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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio Yo

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton's Zaren Burnett. Damn glad to see I am

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Speaker 1: so glad to see you. You You got a second? I

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Speaker 1: got a quick question. Sure, do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 1: You do? You gonna share with the brother? Okay, there's

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Speaker 1: a company called hip Dot. Have you ever? They're a

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Speaker 1: cosmetic company. They're rewriting the beauty rules. According to their

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Speaker 1: written if you asked me the new rules are, there

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Speaker 1: are no rules. Simple, I love it clear. So they this.

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Speaker 1: I'll read the rest of their little about me blurb

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Speaker 1: above expectation, beyond imagination, Eccentric and instantly iconic. Hip Dot

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Speaker 1: Makeup represents everything that you crave beauty to be, totally

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Speaker 1: and utterly ubiquitous. That's exactly what I want from me. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, um, they say, we know you're constantly

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Speaker 1: evolving your identity and creative expression that applies to you.

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Speaker 1: Damn right, so are we. Through our collaborations, you see

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Speaker 1: where this is going, right and unique partnerships. You know

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Speaker 1: the thing is, I like, I found out about one

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Speaker 1: of their partnerships and I was like, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Then I kind of about all their partnership tricked me,

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Speaker 1: I did it, So they're collaborations. They have like a

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Speaker 1: Hello Kitty in a sesame street and what have you.

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Speaker 1: But the ones that I really like, there are three.

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Speaker 1: First is the Girl Scouts, which like these are some

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Speaker 1: hussy looking girl Scouts, no judgment Girl Scouts. But the

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Speaker 1: two that are just like, please stop. The first one

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Speaker 1: cup of Noodles makeup. Yeah, they do like these makeup palettes.

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Speaker 1: So they have like a limited edition Collector's box and

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Speaker 1: that has a bunch of the stuff. They have a

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Speaker 1: cup of Noodles lip and cheek set and and there's

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Speaker 1: also the Cup of Noodles Pigment Palette, which is just

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Speaker 1: imagine the cup of Noodles colors, oranges and pan and

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Speaker 1: then from tan to tope they're all sold out. Ps Now.

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Speaker 1: The one that I really love, and I'll tell you why,

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Speaker 1: Uma Hot Sauce. That's a winner. I'm calling it right now.

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Speaker 1: Why like what if it had the actual hot sauce

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Speaker 1: in it? It doesn't? And then your eyes that's well.

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Speaker 1: They have Collector's box that also comes with four free masks,

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Speaker 1: although I would imagine there's building it into the price,

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Speaker 1: but whatever, these are these Dia de los those sheet

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Speaker 1: masks for your face. So wait like for me to

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Speaker 1: like like do like a facial but it looks like

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Speaker 1: it has the skeleton on it, and so yeah, it

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Speaker 1: looks all, oh, that's cool. But then the collector's box

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Speaker 1: comes with like, um, you know, dear you eyeshadow glitter

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Speaker 1: e there's green glitter involved. Do you have like a

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Speaker 1: newsletter you read? Where do you get these sources? There's

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Speaker 1: this guy named Cody on Instagram. Tell him to stop.

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Speaker 1: He sent us the tip about this. Thank you Cody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's okay. Well here's the thing. It's thank you Cody.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise I wouldn't have stumbled into this hot mess. Um.

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Speaker 1: The top TiO makeup palette was originally fifty bucks on

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Speaker 1: the website. It's sold out, but you can get it

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Speaker 1: on Marcary or posh Mark for like a Hucks told me,

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Speaker 1: go get my wallet. She said, Poshmark. Let me write

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Speaker 1: this down. I'm gonna get you this. It's just gonna holidays.

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Speaker 1: What do you get it for me? Groundhogstead? There we go.

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Speaker 1: There it is so that's ridiculous that Oh man, I

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Speaker 1: will never stop. I will never stop stopping no, can't stop,

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Speaker 1: won't stop. Elizabeth Fellow records, Well she got a second,

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Speaker 1: You got a second, girl, because I got I got

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Speaker 1: one for you. I want to get even, all right,

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Speaker 1: So this one blonde bombshell bank Robbers. Where this is going?

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Speaker 1: I thought you would imagine two blonde college age women

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Speaker 1: in tight jeans matching tops. Both girls are wearing what

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Speaker 1: they call their stunner shades. Because it's two thousand seven,

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Speaker 1: listening to a lot of forty Now, it was a

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Speaker 1: wild time in two thousand seven, in case you don't

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Speaker 1: remember it. In fact, the same month that these girls

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Speaker 1: get famous, a former astronaut who we know named Lisa

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Speaker 1: Nowhack will be arrested after she takes a nine mile

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Speaker 1: drive from Houston Orlando to go deal with the love

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Speaker 1: rival at the Orlando Airport. Piece February two thousand seven

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Speaker 1: is also the end of the Bush era, So we're

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Speaker 1: right at a hinge of history where, just two weeks

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Speaker 1: before these two blonde bombshells turn pro is bank Robbers,

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Speaker 1: an ambitious young editor from Illinois named Barack Obama announces

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Speaker 1: his candidacy for president. Yes we can, Yes, the times

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Speaker 1: that were changing? Is Bob Dylan now the time had

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Speaker 1: finally come for two blonde mombshell bank robbers to shake

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Speaker 1: up the world. Elizabeth, I'd like you to meet the

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Speaker 1: Barbie Bandits. Wow, this is ridiculous crime. A podcast about

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Speaker 1: absurd and outrageous capers and cons. It's always murder free

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Speaker 1: and and I don't know why, but I have this

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Speaker 1: idea that you're gonna like this one. Elizabeth, you kind

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Speaker 1: of already like leaned into it. But before I tell

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Speaker 1: you the story of the Barbie Bandits, I also want

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Speaker 1: to tell you the story of the Copycat Crew. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Can I just say first, I think I really like

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Speaker 1: criminals who call are called bandits. There's something sort of

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Speaker 1: fanciful about its mean violent. Yeah, it implies they aren't

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Speaker 1: hurting people, they're just getting away with standard. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Barbie Bandits, they had these knockoffs. Right now, you're like,

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Speaker 1: Barbie Bandit knockoffs? Do do story exactly? Now? Up in Everett, Washington.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with Everett. It's about

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Speaker 1: the county seat of snow Homish County. Now you know this.

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Speaker 1: I have a rule which is whenever you have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to say snow homish, you have to take it

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Speaker 1: snow homish. So up there in snow Homish County in Everett, Washington,

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Speaker 1: young woman posts a picture on Facebook wall. This picture

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Speaker 1: is so great it gets robusted by the police. The

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Speaker 1: caption read Barbie bandits And this was not the originals.

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Speaker 1: This was twenty four year old Melissa Linda and her

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Speaker 1: unnamed partner in crime. They get busy one night in February,

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Speaker 1: which is six years after the o G s Okay,

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Speaker 1: now Melissa Linder and her rider die. They break into

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Speaker 1: a gold company and a strip mall. Okay, a gold company, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like where you going you sell your grandma's

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Speaker 1: gold rings like a pawn shop basically, but they're specifically

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Speaker 1: for gold and when you walk in, they just vasselin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can take your your rings off and your earrings

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Speaker 1: off with open hand, like you don't if you're getting

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Speaker 1: ready to fight. Yeah, So home a gold they break

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Speaker 1: in Linder she knew how to bust in because she

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Speaker 1: was a former employee of unnamed gold star and her

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Speaker 1: partner in crime. They're inside, They're like, this's going great.

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Speaker 1: You know what let's just continue this energy. So they

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Speaker 1: break into six more stores in the same strip mall.

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Speaker 1: They went on the tear all on one night, all

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Speaker 1: one night. Now they get away with it that night.

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Speaker 1: Two days later, not so lucky, they go back, not

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Speaker 1: and they're at robbing and they get caught mid robbery

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Speaker 1: Lender's partner in crime. She gets caught first, Lendner gets

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Speaker 1: caught second. They both go into custody. Now in custody,

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Speaker 1: they're separated. Partner in crime. She breaks immediately. She is

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Speaker 1: not a real criminal. She gives a full confession to

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Speaker 1: the police, and she also informs the detectives where to

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Speaker 1: find the stolen loot at Lender's house, like where like

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Speaker 1: underneath this blanket they go immediately go. And then now

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Speaker 1: like pretty much the book thrown at her because they

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Speaker 1: cops have plenty of evidence because remember that Facebook post.

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Speaker 1: I told you she had posted it on February night,

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Speaker 1: right before they started their most recent wave. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: in between the two, well, the first hit is on

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Speaker 1: the tenth, second one on the twelfth, so the numberfore

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Speaker 1: and her partner in crime had posted on that photo

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Speaker 1: and I quote had so much fun doing our thing.

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Speaker 1: Beware the Barbie Bandits are here and we taken over

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Speaker 1: capital and we My god, I need to just like

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Speaker 1: is This is why no one should be on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: This is why we need to abolish Facebook crime to

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Speaker 1: protect them from themselves. This is just indicative of a

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Speaker 1: deeper problem. People shouldn't I don't want to hear about

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Speaker 1: But like that's what they should have, Like an alert

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Speaker 1: Do you really want to share this? No? One? Just

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Speaker 1: I'm not on Facebook. I was on Facebook ages ago,

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Speaker 1: and like some people, you'd see things that they post

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Speaker 1: Let you know, sell on connect mccraig and I'm just like, unfriend,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know you did. And then like you

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Speaker 1: just blow it all up, destroy it. It is toxic.

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Speaker 1: Always post okay. Yeah. When someone would post like a

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Speaker 1: delete it, people of Earth. Delete Facebook, blow it up.

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Speaker 1: just adjust it? Okay. Yeah. The thing other than the

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Speaker 1: we're watching a written language die in our life. But

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Speaker 1: how do you print? You can post in cursive? It's

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Speaker 1: them in their love of graphic design exactly. Also I

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Speaker 1: I come from a small town Davis, California. So I

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Speaker 1: recognize small town poser energy when I see it. Heyts totally,

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Speaker 1: They're all like that, Yeah, we're a new Barbie bandit

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Speaker 1: so watch out Evertt Washington and the surrounding Puget Sound area.

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Speaker 1: We run these streets and avenues. Mean, it just killed

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Speaker 1: me anyway, but I wanted to get to the Barbie

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Speaker 1: band is the reason I wanted to tell you this story.

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Speaker 1: So enough about their criminal cover band. Let's get your

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Speaker 1: exactly what to write on the note. Don't write it

420
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: on your birth certificate. I've seen a story that does

421
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: not play out well. So at this point, Heather Johnston,

422
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, the tennis star, She's like, oh, I have

423
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: to say we were kind of excited, like for whatever reason. Yeah,

424
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: she's like not paying attention to where life is taking her.

425
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: But she's about to become a Barbie band She's Elizabeth.

426
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: These Barbie bandits, they're about to go pros criminals. But

427
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: they have a few missteps before they can cross that

428
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: invisible line I've told you about. So I'll just let

429
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: me turn the mic over to them. Heather Johnson said,

430
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: we take a wrong turn somewhere, ended up going to

431
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: a completely different Bank of America. So they go out

432
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: to go rob the bank. They go to the wrong

433
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: bank to wrong the one that doesn't have the inside.

434
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: Now they just go to a Bank of America. They

435
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: know it's the wrong bank. They're walking around the bank,

436
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't see how they typed into their

437
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: phone's Bank of America near me there and then so

438
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: they're looking for the inside man. They don't see him.

439
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: So then they call him, like, where are you. We're here,

440
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: we're like in the bank, and he's like, I'm I'm

441
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: at work. I'm I don't see you. They're like, no,

442
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: like we're by the piety. Plants were like, we don't know.

443
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: Ply to Plants were like, oh my god, I think

444
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: we're in the wrong bank. Where are you? And he

445
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: tells him. Then they drive over to the right bank.

446
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: The problem is that I'm I'm I will put money

447
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: on the fact that both banks were on streets called

448
00:24:53,119 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: peachtreeklem with it exactly. That's easy enough to happen, so possibly,

449
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give you that one. But so they

450
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: drive to the correct Bank of America and they get

451
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: to the branch, and now the Barbie Bandits are ready

452
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: to become criminals. Elizabeth, are you ready to see them

453
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: be born? Yes, I'd like you to close your eyes

454
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: like hasturate. It's February seven, two thousand seven. You're the

455
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: owner of a small business. You own Elizabeth's Exotic Edible Arrangements.

456
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: You make pornographic flower bouquets flowers that you can eat,

457
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: and they look kind of dirty and naughty. So naturally

458
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: two thousand seven has been very good to you because

459
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: you're hitting a moment in the culture. Elizabeth Gwyneth Paltrow

460
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: just featured you and your beast with two backs edible

461
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: arrangement on her website Coop, and the orders have been

462
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: just rolling in. So now you're at the bank to

463
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: make a deposit on all the profits you've been making

464
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: off of your flower arrangements, and you're running late. There's

465
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: a line about four people deep at the bank. There's

466
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: one woman ahead of you. She's on the phone, and

467
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: for what you've heard, she's also running late. But you're

468
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: not really irritated, unlike the woman in front of you,

469
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: who's very clearly irritated. She's actually kind of high key pissed.

470
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: But whatever. You're like, I'm not stressing, I got all

471
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: this money moving, I'm doing weller arrangements. And you're also

472
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: just enjoying your time in line because there's these two

473
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: young women ahead of you, their second in line, and

474
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: they're just kind of hilarious. You're like, oh, bubbly and

475
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: talking to each other and just like wow, man, that's

476
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: just like all that energy. I love these girls. And

477
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: I just tickled that they're just so in their own

478
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: world down because the old man in front of them

479
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: is like just waiting for the line. He gets called up,

480
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, things are going well. The team

481
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: girls still all giggles and you're just paying attention to him.

482
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: And then one of them turns and you notice she's

483
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: wearing these enormous sunglasses what the kids call stunner shades.

484
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: You recognize that, and they're also wearing matching outfits a

485
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: lot of designer labels. You've been clocking them tight jeans

486
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: is like said, matching tight great tops. To you, they

487
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: look like strippers on their day off, or possibly college kids.

488
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: You really can't tell anymore, so you're like, maybe both,

489
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: who knows it could be college kids strippers, I don't

490
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: know anymore. Turns out you're right. They are there in

491
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: the Kirkland brand jeans and the boots. So the next

492
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: available teller waves the two blonds over their Kirklands start moving,

493
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: and you watch the two teen girls bounce on over

494
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: to his window and they take off their stunner shades

495
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: and they look around, and then they slipped the bank

496
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: teller a note. He reads it he nods, and all

497
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he starts sliding stacks of money into

498
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: the through his teller window at them, and then also

499
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: loose bills from his george, just from at them. Yeah,

500
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: and the girls aren't ready for it. They don't have

501
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: like a bag or anything, so the money is just

502
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: going everywhere. The stacks of money are on the are

503
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: on the counter, but the loose money is just falling off.

504
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: The girls are grabbing at it. They're laughing to each other,

505
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: and it's just like a whole silly time. You're like, oh,

506
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: to be young and brainless. Now the woman on the

507
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: front of you, she's watching too, but she's just getting irritated.

508
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: She looks at you, she rolls her eyes, and you're

509
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: like whatever, you politely nod. You're like, no, they just

510
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: let these girls do their thing. Whatever. But the girls,

511
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: they're just grabbing out all this money that's on the floor,

512
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a suddenly stop when they look

513
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: at each other, and then they just bolt out of

514
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: the bank. They leave like thousands of dollars on the ground,

515
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: and you're like, what the hell. The one in front

516
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: of you turns around, looks at you again. It goes

517
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: I think they just robbed the bank, and you're like, oh, cool,

518
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: good for them. She sniffs and turns back around, but

519
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: she's right. These girls have just robbed the bank. The

520
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: manager announces that they've just called the cops, and she

521
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: asked that no one leave until the cops arrive. And

522
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, my whole morning's ruined. But whatever,

523
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: you just had a really good time. I just got

524
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: to see a bank robbers, got to see the birth

525
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: of the Barbie Bandits. Beautiful. Now. I wanted to try

526
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: to convey to you the feeling of being there at

527
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: their conceptions and there, yes, and they're actual coming forth

528
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: into the world. But what we have now, these Barbie Bandits, right,

529
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: they Heather Johnston and Ashley Miller, when what they have

530
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: become well, I'll just leave it to Heather Johnson to say.

531
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: She was explaining what it was like in that moment

532
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: for her. What you watched, she told ABC News, And

533
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: the bank teller started just throwing it out and it's

534
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: like coming everywhere. So I was pushing it and Ashley

535
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: was grabbing it, putting it, throwing it. We were so scared.

536
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: My heart was like, I think it's stopped at one

537
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: point and I looked over, we looked at each other,

538
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: and we just started running again. So that's how the

539
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: Barbie band is experienced. What you just witness wind between

540
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: their ears, and so they leave you in the bank.

541
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: The two teams go scampering off. They flee in a car.

542
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: Now since you can't witness, but I know you're nosing.

543
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: You want to know, I'll kill you in on what happened.

544
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: After they left the bank, they went back to their

545
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: apartment in Southwest Atlanta, and luckily they didn't have any

546
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: real furniture to get in the way, so they just

547
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: threw all the money on the ground. So they have

548
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: all the cash that they stole on the money on

549
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: the ground. All the money is there, and they just

550
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: they're not like rolling around and nothing silly, but they're

551
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: just like playing and kicking it around and having fun

552
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: kicking it around. Yeah, they we've pulled it off. And

553
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: so they count up the money and they have eleven

554
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: thousand dollars so about each except for the fact, well

555
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: you think they also have their inside man and the

556
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: mastermind ca Canny to pay off. So really they they're

557
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: looking at probably less. But let's just say they have,

558
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: that's about enough money to get you a two thousand

559
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: seven Hondai Entourage minivan used. Right, this is not a lot.

560
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking now, like you want to buy one? Now,

561
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at, right, But since they they

562
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten they're not splitting it evenly. They're getting about

563
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: twenty seven fifty apiece. Yeah, so that's enough for like

564
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: a two thousand two Honda Accord or like a two

565
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: three Nissan CenTra. That's what they did all this for

566
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: two thousand three Nissan center Yeah. Yeah. But luckily the

567
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: girls they weren't like into like, oh, I want to

568
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: buy a used car. They didn't do it for that.

569
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: They did it for loose money. So they're thrilled with

570
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: their drugs. Yeah, they're like, look at all this free money.

571
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: And they're sitting on their apartment floor just counting out

572
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: the money, and they make four piles of cash all even, right,

573
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: And so then they decide while they're counting it, they're like,

574
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: what should we go do? And how there's like I

575
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you want to do? And actually

576
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: like I want to spend it. You're like, yeah, totally,

577
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: let's go. So where do they go. They go to

578
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: the mall. It was like red Lobster. They go to

579
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: the Gucci store at the mall and other stores of

580
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: that nature, you know, and then the cap off their

581
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: shopping spree by hitting up the most expensive salon in

582
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: Atlanta and they go and get their roots done or whatever,

583
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: their highlights or whatever. Now, Lizabeth, if you got two

584
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: and a half grand stealing a bank, Yeah, and you

585
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: were saying a Barbie banded, what do you spend in

586
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: your on? Not if I'm me, if I'm a Barbie

587
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: band because that was I'm like, that's going in the bank,

588
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: and I've got utility bills, I can pay bills for days. Um,

589
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: let's see, I'm a Barbie band, I don't know, I'd

590
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: probably yeah if i'm them, If I'm those bozo's, I'd

591
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: get stupid clothes. And yeah, I suppose you want to

592
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: move that cash in places where it's not going to

593
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: be suspicious and we can spend like a lot, like

594
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars in cash, and salons are a good

595
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: place getting get like super custom nails, like airbrush type things. Sure,

596
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: those like they would have those kind of names nails, Yeah,

597
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: with like paint sunsets on it, yes, and liking this.

598
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: So that's pretty much what they did. So you're doing

599
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: well as a Barbie band So I'd go to like

600
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: a like an amusement park and just get a ton

601
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: of those um portraits done head cartoon, tons of them,

602
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: just like for people you don't even know, come here,

603
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: you want one of these? Exactly exactly that's what I do.

604
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: So that's pretty much what they did. They lived it up,

605
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: they celebrated their moment. They went, you know, Gucci, give

606
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: me all the purses or maybe just one I can

607
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: probably get on. But you know, so they lived life

608
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: up and they enjoyed their crime. And then the cops

609
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: came a calling. Yeah, after this break, I'm gonna tell

610
00:32:43,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: you how the cops caught up to the Barbie bandits. Alright,

611
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Elizabeth buying garbage with stolen money, right, Okay, So the

612
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: Barbie Bandits are out blowing their stolen loot on Gucci purses, nails,

613
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: and blonde highlights. You know, they have blond and street trucks.

614
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, the cops are handed this bank robbery and

615
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we gotta solve this. So they go

616
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: over and they try to do what they normally do.

617
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: They start to investigate this bizarre trail left behind by

618
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the Barbie bandits. So they're hearing about these two girls

619
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: who ran in and took their sunglasses off, and then

620
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: they clearly got a photo taken of them in the bank.

621
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: They didn't hide their identities. They left thousands on the floor,

622
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: they giggled and ran out. They don't these can't be professionals.

623
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: He sounds like teenage. One of the detectives looks at

624
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: looks at the surveillance things like, oh no, that's Charlie

625
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: immediately like I know where we can find still smell

626
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: the wings, So oh man, every time I say shooter Alley,

627
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: now you've ruined it. Shooter Alley from me, Elizabeth. The

628
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: cops they go and there they collect all the eyewitness

629
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: accounts from the people in the bank. You tell them

630
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: what you saw. The lady in front of you with

631
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: the sour face, she says what she saw. They talked

632
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: to all the tellers. They run all of the teller's

633
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: various like, oh, do you have any prior warrants? They

634
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: find out one of the teller's does, so they arrest him.

635
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: But then they can't really find anything based on the

636
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: eyewitness accounts. Nothing tells him anything, you know, hardcore that

637
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: they can go and investigate. So they're kind of at

638
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: an impast until they're like, oh, wait, I know we

639
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: should do. We've got all the images from the surveillance cameras.

640
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: So they're like, let's use the internet. And they put

641
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: out this image of the Barbie Bandits and like, this

642
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: is I'll just show you the image. This is what

643
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: they put out on the internet. And you see that image?

644
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Do you see that? Yeah? I can smell the pumpkin

645
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: space from here right. It looks like early two thousand era,

646
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are

647
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: having to rob a bank to like free Nicole Ritchie.

648
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's good. So they're more just let me

649
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: see it again. Okay, let's here we go. Okay, Yeah,

650
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: they've got the whole messy bun Yeah and yoga top, yeah,

651
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. It's very early odds. It's very it's very fun,

652
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: very free super That leads to a bunch of people going, oh,

653
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: that's my niece, that's my cousin, that's my grand others.

654
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: People are just calling in there, like I recognize that

655
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: because they just look like white girls. Have the basics,

656
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: if you will. So they get inundated with different possible leads,

657
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: but they get one good lead. Somebody says, I saw them.

658
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: They drove away in a Great Niecesan CenTra, so now

659
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: they know what car to look for. So this solid

660
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: lead helps them out because other than that they've got

661
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she was wearing a blonde wig.

662
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Their outfits match, there's just nothing to go on, right,

663
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: So the the Barbie bandits after they've gone viral and

664
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: they've got all this international attention. It's the car tip

665
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: that pays off. So on March second, two thousand seven,

666
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: a cops spots a great Nissan, gets behind it, throws

667
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: on its lights. Of course the Nissan bolts right, so

668
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm guessing skinnies driving. So that's how I picked here.

669
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: It's the skinny bolts in the Nissan CenTra, and they're

670
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: at by the Six Flags Steam Park up in like

671
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: the north and the North side of Atlanta. The cops

672
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: end up busting them right there in Douglas County. So

673
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Michael Chastang a k a skinny. He Ashley and had

674
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: the other ones in the car. Also in the car

675
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: with them are a bunch of marijuana and some molly,

676
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: some a bunch of ecstasy tablets. So enough that the

677
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: there's enough molly that he's up for drug distribution, like

678
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: serious charges. Actually goes it's mine because remember she's got

679
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: to like cover for her, like you know, bad boy boyfriends.

680
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: So she's like, no, those aren't skinnies, are mine. And

681
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: Heather's smart enough, She's like, I don't know. I got

682
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: some of the pots. I just asked for a ride.

683
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: I don't know these people. She's like, yeah. Though Heather

684
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: gets popped for being in the car. Not many of

685
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: the charges stick to her other than the bank robbery charges,

686
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: but the drug charges don't. She told ABC News at

687
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: the time, I just knew we were going to be

688
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. Really brainiac. So at the

689
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: police station, it only takes a few hours before Ashley

690
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: and had their both break. They then confess everything, right,

691
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: they say, oh, there was an inside man. His name

692
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: is Bennie Allen. We were connected by skinny he So

693
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: they busted all out right. Turns out Benny Allen was

694
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: the bank teller who was arrested on a prior warrant.

695
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: The cops had already had him in custody. He just

696
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: hadn't said anything, and they never investigated one of the

697
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: people hate trustody. So then the cops are like, okay, well,

698
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: they were just so focused on these white girls and

699
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: wigs they never actually stopped to, like, you know, talk

700
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: to the one guy who was like they arrested. Anyway.

701
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: Turns out, since the nineties I looked this up, about

702
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: five percent of bank robberies have been committed by women.

703
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: So the unit chief of the Violent Crimes of the FBI,

704
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: this dude, Larry Sparks. He once said about the fact

705
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: that women are now becoming bank robbers. Quote, the only

706
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: real difference we are seeing now is the role of

707
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: the female used to be they were the lookouts or

708
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: drove the getaway car. No, we're seeing them going into

709
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: the bank. This is a trend exactly, thank you, Glara Steinem.

710
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: So these team girls, they went into the bank and

711
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: they robbed it, and they car did a new trend,

712
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: the Barbie Bandits. Soon there would be knockoffs. So as

713
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: things were going, the Barbie Bandits and the two Brothers

714
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: because both Skinny and my dude, Benny Allen, they're both brothers.

715
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: They all now are going to face they're black men,

716
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: black men, so they're about to face the legal system,

717
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the justice system in the South. So how do you

718
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: think that's gonna play out, Elizabeth? I feel like we're

719
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: not going to see the equal treatment. No. Well, let's see.

720
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: So we have a cheerleader and a tennis star, college graduate,

721
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: both turned dancers turned bank robbers, all American story of

722
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: crime right now. Well, what's just backtrack for a second.

723
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: People always want to talk about families, like whenever young

724
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: black people get in trouble, it's like, well, where are

725
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: their families, what are the what's the home life? Like?

726
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: What about these two white girls at the bank robbing?

727
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: What were their families? Like, Elizabeth, why won't they pull

728
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: up their pants? That's what I want to know, pound Cakes?

729
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Yea so tendant star Heather Johnson a k H. Charlie.

730
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: Her mother was an elementary school teacher, so she taught

731
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: her good value. Damn I'm gonna try. Yeah, you know.

732
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: So the she remembered the moment when she got the

733
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: police call and said, oh, your baby girl, we got

734
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: her in custody and her mom said. Heather Johnson's mom said,

735
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: I thought, as a mother, what did I do wrong? Right? Question? Well,

736
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people they always say like, oh,

737
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: somehow my fault right. In to to quote from Heather

738
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: Johnson's mom, she said, it's devastating as a mom with

739
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: my children, and I hope that I would instill positive values.

740
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: We always did something special together, and I thought that

741
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: would instill and pretty much guarantee me wonderful adults. But

742
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: I guess there's no guarantee. No, there isn't. The people

743
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: are people, they're their own people. Watch. I was like, dude, girl,

744
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: it's not your fault, No, it's not. She raised a

745
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: daughter who was a tennis star, earned a scholarship to college,

746
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: graduated college, and then she starts working the pole. I mean,

747
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: at what point is she an adult? You know, at

748
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: what point you're like, look, I got you there. Yeah,

749
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Heather really feel bad for the mom. Oh you just wait. No,

750
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: it's not gonna get terrible. But like Heather gets out

751
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: right until she's out on bail, she's still like, you know,

752
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: legits are her parents are I'm guessing her parents took

753
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: her up with a job in an advertising firm, and

754
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: she's like trying to get her life back on track,

755
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: and she's back at it in the grind, doing her bit.

756
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: Except there's that whole stigma about the Barbie bandit. So

757
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: when someone at the advertising firms like, wait a minute,

758
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: are you that Heather Johnston, she gets fired, right, So

759
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: they're not giving her a second chance. It's hard out

760
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: there for a Barbie band In a little bit, we

761
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 1: did she do time? Not at this point, this point,

762
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: she's she's in bail. She's out on bail. Oh so

763
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: she's not. She hasn't yet, she's not been front of

764
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: employments rough at that point. Yeah. So Ashley Miller's mother,

765
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: her name was Joy. We talked to about her before

766
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: she went on Good Morning America. Oh, because that's the

767
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: wise thing to do, is the best place to have

768
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: a good trial is okay, So first you delete Facebook. Second,

769
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: never go If you have something in your life like this,

770
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: especially something is traumatic, don't go on You don't want

771
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: to go on National TV and crime, do not go

772
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: on TV. You're no fun. I am none. So this

773
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: former the mother of a former cheerleader goes on National TV,

774
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: cries xpates herself as like, oh, I'm a good mother.

775
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: I don't know where I went wrong. I didn't see

776
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: bank robber is a career option, right, And Joy Miller's

777
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: like tell him us in Good Morning America is like,

778
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: that's so sad, and she's like, I'm just gonna quote

779
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: I was very surprised. That's totally out of Ashley's character.

780
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, girl, come on now she goes on

781
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Good Morning America, like I can see the kind of

782
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: good choices she's she's modeling for her. Well, I mean

783
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: the mother points out, like, look, she was a good girl,

784
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: gone bad. She started running with a fast crowd. You know,

785
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden she's at shoot her alley right now.

786
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: Joy Miller told g M A and I quote Heather

787
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: and actually are not bandits. They are little girls that

788
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: made a bad choice. No, they are not little girls

789
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: that bothers me too. I mean I know that, like

790
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: we infantilize a lot of times if we and and

791
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: you only see certain people getting infantilized, you know that

792
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: to get them out of kind of any any nastiness

793
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: they get involved in. Yeah, yeah, probably exco pat them

794
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: of any responsibility. You're like, oh, Yeah, you're fine, You're

795
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: an innocent well, okay. And Ashley Miller's yearbook she had,

796
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, people would do yearbook quotes. She had, she

797
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: had a choice quote for hers and it was a

798
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: good friend would bail you out of jail. A best

799
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: friend would be sitting right next to you saying, man,

800
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: we messed up. Okay. And they didn't have a clue

801
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: then the so what I'm saying. Signs were there, Signs

802
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: like live your names Ashley voted most likely to rob

803
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: a bank Miller just live your dreams. Now. In case

804
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: you wanted to know what that picture looks like, here's

805
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: her yearbook photo. Probably right, you like the blue top.

806
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: It's like special, so I thought you'd like that. We'll

807
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: put we'll post this. Everybody can share the fund now.

808
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: The Barbie Bandits, they get charged with bank robbery initially,

809
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: but because remember the inside man who told him to

810
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: write the note a certain way, that protected them because

811
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: it meant, oh, this is actually just theft. It's an

812
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: inside job. It's not strangers walking and demanding money. It's

813
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: part of a whole fraud thing. So they only get

814
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: popped on theft, which is much better. Now they don't

815
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: could have faced real time in prison. So Heather Johnson

816
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: and Ashley Miller, they they're both about nineteen once nine time,

817
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: Ashley made the mistake of insisting that Skinny's drugs were hers.

818
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: So she's up on the drug charges. So she's eyeballing

819
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: ten years on the ecstasy charges. That's federal bank, right.

820
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: But when she's all said and done and she gets convicted,

821
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: she's sentenced to ten years, but she only has to

822
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: do too and the remainder is done on probation. Heather

823
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Johnston only does probation right because she didn't have any

824
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: drug charges. She got drug use but not drug distribution,

825
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: so she's good. So they get out on the theft

826
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: only to probation. So now I quote once again from

827
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: my girl Heather, she said, quote some of the stuff

828
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: we did was just pretty ignorant. So that she says

829
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: this and takes that approach. So she's willing to flip

830
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: on everybody. So the judges they give her like, Okay,

831
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: we'll give you some leniency. Now. The inside man, Benny Allen,

832
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: he's twenty two, also young man, got off the whole

833
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: future in front of him. He's convicted on calling him

834
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Speaker 1: a kid though now full grown man, and so he's

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Speaker 1: convicted on theft charges. He catches ten years, he has

836
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: to do five of the years in prison before he's

837
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Speaker 1: allowed probation. Then there's my dude, Michael chastang Ak Skinny.

838
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: He's the oldest. He's twenty eight years old. He's given

839
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Speaker 1: ten years for planning the robbery and fifteen years for

840
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the drug distribution, and he has to do all fifteen

841
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: years of the distribution before he can get to the robbery.

842
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: So he has to do twenty five years. I would

843
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: he probably had priors to that, might well, I assume

844
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: he may have. But they're basically they busted him on

845
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: the on the drug possession in the car and then

846
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: said robbery charges second, so they use that as a

847
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: as a previous bust, even though they are chronologically out

848
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: of order, right, So then double a c P. They

849
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: read this, they step forward and they point out the obvious. Hey,

850
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: these white girls got off easy, while the two black

851
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: men they they're they're getting the verbial book thrown out

852
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and what's up. The head of the n double a

853
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: CP for the State of Georgia, man named Edward de

854
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: bos He, tells the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the big paper

855
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, that he intended to ask the state attorney

856
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: general to look into this case and the sentencing disparities.

857
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: That's how serious it was for him. So Debos said, quote,

858
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: this is a case that clearly reflects unequal justice. These

859
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: two women referred to as the Barbie Bandits should have

860
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: received sentences equal to the African Americans. Now Rosa Parks.

861
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: They are not, I will admit, but they did point

862
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: out unequal treatment under the law. So Barbie Bandits give

863
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: it up for the civil rights movement. But I would

864
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: go the opposite way from Dubos and say that instead

865
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: of like, oh, they should be punished as hard, the

866
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: brothers should have gotten lenient smart I want everyone to

867
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: get the leniency. But anyway, so Benny Allen, former bank teller,

868
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: he has to do his full sentence. Skinny, I told

869
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: you he caught hell then double a CP. Essentially, they

870
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: wanted and they didn't say this, but they wanted to

871
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: ask the question which I'm gonna say, which is in

872
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, we're black men still being punished for

873
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: corrupting white women. Is that what essentially what we're doing?

874
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes. So we get like

875
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: this dollar store Malcolm X origin story where it's like, oh, too,

876
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: white women go down. They go off to like, oh,

877
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: reform school, while the black guys have to go to prison.

878
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think Skinny is gonna be coming out,

879
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, talking about blue eye devils and the Ja Mohammed. True,

880
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: he could come out with a taste for being pies.

881
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. And also I feel bad dragging Malcolm

882
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: X into all of this. Really apologized to the family anyway.

883
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: But this brings back to my central question, which is

884
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: the one that the girl's mother has asked, which is like,

885
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: did I do a good job? Is this my fault?

886
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: Who's to blame? And I just want to say, you know, charitably,

887
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: unlike the law, the mothers didn't seem to blame the

888
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: black men. They blame a fast They blamed all this

889
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: and fast life seems to be a euphemism for drugs,

890
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: drugs and being a stripper. Don't you think that that's

891
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: like when I see these these women, their lives going

892
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: off the rails, you know, and I wonder, you know,

893
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: what kind of influenced drugs had on that that if

894
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: they're willing to do all these things and they're not

895
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: thinking like they're they're just kind of dumb. And I

896
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: don't think it made it any better. I don't know

897
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: what drugs are using, but like, yeah, I mean they're

898
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: smoking pot, They're they're doing coke, coker, and that's crystal.

899
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: You see, like the problem that we have not just

900
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: in this country, i'd say globally, with more so in

901
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 1: this country with drugs and the way it like there's

902
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: a ripple effect to like the way that when you

903
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: say what destroys lives, do you think of like one

904
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: person dying because it's just like so damaging the potentials,

905
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the family Like one

906
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: of the how do a little sister? And she mentioned

907
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: it in court, She's like, I don't want my little

908
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: sister to turn out like me. So you see that this,

909
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, it is an endemic issue. We use euphemisms

910
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: like the fast life just sick what it is. These

911
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: girls weren't brainwashed, they weren't corrupted, and like unless they

912
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: were being exploited, I don't know about them being exploited,

913
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: but what I can tell, Skinny wasn't exploiting them per se.

914
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: He wasn't there pimp, and most times pimps don't usually

915
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: move into bank robbery. Pimping pays well enough, you don't

916
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: need to go like, hey, we're gonna go into bankrupting.

917
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. I think that Skinny

918
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: was manipulating. He's a bad boyfriend, he was an f boy,

919
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: He's all that stuff. He's an ex con low life

920
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: who has very low expectations for his own future, and

921
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: then he extends those two other people's future. He's not

922
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: thinking about where they going to be in ten years

923
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: based on what I'm doing. He's a fun guy, a

924
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: funny guy. Maybe I don't know, maybe he's a good

925
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: dancer or maybe he's a good bowler. I have no

926
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: idea why they liked it, but clearly he was charming,

927
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: and for whatever reasons, Ashley chose to carry the weight

928
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: of the drugs for him. She I don't know if

929
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: she loved him. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. I

930
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: don't know, but she made a choice. And that's my

931
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: whole point is that as an adult, she acted, and

932
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: that's what her parents wanted to raise. It wasn't an

933
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: adult who could act for their own now. She made

934
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: a bad choice in a series of bad choices. Let's

935
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: be real about it. Same for Heather. You know, but

936
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: they didn't go bad. I don't like the idea of

937
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: going bad. They just chose by good choices again without

938
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: having to go good. Yeah, you don't ever want to

939
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: say that a person is a bad person to turn

940
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: them into a thing right now, Like, so, okay, they

941
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: spent time in a strip club, but it's not like

942
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: they went into the strip club and that was a

943
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: cocoon and then they came out like criminal butterflies. Like

944
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: people act like, Oh, I mean, Ashley's yearbook kind of

945
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: gives me the idea that it was in her that girl.

946
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: Actually it just happened, just took certain conditions for her

947
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: to like reach out and connect with what was in

948
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: her and all of a sudden boom, her realities now

949
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: this well, and you see that there's she sort of

950
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: wants thrills, right like she she has the whole thing

951
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: about you know, your best friend of baby, so there's

952
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: like a thrill to it at an adult, she likes

953
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: the sensation of life. There's a thrill. So she wasn't

954
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: she didn't have an opportunity need to find thrills in

955
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: other ways that would be more. And that's the kind

956
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 1: of thing you like, you're a parent, you know, like, yeah,

957
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: if you got a thrill secret, find a good outlet

958
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: and teach them to manage themselves until the same would

959
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: apply for skinny Skinny saying, every single one of them

960
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: is somebody who's essentially running the edge, running. And I

961
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: think that when we have like people like that, you know,

962
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: especially we're talking about kids growing up like that, rather

963
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: than trying to squash that that impulse to be a

964
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: thrill seeker, to like kind of be on the edge,

965
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: figure out a good outlet for that, because you can't

966
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: squash it, you can't change. I was lucky that people

967
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: did that with me. They taught me like, look, you

968
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: can't change you are, but you need to get better edge.

969
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: And just to give these girls some advice, Look, okay,

970
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: you made a bad choice, but next time, just steal

971
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: the person's shoes, I mean, just cut out the middleman

972
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: of bank robbery. Like come on now, okay, I shouldn't

973
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: say that, but this whole story to me, you said

974
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: it really well, this story just sounds like drugs talking.

975
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like and you can't listen to drugs.

976
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: And I don't mean pot, I mean street drugs. And

977
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, we only have both. Know we've had friends,

978
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: and I've been that friend and somebody when they're talking,

979
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: you you hear your friend's voice, but it's drugs talking.

980
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: And you cannot listen to drugs talk. And so parents

981
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: teach your children to know when drugs are talking to

982
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: them and also be able to hear drugs talking out

983
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: of your children's mouths. Exactly know this stuff. And so

984
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: that way, if you if you were willing to listen

985
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: to drugs, you you might well. If you don't listen

986
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: to drugs, you don't recognize what it is. You will

987
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: wind up sleeping on the floor of your apartment with

988
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: no furniture, waiting to pay off a man named Skinny

989
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: after you robbed a bank in suburban Atlanta. And somehow,

990
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: in that moment, you'll think I'm winning a life. I'm

991
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: totally free. That's drugs talking right there. And mothers, teach

992
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: your kids, this is what the sound of drugs is,

993
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: exactly all right, that's it. That's all I got was

994
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: an excellent same what's our ridiculous takeaway? You got? We've

995
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: covered it on pretty much. Yeah, and then also delete Facebook. Okay,

996
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: well thanks for asking for my watch. A Facebook ad

997
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: is going to come on after I say this, of course.

998
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,759
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