WEBVTT - Why NO Arrests in the Anna Kepner Cruise Ship Murder?

0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, January eighth, and almost

0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly two months ago, eighteen year old Anna Kepner was

0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.440
<v Speaker 1>found dead aboard a Carnival cruise ship, and here we

0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:20.079
<v Speaker 1>are two months later, no arrests and very few answers

0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.600
<v Speaker 1>as to what happened to her. And with that, welcome

0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.639
<v Speaker 1>to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we have

0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.680
<v Speaker 1>been looking back robes on some very high profile mysteries, deaths,

0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>investigations that don't have a lot of answers. This one

0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.519
<v Speaker 1>we don't have a lot of answers either, But this

0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.960
<v Speaker 1>has been a fascinating case where little things start leaking

0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>out here in the there to where we're starting to

0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>form a picture at least it seems of what might

0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:45.839
<v Speaker 1>have happened.

0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:50.000
<v Speaker 2>That's right, because this happened in international waters. It's the

0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:55.240
<v Speaker 2>FBI's jurisdiction, and the FBI is notoriously tight liped. They

0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.840
<v Speaker 2>do not show their hand, they do not give any

0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.600
<v Speaker 2>indication as to where their investigation is headed. And so

0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the only reason why we have any information is because

0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.240
<v Speaker 2>there is a custody dispute going on between Anna Kepner's

0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:15.880
<v Speaker 2>stepmother and her ex husband involving this stepbrother who we

0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.920
<v Speaker 2>now know is a suspect only because of court documents

0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>in this custody case.

0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, did you get all that? I know

0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the story well, and I was and that was still confusing. No,

0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.360
<v Speaker 1>not confusing everything with one hundred percent right, that is

0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.120
<v Speaker 1>what this case has been, very confusing. Let's go back

0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to last November. Anna Keeptner, eighteen years old from Titusville, Florida,

0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>went on a cruise. She had her dad, stepmom, the

0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>step mom's two kids, and her grandparents. So correct, whole

0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.399
<v Speaker 1>family is together, and Anna Kaepner is sharing a room

0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with one of the step siblings. Both step siblings, including

0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:53.560
<v Speaker 1>her sixteen year old stepbrother. She's found dead on November seventh.

0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Robes and the way she was found may clear. It's

0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.960
<v Speaker 1>clear someone tried to hide or cover up something.

0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Correct, it was I believe a a house cleaner who

0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.840
<v Speaker 2>came in a cleaning crew around eleven am on November

0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.480
<v Speaker 2>seventh and found her under the bed with life jackets

0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:16.399
<v Speaker 2>and blankets trying to cover the body. And pretty quickly

0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I will say we did get a cause of death.

0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.400
<v Speaker 2>That was information came out very quickly, and that it

0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.560
<v Speaker 2>completely went dry but they were able to tell us.

0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Authorities were able to tell us that Anna Kapner, eighteen

0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.800
<v Speaker 2>years old, died from mechanical asphyxia. They say she was

0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:37.280
<v Speaker 2>mechanically asphyxiated by other persons, so they labeled it a

0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.799
<v Speaker 2>homicide from the get go. There was no question as

0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.360
<v Speaker 2>to how she died. We know it was at the

0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.919
<v Speaker 2>hands of someone else, but they haven't said who, if

0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.240
<v Speaker 2>any suspects there are.

0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Officially, yes, they haven't given us that information. So move

0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.840
<v Speaker 1>forward to the next part of the story and the

0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.000
<v Speaker 1>story you were telling rogues. Is that the reason we

0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.160
<v Speaker 1>have the information we have now Again we talked about

0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this being a blended family, step mom, step siblings. Well,

0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the step mom is involved in a custody dispute with

0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:11.240
<v Speaker 1>her ex husband. Now, as a matter of that dispute,

0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they had to make some court filings en roped. It's

0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.320
<v Speaker 1>in one of those court filings is where it is.

0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.840
<v Speaker 1>At least from her words, she is saying her son

0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.799
<v Speaker 1>is being considered a suspect by the FBI.

0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.920
<v Speaker 2>That's right in the latest court filing, at least the

0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.960
<v Speaker 2>one that got everyone's attention. This is the language that

0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.560
<v Speaker 2>was in the document. It is true that there is

0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.000
<v Speaker 2>an open investigation regarding the death of the biological daughter

0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.600
<v Speaker 2>of the stepfather and blank, we don't have his name,

0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:46.160
<v Speaker 2>but the sixteen year old is a suspect regarding this death,

0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.200
<v Speaker 2>which occurred recently on a cruise ship. So that is

0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.280
<v Speaker 2>as plain as it gets in this court filing. The

0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:57.120
<v Speaker 2>sixteen year old stepbrother is a suspect in the murder

0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.200
<v Speaker 2>of eighteen year old Anna Kepner.

0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And again, and you look, no speculation and nothing to

0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.040
<v Speaker 1>put there, but people are piecing this together that just

0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.920
<v Speaker 1>no one else was around. You remind me, and I'm

0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.960
<v Speaker 1>sorry I'm completely missing this, but as far as the

0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.200
<v Speaker 1>comings and goings, they are aware that nobody else was

0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.680
<v Speaker 1>in and out of that stateroom.

0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Correct, There is surveillance video. There are cameras all throughout

0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.600
<v Speaker 2>that cruise ship. And they have made a note that

0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the only person who came and left Anna Kepner's room

0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.120
<v Speaker 2>was the step brother. From the time they know she

0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.919
<v Speaker 2>went in there alive until the time she was found dead,

0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.839
<v Speaker 2>he was the only person who came and went.

0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then we find out more. Again, the official

0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.000
<v Speaker 1>information comes from official court filings in this other dispute,

0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.839
<v Speaker 1>but there are ropes. We found out that he was

0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.599
<v Speaker 1>at a facility, We found out about some of the

0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.640
<v Speaker 1>things he's been saying to family members. And this call

0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:58.039
<v Speaker 1>comes again from some court documents that show text messages

0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:02.000
<v Speaker 1>between the boy's mother and father, who is her ex husband.

0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and a lot of people have made a point

0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:09.520
<v Speaker 2>will go through them that the text messages said nothing

0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.279
<v Speaker 2>about really about the death of Anna Kaepner, about the

0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.800
<v Speaker 2>loss of Anna Keepner. It was all about protecting and

0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:23.080
<v Speaker 2>perhaps massaging public opinion about their son. So the first

0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.359
<v Speaker 2>text is at seven thirty pm on November seventh, that

0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.400
<v Speaker 2>is the day they found Anna Kaepner's body. Within about

0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.800
<v Speaker 2>six hours of that discovery, Chantelle, which is the stepmom,

0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.520
<v Speaker 2>wrote to her ex husband, we'll call him Tim, that's

0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.400
<v Speaker 2>his name. I need you to call me asap. It's

0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:44.520
<v Speaker 2>an emergency. The next text is the following day, and

0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.720
<v Speaker 2>they are talking about their younger daughter. She doesn't know

0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.719
<v Speaker 2>anything about her brother. The only thing I told her

0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.320
<v Speaker 2>is that he was having a hard time coping with

0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.080
<v Speaker 2>losing Anna. So he's getting checked out by the hospital.

0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.800
<v Speaker 2>We know that the stepbrother was immediately when the ship

0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.640
<v Speaker 2>came into doc sent straight to a medical facility to

0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:12.800
<v Speaker 2>be evaluated. He was that emotional, apparently, and then the

0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.880
<v Speaker 2>next day. This is very interesting, Chantelle texts her ex

0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.840
<v Speaker 2>husband on November ninth. I was able to talk with

0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the step brother last night for under two minutes. Briefly.

0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.960
<v Speaker 2>He just keeps repeating over and over. He can't remember

0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:29.880
<v Speaker 2>everything that made headlines.

0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.480
<v Speaker 1>He said everything, he said anything.

0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Anything, Sorry, he can't remember anything.

0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's all he repeated. I don't know what to

0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.400
<v Speaker 1>make of that, and no one does. But there is

0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.840
<v Speaker 1>something that happened on the ship. It's almost as if

0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.680
<v Speaker 1>he's acknowledging something happened, but he can't remember that thing.

0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to make of that, but a

0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are making something of that. This is man,

0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.320
<v Speaker 1>this is this is awful. What happened? It could have been.

0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.800
<v Speaker 1>You can explain all kinds of accidents. I'm sure he'll

0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.000
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been charged with anything. Now, let's start there.

0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been charged and hasn't been named officially as

0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.919
<v Speaker 1>a suspect by any law enforcement arm has he That

0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:06.320
<v Speaker 1>is correct.

0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.000
<v Speaker 2>The FBI is the only entity investigating, and they're not

0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.800
<v Speaker 2>going to announce the suspect. They're going to announce an arrest.

0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.920
<v Speaker 2>They're going to announce charges, but before that they will not.

0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting because if you see, I hate to

0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.240
<v Speaker 2>call it damage control, but that is what's going on

0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.160
<v Speaker 2>between the two parents the ex husband, right, I wrote,

0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I just want him to know that he isn't just

0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.560
<v Speaker 2>dead to everyone, regardless of everything. At the moment, he

0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.200
<v Speaker 2>needs his parents. I know you know that. I would

0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.560
<v Speaker 2>just like to have a chance to talk with him

0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.160
<v Speaker 2>as soon as possible. Sean Tell writes, nobody knows anything

0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.840
<v Speaker 2>about him. He is a minor and has been kept

0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.040
<v Speaker 2>completely out of it. We have not said anything to anybody,

0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.560
<v Speaker 2>and we are we will try our best to keep

0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:53.640
<v Speaker 2>completely out. We'll know exactly more when the autopsy is done.

0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Once we get the autopsy today. Depending on what it says,

0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.200
<v Speaker 2>it will depend on whether he's booked on these charges.

0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.040
<v Speaker 2>What's interesting about that is that we did get the autopsy,

0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.080
<v Speaker 2>and we did get a cause of death, and it

0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.120
<v Speaker 2>is asphyxiation. They actually didn't they say it was with

0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a choke hold done by someone else, So that's interesting.

0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.080
<v Speaker 2>She felt like once they determined it was murder, once

0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.560
<v Speaker 2>they determined she was exphyxiated, that their son was likely

0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:22.400
<v Speaker 2>going to face charges.

0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it sound to you like the parents knew he was.

0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.120
<v Speaker 1>He had a hand at least the mom in these

0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.480
<v Speaker 1>exchanges like an expectation he's going to be charged. Was

0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing in that said yeah, he was nowhere near this.

0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh he said he walked in and that was none

0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of that. And this is a moment where they never

0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.080
<v Speaker 1>thought their text messages would be released, so they're talking correct.

0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And so this last one also was getting a lot

0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:45.400
<v Speaker 1>of buzz. She writes.

0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know everything is supposed to be hush hush

0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.079
<v Speaker 2>for now, but I've seen that it is still getting

0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.120
<v Speaker 2>out with posts and comments between Facebook, TikTok and stuff.

0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure, until things are certain,

0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.960
<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't get any unnecessary comments towards There is

0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.960
<v Speaker 2>nothing in here that says he is innocent. He did nothing.

0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I know my child, we know our kid. He would

0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:11.000
<v Speaker 2>never do this. I'm blown away at the accusations. This

0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:17.600
<v Speaker 2>is so it's all about controlling the damage, controlling the narrative,

0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.679
<v Speaker 2>about protecting him, and I get that as a parent,

0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:26.679
<v Speaker 2>I totally get that. But what's absent and what's missing,

0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.959
<v Speaker 2>which is so notable, is that there's no talk about

0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.199
<v Speaker 2>him being innocent whatsoever.

0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.800
<v Speaker 1>You know there, You know it's to some point and

0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.000
<v Speaker 1>any parent listening can relate to you immediately no matter what.

0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Want to do right by your child and want to

0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.280
<v Speaker 1>protect your child the best you can, of course, and

0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you certainly don't want to believe your child is capable

0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of anything like this. And also robes this could have

0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.720
<v Speaker 1>been it's some kind of horseplay or tragic accident. Did

0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a sixteen year old have the intent of killing his

0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:58.319
<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old stepsister? Hope not, but something happened to

0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.679
<v Speaker 1>her at the hands of some else, and to think

0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:05.320
<v Speaker 1>it was another teenager who's in her family is just

0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.080
<v Speaker 1>horrific for this family, as we said, and we want

0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.840
<v Speaker 1>answers and are waiting and whatnot. Man, this family is

0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.400
<v Speaker 1>going through it, and they went through it. We talked

0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.720
<v Speaker 1>about him over the holidays. They miss Thanksgiving and Christmas.

0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Not just that she's not there, but the whole family

0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.679
<v Speaker 1>now is split because the step siblings are here and

0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the family's over here and all this stuff. But stay

0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.240
<v Speaker 1>with us, folks, and all we're talking about is sixteen

0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.280
<v Speaker 1>year old. Where exactly is he right now? We'll get

0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.560
<v Speaker 1>into that and also we'll let you know what other

0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.120
<v Speaker 1>family members have been saying about this young man.

0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, everyone. We are giving you an update of

0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the latest information about the murder of Anna Kepner. She

0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.880
<v Speaker 2>was the eighteen year old Florida teen who was found

0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.679
<v Speaker 2>dead in her cabin on a cruise ship, a Carnival

0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Horizon cruise ship. She was on a family vacation and

0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.640
<v Speaker 2>because of court documents involved in a custody case, we

0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.280
<v Speaker 2>know from those documents that her stepbrother, her sixteen year

0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:20.920
<v Speaker 2>old stepbrother, is a suspect in the investigation. The FBI

0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is actually conducting the investigation because this happened in international

0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.320
<v Speaker 2>waters and they notoriously do not give any information. So

0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the information we do have is coming out from these

0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:36.120
<v Speaker 2>court documents. And we know that the stepbrother is now

0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:41.560
<v Speaker 2>no longer understandably living with his mother, Anna Kepner, and

0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.160
<v Speaker 2>his stepfather, of course, the father of Anna Kepner. So

0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.600
<v Speaker 2>she and her ex agreed in November, and we all

0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.880
<v Speaker 2>know this through the court documents, to send him to

0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a family member on Florida's west coast, because Anna Kapner said, yeah,

0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.079
<v Speaker 2>he can't return to our Titus Phill home. Can you

0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.040
<v Speaker 2>imagine though, what that marriage is going through right now?

0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Your son potentially killed my daughter. How do you how

0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.480
<v Speaker 2>does that family not just get through the holidays that

0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.600
<v Speaker 2>they've had to get through, but just get through life?

0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.600
<v Speaker 1>You said potentially, Where is it fair to say we're

0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the ones and investigators are saying potentially? Don't these people

0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:23.000
<v Speaker 1>probably know?

0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, what happened, right, Yes, And it seems I cannot

0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:34.120
<v Speaker 2>imagine being able to survive that as in a relationship,

0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's a tough Like you see the pictures of

0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.520
<v Speaker 2>these of this family and you see them vacationing together

0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and all these family photos, and they all look very

0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.520
<v Speaker 2>happy and very united, and this is difficult. We also know,

0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.840
<v Speaker 2>just in terms of the step brother from these court documents,

0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.760
<v Speaker 2>his mom said that he had not been taking pills

0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.880
<v Speaker 2>for insomnia for the last few days on that trip

0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.880
<v Speaker 2>on that cruise ship, and that he also was supposed

0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.040
<v Speaker 2>to be taking pills regularly for that and for his ADHD.

0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.760
<v Speaker 2>So that was a part of the court documents that

0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.160
<v Speaker 2>when he went to this other family member to ensure

0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that he was taking his medication. I don't know how

0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that would play into any sort of potential defense if

0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.360
<v Speaker 2>he is charged at some point, but that was made

0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.480
<v Speaker 2>note of as well, and really the only indication we

0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:28.079
<v Speaker 2>have about their relationship we heard from the grandmother who

0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.520
<v Speaker 2>was on the cruise ship earlier, and she had nothing

0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.280
<v Speaker 2>but glowing things to say about the relationship between Anna

0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.920
<v Speaker 2>and her stepbrother, which is also puzzling. She said, there

0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.160
<v Speaker 2>were two peas in a pod.

0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:46.320
<v Speaker 1>What happened? Just what happened in that room? I just

0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll wait and want to hear. But I would like

0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.640
<v Speaker 1>to believe that a sixteen year old does not have

0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a desire to kill his step sister, And so we'll

0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.360
<v Speaker 1>find out maybe what happened in there, But just an

0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.880
<v Speaker 1>awful story for a young lady was supposed to be

0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:05.920
<v Speaker 1>graduation from high school. I believe this this spring. Yeah,

0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it's awful, but again it's one folks. You can go

0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:12.280
<v Speaker 1>back through our feed here you'll see that this week

0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.600
<v Speaker 1>we have gone back and revisited some of these cases.

0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Martha Nolan, the death in montac David the singer who

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.600
<v Speaker 1>dead body was found in his trunk a teenager. That

0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.320
<v Speaker 1>case is still going on, and now this one as well.

0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I was just saying, you wonder in these cases,

0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.560
<v Speaker 2>as you just listed those all several of them have

0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a very well documented potential suspect, and it's just curious

0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.640
<v Speaker 2>as to what it takes what prosecutors are potentially trying

0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.520
<v Speaker 2>to do behind the scenes to make sure they have

0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.240
<v Speaker 2>all their ducks in a row before they bring charges

0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.120
<v Speaker 2>and before they potentially but there's time to actually present

0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.840
<v Speaker 2>a case. So I'm just it's curious to me what

0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.320
<v Speaker 2>the decision is to.

0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Wait, you know, you want to get it right. These

0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.520
<v Speaker 1>are very high profile cases that we have seen defense

0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:07.080
<v Speaker 1>attorneys dismantle in court based on things that are happening

0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.200
<v Speaker 1>right now, investigative things going on that we don't know about.

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So yes, as a public, as journalists here waiting for

0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.680
<v Speaker 1>answers and waiting for the story to actually come out.

0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And this is one I defer and I have to

0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.600
<v Speaker 1>give them all they're just do for. And ha's the

0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.960
<v Speaker 1>patience for these cases because I cannot imagine behind the

0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.920
<v Speaker 1>scenes what it takes to make sure you got it

0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.840
<v Speaker 1>right to bring somebody to justice and make sure you

0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.800
<v Speaker 1>can get a conviction just about and arrest.

0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Justice is oftentimes, especially in this country, very slow. We

0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:44.360
<v Speaker 2>have certainly documented that and seen that. I think what

0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the grandmother had to say, really kind of moved me,

0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.520
<v Speaker 2>she said. When they kept asking her about the relationship,

0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.320
<v Speaker 2>she said, I can't accuse him because I don't know

0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.680
<v Speaker 2>what happened in that realm. And I think that's where

0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.080
<v Speaker 2>we all are right now, and we will wait to

0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.400
<v Speaker 2>see what investigats readers tell us when the time comes,

0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and we will of course be following this story as

0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.720
<v Speaker 2>well as all of those others for you, and as

0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.080
<v Speaker 2>news becomes available, we will bring it to you. So

0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.680
<v Speaker 2>we appreciate you as always listening to us. I'm a

0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Mee Roebuck alongside t. J.

0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Holmes. We will talk to you soon.