Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, Hi guys, we need after that episode? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need a drink for this is probably going to
Speaker 1: be the title of this episode. Honestly, I've got liquors
Speaker 1: somewhere from one of our previous recordings. I can't do
Speaker 1: this straight faced. This was the first time I think
Speaker 1: we've actually looked at each other and gone, how are
Speaker 1: we going to make it through the rest of this?
Speaker 1: There are twenty more minutes of this. This was not
Speaker 1: a good episode, is in This was its episode three
Speaker 1: episode le okay, it's his return of the future, which
Speaker 1: we had kind of high hopes for. It sounds, you know,
Speaker 1: futuristic and exciting. Was not. It was not exciting. There's
Speaker 1: going to be spacesuits and there were boards, and this
Speaker 1: episode was trash. The Ravens losing Street continues and Whitey
Speaker 1: forces the team to find another home. Jim in a
Speaker 1: incredibly tropy. I'm gonna make y'all play in a We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to work for it. Kids, clean this place
Speaker 1: until it shines like the top of the building. Nathan
Speaker 1: gets upseted Haley when Dan puts the idea in his
Speaker 1: head that she's trying to trap him with that. Baby
Speaker 1: Brook finds an unlikely ally with her designs when she
Speaker 1: gets in Rogue Vogue. Ellian Peyton continue to bond best
Speaker 1: part of the episode. I wish the whole episode had
Speaker 1: just been you too. Um continue to bond over music,
Speaker 1: might together an album that will benefit charity, and finally
Speaker 1: Keith returns to tree Hill, but Dan gets in the
Speaker 1: way of his happily ever after with Karen his pinstripe suit. Guys,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about it. I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it yet. I'm not going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I still have that biold taste in my throat where
Speaker 1: I'm like, we have to talk about what we talked
Speaker 1: about last week? Um, can we just find out joys
Speaker 1: love life? Because that's all we talk about. The suitor
Speaker 1: whose instagram we did a deep dive into will never
Speaker 1: tell you who he is, but we know all we know.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know you know what, Like I
Speaker 1: spend a few days thinking like, did you know? Was
Speaker 1: I for reacting? You know, like, no, I've had I've
Speaker 1: been in I've been in moods where I was just
Speaker 1: feeling happy and friendly and like, hey, you let's say,
Speaker 1: let's sit down have lunch. You seem nice and I'm nice,
Speaker 1: and let's have a chat. You know, we're both kind
Speaker 1: of new in town and let's just sit and chat.
Speaker 1: And then like as the lunch goes on, oh wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really attracted to this person. Maybe, so like I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: I got maybe I could give him a little bit
Speaker 1: of space for that felt unsure. Hillary is just shaking ahead. No,
Speaker 1: because we talked to our husband's. I did because because
Speaker 1: you know, there's going to be somebody who's like, god,
Speaker 1: you girls are so uptight. No, we're not. Because guess
Speaker 1: who else is mad about this? Our husbands. We gave
Speaker 1: we gave this thing the smell test to both Grant
Speaker 1: and Jeff, and they've got notes. They're very upset. They
Speaker 1: both were like that's absolutely unacceptable. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: the first time we've gone to dinner was just the
Speaker 1: two of us, and we're like, we're not going to
Speaker 1: talk about the kids, you know. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you about this joy. I laid it
Speaker 1: all out for him, and I was like, just out
Speaker 1: of curiosity, have you ever invited a strange woman to
Speaker 1: sit with you during lunch where you talk for hours
Speaker 1: and don't tell her about me? And he's like, uh no,
Speaker 1: first of a half, and you would destroy her. But
Speaker 1: second of all, um, that's totally a date. That's a date.
Speaker 1: And he was offended and he was like, let me
Speaker 1: see the guy's Instagram. And we the Morgans, don't think
Speaker 1: he's attractive enough for all of that. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna is what we're gonna do. Look, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it was my type. If you walked into a room
Speaker 1: with cute boys and you know there was attractive men
Speaker 1: in there, that's probably the one you would have picked
Speaker 1: for me, Like tall lumberjackie, you know, like disheveled, smart,
Speaker 1: like this is great dish. But but you were alright
Speaker 1: than that, a little less diss but truly, Like when
Speaker 1: I talked to Grant about it. He was like, listen,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this last week, Ladies, like, that's
Speaker 1: the kind of many I'm sorry. Grant's the kind of
Speaker 1: person who was like, he's he's sweet, open, see him
Speaker 1: like striking up a conversation with someone quite innocently and
Speaker 1: just you know, so I am actually interested to knowing,
Speaker 1: particularly what he thinks too. Yeah. By the way, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things about my husband, still not used
Speaker 1: to saying, it still feels really fun um is that
Speaker 1: literally like I can I can take him anywhere. We
Speaker 1: can lose each other at a party, and he's always
Speaker 1: having a great time. He's made a new friend, can't
Speaker 1: wait to talk to me about the person that he
Speaker 1: met and what we're gonna do, and we wind up
Speaker 1: inviting people to dinner. I love that about him. His
Speaker 1: point was, look, it's great if you're social, but if
Speaker 1: you're hiding your life, she lied to her, That's what
Speaker 1: he said. He said that man lied to her. And
Speaker 1: when I said, yeah, you know, my feedback to Joy
Speaker 1: was you and Maria could have had new friends in
Speaker 1: town if you've known that this guy and his fiance
Speaker 1: had a farm, like y'all could have been family friends.
Speaker 1: And Grant said, exactly, but he lied to her. When
Speaker 1: you leave out one of the most important facts of
Speaker 1: your life, you're lying and not only. Grant's point was
Speaker 1: that not only did this guy lie to you, but
Speaker 1: he lied about her. Yeah, and to do that to
Speaker 1: the person that you have pledged your life too is dark.
Speaker 1: I am this is why we're mad. And Grant was like,
Speaker 1: we need we need to introduce joy to someone. I'm
Speaker 1: going to think about this because this is unacceptable. You
Speaker 1: guys know how sometimes like Entertainment Weekly or some of
Speaker 1: these news outlets will pick up things that we've talked
Speaker 1: about in the podcast and turn them into a news story.
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do when they take this the
Speaker 1: case of the lying farmer, and they turned into a story,
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh my god, Okay, well listen, if
Speaker 1: if we're if we're going to do what the tabloids
Speaker 1: would do for one more second, let me just follow
Speaker 1: up that. In addition to y'all going through his Instagram,
Speaker 1: I showed it to Grant and then I said, and look,
Speaker 1: because if you scroll so far down and you find
Speaker 1: the only picture she's in, and then you go to
Speaker 1: her page, he goes, let me, guess he's in every
Speaker 1: photo and I said yes. So she tells the truth
Speaker 1: about her life and this man, this man is telling
Speaker 1: a lie about his life, and I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And things are all very offensive, bad instincts, even on
Speaker 1: even on the most generous benefit of the doubt level,
Speaker 1: even there, and you go, Okay, he's just finding himself
Speaker 1: attracted and didn't expect to and doesn't know what to do. Listen,
Speaker 1: every time you have a choice to do the right
Speaker 1: thing or or be selfish, and those moments happen every day,
Speaker 1: all the time. You have a choice in that moment,
Speaker 1: and what you do with that choice is the measure
Speaker 1: of your character, That is who you are. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen in the charity cases that you show
Speaker 1: up to take care of. It doesn't happen in all
Speaker 1: the big grand gestures. It happens in those small moments
Speaker 1: when you have a split second choice and you have
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. And what I will say is,
Speaker 1: we're all human. It's impossible, infallible. Everyone has had low moments.
Speaker 1: Everyone has. You know, you think of your highest highs,
Speaker 1: you've got your lowest lows. You have things you regret.
Speaker 1: You have things about your past you wish you could change.
Speaker 1: You have decisions you wish you could have made differently,
Speaker 1: but not to be you know, tropy and annoying. But
Speaker 1: at our age, come on, come on, we're even ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I could have gone you know what, Maybe
Speaker 1: he felt pressured and they got engaged and he's trying
Speaker 1: to get out and he saw you and he didn't
Speaker 1: want to chance get away and he's breaking up with
Speaker 1: her next week. No, at this point, absolutely, we are
Speaker 1: so adult. And the fact that when you gave him
Speaker 1: the opportunity to tell the truth and say, I asked
Speaker 1: you to have lunch because you seem so nice, and
Speaker 1: then we got to talking and then suddenly I thought, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I've done this. I've done this thing. This feels like
Speaker 1: a date. I don't know how to tell her. I'm engaged.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed, and I should have just told you. I'm
Speaker 1: so mortified. If he said that maybe you could be friends.
Speaker 1: Literally you could see him around town and meet us
Speaker 1: fiance at a coffee shop one day, and you all
Speaker 1: could become friends and laugh about it. But the way
Speaker 1: he reacted, well, if I had a dollar for every
Speaker 1: time a girl hit on me fired. The boys are
Speaker 1: on our side. I don't need girls. I don't need
Speaker 1: I don't need to please please whatever I need. I
Speaker 1: don't need you. I could ask you. I can get
Speaker 1: any girl I want. Like, he's not a twenty four
Speaker 1: year old ding Dung. We are grown ups. And it
Speaker 1: was a follow up That's what really kicked me, because
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, walking away from that
Speaker 1: lunch and being like, okay, you know what, you had
Speaker 1: a weird moment. It's selfish and rude, but okay, fine.
Speaker 1: It was the follow up two days later that was
Speaker 1: the real kicker. That's what it was. That I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna say anything. I was like, I got to your number,
Speaker 1: but I'm just going to back off. I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: talk to this guy again. It's fine because the fact
Speaker 1: that he that was That's why my immediate response was like, yeah, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you engaged. Why are you talking to me? Why are
Speaker 1: you talking to me? Why are you still here? Why
Speaker 1: are you still here? To your storyline in the episode Joy,
Speaker 1: because Haley is not suffering any bulgeon. There we go, Hillary,
Speaker 1: Now look for real as we're talking about this, like
Speaker 1: Ding Jong boy, you know the world revolves around them.
Speaker 1: The world revolves around their goals and their hopes and
Speaker 1: their dreams. Fantastic, congratulations Nathan, you're good at sports. This
Speaker 1: idea that like Haley's trying to trap him, his quickness
Speaker 1: to buy into Daddy's narrative, it's very uncle to me.
Speaker 1: And also that I could see it. I could see
Speaker 1: it because of because of the town history, because of
Speaker 1: Karen and Debb. That's what it feels like. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: this is a thing women do. But we commented how
Speaker 1: yelly this episode was. But perhaps my issue is more
Speaker 1: with the way it was scripted, where if you notice
Speaker 1: in this episode, everyone went from zero to a hundred
Speaker 1: very quickly, and and every scene was only like half
Speaker 1: a page long, so it's just these tiny vignettes of
Speaker 1: people screaming at each other. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: It was relax what's relaxed. What I'll say is that
Speaker 1: you're Your willingness to be vulnerable in real life is
Speaker 1: something that I really respect about you, and you've always
Speaker 1: been that way. You've always been the one to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good, this doesn't feel nice. Can we
Speaker 1: talk about it? Even we were kids, you were the
Speaker 1: person that would be like, let's I don't feel nice,
Speaker 1: let's talk. Hailey does that in this episode where she's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand that you're all whacked out right now, but
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel nice, So I'm not going to make
Speaker 1: it better for you. It's not my job to fix this,
Speaker 1: which is so great after she's been groveling thank you
Speaker 1: that um and I thought for a second, I was like,
Speaker 1: is this a defense mechanism? Because now she got him
Speaker 1: back and now he's being weird again, and so instead
Speaker 1: of being worry, instead of turning it back around on herself,
Speaker 1: she's she's angry and like letting out all of her
Speaker 1: frustration that she's had pent up or is is this legitimate?
Speaker 1: But it's legitimate. He's he's being irrational and crazy, and
Speaker 1: I think it's really important that line that she has
Speaker 1: been very willing to see his pain. She's been very
Speaker 1: willing to say I hurt you, and I know why
Speaker 1: you're struggling to trust me again. Haley and Lucas have
Speaker 1: this interesting parallel with that a little bit. But Haley
Speaker 1: is being kind and Lucas is being the king of
Speaker 1: Mr Ex and and I like that in this moment,
Speaker 1: it's this goes past his feelings and into an accusation
Speaker 1: that while you can say, like I get that you
Speaker 1: have trauma because this is your dad's story, how dare you?
Speaker 1: I love the way so much writing I could criticize
Speaker 1: in this episode, but that you were scripted to say
Speaker 1: some you know what what you said about being seventeen
Speaker 1: and having your own dreams and your own career goals.
Speaker 1: It's like this idea that women just trapped men with
Speaker 1: babies and you're like, hey, i'd have to carry it.
Speaker 1: I'd be a teen mom, I'd be giving up my future,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't some casual thing to me. And it
Speaker 1: was such a nice call out. Yeah, like it's not
Speaker 1: a small deal for a girl of any age to
Speaker 1: get pregnant. Screw you, dude, Like I loved that that
Speaker 1: there was that Wherewithal it really is like who do
Speaker 1: you think you are? Who do you think I am?
Speaker 1: How stupid do you think I am? Yes? And I
Speaker 1: like desport for you do you think I am? Right?
Speaker 1: It's like I wanted you, I don't I don't need you, yea.
Speaker 1: And that goes into her being really clear about why
Speaker 1: she wasn't on birth control. She's like, I'm sorry, you're
Speaker 1: yelling at me. You left me, I was gone and
Speaker 1: I wasn't sleeping with that guy you thought I was
Speaker 1: sleeping with. And by the way, you could have not
Speaker 1: been an idiot. At the end of the unprotected sex night, Sir,
Speaker 1: I really liked that. I really liked it. It takes
Speaker 1: to Nathan. I was like, yes, Haley, you're right, it
Speaker 1: sure does. Absolutely. Yeah, that's never happened to me before.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are a children present, but that that
Speaker 1: moment of questioning, hey, hey you were you were taking
Speaker 1: care of that, right, because I didn't, like, I've I've
Speaker 1: never experienced that, like I'm sorry, excuse me, sorry, No,
Speaker 1: it's actually almost always their responsibility. But you know what
Speaker 1: I think is really interesting about that. This is one
Speaker 1: of the moments where I relish in our on screen
Speaker 1: friendship in the in the Halien Brooke of it, because
Speaker 1: the girls are being the adults in the room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're having a conversation and I'm like, I love that
Speaker 1: you're back with your houseband. What I'm mad at you
Speaker 1: that you had unsafe sex and we have this like
Speaker 1: safe sex talk that is actually frank and and once
Speaker 1: we get into it, we ask each other questions and
Speaker 1: there's no judgment. There's like real encouragement of exploration of
Speaker 1: a relationship dynamic. And thank god we're getting it somewhere
Speaker 1: with our female friendships, because with the boys, we're just
Speaker 1: being accused of ridiculous nous. It's totally ridiculous. Throw my
Speaker 1: hands up. I've had a great No, it's nice. It's
Speaker 1: nice to see that between us. I love our conversations.
Speaker 1: I do love our conversations in this episode, and that
Speaker 1: the conversation that you guys had was so much better
Speaker 1: than the conversation that Luke and Nathan had because they
Speaker 1: essentially have the same conversation where he's like, and how
Speaker 1: to pregnancy skin get a man like, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's so just broade out and it doesn't get to
Speaker 1: any point of honesty where it's like, hey, it's on
Speaker 1: us to always have protection, it's on us to be
Speaker 1: participants in this safe sex game. Like at no point
Speaker 1: did they hold each other accountable in the way that
Speaker 1: the girls do. The girls are having in this very
Speaker 1: adult conversation, the boys are like, do let anything in
Speaker 1: the way of basketball, man? I mean, while the girls
Speaker 1: are like, well, do you think in your subconscious mind
Speaker 1: you did really want to just launch back into your family?
Speaker 1: You know what? That's the way we are sports. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean we buy the three of us. That's kind
Speaker 1: of our game. Yeah, was there anything else? Do you mean?
Speaker 1: In this episode? Look? I really thought Karen and Keith
Speaker 1: was going to be something I'd be excited to see,
Speaker 1: but I just it was so clunky. It's like, you
Speaker 1: really didn't like it. Keith came home and his face
Speaker 1: was all shaved and he didn't have cyberns and also bandana.
Speaker 1: Where's this? I don't know if his boots were even
Speaker 1: tucked into his jeans. Who is this man? It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Craig came on our show and talked about
Speaker 1: the fight that he had with our bosses about how
Speaker 1: they wanted him to be super clean cut, and so
Speaker 1: they wrote him out of a whole bunch of episodes,
Speaker 1: and it felt like, Okay, well you're coming back, but
Speaker 1: you're coming back on our terms. And the way that
Speaker 1: we can show that Keith is a new man is
Speaker 1: by tidying him up in this like super clean cut way. Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna play. But you're gonna play by our rules.
Speaker 1: And it just felt like if Karen was going to
Speaker 1: have the hots for Keith, she wanted, you know, mechanic Keith,
Speaker 1: Keith with the floppy boots. That's the key. I will
Speaker 1: say I did like that scene for him, well for
Speaker 1: both of them really, when he fixed her car and
Speaker 1: she came out in that little dress and it was
Speaker 1: just sweet. I bet Andy could have a team of
Speaker 1: guys do this, and she just dropped the honesty on him.
Speaker 1: I traveled halfway around the world, but that's what happened,
Speaker 1: was right here. When you're our age, When you're our age,
Speaker 1: there's no time. Why waste time? Why are we wasting time?
Speaker 1: Not just being a honest you know? I love that
Speaker 1: about about Karen. Ya got the memo we're too old
Speaker 1: for We're too old for this. I do like though
Speaker 1: that as much as they made him clean up, Craig
Speaker 1: was like, I'm keeping this bandana and like the gred
Speaker 1: one was there. It was the picture of Bruce Springsteen's
Speaker 1: Born in the USA cover with the jeans and the
Speaker 1: red handkerchief was silent rebellion. Just like they can't win
Speaker 1: all the way. I'm gonna let them win a little,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to win all the way. It's
Speaker 1: right that, I will say truly. For as much weird
Speaker 1: energy as there was in this episode, and and as
Speaker 1: clunky as the scenes felt, and as much as I
Speaker 1: hated that they wrote Lucas to still be misdirecting book
Speaker 1: and then to tease her about sex and that like
Speaker 1: he's not in love and then he's like just kidding
Speaker 1: him in love with you, the highlight for me was
Speaker 1: Peyton and Ellie. I wanted the whole episode to be
Speaker 1: you and your mom on a road trip meeting with
Speaker 1: bands and having her It was like she was building
Speaker 1: the yellow brick road for you, like you she right.
Speaker 1: You see her teaching Peyton all the cool like rock
Speaker 1: and roll world band manager tricks, and as a viewer,
Speaker 1: I could see, not just for her, how refreshing it
Speaker 1: is that Peyton's in a moment of joy, but I,
Speaker 1: as Sophia could see you as Hillary having fun and
Speaker 1: it's so funny you have fun. That was It was
Speaker 1: a big change. I kept thinking, I was like, what
Speaker 1: is it about? I mean, you're beautiful no matter what,
Speaker 1: but there was there was a different light about you
Speaker 1: in this episode. And your hair was done a little differently,
Speaker 1: and your skin looked really glowy, and your makeup was lovely.
Speaker 1: But it was that you were happy, and it was
Speaker 1: so nice to just see Peyton being happy. I felt
Speaker 1: like very protected in my storyline with Cheryl. I wasn't
Speaker 1: being asked to do anything compromising. I wasn't having to
Speaker 1: kiss any of the boys on the show, which isn't
Speaker 1: like an awful thing, but it is, you know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: I was just asked to connect with someone who I
Speaker 1: really really really liked, and it felt so fun and
Speaker 1: so safe. And in that scene where she's telling me
Speaker 1: about the day that Peyton was born, like I found
Speaker 1: myself as Hilary just like hungry for that, Like I
Speaker 1: wanted to know every minute of that experience and then
Speaker 1: what and then what and then what and and yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, um, I don't know watching her, m hm,
Speaker 1: she's so glittery and like when she throws her hands
Speaker 1: up in the air when the band like agrees to everything,
Speaker 1: she lights up. I just I'm so enamored with this
Speaker 1: person um in front of the camera and you know,
Speaker 1: like off screen that Yeah, I would can sign me
Speaker 1: up for anything, sure, really ever does ever, like she's
Speaker 1: just a magic person. Our editors also did such a
Speaker 1: beautiful job because when you guys have that conversation, you
Speaker 1: say not a surface in and she throws her arms
Speaker 1: up right when her hands get all the way out
Speaker 1: stretched as one always love kicks in. You always notice
Speaker 1: the music cues. Look at you, it's happening again and
Speaker 1: no I'm not okay. It made me cry and I'm
Speaker 1: crying again, Like it was such a moment and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh god, it was beautiful between the two
Speaker 1: that you know is look at you. So I just
Speaker 1: wish more fill storytelling was about those relationships. There's so
Speaker 1: much emphasis put on boyfriend's boyfriend's boyfriends or girlfriend's friends,
Speaker 1: look whatever, and I get it, like I was the
Speaker 1: kid who was loved crazy forever. Um. But I also
Speaker 1: have like a like a family thing where I like
Speaker 1: stories about families because I I'm not necessarily good at
Speaker 1: that all the time, and so I like watching it.
Speaker 1: I like those narratives because they helped me understand like
Speaker 1: what I'm doing wrong or what I can do better,
Speaker 1: or what maybe things should look like. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: and Ellie is just you know, one of those little
Speaker 1: magical bubbles that we got to play in. I also
Speaker 1: think that having more examples set can be really helpful,
Speaker 1: not just for us you know now watching families learning
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in terms of how to navigate it,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, but as a young person, I think
Speaker 1: sometimes the reason that young love can feel so all
Speaker 1: consuming or or life shattering when it ends is because
Speaker 1: we have so many shows like this that just focus
Speaker 1: on who are you in love with and who as
Speaker 1: you and that's the most important thing, as though that's it,
Speaker 1: and then you think, well, this is all I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be thinking about. And when we watch episodes where
Speaker 1: we have a really good balance of these young kids
Speaker 1: finding themselves, finding themselves in their families, um figuring out
Speaker 1: how to excel in school, find out what they're passionate about.
Speaker 1: In addition to yes, the you know, the beautiful fragment
Speaker 1: of life that is finding love, it feels more balanced,
Speaker 1: it's more enjoyable, and then things become less repetitive and
Speaker 1: trophy like. If we do too much relationship drama, it
Speaker 1: gets annoying and it's like we've seen it a hundred times.
Speaker 1: If all Dan Scott has is to be the evil
Speaker 1: mustache guy. We're like, oh my god, they've made him
Speaker 1: do the same thing for five episodes. We get annoyed
Speaker 1: with it. I like a balance better, and I think
Speaker 1: it's why it's so refreshing having Peyton and Ellie having
Speaker 1: this beautiful storyline, because it adds something to our show.
Speaker 1: It makes it better. Well, I miss, because I think
Speaker 1: that's a great point. I am just as excited to
Speaker 1: watch Haley fall in love with music and Broke fall
Speaker 1: in love with her fashion line as I am to
Speaker 1: see them fall in love with Luke and Nathan. Like cool, great,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the magic of the potential and the
Speaker 1: unknown and the excitement, you know, Like that's riveting to watch.
Speaker 1: And the reason this episode fell so flat is that
Speaker 1: we know all that content is there, and right now
Speaker 1: it's just like boys, boys, boys, boys boys. These boys
Speaker 1: are tough to deal with, you know, and Luca is
Speaker 1: being all, you know, misdirect and Nathan's picking fights to
Speaker 1: pick fights and repeating a cycle that is frankly boring
Speaker 1: at this point. It's boring to watch. That's what we said.
Speaker 1: We all were just like, I'm so bored. The cycle
Speaker 1: is boring. Dan Scott showing up with no redeeming qualities
Speaker 1: is boring. And sometimes what happens is when you have
Speaker 1: different writers on every episode. What I found with my
Speaker 1: character is that every single writer, every single visiting director,
Speaker 1: wanted that moment of Peyton crying, right, and so you
Speaker 1: just end up doing that one thing over and over again.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's happened with Dan. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to have the Dan moment, and it's just like, guys,
Speaker 1: we've done it for three seasons, Like, show Dan doing
Speaker 1: something king adorable? What if Dan saved a baby? What
Speaker 1: if there was a baby character roll down the street
Speaker 1: and then the baby you know, yeah, and then Devin
Speaker 1: Karen could have a great joke about of course he
Speaker 1: did you know? There could be a moment? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I uh. I just think sometimes that's a it's a
Speaker 1: pitfall of a writer's room where you've got different writers
Speaker 1: on every episode because everyone's working kind of in a bubble,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to know, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What are you doing? All right, Well,
Speaker 1: I won't make Dan crazy in this episode. I'll actually
Speaker 1: make him really likable so that it packs a punch
Speaker 1: in your episode. I also think sometimes on a show
Speaker 1: with a cast of this size, people will get really
Speaker 1: focused on the thing that needs to happen, Like they
Speaker 1: want Nathan and Haley to have this big fight because
Speaker 1: is Nathan going to become Dan? And then because that's
Speaker 1: such a focus, they'll get lazy with Dan or you know,
Speaker 1: they want there to be this push and pull with Brooke,
Speaker 1: and somebody says, well, Lucas should tease Brooke with these
Speaker 1: mister acts where he says something that makes her feel
Speaker 1: real bad about herself, and then he'll be like, I'm kidding,
Speaker 1: your my favorite person. I'm obsessed with you, and it's
Speaker 1: like a throwaway comment. But then two writers on two
Speaker 1: different episodes here and they each do it in their
Speaker 1: episode three times. So then you're like, well, I hate this.
Speaker 1: Instead of it being impactful, I hate it. So I
Speaker 1: wonder how many moments we had like that, what if
Speaker 1: Dan was like a really good mayor what if Dan
Speaker 1: was doing in the town that we're actually wonderful and
Speaker 1: then it was juxtaposed by this behind closed doors stuff,
Speaker 1: But instead it's just all slimy. Yeah, it's it's a weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, we and you know, we had twenty two episodes,
Speaker 1: sometimes twenty four. I think, god, um, but it's funny
Speaker 1: now when you look at how it's uh. TV shows
Speaker 1: are twelve to thirteen episodes, you know at max sixteen,
Speaker 1: but that's pretty rare um and they usually take a
Speaker 1: long time to draw out a storyline over that period
Speaker 1: of time. We had twenty two episodes. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I guess it just wasn't the thing to do. It
Speaker 1: wasn't popular back then. We always thought we might be canceled.
Speaker 1: So they were just like, we gotta always wrap everything
Speaker 1: up so bad well, And I think that's a big
Speaker 1: part of it too, is when you have that many episodes,
Speaker 1: things do become repetitive because it's so much time to fill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they can do it like it's an hour. I
Speaker 1: mean we can always flash back to death at the fire,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, were seeing with her and Keith? Or
Speaker 1: it was shot all shaky like we're watching twenty four
Speaker 1: or whatever was an episode of Intervention. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this? Like, what person is in the bed
Speaker 1: with these two? It was very it was a very
Speaker 1: disjointed episdisode. But I will say talking about it for
Speaker 1: the last thirty two minutes. I realized there were more
Speaker 1: highlights than we thought because we really were bored the
Speaker 1: whole time. Okay, who else? What else happened in this episode? Rachel?
Speaker 1: Rachel admitted designs. I liked that that was redeeming moment.
Speaker 1: Although she had an event, she had an alternator motive.
Speaker 1: This is the thing. We were getting to the end
Speaker 1: of that scene, and I'm watching me and Daniel be
Speaker 1: in these real cute little rivals who are deeply obsessed
Speaker 1: with each other and mad about it. Like I'm a
Speaker 1: big Rachel fan, guys, and I was like, man, look
Speaker 1: at starting. We're cute. And then I walk away from
Speaker 1: her and she goes, no, thank you, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: what evil thing did she have planned? Dear, I genuinely
Speaker 1: don't remember. Don't either. I think that Rachel loves you,
Speaker 1: like I honestly think, because I remember being in high
Speaker 1: school and not necessarily like wanting to go out with
Speaker 1: a girl, but I remember there were girls that I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't stop thinking about this, like this
Speaker 1: chick is just in my brain. In my brain, Rachel's
Speaker 1: got a thing where she's fixated on Brooke, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm either going to win this girl over or I'm
Speaker 1: going to destroy her, or I'm going to win over
Speaker 1: her and I'm gonna win over her by destroying her
Speaker 1: and then make her my pet. You know, like there's
Speaker 1: there's just like kind of this sexy power thing going
Speaker 1: on between two of you that Yeah, I like it
Speaker 1: for sure, And I couldn't help being amused by Danielle.
Speaker 1: And you can see it on my face. You're not
Speaker 1: winnissed off. You're like when she admits it and I
Speaker 1: have this like I try to talk and I get
Speaker 1: stuck moment and I'm like, oh no, that's that's real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's You're not really mad. You're trying to put the
Speaker 1: puzzle piece together, and honestly, I think you you should
Speaker 1: just kiss. Like you guys are super freaking cute. There's
Speaker 1: a way, like eventually you guys start mirroring each other
Speaker 1: and the way you wear your hair and the way
Speaker 1: you it's so cute. You guys become roommates. I missed,
Speaker 1: Yes that happened. Oh my god, joy. This is why
Speaker 1: I'm like, what evil thing does she does? Because I
Speaker 1: know what's coming, but obviously not that well, it's this
Speaker 1: show we're being made today. Brooke and Rachel would have
Speaker 1: gotten a kiss, and I would have liked that. You
Speaker 1: know who else Brook really likes in this episode, Uncle
Speaker 1: Keith coming back. I ran and jumped into his arms,
Speaker 1: like launching herself at Superman. Oh god, Sophia, when you
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, but your body like blocks
Speaker 1: who you're running up to go see? So I had
Speaker 1: because I was I really missed Craig. I don't know
Speaker 1: what else to say. Craig. It was great that she
Speaker 1: was back. Should the pole be? Should Brooke have been
Speaker 1: that excited to see Uncle Keith? Should she? I liked it.
Speaker 1: I liked what you said Hill that that that's what
Speaker 1: you do. It's like a cute young girl thing to do.
Speaker 1: And you know, I still do it like I want
Speaker 1: to care about the things that you care about. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show that I care. It's a good girlfriend. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is my boyfriend's favorite. And plus we
Speaker 1: all really missed Craig. Yeah, we missed him a lot,
Speaker 1: we did. Yeah. I also like that Craig. Craig was
Speaker 1: given these jokes once once I say, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: go sleep on my couch. You guys have time to
Speaker 1: catch up. And Craig and Lucas leave together. He at
Speaker 1: the Fountain had jokes two insinuate that we knew how
Speaker 1: ridiculous the fire storyline was, and I liked that the
Speaker 1: writers did that. Yeah, I like that they had him
Speaker 1: poke fun at a pretty major jumping of the shark
Speaker 1: that we did on our episode. It made me laugh.
Speaker 1: Ye well, because it's just it doesn't feel like part
Speaker 1: of our show. It's still doesn't like it's so out
Speaker 1: of left field, like someone tried to murder Dan and
Speaker 1: then he won the mayoral election. Like it's all just
Speaker 1: so extra and there's no and Dan's still showing up
Speaker 1: at like random gym's. He's everywhere. And I like the
Speaker 1: new gym because I think one of the problems our
Speaker 1: show gets into is that it's the success curse. If
Speaker 1: every kid on the show is like the best at something,
Speaker 1: and everyone's successful at everything and everything shiny and winning,
Speaker 1: it loses its relatability with our audience. And so so
Speaker 1: taking the kids out of the fancy gym and putting
Speaker 1: them in a gym that actually looks more like some
Speaker 1: of the schools. You know that I grew up around
Speaker 1: the schools I grew up around. We're all built like
Speaker 1: in the forties, fifties, sixties, seventies. You know, there was
Speaker 1: nothing that was shiny and happy. Um. And so remember
Speaker 1: that Jim that was out where was that that was
Speaker 1: out of something? For the reason that we got kicked
Speaker 1: to that gym is that it was actually basketball season
Speaker 1: for the real high school, and like we just couldn't
Speaker 1: film there anymore. We got to find an alternate place.
Speaker 1: For years, they said they were just going to build
Speaker 1: a court on the stage, right. I don't know why
Speaker 1: they didn't because because they kept threatening to cancel us.
Speaker 1: That's why. I mean, it's great. It brought in revenue
Speaker 1: for the city, um, and for the schools. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: so that's always a good thing. Yea. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think we needed to we need
Speaker 1: to bring it back down to earth a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was it was becoming a lot dynasty. We had
Speaker 1: to get into Whitey's crap hole. Oh god, what did
Speaker 1: he say, scrawl out of my crap hole? What did
Speaker 1: lion get out of my crap hole? Danny and I
Speaker 1: was like, did anybody think about what it sounded like
Speaker 1: when they put it on a page? Berry committed man
Speaker 1: Berry committed and you could see how amused he was
Speaker 1: by it, a little twinkle in his eye. Oh my god. Well, guys,
Speaker 1: we have we have managed to fill up thirty five
Speaker 1: minutes of time miraculously. But we have we have something
Speaker 1: exciting because you guys will remember, sir, for our listeners,
Speaker 1: we did a contest and we invited you all to
Speaker 1: listen back to Old Drama Queen's episodes and answer questions
Speaker 1: that we asked you that you could only the answer
Speaker 1: from listening to our episodes, not from anything online. And
Speaker 1: so we uh found a winner. And here's what she's won.
Speaker 1: She gets a zoom with the Drama Queens with all
Speaker 1: of us hello, and we're gonna talk with her in
Speaker 1: a second. She gets a trip to Wilmington, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: which includes round trip airfare domestically for the winner and
Speaker 1: one guest, a tonight hotel stay at a five dllar
Speaker 1: Visa gift card, and we're probably going to throw in
Speaker 1: a couple of our favorite places to let her know,
Speaker 1: like a little list of all of our favorite places
Speaker 1: to go to. So can we please bring her in?
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to welcome Amanda Dorch. Hey, Amanda, are
Speaker 1: you there. Hello. Hi, You're an honorary drama queen. All. Hello. Hello.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to play it so cool
Speaker 1: and then I'll freak out. We never played cool. Where
Speaker 1: are you from, Amanda? Hi, I'm from Detraite, Michigan. That's
Speaker 1: my only way from home. Amanda. I'm like, we're so
Speaker 1: honored that you spent the time to listen to our
Speaker 1: show and take the notes and find all these I'm
Speaker 1: just so grateful. Thank you. Oh my goodness, thank you' all.
Speaker 1: It was so funny. When the Scavenger Hunt was dropped.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, these are great questions. It's
Speaker 1: hard on behalf of the fandom, y'all de greet, but
Speaker 1: it was. It was awesome. So thank you all just
Speaker 1: for the opportunity. I appreciate it. Yeah. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been to Wilmington's before? Never? And it's so funny because
Speaker 1: my sister and I we have been talking about it.
Speaker 1: You're like, we have to get down there. She she's
Speaker 1: my who I watched with and we listened together, and
Speaker 1: so it was y'all announced the podcast or announced the
Speaker 1: Scavenger Hunt the day before her eighteenth birthday, and so
Speaker 1: we were like if it's miss if he is meant
Speaker 1: to be, so she's gonna go this swome sweet. So wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what are you the most excited to see? Because it's
Speaker 1: going to be your first time? So do you have
Speaker 1: a list of where you all want to go? So yes,
Speaker 1: we have. We have of course all the landmark places
Speaker 1: and then like we were avid listeners to the podcast
Speaker 1: and so we've been like taking notes on where you
Speaker 1: all say, and like we're really excited to eat of course,
Speaker 1: and so so we're, um, yeah, we we have a
Speaker 1: little list, but of course you want all of y'all's
Speaker 1: recommendations all over again. And we definitely said we wanted
Speaker 1: to go to resays. We definitely said that we wanted
Speaker 1: to go, um just all the trademarks, all the houses
Speaker 1: we were talking about, all the little trinkets that we're
Speaker 1: going to pick up where the people. So we're like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll find some cute stuff, Sody, Okay, So what are
Speaker 1: our top recommendations we're gonna send you. We're gonna set
Speaker 1: you up please, yes, because we can this a lot.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, I'm going to I've got forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: What do I do? We all know my first two.
Speaker 1: You have to go to get tacos at Tower seven
Speaker 1: at Beach. It's just so good and it's also local.
Speaker 1: That is so such a standard staple Wilmington's thing to do. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's such a good vibe and it's fun because
Speaker 1: whether you go for lunch or dinner, you can go
Speaker 1: for a walk on the beach. There's like, there's so
Speaker 1: many just cute things to see out at Writsville. And
Speaker 1: then you've got to go when you do the downtown,
Speaker 1: like the waterfront where Nathan gives Hayley her charm bracelet,
Speaker 1: and where are you know all of our little stores
Speaker 1: where our record shop was. You have to go to
Speaker 1: kill Ones for ice cream. My personal favorite is a
Speaker 1: Chilcot chip cookie. Though I don't know what you're jam is,
Speaker 1: but if you get it, get it in a waffle cone,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. I love the Catalan. I always used to
Speaker 1: go there and just because you could always get a
Speaker 1: great glass of wine and you just sit on the
Speaker 1: on the water. Um. So it depends on what time
Speaker 1: of when are you going. Do you know still open
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know, is it I don't know,
Speaker 1: open the River Walk is open for sure, Okay, So
Speaker 1: we're still talking about it. We haven't decided on the date.
Speaker 1: So we've been working with your team and they've been amazing.
Speaker 1: Just they are. I was like, oh my gosh, yeah
Speaker 1: because they saw my original freak out, so shout out
Speaker 1: to them. And so, um, we were talking about maybe going.
Speaker 1: So my little sister, she is starting college, so I'm
Speaker 1: trying to work around her schedule too, so this would
Speaker 1: be the pr freshman year, so we're thinking either Labor
Speaker 1: day or right before she leaves. She's in like two
Speaker 1: three weeks. Okay, great labor days, great weather, it'll probably
Speaker 1: good still on the water, and it'll be, my god,
Speaker 1: than a labor days before hurricane season, which we learned
Speaker 1: the hard way filming. Yeah, okay, but Joy's to Joy's point,
Speaker 1: like glasses of wine on the Riverwalk are kind of yeah.
Speaker 1: So and then and then Brasserie do so that's still open.
Speaker 1: I hope just go get their steak freights and uh
Speaker 1: and then mac and Cheese comes in that little tin
Speaker 1: that they bake until crispy on the top. You can't
Speaker 1: touch it. Yeah, antique shopping. You haven't mentioned it before, Okay,
Speaker 1: Jess Jess James Vintage has always has great stuff. She
Speaker 1: curates herself and it's really interesting things. And Castle Street
Speaker 1: has quite a few anti Castle. Um. I want to
Speaker 1: say it's like below eighth, so like everything kind of
Speaker 1: below eighth on Castle Street is an antique emporeum and
Speaker 1: there there's just little tiny shops all over the place.
Speaker 1: Some of them you walk in and you think it's
Speaker 1: a little shop and then it goes on forever. But
Speaker 1: then there's also the Ivy Cottage going to take Cottage. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in there. Yeah. Joy.
Speaker 1: We did some damage in there. We did our houses
Speaker 1: were just like out of control. I bought a carousel horse.
Speaker 1: What do you want from me? Dollars? How could I not?
Speaker 1: It was a steel Yeah? Yeah, Amanda, So can you
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your history with One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill and which is I would love to know
Speaker 1: when you started watching and um yeah, just tell me more, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: So um, I was a part of the Netflix generation
Speaker 1: of um One Tree Hill fandom. Ye. I watched for
Speaker 1: the first time my sophomore year of college, so in
Speaker 1: and became obsessed immediately. So it was um. We quickly
Speaker 1: became like a comfort show, and so I rewatched it
Speaker 1: right after graduation when I moved to Dallas for my
Speaker 1: first big girl job. It was my go to show
Speaker 1: and then the same thing that just when everything happened.
Speaker 1: And then it's also been a really big bridge for
Speaker 1: my sister and I. So he is eight years younger
Speaker 1: than me, and it was the first show where you
Speaker 1: we ever got to like talk about it, like she
Speaker 1: had very strong oppea. You know, when you're eight years apart,
Speaker 1: I think when you're growing up, it feels like I
Speaker 1: gotta be your mom, but really in reality that's not
Speaker 1: true at all, but it's like, um, you have to
Speaker 1: be the grown up. Yeah. Yeah, that was our relationship
Speaker 1: until we started talking about the show. And it was
Speaker 1: right at a peak time where like middle school and
Speaker 1: right before she started high school, and so she's talking
Speaker 1: about boys and like just messy things that are happening.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like our bridge. And then when
Speaker 1: Drama Queens came out, we both were like, we have this,
Speaker 1: Like this is that we have good and so that's
Speaker 1: that's what we've been doing. And it's so funny because
Speaker 1: she's like for both of us listening to y'all is
Speaker 1: like being also at the big kids tables always also
Speaker 1: like y'all are like our big sisters too. Oh did
Speaker 1: you hear that a piece of advice? You should probably
Speaker 1: use that And I'm like, so we kind of go
Speaker 1: back and forth on that, but yes, so it's it's
Speaker 1: just kind of come full circle and we've had really
Speaker 1: good conversations. I think what y'all are doing is so
Speaker 1: amazing and how you're doing it because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of different podcasts and things out there, but I
Speaker 1: think you are very honest and it's transparent because we've
Speaker 1: had conversations even uh, I think you can. You can.
Speaker 1: You'll talk a lot about duality and how two things
Speaker 1: can meet. True you can love something and still critique it,
Speaker 1: because we had that same conversation about One Tree Hills, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we love this show, right, but I watched from a
Speaker 1: different lens and what it was, girl, I understand what
Speaker 1: you do. It's like, oh my god, at least they
Speaker 1: think the same thing that I did. And even like
Speaker 1: I think we you can love the show and still
Speaker 1: critique it in the way of like, is it okay
Speaker 1: to love a show that you don't necessarily see yourself representative.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about that. Y'all have talked about
Speaker 1: that too. I'm saying where it's like, I think diversity
Speaker 1: and inclusion was different. You can probably count on your
Speaker 1: fingers how many Black women are presented in Once You Heal,
Speaker 1: especially with lines. But I still love this show, and
Speaker 1: is that okay? Like you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: we've we've had conversations like that, and so with y'all
Speaker 1: critiquing it and seeing it, and that gave me permission
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I still love this show and
Speaker 1: I can still say how I feel but still be
Speaker 1: a part of a fandom. You know, human, our hearts
Speaker 1: all believe for a lot of the same stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: I know, no matter what background do you come from,
Speaker 1: the story resonates the stories of teenage love and can
Speaker 1: fusion about you know, your family and struggling through friendships.
Speaker 1: These are all very real, raw things for anyone um
Speaker 1: in our in our age bracket, I mean, for anyone
Speaker 1: in high school like going through that stuff. I'm just
Speaker 1: so your sister's strong opinions are I need to get okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because because we're you know, and so you're talking about
Speaker 1: Lens I'm dying to know what an eighteen year old
Speaker 1: critique of the show is, Like, this is exciting for me. Okay,
Speaker 1: so her, you can kill me. So her, the biggest
Speaker 1: thing has always been we want to Haley to stay
Speaker 1: on tour. A little longer realized she has to go.
Speaker 1: She has to follow her dreams where we're talking about,
Speaker 1: and she was like, yes, of course, Like their conversation
Speaker 1: should have been different and she should have taught him
Speaker 1: not come. But she's an She's going be an icon. Like,
Speaker 1: So that was our conversation because and I think maybe
Speaker 1: it's just because we are we pride ourselves and like
Speaker 1: I just want to go after it, like you know,
Speaker 1: like that's how we are. That was how we were
Speaker 1: seeing and she's so talented. That was probably our strongest takeaway.
Speaker 1: And um so yeah, so that those are her big, big,
Speaker 1: huge opinion. She's always been team the Sisterhood, so I think, oh,
Speaker 1: is it sister Yes. So it's like in season five,
Speaker 1: she just like we needed to see we needed to
Speaker 1: see Brooke and um in Peyton come when Nanny Carey
Speaker 1: was tripping, Like why didn't they they would have been there?
Speaker 1: So yeah, right, we've already proven we can fight like
Speaker 1: we have so many times throughout after her Davis will
Speaker 1: slap somebody she should have slapped Nanny Carey. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so we because we to binge it all. I couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine if I was waiting week to week, I would
Speaker 1: have been freaking out. So it's a different time, babe.
Speaker 1: You had to like wait and then we'd have our
Speaker 1: mid season breaks and you'd have to wait like three months,
Speaker 1: like it was crazy. That's what makes the bad episode
Speaker 1: so much worse is that you know people Saturay and
Speaker 1: the whole week and then they like sat up in
Speaker 1: front of their TV with their popcorn or their dinner
Speaker 1: and it gets on click, and then they had to
Speaker 1: suffer through an hour of terrible writing if it was
Speaker 1: a bad episode. Yes, And even when you were talking
Speaker 1: about like those cliffhangers, I think I think it. I
Speaker 1: don't remember who it was when y'all called Diana Iceberg
Speaker 1: like from Tana you know? Yes? So do you have
Speaker 1: a favorite episode of Drama Queens or of One Tree? Hi? Okay, um,
Speaker 1: my favorite episode? So I don't know. People ask us
Speaker 1: that question all the time, and I'm like, is just
Speaker 1: how do you just pick so I am. I'm actually
Speaker 1: a I'm a huge fan of season three and six.
Speaker 1: Those are my favorite. Three is great. Three is so good,
Speaker 1: except for episode we watched. Oh my god, did you
Speaker 1: watch episode eleven yet because it's grim? Yeah I did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know, Amanda, we just watched it and we were like,
Speaker 1: what how is twelve better? So just get to thirteen
Speaker 1: hanging there and we you we love it at thirteen great, good, perfect,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying about. That's that's where everything is
Speaker 1: safe again. That's going to be the title of that episode,
Speaker 1: by the way. That's what we'll do where everything everything
Speaker 1: is safe. Everything say said, so please you'll you'll be
Speaker 1: We'll be good. We'll get back the ball. The ball
Speaker 1: gets rolling again. And that's what That's what I love
Speaker 1: about yours podcast, though, is like you can say it
Speaker 1: and I know, I know. It just looks different all
Speaker 1: the time. So kudos to you again. You'll handle things.
Speaker 1: Is such a good grace because I wanted to get
Speaker 1: in come. It's like, wait a minute, hanging they have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to say if they don't like it, it's okay, guys,
Speaker 1: but it is always combative with something better coming down.
Speaker 1: The line, so yeah, just hanging there, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: If you had to do a tour of Wilmington's with
Speaker 1: one character from the show, who would you know? And
Speaker 1: you're being here used to think, we're not going to
Speaker 1: put you on the spot, none of us. Someone other
Speaker 1: than us there give you. If you had to go
Speaker 1: out with someone other than the drama queens, who would
Speaker 1: you cruise around? In the comment like is that also?
Speaker 1: In the comment? Okay, yes, let this for me. I
Speaker 1: want to steal that one so hard. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I'm torn between Lee Norris or Oh a day
Speaker 1: with more more Rack Kelly would be iconic, though Okay
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't thick Well, can I pick those two?
Speaker 1: I can both? In the comment start your day with
Speaker 1: Moira Kelly, have a fabulous brunch walk and then you
Speaker 1: hit those bars with Lee Norris. You have never lived
Speaker 1: until you have danced with Leonora's. It's really true. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. He got on the dance floor
Speaker 1: at my wedding and it was his wedding. People were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Leonor's. I was like, I know, everyone
Speaker 1: just put your bodies around his body. It was It
Speaker 1: was iconic. Please tell me, y'all did the Yang Twins?
Speaker 1: Please did? Okay? So here's what I need you to
Speaker 1: know is Leon Norris and I actually have two songs
Speaker 1: and three six nine is our first song. But Lee's
Speaker 1: favorite song in the world is I Want to Dance
Speaker 1: with Somebody by Whitney. He's telling and I was so
Speaker 1: excited when that song came on and he looked at
Speaker 1: me and I just went, I did this for you,
Speaker 1: and we ran towards each other on the dance floor.
Speaker 1: And what almost nobody knows is that since the iPhone
Speaker 1: came out when we were I don't know, twenty three
Speaker 1: or twenty four, so this is like over fifteen years now. Um,
Speaker 1: any time either Lee or I is in a place
Speaker 1: where that song comes on, we send each other a
Speaker 1: video of one of us singing it. So like in
Speaker 1: our in our text thread, we just have like years
Speaker 1: of being like, nobody can sing to Winney Houston. By
Speaker 1: the way, so these videos are horrible and they can
Speaker 1: never see the light of day. But we shouldn't hile those, Sophia,
Speaker 1: this sounds truly. I will. I will protect our secrets
Speaker 1: to the day I die. But um, I will say
Speaker 1: that as we're telling the story. I must concur with Hillary.
Speaker 1: You have to enture tour with Lee Norris. It's just
Speaker 1: it's a fact. If you can hit a karaoke spot
Speaker 1: in Felming, like your late night options are yep, karaoke
Speaker 1: spot right either at Level five or Yosaki or there's
Speaker 1: some other places that are doing it now, Level five five.
Speaker 1: If they have a comedy show, go see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go see a play at Balien Hall too, by the way, gorgeous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might have a good show on now. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the plan, but I also would be negligent
Speaker 1: if I did not tell you to go on a
Speaker 1: ghost tour because listen, I spoke to my old neighbor,
Speaker 1: uh George. His name was George, and we spoke recently
Speaker 1: on the phone and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what's going on? How's the neighborhood? And he's like, we
Speaker 1: got these tours coming by your house all the time.
Speaker 1: Because I lived in a haunted house downtown and the tours.
Speaker 1: I think my house might be on the ghost tour now,
Speaker 1: which should be talked enough about. You have the ghost
Speaker 1: tour is a weird way to spend the night. And
Speaker 1: if you're taking your eighteen year old sister and you
Speaker 1: can't take her into bars. That's like a great option
Speaker 1: that you guys can just get a great lay of
Speaker 1: the land in Wilmington and you can see all of
Speaker 1: these like old houses close up, all the like monuments
Speaker 1: close up. They'll show you where some of the other
Speaker 1: cool stuff that filmed in town is. There's the Carolina
Speaker 1: Apartments where they film Blue Velvet Um. There's the on
Speaker 1: the corner from where I lived is where Outcast filmed
Speaker 1: Idle while and I just got to sit across the
Speaker 1: street while Big Boy and I drink and across the
Speaker 1: street and I was ard um. So yeah, go on
Speaker 1: these walking doors. They're very cool. Make sure you ask
Speaker 1: them to take you by the old haunted dentist's house.
Speaker 1: That sounds it's truly like it's the darkest, wildest story.
Speaker 1: But whoever's leading the ghost tour will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: she knows what's up that that's the way to get
Speaker 1: some points. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1: Go play ski ball in Blue Post. You have to post.
Speaker 1: Oh if you go to Blue Post, will you please
Speaker 1: let us know if our little placards from completing the
Speaker 1: beer list around the When you're done with all this,
Speaker 1: we want to we want to see photos. Yes, we
Speaker 1: need to take over our Instagram while you're there. We
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Hillary should cry, Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna create content that is going to be
Speaker 1: our Instagram during take over drama quis gonna be exciting
Speaker 1: if it's if it's not too much pressure. We want
Speaker 1: you to enjoy your trip, so you know, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't have to, like work, but you could. You
Speaker 1: could just take us along. Yeah, we want to see
Speaker 1: what you're seeing and make sure you go and visit
Speaker 1: our friend Jesse at Edge of Urge. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she made a lot of our clothes back then, and
Speaker 1: yeah it still does a lot of cool stuff from
Speaker 1: Haley's bra the first time Haley and Nathan uh spend then, okay,
Speaker 1: joy you with is the name of the hall so
Speaker 1: we can go see plays? What did you say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: T h A l I A Nien Hall. It's okay.
Speaker 1: Diligent notes here. Yeah, you're gonna have to ride drama.
Speaker 1: Queen's guide to will Me to North Carolina's right, So listen,
Speaker 1: do you have any questions for us before we you know,
Speaker 1: let you go on your adventure. But I'm sorry, you
Speaker 1: know I do have a couple yes, hold on, sorry
Speaker 1: the notes at wait, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 1: I love how organized you are. I know we'll not
Speaker 1: saying the mess when bra asked, way more time doing
Speaker 1: this than working today, So that's but I actually work
Speaker 1: for Microsoft currently in the trade on one of their
Speaker 1: account managers, so I work with their health and life sciences,
Speaker 1: different with hospitals and stuff. You're grown up, You're organized, amazing. No,
Speaker 1: it's all written. No, but I think that perfectly like
Speaker 1: kind of goes into our My first question, I guess.
Speaker 1: So I'm turning six, and I would what I always
Speaker 1: say about the podcast is nobody really gives you permission
Speaker 1: anymore to be messy. I think with our our generation,
Speaker 1: because we have social media and we have all of
Speaker 1: these things, we um, we're told to be a lot
Speaker 1: more careful, I guess than other generations before us, just
Speaker 1: because it can be documented and anybody can see it
Speaker 1: and can follow you forever. And so I guess one
Speaker 1: of the things that I love about once you're healing,
Speaker 1: one of the things I always see is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaways is the talks about forgiveness and the
Speaker 1: art of forgiveness and how that's kind of we're woven
Speaker 1: into right now. You're nager and you're messy, and you're
Speaker 1: in your early twenties and you're messy. Have y'all noticed
Speaker 1: any similar things so far? Of like that forgiveness that
Speaker 1: heroes journey, that rekindling of different pieces like what has
Speaker 1: been your biggest being takeaway just up into the season
Speaker 1: three to show around, oh the show of what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Mm hmmm. It is a theme that runs through.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nathan and Haley have to find forgiveness for
Speaker 1: each other and and being and hurting each other and
Speaker 1: being messy. But that's really what forgiveness is for. It's
Speaker 1: not because, I mean, in my opinion, it's not for
Speaker 1: like because you're expected to be perfect. It's because you
Speaker 1: can't be perfect, and you are going to hurt someone
Speaker 1: in the process of living your life and just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out all of the important foundational questions of
Speaker 1: life that we all as humans inevitably ask ourselves and
Speaker 1: each other. You're going to hurt yourself and hurt each other,
Speaker 1: and so that's what forgiveness is for and so it's
Speaker 1: good to put it into practice. Um. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I see that a lot with Nathan and Haley,
Speaker 1: which is a great Their marriage is a great example
Speaker 1: of that because in marriage you you are messy and
Speaker 1: you are going to hurt each other, and so you
Speaker 1: have to be able to learn how to have that
Speaker 1: forgiveness in that context. So that's what I mean. I
Speaker 1: guess that's been mine. But also because I was close
Speaker 1: to that storyline, you know, being in it, and all
Speaker 1: I shoulder that bear, I think, Um, for me watching
Speaker 1: the show back, the forgiveness is the forgiveness of oneself.
Speaker 1: You know, Payton beats herself up about everything, and I
Speaker 1: personally beat myself up about everything. And this idea that well,
Speaker 1: when I'm older, I won't do that anymore. When I'm older,
Speaker 1: I won't make mistakes anymore. When I'm older, I'll know better.
Speaker 1: He's bush. It's total bulls because what we've figured out
Speaker 1: is that in our brains, we're all seventeen years old forever.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're You're seventeen in your brain forever.
Speaker 1: So the quicker you can learn to forgive the kid
Speaker 1: in you, the young adult and you the parent in you.
Speaker 1: That's the phase we're in right now, the partner in you. Um,
Speaker 1: you will be better at all of those things because
Speaker 1: you won't be doing that internal you know, turmoil, the
Speaker 1: internal forgiveness. Just be nice to the little kid in you.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You're always talking to the little kid. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. I think watching this so far,
Speaker 1: one of the things that I find really interesting about
Speaker 1: Brooks journey is similarly to what you're saying, Hilary. She
Speaker 1: has to learn to be nicer to herself. She to
Speaker 1: learn to believe in herself and realize that she's worthy,
Speaker 1: to be able to forgive people, and to be able
Speaker 1: to set healthy boundaries for herself, because when she doesn't
Speaker 1: carry herself in worth, people treat her poorly. And the
Speaker 1: more she steps into her own power, the more she's
Speaker 1: able to be vulnerable, to admit how she feels, and
Speaker 1: to grow. And I think that that was certainly my
Speaker 1: journey through my twenties. I mean, it's still a journey now.
Speaker 1: But then I was so nervous to make a mistake
Speaker 1: that I was too scared to ever ask for help,
Speaker 1: that I just walked around feeling so terrified all the
Speaker 1: time and being sure that I was the screw up.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I was like, hold on, all
Speaker 1: these people who I love that are awesome tell me
Speaker 1: I'm awesome, and I know I'm telling the truth that
Speaker 1: they're awesome, and I don't think they're liars, which must
Speaker 1: mean when they say I'm awesome, I am awesome. You're awesome,
Speaker 1: And like, it took me a while to be like,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm not perfect, but like I'm a pretty
Speaker 1: nice person, and life got easier after that. So I
Speaker 1: do really wish, you know, like you said, Amanda, I
Speaker 1: wish that people would teach us to be a little
Speaker 1: gentler with ourselves and to to feel okay admitting how
Speaker 1: we feel or what we're nervous about or what we
Speaker 1: might need help with. Because the more we can be
Speaker 1: an honest and supportive community, the better our lives are.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's why we do this show. We're
Speaker 1: just like, we just want to be together all the time.
Speaker 1: How do we do that? I love it? You guys,
Speaker 1: are you know what? That's so true that forgiving of
Speaker 1: yourself that's one of the hardest things to do and
Speaker 1: it's extra hard to when you you are carrying. It's
Speaker 1: hard to forgive yourself if you don't know how to
Speaker 1: forgive other people to which is I think kind of
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Hell, that's like you're so hard on
Speaker 1: yourself and Peyton beats herself up. And but then we
Speaker 1: carry that in that expectation of well, if if I
Speaker 1: can handle A, B and C, then other people should
Speaker 1: be able to too, And then it's harder to forgive
Speaker 1: other people. I mean, I just you know, speaking of
Speaker 1: the topic of forgiveness, I just saw play Um a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, based on the Hiding Place. Did
Speaker 1: you guys ever read that story about Carryton Boom. She
Speaker 1: was a Polish girl in Um the nineties and her
Speaker 1: family was hiding Jews in their home and uh, one
Speaker 1: of the soldiers her father was a watchmaker, and one
Speaker 1: of the soldiers came to work before he was sorry,
Speaker 1: this is kind of backwards. Before he was a soldier,
Speaker 1: he was a german Man and her father was very like,
Speaker 1: I don't discriminate against against anyone. Do German, whoever you are.
Speaker 1: If you want to work for me, you can work
Speaker 1: for me. So this Jewish sorry, this German man comes
Speaker 1: in works for them as an apprentice. He's very um,
Speaker 1: unlikable the whole time, Leaves, becomes a Nazi soldier, gives
Speaker 1: their family away. They all go off to concentration camps.
Speaker 1: And her sister, who she's very very very close with
Speaker 1: and is like the joy in the light. And Corey
Speaker 1: is the one who's like, I hate there's maball and
Speaker 1: her sister is the one who's just like, it's okay,
Speaker 1: just God wants us to love everyone. Let's just share
Speaker 1: love and be love and forgive. And you know, they
Speaker 1: don't know, and um, sorry, they're telling me to speed it,
Speaker 1: speed it up. I'm speeding. I'm sorry. But it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's this amazing, mind blowing story because in the end,
Speaker 1: it's all it's all over. The war is over, um,
Speaker 1: and they're all just living in the aftermath and this
Speaker 1: and Corey's sister has died in the concentration camp and
Speaker 1: so she's carrying all this anger. And as she uh
Speaker 1: is walking through a train station one day, she runs
Speaker 1: into this former soldier who sent her to the camp
Speaker 1: and who was the cause the story, and he was
Speaker 1: the cause of her sister. Your's death, and he stops
Speaker 1: her and he says, I know, I know what I did.
Speaker 1: I I'm so sorry. I've had an awakening in life.
Speaker 1: And um, I don't know any other way to apologize
Speaker 1: except to say that I'm so sorry and can you
Speaker 1: ever forgive me? And there's this beautiful moment she just
Speaker 1: stands at him and stares at him, and finally um
Speaker 1: embraces him, and that's it. And then just it's like
Speaker 1: that's it. We're walking away and we're done, and this
Speaker 1: moment like and there's a quote in the play that's
Speaker 1: forgiveness is scandalous. It's not something that's easily given. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's so meaningful, because it's not something that
Speaker 1: you can just right off and be like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: forgive you, it's easy. It's it's outrageous, it's scandalous. Could you?
Speaker 1: But you know, like in this recognition that we're all human,
Speaker 1: we're all susceptible of all different kinds of things, we're
Speaker 1: all capable of all kinds of things put in the
Speaker 1: right scenario or the wrong scenario, the right conditioning or
Speaker 1: the wrong conditioning, and so um, anyway that that level
Speaker 1: of forgiveness and humanity is a theme that I love,
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that you brought up. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to go so far off the rail thinking
Speaker 1: about like forgiving yourself for the things that you do,
Speaker 1: and like when we forgive other people, how much more
Speaker 1: that opens up for us to be able to forgive ourselves.
Speaker 1: So alright, so you can kiss your best friend's boyfriend
Speaker 1: twice and then she can be the best I can
Speaker 1: always count out. Remember a segue, Hillary, thank you bess.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be a awful person, it's got
Speaker 1: to come full circle and you've got to be There
Speaker 1: is no there is no better breaker for levity than
Speaker 1: than our sister Hillary. Truly, it's like it's such about
Speaker 1: I'm amazed by you. Oh my gosh. Sorry, man, do
Speaker 1: you have any other questions? I'm sorry, I am no.
Speaker 1: That's actually perfect. I know. I think y'all have talked
Speaker 1: about this before because it all kind of like leaves
Speaker 1: together in this really weird way. But I think y'all
Speaker 1: drama Queens has been such a big part of Like
Speaker 1: another theme is like that rekindling within sisterhood and within
Speaker 1: friendships and things like that, and so to your to
Speaker 1: the points that all of you made and forgiving yourself
Speaker 1: and forgiving yourself your sister, and giving your significant other.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times you hear the stories
Speaker 1: of like, oh sticks stick by your man, Like a
Speaker 1: lot of people say things like that, but sometimes we
Speaker 1: throw our friendships away. So I know y'all have talked
Speaker 1: a lot about kind of how y'all swam that together.
Speaker 1: What kind of advice would you give for young women
Speaker 1: are like girls and women who are looking to reveald
Speaker 1: lost friendships or like they lost kind of that connection
Speaker 1: and similar to how you all did, Like we were
Speaker 1: away for a minute, but back stronger than ever. What
Speaker 1: did that first step look like? Yeah, honestly, you can't
Speaker 1: dictate who your friend will grow into. Okay, because let's
Speaker 1: say your friends from high school, you know, you meet
Speaker 1: when you're fifteen years old. You have no control over
Speaker 1: the person your friend is going to be, you know, um,
Speaker 1: And so it is loving the growth in your people
Speaker 1: is really important because we all started off You look
Speaker 1: at Sophia, Joy and I were all essentially the same person.
Speaker 1: We all grew up really really fast. We're all pretty
Speaker 1: a d D. You know, we're all like spinning plates
Speaker 1: and hyper in a very similar way. And so we
Speaker 1: all started off at the beginning of season one level
Speaker 1: playing field, and then because of all the variables that
Speaker 1: were thrown at us, we all kind of found different paths.
Speaker 1: Some of us hung out more with the crew, sung up,
Speaker 1: some of us isolated ourselves more, some of us hung
Speaker 1: out more with the cast, you know, and we picked
Speaker 1: different paths. And it's choosing to appreciate that in your friendships.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the differences, Appreciate the growth as opposed to being
Speaker 1: threatened by it or being like, no, we were supposed
Speaker 1: to be on this road together. You know you're not
Speaker 1: doing it right. Um. Appreciate those turns because eventually your
Speaker 1: paths will meet up again, and then you'll have great
Speaker 1: stories to tell each other and they'll be able to
Speaker 1: take you over onto their path, you know, which is exciting.
Speaker 1: It's been fun to like travel the roads that you
Speaker 1: guys talk because I took a very different road. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's also really important, you know that idea
Speaker 1: to to use your road metaphor. You can't assume how
Speaker 1: someone ends up on a road. It took us until
Speaker 1: we'd had some distance to say I was actually really scared,
Speaker 1: So like I'd go over there and then you know,
Speaker 1: two of us to go, wait, what you were like?
Speaker 1: I always thought you were so tough. You have to
Speaker 1: realize that feelings aren't facts, and that very often the
Speaker 1: stories that we tell ourselves aren't true. They're based on
Speaker 1: the limited information that we have. And the the advice
Speaker 1: that I would give to any group of friends is
Speaker 1: remember you're all on the same team, and if something
Speaker 1: gets weird like this is the moral of my marriage,
Speaker 1: this is the moral of my friendships. If something gets
Speaker 1: energetically weird, it's me and you against the problem. It
Speaker 1: is never me and you against each other. And that's
Speaker 1: something we all had to learn. We did not have
Speaker 1: adults modeling that for us. And it's part of the
Speaker 1: reason that it feels really important for us to talk
Speaker 1: to you all about all of our experiences and how
Speaker 1: we grew and what therapy worked, and what weird outward
Speaker 1: bound work like whatever we did. You know, get your
Speaker 1: girls on a zip line man problem that honestly, yes,
Speaker 1: But but truthfully, you know, you've got to be able
Speaker 1: to come in and say I feel this and be
Speaker 1: honest enough to say I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: really happening. I don't know if you're mad at me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm being left out. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know I did something to hurt you.
Speaker 1: But I feel weird. Will you tell me if I'm
Speaker 1: nuts or if I'm tapped into something? Is there something
Speaker 1: we need to talk about? And it could be any
Speaker 1: version of that, but I think it takes a courage
Speaker 1: to talk to your people and to just say, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like this is my stuff. I did that with Hillary
Speaker 1: last week. We were laughing about something and I said, dude,
Speaker 1: I still have twenty two year old me brain where
Speaker 1: sometimes my brain says like X, Y and Z to
Speaker 1: me and she was like, you're insane. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, but the kid and what you're but you
Speaker 1: have to be able to just do it together. Sorry. No,
Speaker 1: The key to what you're saying and to your question
Speaker 1: Amanda about the first steps is humility? Really is the
Speaker 1: is that's the first step. You have to be humble
Speaker 1: enough to be vulnerable and to ask and to say
Speaker 1: the thing. You have to be willing to just Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm no better than nobody else. I'm you know, Sorry
Speaker 1: that was a bad sentence, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She's no better than nobody else. I know better than
Speaker 1: nobody else to right, listen, I would love for our
Speaker 1: podcast to help female friendships if that is part of
Speaker 1: what we're building off. And you know, it's interesting, Like
Speaker 1: Amanda you said it, there's a lot of There is
Speaker 1: a lot of messaging right about like do the work
Speaker 1: in your relationship. But let me tell you what the
Speaker 1: longest relationships of any of our lives. Any of the
Speaker 1: women you're looking at right now are each other? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, like you all are the you are some
Speaker 1: of the longest relationships of my life. Yeah, it's why
Speaker 1: I got like all blubbery looking at my three girlfriends
Speaker 1: from middle school and the two and the two of
Speaker 1: you and Daniel at my wedding in the back of
Speaker 1: the bus. It was like we were and Sophia's wedding.
Speaker 1: It was like her childhood friends and then us and
Speaker 1: we were all the bad kids in the back of
Speaker 1: the bus and it was amazing. But truthfully, I was
Speaker 1: like weeping because I was like these these people, like
Speaker 1: this is where I learned how to love. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for what the future holds. But to be clear,
Speaker 1: I will never be married to my husband. For as
Speaker 1: long as I've been in a relationship with Hilary Burden
Speaker 1: and Bethany's your life, it's mathematically impossible. And so I
Speaker 1: think we need to have cultural messaging about like don't
Speaker 1: forget who who got you here? You know, like stick
Speaker 1: with your girls. Yeah right, because you're an honorary drama
Speaker 1: queen Amanda, would you like to spin a wheel and
Speaker 1: do most likely to? It would be an honor truly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, now you get to see behind
Speaker 1: the curtain. This is what its. You just have to
Speaker 1: make a sound effect right now? What most likely to go? Ahead?
Speaker 1: Not have one social media account? Oh so not beyond
Speaker 1: any social media. So we have to pick a character
Speaker 1: and also a real life cast member. Keith to Scott Amanda.
Speaker 1: Do you agree? I agree that? All right? I feel
Speaker 1: like real I feel like somebody's probably said, like, Keith,
Speaker 1: you've got to get the body shop on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know what that istok? Is he
Speaker 1: still using like the Nokia flip phone that we have
Speaker 1: in all the like a star attack. They'll totally be
Speaker 1: an episode. By the way, if we were doing this
Speaker 1: show now and Keith is still alive. It would be
Speaker 1: like a whole episode of him trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to do a TikTok. I love it. Wait, I mean,
Speaker 1: is there anyone from our show that's not on social
Speaker 1: media that you want us to pass her? Who's not on?
Speaker 1: Who's not? Are we all just attention? Worse? Is is Moira?
Speaker 1: I don't think it, guys, you nailed it, so she's not.
Speaker 1: Don't think she is no, which I think when we
Speaker 1: talked to her because there was no way to find her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't been keeping up, and now I think it's her.
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, Well, when you figure out when
Speaker 1: you're going to Wilmington, let us know because our entire
Speaker 1: drama Queen's family is going to be rabid for pictures
Speaker 1: and information and dates. You just go down there and
Speaker 1: you throw our names around. Every time you get a reservation,
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, Sophia, Joy and Hillary told me st
Speaker 1: here to give me your best table done? You got
Speaker 1: next week? Oh yeah, what episode are we doing next week? Guys?
Speaker 1: It's not good, but you might know more. It's episode
Speaker 1: three twelve. She said, you just got to make it. Oh,
Speaker 1: I have it. I have it. The next episode Season three,
Speaker 1: episode twelve is I've got dreams to remember, and perhaps
Speaker 1: it's an episode we will all want to forget that
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Maybe you love it,
Speaker 1: you love it, I don't know. After a level in
Speaker 1: I desperately hope to love it because today was painful,
Speaker 1: but you really turned it around for us. Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming joy, Thank you all so much. Truly, I
Speaker 1: love your podcast. I love y'all. I think you're incredible.
Speaker 1: So thanks. What's your sister's name? Thank you? Arianna, Okay, Arianna, Brianna,
Speaker 1: look at your kid. You guys have such a good trip,
Speaker 1: and we'll see all the rest of you next week.
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