1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Welcome back 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: to the show. My name is Matt, my name is 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We are joined as always with 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: our super producer Paul Michig, control dec and in spirit. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Because our guest super producer, Maya Cole is on the 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Ones and Tues today, give it up for her. Most importantly, 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: you are you. You are here, and that makes this 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. So check in. 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: First thing's first catch up checking. Well, yeah, so this week, 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: you guys, I went to Chuck E Cheese because my 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: son turned four yesterday. As as we're recording this and 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: um that that robot casino was fabulous. Sorry, we're recording, sir, sir, 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Hello sir, what's going on in here? Hey? Wait a second? 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Oh is this the uh? Is this the podcast? I 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: feel like I read conspiracies? Uh? Yeah, that's adorable. I'm 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: such a fan. What are I'm I'm sorry, I'm John Hodgment. 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I used to be on television. Sometimes I thought I 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: that's right, John Hodgman, that's yeah. I have a podcast 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, were the side. I don't know what 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: you were talking about. Yeah, No, I was a PC 24 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: on the Apple Ads and uh, you know, I don't 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: know what else on my resume. I've traveled all over 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: the world. I've been in the upper echelons of fame, 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: and I've been granted a lot of exclusive access to 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot of uh secret rooms and hidden parties and 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: stuff that you're not supposed to know, but I do. 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: You didn't write a book about it, did you. Uh? Yeah, 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: I did. Actually it's called Medallion Status. But that's not 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: why I'm here. I'm just you know, I was just 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: traveling through the secret tunnels on my way to U 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: secret World Government event and uh yeah, I have a 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: secret door right into your into your room here, so 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I thought I was just check in and say hi, 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: I hear you're talking about the secret societies a little bit. 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: So thanks for coming. I always wonder what that door 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: was for. Yeah, that just leads to the to the 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: platform for the Golden Funicular the people of my status 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: get to use. God, this is some real deranged billionaires. 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Well that is the character that I used to play 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: on the Daily Show. But Gau, it's just me. I mean, 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: there is a secret door here and I'm on my 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: way to a secret meeting, but it's just me. John Hodgman, 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to tell. The lines are blurring so much 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: right now, Host of The Judge Show, Hodgman podcast and 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: author of the new book Medallion Status True Stories from 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Secret Rooms, which has a portion in it. This is 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: a This is a book that's mostly about my my, 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: uh my job as a famous minor television personality and 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: what happened after, how unlikely and unusual it was that 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I should be on camera at all the strange things 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: that happened to me while I was there, And then 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: what happened after I lost that job and panicked and 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: started chasing a new kind of status as a Diamond 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: Medallion member on the Delta, trying to become Diamond Medallion 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: in the Delta Frequent Flyer program. That's Verified Air. It's 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want I don't want to. 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away the story of the book. 61 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: But I got it. I got I went diamond, I 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: went dime, John, and I appeared on His Dear Friend 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant's movie podcast earlier today, and I disclosed that 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I am approaching silver medallion status, and I was told 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: that that is a trash status. What us just some 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: nonsense words came out of your head just then. I'm 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: sorry that it's as they say in West World. I 68 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: don't that doesn't look like anything to me. I don't 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: understand what you're talking about. That silver is a trash 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: medow hurting my ears. You've got a silver So how 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: does that compare to just like a guy who travels 72 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: coach and doesn't have a medallion at all? Well, what 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: does the medallion look like? It's an imaginary medillion. It 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: is a dumb, imaginary prize that I became obsessed with 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: when my TV show is canceled and I had stopped 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: working on the Daily Show and I wasn't on TV anymore. 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: And as a lot of people do when their status 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: starts to slip, whether whether you are uh losing a 79 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: television job, or you're you're you're aging out of your 80 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: own job, or you're getting older as a parent and 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: your kids don't think you're a celebrity anymore, or you're 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: a member of the rural white working class, and you 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: feel that the privilege that is due to you as 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: being taken away, and therefore you vote for a particular president. 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: People do irrational things with political silver medallion talk, right, 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna freak people out. I don't know. I think 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: you hit this universal, this universal key though, and I 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: want to I want to hear more because I myself, 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: not being a Diamond Medallion member, have moved adjacent. I 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: would see your name on that. You would know everyone. Yeah, 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I would get a little notification, there's a little ceremony. 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: What I do notice is they actually say I'm not 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Diamond medallion member anymore. I got it and I lost it. 94 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: But that's the whole point. That's the that's what makes 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: if you qualify for a certain medallion level, be at 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: uh gold, be at platinum, be a diamond. Those are 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: the only ones. Silver is a garbage medallion because it 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: just as a taunt. It reminds you that you're the 99 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: worst kind of medallions. It's better to be nothing than 100 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: to be a silver medial. They're all imaginary prizes that 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: you earn if you earn a certain amount of medallion 102 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: qualifying miles through travel and credit card spending by the 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: end of the year and then you're locked in. But 104 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: if you don't requalify the next year, then you drop 105 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: down in status. And it's frightening high stakes game. So 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: it's tay addictive video game. Now you were saying, I 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: interrupted always see It's true though. I've moved adjason in 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: those circles and they do say your name when you 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: get on the plane. That's what That's what got me started. 110 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: We'd like to welcome you know. Oh yeah, it's a 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: it's a big to do. When I had before this 112 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: TV show that I was on, I was I was 113 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: the the third best friend in this TV comedy called 114 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: Married on on FX that ran for two seasons. Was 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: great and then, like all television, got canceled. But when 116 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it was cooking, I was flying. I was being flown 117 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: across the country over and over and over and over 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: again to work, and they were paying for my flight, 119 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: and they were contractually oblu paying me first class. I 120 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: was racking up the m q ms, the down qualifying miles. 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: I didn't even know this was happening. I didn't even 122 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: care until one day I was boarding a plane to 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: go home and the gate agent says, as as she 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: scanned in my ticket. Thank you, Mr Hodgman for being gold. 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for being gold. Was so powerful, like to 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: an only child who exists, you know, who requires praise 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: and acknowledgement like oxygen, like to be thanked for just 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: for being never mind for being gold. I mean I 129 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: always thought it was gold, you know what I mean. 130 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: We all think we're gold, or we hope we are gold, 131 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: or we worry that maybe we're not as gold as 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: we think, and then we're just tricking people. But then 133 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: for someone to say, no, you're you're gold, your gold, 134 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Well John has your gold, and then diamond and then 135 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: gold again. Status allowed you in any rooms that most 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: people would never ever even dare to step or ever 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: be allowed. Well, you do, you do get you do 138 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: get a membership to the sky Cloaks, the secret the 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: secret Societies of the Air, which you know, and it's 140 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: like there's not there's not a lot, there's not a 141 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: lot of human sacrifice going on in there. Uh. They 142 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: have some pretty good soups. I have to I have 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: to say they're they're tie chicken soup is pretty good. 144 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: I had tie chicken soup for lunch today from the 145 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Delta Sky Club. No from soup because you're in Atlantic. Yeah, 146 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: it's good. It was really good. It's good. You see. 147 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: The thing. The problem with the one that you had 148 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: made it as good than the ones you get in 149 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: the Delta Sky Club is it was fresh. Probably was fresh. 150 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: You know. I'm the best. I'm gonna and I discussed 151 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: in the book The greatest uh jumbalaya that I've ever 152 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: eaten came out of the crock pot at the at 153 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: the sky the Delta sky Club. It's at Louis Armstrong 154 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: International Airport in New Orleans. The best, the best jumbal 155 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you could get, because all soups and stews deepen in 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: flavor as they sit. They sit at a low temperature 157 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: for hours and days. It just it just got to 158 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: be so so delicious. Those are some secrets of the 159 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Sky Club. But I've also gotten into other secret rooms 160 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: that I think might be more interesting to you because 161 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier, as it were just a normal 162 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: thing that someone would drop by Book and Snake, one 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: of Yale's senior secret societies, for dinner of an evening. 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: But apparently not everyone can do it. Book and Snake. 165 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm only familiar with Skull and Bones. I have to 166 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: leave now, goodbye. Wait, no, I'm not so. I I 167 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: went to I went to Yale, which is an accredited 168 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: four year college in southern Connecticut, and I was not 169 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: a member of Skull and Bones. For people who don't 170 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: know there, but any want to listen to this show 171 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: has to know about the secret societies of Yale. There 172 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: are senior societies. Yale is founded before there were frats, 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: and so they the young, the young privileged men of 174 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: Yale had to find other kinds forms of associations and 175 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: clubs so that they could group off and basically jack 176 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: off together. Before there were frats, you had you had 177 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: secret societies at Yale, which are these senior secret societies 178 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: where they initiate like fifteen to seventeen senior men to 179 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: go into a window lists clubhouse called a tomb and 180 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: tell secrets to each other in lion coffins and hang out. 181 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: Or you joined an acapella group. There's so much acathete. 182 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: It's the per capita amount of acapella and New Haven 183 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: is greater than anywhere else in the world. But what 184 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: really troubles me is no one's doing anything about it. 185 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: They're just letting it happen. There's just like hundreds of 186 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: acapella groups running wild through the New Haven Green I'm 187 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: fascinated by the connective tissue between the two. If there's 188 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: ever any secret acapella groups, well, there probably is a 189 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: little bit of overlap between the Skull and Bonesman and 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: the Wan Poofs, the premier acapella group in the collegiate 191 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: acafella group in the United States and the world, which 192 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: I was not a member of, but I'm still weirdly 193 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: proud of that. But I I was fascinated with secret 194 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: rooms growing up in high school and secret societies and 195 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: the Masons and the Club thirty three before everyone knew 196 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: about it, and all of these rooms. I always wanted 197 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: to go into these rooms that that you couldn't just 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: walk into unless you were invited or whatever, or had 199 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: a golden funicular who could take it to a secret 200 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: panelnge jump into podcast or diamond medallion, diamond medall or 201 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: diamond meddall for example. And it's you know, these arbitrary 202 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: signs of status that that don't don't make you a 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: better person, but make you feel suddenly like you're loved 204 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: by an institution or whatever, It's just it's a sick 205 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: addiction anyway. Basically, the reason I applied to Yelle was 206 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: that they had secret societies, Scalm Bones being the most 207 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: famous one, the Scalm Bones being you know, reputed to 208 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: be the pipeline too, Illuminati superstatus, secret world government control, 209 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: the diamond medallion of Conspirat Diamond medallion. It's like Yale 210 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Skull and Bones. That's the top. Like, you know, oh, 211 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you just went to the Builderberg group once. No, 212 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: this is skull and Bones now it was that? Was 213 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: that an actual secret society? The snake was it isn't 214 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: is an actual one. Yep, they're they're they're across the 215 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: street from the Grove Cemetery in New Haven and a 216 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: giant two and a half story limestone Greek Revival architecturally 217 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: significant edifice that has zero windows. It looks like a tomb. 218 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: They're called tombs. All of these secret societies at Yale. 219 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: We're all um founded by very wealthy young men. They 220 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: had their dad's architects make them. These clubhouses. They're all 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: littered throughout campus. You'll be walking along You're like, there's 222 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: a very handsome looking uh and and an important looking library. 223 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Oh why does it have no windows? Because it's a 224 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: clubhouse for dumb dums. Dumb dum clubhouse for for secret weirdos. 225 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: So set the scene where they all roped up? I 226 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: mean where what was going on? Well, there's all there's 227 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: a limit to what I can reveal here. Wait a second, 228 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: there's also scrolling key. I just want to tell you 229 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: the other ones, Wolf said, scrolling key, Brazelis manuscript, scolland bones, 230 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: book and snake. Those are the Those are the biggins. 231 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I like the ones that sound like combos, you know, 232 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: an bones. Yeah, no, that's you know, there was a 233 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: cross and key once, or there may be a cross 234 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: end key now. But you want to get the big 235 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: big ones. All are blank and blanks. Really yeah, maybe 236 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: we should start something like that, right, it's you start 237 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: the blank and blanks and bags and badgers. But to 238 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: answer your question, no, they don't wear they don't wear robes. 239 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: And I know this because when I was a fresh 240 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: person at Yale, I got invited to a party of 241 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: Book and Snake, and I was very very excited. This 242 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: was new, like this is the reason I had come here, 243 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: and it's here. It is for semester and I got 244 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: so excited that I drank a lot before going to 245 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: the party. And then I went into the party, and 246 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: I I went up to the top of the stairs, 247 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: and then I fell down the stairs. And then I 248 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: woke up in the hospital. And I know that all 249 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: of that happened, because it was told to me that 250 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: had happened. But my only memory is walking up to 251 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the door. And that's the last thing I remember until 252 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: and so it nod at me for my rest of 253 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: my life. First of all, let me give some advice 254 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: to college students. Don't get drunk and fall down the stairs. 255 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: You're not immortal. I'm very, very lucky. I didn't hurt myself, Like, don't, 256 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: don't do it. So to be fair, you don't know 257 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: if they were roped up or not because you were unconscious. 258 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: What was that? What was but I what? But I 259 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: had blacked out? Do you know what I mean? Now, 260 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: there's there's certain people who attended Yale and may or 261 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: may not be sitting on the Supreme Court now who 262 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: believed that blacking out is not a thing that happens. 263 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: The FBI did a whole impression of an investigation. Did 264 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: they did? They did? They did? The Illuminati investigation. It 265 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: was nothing to see here. Investigation are positive. You didn't 266 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: get initiated that night, and that was part of it. 267 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: I had no idea. I mean I had friends who 268 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: were there, one of whom Jonathan Colton, is a musician 269 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: and a dear friend still and a whiffan Poof by 270 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: the way, the most prestigiously an acapella group in the world. 271 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: That's right, friends with a woman poof. You know, I'm 272 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: bragging ya? Is that sort of like hufflepuff? No? Uh, 273 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean it's all it's it isn't so 274 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: far as it's all nonsense words. Guy. Anyway, I uh, 275 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: he was there. He knew, he said he saw me 276 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: in there. I knew that I had been in there. 277 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: It's an nerving thing to have a memory that you 278 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: cannot recall, and especially when you were going into the 279 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: secret society that you wanted to see so badly, and 280 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: you realize that those secret sides are pretty powerful. They 281 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: know how to erase a mind, like they took out 282 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: They took that memory right out of my head. And 283 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: you might be a legend to them. They might be 284 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: hanging out and they're like, oh man, you remember stairs guy, Well, 285 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: he was wild. I don't. I don't know how much 286 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: they thought about me for years and years and years 287 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: until you showed up on TV. And I don't think 288 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: they thought about me then either. I think they started 289 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: thinking about me once I started like telling this story 290 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: in public, and I included it in a book, and 291 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: I and I and I wrote about it online and 292 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I got a call from I got an email from 293 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: CO signed by a man and a woman, both members 294 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: of Book and Snake. I won't reveal their names. We'll 295 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: call them Booker and Snake. You cool. And they said, wait, 296 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: sorry that you have I'm sorry this has been haunting 297 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: you for so long. We often we have a dinner 298 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: every Thursday. We often invite interesting people to join us. 299 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Do you want to have dinner with us? And I 300 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I do, And I was I was 301 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: really excited to go back and see see what see 302 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: what I had seen but couldn't remember having seen. And uh, 303 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much and this and and there's 304 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: more in the book. They're all very nice. No robes, 305 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: the secrets of the secret Society, or these If you're 306 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: invited to a secret society at Yale for dinner, and 307 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: you arrived to the dining room fifteen minutes late. All 308 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: the span of copita will be gone, they sir of uh. 309 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: There was a veal and a fish. The dining rooms 310 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: in the basement, red leather chairs, all with an aura 311 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: boros uh and and and a book inscribed on the back. 312 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: You get to meet with seventeen right young people now 313 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: men and women not. It's obviously and has been. I 314 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: think Book and Snake particularly has been much more diverse 315 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: than the other. Some of the others um there are 316 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: there will be a chaperone there, an older alum to 317 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: make sure that things get don't get out of hand. 318 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Secret of the secret Society Yale Wine and beer only 319 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: smart you know. Uh. And then there's some other they'll 320 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: some alums might come and have dinner with you two 321 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: some more recent alums of of Book and Snake slash Yale. 322 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: So there's a guy named James there who has think 323 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: was in his early thirties, and he had just told 324 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: me that he had been named. He works for the 325 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: city government. He's the transportations are of New Haven. So 326 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I just want to say to any Alex Jones listeners 327 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: out there, if you were worried that the Illuminati, uh 328 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: and secret societies might be controlling the bus and train 329 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: schedules in certain southern Connecticut towns. You're absolutely right. Secret 330 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: societies are running are running the trains in southern Connecticut. 331 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know here in Atlanta, we would 332 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: kill for some secret society involvement in transit. Please let 333 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the r yeah, let me tell, Let me tell James. 334 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I think I have his last name somewhere. And then 335 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: and then the chaperone will leave because he's got to 336 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: go home. Oh that everyone sings a little song. I 337 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: don't remember what it goes, cheveron leaves. And then the 338 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: young people say you want to hang out some more, 339 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: and I'm like sure, And you'll go up to a 340 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: chill room that looks exactly like a college dorm room, 341 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: except no windows. And then they'll reach over to a 342 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: little captain's chest in the corner. And I don't want 343 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: to knock on these kids, But can you guess what 344 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: was in it? Hard alcohol? They are hiding it from 345 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: their own remember, because they still college. I know I 346 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: was initiated into a secret, secret society, within the secret society. 347 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: It was great, But I'll tell you one other thing. 348 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: Sorry follow up questions. Oh, I was just gonna say, 349 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: are you are you okay with disclosing this? Um, well, 350 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: obviously I'm doing it. Why are you? Are you threatened? 351 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Are you threatening and or offering to murder me? No? 352 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Looking after your first little safety. Quite the opposite. They 353 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: book and Snake invited. They've been inviting me into their 354 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: clubhouse for years, started when I was a freshman in college. Embedded. Yeah, 355 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're chilly, they they and in fact, 356 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: you know, they thought it was they thought the story 357 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: was funny. Uh, these secret societies don't control the universe, 358 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't know what's going 359 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: on at Skull and Bones. I knew a guy who 360 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: was in Skull and Bones, and he was like, we 361 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: just sit around, you know, we have dinner. He was 362 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: he was a member of the class that was the 363 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: first to admit. Meant to to tap women to join 364 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: the next year's class. And the alumni got so furious 365 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: that they were trying to make make scalan Bones co 366 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: educational that the alumni members came and changed the locks 367 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: on the tomb to lock them out of their own clubhouse. 368 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: So there these are old institutions that are obviously weird, 369 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: krusty monuments to a certain kind of privilege. But as 370 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: far as I could tell Inside Book and Snake, it's 371 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: just young, young, interesting young people who have been given 372 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: this opportunity to play in a window list building for 373 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: a while and be friends. You know, I don't know 374 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: how serious we want to get with this, but there 375 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: is there is something worth exploring that we've talked about 376 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: before on this show where we we had one election 377 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: where I believe it was George h No, George W. 378 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: Bush and Kerry were both members me and and just 379 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: that concept. But again, if you break if you really 380 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: break it down, it's like there are two members of 381 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: the same fraternity um running together. But I think the nomenclature, 382 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: the title of having it a secret society creates that 383 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: anxiety within me a little bit. But you know, the public, 384 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: of course, I mean, if you if you don't, if 385 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: you don't have diamond medallion and you're not in that 386 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: sky club, you're wondering what's going on behind those doors? Something, 387 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: something is, something freaky is happening people. People are actually 388 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: being treated like human beings in there. Yeah, I think 389 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: that's a very good point. But I'll say something else 390 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: that's true is that, obviously, if you go to an 391 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: an elite college or institution like Yale or many others 392 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: already you're you know, you're forging contacts with people who 393 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: you know statistically are if not likely that you probably 394 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: know some people who are pretty powerful. You know, as 395 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: you look, I became a literary agent and a service journalist, 396 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: and now I'm a carnival jester. You know, I'm nothing. 397 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't have any power, but I definitely know people. 398 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, I remember people from college who are now 399 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: in positions of power. Samantha Power, for example, the former 400 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: the former ambassador to the U n not not not 401 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: not only powerful, but named Power. It's her name. She 402 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: and I were college the same time. I didn't know her, 403 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: but sure. But you know, these institutions do self select 404 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: into into groupings and whether or not, and then if 405 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: you super select into into something like a secret society, 406 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: you know there there is a kind of soft conspiracy 407 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: of acquaintanceship and given people a leg up if possible. 408 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: And it happens in networks of any kind, you know, however, 409 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: whatever kind of trappings churches. I mean, that's a big 410 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: one too. Yeah, exactly. But but that's said, uh that 411 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: there is a there is a secret retreat that I 412 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: attended that I will not name, that is also described 413 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: in the book. Is a retreat that I was surprised 414 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: to be invited to host, hosted by someone who enjoys 415 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: surrounding him or herself with interesting celebrities, business leaders, government officials, 416 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: former government officials, entertainers, writers, artists. It's a wonderful time. 417 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: We all have a great time together. It's all off 418 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: the record. People aren't supposed to talk about what happened. 419 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: There no weaving spiders allowed. There no weaving spiders. So 420 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't the Bohemian Club. No, it was not the 421 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: Union Growth. No, that's I would tell you if I 422 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: gotten that. There's the thing that I want to go 423 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: back to. Okay, it's to and it's totally it's totally 424 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: benign and of an evening they might invite someone like 425 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: gather everyone together for a performance of a kind. And 426 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: this performance was a professional performing pickpocket, an incredibly talented 427 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: performing pickpocket. Well name because he's an amazing person. Abollo 428 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: Robbins is his name, Robbins, Look him up. He is 429 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: so skilled, and his his bit was inviting audience members 430 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: on stage and picking their pockets. And he would invite 431 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: famous people, entertainers or whatever, um up and um, and 432 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: I'll talk to them and said, would you ever breakfast today? 433 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't even see him touch them, And all 434 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: of a sudden he's holding their wristwatch above their head, 435 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: behind them and they didn't know it was gone. But 436 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: the audience sees it, right, and everyone laughs, and the 437 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: and the and the famous person laughs because it's okay too. 438 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: It's okay to be humiliated a little bit in public. Right, 439 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: if you're secure, it doesn't matter, right. But there is 440 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: one government official who would not play. He would not 441 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: get up on stage. He or she should say, they 442 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: would not get up on stage. They would not allow 443 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: themselves to to be uh pickpocketed or to have their 444 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: wristwatch taken because they could not for whatever reason, I'd 445 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: be speculating to guess what it was. They could not 446 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: tolerate having their status reduced because they're between their status 447 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: and status was the only thing that stood between them 448 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: and oblivion. Basically. And this person has become president. This person, no, 449 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: this person is a former government official. There's no point 450 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: in trying to figure out who it is understood, that's 451 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: not the story. This is a parable. It's a parable 452 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: about about someone who had done some very good things 453 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: in public life and had made a big mistake in 454 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: public life, and could not tolerate even never mind the 455 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: mention of that big mistake, but even the faintest slap 456 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: of the wrist, of having their their wrist watch literally 457 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: manipulated off their wrist in public. It would be too humiliating. 458 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: And they hid their money in their shoe so that 459 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be they wouldn't have their money their wallet pickpocketed. 460 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: And you know, when people lose their status, or perceive 461 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: or feel a threat to their status, they will do 462 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: irrational things. That's not the moral of this story. The 463 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: moral of this story is that this happened to meaning 464 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: happened to be held in a Masonic lodge. It was 465 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: not a Masonic meeting the Mason's. It's beautiful lodge and 466 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: a grand meeting room and was one of the nicer 467 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: rooms in this particular town where you could go to 468 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: have an event like this. And the Masons are out 469 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: of money and they needed to rent it to this 470 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: But nonetheless I sat there realizing, so here I am. 471 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Here's one of the most famous actors in the world. 472 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Here's this incredible business like the most famous businessman in 473 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: the world. Here's this former government official. There's George R. 474 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: Martin allowed him to there there, there's this famous person 475 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: and that famous person, and this powerful person and this 476 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: powerful person, and we're all here. We are literally all 477 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: here together, literally meeting in secret, literally in a Masonic lodge. 478 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: This is happening right now watching the art of pickpocketing, 479 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: watching the art of pickpocketing. But you go tell that 480 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: to Alex Jones. I mean, this heart's about to explode 481 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: anyone because it's full of brisket, juice or whatever. But 482 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: you know it's it's the Illuminati is real. The Illuminati 483 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: is real. Like secret meetings of world leaders are happening 484 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: in Masonic lodges. We're not discussing how, you know, how 485 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: how how to manipulate you know, how to make may 486 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: feel like governments in the war, to form of one 487 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: world government or anything like that. We're basically just entertaining 488 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: ourselves here. First, folks, the Luminati is real. And I 489 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: thought I thought you needed to know that, and the 490 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: and the conversation by closed doors is more like have 491 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: you tried that jambalaya at the sky close? Because I 492 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: think it's because they let it sit right. Well, it's 493 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: all And the conversation behind doors is all people just 494 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: trying to get jobs off of each other because they're 495 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: afraid they're they're afraid they're status is slipping to you know. Yeah, 496 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: I do have one question, just really fast. Were you 497 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: allowed I'm in the time that this occurred. Did you 498 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: have a cell phone with a camera on it? Because 499 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm imagining a room of of you know, with people 500 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: of that caliber in secret doing a thing like that 501 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: at a retreat. I'm assuming you would put cell phones 502 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: awhere you'd have to mandatorily put away. There were no 503 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: rules about I mean, people were like, you know, don't 504 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: don't tweet about this. It was low key. I mean, 505 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping it was fairly low key. Because I'm telling 506 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: the story. I'll I'm not revealing details. I'm afraid they'll 507 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: be mad at me. But I suspect they won't read 508 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: my book. Yeah, and you want to go back, Yeah, 509 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to go indeed again. And it was fascinating, 510 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: it was interesting and the book is fascinating as well. 511 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, John Hodgeman Medallion status True Stories from Secret Rooms. 512 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: It's available now wherever you it's available to pre order. 513 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: I believe for pre order right. Look, I don't know 514 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: when this is coming out, so let's just talk to 515 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: the time travelers. Time travelers. If you have arrived in 516 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: this timeline before October en, you may preorder my book 517 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: at bit dot lee slash medallion status b I T 518 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: dot l Y slash medallion status all one word, all 519 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: capital letters. If you have materialized after October, it's not 520 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: too late, go to a bookstore and buy it. Or 521 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: come see me on my book tour on on tour 522 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: in October and November, and all the details are there 523 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: John Hodgman dot com slash tour and I'll be in 524 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta in November along with my judge, John Hodgman podcast 525 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: uh in November two at the Variety. So I hope 526 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: to see you guys again. Who will do you have 527 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: a bailiff for that show? Yeah, Jesse, Jesse Thorne, my 528 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: regular bailiff is going to be there and I will 529 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: be I will be selling books there, and you know 530 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I I because I don't. I don't want to punish 531 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: people who pre order who then come to the book events, 532 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: because some of the book events you have to buy 533 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: a book to get in. Some of them, you know, 534 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: they might leave the book at home and buy another one. 535 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know. I really hope that 536 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: people will pre order the book because that's the best 537 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: way to ensure the best launch for the book personally 538 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: for me. But in order to reward people who do 539 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: preorder and then come to the book event, anyone who 540 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: comes into the signing line, whether it's a Judge Sean 541 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Hodgen show or a regular Medallen s tast book event 542 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: and they have two copies of the book that could 543 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: be a hardcover and an audio book, or a hardcover 544 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: and an e book because they've pre ordered or for 545 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: whatever reason, I have a special loyalty program reward for them. 546 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, second, yeah, you get you. You. You may 547 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: notice that on the cover of the book there's a 548 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: a picture of two famous quargies of Instagram Linus the 549 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Corky and Chompers the Quirky. They're very important in the book. 550 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: They were looking at a pamphlet here. It's wonderful. Yeah, 551 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: there's a whole book coming right now. That's well, this 552 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: part is great. So everyone who comes to a book 553 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: event and buys a copy of the book gets a 554 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: enamel pin featuring one of those orgies designed by Aaron Draplin, 555 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: designer of that of the cover. He's a famous and 556 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: great awesome dude designer, and that that is a famous 557 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: quirky pin. Everyone gets one of those just for showing 558 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: up and buying a book. If you buy two books, 559 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: because maybe you preordered one before coming to the event, 560 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: or you buy two books on site, or you bought 561 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: an audio book and now you get in the print dition, 562 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you got two books on the sideline, 563 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: you get upgraded. You get a double corky pin. Whoa 564 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: three or more books or other or other uh uh, 565 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: over the top commitments to the cause you're gonna I'll 566 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: upgrade you discretionarily to triple quartery elite status for three 567 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: quarties one pin. So, since we're on an audio podcast, 568 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: listeners need to know that when John said that we 569 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: the three of us, had I think a fairly dramatic 570 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: was a double take. Yeah, yeah, And what are they? 571 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Their pins? Their pins like you get from an airplane 572 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: pilot for going on a plane for being a kid. 573 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: They're nothing but the elite. And as an adult, if 574 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: you ask the pilots for the pins, they'll still give 575 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: it to you. Really, yeah, that's wonderful. You just have 576 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: to ask nicely and clearly. Not have that much respect 577 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: for yourself. That's what I did. Even if I'm silver door, 578 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here, even silver yet, stop showing 579 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: my eyes. Just so bad about myself. John Hodgman, that 580 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: really happened. He's really we have a door. He disappeared 581 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: down in the tunnel kind of Yeah. I think that 582 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: went well. I think that was incredible. I want to say, 583 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: I think he knows more than he's letting on. But 584 00:32:42,600 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: he was a very nice guy. That's true. M H. 585 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: Stuff They Don't Want You to Know is a production 586 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio's How Stuff Works. For more podcasts 587 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 588 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 589 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: H