 02:19:41,800
Speaker 1: have been said, but up until this point, I've been blessed.

2080
02:19:42,400 --> 02:19:45,920
Speaker 1: I have no problems. I'm cool. I'll be fifty on

2081
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:56,120
Speaker 1: Saturday where I got fire say so. So, my thing is,

2082
02:19:56,840 --> 02:20:00,880
Speaker 1: we didn't grow up from the sandbox. We met on

2083
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:06,560
Speaker 1: the fucking phone and we connected and we've been great

2084
02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:11,959
Speaker 1: ever since since, because that's what it is. But I'm

2085
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I'll be honest. I just because I

2086
02:20:14,600 --> 02:20:16,800
Speaker 1: want to pick him up, because I know he's like

2087
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:20,120
Speaker 1: a humble guy. But when I would went to the

2088
02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:24,680
Speaker 1: to the back seeing the same show I've seen you at,

2089
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:27,440
Speaker 1: and I've seen him like, he's like you, what's something?

2090
02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:34,080
Speaker 1: Nor something? They're gonna look it, said wirt Sean. But

2091
02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:36,880
Speaker 1: he looked and I was like, oh ship, I'm not

2092
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:41,160
Speaker 1: a booker. Nigger may get to see. But that's but see,

2093
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:44,000
Speaker 1: the thing is before y'all actually see each other, and

2094
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:46,280
Speaker 1: then you see each other, right, And I didn't know

2095
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:48,760
Speaker 1: you were there. I was there, so we see me after.

2096
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:52,080
Speaker 1: So when I got to the section, see you guys,

2097
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:57,160
Speaker 1: gotta understand right for me, I haven't been around years time.

2098
02:20:58,360 --> 02:21:02,040
Speaker 1: I want to describe this situation like jay Z really

2099
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:07,200
Speaker 1: wanted to see this name. No, that's serious, that's serious.

2100
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm out there and Jay we were hitting each other

2101
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:12,760
Speaker 1: like I hit him a little time, like it's okay.

2102
02:21:12,959 --> 02:21:16,879
Speaker 1: But he really wanted to go back to his Brooklyn

2103
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:20,360
Speaker 1: roots and be with this nig like I kick you nup,

2104
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 1: kick you not. You know what I used to always say,

2105
02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:24,880
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this right. I used to always

2106
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:27,960
Speaker 1: tell Jay, So you're here about five State Street. We

2107
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:31,320
Speaker 1: used to be there every evening before we go hang out.

2108
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 1: So when Clark introduced Dame to Ja, we would gather

2109
02:21:35,879 --> 02:21:38,199
Speaker 1: all the Brooklyn guys and then we'll go to city

2110
02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:40,320
Speaker 1: and Dame have all this hometown guys and we would

2111
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:43,200
Speaker 1: meet in midtown and party. And I used to always

2112
02:21:43,240 --> 02:21:48,160
Speaker 1: tell Ja, you are the best rapper that nobody has

2113
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:52,640
Speaker 1: ever heard of as of yet. So one day he

2114
02:21:52,760 --> 02:21:56,200
Speaker 1: calls me, wakes me about my sleep. I'm like, what up.

2115
02:21:56,720 --> 02:21:58,320
Speaker 1: He's like, I woke you and I'll call you back.

2116
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:00,600
Speaker 1: So now I'm up. What's up? He's said, Yo, man,

2117
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:04,280
Speaker 1: do you have any connections with radio? Because I'm waiting

2118
02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:06,840
Speaker 1: for Dame to get me a meeting and I haven't

2119
02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:09,480
Speaker 1: heard anything. It's been two weeks. I said, well, yeah,

2120
02:22:09,959 --> 02:22:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm on regular rotation with Don Perion at the time

2121
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:15,640
Speaker 1: of Hot ninety seven. What you need he said, Yo,

2122
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:18,960
Speaker 1: I would like a meeting. It's like cool, but you

2123
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:21,360
Speaker 1: have to drive. By time you get to my house

2124
02:22:21,800 --> 02:22:27,560
Speaker 1: from Mossy. I'll be dressed, but you drive and I'll

2125
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:31,879
Speaker 1: bring you up there. Him be high and I want

2126
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:37,680
Speaker 1: to say, Bleak drove that white gs. So my house

2127
02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:42,040
Speaker 1: picked me up. We went to Hot ninety seven. We

2128
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:46,960
Speaker 1: walked in. I never went there and asked anybody to

2129
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:50,560
Speaker 1: play my record. Ever, I've never asked the DJ to

2130
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:53,440
Speaker 1: do anything for me. Never. I didn't care about that.

2131
02:22:53,440 --> 02:22:56,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted money, Like fuck all that other ship,

2132
02:22:56,560 --> 02:23:00,280
Speaker 1: give me the check. So we get there. The program

2133
02:23:00,400 --> 02:23:05,400
Speaker 1: director with Tracy Clardy remember her exactly so you know

2134
02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 1: where she's at now, have no idea. She's running via

2135
02:23:09,320 --> 02:23:20,600
Speaker 1: common BT all that site and this white lady change smoking, lunatic,

2136
02:23:21,360 --> 02:23:24,840
Speaker 1: but cool as a motherfucker. She's stamped. It is done.

2137
02:23:25,720 --> 02:23:28,840
Speaker 1: She created all that Speer ship for BT all Award

2138
02:23:28,879 --> 02:23:33,279
Speaker 1: shows right cool walk in her office I'm like, Tracy,

2139
02:23:33,879 --> 02:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I've never been here. I never I was messing with

2140
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:39,040
Speaker 1: one of her friends at the time. I said, I've

2141
02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 1: never been here and asked you for anything. I said,

2142
02:23:41,200 --> 02:23:46,280
Speaker 1: but this guy, he's the one they took ja. I said,

2143
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:49,640
Speaker 1: you gotta play his record, and they got a bag

2144
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:55,160
Speaker 1: for you. Take the fucking back. The following two days later,

2145
02:23:57,640 --> 02:24:02,960
Speaker 1: the radio Tracy, if need be, let me say that

2146
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:08,720
Speaker 1: right as a disclaimed. Okay, So Tracy is sitting there

2147
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:12,320
Speaker 1: and she didn't see anything. She's like, damn, you've never

2148
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:15,680
Speaker 1: even asked me for anything for you. He must be

2149
02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:20,480
Speaker 1: somebody important. Two days later, it was my birthday. We

2150
02:24:20,520 --> 02:24:24,359
Speaker 1: resent the Playum, I can't find the picture me, Bigs,

2151
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:28,920
Speaker 1: Dame Jay and everybody they fucked with and Tracy right.

2152
02:24:29,440 --> 02:24:31,480
Speaker 1: So j is like, yo, what can I do for you?

2153
02:24:31,560 --> 02:24:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm like nothing, Get me a bottle of crystal. I

2154
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,080
Speaker 1: don't know it was my birthday. You want the bottle

2155
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:41,959
Speaker 1: of crystal? Way, they're getting drunk cool. Three days later,

2156
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:48,880
Speaker 1: presidents to represent me regular rotation. Prior to that, it

2157
02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:51,840
Speaker 1: was Battle of the Beats, Remember Battle of the Beats.

2158
02:24:52,959 --> 02:24:59,160
Speaker 1: But he said right. So that's how Jay initially got

2159
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:03,600
Speaker 1: on the radio. But let's let's be Claire, because I'm

2160
02:25:03,800 --> 02:25:07,400
Speaker 1: so respect you tell us the Jay start, but let's

2161
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:12,760
Speaker 1: be Claire, the person that's sad. Your name, Biggie, Oh,

2162
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:15,320
Speaker 1: let me tell you why there was a reason. So

2163
02:25:15,720 --> 02:25:18,560
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go there that you're talking about party

2164
02:25:18,600 --> 02:25:23,200
Speaker 1: and bullshit party and that was his first record. Right.

2165
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:26,880
Speaker 1: So there was a lady that worked for Uptown m

2166
02:25:26,920 --> 02:25:30,240
Speaker 1: c A. She did style and she worked right next

2167
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:34,960
Speaker 1: to Her name was Sybil Pennock. She dressed everybody on

2168
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,960
Speaker 1: Uptown m c A. Uptown m c A was like

2169
02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 1: an incubator and everybody was probably from Hallam of the Bronx,

2170
02:25:43,400 --> 02:25:45,520
Speaker 1: and then there was me and then the Lost Barts

2171
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:56,560
Speaker 1: from Queens. Right, so everybody you know that the robbery nig.

2172
02:25:58,920 --> 02:26:04,720
Speaker 1: You've been robbing people the whole episode. So now one day,

2173
02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:08,640
Speaker 1: Symbol Goals, we're in the office hanging out and this

2174
02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:10,440
Speaker 1: is what you did at Uptown XT year. You just

2175
02:26:10,560 --> 02:26:12,880
Speaker 1: hung out there every day. You listen to music, you

2176
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 1: pick beats. The studio was next door and we the

2177
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:19,760
Speaker 1: budgets were open and this is all we did. So

2178
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:24,120
Speaker 1: Symbol Goals to me and Biggie, there's a movie I

2179
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:28,320
Speaker 1: want you guys to read for. We're gonna take a

2180
02:26:28,440 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 1: cab down to this casting thing. Right, I never did

2181
02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:37,520
Speaker 1: that ship. Biggie was on Uptown. So this is before

2182
02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Puff lost his deal there and did ariston bad Boy.

2183
02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:44,720
Speaker 1: It was no bad Boy. Biggie was on Uptown. Okay,

2184
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:50,440
Speaker 1: this is before joint well around the right same time.

2185
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:55,280
Speaker 1: So now we all jump in a cab, Me, Biggie

2186
02:26:55,400 --> 02:27:00,960
Speaker 1: and Sibil. We went to this office on Broadway between

2187
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Houston and whatever. Bleaker went in this place. They gave

2188
02:27:06,320 --> 02:27:09,800
Speaker 1: us a script I don't know about read. So I'm

2189
02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:12,280
Speaker 1: looking down reading the ship. They said already, thank you.

2190
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Then Big win and did the same thing came out.

2191
02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:18,560
Speaker 1: He was like to be big the lever hip hop

2192
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:28,440
Speaker 1: before No, no, no, hes doing this ship. So so

2193
02:27:28,640 --> 02:27:34,400
Speaker 1: now that night I'm in the studio with Have Have

2194
02:27:34,720 --> 02:27:38,240
Speaker 1: is doing so for real. Forgot So I'm telling have

2195
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Yo symbol brot me to read for this movie. So

2196
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:43,880
Speaker 1: it's like word all right, So what do you think

2197
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:45,880
Speaker 1: you got the part? I'm like, nah, I was terrible,

2198
02:27:46,080 --> 02:27:51,000
Speaker 1: right Nope, So I'm like, man funk that script. Right.

2199
02:27:53,160 --> 02:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Months later the movie comes out. Have has the Heart

2200
02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:02,040
Speaker 1: that used for that that we read for what is it?

2201
02:28:02,200 --> 02:28:12,280
Speaker 1: This was New Jersey drive that deserved a party. So

2202
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:16,879
Speaker 1: now I was terrible. So the reason why Big did

2203
02:28:17,680 --> 02:28:24,119
Speaker 1: uh party and bullshit and mentioned me? But he's Puffy

2204
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:29,520
Speaker 1: brought him to the muss this way before you music

2205
02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:32,600
Speaker 1: A young, bad motherfucker. He didn't even have a business

2206
02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:37,560
Speaker 1: doing outside, right, he's outside. So it's on Canal and

2207
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:41,680
Speaker 1: West Broadway, and I got like a ninety six guys

2208
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 1: with me and we're in there and I'm getting ready

2209
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:53,680
Speaker 1: going Chris, so Puff comes to me. He's like, yo,

2210
02:28:53,840 --> 02:28:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about signing this guy. I want to see

2211
02:28:56,640 --> 02:28:59,200
Speaker 1: how he does. I want to see how he does

2212
02:28:59,240 --> 02:29:01,680
Speaker 1: in front of a cross. Do you want? I'm like,

2213
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:08,800
Speaker 1: stop please, because what you're saying, I'm being honest. It's

2214
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:10,640
Speaker 1: not for you to just be like he said this.

2215
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:14,119
Speaker 1: I wanted to stop you because what you just said

2216
02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:20,520
Speaker 1: was crack. Now set continue. So now I'm actually on

2217
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:24,840
Speaker 1: stage waiting for them to queue the that nobody moves that.

2218
02:29:26,040 --> 02:29:29,280
Speaker 1: We don't know what well not every right, the digital

2219
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:33,440
Speaker 1: dat And I'm like, puff, anything for you. He introduces

2220
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:36,920
Speaker 1: me the Big who was Biggie Smalls at the time,

2221
02:29:37,320 --> 02:29:43,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know him yet. You don't know. He

2222
02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:48,640
Speaker 1: got an orange Champion sweatshirt on camouflage pants, right, and

2223
02:29:48,760 --> 02:29:51,400
Speaker 1: I meet him, hug him. I'm like, so he's like

2224
02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:55,560
Speaker 1: he's from Brooklyn. Like word even better. He gets on stage,

2225
02:29:55,600 --> 02:30:00,040
Speaker 1: he freestyles to bismarckt Do to rap instrumental kill Is

2226
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:06,200
Speaker 1: it crazy? Right after that he did party and Bullshit

2227
02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:10,160
Speaker 1: and the record that was a thank you And we've

2228
02:30:10,200 --> 02:30:21,920
Speaker 1: been like this until he died. Whoa, yeah, what what's

2229
02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:24,520
Speaker 1: what's one of the most craziest people that just walked

2230
02:30:24,560 --> 02:30:28,400
Speaker 1: into your your fucking ship and just bust the jury?

2231
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 1: Probably bust Buster, great guy though, he just walked in

2232
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:40,240
Speaker 1: and he just bought jury. I think it was um yeah,

2233
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:42,800
Speaker 1: just like that because I think I was doing stuff

2234
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:45,640
Speaker 1: for Swizz and and you know they're tight over there.

2235
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:49,440
Speaker 1: So it's a deal. You got on you got money.

2236
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:57,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what. It's Jamaican custom. Got some blood,

2237
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:05,920
Speaker 1: that's what. Yes, No, Buster was very he's very you're

2238
02:31:05,920 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 1: all outside my ship ready, by the way, let maybe

2239
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:13,400
Speaker 1: we got that Buster My busters id issues also and

2240
02:31:13,560 --> 02:31:16,560
Speaker 1: like you said, Busters, but he does things on some

2241
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is my brother his own time. No, no, no,

2242
02:31:19,840 --> 02:31:22,560
Speaker 1: it was there was issues with you know, certain people,

2243
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:26,879
Speaker 1: a certain persum. Sorry, and you know, he found violent

2244
02:31:26,959 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 1: and he comes to the office, he's like, what the fuck.

2245
02:31:30,120 --> 02:31:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's he made it. Bro. He brace

2246
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 1: me some nuts with that. But he he called that.

2247
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:40,680
Speaker 1: He calls the guy might to his thinking bro, because

2248
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:43,480
Speaker 1: you bro, what you know? Bro? His family? Bro? What

2249
02:31:43,520 --> 02:31:45,400
Speaker 1: are you doing over here? Bro? Man go he left,

2250
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 1: dude that was shitting here and he can't say goodbye.

2251
02:31:52,879 --> 02:32:05,360
Speaker 1: God he bound job. You're right, a d But the

2252
02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:09,560
Speaker 1: thing is, at my point, right, there's a lot of

2253
02:32:09,680 --> 02:32:13,840
Speaker 1: people that have pulled strings and made things happen, and

2254
02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:17,119
Speaker 1: you'll never hear from that, right. So like when you're

2255
02:32:17,160 --> 02:32:23,080
Speaker 1: talking about Dan, Dame at a point in my life

2256
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:27,400
Speaker 1: did a lot for me. I love the guy they

2257
02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:31,120
Speaker 1: with the new Dame, I haven't. I haven't been in

2258
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:34,480
Speaker 1: touch with him in a long time, some years ago.

2259
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:41,000
Speaker 1: But the thing is Dame has some family members from

2260
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:44,240
Speaker 1: the other side, and all you know is him because

2261
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:50,160
Speaker 1: he's loud. But you know, Darren Chandler, Danny's brother Bobby

2262
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:54,680
Speaker 1: Comicide from the Bronx, like Dan got some real family members.

2263
02:32:56,440 --> 02:33:00,960
Speaker 1: About how you know about the chief you're from the bronze. Okay,

2264
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:04,840
Speaker 1: a matter fact, let me give you the chief. Let

2265
02:33:04,879 --> 02:33:09,240
Speaker 1: me that's funny. You said that's crazy. So so now

2266
02:33:10,280 --> 02:33:15,040
Speaker 1: here's the chief. The Chief is Darren's father. So in

2267
02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:26,520
Speaker 1: every family, the cousin, so Darren Chandler, he is probably

2268
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:30,080
Speaker 1: the most important person behind Dame that you'll never know

2269
02:33:30,360 --> 02:33:32,640
Speaker 1: and you will never see who he is. You won't speak.

2270
02:33:32,720 --> 02:33:35,560
Speaker 1: He's in the cannabis business now right, making a bunch

2271
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 1: of bread. He knows who he is. Right. This guy's

2272
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:48,840
Speaker 1: father was that guy for the family. So when Dame's

2273
02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:58,039
Speaker 1: mother passed, patriarch matriarch, So when when when When Dame's

2274
02:33:58,080 --> 02:34:08,640
Speaker 1: mother passed, the chief took them in his home. When

2275
02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:14,000
Speaker 1: anybody else in the family had kids that needed shelter,

2276
02:34:14,560 --> 02:34:20,640
Speaker 1: the Chief took them in as Darren's father. Dame is

2277
02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:26,760
Speaker 1: ivy league educated. Dane reads a book a day. Dame

2278
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:29,840
Speaker 1: grew up playing lacrosse. Dame is that guy. He's not

2279
02:34:29,959 --> 02:34:32,880
Speaker 1: a street guy. Hallm is the only connection to the

2280
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 1: street he has ever had because of where he lived.

2281
02:34:35,840 --> 02:34:40,920
Speaker 1: But out of that house came Darien Dash who went

2282
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:46,959
Speaker 1: into technology. Darian Stacy Dash, who's Darien's brother, who went

2283
02:34:47,040 --> 02:34:56,080
Speaker 1: on to acting to Hollywood, right, and then and then Dan.

2284
02:34:57,480 --> 02:35:04,000
Speaker 1: But all because of Darren's father, the Chief. He's the

2285
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:07,840
Speaker 1: one that took everybody out of that family that needed help.

2286
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:12,920
Speaker 1: He helped everybody. It's funny he says the Chief. Nobody's

2287
02:35:12,920 --> 02:35:17,280
Speaker 1: ever gonna say that said. Nobody in this room is

2288
02:35:17,320 --> 02:35:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna say the Chief. But that's what it is. So

2289
02:35:21,920 --> 02:35:26,240
Speaker 1: when you see Dame like Dame is loud and he's obnoxious,

2290
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:29,720
Speaker 1: he's this, he's that. He's super smart. He means he'll

2291
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:33,400
Speaker 1: give you the shirt off his battle, but his delivery

2292
02:35:33,560 --> 02:35:36,720
Speaker 1: is fucked up. It rubs people the wrong way. Great God,

2293
02:35:37,480 --> 02:35:41,920
Speaker 1: I can't take nothing from him. Great motherfucker, you know

2294
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:45,720
Speaker 1: what I mean. But his delivery rubs people the wrong way.

2295
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:50,680
Speaker 1: But his family, bro, even Dame. Dame is the one

2296
02:35:50,760 --> 02:35:52,600
Speaker 1: that took me to the boxing gym and said, yo,

2297
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:56,640
Speaker 1: anybody around me has to know how to fight. So

2298
02:35:56,800 --> 02:36:02,000
Speaker 1: everybody under Rockefeller's umbrella that ever boxed, it's because of Dame.

2299
02:36:02,120 --> 02:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Damon boxes. He was setting. So you run up on

2300
02:36:05,120 --> 02:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Dame the wrong way. He's an anti vind person. But

2301
02:36:07,959 --> 02:36:09,720
Speaker 1: you put your hands up, dam would knock you the

2302
02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:12,000
Speaker 1: funk out. I'm just telling you that's just what it is.

2303
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:14,160
Speaker 1: We had it right, and we had an issue. We

2304
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:16,879
Speaker 1: had an issue one time with At that time, Jacob

2305
02:36:16,959 --> 02:36:19,920
Speaker 1: was doing the Rock and Feller pieces, So I think

2306
02:36:20,160 --> 02:36:23,760
Speaker 1: who was Jacob at that time? At that time, I

2307
02:36:23,879 --> 02:36:27,240
Speaker 1: think Cam just signed. I think the rocket fell out

2308
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:31,200
Speaker 1: them and they made us do it. You know, you know,

2309
02:36:31,400 --> 02:36:34,480
Speaker 1: they made my family. We start making the rock, started

2310
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:36,840
Speaker 1: making the rock piece. I do what it is. It's

2311
02:36:36,879 --> 02:36:40,480
Speaker 1: on the internet. Got a piece and he comes in there.

2312
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:45,000
Speaker 1: He's fucking loudest. He's like, oh damn, that comes in

2313
02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:48,680
Speaker 1: and the off it's my cousin. YO, tell me who

2314
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:50,520
Speaker 1: made this? Tell me who told you to make this?

2315
02:36:51,200 --> 02:36:53,520
Speaker 1: He's just like pressing him in. It's on YouTube. You

2316
02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:56,200
Speaker 1: can see what I'm sitting there scoring a little cute

2317
02:36:56,240 --> 02:36:59,240
Speaker 1: like whom I had on. It was fucking I'm and

2318
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:03,800
Speaker 1: he's he's like that. He's very pressed. He's very smart.

2319
02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:07,560
Speaker 1: He is, you're very smart. The thing is, I watched

2320
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:12,120
Speaker 1: how everything unfolded and people have to move on and grow,

2321
02:37:12,680 --> 02:37:17,080
Speaker 1: and you will never know what their plight is. I'm

2322
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:18,840
Speaker 1: gonna cut you off. I'm sorry. The whole thing about

2323
02:37:19,160 --> 02:37:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off him, the whole thing

2324
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:22,960
Speaker 1: about when he's saying, just now, you've got to cut

2325
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:25,880
Speaker 1: him off and move on, and this and that. The

2326
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:28,200
Speaker 1: whole situation went at the other guys that you mentioned

2327
02:37:29,320 --> 02:37:31,560
Speaker 1: to me. You know, I was. I was very very

2328
02:37:32,080 --> 02:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I took it to the heart, you know, because my

2329
02:37:34,240 --> 02:37:37,039
Speaker 1: brother passed away. He called me, he said, Yo, I'm

2330
02:37:37,040 --> 02:37:38,880
Speaker 1: here for you. You understand what somebody dies like that

2331
02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:41,640
Speaker 1: to you, and then you're supposed to be right there

2332
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:44,160
Speaker 1: because you always would. We took you in, bring you

2333
02:37:44,360 --> 02:37:48,680
Speaker 1: everywhere and introduced you to fucking as you know, one

2334
02:37:48,720 --> 02:37:51,119
Speaker 1: of us because he wasn't one of us. We need

2335
02:37:51,200 --> 02:37:55,160
Speaker 1: you one of us, you understand. So it's it's it's

2336
02:37:55,160 --> 02:37:58,039
Speaker 1: stres a lot of money that shirt. Listen, that shirt

2337
02:37:58,120 --> 02:38:00,400
Speaker 1: costs a lot of money. I mean into the jack.

2338
02:38:00,440 --> 02:38:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a few hours. You know why,

2339
02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:04,960
Speaker 1: because I was looking for an outfit to win. I

2340
02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,400
Speaker 1: see you right, I'm going I gotta look right right,

2341
02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:09,720
Speaker 1: And I went on the deal side. I'm like, I'm

2342
02:38:09,760 --> 02:38:12,120
Speaker 1: not spending that much money for that ship. It's motherfucker's

2343
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:18,920
Speaker 1: through with Jamaican deal shirt. Let me know how you want, right, Jamaican.

2344
02:38:19,879 --> 02:38:22,560
Speaker 1: I just want to got Jamaican was talking. You have

2345
02:38:22,720 --> 02:38:26,960
Speaker 1: the Jamaican deal shirt was dropping, Bro, brother, my god,

2346
02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Jamaica Deal shirt up? How he thinking that ship? I

2347
02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:33,000
Speaker 1: don't like a honey, No, that's not ang. I don't

2348
02:38:33,040 --> 02:38:34,880
Speaker 1: know something like that. That is not an angel I

2349
02:38:34,879 --> 02:38:40,800
Speaker 1: got tom. This is a fucking three thousands. It's not Bro. Definitely,

2350
02:38:41,879 --> 02:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm back. You're right, hap that's the

2351
02:38:45,480 --> 02:38:49,960
Speaker 1: three thousand. This this whole Jamaican stuffing that happened. I

2352
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:52,240
Speaker 1: was tall years old. Woman comes into the to the

2353
02:38:52,360 --> 02:38:55,959
Speaker 1: mall holding the baby and she has the Jamaican cup shirts.

2354
02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 1: They're called nick Danzi Nickenzie. She's winning, sholding the baby her.

2355
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:03,320
Speaker 1: The bulls are sticking out like fucking bullets, and I'm like,

2356
02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm twelve. I'm like what my dad comes out of nowhere,

2357
02:39:07,280 --> 02:39:08,560
Speaker 1: hits me in the back of that. That's what the

2358
02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:12,960
Speaker 1: fund are you doing? I'm like, I'm just standing. They

2359
02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:15,879
Speaker 1: were wearing that ship just like that and the back yeah,

2360
02:39:15,920 --> 02:39:22,040
Speaker 1: but nothing the jack just three note. I promise you

2361
02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:24,440
Speaker 1: I can google for you. And then back to what

2362
02:39:24,480 --> 02:39:28,200
Speaker 1: I was saying, well, he was saying, absolutely right, and

2363
02:39:28,360 --> 02:39:31,640
Speaker 1: I learned to you know what that to go? You know,

2364
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:35,840
Speaker 1: just did you did you did you understand because you

2365
02:39:35,879 --> 02:39:40,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because because it was just funny

2366
02:39:40,160 --> 02:39:41,960
Speaker 1: how you understand guys just coming to your life and

2367
02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:45,080
Speaker 1: they just slithered their way into you know, where they

2368
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:48,320
Speaker 1: are and when they're on, slithered their way into who

2369
02:39:48,400 --> 02:39:51,000
Speaker 1: you are, into into who people think they are, into

2370
02:39:51,040 --> 02:39:52,640
Speaker 1: who they think they are even so what I'm saying

2371
02:39:52,760 --> 02:39:55,720
Speaker 1: and it's literally on you understand some other shows and

2372
02:39:56,120 --> 02:39:58,400
Speaker 1: talking about people are asking them like, Yo, how do

2373
02:39:58,440 --> 02:40:02,040
Speaker 1: you get on? You know you talk from my inner state, Yo.

2374
02:40:03,080 --> 02:40:04,640
Speaker 1: So I just want to say sorry, Sean, I just

2375
02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:07,240
Speaker 1: want to say that you're right about that Norma. You

2376
02:40:07,320 --> 02:40:09,800
Speaker 1: put good out there, and God, you're gonna get it

2377
02:40:09,879 --> 02:40:15,800
Speaker 1: right back. Nory runs five miles on the sand every morning.

2378
02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:21,199
Speaker 1: Do you know what running five miles? Listen, listen, I Knowles,

2379
02:40:21,280 --> 02:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Just listen. This motherfucker runs five miles every day on

2380
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:32,199
Speaker 1: the sand. When you have a boxing you training the boxer,

2381
02:40:32,280 --> 02:40:34,040
Speaker 1: you bring him on the sand because it makes your

2382
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:36,880
Speaker 1: feet heavy. So when you get in the ring, so

2383
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:39,760
Speaker 1: your feet are lighted from running on the sand. Look,

2384
02:40:39,840 --> 02:40:42,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's just gonna agreeve me right. So we

2385
02:40:42,680 --> 02:40:47,320
Speaker 1: connected on the phone and I'm listening to him. I

2386
02:40:48,040 --> 02:40:55,359
Speaker 1: ran five miles once with Dame by accident, right everybody,

2387
02:40:55,959 --> 02:40:59,720
Speaker 1: and I got on the phone with him and he's like,

2388
02:40:59,800 --> 02:41:03,840
Speaker 1: oh no, I run five pounds every morning on the sand.

2389
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:06,920
Speaker 1: I live in my Yet I'm like, what, I'm not

2390
02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot of us When I was, when I was

2391
02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:10,800
Speaker 1: following a lot of people, eat whatever. I work. When

2392
02:41:10,840 --> 02:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I was following a lot of people, and I stopped

2393
02:41:12,440 --> 02:41:16,200
Speaker 1: following people. You started running and you're posting the ship

2394
02:41:16,400 --> 02:41:18,320
Speaker 1: your stories and stuff. I started. I used to smoke

2395
02:41:18,360 --> 02:41:23,240
Speaker 1: cigarettes because of your because of your whole thing over there,

2396
02:41:23,400 --> 02:41:27,360
Speaker 1: you're running. I stopped. That's whore I talk. I started.

2397
02:41:29,560 --> 02:41:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, I took two stories. I'm gunn listen, but

2398
02:41:34,480 --> 02:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I love and listen. I did not get jewel from you,

2399
02:41:39,040 --> 02:41:41,879
Speaker 1: but I had a blue Points cigarette. You've ever seen

2400
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:43,520
Speaker 1: my job, so you I know you always a man.

2401
02:41:43,600 --> 02:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Stop smoking? You know that going outside the store smoking

2402
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:48,880
Speaker 1: like crazy? Coming back your five minutes, lady, I need

2403
02:41:48,879 --> 02:41:51,640
Speaker 1: to go smoke again. You know. The thing is crazy

2404
02:41:51,760 --> 02:41:53,880
Speaker 1: with with you and I were connected on the phone.

2405
02:41:54,280 --> 02:41:59,160
Speaker 1: You like on that side, right, And you know, niggas

2406
02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:01,560
Speaker 1: don't know if they don't know, if you don't be

2407
02:42:01,640 --> 02:42:03,440
Speaker 1: a fucking thing. Thought they see you, but they don't

2408
02:42:03,480 --> 02:42:08,360
Speaker 1: see me never. Never. So after this interview, I'm going

2409
02:42:08,480 --> 02:42:12,320
Speaker 1: back in my hole, going back in my bunker. No,

2410
02:42:12,520 --> 02:42:15,960
Speaker 1: please say everything you need to say. You have to

2411
02:42:16,160 --> 02:42:21,600
Speaker 1: because you know I'll be honest. I'll be honest. Twitter

2412
02:42:21,680 --> 02:42:26,600
Speaker 1: is my most negative conversation. Right. So when I go

2413
02:42:26,840 --> 02:42:30,240
Speaker 1: to Instagram and I say I got such a such.

2414
02:42:30,440 --> 02:42:33,560
Speaker 1: So when I said yeah I got a little Sean here, right,

2415
02:42:34,720 --> 02:42:37,240
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I got a little Sean to moor

2416
02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:42,720
Speaker 1: heyybody says that, then they do that, Rob, I care

2417
02:42:42,760 --> 02:42:51,200
Speaker 1: what you know? You were brothers. I'm not trying to

2418
02:42:51,400 --> 02:42:58,400
Speaker 1: give you anything, but that's exactly what they say. I

2419
02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:03,920
Speaker 1: want you to tell these niggas none you know for me, right,

2420
02:43:05,640 --> 02:43:08,560
Speaker 1: even doing behind the smoke, right, and my guys know

2421
02:43:10,560 --> 02:43:16,440
Speaker 1: that's your old ship. I've never done anything nothing. I

2422
02:43:16,520 --> 02:43:18,640
Speaker 1: didn't come home. I didn't get back to music. I

2423
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:21,480
Speaker 1: didn't find an artist, I didn't produce something right for nobody.

2424
02:43:21,920 --> 02:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I just was done with the music industry. I don't

2425
02:43:25,160 --> 02:43:27,880
Speaker 1: go to puff parties. I'm done of that ship. I

2426
02:43:27,959 --> 02:43:30,480
Speaker 1: go to pop artists. Nobody sees me. Well, you know

2427
02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:34,600
Speaker 1: you can't. Anybody reads the new ship. There you go? Right?

2428
02:43:34,720 --> 02:43:38,280
Speaker 1: Well you right? You didn't right, I'm not so for me,

2429
02:43:38,800 --> 02:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't interested in none of none of those things.

2430
02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:48,720
Speaker 1: But definitely not you already know. But you know you

2431
02:43:48,920 --> 02:43:51,600
Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think? I don't

2432
02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:53,800
Speaker 1: think anything. But what do you think? You think? Do

2433
02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:57,000
Speaker 1: you think I would stick up somebody for their jury? No?

2434
02:43:57,120 --> 02:43:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think. There you go, but I know you.

2435
02:44:00,080 --> 02:44:03,920
Speaker 1: But but but see, here's the thing you're talking about

2436
02:44:04,040 --> 02:44:08,560
Speaker 1: people that your corresponding with that don't know you, They

2437
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:11,960
Speaker 1: don't know me. They're going for me, no, listen to

2438
02:44:12,840 --> 02:44:16,720
Speaker 1: but here's the thing they're going by what they think.

2439
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't care what the motherfucker think. If a motherfucker

2440
02:44:21,040 --> 02:44:24,160
Speaker 1: got a problem with me and he feels froggy, he

2441
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:27,120
Speaker 1: got late, But I'm an pop his top. But you

2442
02:44:27,240 --> 02:44:31,560
Speaker 1: definitely didn't rob you already know. But you know I know.

2443
02:44:31,760 --> 02:44:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean I did it. You did it by

2444
02:44:35,480 --> 02:44:36,600
Speaker 1: But what do you? What do you? What do you?

2445
02:44:37,600 --> 02:44:41,160
Speaker 1: What are your men? What do you? What do you think? No?

2446
02:44:41,640 --> 02:44:44,320
Speaker 1: I what do you? What do you think? I want

2447
02:44:44,360 --> 02:44:46,760
Speaker 1: to maybe sitting knowing you as a brother, did you go?

2448
02:44:47,200 --> 02:44:50,200
Speaker 1: I know what you mean? So for me, you know

2449
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:57,840
Speaker 1: you're here. Listen, you're here, Nori constantly mentioning this right

2450
02:44:57,959 --> 02:45:02,600
Speaker 1: love who you listen imagining Imagine that I didn't know

2451
02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:06,520
Speaker 1: who you were back there. Imagine that spending. Now you

2452
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:13,880
Speaker 1: see this, I'm working. I'm gonna but imagine that happening

2453
02:45:14,720 --> 02:45:18,680
Speaker 1: in the federal system. See when you're in jail and

2454
02:45:19,000 --> 02:45:22,840
Speaker 1: that's coming at you see a lot of guys go

2455
02:45:22,920 --> 02:45:28,720
Speaker 1: to jail. They become Muslim for protection. I'm a Christian.

2456
02:45:30,360 --> 02:45:35,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a big us, right, So if

2457
02:45:35,480 --> 02:45:41,439
Speaker 1: there's anyone that was in jail with me from two three,

2458
02:45:41,560 --> 02:45:45,960
Speaker 1: they're only gonna tell you one of two things, and

2459
02:45:46,080 --> 02:45:51,080
Speaker 1: you can ask emery bag. I came home on a Tuesday.

2460
02:45:51,560 --> 02:45:55,760
Speaker 1: I had a fight Saturday night. I thought to the door,

2461
02:45:56,600 --> 02:46:00,400
Speaker 1: it's just who I am. We don't any fighting. No,

2462
02:46:00,560 --> 02:46:03,680
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, hey, listen, I don't but I

2463
02:46:03,800 --> 02:46:07,080
Speaker 1: will come. You don't matter. But I'm just saying it.

2464
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:11,240
Speaker 1: That thing has followed me and has plagued me for

2465
02:46:12,120 --> 02:46:15,240
Speaker 1: all day forever. This is the reason why I wanted

2466
02:46:15,280 --> 02:46:19,160
Speaker 1: you to just bro Let me tell you something, Champ,

2467
02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:25,440
Speaker 1: you see me me. This is the first interview I've

2468
02:46:25,520 --> 02:46:27,879
Speaker 1: ever done in my life, even my friend and knew

2469
02:46:27,879 --> 02:46:31,280
Speaker 1: you did it for me? Well, no, no, I can't

2470
02:46:31,320 --> 02:46:38,680
Speaker 1: say that. No, hell no. Him initially, who come on,

2471
02:46:38,760 --> 02:46:49,760
Speaker 1: give me some vodka? You know why because while I

2472
02:46:49,920 --> 02:46:55,320
Speaker 1: know you, we're not in touch. And him every other

2473
02:46:55,440 --> 02:46:59,520
Speaker 1: day on Instagram once he tell me he said little right,

2474
02:47:00,920 --> 02:47:04,879
Speaker 1: see the dynamic between you two. I don't know him,

2475
02:47:05,280 --> 02:47:08,160
Speaker 1: never heard of him. I don't even know how you

2476
02:47:08,240 --> 02:47:15,040
Speaker 1: two got together. I don't want to know. But drinking it,

2477
02:47:15,760 --> 02:47:18,120
Speaker 1: I see the show and I see him on camera

2478
02:47:18,200 --> 02:47:21,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, who is this guy? And I

2479
02:47:21,160 --> 02:47:27,920
Speaker 1: look into his past and I'm like, good, motherfucker. And

2480
02:47:28,040 --> 02:47:33,400
Speaker 1: then we connect to d M. I know you were good.

2481
02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't have to work on that, right, And then

2482
02:47:36,640 --> 02:47:40,800
Speaker 1: I let him know it's my guy. He already knew,

2483
02:47:41,320 --> 02:47:45,120
Speaker 1: he knew. So this motherfucker is so important to this

2484
02:47:45,320 --> 02:47:59,240
Speaker 1: platform a solid. See we used to industry. See the

2485
02:47:59,240 --> 02:48:01,760
Speaker 1: industry is not a about us anymore. It's about us

2486
02:48:01,879 --> 02:48:06,320
Speaker 1: now because of your reinvention. And when the motherfucker comes

2487
02:48:06,400 --> 02:48:09,920
Speaker 1: on this, they don't even know component Noriega. They don't

2488
02:48:09,959 --> 02:48:13,640
Speaker 1: know about the snipe that like holding all that ship right,

2489
02:48:14,360 --> 02:48:16,560
Speaker 1: warning posters and all that kind of they don't know

2490
02:48:16,760 --> 02:48:19,480
Speaker 1: that when they sit down with you. They just don't

2491
02:48:19,640 --> 02:48:26,000
Speaker 1: drink Champson Nori, right, they don't know Nori. So when

2492
02:48:26,080 --> 02:48:29,160
Speaker 1: you ever hear any kind of street ship connected to Nori,

2493
02:48:29,320 --> 02:48:35,040
Speaker 1: you're like the same Nori because because he's happy. But

2494
02:48:35,920 --> 02:48:39,600
Speaker 1: I must say, there was a time when he did

2495
02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:45,960
Speaker 1: the move. You know, I'm not talking about that. I

2496
02:48:46,120 --> 02:48:49,400
Speaker 1: see everything. No, it's what I do every morning. Right,

2497
02:48:50,440 --> 02:48:52,560
Speaker 1: So now I'm selling these meal plans. I can't even

2498
02:48:52,640 --> 02:48:55,720
Speaker 1: move out of the house until I fulfill these orders. Right,

2499
02:48:55,879 --> 02:48:59,400
Speaker 1: They're coming in. And I get on one day and

2500
02:48:59,560 --> 02:49:05,240
Speaker 1: I see somebody off and he did a video. He said,

2501
02:49:05,400 --> 02:49:10,560
Speaker 1: what what got me fucked up? Pull up? You got

2502
02:49:10,600 --> 02:49:12,959
Speaker 1: me all the way? Fun up, You're a chicken. I'm

2503
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:16,440
Speaker 1: not talking about you. Go get you niggers. This is

2504
02:49:16,480 --> 02:49:19,880
Speaker 1: who I really, I said, I said, you know what,

2505
02:49:20,600 --> 02:49:23,240
Speaker 1: I respect who he is now. I love the reinvention.

2506
02:49:23,320 --> 02:49:25,920
Speaker 1: I love what he's doing, but I really embrace this

2507
02:49:26,840 --> 02:49:30,720
Speaker 1: because it's still exist. I fell in love. I loved

2508
02:49:30,760 --> 02:49:33,880
Speaker 1: you more when I saw him. Thank you that that yeah,

2509
02:49:33,959 --> 02:49:38,039
Speaker 1: because that side, that side came out and I sat

2510
02:49:38,120 --> 02:49:39,920
Speaker 1: there and I watched that ship three times, and I

2511
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:45,000
Speaker 1: said this mother fox with this dude, because this is

2512
02:49:45,040 --> 02:49:47,120
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. But don't get it fucked out. You

2513
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:49,760
Speaker 1: got me mixed. You wasn't even born yet, right, you

2514
02:49:50,040 --> 02:49:52,760
Speaker 1: got me all the wait next, this is why I happened,

2515
02:49:52,800 --> 02:50:02,040
Speaker 1: and I could revisit that and I can't wait. You

2516
02:50:02,840 --> 02:50:04,880
Speaker 1: came out of character. You know what. I don't want

2517
02:50:05,000 --> 02:50:06,960
Speaker 1: happy phone calls? Did you get it? I got? I

2518
02:50:07,040 --> 02:50:09,199
Speaker 1: got you know, you know what. I'm gonna be honest.

2519
02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:11,720
Speaker 1: I got so many phone calls, but the one phone

2520
02:50:11,760 --> 02:50:15,680
Speaker 1: call that meant the world to me was my brother. Dude. Dude.

2521
02:50:16,120 --> 02:50:18,840
Speaker 1: And when dudes called me and said, don't you ever

2522
02:50:18,959 --> 02:50:21,840
Speaker 1: said you by yourself? Because I was like, he said,

2523
02:50:21,840 --> 02:50:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm by myself. I'm doing Yeah, don't worry about it.

2524
02:50:27,680 --> 02:50:30,480
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that. Go find some ni. Yeah, yeah,

2525
02:50:31,440 --> 02:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm at what you don't know? And I said, ye

2526
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:39,360
Speaker 1: called me and listen and be honest, because because I

2527
02:50:39,600 --> 02:50:43,960
Speaker 1: was so fast, I was so stokered. You haven't been

2528
02:50:44,040 --> 02:50:47,440
Speaker 1: that person? Was that? I wasn't that person? But no, no,

2529
02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:50,480
Speaker 1: you don't know you No, no, you used to be there.

2530
02:50:50,680 --> 02:50:53,120
Speaker 1: So he called me and he said, he said, I

2531
02:50:53,200 --> 02:50:56,760
Speaker 1: don't know who the fuck you think you are. But

2532
02:50:57,720 --> 02:51:01,680
Speaker 1: if you think you by yourself, you're not. Bro Listen

2533
02:51:01,720 --> 02:51:05,160
Speaker 1: to me and God that moment on God, let's do studies.

2534
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:13,720
Speaker 1: I respect him? How right here he wa whot little cigarette?

2535
02:51:14,280 --> 02:51:21,400
Speaker 1: Listen you know and and it's okay, it's your human

2536
02:51:21,680 --> 02:51:24,120
Speaker 1: It's okay. We know what we know they don't know,

2537
02:51:24,520 --> 02:51:27,160
Speaker 1: but we know you didn't want to do that. But

2538
02:51:28,040 --> 02:51:31,280
Speaker 1: at a point and you tried to deflect and you

2539
02:51:31,400 --> 02:51:34,360
Speaker 1: ignored and it wouldn't work and it got heavy, and

2540
02:51:34,520 --> 02:51:36,840
Speaker 1: you're doing it in the media space, right, so you

2541
02:51:36,920 --> 02:51:40,000
Speaker 1: gotta protect your right. And you said, what got me

2542
02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:42,440
Speaker 1: all the stop, We're gonna stop this ship now. And

2543
02:51:42,520 --> 02:51:47,120
Speaker 1: it stopped as soon as you did that. The motherfucker's said,

2544
02:51:47,120 --> 02:51:51,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I might not want that problem. I

2545
02:51:51,440 --> 02:51:54,200
Speaker 1: don't think they want this problem. I know they don't

2546
02:51:54,240 --> 02:51:58,680
Speaker 1: want this problem. If you see for me, Tony Dre,

2547
02:51:58,840 --> 02:52:11,520
Speaker 1: this is my big queens Brooklyn to what Frank all right? Stop?

2548
02:52:12,879 --> 02:52:23,840
Speaker 1: It's older. Yeah, we know each other and we don't

2549
02:52:23,879 --> 02:52:29,480
Speaker 1: know each other. And that's how Brooklyn is, how Brooklyn.

2550
02:52:29,720 --> 02:52:33,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a funny story. Right, I'm at the

2551
02:52:34,160 --> 02:52:45,720
Speaker 1: Wells Fogo Arena in Philadelphia and I'm with Charlie Mac Philidel. Charlie, Yeah,

2552
02:52:45,720 --> 02:52:53,520
Speaker 1: he was on drink chat with Tony Um somebody who

2553
02:52:53,640 --> 02:52:59,680
Speaker 1: has So Charlie Mack is on my right. The stage

2554
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:04,680
Speaker 1: is right there. We're backstage. We could see who's performing.

2555
02:53:05,560 --> 02:53:09,279
Speaker 1: It was a Meet Mills concert, Meet Mills and Friends

2556
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:15,720
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, right yep. And Fat is

2557
02:53:15,720 --> 02:53:19,520
Speaker 1: getting ready to go on stage. He's standing right here

2558
02:53:20,160 --> 02:53:25,600
Speaker 1: with his security. His brother Paul came. I know his brother.

2559
02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:32,120
Speaker 1: He sees me. We speak embrace cool. Charlie is sitting

2560
02:53:32,160 --> 02:53:34,879
Speaker 1: there waiting for me to speak to Fab. I don't

2561
02:53:34,959 --> 02:53:42,600
Speaker 1: know Fat. We never formerly been introduced Charlie from Philadelphia.

2562
02:53:42,840 --> 02:53:46,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't understand that he's a brother. We think everybody

2563
02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:48,800
Speaker 1: from Bok knows each other. Not true. It's like kind

2564
02:53:48,840 --> 02:53:58,040
Speaker 1: of racist, it is. It's geographical right, And he's like, Yo,

2565
02:53:58,160 --> 02:54:01,240
Speaker 1: you don't see Fab right there. I'm like, yeah, I

2566
02:54:01,360 --> 02:54:03,000
Speaker 1: don't know him there. He's like, how do you don't

2567
02:54:03,040 --> 02:54:05,120
Speaker 1: know Fab? But like he's younger than me. I don't

2568
02:54:05,160 --> 02:54:07,440
Speaker 1: know him. I know who he is, I don't know

2569
02:54:07,560 --> 02:54:12,400
Speaker 1: who I don't know him personally. So Charlie goes to Fab,

2570
02:54:12,760 --> 02:54:18,280
Speaker 1: you don't know a little Sean and super innocent. I

2571
02:54:18,320 --> 02:54:20,840
Speaker 1: would have stopped him had I seen him doing that.

2572
02:54:21,840 --> 02:54:26,040
Speaker 1: And he said, Fab said, um, of course I know

2573
02:54:26,200 --> 02:54:31,720
Speaker 1: who he is. We haven't been introduced, right, that's the fair.

2574
02:54:32,080 --> 02:54:37,240
Speaker 1: Charlie says, a guy introduced to Brooklyn. Guys introduced me

2575
02:54:37,680 --> 02:54:41,879
Speaker 1: fact and we met and I had explained to Charlie,

2576
02:54:42,320 --> 02:54:47,280
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is different. Leave Fab fabs great, and my mom

2577
02:54:47,440 --> 02:54:50,320
Speaker 1: Fab intraded up. No no, no, no, no, no, listen,

2578
02:54:50,720 --> 02:54:53,640
Speaker 1: I want to know what happened. So I had to

2579
02:54:53,720 --> 02:54:58,480
Speaker 1: tell Charlie. In Brooklyn, if there isn't a problem, there

2580
02:54:58,520 --> 02:55:06,720
Speaker 1: will never be a problem. That's hard because we can

2581
02:55:06,800 --> 02:55:13,360
Speaker 1: see in Brooklyn we want to knock off the next nigger.

2582
02:55:14,320 --> 02:55:18,560
Speaker 1: Queens embraces their o g s. In Brooklyn, we don't.

2583
02:55:19,560 --> 02:55:25,200
Speaker 1: We want to knock them down that we don't respect

2584
02:55:25,240 --> 02:55:30,080
Speaker 1: where we came from. In Brooklyn culturally, queens, we queens

2585
02:55:30,240 --> 02:55:34,680
Speaker 1: honors the person that came before them, which is why

2586
02:55:34,760 --> 02:55:38,840
Speaker 1: you still have respectful wise Supreme from the Supreme team.

2587
02:55:39,000 --> 02:55:43,120
Speaker 1: My guy, all of these old school got queens, they

2588
02:55:43,240 --> 02:55:47,080
Speaker 1: want to party and get money. Hallo parties and gets money. Queens.

2589
02:55:47,560 --> 02:55:51,760
Speaker 1: We tell people apart Brooklyn, we tell people you're gonna

2590
02:55:52,120 --> 02:55:54,880
Speaker 1: in the Bronx. I had to tell them too. In

2591
02:55:54,959 --> 02:55:58,360
Speaker 1: the Bronx. In my opinion, they do too. They do

2592
02:55:58,720 --> 02:56:02,200
Speaker 1: like big people. In my opinion, big people love and

2593
02:56:02,240 --> 02:56:05,320
Speaker 1: break them the bark like like, I'm gonna be honest,

2594
02:56:05,640 --> 02:56:07,880
Speaker 1: but you have respect for your ogs and queens. And

2595
02:56:07,959 --> 02:56:10,280
Speaker 1: that's why he's sitting there. And he's not even from

2596
02:56:10,360 --> 02:56:18,080
Speaker 1: queens O Queen's book. They all they all ut you

2597
02:56:18,200 --> 02:56:22,480
Speaker 1: from Queen's Yes, And I love beer, So I know wrong, Auntie,

2598
02:56:22,720 --> 02:56:27,440
Speaker 1: all these guys, all of wises babies, I know more

2599
02:56:28,200 --> 02:56:32,600
Speaker 1: and you I'm saying babies exact. And you know what,

2600
02:56:33,240 --> 02:56:36,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate being away baby brother. How about that? Come on?

2601
02:56:36,440 --> 02:56:39,400
Speaker 1: Like there's so many people that like they're like, oh

2602
02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:42,680
Speaker 1: so no, I want to be your baby brother. Like

2603
02:56:42,879 --> 02:56:48,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. You see when you when you're finished

2604
02:56:49,600 --> 02:56:52,680
Speaker 1: with whatever it is you're doing, which is your journey

2605
02:56:52,720 --> 02:56:56,640
Speaker 1: in life. All you people in this room, everybody here, right,

2606
02:56:59,520 --> 02:57:03,600
Speaker 1: you know you're only as good as your journey. Wow.

2607
02:57:04,200 --> 02:57:07,400
Speaker 1: And whether you help people that's hard, or you toil

2608
02:57:07,440 --> 02:57:10,840
Speaker 1: people down, you're going to be a product of whatever

2609
02:57:11,400 --> 02:57:15,880
Speaker 1: you produced. And for me, if we were cool at

2610
02:57:15,920 --> 02:57:18,560
Speaker 1: one time, when we're not now, I don't really have

2611
02:57:18,680 --> 02:57:22,560
Speaker 1: anything disparaging to say about your animosity. But you're the

2612
02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:25,959
Speaker 1: only guy that I know that knows Tupac and big

2613
02:57:30,640 --> 02:57:36,600
Speaker 1: How did you meet Tupaca? I met Tupac haphazardly. What

2614
02:57:37,520 --> 02:57:46,520
Speaker 1: happy hasn't happened that I wasn't born somewhere to be

2615
02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:52,720
Speaker 1: introduced to him. I was someplace he was already's already

2616
02:57:53,080 --> 02:57:57,760
Speaker 1: in the coil time, and we met, and that's we met.

2617
02:57:59,000 --> 02:58:02,840
Speaker 1: Our thought it wasn't you know, it wasn't. No elaborate

2618
02:58:03,560 --> 02:58:06,600
Speaker 1: This is a little shown you got because in my mind,

2619
02:58:06,959 --> 02:58:11,199
Speaker 1: like you say, in my mind, I was a gangster,

2620
02:58:13,520 --> 02:58:17,440
Speaker 1: not in your mind with the cameras. From the cameras,

2621
02:58:17,560 --> 02:58:21,320
Speaker 1: I was a rapper. But I didn't realize that though.

2622
02:58:21,480 --> 02:58:24,760
Speaker 1: No then he had no idea who I was. The

2623
02:58:24,920 --> 02:58:27,320
Speaker 1: dude never knew who I was. I didn't know you

2624
02:58:27,400 --> 02:58:31,280
Speaker 1: had a rapper, d nothing. This is so you know

2625
02:58:31,360 --> 02:58:35,600
Speaker 1: who I was. I remember, dreach you just you dude,

2626
02:58:35,640 --> 02:58:38,480
Speaker 1: didn't know who he was? Just a ram dude. You

2627
02:58:38,640 --> 02:58:42,040
Speaker 1: know who I was because your local, your local, if

2628
02:58:42,080 --> 02:58:44,160
Speaker 1: you was from listen, if you're not from l A,

2629
02:58:45,360 --> 02:58:49,160
Speaker 1: you don't know who Richie riches in Oakland. But Oakman

2630
02:58:49,240 --> 02:58:52,280
Speaker 1: knows who Richie Riches. Richie rich was that guy. He

2631
02:58:52,600 --> 02:58:55,840
Speaker 1: was the first key. I mean nothing. I think he did,

2632
02:58:55,879 --> 02:58:58,280
Speaker 1: ferent Man because I'm in Miami. I Richie rich wasn't

2633
02:58:58,360 --> 02:59:00,960
Speaker 1: in Oakland. But you're from Miami, from New York. So

2634
02:59:01,040 --> 02:59:03,080
Speaker 1: you said, you guys were just not wanting to know

2635
02:59:03,120 --> 02:59:06,200
Speaker 1: what the fun everybody else wants. I'm saying what he's saying,

2636
02:59:06,400 --> 02:59:09,640
Speaker 1: what Papa is. I could see that. I could see it.

2637
02:59:09,680 --> 02:59:11,840
Speaker 1: I could I could get it. But I think Papa

2638
02:59:11,920 --> 02:59:13,160
Speaker 1: was a student in the game. I felt like he

2639
02:59:13,200 --> 02:59:17,039
Speaker 1: wouldn't know what you're saying, but I hadn't gone gold agree.

2640
02:59:17,240 --> 02:59:20,160
Speaker 1: I also agree, Yeah, I feel like he wouldn't. No man,

2641
02:59:20,360 --> 02:59:23,440
Speaker 1: listen to are people that didn't know to this day

2642
02:59:24,200 --> 02:59:29,120
Speaker 1: that Nori was with. It was Capoul and Noriega. You

2643
02:59:29,160 --> 02:59:31,440
Speaker 1: know how many people don't know that. I respect that

2644
02:59:32,959 --> 02:59:36,920
Speaker 1: argue the other day and me and may have argued

2645
02:59:37,000 --> 02:59:39,720
Speaker 1: the other day and he's like, people know. I'm like, no,

2646
02:59:40,120 --> 02:59:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, and you just argue with what you know.

2647
02:59:44,879 --> 02:59:49,160
Speaker 1: It's not common knowledge. He's like, your followers know. I'm like, nah,

2648
02:59:49,560 --> 02:59:57,160
Speaker 1: I got people, I give you something better. I forget

2649
02:59:57,240 --> 03:00:00,200
Speaker 1: what it was. But the last thing that it us.

2650
03:00:00,280 --> 03:00:06,840
Speaker 1: They was like, yo, Nori's I'm there, but what were

2651
03:00:06,840 --> 03:00:14,720
Speaker 1: you saying? It was Nori makes taco talk us by myself.

2652
03:00:16,200 --> 03:00:22,040
Speaker 1: They say, even better, even better for him, and I

2653
03:00:22,120 --> 03:00:23,480
Speaker 1: know they should show. I'm not trying to tell you

2654
03:00:24,360 --> 03:00:29,119
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Drink Champs, right, A lot of people

2655
03:00:29,200 --> 03:00:31,800
Speaker 1: are not on the internet, so there are a select

2656
03:00:31,879 --> 03:00:35,680
Speaker 1: few of people that don't know what drink Champs is. Okay,

2657
03:00:36,520 --> 03:00:39,720
Speaker 1: but the people that no, no, And then when you

2658
03:00:39,920 --> 03:00:44,880
Speaker 1: tell somebody, you're like, oh, ship, I put them onto

2659
03:00:44,959 --> 03:00:48,080
Speaker 1: drink Champs. And once they're on, they start going to

2660
03:00:48,360 --> 03:00:53,160
Speaker 1: past episode they've been up. But now he came in

2661
03:00:53,240 --> 03:01:00,080
Speaker 1: the game as component Noriator. Then he went solong and

2662
03:01:00,600 --> 03:01:05,760
Speaker 1: we blame him for and then they loved me for

2663
03:01:05,879 --> 03:01:13,880
Speaker 1: that ship. Right ship. It's like, and I say it,

2664
03:01:14,480 --> 03:01:17,960
Speaker 1: I pronounced it correctly. You did pronounce a pretty damn

2665
03:01:18,320 --> 03:01:28,880
Speaker 1: People think I'm Dominica and I'm not. But after right,

2666
03:01:29,200 --> 03:01:35,000
Speaker 1: you are man. And then he does drink chance. There

2667
03:01:35,040 --> 03:01:39,400
Speaker 1: are some people that only no component Oriega what what what?

2668
03:01:40,280 --> 03:01:42,320
Speaker 1: That's a fact. And then they are only people that

2669
03:01:42,480 --> 03:01:49,560
Speaker 1: know Daddy Yankee, people that know drink Chips. Now you're

2670
03:01:49,560 --> 03:01:53,840
Speaker 1: dealing with three different people. He's right, and when you

2671
03:01:54,760 --> 03:01:58,920
Speaker 1: would go, oh, Ship, I didn't know you were. I'm selling.

2672
03:01:59,080 --> 03:02:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling meal plans on Instagram. People are going, I

2673
03:02:03,320 --> 03:02:06,480
Speaker 1: didn't know you were the one that did. And then

2674
03:02:06,520 --> 03:02:08,280
Speaker 1: they'll come back to this and you know you're the

2675
03:02:08,320 --> 03:02:13,280
Speaker 1: on rob Oh my god, you say rob No, no, no,

2676
03:02:14,720 --> 03:02:20,440
Speaker 1: they'll come back. We never would never negotiate, negotiad you rob,

2677
03:02:21,400 --> 03:02:25,000
Speaker 1: you keep We're three hours, you didn't do it. I'm

2678
03:02:25,040 --> 03:02:26,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell them to bring the stuff to me. We're

2679
03:02:26,400 --> 03:02:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna take a picture and we gotta get out up. Listen.

2680
03:02:31,520 --> 03:02:34,560
Speaker 1: Just because your name is Sonana, No, it's not not

2681
03:02:34,720 --> 03:02:40,440
Speaker 1: a fact with the robbery. So I come home from jail, right,

2682
03:02:41,400 --> 03:02:45,040
Speaker 1: I get a phone call and they're like, you know

2683
03:02:45,080 --> 03:02:50,400
Speaker 1: what I'm doing it Biggie movie and just Garty going

2684
03:02:50,480 --> 03:02:55,160
Speaker 1: to ky Nope from Koyo. Nope, No, he said you

2685
03:02:55,280 --> 03:03:01,800
Speaker 1: came here in Spanish it first. Oh. He's like, we're

2686
03:03:01,879 --> 03:03:05,800
Speaker 1: shooting on X, Y and Z. Come me to ship tomorrow.

2687
03:03:05,800 --> 03:03:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm want to show you some ship. So I go

2688
03:03:08,560 --> 03:03:13,080
Speaker 1: to the set and he's like, out of respect, you

2689
03:03:13,160 --> 03:03:15,640
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're okay with this. If you're not.

2690
03:03:16,160 --> 03:03:20,160
Speaker 1: It's out. This is the Notorious movie and it's about you.

2691
03:03:20,360 --> 03:03:25,040
Speaker 1: This scene. See your scene where you robbed toubab Jesus.

2692
03:03:28,480 --> 03:03:31,039
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I said that a live clear

2693
03:03:31,240 --> 03:03:35,240
Speaker 1: up before. That's not you know what. Let's take a

2694
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:38,840
Speaker 1: picture and clearing out. Listen, you definitely didn't rob Tuba.

2695
03:03:40,320 --> 03:03:44,520
Speaker 1: Listen me robbing pockets like me robbing. You know what?

2696
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:49,200
Speaker 1: He didn't rob me? What you definitely did wrong. What

2697
03:03:49,320 --> 03:03:51,400
Speaker 1: would you think? Would you think I would rob you?

2698
03:03:52,000 --> 03:03:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you will rob me, but I will

2699
03:03:53,760 --> 03:03:57,320
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm not from Oakland, doesn't matter from Oakland.

2700
03:03:57,400 --> 03:03:59,720
Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't think it would rob me,

2701
03:03:59,840 --> 03:04:03,680
Speaker 1: but I'll see you we too. Storm you think I would?

2702
03:04:03,879 --> 03:04:07,000
Speaker 1: I think you would a little bit, a little bit.

2703
03:04:07,080 --> 03:04:09,920
Speaker 1: I'll make you think that. Yeah, man, we can't. It's

2704
03:04:09,920 --> 03:04:15,360
Speaker 1: psychiatric treatment right now. What would make your fa my faith?

2705
03:04:16,600 --> 03:04:21,800
Speaker 1: He said, the way you were like you you're gonna

2706
03:04:21,800 --> 03:04:30,400
Speaker 1: get you there. No, no, never, never listen, guys, we're

2707
03:04:30,440 --> 03:04:35,320
Speaker 1: about to whatever of digital time over. I'm sure listen.

2708
03:04:36,600 --> 03:04:39,840
Speaker 1: So they called me to the set and it's the

2709
03:04:39,920 --> 03:04:45,440
Speaker 1: dude is just producing the film and they're like, you know, no,

2710
03:04:45,640 --> 03:04:48,440
Speaker 1: not bo you know it's boiling the hood about that.

2711
03:04:50,280 --> 03:04:54,080
Speaker 1: So I see this ship and whoever they have playing

2712
03:04:54,160 --> 03:04:57,760
Speaker 1: me has a speaking rod and I read this ship

2713
03:04:57,800 --> 03:05:00,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nah, but together you. I'm not playing that, y'all.

2714
03:05:01,040 --> 03:05:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all gonna get that out. What the fund is? Y'all?

2715
03:05:03,200 --> 03:05:05,240
Speaker 1: You don't like the way that they say. I just

2716
03:05:05,280 --> 03:05:07,000
Speaker 1: don't like none of that ship, and I don't have

2717
03:05:07,120 --> 03:05:09,840
Speaker 1: none of that ship connected to me. Right, take it

2718
03:05:09,920 --> 03:05:12,440
Speaker 1: all out and they take it out. I'll expect that.

2719
03:05:13,000 --> 03:05:14,720
Speaker 1: So now, when you go back and look at the

2720
03:05:14,840 --> 03:05:22,000
Speaker 1: Notorious movie, in the scene with the robbery happens, there's

2721
03:05:22,000 --> 03:05:26,480
Speaker 1: a light skinned guy with freckles and a great sweat sweatshirt.

2722
03:05:26,560 --> 03:05:29,800
Speaker 1: Is that you that's supposed to be made? No speaking fund?

2723
03:05:31,280 --> 03:05:36,760
Speaker 1: It was Mark Pitts. Wait wait wait wait wait wait

2724
03:05:37,240 --> 03:05:42,879
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait, I'm gonna take a piss. I'm

2725
03:05:42,959 --> 03:05:48,359
Speaker 1: taking take a picture. We're taking a picture before everybody

2726
03:05:48,440 --> 03:05:52,920
Speaker 1: takes up. Please, guys, we gotta gave me because camera's

2727
03:05:52,920 --> 03:05:54,560
Speaker 1: about to die. But we need the ending of this.

2728
03:05:55,840 --> 03:05:59,840
Speaker 1: So you're saying this is the one Mark Pitts and

2729
03:06:00,120 --> 03:06:03,720
Speaker 1: cousin Wayne Battle are the ones. That's the ones that spareheaded,

2730
03:06:04,480 --> 03:06:08,560
Speaker 1: great ware that time when that guy didn't well up.

2731
03:06:09,959 --> 03:06:13,360
Speaker 1: They're the ones that did the Notorious film. Yes we

2732
03:06:13,440 --> 03:06:17,120
Speaker 1: knew that. And MS Wallace has always been connected to them,

2733
03:06:17,200 --> 03:06:20,879
Speaker 1: so they they've always been moving in big best light

2734
03:06:21,240 --> 03:06:27,560
Speaker 1: in his absence. So she trusted them first, right, And

2735
03:06:27,640 --> 03:06:30,760
Speaker 1: they called me to the set and they showed me

2736
03:06:30,840 --> 03:06:34,200
Speaker 1: what they were doing. I'm like, nah, that's not me,

2737
03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:38,560
Speaker 1: and they took that shot out. So when you watch

2738
03:06:38,640 --> 03:06:42,960
Speaker 1: the Notorious movie, there's a guy playing me, and you

2739
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:46,640
Speaker 1: would never know that that's supposed to be me. It's

2740
03:06:46,680 --> 03:06:49,560
Speaker 1: a kid, licene kid with a great sweatshirt with hoodie

2741
03:06:50,080 --> 03:06:53,240
Speaker 1: Frankly zone in his face. But you you canceled the

2742
03:06:53,360 --> 03:06:57,440
Speaker 1: line right, so the the persona, but the lines are

2743
03:06:57,440 --> 03:07:02,600
Speaker 1: out gone and you just see this guy and nobody

2744
03:07:02,800 --> 03:07:07,160
Speaker 1: knew this was so hard. It's so beautiful. I love

2745
03:07:07,360 --> 03:07:10,360
Speaker 1: this continuous No, No, we're gonna not continue. I'm gonna

2746
03:07:10,360 --> 03:07:12,920
Speaker 1: tell you what's gonna happen. We're gonna end his motherfucker.

2747
03:07:13,360 --> 03:07:16,200
Speaker 1: Because the cameras about to die, the dig is just

2748
03:07:16,320 --> 03:07:20,880
Speaker 1: about to tie. Everything's about to die right now, so

2749
03:07:20,959 --> 03:07:22,760
Speaker 1: we need we need the final statement. Now, we need

2750
03:07:22,800 --> 03:07:25,840
Speaker 1: the final state. Can going now we would her statement,

2751
03:07:26,760 --> 03:07:29,879
Speaker 1: when you keep going, it's gonna die. Bro, I don't care.

2752
03:07:30,080 --> 03:07:34,840
Speaker 1: You see now you have people on the show and

2753
03:07:34,920 --> 03:07:38,680
Speaker 1: they just love, love, love, and I have not been

2754
03:07:39,280 --> 03:07:45,560
Speaker 1: reachable at all. Right, you can't find me. I can't

2755
03:07:45,640 --> 03:07:47,760
Speaker 1: find you and my money. But if you go to

2756
03:07:47,840 --> 03:07:49,800
Speaker 1: he feel like I can find I feel like I

2757
03:07:49,879 --> 03:07:55,080
Speaker 1: can find you. Put him. He's on me whenever he wants, right, right,

2758
03:07:55,600 --> 03:07:59,080
Speaker 1: I love this guy. But now I sit and I

2759
03:07:59,200 --> 03:08:03,560
Speaker 1: watched your show. Everybody you have one the best episodes

2760
03:08:03,720 --> 03:08:08,320
Speaker 1: that you've ever had have been our guy. I've been

2761
03:08:08,480 --> 03:08:15,279
Speaker 1: I've wrote that a lot, hilarious, super entertaining, he's funny,

2762
03:08:15,320 --> 03:08:19,200
Speaker 1: a ship. Look, No, he's been great, man, he's been great.

2763
03:08:19,959 --> 03:08:25,360
Speaker 1: That one of those one of the hilarious. Right. But now,

2764
03:08:27,040 --> 03:08:32,039
Speaker 1: I saw you interview Prize. Right, that's the same episode

2765
03:08:32,080 --> 03:08:37,280
Speaker 1: with isn't it. I saw you interview Prize. Oh no, no,

2766
03:08:37,720 --> 03:08:40,480
Speaker 1: it's the same type friend, and I watched it and

2767
03:08:40,600 --> 03:08:45,520
Speaker 1: it's entirety right, And he called my name and I'm like,

2768
03:08:45,920 --> 03:08:47,959
Speaker 1: he did call you. I'm like, why would you call

2769
03:08:48,120 --> 03:08:50,320
Speaker 1: my name? What do you say? He said that he

2770
03:08:50,480 --> 03:08:53,200
Speaker 1: was with Tupac the night that he got robbed and

2771
03:08:53,360 --> 03:08:57,680
Speaker 1: shot and he yeah, I got it on my phone,

2772
03:08:57,720 --> 03:09:01,840
Speaker 1: he said. He said, you remember a little listen, prize

2773
03:09:02,080 --> 03:09:08,840
Speaker 1: is a piece of ship corn you right, And the

2774
03:09:08,959 --> 03:09:13,840
Speaker 1: thing is the thing is for me for me. If

2775
03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:18,520
Speaker 1: you call my ship, I'm like, damn, pass me up,

2776
03:09:18,680 --> 03:09:22,960
Speaker 1: honey grant or even talking about me? Who what's the

2777
03:09:23,000 --> 03:09:25,800
Speaker 1: lasting you saw me? I never liked you, I never

2778
03:09:25,959 --> 03:09:28,920
Speaker 1: spoke to you. You don't have to know me. Why

2779
03:09:29,000 --> 03:09:34,760
Speaker 1: you're on Drink Champs, a platform that gets this amount

2780
03:09:34,800 --> 03:09:38,640
Speaker 1: of US per episode? Why called my name? I'm not

2781
03:09:38,800 --> 03:09:42,080
Speaker 1: trying to be famous. I'm not selling anything. Why me

2782
03:09:42,840 --> 03:09:45,760
Speaker 1: leave me out of your mouth. You don't know me, chap, right,

2783
03:09:45,800 --> 03:09:47,840
Speaker 1: and when I catch you, I might put blood in

2784
03:09:47,879 --> 03:09:51,360
Speaker 1: your mouth. Right, I'm not safe. Leave me the funk alone.

2785
03:09:51,720 --> 03:09:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm watching the episode and I'm listening to this dude

2786
03:09:54,280 --> 03:10:01,119
Speaker 1: call my name, and then it's it's lies connected to it, right,

2787
03:10:01,800 --> 03:10:06,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, first of all, what you're saying isn't correct.

2788
03:10:07,520 --> 03:10:11,840
Speaker 1: That's number one, it's a lie, and you're doing that

2789
03:10:11,959 --> 03:10:21,120
Speaker 1: because the camera's on number two. Bro Tupac didn't leave

2790
03:10:21,280 --> 03:10:23,520
Speaker 1: you to come to the studio. He was at ron

2791
03:10:23,600 --> 03:10:26,560
Speaker 1: Gie's house doing a mixtape. You fucking sucker, And when

2792
03:10:26,600 --> 03:10:29,959
Speaker 1: I catch you, I'm gonna put blood in your mouth, right,

2793
03:10:30,959 --> 03:10:35,280
Speaker 1: that's my thing. And then you have a case looming

2794
03:10:35,360 --> 03:10:38,760
Speaker 1: over your head for embezzling money, You fucking sucker. Your

2795
03:10:38,840 --> 03:10:42,240
Speaker 1: dad cool out, be cool, talk about you. Don't talk

2796
03:10:42,280 --> 03:10:46,040
Speaker 1: about me. You're not that guy. Be cool. You was

2797
03:10:46,120 --> 03:10:49,120
Speaker 1: with the Fuji's Yo sould the Moose records in hip hop,

2798
03:10:49,480 --> 03:10:52,600
Speaker 1: talk about that. I didn't sell no records there, I

2799
03:10:52,720 --> 03:11:01,400
Speaker 1: got checks, I grabbed bags. It's me at all. I

2800
03:11:01,480 --> 03:11:03,840
Speaker 1: don't want that. I don't want that. I don't want

2801
03:11:03,879 --> 03:11:05,560
Speaker 1: you to calling my name. So if you're on a

2802
03:11:05,640 --> 03:11:11,680
Speaker 1: platform after selling twenty million records, it's something about you

2803
03:11:11,800 --> 03:11:14,920
Speaker 1: that ain't right. And when I catch you. But you

2804
03:11:15,000 --> 03:11:17,920
Speaker 1: get on this platform and you talk about how you

2805
03:11:18,160 --> 03:11:21,360
Speaker 1: were broken because you didn't produce music like White Blaff,

2806
03:11:21,520 --> 03:11:24,880
Speaker 1: you didn't write music like Lauren, and then when the

2807
03:11:25,280 --> 03:11:29,960
Speaker 1: group disbanded, you were stuck and left alone and he

2808
03:11:30,040 --> 03:11:32,039
Speaker 1: didn't have no way to get any money, and you're

2809
03:11:32,040 --> 03:11:36,280
Speaker 1: started dazzling bread and you had to borrow money from

2810
03:11:36,280 --> 03:11:38,960
Speaker 1: street niggas, and niggas caught you and smacked your head

2811
03:11:39,000 --> 03:11:43,400
Speaker 1: off in the car for sevent talk about that because

2812
03:11:43,400 --> 03:11:46,520
Speaker 1: you won't hear from me when I catch your blood

2813
03:11:46,560 --> 03:11:49,000
Speaker 1: in your mouth. So when I watched the Drink Champs

2814
03:11:49,000 --> 03:11:51,560
Speaker 1: and I heard my name, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, damn,

2815
03:11:51,760 --> 03:12:04,440
Speaker 1: people still thinking about me. It's a great way in

2816
03:12:04,520 --> 03:12:17,320
Speaker 1: the picture. There. Thanks for joining us for another episode

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03:12:17,360 --> 03:12:19,720
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