1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleven Glo to Washington, 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg to Boston, BLUEMBERG twelve hundreds to San Francisco, 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine to the country. See when he set jam 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: General one nine team and around the globe the Bloomberg 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Radio plus Zapp and Bloomberg got gone. This is taking stock. 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Coming up on taking stock. We're going to take stock 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: of the legal marijuana industry, estimated to be worth about 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: seven billion dollars, growing between twenty and twenty five percent 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: a year. We're gonna be speaking with the co founder 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: managing director of Cannabase. This is an online whostsale marijuana marketplace. 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: We've got details right now. Let's get details about business 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: news from Catherine Cowdery in the Bloomberg newsroom. Thank you, Pam. 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: The stock market retreating from an all time highs as 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: a new report showed weak retail spending and producer prices. 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: That report showed sales at US retailers were little change 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: in July's Americans flock to auto dealers at the expense 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: of other merchants. Ken Perkins, president of Retail Metrics, calls 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: the report disappointing. Especially for brick and mortar stores, as 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: more sales go online, and there's clearly a structural shift 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: in the way people shop, how they're shopping, when they're shopping, 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna unfold here and more so 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: than ever in the back to school shopping season. You know, 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: there isn't gonna be this rush that we've seen in 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: previous years and decades as a built up you know, 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: I think you can shop mobile on your phone at 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: any time, any place and have it delivered same day, 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: within an hour in some instances. I think there's a 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: lot more by now where now hype purchases. We check 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the markets every fifteen minutes throughout the trading day. Dow 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Industrial leverage is currently down fifty five points at third 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: over percent trading at eighteen thousand, five hundred fifty eight. 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Smp F I foundered down four points to tents of 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: a percent one then AzaC is down three points at 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: tenth of a percent at fifty two twenty four. West 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Texas Intermedy accrude oil of ninety four cents of barrel 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: to point two percent to forty four forty two speckled 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: down seven dollar sixty cents announced to thirteen four D 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: two forty tenure treasury of fifteen thirty seconds with the 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: yield of one point five zero percent. Among today's top 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: business stories, Fox News is unveiling a new senior leadership 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: team and management structure. It's name Fox Television Station CEO 42 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: Jack Abernathy and Senior Executive Vice president Bill Shrine to 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: serve as co president's effective immediately. In addition, Chief financial 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Officer Mark Rans will be retiring. Well, Steve Win got 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: fewer tables than he wanted for his Macau casino. He'll 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: be getting one hundred fifty gaming tables for his new 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: four point to billion dollar resort in Macau. It's another 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: signal that Macau is serious about limiting gambling growth. It's 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: two thirty two on Wall Street. Let's get an update 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: of some of the other stories were following today on 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Thank you Catherine from the Bloomberg Newsroom. I 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: Nancy lyons the Seka virus continues to spread in Miami. 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: The Florida Department of Health says it has confirmed three 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: more locally acquired cases. Governor Rick Scott says the state 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: is still though a big tourist destination despite Zica. We're 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna announce record tourism members for the second quarter of 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: this afternoon, so um have to keep that up there. 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: We have over one point two main jobs tours. Meanwhile, 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico says there have been more than nineteen hundred 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: new cases there over the past week and more than 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: ten thousand, six hundred today. Donald Trump's presidential campaign is 62 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: apparently pulling out of New Jersey. Nathan Hagar reports from 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: our Bloomberg newsroom in Washington. The Republican nominee has reportedly 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: closed his campaign headquarters in New Jersey, home to Governor 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Chris Christie. Federal election filing show he last paid rent 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: there only about a week after the office opened in May. 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: Several staffers reportedly haven't been paid since June. A New 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Jersey state senator who supports Trump tells Politico it was 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: the campaign's plan all along to close after New Jersey's 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: June seventh primary, but the office opened after Trump's eventual 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: nomination was a foregone conclusion. Nathan Hagar Bloomberg Radio, Washington, 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: and the New York Army National Guard unit known as 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: the Harlem Hell Fighters, has started two weeks of training 74 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: ahead of its deployment to Kuwait. About two hundred and 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: fifty soldiers left Westchester County to head to a training 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: facility in Pennsylvania. They'll be deployed to the Persian Gulf 77 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: this fall after more training in Texas. Global News twenty 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: four hours a day, powered by more than twenty six 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: hundred journalists and analysts and more than a hundred and 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: twenty countries. Nancy Lions, this is Bloomberg. Back to you, Catherine, 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. Now, let's get a quick check at the 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: benchmark Stowe Industrial leverage down fifty four points at eighteen thousand, 83 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: five hundred fifty eight SMP five fundered down four points one, 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: then has to act down three points at fifty two five. 85 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: And that's a Bloomberg business flash the whole pat and 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: I guess he brings his own music with him wherever 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: he goes. Matt Miller, my co host, filling in for 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Kathleen Hayes. This is taking stock. I'm pim Fox. The 89 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: legal marijuana industry is estimated to be worth about seven 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: billion dollars, growing between twenty five percent a year. This 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: despite the current action by the Drug Enforcement Administration rejecting 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: petitions to remove marijuana from its most highly restricted classification 93 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: of drugs. Here to tell us more about the marijuana 94 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: industry is Jennifer Beck, the co founder and the managing 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: director of Cannabase. Jennifer, thanks for being with us. Thank 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: you so much for having me. What is Cannabase? How 97 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: do you describe it to people that are not familiar 98 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: with the industry? Great, So, Cannabase is the largest and 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: oldest online exchange platform for licensed cannabis businesses. So we're 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: the oldest and largest wholesale platform. UM. The core is 101 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: our wholesale market where we represent sevent of marijuana licenses 102 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: in Colorado, and we're a one stop shop for retailers 103 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: to stock their shelves and allow cultivators to flower or 104 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: trim to either retailers or extractors. So I can understand. 105 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: We all know where you can get cannabis legally now, 106 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: but I wonder where you can grow it. Can you 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: grow it in all the same states that it's legal 108 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: to buy it? Absolutely so, because interstate commerce actually isn't allowed. 109 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: You have to grow it in the state that you're 110 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: going to sell it. Um, and then it's a matter 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: of whether or not that state is vertically integrated. So 112 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Colorado's market, our medical market is still vertically integrated, which 113 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: means that if you have a retail center, you actually 114 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: have to grow sev of your own products. But hang on, 115 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: you can't get Does that mean if I go to 116 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Colorado to buy marijuana, I can't get anything from Humble County. No? 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. All of the product has to be grown 118 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: within Colorado. So our wholesale exchange is a state by 119 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: state exchange. Now the state by state exchange, tell us 120 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: how it would actually work. Give us an example. So 121 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: how it would work is you that either have a 122 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: cultivation license, a retail license, or an infused product manufacturer 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: license which would allow you make edibles. And then some 124 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: people have both, um, you know, a combination of the 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: two or the three. Um. Then you go on Cannabase 126 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: as a cultivator retailer and you would list the product 127 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: you have available flower trim, extract, oil, candy bars, whatever 128 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: you're looking to sell. Or as a retailer, you can 129 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: log on and you can shop products and you can 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: buy it. Help me figure out the margins at these dispensaries. Um. 131 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I mean, we always thought 132 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: about an eighth as like a thirty dollar purchase. Uh, 133 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: I guess fifty dollars if you're in New York City. 134 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: What are we looking at as far as wholesale levels. 135 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Wholesale wise, UM, we're seeing that we have two types 136 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: of markets, medical and recreational. The medical market has actually 137 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: helped steady. The medical market is still vertically integrated, so 138 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: you have to have both licenses UM, and you have 139 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: to be a Red card holder to buy Red card 140 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: holders buying metal product are going to see around those 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: prices like you're saying thirty bucks, UM, taxes are going 142 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: to be a bit lower. On the medical side. Recreational 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: vertical integration expired, so now we have stand alone cultivations 144 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: and stand alone retail centers, which means there's been a 145 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: real supply gut. We've had a lot of products coming 146 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: into the market from large standalone grows. So on the 147 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: recreational side, product has actually become way cheaper. Where says 148 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: we were seeing about two thousand dollars a pound since 149 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: recreational came into the market, now it's selling about thousand 150 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: dollars a pound, So those prices are beginning to impact 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: the consumer. It's becoming cheaper for consumers to buy recreational product. 152 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: Since taxes on recreational product is slightly higher than medical, 153 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: that two are starting to even out on the consumer side, Jennifer, 154 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: how does cannabase make money? So, because we are really 155 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: not allowed to be too involved and we aren't allowed 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: to buy the product and market up and sell it 157 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: because it isn't a three cheered system here in Colorado. 158 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: So Cannabase utilizes an online marketing model where we fell 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: gus on bringing in the most clients, the most engagement, 160 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: and then we make money off the data that we're 161 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: aggregating from those users and from marketing tools. We have 162 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: the most targeted platform for ancillary businesses to come in 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: and actually reach cannabis business decision makers, and we have 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: a full suite of online marketing tools available for them 165 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: to do so. So, how is the banking end of 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: this working out? I know that for a long time 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: it was very difficult for cannas cannabis businesses um to 168 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: do banking because banks, even in legal states weren't willing 169 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: to form those relationships. Has that changed a little bit, Um, 170 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: It's still very very difficult to get traditional banking. I'd 171 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: say most dispensaries, UM and cultivators at this point are 172 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: able to get a checking account, but mostly it's because 173 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: they'll use an LLC name that isn't related to their 174 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: cannabis name that they're doing business as UM, so that 175 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: allow them to get a basic checking account and you 176 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: have checks, but getting credit cards, loans, traditional financing is 177 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: still completely out of the question. Now. Can of As 178 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: was acquired by Helix TCS in July. What is Helix TCS. 179 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Helix TCS is a provider of integrated operating environment solutions 180 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: for cannabis businesses, So the TCS stands for Technology, Compliance 181 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: and Security. Helix came into the market as a security 182 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: provider and has grown into the largest security provider in 183 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: the state UM in the last year, so absolutely explosive growth. 184 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: And Cannabase has come on board to not only use 185 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Helix logistical infrastructure to make our marketplace more powerful, but 186 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: also to accelerate our own growth. So since we've been 187 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: here with Helix, we've solidified major partnerships with see the deal, 188 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: tracking companies and data companies. All right, Jennifer, thanks very much. 189 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: Jennifer Beck There, co founder and managing director of Cannabase 190 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: fought by Helix uh In earlier in the summer. You 191 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: can find out h l i X on the Bloomberg. 192 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: This Hampton's Commuter Minute is brought to you by land Rover. 193 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: When towers seem like trees and roads become rivers, the 194 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: range Rover Evoke is there to guide you through the 195 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: twists and turns of the urban jungle. 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