1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to a special edition of the Jack Doyle Podcast. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: That's so weird for me to say, but I got 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: a special guest. That's why it's a special episode, joined 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: here by my former teammate, Philip Rivers. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Phil, thanks for joining us many. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Good to see it, John, Crazy has been five years. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: It flies by, It doesn't, as we were just kind 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: of catching up before. It's it's just amazing, you know, 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: how how fast time goes and that we're talking about 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: the kids and how you know, life goes on and changes. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: But uh, but this will be fun. Man. 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: We'll sit down and talk a little ball, which I 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: know I love to do, and especially do it with 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: someone like you who who you know, knows so much 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: about the great game of football. 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: So we'll kind of start off here. 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, you've I know you've been asked this a lot, 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: and I know you and the reason I'm asking is 19 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: because I love your answer that you've kind of given, 20 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the past three weeks or whatever. But 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, why come back and do this? Why why 22 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: come back and play? And for the Colts? 23 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was as unique of opportunity as 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: as you can you can imagine, as man it was 25 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: just one of those you can't make this up kind 26 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: of deals. And I did feel like I had a 27 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: little ball left to me when I, you know, decided 28 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: to step away after the twenty twenty season. But but 29 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: it was the right time and I and I look 30 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: back and I still believe that to be true. It 31 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: was just best for our family and everything that I 32 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: was getting ready to do with the high school. And 33 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 3: but so and then so i'd really I was at peace. 34 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: I mean it was it was done, you know. And 35 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: and this comes out of nowhere, and uh you know, 36 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: Shane and Chris are just like, hey, you think you 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 3: can do it? And I'm like, what are you serious? 38 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: Right now? 39 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: You know? 40 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: And uh so then you go through. I mean, it 41 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: happens fast, right, you don't have this time like well, 42 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: I'll let you know in a couple of weeks. It's like, no, 43 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: we got to go this week. Yeah, And uh so 44 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 3: it was a crazy thirty six forty eight hours really 45 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: just wrestling with the back and forth, you know, the 46 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: reasons to do it. Well, I love to play. I 47 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: still I still have that passion and fire to compete. 48 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: And of course my wife a Rinda, Well you're gonna 49 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: have that when you're sixty and you can't go back 50 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: and down. I'm like, no, I know, but I actually 51 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: still you know, I'm not in the same shape I 52 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: was in, but i'd actually been doing quite a bit 53 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: the last couple of months, so I've actually felt strong. 54 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: And then it's like, wow, it's that the Colts with 55 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the place I was at last, there's fourteen former teammateser's 56 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: still here, the coach that I love and respect, an 57 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: offense that I've ran. So those things all lined up. 58 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: But then for me, it was the doubt that kept 59 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: creeping in that you know, you always hear go with 60 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: your gut, you know, and you're praying about it, you're 61 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: talking about with your close friends and family and I'm good. 62 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: This doubt kept creeping in of can can I do it? 63 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: Like can I actually do it? And so that for 64 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: me was actually swaying me away for a period of time. 65 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: And then I got to where I was justifying that 66 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: doubt like, oh, no, wait a minute, that doubt's okay. 67 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: That's normal. Eighteen hundred days you haven't played football and 68 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: you're worrying, or can you do it? That's probably okay 69 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: to feel that way. But I think that's what I 70 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: had to get myself to to say that is okay 71 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: to feel that doubt. That's not a lack of belief 72 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: or it's just it's real and that's okay. And so 73 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: I actually went through And you'll appreciate this because I 74 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: know the respect you have for Frank Wright, who we 75 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: loved as a coach and a man, a wise man. Yes, 76 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: And I actually had a conversation with him a few 77 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: hours before. I said all right, I'm going for it, 78 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: and uh I went through it kind of like this 79 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: with him, and I said, so, Frank, you've heard everything 80 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: I wrestled with, so why do it? And and uh 81 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: it was it was it was a it was a 82 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: memory I always have because and he's His answer was 83 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: because you can't. And I was like, you're dang right, 84 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: I can't. You know, just kind of like it was 85 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: just confirmation here and from someone you trust, respect, you know, 86 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: among other people I talked to, and uh so I 87 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: called change and Chris. It was about noon on Tuesday. 88 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: I said, all right, let's go, let's go for it. 89 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, the only way to find out is going 90 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: to be do it. Go for it. Because I and 91 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: I and I and the other part Jack you know 92 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: how ramble is, UH is getting myself to where I'd 93 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: be okay with whatever the results are. It's like, all right, well, yeah, 94 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: you'll do it. If what if we make the playoffs, 95 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: you'll do it, or if you know it's like, well, 96 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what the results are gonna be. And 97 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: so I got to where I was like, I'll be 98 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: fine with whatever. If I pap a calf in the 99 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: first quarter of the Seattle game, it'll be a little 100 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: embarrassing and humiliate. And it's like, man, you did all 101 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: this to last for three days. But I was all 102 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: right with it. You know, you had to be all 103 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: right with that? And I was, uh. And and so 104 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: then I said, you's the only way to find out 105 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: is you you go for it. And because I knew 106 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: I would regret if I was just sitting at home 107 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: that next week with having had the opportunity, I would 108 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: have watched that cold Seahawks game going I should be there, 109 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: you know, and so and so I that was a lot. 110 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: All that put together kind of got me. Tiffany was 111 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: on board. She was most worried about health, which, as 112 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: you can imagine, I mean our family was excited, a 113 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: little nervous. My boys that are older now, Gunnery, you know, 114 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: I was a junior quarterback this past season, Pete's and 115 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: will be a ninth grader. They were a little more 116 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: looking at like maybe we would and they were like, one, 117 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: if you throw three picks in the first gun was 118 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: a little bit like, I mean, this is cool, dad, 119 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: can you yea? Whereas my older girls were a little 120 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: bit like we felt like we're going back in time, 121 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: my younger girls just like, well, this is cool. Do 122 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: it dad? For sure, we don't remember you playing, you know, 123 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: they don't even think about the magnitude. They're just like, heck, yeah, dad. 124 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: You know. 125 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: So all that came to where that we're sitting here 126 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: here we are three weeks out. It's been three weeks exactly, 127 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: and and uh and and I My only regret is 128 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: that we couldn't find a way to get it done. 129 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: But other than that, it's just nothing but gratitude and 130 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: thankful for having gotten this opportunity. 131 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so cool. 132 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and like you said, just just having the 133 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: fearless mentality to be like just to go for it right, 134 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: Like people don't do that anymore. I feel like, and 135 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you thought about this, you know, 136 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: as you were kind of making your decision, probably not, 137 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: And just the influences had on people all over, you know, 138 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: specifically speaking of those you know, fifteen eighteen year olds 139 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: that you're coaching down there in Fair Hope. And I 140 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: know that's not the reason you did it, but you know, 141 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: as a football coach, you know it's got to do 142 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: something for those guys. And you know what do you 143 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: think they kind of took from it seeing their coach 144 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: kind of go for it? Because you know, I'm a 145 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: pe teacher middle school right now, that's kind of what 146 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing. But I feel like kids these days, and 147 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, we sound like the old man, you know 148 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: talking about. 149 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: Kids these days, but it's like they have such a. 150 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Fear of failure, right and they have a fear of 151 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: being embarrassed from that failure. But for you to like 152 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: just go for it, I mean I'm showing, you know, 153 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: talking to my class about it, being like, hey, guys, 154 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: here's somebody that's like not scared to just go for it. Man, 155 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: did you think about the influence they would have on, 156 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, your football team and people all over. 157 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually didn't. I actually didn't. But I'm thankful that, 158 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: you know, perhaps that it has had a positive impact. 159 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: And I do agree with you because I think that's 160 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: what And that goes back to me saying I'll be 161 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: okay with the results, because I think as athletes, I mean, anything, right, 162 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: any endeavor, it's like, well, what if it doesn't go good? Well, 163 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: it might not, and then we'll deal with it. Then, yeah, 164 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: you know, you'll deal with it then and as time passes, 165 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: everything is okay at the end of the day, you know. 166 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: So I do think and I do think hopefully it 167 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: was impactful for you know, for our team back home. 168 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: They were obviously excited, right, I mean, I mean two 169 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: weeks prior, we're playing in a semi final game and 170 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, I'm on the sideline with a call sheet. 171 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Then they're like, wait a minute, he's out there on 172 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: the field in Seattle, you know, so it had to 173 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: be kind of crazy for them. And then yeah, I 174 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: think I hope it does have I hope the impact 175 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: that it does have is an a positive way of like, hey, guys, 176 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you're not trying to be reckless, right, 177 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: not trying to be a hero, which I wasn't. I 178 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: hope I can help, but it's like, golly, guys, what 179 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: the worst thing happened is you might lose And it's like, 180 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: well then we'll deal with it then, you know what 181 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: I mean, Like that doesn't define you. It's like sometimes 182 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: in our you know, in workplace or whatever you're doing, 183 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: sometimes you get so caught up in if I don't 184 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: get this business still done, then I'm a failure, Like 185 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: you're not. You're the same guy. Yeah, and it just 186 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: didn't get it done. So learn from it and carry on. 187 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, learn from it, right, Yeah, carry on. 188 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean that's just great. Like I said, I think 189 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: it's a great lesson for for not only young kids, 190 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: but for people out there. I mean a great lesson 191 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: for me. I mean it was influential to me and 192 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: seeing you come back and just go for it. But 193 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, talking about your high school team, 194 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Gunner playing quarterback and you guys are 195 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: running the same playbook down there was there a lot 196 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: of you know, getting up to speed coming in here, 197 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, learning the plays or was it all pretty 198 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: much you know what you got to did with Shane 199 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Beckhen you know, San. 200 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: Diego, l wherever. 201 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: It was a lot of carryover, a lot of similarities. 202 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: You'd probably fit, right you Yeah, I can go, oh yeah, I. 203 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: Could hear the calls. Yeah. 204 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of a lot of similarities. Not 205 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: the fullness of it, all right, because there's just more 206 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: to it at this level. But so that was fun 207 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: actually having taken the call sheet home the last few 208 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: weeks going gun or hey look at this, you know, 209 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: look at you know, Jill at you know, look at whatever, 210 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: all these all these calls and uh and him going dang, like, hey, 211 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: we ran that in the semi final game, you know. 212 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: And of course there's a degree of difficulty that there's 213 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: more complex. But uh so that that part too was 214 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: an added you know thing on the list of positives 215 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: because I was like, all right, I'm gonna know what, 216 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. I've called that for 217 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: these things before, so that certainly gave a level of comfort. 218 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, as you remember those Wednesday 219 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: and Thursday installs, you know, every week, and I was 220 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: just reminding Riley this week, you know, because you know, 221 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: Wednesday was like we're going and it's like, you know, hey, Riley, listen, 222 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 3: Wednesdays are stressful. I don't care if you're in a 223 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: year seventeen or if you're in year one. They just 224 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: feel a little bit like, man, you're you're getting all 225 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 3: the run game port and you're getting all the checksport 226 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: on you. You're getting all the alerts and it's like, 227 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: all right, go to walk through and let's do them all. 228 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: You know. So I was reminding him today it's like, hey, 229 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: that's normal, like you're doing. He did have a job, 230 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: but it's like that that's a normal feeling. And believe me, 231 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: I had it, and I dang sure had it three 232 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: weeks ago because you're right in back in it and 233 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: you're right back in the huddle and it's like, man, 234 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: we're going you know. And I I tell Tim, I 235 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I don't ever have to study this 236 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: hard in a while. And then you always prepared hard. 237 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: But it was just like a little bit of man, 238 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: I was studying our stuff more than the opponent, because 239 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: like I got to be able to function right and 240 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: uh but yeah, no, the offense familiarity has been fun 241 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: and even like some are you know, but the guys 242 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: I coached Gunners teammates, right, they they're like, this is cool, 243 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: Like we see some of the same concepts that they've 244 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: been running and I've shown them clips of that twenty 245 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: twenty year and stuff. So it's it was it was 246 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: cool for them and added coolness for them. 247 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean how cool? I mean, like you said, 248 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: it's the same stuff. So, you know, the Monday night, 249 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: we could definitely we could hear a lot of the 250 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: checks and as you know, okay, here comes Tampa. You know, 251 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I know it's coming right and all this stuff. So 252 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: did did Gunner, you know, get into you about any 253 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: misreads or anything like that? Hey, Dad, you know there's 254 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be in the flat here. You know that 255 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: your first read. 256 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: The uh you know, we had the we had the 257 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: high seven and the Low seven, you know, the clippers 258 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: and uh and Gunners like Dad, I think you had. 259 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: The hot one. 260 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 3: Like I hear you, Gunner, Yeah, I hear you. I 261 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: don't think you fell off soon enough. Yeah, but yeah, 262 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: so that was that was and that's kind of how 263 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: we've been watching the games the last four or five years, 264 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, even some Philly stuff, right because next year, 265 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: all the same things. So we've We've been watching these 266 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: games just as a fan and going, oh shoot, and 267 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: you said, there's frind dag, you know, and so then 268 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, I'm back here running it. 269 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: So it was it's been that that's been an added 270 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: piece of fun, you know to the whole puzzle. Oh 271 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: that's fun. I mean it was fun for me to watch. 272 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: And so you know, take me to Seattle, right, So 273 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, you go through the crazy first week or whatever, 274 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: and I kind of want you to compare you know, 275 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: nerves whatever, anxious to go play or whatever it was. 276 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: Whatever. 277 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: You know, you're kind of feeling in your belly and 278 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: wanting to perform and all that fun stuff. So compare 279 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, coming back after you know, four and a 280 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: half years off to going to start a game against Seattle, right, 281 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: and compare that to your first NFL start. You know, 282 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: you can talk about your first ANFL star. I love 283 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: hearing about yeah career. Yeah, So my first INFL start 284 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: was at Oakland. Uh and uh it was Monday night, 285 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: Monday and field. 286 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Monday night football. The dirt was was there 287 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: and I threw eleven passes. I was eight for eleven 288 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: for like one hundred yards and a touchdown to Gates, 289 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: And I remember throwing the touchdown to Gates and that 290 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 3: was my first one to him of what would have 291 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: been what became crazy there. Yeah, but and I was excited, right, 292 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 3: and this is my first start. We're beating Oakland, but 293 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: we only thrown eleven past this. So I went at 294 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: the gates like, yeah, this is the first of many, 295 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: and gagers like, man, get off, get out of here, 296 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: you know, like, if this is the offense, we're going 297 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: to run down the two. This young guy who different 298 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: kind of nerves similar in some ways because of the 299 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: time off. But yet once I got out there and 300 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: crazy enough too. With that, me and you were talking 301 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: off camera about the COVID year. It had been like 302 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: twenty one hundred days since I'd been in a packed house, 303 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: and it was at Kansas City, my last game as 304 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 3: a Charger, right on the road of being a full house. 305 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: So the noise and all that, I was like, dang, 306 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: like this is it's real again. But it felt like, 307 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I remember this feeling. I remember this feeling. 308 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: So I remember the first drive. I was nervous, maybe 309 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: the first two drives, but I threw an outbreaking route 310 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: to Tyler and got hit, missed him, just barely missed him, 311 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: but got hit. And I came off with my brother 312 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: and UH and Gunner had come out into Seattle and 313 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: UH and they were about ten rows up behind us, 314 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: and I'd gotten hit and gotten up and I was 315 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: like all right, and I found them. I was like, where, 316 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: We'll be fine, Like if all of a sudden, it 317 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: was like, we're just back in it again, you know. 318 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: And and obviously there's plays that I that I've missed 319 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: and things you want back and plays that I go. Man, 320 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: I probably would have made that play had I been 321 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: in a better groove. But there was that moment of 322 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna be fine, yeah, you know, and it's kind 323 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: of like, yeah, we're back in it. 324 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: Good to get that first hit out of the way. Sure, 325 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: and like you said, just just feel back in the flow. 326 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: So take me through that first week. As you mentioned, 327 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: it's it's chaotic, right, you know, You're they're throwing you know, 328 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: basic you know, game plan at you on Wednesdays and 329 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: you know then it changes on Thursday. There's all these 330 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, So when through that first week did it 331 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: feel like or if it ever did like natural and 332 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: you're back in it, and it felt like the normal 333 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: routine that you did for whatever seventeen years or whatever. 334 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I saw, I'll be honest, Wednesday and Thursday, 335 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: I told Cam Turner, you know, the quarterback coach. I was like, 336 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: I normally don't like to do this, but I'm cheating 337 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: on this whole walk through, and I'm looking at the 338 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: coverage and the blitz and all that is coming. So 339 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: we're killing the versus this and on this one. Now 340 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna move the protection, you know, like all that, 341 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: just because you're like, man, I gotta we have to 342 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: make this right. We can't be out there of jacking 343 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: all these things up and walk through and guys going 344 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: what to credit you do? So Wednesday and Thursday was 345 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: a little bit like I remember going home to the hotel, 346 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: you know, and calling Tiff and going, you just at 347 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: getting home. Here's nine o'clock and I'm like, oh yeah. 348 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: It was about fifteen hour day and I'm good in 349 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: my head's you know. I was like, man, my brain's exploding, 350 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: but just just to pour back in, you know. It's 351 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: just a different right, a different deal. But Fridays when 352 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: it felt normal and and I don't say this to say, 353 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: look when I've done. But Friday, we didn't have a 354 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: ball hit the ground. It was one of those Fridays 355 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: where it was like, all right, Fridays are supposed to 356 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: let me go. Yeah, here we go. Like that felt good. 357 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: It felt like that felt like a Friday I remember. 358 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 3: And uh, and then getting on the you know, getting 359 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: on a plane of playing the whole road trip stuff. 360 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: You know, it is it's just it's just, you know, 361 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: it's the thing. Is those the things you missed, you know, 362 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: getting in the locker room early, you know and it's quiet, 363 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: the train rooms, getting getting revved up, and all those 364 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: things that come with it that you remembered. But it 365 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: was that feeling again that you did. The smells, all 366 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: those things, the senses were all fired. Yeah, you know, 367 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: like dang, yeah, this is awesome. Wednesday on the practice field, like, man, 368 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: is what a blast it is to go to practice 369 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: football and the NFL on those day? You know. But 370 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: but there were days, right, you never took it for granted. 371 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: There were days on a Wednesday or Thursday where you're 372 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: just like a indie again. You know, we all had 373 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: those feelings that didn't mean you didn't appreciate it. But 374 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: now these last three weeks, I've been like, no, it's 375 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: all of it's good, all of it's awesome. 376 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, so what did you miss? Okay, So there's 377 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: so many things, you know, being a retired player, right, 378 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: there's so many things behind the scenes or even know, 379 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: like things I miss are like, you know, being in 380 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: a huddle, right, like you never get to replicate that 381 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: in the real world or you know, after you're done playing. 382 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Was there anything that you were truly missing as a 383 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: retired player that you got to do this past three 384 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: weeks that they kind of jumping back into it. 385 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think and one part that I've missed 386 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: whenever our you know, high school season was over. Now 387 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: my first years, we didn't make the playoffs, so we 388 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: were done before Halloween. It's like, wow, that's too early. 389 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: You know, we got November and December we got to 390 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: be playing football, you know, So I just missed it. 391 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: The season was so short, and then the last couple 392 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: years we made deep playoff runs, so we were almost 393 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: to the you know, we were to Thanksgiving both times, 394 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: so that that felt a little better. And I was 395 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: already four and five years out, so I mean, this 396 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: whole NFL thing was done, but I missed the high level, 397 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: the high level you know, scheme ball stuff, figuring out 398 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: these little details of where when Nicholas women Nichols coming 399 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: and all that. So you know, like that that first 400 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: Blitz meeting in there with Tony and the guys was like, yeah, 401 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: this is awesome. You know, all those little things, you know, 402 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: just the locker room, you know, the guys and all 403 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: those little parts. You know, here's the team meeting, and 404 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: then we're gonna do this, here's the mock game on. 405 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: So you know, all those the way the week kind 406 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: of just it's progressing mentally, right in emotionally because you're 407 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: gearing up for a big game and then but it's 408 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: winding down in terms of volume, right and a Friday 409 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: when you get done early, it's like, ah, gosh, a 410 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: deep breath. Yeah. So all those things, and I know 411 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: I could, I could rattle off all of them. I think. Yeah. 412 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: I think ultimately though, what I'm and you get it 413 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: a little bit as a coach in high school and 414 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: being around guys, but I missed being a teammate. I 415 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: think just that it was just that simple and there's 416 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: a lot of things to come with that, but it's 417 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: just like, dang, I'm going to be a teammate. You 418 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: know that's that's so good. Well, you're the ultimate teammate. 419 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: I know that. 420 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: And uh, there's. 421 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Not a better compliment you can give someone in my 422 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: opinion of being a great teammate. But uh, all right, 423 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: so I could hear you talk about football all day, 424 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: so I got to know your favorite route to throw 425 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: or concept and why it's your favorite. 426 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, for for years and years it was 427 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: probably you know, the combination of a seven right or 428 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: a nod, you know, a corner or a nod because 429 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: and then my love throwing a dover, you know, throwing 430 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: that deep over. And we hit a few of those 431 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: in the last few weeks, so those were those were fun. 432 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: I like the first window, sweet, I like that. I 433 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: like that any of those kind of high lows, those 434 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: and those intermediates. I didn't really get to hit a 435 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: big n uh missed the up all of those, but 436 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: I like it. I like throwing a big d But yeah, 437 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: a dover, anything isolated, you know, we hit, we hit 438 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: we hit tied on a dag in the Jags game, 439 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: which was nice. You know, kind of high low in 440 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: that corner that got a little nosy on the shin. 441 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: You know, any of those kind of things are always 442 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: always feel good, you know when you're seeking high low 443 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 3: somebody and you know the firm with an art. Has 444 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: Nor taught me years ago throw that ball firm with 445 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: an art, you know, and get it up and down. 446 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was fun to It was fun too 447 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: to throw to. Like man, that was the other thing. 448 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: I was a little bit like, hey, I'm know I 449 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: can throw the stationary targets in the backyard. It's like 450 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: these guys about to be moving fast again. And and 451 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: I came up that Monday and through with Eli and Coleman, 452 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: you know, and the indoor and and they're flying on 453 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: these dovers and stuff, and I was hitting home and 454 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: I was like all right, yeah, yeah, you know, the 455 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 3: fast dudes moving. It's like he's a little different than hey, 456 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: go to just scoot over there, let me take a 457 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: little job. Oh yeah, I'm good. Yeah. It was a 458 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: little different. But as the as the time went, I 459 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: got more and more confident than I was like, all right, 460 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: here we go, it's back to it used to be. 461 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: Well, so we'll go back to that's awesome and I 462 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: appreciate your insight on that because there was no one 463 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: better at throwing that would you call it the firm 464 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: with an firm with an arc? 465 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: There's no one better at throwing. 466 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: How many ends have we seen the Margers complete? 467 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: It was a. 468 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Malcolmployed, malcolmployed and Jackson and I mean, so awesome, it's 469 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: just best. I figured you would say Indigo was your 470 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: favorite concept that would have my guests. 471 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: Going into it. 472 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: But so let's talk a little bit about that twenty 473 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: twenty season, the one year we got to play together, 474 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: and uh, and it was a blast, and we had 475 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: a great group, and uh, you know, I guess my 476 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: question is, and you know, maybe the feelings came back 477 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: up seeing you go back to the Colts, but it's like, man, 478 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: I still think about that Buffalo playoff loss so much 479 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: because we had such a good group and and you know, 480 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: I really feel like we were poised for a deep run. 481 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: But do you think about it as much as how 482 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: I did? 483 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: No? I did. And you know what brought it up, 484 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: and it brought up a bad memory of that game 485 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: was we had a similar we're running a similar concept 486 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: in the Red zone my first week here, where you know, 487 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: Pitt runs the shallow and then climbs back to the 488 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 3: pyelone and I was like, Pitt, maybe we're gonna get 489 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: to get a do over, you know, because you're talking 490 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: that much on that form down. And there were a 491 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: handful of plays in that game. But the season itself 492 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: was awesome. It was it was such so unique, and 493 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, Frank, the whole organization did a 494 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: great job, as as I'm sure others did, of handling 495 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: all the hoops we had to jump through to play 496 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: a game. But it ended up being one of those 497 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: years where it almost felt like the team and the 498 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: camaraderie was not as good as it could be COVID 499 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: or not COVID, you know, And and it's just some fun, 500 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 3: fun memories. And obviously shooting that Buffalo game obviously had 501 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: the big cutter pump that we hit to get it 502 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: get it back close. And I think about the corner 503 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: route I threw you, was it sincy and the comeback 504 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: and you might have been a little fuzzy, had no comment, right. 505 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: I was like, Jack, you good, and You're like, yeah, 506 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: I think I lost. We'll hit you on the IVY 507 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: against Green Bay. You know, Yeah, that was a fun one. 508 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: That was probably my favorite game of that year besides 509 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: the comeback, since he comeback was fun because they were 510 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: down big. But the Green Bay game and overtime was 511 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: one was one I always looked back and go, man, 512 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: I wish it was a full house for that night, 513 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: you know, because then we had what fifteen thousand in there, 514 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: but because that was a heck of a heck of 515 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: a game battle and overtime win with the fumble and 516 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: then you know, we drilled the field goal. But yeah, 517 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: so many good memories of that year obviously ended ended up, 518 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, as it always, as it does for everybody, 519 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: but one team. Either you don't get in the playoffs 520 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: and you're sick for the missed opportunities, or you get 521 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 3: in and you never expect to lose, right, and then 522 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 3: it's just over. It's just over like that, and I 523 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: can I can put myself back walking up that tunnel, 524 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: going that's it. And uh, but it was a heck 525 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: of a heck of a heck of a fun season. 526 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: I was thankful to have gotten to be around, you know, 527 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of different guys. You know, I haven't been 528 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: in the same place for so long, and obviously loved 529 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: the charters. My time spent there was amazing, but getting 530 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 3: to be in a new place and a new challenge, 531 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: right to have to lead guys and get in the 532 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: huddle and be around, you know, do all this you 533 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: mentioned about the kid, but all those things, it's just like, 534 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: all right, this is it was. It was invigorating a 535 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: little bit, right, the challenge of all right, you get 536 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: you got a COVID year, you don't get to come 537 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: into a training camp and let's see how fast you 538 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: can get acclimated and let's go. And we did a 539 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: pretty dang good job of it. 540 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: So I got to ask, this is a little off topic, 541 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: but you mentioned it's again, so uh, Saint Michael's are 542 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: we saying a cadence or yeah, clap. 543 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: Know it's Gunner used exactly how you've heard me do. Yeah, 544 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: it does the same. It was. It was interesting. I 545 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 3: really wanted to be sensitive to the guys, uh, you know, 546 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: the lineman and all these guys for how they've done 547 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: it and how Daniel's done it all year. And then 548 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: so you know, we're at Seattle in the first game 549 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: and and we kind of intentionally staying a shotgun just 550 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: so we're gonna have the noise just used. You know, center, 551 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: I've been three days and Bort's great, but and uh 552 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: so we were silent on everything and it was fine, Hey, 553 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: tell me what you say for two leg kicks and 554 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: all that. So it's good. So now we're coming home 555 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: for San Fran game and I'm like, all right, go 556 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 3: through these go through this, cadence. What do you all 557 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: did it? So they're going through it all, and I'm like, 558 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: all right, okay, I can get I was like, guys, 559 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: I don't think. 560 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: No, what's it like? 561 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: The lights come on and you're out there, You're gonna 562 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna say something I've said, and you're gonna go 563 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: what is he doing? And so I remember saying, hey, 564 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't think I can get there, and and and 565 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: the guy and Shane was like get it how you 566 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: want it, you know. So it was one of those deals, 567 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: as your memory said, when you get to the offensive meeting, 568 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: get up there and go through all of them. 569 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: That's another thing. 570 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: There's better than the quarterback going up there and going 571 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: through I mean the one, like I said the Monday 572 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: night game, we could hear you so clearly, and. 573 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: Some of that audio it's it's it's as clear as 574 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: I've heard ever heard ever. 575 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 2: I mean, listen you do in that game was so awesome, Philip. 576 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: And then just you know, I hear the white white white, 577 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, and then you. 578 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Just trail off because you're about to go change up 579 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: protection and you know they'd be showing one side. 580 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, why is he going dops away? 581 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: And you're always right And there was a good one 582 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: too when you, uh you told downs. I think you're like, 583 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: block twenty, block twenty? Are you got twenty? And then 584 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: he runs a little quick out and you guys hit 585 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: it for a first down. It's like, man, it's the 586 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: little things, like it's the game within the game that's 587 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: that you miss. Yeah, that's what you miss. But uh no, Hey, 588 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, Philip. And I've kind of done 589 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: these one on one interviews with with guys I played with, 590 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: and I always end with a basketball question. Uh mo 591 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: Aley Cox was our first was our first guest, So 592 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: I got to ask these is kind of two parts. 593 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: A do you think you can take Mo one on one? 594 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I know you're a great shooter in hoops and then 595 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 1: I need to hear, you know, the people need to hear. 596 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I've heard your story before about your thousand shooting a 597 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: thousd was in free throws in a row and tell 598 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: us the number. 599 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we uh MO won on one. No, I 600 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: don't think I could handle Mo. Now Mo playing him 601 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: in horse and telling him no dunking, I think I 602 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 3: think I can beat Mo. Yeah. So it was it 603 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: was Frank and in San Diego one year, Kellen Clemens 604 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: and I and he was like, he asked, you know, 605 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 3: you're talking about free throw percentag shooters the other day 606 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: He's like, well, so if you shot a thousand free 607 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: throws over the course of the next few weeks. It 608 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: was like during Ota, how many do you think you 609 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: had hit? Do you think you had hit eight hundred? 610 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: Do you think you'd be eighty percent? I was like, oh, absolutely, 611 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 3: And so we went for it. And it was a 612 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 3: gym in our neighborhood where we lived, and so we started, 613 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: you know, doing two hundred a day. One day we did, 614 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: you know, three hundred. Next day. I was like, all right, 615 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: but he did one hundred, you know, whenever we could 616 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: squeeze it in. But so I will say as humble 617 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: as I can say, Yeah, thirty six, there was nine 618 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: thirty six or nine forty three. It was one of 619 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 3: those I get them mixed up now out of a thousand, 620 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: nine d and thirty six out of a thousand free throws. 621 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: I had a couple couple of days where we were 622 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: ninety nine out of one hundred, couple of ninety nine, 623 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 3: a few ninety sevens, and it was, uh, it was 624 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: it was a It was a blast. Now. I say 625 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: that to not say if I was in the at 626 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: the free throw line and a packed arena, I don't 627 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: know that. 628 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: You're going for the team. I mean, we've all experienced that. 629 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: It changes change. 630 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: We had some good shootouts that year. We did have something. 631 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 3: We got hot one year. One night you know, Frank, 632 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: well know what could beat you and you and Jacoby 633 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: and I had against a DV group or something. They 634 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: didn't stand a chance, no chance. But yeah, so that's 635 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: I could shoot it. I don't want to. I don't 636 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: want to MOTI back me down in. 637 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: The block, no thanks or something like that. But hey, Phil, 638 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm I really appreciate you doing this. I know you're 639 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: busy and there's a lot going on and you know, 640 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: as a former teammate of yours and you know, and 641 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: speaking for all football, if this is it or whatever, 642 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, well we just appreciate all you've given. 643 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: To the game. And I'm being very serious. 644 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the ultimate competitor, and like I said earlier, 645 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: there's there's not a better compliment the type of team 646 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: that you were and the millions I mean literally of people, 647 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: you know, fans and all that, and then you know 648 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: more you teammates, you played with, coaches, you know, you've 649 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: been around, You've touched so many people. And the way 650 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: you carried yourself as a competitor and as a teammate 651 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: man is you know. I hope my kids, you know, 652 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: take a little piece of view from that. You know, 653 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: you just you carry yourself the wrong the right way. 654 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: So it was it was certainly I wish I had 655 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: a more uh dynamic word, but just grateful and thankful 656 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: to have had the opportunity. And like I said, to 657 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: shoot all the Colts fans and everybody watching it, it's been. 658 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: It's been. They've been very welcoming back, you know, because 659 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: there was all those years. It was it was a 660 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: charger kind of Colt. Oh yeah, I mean I grew 661 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: up a Colts fans. All those years, I was mad. 662 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: I was mad at you. You know, what was it? 663 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: What was the yearn A or seven and o eight 664 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: you were back to back. You know, the punter was 665 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: kept pinning the cold steve. 666 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: I remember watching that. 667 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: Game playoff game. But no, it's it's been a real 668 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: blessing to be back, and uh, and to be back 669 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: and be a teammate again, and and bring up so 670 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: many fond memories. Like I said, some of both of 671 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: our former teammates, a lot of you are still here, 672 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, and so that was cool to have 673 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: shared those times on the field, like hey, we get 674 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: to go go after one more time and so yeah, 675 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: other than us not getting it done, uh, you know, 676 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: it's been it's been awesome. And uh yeah, thankful, thankful 677 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: that it happened, you know, and and and really appreciated 678 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: my family and you know, because it was there was 679 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: a sacrifice for them to absolutely we're moving to We're 680 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: going to Indy for Christmas, and you know, Tip was. 681 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: On to meet up with anybody you know from back 682 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: in the day. I mean, I know it's been a while. 683 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: I think a couple of them trying to try to 684 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 3: connect with a few because they were you know, five 685 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: years and at that age that's a life time. It is, 686 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 3: it's a lifetime. So no, it was great. It was great. 687 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 3: Got a little snow, we got a little bit of everything. 688 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: Uh the city went and shut down. It was Uh, 689 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: it was a special experience, like I said, other than 690 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: the other than the scores at the end, but uh, 691 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: thankful for I've gotten opportunity, excited to pull for Raleigh, 692 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: you know, this week in the finale and and and 693 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: be there to support him and look forward to him 694 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: making his first start and finishing off the right way. 695 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 3: And I'll be right back, right back at Saint Michael, 696 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: you know, getting some off season lifting going on, you know, 697 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: in school of resumes here in early January. 698 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: I love it. 699 00:26:53,480 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: Well, thanks again, Philip, really appreciate it. Thanks for listening.