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This hour it is your ring doorbell camera. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: That's right, See what the angle is there? Security, look 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: at racism. 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Security cameras make you racist, like like viewing birds make 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: you racist? 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: All right? 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: We can and of course to follow events in the 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: Mid East Israel against Thomas the Gaza strip. Our guest 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: coming on now is Council General of Israel to the 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Pacific Southwest. In fact, he was present at a Los 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: Angeles City Council member news conference yesterday to show support 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: for Israel in the wake of these attacks by Hamas. 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: His name is Israel Bakar. Let's bring him on the 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: show to talk about this whole story. 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Israel. Welcome to the John and Ken Show. 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: John Ken, good up there, knowing, Yeah, thank you. 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: For taking time, because I'm sure you're extraordinarily busy right now. 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: There's going to be an Israeli response that's already started, 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: but it's really going to get intense in the next 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: few days. You're well aware there are some people that 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: may not be on your side or don't really understand 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: the issue, don't really understand what Hamas is about. Talk 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: about why what Israel is going to be doing in 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the near future is so necessary. 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: So the Israel, we're trying to protect our home, villages 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: and nebor and neverword. Just imagine that somebody is coming 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: to your home or to their neighborhood and started to 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: shoot people in the morning in their sundays. It's kind 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: of crazy. So then, first of all, to protect the 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: city and our citizen before anything else. So that's phase one. 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: Phase number two. We're going out to dismantle the Hama's 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: military operations and military capabilities in order not to have 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 4: anymore a terrorist organization sitting one mile from our communities 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: and shooting rockets all around the here, and with the 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: last weekend, also infiltrating into communities and mothering babies mummies, 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: brutally raped women and then putting them on fire, horrors 52 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: that haven't seen since the nineteen forty five, since the 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: Naties regime. So that's what I trying to do it now. 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: It's basically it's a protective measures. We're moving into a war, 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: but it's a war that we didn't want to. It's 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: a word that we have to. We have to do it, 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: and we have to win. And this time I think 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: the world and even the Israelis understand there's nothing to 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: do with Hamas. There's nobody to talk to. This is 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: not about territory. This is about terrorism. That's what it's 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: all about. So the government now is moving forward to 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: topple the Hamas regime. 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: What do you see possibly in the future concerning Gaza 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: in the West Bank in terms of all this and 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Hamas's presence and if it can be wiped out, you 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: think there's a way of going forward on this. 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: Let me just expend something on the basic the one 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: that was the most, the one that was the most 69 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: that the Hamas regime is going to be toppled and 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: neutralized militarily. It's the Palestinian Authority. It's a two different 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: distinct location if you know the map. So the Palestinian 72 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: Authority originally control Gadas Strip. They had an election, Hamas 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: took over a democratic election the territory of Gaza and 74 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: then brutalize, murdered and kill the Palestinian authority. That's what 75 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: I did. That was in two thousand and seven. And 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: since they they rule in a very extreme autocratic way 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: their own people, they are basically also hostages to this regime. 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: That's what That's what's going on there. So we're not 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: thinking right now what's going to happen the day after, 80 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: because that's basically what was That was our mistake all 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: the time to think what's going to be the day 82 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: after Hamas is leaving the Gaza schip. We understand now 83 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: that that's not the question. The question is are you 84 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: neutralized a terrorist organization that cannot be worse than this situation. 85 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: So that's what you're doing right now. What's gonna be 86 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: after that. Let's say there is the Egyptian on the 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: other side of the border, they are win, there's the 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: Plastinian authority. We need to think with the international community 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 4: or we move forward on it. 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: That's not talked about very much this week, that there 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: was the other side of the border and Egypt. Egypt 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: kept the Palestinians from coming into their country as well. 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: Is that right? 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: I'll tell you more than that. Let's go to do 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 4: history in a second, very briefly story when we need 96 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: the peace process with Egypt. Back then, Unaware said that 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: the president of Egypt was very shrewd and smart guy. 98 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: He basically told us in the negotiation, I don't want Gaza. 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: You tend to deal with Gaza. Don't want to deal 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: with them, and he basically pushed the Gaza problem into Israel. 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: Israel made a mistake to send the peace agreement with Egypt. 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: While we also take the responsibility for the Gaza strip. 103 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: That was the mistake on our party. We need to 104 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: say it and be truthful about it. The Egypt doesn't 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: want to deal with the Gaza strip. And basically we're 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: the one that stuck with it. That's the reality. So 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: it's true that we have good relationship with Egypt right 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: now to we sign the peace process, but it is 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 4: a problem for them, it is a problem for us 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: mostly where the one that paid the price. And hopefully 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: after this war going to end, we're going to come 112 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 4: to a better terms with the international community, with Egypt, 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: with a Pastinian authority to see what we're doing with that. 114 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: As Council General of Israel to the Pacific Southwest, what 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: is your role, especially I mean obviously here in the 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: United States and getting the American people to understand the 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: problem more specifically. 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: Well, let's remember that the Jewish community here in Los Angeles, 119 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: it's a vast Jewish community. There's more than half million 120 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: Jewish people who resides there American citizen, and we have 121 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 4: another three hundred thousand Israelis or two hundred and fifty 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: thousand Israelis that live here in California. My responsibility is 123 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: first and foremost right now with these days, I'm not 124 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: talking about the regular days, but this days, right now, 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: it's to mobilize supporter's outpouring of love with Israelis and 126 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: America and I like to donate to fly to least 127 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: to the Israeli ideas. We have a lot of logistics 128 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: going on right now with America as with Israeli. Is 129 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: there's a levels. So you said human stories. You know, 130 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 4: I get a phone call from a woman from from 131 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: the Jewish community yesterday just she lost somebody from her 132 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: family in a phone call. Today somebody needs to go 133 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: for a funeral, to fly to is It urgently for 134 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: a funeral. So there's a lot of things going on 135 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: on the human human side of having a war unfortunately. 136 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: So that's we're dealing right now, beyond the regular job 137 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: that we need to maintain the relationship with American officials 138 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: and to make sure these things are moving in the 139 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 4: right direction. 140 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: Do you worry that Roan will get more involved in this, 141 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: especially after Israel is done dismantling hamas. 142 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: Is then work hammers right now? It didn't. It didn't happen, 143 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: as we're working on it right now. But according to 144 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: your question, let me let me put one one sentence 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: which are important to say. Buy in words yesterday, we're amazing, 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: were great, we're supportive, and we're encouraging for the Israeli public. 147 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: He said equivocree that he's deterring Aaron from getting aimed 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: to the strife and this war and may help us 149 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: to retearing Iran to stay on the sideline and have 150 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: to participate in this war. Hopefully it's going to work. 151 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: So far, it's working. The Americans doing a great job 152 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: on it, and we're also very thankful for it. 153 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you for your time today. We 154 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: appreciate you taking a moment to talk to us. 155 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, John and and can and we'll give it 156 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: a good fight. 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, all y, we'll talk with you again. Thank you 158 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: very much for coming on. 159 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: Bye bye bye byes. 160 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: Israel Bakar he's the Council General of Israel to the 161 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: Pacific Southwest and he was president of the news conference 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: yesterday by Los Angeles council members to show solidarity with 163 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: Israel in the wake of the attacks by Habas. When 164 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: we come back, you'll have a chance to win some money. 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 166 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: The cash contest continues on KFI Johnny KENKFI AM six forty. 167 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere i heeartradio app. 168 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 169 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 170 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: One of the things of course that we're watching closely 171 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: with Israel against Hamas is the hostages and some of 172 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: them are apparently Americans, and how they're gonna deal with 173 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: that while knocking Hamas out is also a very tricky, 174 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: tricky question. And again there are amassing ground forces for 175 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: a possible invasion and to cause a strip to try 176 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: to root out Hamas As they continue to shell that 177 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: part of the country. But we'll wait and see. This 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: story is a g and a listener sent this to us, 179 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: so otherwise we would not have been aware of it. 180 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: And I guess the category is so that's how they 181 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: do it. 182 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: There is an organization in the state of Utah called 183 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: the inter Mountain Power Agency. It's got government status but 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: also it sells bonds. It's like, you know, like any 185 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: other utility anyway. Now, they have a big power plant 186 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: which provides electricity. The power plant is well, it's it 187 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: gets its production from coal. Where are we going with this, Well, 188 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: guess who runs the plant? LEDWP fantastic. The Los Angeles 189 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: Department of Water and Power is the beneficiary of this 190 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: eighteen hundred megawatt power plant that is fueled by coal. 191 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: I repeat, fueled by coal. Look at that. 192 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: That's why I called it. 193 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: So that's how they get away with, Eh, we have renewables, 194 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: but look at this, look at these wires. We're not 195 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: Well they're gonna say, we're not producing any California missions 196 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: from coal, maybe happening in Utah, but don't look over there. 197 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: This is nuts. 198 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Just two percent of the power generated at the plant 199 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: goes to Utah. 200 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is raising a lot of questions from 201 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: Utah legislators. They just got a whole audit done and 202 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: it's John pointed out that statistic. That's what they found out. 203 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: They have an annual budget of five hundred and twenty 204 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: million dollars, but seventy nine percent of his controlled by 205 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: the California purchasers. 206 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Understand, they're constantly how. 207 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: Many states are we doing this in? Do you think. 208 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: If there's one here, there's got to be others. This 209 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: has probably been their story. They're dirty little secret, they're 210 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: dirty energy little secret is what they The scam is 211 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: is they preach to us and brag about their renewable energies, 212 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: and they charge us a lot for renewable energy. Right, 213 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: you've seen the price your electricity evil, Well, you know 214 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: solar and wind to generate that and develop that. That's 215 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: very expensive, but we have to do it for the 216 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: good of the planet. Meantime, they're burning coal like the Chinese. 217 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: Though according to the audit, the plant has burned through 218 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty million tons of coal in this lifetime. 219 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: See all right, and that's on ladwp's back. Now what's 220 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: going on is apparently LEDWP says, well, you're going to 221 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: have to change the natural gas. And that's another dispute 222 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: that they're having there with this power organization. 223 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: They didn't know or they're saying that because they got caught, 224 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: well that they must have known that. It says here 225 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: seventy nine percent of the board is controlled by California purchasers. 226 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah till let me revise. 227 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Ay. 228 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: It's annual budget of five hundred and twenty million is 229 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: within the purview of a board of which seventy nine 230 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: percent is controlled by California purchasers. 231 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: The audit also found that this is upsetting some Utah legislators. 232 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: Twenty six percent of the plant's coal consumption actually comes 233 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: from other places. 234 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: They're like, you're not even using Utah coal, So that 235 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: would help the economy for the Utah cola cons So. 236 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: They're shipping coal from other states to Utah. Then they're 237 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: burning they're burning it. 238 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 3: The electricity to LEDWP. 239 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Which is running around telling us how green they are. 240 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: Ye, I wonder what percentage of LA Probably not a 241 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: big percentage because coming from this plant. Be interesting to 242 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: find out of LEDWP power. And again the question is 243 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: are they doing this in other states too? Is this 244 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: how they bury their footprints? The state senator maybe she 245 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: have them on the air, named Dave Hinkins from Orangeville, Utah, 246 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: who says to an irony, they're mandating the switch from 247 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: coal to natural gas. California is and they complained about 248 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: the carbon footprint of fossil fuels, but they have little 249 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: regard of the emissions happening here in Utah. 250 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: That's a good point. And what about this is about 251 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: the planet? 252 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: It's that's the thing. All these stupid laws and restrictions 253 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: here in California has just pushed the burning of fossil 254 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: fuels to somewhere else, some other states, some other country. 255 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: It all goes into the same atmosphere. But what I'm 256 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: telling you is they don't particularly care. They don't care 257 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: about the atmosphere. They don't care about this climate change stuff. 258 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: That's the front. That's the story. Now, who profited from 259 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: having this Utah coal plant? 260 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 4: All right? 261 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: Who made the money in this story? Because this green 262 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: stuff is a cover. It's providing lots of tax money 263 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: to develop all kinds of alternative energies like solar power 264 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: and electric battery. 265 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: In the meantime, you got to keep the lights on, 266 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: that's right. 267 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: And so yeah, who's making money from all these government subsidies? 268 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: Who is who's done all these startups? You know, every 269 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: scoundrel in the world now has some kind of green 270 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: energy startup because the government is dumping billions of dollars 271 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: out there. What happened when they dumped billions of dollars 272 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: into California for the unemployment fund, right, tens of billions 273 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: of dollars were fraudsters showed up and stole tens of 274 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. Well, fraudsters are showing up and stealing 275 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars for they're fake solar energy 276 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: and green energy companies. And we don't make enough. We've 277 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: said this a thousand times and it's the truth. They 278 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: do not make enough wind and solar power to meet 279 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: our needs. They never will. So that's why the they're 280 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: keeping the nuclear plant going. They're restarting natural gas plants 281 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: going there. They've had coal burning forever in Utah. 282 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: And an odd part of this story, in the early 283 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: two thousands, a group of electric utilities said, well, we 284 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: need additional sources of energy for some of our Utah members. 285 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: So they were gonna try to start a third generating unit, 286 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: but apparently LEDWP reportedly blocked the project from moving forward. 287 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: I wonder why they did that. They didn't want I 288 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: don't know they Why would they not want additional energy 289 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: sources in Utah? Really strange? 290 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what's it? 291 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Seems like they had a stranglehold on this particular power agency. 292 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: Jeez. 293 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we know the DWP is as corrupt to 294 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: the bone. I mean that's been proven over and over 295 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: over the years. 296 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: And that union. 297 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and remember how many of their executives are 298 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: in prison right now? 299 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they got involved in that whole scandal, right yeah? 300 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: Right? 301 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: When were they these made? Were people involved in these 302 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: deals now in prison for other shady situations? 303 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: All right, when we returned, we've promised you each hour 304 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: today we'll do an Elsagundo Times special. They ran a 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: couple of stories just in the last couple of days 306 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: on Oh Shock Race. This one deals with your ring 307 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: doorbell camera, and we're not kidding you there's an angle 308 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: of racism to it. 309 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: Coming up next. 310 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken CAFI AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio apps. 311 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 312 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: AM sixty. 313 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: Well on the radio from one until four. We'll pay attention. 314 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: After four o'clock you can go to the iHeart app 315 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: for the John and Ken on demand podcast, same as 316 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: the radio show. So there's no excuse not to ingest 317 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: all three hours every day. Jest, I'm jest. 318 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: Oh breaking news alert from the Elsigundo Times. The Inyo 319 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: rock daisy, a rare California flower, has been listed now 320 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: as a state threatened species, so it's got new protections. 321 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: The Ino rock daisy, the rock daisy. It grows from 322 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: the crevices of cliff walls. A lot of it is 323 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: out there in Death Valley National Park is where a 324 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: lot of the flower grows. 325 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: There are complaints because of mining operations they. 326 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: Were killing the daisy, So okay, it's now gotten special protection. 327 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: You know what I think they I don't know why 328 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: they don't just call for all Californians to commit mass 329 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: suicide and religiously. You know, apparently we're causing so much pollution, 330 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: so much environmental degradation. You know, we're just we're just 331 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: a terrible species on the species. 332 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: Most of you are. 333 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: I know, I can't even enjoy watching birds anymore. 334 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: Birds was the first report we did last hour, and 335 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: also going to do time special about how well there's 336 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: more diversity of birds. 337 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: In the better neighborhood. Sorry, that's racist. This one is 338 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: about you. 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: You're well, you're ringbell camera cameras, cops in paranoia, how 340 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: Amazon's surveillance network alters LA neighborhoods. And it comes complete 341 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: with an illustration of the nosy neighbor lifting up the 342 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: blinds to stare out their nose, sticking out their fingers, 343 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: trying to see what's going. 344 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: On in the streets. 345 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: Mock people who don't want to have their stuff stolen. 346 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: Classic El Segundo times garbage, classic, Right, we're the bad 347 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: people because we don't want our stuff taken. 348 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 349 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: They start off with this report from Sun Valley, one 350 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles's northernmost corners, a small enclave whose residents. 351 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Are a little whider and a little wealthy that rest 352 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: of Los Angeles. 353 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: They should kill themselves. 354 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: And these are the people that are apparently using the cameras, 355 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I guess there's something racist about 356 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: that because a lot of them then go on John's favorite, 357 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: the next Door app and they start reporting suspicious behavior. 358 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: And should that suspicious behavior ever to include a description 359 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: of some one's ethnicity? 360 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 361 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding the bells go off? 362 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: You know something racist that is? That is so stupid 363 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: because when people get a photo of a suspect on 364 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: their on their ring video and then they post a screenshot, 365 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: sometimes they post the whole video, right, guess what they 366 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: want to tell everyone? What the suspect looks like? First 367 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: of all, case you see him, right, you could see 368 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: it on the screen, right, you can see the photo 369 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: of the video on the screen. And that's the first 370 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: question everybody asked, do you have a description? Part of 371 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: the description is what what race they are, what ethnicity 372 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: they seem to be. That's a basic description. When you 373 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: have a bad guy prowling around to break in. Now, 374 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: at at best he's just going to steal stuff. At worst, 375 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: you could have a rape or murder, or your child 376 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: could be kidnapped. I can't imagine that describing a guy 377 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: that's actually on the video right, he's right there, Clayton 378 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: has got his hand in the through the window of 379 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: your car. And you're not supposed to publish that. But 380 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: if the police constantly say, it's like, well, you know, 381 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: have a security system, say something, say something, let us 382 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: know what. Well, okay, we're letting you know. 383 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: This is a story by Lamb who thhu Evo. I 384 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: don't know. 385 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: I've never heard of him as a writer, but apparently 386 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: input from some New York City organization too. And I 387 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: like the way he puts in there. Some research it's vague, 388 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: although there is a link. They always shown that surveillance 389 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: is a poor deterrent of property crimes. 390 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that's nonsense. Some research. I'm sick. 391 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: You know. 392 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: The Alleen Times puts in a fake researched. 393 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Reads paranoia, perpetuates prejudice, and puts people in the heightened 394 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: risk of police are vigilante violence. 395 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: No on all those things, because it makes people feel 396 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: more secure, not paranoid. You feel better when you have 397 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a ring camera. You feel better when you know that 398 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: if there's a guy lurking around, you can get video, 399 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: you can send it to your neighbors and everybody will 400 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: be on alert together. That is that is total horse crap. 401 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: They always have these vaguely worded prayers to research, don't 402 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: believe any any reference to research, and an el segundo 403 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: time story right. 404 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: They underlined some which means well, they found like one 405 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: study some that makes it conclusive. 406 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: That's that's the journalistic weasel word. That is the all 407 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: purpose weasel word to get their point of view and 408 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: their opinion into a story and to make it a 409 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: big deal on their page that we have some say, 410 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: some critics, some research. 411 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: That's a total of. 412 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Course, they dragged the police into this. Our analysis of 413 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: a random sample of neighbors posts found that more than 414 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: thirty percent of the post the LAPD received didn't describe 415 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: criminal activity, even if you have users classify them as crime. 416 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: There were things like suspicious behavior someone checking cars. 417 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, checking cars is what they do. I'll tell you 418 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: what they do. I know what they do do. They 419 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: have gone down our block and they flip open car doors. 420 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: You know, they pull the handle flip. Okay, I've seen 421 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: them do that. 422 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and three times somebody in our family, including me, 423 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: has had their cars broken into. Now they've stolen a 424 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: couple of minor things. What they do is they go 425 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: into your compartments and they just pull it all out 426 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: and throw it around. They're looking to see if you've 427 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: got some money hidden in there. Everything valuable quickly grab right, 428 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: because you know people put twenty dollars bills in their 429 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: glove compartment for emergencies. That's what they're what they're looking for. 430 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: And that's happened to me several times. So yes, what 431 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: if I see somebody that I know isn't supposed to 432 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: be living in the neighborhood and he's flipping car door handles, 433 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: it is suspicious. It is the last minute before a 434 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: crime is committed. The first door that opens on a car, 435 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: Now you've got the crime because they're breaking in and 436 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: they're stealing stuff. 437 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: What A what A? 438 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: This is propaganda? They know better. There's this lamb FOI 439 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: vou he or she knows better. In fact, I'm sure 440 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: if they see a strange guy flicking open their car, 441 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: they say to themselves, oh, it looks like he's gonna 442 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: steal something out of my car. You see how they 443 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: try to rewire your natural instinct not to believe what 444 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: you see. You're not really looking at a crime. Yes, 445 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: I am looking at a crime. 446 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean the real upstart of this article is, well, 447 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people with ring doorbell cameras live in 448 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: wide or wealthier neighborhoods. They have the least crime. This 449 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: is just paranoia. It's just their attempt to go after 450 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: people of color. They see them out of place in 451 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: the neighborhood they have. They really think that's what's going on. 452 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: They have the least amount. No, everybody I know would 453 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: like to be left alone. They just want to sit 454 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: on the sofa and watch television. They don't want to 455 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: be part of crime stoppers. 456 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: They don't want to be part of a neighborhood watch 457 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: all that is a pain in the ass. Okay. They 458 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: want to be comfortable and relaxed, leave their screen door 459 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: is open to get a breeze. They don't want to 460 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: have to worry about being busted into from their back 461 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: door by guys wanting to steal their electronics and jewelry. 462 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: So this, this writer, this lambthoid voe is just full 463 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: of steaming, smelly horseman door. All right, that's not what 464 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: people want to do. And by the way, if there's 465 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: less crime in those neighborhoods, it's because people are vigilant. 466 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: It's because on my block, every single lawn front lawn 467 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: has a sign drilled into the ground that says with 468 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: this security company, that security company, twenty four hour surveillance, 469 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: neighborhood crime watch. Okay, every one of them do, and 470 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: every one of them in our neighborhood is signed up 471 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: with a local security agency and their cars go round 472 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: and round all the time because the police don't come 473 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: anywhere near us. I know, I know the West Side 474 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have the same crime rate as South Central. That's 475 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: not the point. Have to pay extra money to supplement 476 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: their security. And isn't that what politicians have told business owners, Well, 477 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: you have to put in your own security. Okay, Well, 478 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: people put in their own security. We have security cards 479 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: going by, we we have ring cameras, we have signs 480 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: out there, and we just generally keep track of what's 481 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: going on. If you see a guy and he looks suspicious, 482 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: you call the security agency. You know what, don't go 483 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: flicking car doors. 484 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: They had help with this story. New York City News 485 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: Service writers one, two, three, four, five more contributed to 486 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: this report, a series made possible through support from the 487 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: Pulitzer Center's AI Accountability Network. 488 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: I guess because this is tech. 489 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: The right door bell, Well, this is this is this 490 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: is AI, A generated accountability network yesterday making sure that 491 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: in that world where maybe we're. 492 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: Going to keep them accountable. 493 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: You know why they're trying to intimidate readers into thinking, well, 494 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: we have science, we have research, we have artificial intelligence. 495 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: F and U Okay, I have a car, I have 496 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: a house. I don't want to broke it into and 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: you are not going to intimidate me with all your 498 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: fake lectures and scolding and research and phony blooney organizations 499 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: and your AI. Just stick it. 500 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: We got more coming up. Johnny jun KFI AM six 501 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: forty Live everywhere. iHeartRadio app dreadful. 502 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Dreadful news agency. The El Segundo Times is just dreadful. 503 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 504 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 505 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: Coming up after three o'clock, our guest will be a 506 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: candidate for Reli County District Attorney Eric Sadahal, who also 507 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: happens to be with the La County Association. 508 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: Of Deputy DA's. 509 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: He is a Deputy DA and he'd like to replace 510 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: George gascon On one of the people. 511 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: Running for that job and next Morch's primary. 512 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: He'd like to talk about, well, Israel versus Hamas and 513 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialists of America. 514 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: So we'll get into all of that and Gascon's. 515 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: Connecttion to that with Eric after the news at three o'clock. Well, 516 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: if you from the category of we give up right, Oh, 517 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: harm reduction, I forgot that's what it's called technically by 518 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: government officials, harm reduction policy. Today, a number of Los 519 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: Angeles County libraries are inviting you to come on in 520 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: and get yourself some Narcan. What that has to do 521 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: with libraries, I don't know. But five of them, in 522 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: the partnership with the Health Department, are going to hand 523 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: out one per customer the medication Narcan today. Actually the 524 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: clinic is going to run for a couple of weeks 525 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: through November ninth. 526 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: You'll get a. 527 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: Free dose, no proof of ID, you don't have to 528 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: show any insurance, there's no payment. You just have to 529 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: watch a brief video training of how to administer the 530 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: narkan two. 531 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, it's because of the drug addicts 532 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: that's fill up the libraries all day and then they 533 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: go into the restroom and inject fitadel and they die. 534 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: So who do you think is going to show up 535 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: to get these free doses? The drug addicts are people 536 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: that want to save their lives. 537 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: I don't really know. 538 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: It's going to be the librarians or maybe oh or 539 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: maybe or maybe maybe a customer. Maybe your like eight 540 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: year old son is going to wander into the restroom 541 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: after storytime at the library and he's gonna say, Mommy, 542 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a drug addict dying on the floor. Oh, son, 543 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: just go over to the librarian. She'll help you. You 544 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: need to administer some narcan. 545 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: Thank you, mommy. What the world to live in? Yeah? 546 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: This is this is the world. The librarians, I mean, 547 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: librarians are supposed to help people find books. That's why 548 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: they got into the business. They're supposed to have a 549 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: vast knowledge of the thousands of bucks, help children out 550 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: with their with with their with their homework assignments, and 551 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: help guide them to get that's antiquated. 552 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: That's old person thinking. 553 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: Yes, today's libraries are taking care almost theople in drug addicts. Yes, 554 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: because they need a place to hang out, like the 555 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: metro system. 556 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: Right, well, yeah, what's wrong with you? How come the 557 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: metro part of the community outreach? How come the metro 558 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: stations aren't good enough for these guys? Now that they 559 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: come into libraries, and and and they and they, and 560 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: they start fentonel and they die, and it's up to 561 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: little kids to revive them. It's up to mothers to 562 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: revive them. It's up to librarians to revive them. 563 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: We did that story a couple of months ago and 564 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: times about the La County Library, the chief library, Remember 565 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: that guy, And yes, this is the stuff he has 566 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: to think about now, is homeless people and people overdosing 567 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: in his libraries. He's too much of a wiener to 568 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: stand up and say this has gone to effing far. 569 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: You're all insane. We're supposed to be managing. 570 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Uh, the stock of all the books in the library, 571 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: that's what we're supposed to be managing. 572 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: Rag these people out of here and send them into 573 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: drug treatment, whether they like it or not. Yes, this 574 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: idea of harm reduction is stupid, silly, and dangerous. And 575 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: it's a failure. And this was their response. They started noticing, 576 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: noticing a lot more. Od's all right, well, how are 577 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 2: we gonna deal? All right, let's just give everybody narcan 578 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: and we're all supposed to get how long before there's 579 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: a California law requiring us all or they're just gonna 580 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: mail us narcan? 581 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Do you There is zero chance. I am just like a. 582 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: Ballot in the mail. 583 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm never going up to some crazed vagrant and giving 584 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: him narcan. That's not happening. Ever, I'm looking the other way. 585 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: How you do it? 586 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I'm looking the other way. 587 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm walking the other way. I'm not getting involved. I'm 588 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: not going to a library. My god, I wouldn't go 589 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: to a public library. It's that bad in the libraries, 590 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: that that that they want the people that they want 591 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: the public relying reviving dying drug addicts in the bathroom. 592 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: That's our job now when we go to the library 593 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: with our kids. 594 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, what is the protocol for administering can? Gently 595 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: insertain nozzle into one nostril fingers. Your fingers should be 596 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: right up against the nose rest the plunger, firmly with 597 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 2: your thumb to give the dose. I'm going to give 598 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: a second dose after three minutes if the person has 599 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: not woken up or their breathing's not improved. 600 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: That's how you would. 601 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: Yes, we're all medical technicians down. 602 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: So you have to grab the nose. 603 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my finger in the drug addicts nose. 604 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: You want to save a life, if you want to 605 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: be one of these people, it just turns away. 606 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm turning away. Send me to Hell. I'm turning away. 607 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm not putting my finger up some drug addicts nose. 608 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: We are a village. You have to help, sir people live. 609 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm leaving the village. 610 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: I always wondered how that works. 611 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: No, I'm not part of the villa. 612 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm going out on my own, almost like a like 613 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: a what people have had? No asthma's in the mouth. 614 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: There's something new that people have some sort of like problems. 615 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: When they're nose. They put their little of the inhaler. 616 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: But that's for that's for right. 617 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: But I'm not thinking of asthma. I'm thinking of people 618 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: that have like allergies and stuff. They put something a 619 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: little pump up their nose, right, Oh right, yes, I 620 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: think I've even used that before when I had a 621 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: cold or something like that. Yeah, I'm right, you know what, 622 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: I am not touching anybody's nose, just a nostril. 623 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not touching the worst. 624 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: One nostril, then up the other nostril. 625 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Touching the nostril. Imagine what you're gonna catch. 626 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, Eric Sadal will join us. 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