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Speaker 1: Advice and low All. Welcome to the Naughty Point Night Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter with our friend Mark Loopo,

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Speaker 1: who I believe he's back at his mommy's house, Doris's

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Speaker 1: house in the Suburbs Market. You there, Hello, Rob, Hello,

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Speaker 1: are you at Doris's? I am a Doris is still.

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Speaker 1: I'm still lounging and relaxing. It's like a summer cab.

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Speaker 1: You have hit the jackpot with this mother of yours.

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Speaker 1: Is she cooking for you? It's kind of ridiculous they do.

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Speaker 1: They've literally weed Army Hannon tell me she doesn't do

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Speaker 1: your laundry. Mark By Laundry is delivered weekly, fresh and forward.

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Speaker 1: You're amongst the mean one. My favorite moment of the

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Speaker 1: entire week is you. You were doing in Skypeer zoom

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Speaker 1: interview with a with a celebrity and we had a

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Speaker 1: little surprise play what I'm talking about. Yes, my brother Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: who's visiting for the week, um walked into my interview.

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Speaker 1: My zoom interview crashed it. I was interviewing Rachel Lee

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Speaker 1: Cook from She's All That, She's a ninety star. She

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Speaker 1: was so nice about it, she laughed. She asked him

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Speaker 1: to come back into the shot, she says hello, and

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Speaker 1: when I asked him what he was doing after, he

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Speaker 1: was like, I just wanted to get my lunch and

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Speaker 1: I thought if I ducked down, no one would see me. Well,

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Speaker 1: you agree at the time. Now you're laughing about it

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Speaker 1: because it's turned into a little bit of a sensation.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves Jonathan in the background. But I was watching

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Speaker 1: your face while it was happening. You would not smile

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Speaker 1: in b Rob. I think you know me well enough

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Speaker 1: to know that I was not thrilled at the moment,

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Speaker 1: But looking back now, I kind of it was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: So you could hear his footsteps, you could hear Jonathan

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Speaker 1: walking into the room, and you're like, dude, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: an interview that's on camera, that's going to be on

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Speaker 1: this weekly's website. What are you doing. I couldn't believe

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Speaker 1: that he was doing it, and I was like, of

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Speaker 1: all things, it's like it's it's so hard to work.

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Speaker 1: You do your best and you want things to be perfect,

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Speaker 1: and then these moments happen. But you have to laugh,

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Speaker 1: you know. It was like a five minute into a

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Speaker 1: ten minute interview. He couldn't wait for his sandwich for

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Speaker 1: ten minutes. I guess he was really hungry. Jonathan, it

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Speaker 1: might be my new favorite LOOPO. He's cute too. He's

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Speaker 1: a little younger than Mark, but he's very very cute.

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Speaker 1: Okay with my new favorite. What time is it? Hey?

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Speaker 1: We have a huge exclusive today. So yesterday we broke

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Speaker 1: all the news about why the Kardashians were leaving e

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Speaker 1: why that contract was coming to an end and not

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Speaker 1: being renewed. Yes, it's basically about money. It got picked

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Speaker 1: up on the Drudge Report, so we had a ton

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Speaker 1: of traffic yesterday, So thank you for that. If you're

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Speaker 1: a new listener, Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: We don't always talk about Mars brother every show, but

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Speaker 1: this story is even better I think. So I hit

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Speaker 1: the phones really hard to figure out what is going

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Speaker 1: on with the Kardashians. My sources, top sources tell me

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Speaker 1: that we might have seen the end of keeping up

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Speaker 1: with the Kardashians, but we haven't seen the end of

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Speaker 1: keeping up with our friend Kim Kardashian. Kim is already

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Speaker 1: in talks to do her own solo show without her family.

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Speaker 1: I think we can agree, or Kim certainly would that

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Speaker 1: Kim was the star of that ensemble show, even though

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Speaker 1: entire family. So when Kim started keeping up with the

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Speaker 1: Kardashians over a decade ago, she was only twenty seven

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Speaker 1: years old. And when she was twenty seven, she just

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Speaker 1: wanted to be famous. Remember she was hanging out with

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Speaker 1: So all the paperwork, the contracts, the deals, her mom,

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Speaker 1: Chris was in charge of that. Kim now is a

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Speaker 1: she knows the contract. I am not implying that she

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Speaker 1: was screwed over by her mom. That's not the case. However,

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Speaker 1: he bought the show and gave the family a budget.

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Speaker 1: It was a huge budget. It was thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: a season. But out of that thirty million, Chris and

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Speaker 1: a lot of paychecks. Admittedly, it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: So they all did really well. Nothing bad here, However,

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Speaker 1: Kim just saw how much money Harry and Meghan got

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Speaker 1: told Kim is already talking to Netflix about doing her

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Speaker 1: a huge success without the family. Like justin Timberlake did

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Speaker 1: the differences, they were friends, not family members. This is

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Speaker 1: a little bit brutal. What do you think, Mark, Rob,

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see a show about Kim Kardashian

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Speaker 1: going it alone. I feel like her and Kanye will

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Speaker 1: eventually split up and will follow Kim on her new

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Speaker 1: life as she's deeds and she's as she's a single mom,

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Speaker 1: and then perhaps you know, Chloe will drop him with Tristan.

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Speaker 1: We'll see Chris every now and again. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: see a toned down version of the Kardashians, but on Netflix,

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Speaker 1: and I'm definitely here for it. I am too. I

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Speaker 1: know she annoys everybody. I know she gets on everyone's nerves,

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Speaker 1: including mine and Marks, but there is something great TV

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Speaker 1: about her. She's just fascinating and you cannot argue that

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Speaker 1: is the most successful reality show of all time. Forget

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Speaker 1: reality show, it's the most one of the most successful

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Speaker 1: shows of all time. Maybe not quality wise, it's up

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Speaker 1: and made a ton of money. Ryan Seacrest, who was

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Speaker 1: up at a Kardashian family barbecue over a decade ago

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Speaker 1: then pitched it to E and that was how this

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Speaker 1: thing started. He said, they have changed television. I think

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Speaker 1: that is true. Our pole question of the day is

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian is already in talks for a spin off show.

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Speaker 1: Will you watch a solo Kim? Yes or no? Go?

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Speaker 1: Vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob or

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Speaker 1: a Facebook page. You can leave a comment Naughty Gossip

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Mark.

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Speaker 1: What are you working on that, Rob? I have a

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Speaker 1: fun story for you. It's a Bravo house Wires related story.

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Speaker 1: They just released the new trailer or the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City and I am totally here course

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Speaker 1: of course, So Rob, if you didn't know, Salt Lake

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Speaker 1: City is actually the home of the Mormon religion. So

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Speaker 1: when I think Mormon, I think, yeah, I think you

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Speaker 1: know nice people, people who are not exactly brotherly and sisterly,

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Speaker 1: love well This is not going to be the Danna

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Speaker 1: Moratio by any means. So we met the cast briefly.

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Speaker 1: Meredith is Jewish, Mary is Pentsta coastal Leah is Jewish

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Speaker 1: by heritage and Mormon by choice, and both Whitney and

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Speaker 1: Jen have left the Mormon at church. Now from the trailer,

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Speaker 1: we can see there's going to be some fighting, There's

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Speaker 1: going to be some tears and some laughter. Rob, are

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Speaker 1: watch the trailer and it does look awfully exciting, and

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Speaker 1: having this religious element is certainly new to brother. They've

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Speaker 1: If you're listening, brother, ladies, I think I'm done with

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Speaker 1: the housewives. I used to be so into it. I

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Speaker 1: used to watch you every week, giggling. There's too many

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Speaker 1: think I'm going to get into it. I might be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but you're really into this mark. There's not enough Housewives

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Speaker 1: for you yet. You know it's funny, Rob, I, me

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Speaker 1: and my friends agree that there's the older franchises. Some

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen before and other franchises. So I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about Salt Lake City. I

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Speaker 1: don't really know a lot about Mormon people. So I'll

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Speaker 1: last night. This is a terrific story. So yesterday, after

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Speaker 1: It's over, there was ton of buzz that Chris Jenna

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Speaker 1: not true. Chris is not joining because they can't pay

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Speaker 1: her enough. That's right. Sources told me. Chris is the creator,

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Speaker 1: so why would she want to go from doing that

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Speaker 1: She would not get that with the Housewives. Andy Cohen

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Speaker 1: be right here. She has more success than Andy in

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Speaker 1: the TV world she created keeping Up with the Cardassians,

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Speaker 1: take it or leave it, life gets better. It really

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Speaker 1: really does. So whatever you're carrying, and I know there

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Speaker 1: is one If you're carrying a secret right now, if

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Speaker 1: you expose yourself, life gets easier. Does that make any sense? Mark?

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Speaker 1: Of course it makes so much sense. And I agree.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's not just gay people who have secrets.

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Speaker 1: There's all of us carry something deep within us that

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Speaker 1: you know, hold us back and with our heavily on

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Speaker 1: is your coming out story with Doris? Was she? Was

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Speaker 1: You know, I it took a little while, and it

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Speaker 1: My life just opened up in so many more ways. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like myself and I can I can

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Speaker 1: there's something worse than hiding who you are. It really

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Speaker 1: it's not just Cape how is Jonathan having a gay

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Speaker 1: older brother. My brother is so much fun. He's silly,

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Speaker 1: he's crazy, and he's a hippie like he just doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: And yeah he's like and his wife are really cute.

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Speaker 1: They just life. Oh yeah he's mad. It's the wife

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Speaker 1: there too. Did she want a sandwich where she knew

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Speaker 1: better than to what? So he's a real hippie, laid

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Speaker 1: back guy, but when it comes to food, he's aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Get that sandwich. We ran out of time. Hey, Mark,

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Speaker 1: we love having you every Thursday. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Naughty but Nice with Rob Show,

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Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. Don't forget to subscribe

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be naughty altogether, now you got to

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