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Speaker 1: do a throwback podcast where Mark talks about the songs
Speaker 1: of his love life prior to meeting his wife and
Speaker 1: goes through each of them in exhausting detail. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's going to be, uh really a journey through
Speaker 1: your heart. A little nervous, so check that out. That
Speaker 1: will be up tomorrow. Shameless pluck. All right now sounds exhausting.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I saw a list of the songs
Speaker 1: it is. It is, what a journey it will be.
Speaker 1: It's like going back through your personal attic for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned. I not. He likes going through
Speaker 1: the old pictures and things like, well, well, Greg, I
Speaker 1: actually existed before, so there are pictures, videos and thoughts too.
Speaker 1: Nothing's better than Camp Jewel when Mark, When Mark has
Speaker 1: a couple of lines and the Instagram gets fired up
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Speaker 1: to the games. All of the week eight games coming up, UM,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about fourteen of them today and
Speaker 1: of course do it draft style. But one one of
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Speaker 1: You did a good job with that. I I filed
Speaker 1: a question that you actually even responded to I did.
Speaker 1: It was something about you being hot or something I
Speaker 1: could No, no, no, no, no no no. It's just like,
Speaker 1: how do you get more time with Marco and on
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Speaker 1: time and I highly an Alice Greeby, who does an
Speaker 1: amazing job, you know, cultivating that site. Gentlemen, all I
Speaker 1: invite you to interface with your with the fans yourselves
Speaker 1: at some point. I think three of those four of
Speaker 1: us have done an I've done several of them. No, okay,
Speaker 1: well f me all right, No, I mean you are
Speaker 1: one of the three Greg has yet to dip into
Speaker 1: those waters. Something I would do. I read it. It's
Speaker 1: a little too do I read it? That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I would read it. Then I'll do a tweet. You know, Ricky,
Speaker 1: I thought you were asking to like post on our
Speaker 1: own message boards. That feels like a little desperate or something.
Speaker 1: But but I like to doing an A M A.
Speaker 1: Ricky our former producer, uh La sid who you know.
Speaker 1: I miss her every day. She's just awesome. But that's
Speaker 1: not the point. The point is she once did an
Speaker 1: A M A. The NFL subreadit, and uh you should
Speaker 1: do one too. I feel like that would be that's
Speaker 1: right up your alley. No, no way. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: why do you stink of producing? And I'd be like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you are a very small subs All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. It was getting her back alright
Speaker 1: doing a draft style and what West? I again? I
Speaker 1: double checked. I wanted to make sure West doesn't get
Speaker 1: banged on the order that he gets. You know, they
Speaker 1: correct the number of picks and as I look at it,
Speaker 1: I should be second this week you are second this week,
Speaker 1: but picking first probably means last as well for some reason. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know that's not true. Picking first is Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: um Rosie as some call you, but I never have
Speaker 1: you get it going in college. That's all people knew
Speaker 1: me as I dated a girl who thought my real
Speaker 1: name was Rosie. After two weeks, I was like, how
Speaker 1: does she not know that's a nickname? Yeah? That's you know?
Speaker 1: Was she? She wasn't all there? She thought your name
Speaker 1: was Rosie Rosenthal. It was, it was. It was troubling,
Speaker 1: as it would be if I didn't get this game.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm thrilled that I have the number one
Speaker 1: pick to take Brown's Patriots Tony Romo. And it's all
Speaker 1: fine because you know there's only three log And by
Speaker 1: the way, that is also the road to victory presented
Speaker 1: by the United State that it is, that's a segment.
Speaker 1: We've added a team that needs to go on the
Speaker 1: road and win. And I don't think it's quite as
Speaker 1: taller mountain as people believe it to be, because I
Speaker 1: think the Browns have the capability to be explosive. Could
Speaker 1: they do it for the next seven or eight weeks
Speaker 1: and kind of solve their problems and be consistent that.
Speaker 1: I have more doubts about can they have a spike
Speaker 1: game where coming off of bye week they came, they
Speaker 1: come up with some answers and give the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: some legitimate problems and keep it close and and give
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense problems too. With the defense, it's been
Speaker 1: pretty good. I think this is gonna be a great game,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm glad I got it. Number one, Mark,
Speaker 1: where do you stand on this? Because Greg is technically
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, but technically if you think, do you
Speaker 1: think this is going to be there for you? And yeah,
Speaker 1: Greg and I will be appearing on the Tomahawks show
Speaker 1: after and we both must zero in on this. So
Speaker 1: it's only three like games, we decided one of us
Speaker 1: needs to get it was there's no issues here, no grudge,
Speaker 1: delo double cross initially, No, No, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to allow that to become a narrator. But Greg
Speaker 1: and I we executed as we needed to. Now can
Speaker 1: the Browns do that? I I appreciate your optimism, but
Speaker 1: I cannot think of one thing and I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to just take a shot at the Browns there are
Speaker 1: a team in development. I cannot think of one thing
Speaker 1: that they do on field or from a coaching perspective
Speaker 1: better than New England. Even on a short week. They
Speaker 1: just create explosive plays. And so I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: used man defense more than any team in the league.
Speaker 1: What's the vulnerability to that? It's certainly if you can
Speaker 1: get over the top, if you can make big plays
Speaker 1: against them, You're gonna have Odell Beckham, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: you know, Nick Chubb. Sometimes in the running game, making
Speaker 1: exposive place, you're gonna have Jarvis Landry in one on
Speaker 1: one situations. I at least think they can give this
Speaker 1: defense more problems in theory than than any offensive placed.
Speaker 1: The skill players to the Browns are way superior to
Speaker 1: that of the Jets. But one of the big problems,
Speaker 1: and one of the huge failures in the Jets embarrassment
Speaker 1: on Monday night, was they did not adjust that they
Speaker 1: didn't really have time to get into the type of
Speaker 1: downfield passing patterns because the zero blitz that is apparently
Speaker 1: revolutionary and is going to go down is like the
Speaker 1: forty six defense of this era, UH simply doesn't allow
Speaker 1: that and if they think j Land you can adjust
Speaker 1: better and get But it's not about them. It's well,
Speaker 1: maybe they break off the routes. But I mean in
Speaker 1: terms of Ken this offensive line, Ken Baker Mayfield, a
Speaker 1: quarterback who he's not getting caught on Mike, but he's
Speaker 1: looked like he's been seeing ghosts at times this year
Speaker 1: as well. Can they handle the surge that is sure
Speaker 1: sure to come that took out the Jets and Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: to me, that's what this game is about. It is
Speaker 1: and this is by far the most talented offense the
Speaker 1: Patriots have faced. As Greg said, they have faced some
Speaker 1: bottom barrel, some dregs, and now you've got real talent.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that, uh Jarvis Landry's walked back guarantee
Speaker 1: is gonna work. You know, he said we're gonna go
Speaker 1: to New England and we're gonna win. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: that simple. We're gonna win. Walked it back a little
Speaker 1: bit and said, you know, mostly it was just we're
Speaker 1: going there with the purpose of winning. That's quite As
Speaker 1: for clarifying that that's the road to victory, I mean,
Speaker 1: why not say you're say you're gonna win. But I
Speaker 1: think the go ahead. But to me, the best chance
Speaker 1: for the Browns to win is with their defense pushing
Speaker 1: Tom Brady off his spot, making him move his feet,
Speaker 1: because as Dan has pointed out, as Marcu has pointed out,
Speaker 1: he's not moving quite as well as he did two
Speaker 1: or three years ago. Still throwing well, I think he'd
Speaker 1: great considering the situation around him. Josh Gordon was placed
Speaker 1: that injured reserve this week. This game has a whole
Speaker 1: a lot of Brown subplots, with Jamie Cause and Jason
Speaker 1: mccordy playing extremely well. Mccordy's ranked number two by PFF
Speaker 1: and at cornerbacks, and Collins has maybe been their most
Speaker 1: valuable player. But we should mention Gordon is out for
Speaker 1: the year, and yet Ian rapports reporting he's going to
Speaker 1: be healthy in a week or two. He's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get cut off injured reserve and land on a team
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins who will claim him, and Ian hinted
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to keep well conditioned. That's that's
Speaker 1: kind of why not? Why what well? Because if you're
Speaker 1: a veteran and you get cut after next week, you
Speaker 1: are you're open to waivers, and it's some team with
Speaker 1: a bad record, whether it's the Falcons or the Redskins
Speaker 1: or the Jets, who knows. I mean, back back to
Speaker 1: this game. I think that you've got Cleveland as Denzel
Speaker 1: Ward and Greedy Williams at cornerback for the first time
Speaker 1: in about a thousand years. They haven't had their full
Speaker 1: compliment in the secondary all season. They are by advanced metrics,
Speaker 1: about the seventh most UH imposing pass rush, although that's
Speaker 1: been very inconsistent. Every part of their team has been inconsistent.
Speaker 1: You can look at the personnel on offense, but I
Speaker 1: don't see a direct route for them to be any
Speaker 1: more convincing than a Jets team or a Bill's team
Speaker 1: on offense because they've been out of sync from wire
Speaker 1: to wire. Outside of some some big plays in the
Speaker 1: Ravens win, this Browns team is about his concerning on
Speaker 1: offense in terms of not living up to their parts
Speaker 1: as you can find in the league right now. I
Speaker 1: don't like this game for the Browns at all. Well,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like any team going against the Patriots. But
Speaker 1: can they depend they if they if they go in,
Speaker 1: if they lay an egg this to the same degree
Speaker 1: that the Jets do. That's a major disappointment. It's not
Speaker 1: a shot at anyone else, but they better. They better
Speaker 1: show up, and good coaching staffs come off a bye
Speaker 1: week and they saw some things they gotta get O
Speaker 1: b J going their average in eight yards per target
Speaker 1: to him. It's not all Baker Mayfield. The timing has
Speaker 1: been off. O b J's had probably more passes that
Speaker 1: have hit him somewhere in the hands or that he's
Speaker 1: had a chance to make a play, and he hasn't
Speaker 1: made the play more than any ever I've seen him
Speaker 1: before in his entire career. Yet he's moving as well
Speaker 1: as ever. He's just That's what I mean. That's like
Speaker 1: I do expect it to change at some point. But
Speaker 1: this week for you about Patriots fandom. Okay, do Patriots
Speaker 1: fan trust a team that has hit its stride so
Speaker 1: early in the season. I don't think they've hit their stride.
Speaker 1: It's the worst offense that they've had in fifteen years,
Speaker 1: So I think that's how I look at it. But
Speaker 1: it's a defense that it's historically great and can't be expected.
Speaker 1: I don't trust it because two thousand, No, because this
Speaker 1: part of the year as a Patriots fan, you realized
Speaker 1: only has so much meaning, and they're gonna go down
Speaker 1: defensively in terms of stats because they're gonna play better teams,
Speaker 1: but they have the components that you do trust that.
Speaker 1: It's nice. This reminds me of two thousand one, two three.
Speaker 1: I mean, those teams were not great offensively either. It
Speaker 1: is great to see Belichick feeling himself as if he
Speaker 1: hadn't accomplished enough. I feel like this season, coming off
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl with his son as one of the
Speaker 1: key figures, and like his favorite player Gerard Mayo, and
Speaker 1: his son and him are calling the defense the best
Speaker 1: defense they've had in over fifteen years. I think by
Speaker 1: the way it's it does smell of or loophole bonanza theater.
Speaker 1: You're allowed to put a guy in I R when
Speaker 1: he's healthy. He's not healthy. He's says he's right. He
Speaker 1: was surprised to hear this, and he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to sign with the team in play as soon
Speaker 1: as well. You know, because you can shut them, you
Speaker 1: you're losing the guy into right In theory, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's more of a cost to the team because you'd
Speaker 1: be losing a healthy Josh Gordon. They weren't done with John.
Speaker 1: They worked at They worked Y I R. Because he
Speaker 1: has all the time. They just deemed him not not
Speaker 1: important enough to keep that. People say he's like a
Speaker 1: week or two away. He has he had to bone
Speaker 1: bruises on his knee, which happened earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: They worked him out. He wanted to play. They they
Speaker 1: you know, there's some whispers his weight was up significantly.
Speaker 1: So Dan, if you are say player number forty five
Speaker 1: to fifty three on the roster and you get injured,
Speaker 1: even if it's a one week injury, you often end
Speaker 1: up on I R GO because they don't have the
Speaker 1: roster space for you. I'm sorry. It's fishing. And that
Speaker 1: was the road to victory present. Yeah, the United States.
Speaker 1: Did we find a road there? Which don't know. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was we went right into the b
Speaker 1: I don't know who the pans are in that situation.
Speaker 1: The Browns of the Patriots, I for are a the
Speaker 1: sake of our country. Hope it's to New England. Paigel,
Speaker 1: right West, you were up with the number two pick
Speaker 1: in our draft, the number two pick, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: workshop a couple of game titles here for you. A
Speaker 1: fork in the road game, a sinker swim game. Both
Speaker 1: of these apply to Kyle Allen and the Panthers quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: He's starting. Cam is just about getting healthy, and you're
Speaker 1: going up against the best defensive line in football on
Speaker 1: the road in San Francisco, and I just have a
Speaker 1: feeling that Kyle Allen's gonna lose his job because the
Speaker 1: forty Niners defense is so good, so dominant, to the
Speaker 1: extent that I'm locking up the forty Niners, I have
Speaker 1: that in mind. I thought about that. That's nice, like
Speaker 1: that lock because you need you need Kyle Allen to
Speaker 1: give you a plus performance to win this game, right,
Speaker 1: and that's asking a lot against this defense on the road.
Speaker 1: You're not just gonna be able to turn and hand
Speaker 1: at the Christian McCaffrey thirty five times. Against this defense.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to make some plays in the passing game.
Speaker 1: And when Kyle Allen drops back over and over again,
Speaker 1: he doesn't always deal with pressure well, as we've seen
Speaker 1: by all the fumbles. I think we saw it last
Speaker 1: year in the regular season finale. He's not the best
Speaker 1: against pressure. Now, I was thinking of locking this up too,
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna pick against the forty Niners until
Speaker 1: they play either a great veteran quarterback or a really
Speaker 1: good offensive line. The Carolina has neither. I would say
Speaker 1: if Carolina has a weakness this year, it's been communication
Speaker 1: along that offensive line. Teams sending blitzes and and different
Speaker 1: packages where they don't know who to pick up. And
Speaker 1: then you gotta play Nick Bosa and DeForest Bucket. There.
Speaker 1: This defensive line so good. Deford's a role player. They're
Speaker 1: only playing of twenty snaps the game because Rikar is
Speaker 1: better than him and word is lighting it up as
Speaker 1: a kind of a microwave off the bench. But Armsteads
Speaker 1: the pro bowler and defod making twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: They traded all these picks wors playing snaps. I mean,
Speaker 1: forty Niners have allowed ten points in three weeks. It's some.
Speaker 1: It's easy to forget a couple of things. Because the
Speaker 1: Panthers out of our world. A week ago. They had
Speaker 1: drives fall apart against the Bucks. Their offense was not
Speaker 1: on fire for big chunks of the game against Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay when we were there watching it live in London.
Speaker 1: But then you've got a Niners team, and I know
Speaker 1: this happened in awful elements. Jimmy g had ten yards
Speaker 1: passing against the Redskins in the first half last week.
Speaker 1: They're not a perfect offense from the quarterback position at all.
Speaker 1: I think this that the Panthers can keep this close.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you one thing, because I like
Speaker 1: what happened last week where West and I rode arm
Speaker 1: in arm two lock victory. So I'm gonna do the
Speaker 1: same exact thing two weeks in a row. Every week. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it two weeks because I can't
Speaker 1: see another lock I like better. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: pretty safely I got the lock here. I was leaning
Speaker 1: hard one way, and now you know what, join us
Speaker 1: feeling good about this and I want to get in
Speaker 1: on the party in us, So let's lock it up
Speaker 1: a third time. This has to be This has to
Speaker 1: be a lock with the least amount of dissension and prodding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had. I came into the show figuring it was
Speaker 1: this one or another one, and I figured if West
Speaker 1: was taking it that I wasn't gonna bother because it's like,
Speaker 1: what then what's at stake? Really? Well, there was another
Speaker 1: one on my list too, but that the other one
Speaker 1: feels like a gimme if the starting quarterback isn't playing.
Speaker 1: So oh, you got a little Falcons anti Falcons. I've
Speaker 1: got a little anti Matt Moore action going on. There
Speaker 1: is potential for a unique level way for us to
Speaker 1: all bond in the middle of a long season. Here,
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there. Yeah, come along for the
Speaker 1: rock right all right? Four on the Niners. That's an
Speaker 1: erica for you in terms of having to keep track
Speaker 1: of four different nonsensical locks throughout the show. You're done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was told that we're not, you know, paying
Speaker 1: that off, Greg. Can you look in the mirror on
Speaker 1: That's not true. We paid off on Yeah. And by
Speaker 1: the way, we let me say the standings here, I
Speaker 1: think for what it's worth, are might be that, you know,
Speaker 1: they played the Steelers in Week three. If there's a
Speaker 1: route for them to win, it's that the passing game
Speaker 1: for the fort has been a little inconsistent and that
Speaker 1: this defense, especially the past defense, is capable of making
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks look bad. That that is their path, and
Speaker 1: they have a very creative running game. It's two of
Speaker 1: the the most creative running games one thing about Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan that I've really liked is that even even when
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's not on, he's running the ball every time.
Speaker 1: I mean, He's just gonna keep running over and over
Speaker 1: again because he knows that complements his deep post a
Speaker 1: c L. He looks pretty darn athletic um, just so
Speaker 1: everyone knows. Through Week seven, Cessler and Roosevelt four and three,
Speaker 1: The Old Zeuser off the canvas two and five, two
Speaker 1: and a Row and West of course finally ended that
Speaker 1: historic slump one and six, and I feel like the
Speaker 1: heat checks coming on for a West or a real
Speaker 1: uh hot streak. Oh you do, thank you, I feel coming.
Speaker 1: None of us are on fire, all right? Pick three
Speaker 1: the Old Zeuser. This one's uh, this one's a good one.
Speaker 1: I liked this one a lot because I have been
Speaker 1: all season waiting for the Philadelphia Eagles to take off,
Speaker 1: and they just haven't. They've been Frankly, I think the
Speaker 1: Browns in the a f C and the Eagles in
Speaker 1: the NFC, to me, are the two most disappointing teams
Speaker 1: in the league this year. And the Eagles are different
Speaker 1: than the Browns, and that I thought the Eagles were
Speaker 1: a true Super Bowl contender. I thought the Browns could
Speaker 1: be a team that gets a lot better and goes
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. The Eagles, I thought could be great
Speaker 1: this year, and in fact, they've been crummy, and especially
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. The last two weeks have been
Speaker 1: an abomination. There in the middle of a three game
Speaker 1: road trip, and the third game now takes them to
Speaker 1: Western New York to play the Bills, who we know
Speaker 1: how good they are um in their building, we know
Speaker 1: how great their defense is, so this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a really tough game for them. But the two weeks, uh,
Speaker 1: the two games going into this at Minnesota thirty a
Speaker 1: total no show. And we know Sunday night was a
Speaker 1: no show thirty seven to ten, where they could not
Speaker 1: have looked any worse. So everything seems to be going
Speaker 1: in a certain direction. And yet there's still a part
Speaker 1: of me that thinks the Eagles can pull it together.
Speaker 1: And I want to call this um a must win game.
Speaker 1: I want to call this a what do we call it?
Speaker 1: And a dead underground game, essentially a dirt knap buried
Speaker 1: between six and seven ft under the earth. I still
Speaker 1: think it's too early to get that wrapped up there
Speaker 1: three and four right now. If they fall to three
Speaker 1: and five, they're in trouble but not done. But they
Speaker 1: need to stop the bleeding here and here come the Bills.
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of with Greg on the Bills that
Speaker 1: I respect them, love their defense, love how they play
Speaker 1: in their building. Although their only losses at home um
Speaker 1: against the Pats, But they're the only barely the Bengals
Speaker 1: and Dolphins at home or at least trailed fourth quarters
Speaker 1: to both those teams. It feels like a long time,
Speaker 1: but they're the only team that gave the Patriots a game. UM,
Speaker 1: So I want to see something from Josh All in
Speaker 1: this game. But I really do feel like the Eagles
Speaker 1: have a, you know, circle the wagons game against the Bills.
Speaker 1: Do they have a quarterback they want to circle the
Speaker 1: wagons around? I don't know. This reminds me of last
Speaker 1: year when that big, big article came out with all
Speaker 1: of these offensive players in the Eagles questioning the quarterback
Speaker 1: and he's coming off his worst game of the year.
Speaker 1: Before that game, I think most people would say he's
Speaker 1: been a top five quarterback this year, and yet uh
Speaker 1: Aghilar and mac hollins have been two of the worst
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus and
Speaker 1: the Game Film uh All, Sean Jeffrey and Zach Hurts
Speaker 1: are underperforming relative to last year. Neither one seems very happy.
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's calling people out. Jeffrey is the subject of
Speaker 1: a snitch report by a Philly reporter who said he
Speaker 1: was the source for Josina Anderson complaining about Carson Wentz Is.
Speaker 1: These veterans just don't seem to warm up to him.
Speaker 1: It's it's what's happening in Philly right now is what
Speaker 1: you see with like bad teams that are going down
Speaker 1: in a sinkhole, and I don't I'm I am also
Speaker 1: optimistic they can get it together. But here's another thing
Speaker 1: they did the last couple of weeks. They've released a
Speaker 1: player that they started on Sunday the following Monday, two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. That is something that like bad
Speaker 1: teams are kind of due to send Za Brown and
Speaker 1: then last week it was Orlando scandal. If you've got
Speaker 1: to start him and play him seventy snaps in the
Speaker 1: game and you're benching your second round pick from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, healthy, he wasn't even healthy scratch.
Speaker 1: He was active, and you won't even let Sidney Jones
Speaker 1: off the bench because of another punitive benching and then
Speaker 1: you cut him the next day. Something's something's weird there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Something is weird. They're trying to clean
Speaker 1: up the locker room, is what it sounds like. I'm
Speaker 1: at the point where Sean McDermott, and we've been Sean
Speaker 1: mcdermock fans ever since he visited the show and was
Speaker 1: an absolute delight when we were with him in the
Speaker 1: owner's meetings. But I got on that, well, that was smart,
Speaker 1: but that was a wise ten minutes by hit by
Speaker 1: that head coach. I think other head coaches should similar paths.
Speaker 1: But I trust him more than Doug Peterson right now,
Speaker 1: and I trust the way the bills are run from
Speaker 1: head to toe and this though at the same time,
Speaker 1: I feel like Josh Allen, who you look at a
Speaker 1: lot of metrics, is one of the is a bottom
Speaker 1: barrel quarterback, to your point, a bottom five quarterback in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I'm I'm not giving up on
Speaker 1: him on any level because there's a lot to like
Speaker 1: if he can get some of it. Kind of hemmed in,
Speaker 1: but this is a game where I think he can
Speaker 1: generate some points and from the Eagles side, and I
Speaker 1: think you mentioned it West, that is, if this was
Speaker 1: an offense that hinged entirely around the return of DeShawn Jackson,
Speaker 1: he will be back in this game. They were spicy,
Speaker 1: Well that's what I read that they that he's he's
Speaker 1: he's heading in that direction. They were spicy when they
Speaker 1: played the Redskins in Week one in the second half
Speaker 1: when d Jacks was the deep threat for them. They
Speaker 1: have not had that with what mac hollands stepping into
Speaker 1: that role they have, They've missed that and Nelson agen
Speaker 1: vertically and that's all he wants. That's when Smiths throws
Speaker 1: down the field last week. If he has a weakness,
Speaker 1: that's it. Nelson or like all Sean Jeffrey can can
Speaker 1: complain all he wants to whoever. He looks like a
Speaker 1: someone shotgun shotgun from the tight end position from four.
Speaker 1: To me, he's a big, gigantic, bulky receiver who gives
Speaker 1: no deep option to Wentz. What is around Wentz right now?
Speaker 1: When they were dominant and he was awesome in m
Speaker 1: v P level, they were destroying people with their ground
Speaker 1: game because they were getting up early and absolutely man
Speaker 1: handling opponents down the stretch. They lost two straight games
Speaker 1: by seventeen or more points because the secondary is a
Speaker 1: total leaky factory. They're an absolute disaster. I preface this
Speaker 1: by saying that I think this is going to be
Speaker 1: a game and it's just more a field than anything else.
Speaker 1: But what do the Eagles do well right now? Not much?
Speaker 1: It really made me think what Mark asked the question?
Speaker 1: They who are they? Who? As their identity? If they
Speaker 1: can't stop to run, If they can't stop the run
Speaker 1: like they didn't last week overall this year they have
Speaker 1: and they're not strong up front, like on on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, then who are they? You're right? And Deshan
Speaker 1: Jackson it doesn't look like he's expected the way he
Speaker 1: has not been at practice either day. I read that
Speaker 1: and just you know, just to put it out there.
Speaker 1: One thing they do well, Dan the quarterback of Superman
Speaker 1: when he gets help. He just hasn't gotten enough help.
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard. There was a line and I forget which writer,
Speaker 1: maybe was Zach Berman in The Athletic, who said, you
Speaker 1: can make the case Jordan Howard is the only player
Speaker 1: on this team that's outperformed expectations. It's a bald statement. Alright, Mark,
Speaker 1: you're up. Alright, Well, so I'm not going to take
Speaker 1: one of the late games because Greg and I will
Speaker 1: be absorbed on the same contest. Me apparently responsibility free
Speaker 1: just watching it with my eyes. But I I am
Speaker 1: plugged in on with what else I don't know. I
Speaker 1: am plugged into this little one pm East Coast ten
Speaker 1: am West Coast affair Cardinals at Saints. And there's a
Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I like this game a lot.
Speaker 1: Why there's not there's a lot of oare Christian Hackenberg
Speaker 1: comes off the board? And where would you go there? Honestly,
Speaker 1: where would you before you just throw your ridiculous arrows?
Speaker 1: Where would you go? There's a bunch of junkism ahead,
Speaker 1: But I hope so because we're about forty What am
Speaker 1: I supposed to be excited about? Broncos cults, everyone of
Speaker 1: the has issues here. Let me sell it may be
Speaker 1: a blood Beth, but I think you have one of
Speaker 1: the offenses out of Arizona that is improving week to week.
Speaker 1: They are fun to watch. Kyler Murray is living up
Speaker 1: to the promise, and they watching them against the Giants,
Speaker 1: against another team that had no idea how to deal
Speaker 1: with what Arizona was thrown at them. They could not
Speaker 1: stop the ground game. I think Arizona is finding a
Speaker 1: way because of the way that they separate and spread
Speaker 1: out an offense to have a dangerous run attack. You
Speaker 1: can't even call that like part of their passing attack
Speaker 1: because there's no one around half of these guys to
Speaker 1: take the ball, especially when they're catching in space. I
Speaker 1: want to see how the Saints handle it. I think
Speaker 1: the Saints defense went into Chicago and put the Bears
Speaker 1: on such heavy blast that Chicago goes and loses this week.
Speaker 1: Their season may essentially be over because the Saints, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned this last week, Week after week they go
Speaker 1: in and whoever they deal with, they expose them and
Speaker 1: create a ton of issues for that team the next
Speaker 1: week with the media with everyone answering there that dominant
Speaker 1: of a defense. Now the Cardinals have a little bit
Speaker 1: less at stake, but Sean First, Cliff Kings break justin.
Speaker 1: I don't think if the Cardinals went three, four and one,
Speaker 1: Arizona is going to be set on fire from like
Speaker 1: border the border. I think people are they realize the
Speaker 1: Bears fans thought the team is racing right into the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, making that game embarrassments. So this game is
Speaker 1: more intriguing than than it looks on paper. To some
Speaker 1: I'm I'm into it. What else do I need to
Speaker 1: do then be into it? I can see why you
Speaker 1: be into it. It's a nice litmus test game for
Speaker 1: the Cardinals who are beating up on some bad teams.
Speaker 1: But Greg greg Olsen, basically his analysis last week was
Speaker 1: this team is really hard to defend because you know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. You just have no idea when
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. With all the fakes, the pre
Speaker 1: snap motion, the jet sweeps, you just don't know what
Speaker 1: the alignment is gonna lead to once the ball is
Speaker 1: snapped and you see a lot of open spaces in
Speaker 1: the running game and even in the past Cardinals you're talking, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a test for this Pints, but I mean, let's
Speaker 1: I would calm down about it. You know, this is
Speaker 1: still a Cardinals offensive. I mean, I just know, I know,
Speaker 1: I think it would be a fun game. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned that Drew Brees is likely to return.
Speaker 1: That is a huge development. It's part of my least
Speaker 1: favorite trend I've been seeing growing on Twitter, which is
Speaker 1: Twitter takes that players should stay on the bench through
Speaker 1: their bye week. This is a this is a common thing.
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't think they should push it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he should be sitting during the bye week. Like a
Speaker 1: ton of people have said that about a lot of
Speaker 1: different injuries this week this year. It's like, you have
Speaker 1: absolutely no medical information whatsoever. What do you know that
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta stay. Yeah, why don't you play it?
Speaker 1: And you should sit through the bike? You don't know
Speaker 1: anything about any of their medical information. Y. There's an
Speaker 1: extremely easy counter to you on the high horse right right,
Speaker 1: that if he has an injury that was enough to
Speaker 1: cost him four weeks and you're playing a bad team
Speaker 1: and you have a chance and that two more weeks
Speaker 1: of rest. That if your voice was if the goal
Speaker 1: is to win the Super Bowl and you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get that extra rest, perhaps not rushed back.
Speaker 1: This guy's rushed back from all the time and reaggravate
Speaker 1: them because they came back a week too soonus that
Speaker 1: I wonder, are you supposed to just stay silent and
Speaker 1: never have any I wonder if the medical professionals with
Speaker 1: all the information considered that angle. You know, it's Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: If he's healthy, he's playing like if you're if you
Speaker 1: were ready to do a show, you're doing the show.
Speaker 1: They consider all of that. Of course, they're not going
Speaker 1: to put him out there unless he can put like
Speaker 1: you have. Injuries are just not something. I feel like
Speaker 1: I need to have an opinion, right exactly, that's my mind.
Speaker 1: But must but you it's the It's again, it's you
Speaker 1: taking fans and treating them as if the fans isn't
Speaker 1: like has nothing to do with fans. It's media a
Speaker 1: little too. There are two high flutant. There are certain
Speaker 1: things when it's a hamstring snagged a play room. I'm
Speaker 1: talking a little about media and people covering the league,
Speaker 1: mostly that have opinion shows and are on Twitter. That
Speaker 1: you come out with hot takes about medical stuff. That's
Speaker 1: all I mean. You shouldn't have a hot you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be like screaming that's Stephen A. Smith about it. I
Speaker 1: get that. I mean in general that on Twitter that
Speaker 1: it's crazy to play him against the car. But it's
Speaker 1: not not a foolish. You can have a measured take
Speaker 1: on it, not withopening in the doctor's room. Yes, I
Speaker 1: think it's probably smart to have no medical takes, but
Speaker 1: your you think you're not having this is a medical
Speaker 1: take that's true. Are suggesting that your concept of medical
Speaker 1: knowledge supersedes all of ours because you're you're in the know,
Speaker 1: being chilled out mode. I don't know anything. Is my
Speaker 1: point that none of us know any It's like people
Speaker 1: operate as if there's a level beyond If the doctors say,
Speaker 1: you're what more do you need? We who said that
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know anything. You're assuming because
Speaker 1: he's clear that they believes we don't know that. But
Speaker 1: he may say, because I'm Drew Brees, amn the King
Speaker 1: of f Mountain over there, that I'm playing even if
Speaker 1: I don't feel all the way back, And they'll say
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, well, we pay you twenty three
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, so we probably want to return
Speaker 1: on our invent investment. But maybe it's better to give
Speaker 1: it a little bit of My little thing is we're
Speaker 1: just operating at a deficit of information, which is true
Speaker 1: of alst everything that we do that extends beyond medical right,
Speaker 1: it takes like six seven years. I think of covering
Speaker 1: football to learn that you don't almost know anything about
Speaker 1: how the game works, and a lot of people I think,
Speaker 1: I think ever never even get Then I would ask
Speaker 1: you why why I'm just saying the medical Would you
Speaker 1: offer an opinion on anything beyond medical? Why offer I'm
Speaker 1: saying anything that you're trying to measured and you try
Speaker 1: to learn. Thumbs up for Drew Brees. Let's yeah, well done.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, it's time where it's time to snake? Ricky?
Speaker 1: Did you do your homework? Oh my god, what an
Speaker 1: angry snake. Here's stupid? All right, Mark, game number two
Speaker 1: and again, I think you'll reveal as you dig into
Speaker 1: the ladder rounds here that we're not working with a
Speaker 1: ton of magical matchups on paper. Here. I'm going Giants
Speaker 1: Lions because I want I want one more shot at
Speaker 1: the Lions to rescue themselves out of this hole. The Giants,
Speaker 1: to me, at least, are interesting with Daniel Jones. I
Speaker 1: thought that they there's something that Daniel Jones does one
Speaker 1: or two or three things every game that make me
Speaker 1: like him more. And whether it's doing something that Eli
Speaker 1: Manning or fill in the blank, aging stone Age pony
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback could not do, which is a scapability when
Speaker 1: it gets into troublesometimes, he'll also make He's still making
Speaker 1: killer mistakes. I thought there was a strip sack on
Speaker 1: him last week against the Cardinals and they put a
Speaker 1: ton of pressure on him that was totally inexcusable. That
Speaker 1: like another quarterback with better field vision would not allowed
Speaker 1: that to happen to him. So the Giants are a
Speaker 1: team that the Lions better take advantage of. It sounds
Speaker 1: like will not be in this game, Greg, I'll confirmed
Speaker 1: that with you. On the medical front, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that that's just what I'm hearing at this point, but
Speaker 1: I I am not going to I'm not gonna say it,
Speaker 1: but the Lions are banged up. No carry on Johnson.
Speaker 1: Their offense to me, is just simply not the same
Speaker 1: without him. But this is a game. You gotta take
Speaker 1: care of it, huh you to I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're selling to anyone. I thought it was interesting that
Speaker 1: the mat Patricia did a very belichicki ish thing where
Speaker 1: he traded away Quandre Digs, which irritated the Lions locker room,
Speaker 1: including Darius Slaves. Spoke about it to no end, and
Speaker 1: that if you want, if you're gonna do BELICHICKI and things,
Speaker 1: you're gonna You know, the Patriots just went and picked
Speaker 1: up Justin Bethel. That made everyone happy because he's a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame special teamer. But if you're the Lions,
Speaker 1: you're cutting the other way, and you annoyed your secondary,
Speaker 1: you annoyed your defense. I wonder why the move was made.
Speaker 1: Second year in a row, they've kind of thrown up
Speaker 1: a white flag at the trade deadline Golden Tate last year,
Speaker 1: when well, this isn't away flag. They like a younger
Speaker 1: player and he was probably one of the worst starters
Speaker 1: in the league at his position. I'm just saying from
Speaker 1: a lockman man, now you've reached your We've signed Marcus
Speaker 1: Gilchrist off the street section of the season, which never
Speaker 1: works well for any defense out there. So it is
Speaker 1: a bit of a white flag. I wonder if ma
Speaker 1: Patrician Bill Beltick share infot Like, did they call each
Speaker 1: other and talk about the Giants? You know, they Patriots
Speaker 1: just played the Giants. They're like best friends. I played
Speaker 1: the Giants. The Lions play three weeks ago, Like, does
Speaker 1: that happen? I'm just curious about that. There's a lavish
Speaker 1: owners meeting party every year um that takes place at
Speaker 1: a luxury hotel that we are and all media are
Speaker 1: allowed to attend, and it's it's kind of, from a
Speaker 1: people watching perspective, the best, the best party of the
Speaker 1: year to be involved with, because it's the party where
Speaker 1: all the head coaches are there, all the gms, their
Speaker 1: owners milling around. And I think it was not this
Speaker 1: Tariko and friends. Tarriko is there. Everybody's there, and you'll
Speaker 1: see people getting drunk. You'll see coaches stumbling. It's fun times, okay,
Speaker 1: and you don't share that info who you see stumbling,
Speaker 1: but you laugh about it privately. Now sometimes they've they've
Speaker 1: laughed at us. I think at times two. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they have mat Patrician Bill Belichick with their significant others,
Speaker 1: the Great Linda not Belichick. It's Linda Holiday holiday not
Speaker 1: always a holiday with Linda not Rick holiday and Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia's wife, I believe, sitting together having a drink laughing.
Speaker 1: This is there's no bitter situation between those two men.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1: This should be Yeah, they should be a better giants offense.
Speaker 1: I mean they should. They had one against the bad defense,
Speaker 1: they had one good game with Daniel Jones, and they've
Speaker 1: had four terrible games. They're averaging twelve points a game
Speaker 1: on offense over four weeks. I think that's the I
Speaker 1: would guess that's the worst in the NFL. I didn't
Speaker 1: check it, but twelve points a game is hard to do.
Speaker 1: Their defense and special teams are almost outscoring Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: over the last four weeks. You have Evan Ingram back,
Speaker 1: you have se Quon Barkley back. Uh, you should be
Speaker 1: able to move the ball on this line's team. It
Speaker 1: should be a good, like high scoring game. This Lions
Speaker 1: team is gonna have to win shootouts. I think they're
Speaker 1: kind of built for it. But it's tougher without Patricia.
Speaker 1: The guy has a ring as a defensive coordinator. And
Speaker 1: of course we know Belichick's the mastermind there. But this
Speaker 1: team is thirty feet to total defense against the run,
Speaker 1: thirty against the past. Se Kuon Barkley, for what it's worth,
Speaker 1: is practicing in full this week, and he did. He
Speaker 1: looks finally did slightly aggravate the ankle we're told in
Speaker 1: in the loss of the Cardinals. But there's also a
Speaker 1: chance that this could be that great plays too. But
Speaker 1: you've been very nice west of the Lions. Well, those
Speaker 1: things are over. I mean, we have been patient with
Speaker 1: the lines, We've been kind. But if you do not
Speaker 1: win at home against the Giant's team that's going in
Speaker 1: the wrong direction, you will be in You guys are
Speaker 1: a lot You guys are a lot more uh interested
Speaker 1: in the Lions at this point than I am. They
Speaker 1: had their a few weeks where they're interesting. They're done.
Speaker 1: They have a bad defense. They're twenty one in d
Speaker 1: v o A. You said all those other numbers were
Speaker 1: even worse. And the guy they spent five million dollars on,
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers, has one sacking, isn't really doing much for them.
Speaker 1: I don't what what is fascinating about this defense? That
Speaker 1: may be a case for Belichick and Patricia did not
Speaker 1: talk as much as Patricia would like to about Trey Flowers,
Speaker 1: who he knew very well. But please all right. Next
Speaker 1: up is the old Zeuser. I will check back in
Speaker 1: with the Jets, who cannot play any worse than they
Speaker 1: played last week on Monday Night Football, and now they
Speaker 1: travel to Jacksonville to face the Jacks. I think the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are what interests me here. It's Sam Donald, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, on top of everything else in that
Speaker 1: game got his footstepped on and they had to remove
Speaker 1: his toneage, which, by the way, is another underrated you
Speaker 1: mono people like have vague teenage memories of having having
Speaker 1: Have you ever had an I've had a fingernail removed?
Speaker 1: It is not it is no fun like that isn't
Speaker 1: personal medical from actual life. But anyway, I don't think
Speaker 1: you should play this week to the point, to the
Speaker 1: point that I kept him out of practice. I believe
Speaker 1: he returned in a limited fashion. Uh today, pretty good
Speaker 1: today there, so he'll be fine. But it's just more
Speaker 1: you know, when it rains, it pours for s darn uh.
Speaker 1: So yes, I want to see the quarterbacks in this game.
Speaker 1: I want to see Donald back um and show some
Speaker 1: fight and show some resolve after what was really, frankly
Speaker 1: a humiliating week for him um, even if he did
Speaker 1: handle it well in the media, and I do think
Speaker 1: he'll bounce back. Although they're getting a road match up
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars who trade away Jalen Ramsey and the
Speaker 1: defense gets a lot better um against the Bengals, of course,
Speaker 1: but they played extremely well last week. I want to
Speaker 1: see more from Gardner Minshew. I want to see the game.
Speaker 1: I want to see what everybody's excited about. I want
Speaker 1: to see what you what you love about him Mark,
Speaker 1: because watching him the last two weeks hasn't given me
Speaker 1: a lot of juice. So I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: an important game for him. With Nick Foles, I think
Speaker 1: is still a little bit ways off, but he's got
Speaker 1: to stack a couple of good performances here to justify
Speaker 1: keeping him in the lineup, and Donald needs to show
Speaker 1: everybody that he's not the ghost guy. I think if
Speaker 1: Nick Foles had stayed healthy and played the way Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew has played, the Jags would be very happy with
Speaker 1: that trade. I think Gardner Minshew has been good enough.
Speaker 1: He's been good enough to win, and the difference between
Speaker 1: the two is he's still developing. He can become much better.
Speaker 1: I think you have to stay with him, and you know,
Speaker 1: we got three more weeks still, even tell Fols is eligible.
Speaker 1: I don't fault Gardner Minshew for the Jaguars, only, you know,
Speaker 1: having single digits for two and a half, he leads
Speaker 1: them down on the opening drive last year and they
Speaker 1: fumble at the goal line, and then now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Gardner Minshew is not a good quarterback. He
Speaker 1: has calm feet, like he's so calm in the pocket,
Speaker 1: but then he can also you know make you know,
Speaker 1: make extra time by moving around and doing those little solemns.
Speaker 1: He doesn't make mistakes. I guess that's what stands out
Speaker 1: to me for a young quarterback. He makes really good decisions.
Speaker 1: He's averaging seven and a half yards pertempt. He has
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns and two interceptions. Well, yeah, if Donald had
Speaker 1: those numbers would be going crazy. This was the game
Speaker 1: I was gonna lock up. I feel really good that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are just a better team than the Jets. Um.
Speaker 1: I think this is not a good Jaguars defense. It's
Speaker 1: pretty at mediocre uh and basically every metric possible. But
Speaker 1: I do think it's a tricky matchup for a team
Speaker 1: that has offensive line and protection issues. Because Todd wash
Speaker 1: likes to get creative. This is a team that loves
Speaker 1: the blitz, loves to send a lot at you, and
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be licking his chops. And I
Speaker 1: just seen too much bad offense from the Jets that
Speaker 1: I trust the bad offense more than I trust the
Speaker 1: one game against the Cowboys, which is really one half
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. So I just think the Jaguars just
Speaker 1: a little more sound throughout, and I like them. I'm
Speaker 1: with you the sense that the thing that keeps carrying
Speaker 1: over for New York is bad offensive line play. I
Speaker 1: like to match up for Jacksonville at home, and you
Speaker 1: know I would when it comes to Adam Gaze. And
Speaker 1: I know that number one, you went and you got
Speaker 1: Levan Bell, and Levian Bell has been a terrible situation
Speaker 1: as a running back with the quarterback house that've had.
Speaker 1: So I'm not asking for big numbers, but I do
Speaker 1: question if you go back and look at Miami's running
Speaker 1: backs under Adam Gaze and the Adam Gaze experience in general,
Speaker 1: is this the coach that knows how to maximize Levan Bell.
Speaker 1: He hasn't topped seventy yards on the ground or sixty
Speaker 1: in the air all year, and and and you have
Speaker 1: a one of the leagues in theory top weapons, and
Speaker 1: you have Donald Back. You've been I think he's been
Speaker 1: in an impossible situation and he runs hard and he
Speaker 1: makes something out of nothing. And when he had no
Speaker 1: quarterback play at all and Donald was out, um, he
Speaker 1: didn't get do much damage. But the guy plays are
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I went on Twitter and pointed out everybody
Speaker 1: who was lumping this guy in with Antonio Brown. And
Speaker 1: he's been nothing but a good He has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Antonio brand. But I think, I don't think,
Speaker 1: I don't think anything, all right, But he's been an
Speaker 1: awesome teammate in New York number one, and that's not
Speaker 1: he's been in a bat. I want to see how
Speaker 1: to use him when they have all their parts, and
Speaker 1: because it might be a gaze he lacks. You know,
Speaker 1: Bella is in one of the most talented running backs
Speaker 1: ever and you can see that, and he's running hard.
Speaker 1: I think he lacks a little bit of the explosion
Speaker 1: that he used to. I mean, you have that many runs,
Speaker 1: you have that many plays that you get to the
Speaker 1: second level, you would expect that he would have something
Speaker 1: longer than a thirteen yard run before last week. Now
Speaker 1: I think it's coming along. He's gotten a little better
Speaker 1: each week. But I like Mark saying I want to
Speaker 1: see them use him as a receiver because He's one
Speaker 1: of the best receiving backs that I've ever seen. He
Speaker 1: has ten to the air in the last two games.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's for an offense, especially that is
Speaker 1: dealing with a ton of pocket pressure your quarterbacks under dress.
Speaker 1: Throw into your running back is something we're seeing every
Speaker 1: other coach in the league do, and in Gaze at
Speaker 1: some point runs out of excuses. Have your quarterback. But
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with I just don't just think he's not.
Speaker 1: I trust the unleash bell at this point. Prove me wrong. Um.
Speaker 1: I also want to point out Mark A. Greg on
Speaker 1: injury corner. C J. Mosley was deemed well enough to
Speaker 1: play on Monday, and on the first drive he's limping
Speaker 1: along the plane of the goal line, and now Gays
Speaker 1: announces on Thursday that they have to do a quote
Speaker 1: deep dive on what's going on with his grind. He's done.
Speaker 1: You could, I could book it. He's gonna be on
Speaker 1: i R probably before this podcast is over, so you
Speaker 1: essentially and who knows, maybe he's back in four weeks,
Speaker 1: but the season is basically lost. And that was a
Speaker 1: centerpiece signing of the off season. Well they have it
Speaker 1: gets hurt in week one and have an easy schedule
Speaker 1: coming up. You were saying even a week ago, even
Speaker 1: if they lose the Patriot, well, but it's just it
Speaker 1: only counts once and its standings lost his count more
Speaker 1: than that, I don't have any more faith. That was
Speaker 1: a psychologically jarring defeat, right And when you're on the
Speaker 1: other end of that as a fan, you feel that
Speaker 1: a little bit more in this week and then it
Speaker 1: erases it. But if you don't win this week, you know,
Speaker 1: bye bye. If the Jags are lasting red zone percentage,
Speaker 1: that's one thing where for a running team, you would
Speaker 1: not think they would be the worst team in the
Speaker 1: league in terms of scoring touchdowns in the red and
Speaker 1: so that's why all their games are closed. And honestly,
Speaker 1: with Minshew, his numbers would be much different. They had
Speaker 1: four drives last week that ended in field goals where
Speaker 1: they were nine, ten, eleven. They've done that every week.
Speaker 1: Before Monday night, I would have said, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a great game, and I feel good now. Who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets compete, but I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: if they lose thirty one three either. It's that was
Speaker 1: bad on Monday all right West Europe. Well, I'm risking
Speaker 1: a potential uniform apocalypse in this game, but you know
Speaker 1: it is America's heartland in a grass field, I gotta
Speaker 1: go with my Titans. You know, Buccaneers and Titans. Well,
Speaker 1: I have fun. I have fun watching them. I thought
Speaker 1: Tannehill was a massive upgrade on Mariota. Even with a
Speaker 1: few negative plays. They had their highest yards per attempt
Speaker 1: of the year, their best third down percentage of the year.
Speaker 1: They're outside receivers Corey Davis and A J. Brown both
Speaker 1: had their highest catches of the year, and they're head coach.
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel came in Monday and could not stop talking
Speaker 1: about tight window throws as if he had never seen
Speaker 1: them before. With Marcus Mariotta under center, it was a
Speaker 1: different offense. You even had a two minute drill in
Speaker 1: there to end the first half. I mean, these are
Speaker 1: things Titans fans just aren't used to seeing. And then
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, the first round pick, comes back and, as
Speaker 1: Greg said in the debrief, may have been the best
Speaker 1: player on the field. Albert Haynesworth was raving about him, saying,
Speaker 1: when I looked at this guy, he's worth the in
Speaker 1: didn't look like a rookie, looked like a fifth or
Speaker 1: six year Albert Haynesworth. He it's a good I mean,
Speaker 1: it's easy, I guess because the Titans thing. But that
Speaker 1: was a great comp because he seems so strong along
Speaker 1: with the athleticism that he was overwhelming. I I texted
Speaker 1: a little with DJ about it this week because he
Speaker 1: had called Simmons a top five player in the draft,
Speaker 1: if not for the A C L surgery. And then
Speaker 1: there was also um a sexual assault when he was
Speaker 1: early uh an alleged assault early in his career. There
Speaker 1: was a woman picking on his sister and her children
Speaker 1: and he's step I'm sorry, that should be corrected. And
Speaker 1: that was back in two thousand and sixteen. But the
Speaker 1: Combine didn't invite him because of that um. But just
Speaker 1: watching him play, he was a massive difference maker. And
Speaker 1: Tannehill was too. I mean, I think you have these
Speaker 1: receivers Corey Davis and A. J. Brown. There's a chance
Speaker 1: that you get a little more out of him if
Speaker 1: you give him a chance to make those tight catches.
Speaker 1: And who would have thought after all these years, Finally
Speaker 1: we got Mariota Winston in year five to decide it,
Speaker 1: and the winner of that debate is Ryan Tannehill. You
Speaker 1: want Mario, we we uh, we do have a lot
Speaker 1: of evidence on Ryan Tannehill over the course of six
Speaker 1: or seven years. Yeah, I'm not getting to know that
Speaker 1: we've been sucked in by that guy before, too, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: allow me to clarify ahead. I don't think he's any
Speaker 1: kind of long term answer. He's just making the Titans
Speaker 1: more watchable and I'm enjoying it. Let's see, let's see
Speaker 1: what he does against a different defense than the charge
Speaker 1: in a better in a better situation. Think there's a
Speaker 1: case that he's can be adult in like figure adult
Speaker 1: and we've talked about media. Yeah, goes like that, which
Speaker 1: is a little better than I think people think of
Speaker 1: him as He's fine, his his his sitting there at
Speaker 1: the Dalton scale line was the one guy we can
Speaker 1: think that maybe is doing and maybe this year too
Speaker 1: was Dalton doesn't really fit as a Dalton scale at
Speaker 1: this point. But I cannot get out of my own
Speaker 1: mind watching the live we had an assassination on Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton by Mark Straight and into a my mind, I
Speaker 1: loved it. Well, I think I'm being extremely fair on
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton at this point. I mean, he back to
Speaker 1: back to back intercept. Why do you think you're being fair?
Speaker 1: And he's the same quarterback he's always been. The only
Speaker 1: thing that's changes this around. Hi, why are we talking
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton? We can get into Andy Dalton. I mean,
Speaker 1: then let's flip over to Jamis Winston, who totally sabotaged
Speaker 1: his own team a week ago and does it every
Speaker 1: other week. And Greg, you pointed out the Saints game
Speaker 1: where he have had five picks in that game where
Speaker 1: he didn't, And I wonder when the Bucks have you know,
Speaker 1: they don't have someone to throw in there like Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill at this point, but the experiment is over. If
Speaker 1: there's anyone trying to tell me that you're going to
Speaker 1: travel into next season with Jamis Winston, you gotta be
Speaker 1: kidding me. Feels very unlikely. And this is the wrong
Speaker 1: team for him to face. I think, because I think
Speaker 1: the Titans what they're good at with Dan P's they're
Speaker 1: very Patriots, Like they have the veteran secondary. They can
Speaker 1: mix up and confuse bad quarterbacks, you know, into making mistakes.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what they're best that. And then they
Speaker 1: for these games against some of the bad quarterbacks, they
Speaker 1: can look like one of the best defenses in the league,
Speaker 1: and maybe this will be that week. This wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been are as Tannehill way of an upgrade over Mariota,
Speaker 1: but they needed a Charger's apocalypse to even win at
Speaker 1: home last week. So they were coming off four out
Speaker 1: of five losses before that, so it's hard to trust.
Speaker 1: We're also, I'm just saying that game. You know, they're
Speaker 1: a middle of the road team, so they're they're not
Speaker 1: a team that blows too many teams. That a little
Speaker 1: notes shock Barrett still sitting at nine sacks, you know,
Speaker 1: giggling with your you know, it's funny like so you're
Speaker 1: actively rooting against I'm not rooting against him at all. Again, again,
Speaker 1: if we want to actually remember how that's what you
Speaker 1: would want to want to actually remember what happened on
Speaker 1: the show. It was not Shack Barrett specific. It was
Speaker 1: the player that jumps out but then eight sacks, Shack
Speaker 1: won't get to ten. That this is I remember this
Speaker 1: is when he had eight. There's been three games since
Speaker 1: and he has one sack in those three games. Said,
Speaker 1: he's he is like the archetype of someone that would
Speaker 1: finish with nine ever that after that early season want
Speaker 1: him to finish with nine. You're texting us about it
Speaker 1: during the think of course if it comes one of
Speaker 1: those things where if it played out where like it
Speaker 1: would just be another example of shutting you clowns up. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would enjoy it. This guy in California rooting against
Speaker 1: it's not really a Shack Barrett thing. But if it
Speaker 1: played out that way, which I have no control over,
Speaker 1: no more than Greg does with people tweeting about medical scenarios.
Speaker 1: At this point in our society, let us roll with it.
Speaker 1: When have any of us clowns ever? Shut up? Right?
Speaker 1: That won't be happening. One of my favorites a little
Speaker 1: personal but text change though, because Mark's tweeted a texted
Speaker 1: us about it yesterday, I believe what's for the first
Speaker 1: time it was just like shocks still second nine and
Speaker 1: the middle of the day, West said the same reaction
Speaker 1: is what are you? What is that? A questions talking
Speaker 1: about doing my homework in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: I thought I'd remind you before I forgot to remind you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's move on up. Next is
Speaker 1: does this mean I have a snake. I'm ready for
Speaker 1: my first pick. At least maybe I'll use my time
Speaker 1: allotted to get that second pick. Ready that that's what
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL. Sometimes, I'm gonna take the Chargers
Speaker 1: in the Bears. A weird game, but a strangely meaning
Speaker 1: game for the Bears, certainly because I think both these
Speaker 1: teams are hoping that they've hit bottom, and uh, one
Speaker 1: of them obviously hasn't because they're gonna lose on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And at least the Chargers, for the first time in
Speaker 1: a long time, have some good induriners. Yeah, they might
Speaker 1: have lost uh Mike Pouncey for the season. Yeah, might
Speaker 1: a last Forest Lamp for the season, his replacement which
Speaker 1: kind of slipped under the radar. But they did get
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram back at practice this week. Sounds like kill
Speaker 1: be back. They did get Russell o'koung back. He will
Speaker 1: be starting this game at left tackle. That's a massive upgrade.
Speaker 1: And uh, and you have Hunter Henry playing like an
Speaker 1: all pro tight end who you missed for health care
Speaker 1: look at a little a little better. And uh, I
Speaker 1: thought they did some positive things in Tennessee. And I
Speaker 1: certainly don't think they're a cake walk. Uh. I was
Speaker 1: very surprised to see the Bears open this game as
Speaker 1: huge favorites. I just do not see Mitchell Drabinsky leading
Speaker 1: a huge against any reasonable NFL team at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a Bordal situation there. His mechanics are out
Speaker 1: to sink bass Is off. His lower body and upper
Speaker 1: body are disconnected. A lot of back pedaling and throwing
Speaker 1: off his back foot at the slightest sign of pressure,
Speaker 1: like it when West because mechanics in the lab. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean this is he's just broken and their defense
Speaker 1: knew it. By the fourth quarter, they could see their
Speaker 1: effort level had fallen off. And that's what happens when
Speaker 1: you have a Bortles type of situation, broken beyond repair.
Speaker 1: UM member former Bear center Olan Creutz, mark Um vaguely
Speaker 1: cycling backs for the memory of that were like, at
Speaker 1: least we had Creutz. Well, that's what I mean by
Speaker 1: the Bordles situation. Creutz was saying this week that you know,
Speaker 1: the quarterback obviously is the one player in the building
Speaker 1: who can lift everyone up, but he's also the one
Speaker 1: player in the building who can take everyone down with him.
Speaker 1: And that's what's like, how do we know how good
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller is as a football player? Their number two
Speaker 1: or three wide receiver. And look, last week, this was
Speaker 1: not a Trabinsky all on him. They have fumbles by Montgomery,
Speaker 1: fumbles by Miller, Alan Robertson couldn't get get a second
Speaker 1: toe down inbounds on Trabinsky's best throw. It was a
Speaker 1: offense wide collapse last week, very really bad running game,
Speaker 1: and their defense is just not as good. So whether
Speaker 1: it's Hicks or it's Trabinsky, it's still really good. But
Speaker 1: when you go from number one to a team that
Speaker 1: gives up big time yardage to the Raiders and today Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: you're not as good as you were. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Bears are the last team, the last offense that I
Speaker 1: would make excuses for at this point. But I'm almost
Speaker 1: at the point with the Saints defense where okay, let's
Speaker 1: regroup and see what you do this week. But the sts,
Speaker 1: what the Saints did to the Bears, I think the
Speaker 1: Bears defense, to West's point, that locker room is fractured
Speaker 1: right now because they need to realize that, you know,
Speaker 1: they're on the field now for thirty five plus minutes
Speaker 1: a game and their gas by the end when they
Speaker 1: lost to the Raiders. That had something to do with
Speaker 1: the Bears offense just not performing too Matt nags at
Speaker 1: the point where he's got to announce in the middle
Speaker 1: of the week that he's gonna call plays. This is
Speaker 1: about as far removed from the this season's experience the
Speaker 1: Bears fans thought they would get. And I feel bad
Speaker 1: for the fan base because they having a lot of
Speaker 1: upside moments. But you went into the year with a
Speaker 1: shaky quarterback and some shaky skill position operations here and
Speaker 1: playing out. And I wonder if what the Saints did
Speaker 1: is just a continuation of the model of how to
Speaker 1: beat Robiski week week after week, and where his confidence
Speaker 1: will be, because you know, this is a guy that
Speaker 1: only started for one season in college. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: sixty college slash pro starts under his belt to deal with,
Speaker 1: and he's not growing, he's regressing. We have a segment
Speaker 1: on the Power Ranking show I do with Matt money
Speaker 1: Smith called the Voice of the Chargers talks about what's
Speaker 1: wrong with the Chargers without getting fired, and Money's he's
Speaker 1: such a smart guy and he sees everything and he
Speaker 1: was breaking down. What what made uh that last sequence
Speaker 1: of that game such a cluster f near the goal line,
Speaker 1: because not only was their Chargers failures and Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: with brutal play calling giving the ball back to Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon a second time after he nearly fumbled the first time.
Speaker 1: And then he does fumble. But the officials both on
Speaker 1: the floor and upstairs. Uh, and on Park Avenue or
Speaker 1: wherever they do these reviews. Uh, they missed the ten
Speaker 1: second runoff within that sequence. They also Austin Ekeler scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Uh, there was not enough evidence to overturn that.
Speaker 1: And and then and that's pure Chargers and and even
Speaker 1: to Melvin Gordon, he the ball comes out of his
Speaker 1: hand on the first and gold carry, he lands on
Speaker 1: top of it. You could make the argument that should
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. It was just such such a mess.
Speaker 1: But you wonder what happens going forward with Melvin Gordon White.
Speaker 1: I honestly have reached the point where I have just
Speaker 1: I have pity for the guy. I feel for him
Speaker 1: because he comes to the out in the media this
Speaker 1: week and he knows not only is he not getting
Speaker 1: that big paycheck, but now he's public enemy number one
Speaker 1: amongst his fan base and fantasy owners. Arecussions, yes, there are,
Speaker 1: but it's also as a human being. When he comes
Speaker 1: out to me and says, one thing I know is
Speaker 1: I'll never miss another training camp, you sense the guy
Speaker 1: is in a place, in a tough place in his life.
Speaker 1: He's not in shape. Obviously, he doesn't have that explosiveness
Speaker 1: near the goal line. And Anthony Lynn, who's a former
Speaker 1: running backs coach, he wants Melvin Gordon to get that
Speaker 1: game when he touched out, but he's gotta be smarter.
Speaker 1: And you just wonder what Gordon's role is going forward
Speaker 1: um at his current state. And one thing we don't
Speaker 1: know behind the scenes to add to that list is
Speaker 1: the kind of advice he's getting from the people around him.
Speaker 1: If you're Melvin Gordon going into this season where he's
Speaker 1: probably regretting some of the missteps he took based on
Speaker 1: agents and counsel saying this is something, this is something
Speaker 1: that was important to him before he entered the league.
Speaker 1: He came into the league saying I'm going to change
Speaker 1: the way running backs get paid. And I get that
Speaker 1: you're he admitted he wouldn't do it again, but he
Speaker 1: also affected other people's lives. He affected his teammates lives,
Speaker 1: he affected his coaches lives, he affected the owners lives
Speaker 1: by not coming in shape, by not reporting with his teammates.
Speaker 1: And now he's playing like two thousand eighteen Leonard four
Speaker 1: net even before that goal line situation. He's not explosive,
Speaker 1: he's not good, and he's cost himself money instead of
Speaker 1: earning money. It was a bad decision with a lot
Speaker 1: of repercussions, fair, and the coach bears a lot of
Speaker 1: fault for it. We see this in baseball too. This
Speaker 1: is a big part of coaching. You bring a guy
Speaker 1: up from a rehab assignment and he's not what he
Speaker 1: once was, don't play him. It's a little loyal to
Speaker 1: a fall. They pushed a little hard and if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bury Jalen Ramsey. West makes a good point that
Speaker 1: if he comes back, Melvin Gordon comes back, he's got
Speaker 1: to be Melvin Gordon that they need him to be
Speaker 1: in apparently, and the worst thing for the charges because
Speaker 1: we've talked about Melvin Gordon, let us a good trade candidates.
Speaker 1: Send him to Buffalo, send him X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: I mean, thanks to his actual play on the field.
Speaker 1: His stock for a trade could not be lower. Right now,
Speaker 1: whatever they were gonna get is less, Greg, It's time
Speaker 1: to snake all right, Um, I'm gonna go see Hawks.
Speaker 1: Falcon's only two early games left on the board. Chance
Speaker 1: to see Russell Wilson. We don't know if Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: is gonna play in this game. He has not practiced
Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday. Maybe is it worth noting this or not.
Speaker 1: Matt shob moved the offense and scored a touchdown better
Speaker 1: than Matt Ryan did. All us well, you did it,
Speaker 1: you knowed you put so much stock in garbage time.
Speaker 1: I out what an indictment? No Like Greig and I
Speaker 1: have always disagreed on the value of garbage time production,
Speaker 1: and I think it. I think it's actually worse than
Speaker 1: meaningless because it leads you to conclusions that don't mean.
Speaker 1: I don't think the match shop moving matters. I think
Speaker 1: it's hard to to separate out. It is a philosophical thing,
Speaker 1: like what garbage time matters and what doesn't. Because almost
Speaker 1: as equally as a team going up and down the
Speaker 1: field with their backups, things happen like what happened in
Speaker 1: the Jets game where you just keep getting destroyed no
Speaker 1: matter who's on the field, so it's just hard to
Speaker 1: know which one matters. I think there'll be plenty of
Speaker 1: garbage time in this game because the Falcons defense is
Speaker 1: a garbage defense. I mean, them and the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: by far the two worst defenses in the league. And
Speaker 1: as long as Russell Wilson is allowed to throw the ball, uh,
Speaker 1: they're going to be one of the most efficient passing
Speaker 1: attacks in the league. It's crazy that the number two
Speaker 1: passing attack in d v O A is basically Wilson
Speaker 1: and Lockett improvising and then DK Metcalf's three routes like
Speaker 1: that's that's about it, and that's good for numb or
Speaker 1: two in the lake right, and then the other side
Speaker 1: of the ball. They don't have a single player on
Speaker 1: pace for five sacks. They miss like a Cliff Avrol
Speaker 1: or a Chris Clemens, one of those speedy guys coming
Speaker 1: off the edge. And if you can't sack a hobble
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan or a Matt Shop behind this offense offensive
Speaker 1: line with no running game, then you're just a terrible
Speaker 1: pass rushing team. Yeah, Matt Ryan, was you know that
Speaker 1: offensive line is such a liability. They got him hurt
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, that's they he was punished from
Speaker 1: wire to wire. I would like to see a Seahawks game, because, yes,
Speaker 1: they are fun to watch. They are drama queens because
Speaker 1: they're gonna get out down early or keep it too
Speaker 1: close in some of these games, and then you know,
Speaker 1: with magic to lock it, which seems to happen every week,
Speaker 1: they'll pull up stuff out of a hat and get
Speaker 1: close at the end. How about a game like this
Speaker 1: where you're playing an offense that's just an open barn door.
Speaker 1: Get up early and actually run the Schottenheimer offense the
Speaker 1: way he'd like to, which is panneling people with the
Speaker 1: run late versus this late nonsense. I'm not sure they're
Speaker 1: they're any better than they were a year ago. They've
Speaker 1: played seven games, they've lost convincingly twice, they've won convincingly once,
Speaker 1: and they've won four times at the buzzer. I mean
Speaker 1: that's you know, the ball bounced a little better than
Speaker 1: they were a year ago. But they're just kind of
Speaker 1: that sort of team. Well, it feels like they're passing
Speaker 1: game is better, but they're running game is much worse.
Speaker 1: Than it was. Later got to recognize it though, when
Speaker 1: he said that when he took criticism from missing the
Speaker 1: long field goal last week, it was on fourth and
Speaker 1: three of fifty three yard or that his plan was
Speaker 1: if he didn't go for the field goal, they would
Speaker 1: have punted it. And he said, because that's who we are.
Speaker 1: We're a defense and running team. We punt it there.
Speaker 1: But you're not. Your defense is below average, your running
Speaker 1: game is below average in terms of efficiency. Your offense
Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean you're passing the tax awesome. Lean
Speaker 1: into that your quarterback is an m VP candidate because
Speaker 1: largely the passing success. I will say that, yes, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of close games with the Seahawks is the
Speaker 1: reason why the Seahawks win a lot of close games.
Speaker 1: It's not always a coin flips because Russell Wilson as
Speaker 1: good as that as an doing it for a decade. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, Chris Westling. Okay, with where
Speaker 1: you're coming up in the draft today, I am I'm
Speaker 1: not okay. What's what's left to pick from it? I
Speaker 1: will take for the first time all year, the Bengals
Speaker 1: on the road against the Rams. Zach Taylor Sean McVeigh
Speaker 1: in London, back at in London Stadium. This is a
Speaker 1: normal time game. Ten am London pop like speak. We're
Speaker 1: back in the at the six thirty am. Damn oh,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the six thirty. I can pay attention
Speaker 1: to the game. Wood good for you. Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: six wake up call. I mean I'm waking up anyway.
Speaker 1: It's it's Sunday. It's a big football day. You gotta
Speaker 1: get up early, ready to face to face the world.
Speaker 1: He putting leave the egg yolks into the glass and
Speaker 1: just happened to wake up like it. Go ahead like
Speaker 1: Christmas morning. You got a whole day of football aheady,
Speaker 1: just like Christmas morning. You're a lucky man. Us uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about the Bengals, like
Speaker 1: you can't. I think I disagree with Mark and I
Speaker 1: don't think you can evaluate Andy Dalton. You just can't
Speaker 1: evaluate him behind this offensive line with the worst rushing
Speaker 1: attack we've ever seen, throwing to an injured wide receiver
Speaker 1: corps in a new offense. I just we know what
Speaker 1: he is after all these years. I don't think he
Speaker 1: got worse. I think he's the same quarterback when everything
Speaker 1: else got worse. I want to look at it. I
Speaker 1: can understand the Bengals say, let's keep a G Green.
Speaker 1: If you're Zach Taylor especially, you're coming in and you think, okay,
Speaker 1: if I can just get a J greenback, Tyler Boyd,
Speaker 1: if we get John Ross back at some point Joe
Speaker 1: Mix and Gio Bernard look at the weapons, I suddenly
Speaker 1: have I understand a coach saying that Cordie Glenn returned
Speaker 1: to practice autent tate making like three or four great
Speaker 1: catches every week. Now it's it's right. I do think
Speaker 1: you can say that it's trending towards the end of
Speaker 1: an era, though, that they will move on from him
Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like it's a great match. And
Speaker 1: maybe it was just the green from uh Dondy Dalton
Speaker 1: after this year, but maybe it was just like the
Speaker 1: emotion of it. But the end of that game, the booing,
Speaker 1: like the the windy, half empty stadium, like where you
Speaker 1: could actually hear, you could hear, you could hear the
Speaker 1: the individuals different you know, timbers of their voice booing
Speaker 1: into the the see it just felt so like late
Speaker 1: December and ugly and just felt like this is ending. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My only call is for a new era, like let's
Speaker 1: try something new, because a lot of those weapons that
Speaker 1: you listed have been there for a long time, and
Speaker 1: I'm not certain Zach Taylor's the guy to take them over.
Speaker 1: I thought the Rams, you know, I know who they
Speaker 1: were playing last week. It was kind of a nice
Speaker 1: fu game for Jared Goff in the offense to say
Speaker 1: they're not perfect, but you know what, they did everything
Speaker 1: you could have asked. I thought Golf made some really
Speaker 1: nice throws. He is far from uh the dude at
Speaker 1: this point. But after the fire that they were taking,
Speaker 1: they win and they took care of business. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you could have asked the offense to get
Speaker 1: more in Atlantic, Yeah, they got and they and they
Speaker 1: focused on what they do well, which is those three receivers.
Speaker 1: They're awesome, and they played a lot of tempo. I
Speaker 1: think it was a little bit of back to basics.
Speaker 1: You'll see that. I think I think you'll see that.
Speaker 1: And then was made to look really good by a
Speaker 1: horrible but let's see some more Darrell Henderson. I've seen
Speaker 1: enough of Girly. I mean, he's a he's a useful
Speaker 1: role player, and he's a their starter. He's a good
Speaker 1: he's a starting running back. But he had a play
Speaker 1: where he had a canyon opened up and it was
Speaker 1: just him in the safety. I forget who was number
Speaker 1: thirty on on Maybe it's demonte Kyzy on the falcon
Speaker 1: and it was just what West said. He didn't try
Speaker 1: to make a miss. He kind of burrowed and just
Speaker 1: went down. And when Darrell Henderson comes in, he doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he knows where he's going, but he's going
Speaker 1: there fast with a lot of power. Let's see more.
Speaker 1: I agree. I last thought in this game is people
Speaker 1: are teeing off on Jared Goff because I think he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys that people liked to tee off on.
Speaker 1: But if your offensive line of public ads, maybe maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: But if your offensive line goes from an A to
Speaker 1: a C overnight and maybe worse, and your superstar running
Speaker 1: back goes from a super duperstar too, what did you
Speaker 1: call him a piece a role player? There's not going
Speaker 1: to be this the idea now Jared Goff is maybe
Speaker 1: not a superstar, and maybe people are are puffing out
Speaker 1: their chest that I always that he wasn't a superstar,
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of us were under the
Speaker 1: impression that he was a good quarterback in a great system,
Speaker 1: and now that he's playing poorly, it's not necessarily because
Speaker 1: he's terrible, it's because things have changed a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: not giving up on this team at all, especially with
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. I think they can be a factor. Golf
Speaker 1: is terrible. I don't think we need to go there.
Speaker 1: But he was an m v P canndy a year ago.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, Dan, I think that a virtual
Speaker 1: that guy. But from the beginning there was also if
Speaker 1: anything that nagged Goff if he was a superstar in waiting,
Speaker 1: was that it was just Sean McVeigh teen him up
Speaker 1: at the at the at the line of scrimmage play
Speaker 1: after playing making Because it's people that don't know enough
Speaker 1: about football, it's fair to wonder, like, what's his ceiling?
Speaker 1: You know, he's still only can he be a consistent
Speaker 1: top five quarterback? I don't know if many people have
Speaker 1: on the road and win, right, is there there's some
Speaker 1: people that have believed he's had that in him throughout
Speaker 1: and five is superstar? Right? No one in this podcast
Speaker 1: has been like that. Can he be a very functional
Speaker 1: top twelve type of guy and win a lot of games. Sure,
Speaker 1: all right, let's close out the draft portion of proceedings here. Um,
Speaker 1: I kind of get bailed out here. I get a
Speaker 1: late game. I was worried that West is going to
Speaker 1: go after his Broncos, but I guess they were so
Speaker 1: bad last time we saw him on Thursday Night Football.
Speaker 1: That West. The Colts bore me to tears. It took
Speaker 1: me six tries to finish that game. So the cults, uh,
Speaker 1: they welcome the Denver Broncos to Lucas. I'll stay an
Speaker 1: early game, though, Raiders test a late game, yes, uh,
Speaker 1: and I believe I wanted to, but then I'd have
Speaker 1: three early games. Am I Do I have this wrong?
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at the weekend schedule, I believe you
Speaker 1: need to be Yeah, you're looking that that appears. I
Speaker 1: think they moved the time of the game. You need Oakland,
Speaker 1: Oakland at Houston. Read the research manual. There you go.
Speaker 1: This is great podcasting. But yes, it's a ten am game.
Speaker 1: But I'm not crazy. This also has they moved the
Speaker 1: time of the game, and I'll be absorbing that. Well.
Speaker 1: If I'm getting a one pm either way, I'm moving man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Mark to Oakland at Houston. Yeah, no, because
Speaker 1: I whenever I could watch. I've said this before Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson on a Sunday. I'm watching Deshaun Watson on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: And the Raiders they're not a great team, but if
Speaker 1: you watch even the Packers game where they ended up
Speaker 1: dropping getting a forty burger dropped on them, if they
Speaker 1: execute a little bit better in the red zone. I
Speaker 1: believe there was three trips of the red zone that
Speaker 1: ended with no points. I'm not saying they were ever
Speaker 1: going to beat the Packers because Aaron Rodgers was simply
Speaker 1: too great in that game, but that game had a
Speaker 1: chance to be a lot more competitive. Um and maybe
Speaker 1: that's because the Raiders aren't good enough to execute, But
Speaker 1: I also think we've seen enough from them there where
Speaker 1: they had an off day in terms of the red zone.
Speaker 1: I think they could go to Houston and absolutely compete.
Speaker 1: I did. I did think about locking up the Texans
Speaker 1: just because Houston UH is coming off that tough loss
Speaker 1: at Indy and they are another team that I think
Speaker 1: if they bring their a game and they're at home,
Speaker 1: they're pretty tough to be And I think that's the
Speaker 1: version of the Texans we see, and I think the
Speaker 1: Texans do go away with a w here. The people
Speaker 1: in the desert think this is a pretty uh nice
Speaker 1: set up for Houston for what it's worth. So I
Speaker 1: do like the Texans in this game, but I would
Speaker 1: not discount this being another one of those close games
Speaker 1: because Houston seems to like to play those, and the
Speaker 1: Raiders aren't getting They're not getting wiped out very often
Speaker 1: the season. The Texans, that's what they've been doing. All
Speaker 1: one score games has been their recipe week after week.
Speaker 1: I thought the Cults loss was rough and under the
Speaker 1: radar rough because of just some lost opportunities that the
Speaker 1: the in the grasp call into Shaun Watson, which that
Speaker 1: that is a the way that's called when it is,
Speaker 1: it does never feel it never feels very consistent to me.
Speaker 1: It feels subjective to subjective based on who's on the field.
Speaker 1: That ripped a touchdown away from them that should not
Speaker 1: have been, I thought. And then they got deep down
Speaker 1: into the Colt's red zone again and were forced to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal when they should have scored. I mean,
Speaker 1: little things like that near the goal line hurt the
Speaker 1: Texans a lot last week. In another world, they win
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, they were just as talented, I
Speaker 1: thought as as the Colts were. Their secondary can't cover anyone,
Speaker 1: Jared J. J. Watts hitting the quarterback six times, and
Speaker 1: the quarterback has the best game of his life. J J.
Speaker 1: Watts coming I mean he is. He is coming on strong,
Speaker 1: and you could hear it in his voice when he
Speaker 1: talked this week, he basically said he thought it was
Speaker 1: the best game he's played since he's come back from
Speaker 1: all those injuries going back four years, and I think
Speaker 1: it looked like it. He's been getting better each week.
Speaker 1: But the cornerbacks are are so bad that that the
Speaker 1: Texans participated in what, as I thought about it was
Speaker 1: maybe one of the most disrespectful trades in NFL history.
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders said, hey, Gary and Conley, we
Speaker 1: uh weird disrespect you so much. We want you to
Speaker 1: play for the team that we're playing against this week
Speaker 1: so that we can throw it all over you. We
Speaker 1: don't want to wait a week. We want to throw
Speaker 1: on Gary and Conley right now. That is uh pretty bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, people say trade in your division, how about
Speaker 1: you trade him and play him the next week. Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs says, you got the practice this week, and their
Speaker 1: entire offense is based on him if you read between
Speaker 1: the lines on the way Romo was announcing last week.
Speaker 1: If they don't get an early lead and lean on it,
Speaker 1: they're done as an offense. Well there him and Darren
Speaker 1: Wall are you? Jon Gruden's you know, feeling himself. He's
Speaker 1: doing an awesome job. They are eighthan efficiency on options
Speaker 1: with Trevor Davis, Keelan Dawson, renfro as their top three
Speaker 1: receivers right now, Tyrone Williams should return. Their offensive lines incredible.
Speaker 1: It might be the very best offensive line in the
Speaker 1: league now that Gabe Jackson and Trent Brown looks like
Speaker 1: he's going to be back to their dangerous That's what
Speaker 1: I thought about locking up texting too. But I just
Speaker 1: think the Raiders play this weird old school slow style
Speaker 1: with three tight ends in a fullback. But they score
Speaker 1: and that leads to a lot of like offensive led
Speaker 1: games that are close at the end. I could see
Speaker 1: that happening Sunday. All right, Mark, close it out the
Speaker 1: draft portion of this, All right, Well, I will take
Speaker 1: the much bally Hood Broncos at cults game that you
Speaker 1: you know that's going to go down in the in
Speaker 1: the history of our drafts, is maybe a missed opportunity
Speaker 1: for you. Did you had, you had it in your
Speaker 1: wheelhouse and you let it go. How many Stone Pony
Speaker 1: tweets are gone? I'm not gonna be tweeting up a
Speaker 1: storm about about Joe Flacco because I think as a nation,
Speaker 1: right we came to a conclusion and you wrapped that
Speaker 1: up perfectly last Thursday night to there's no more. There's
Speaker 1: what more is there to say about some of these
Speaker 1: guys that are just lodged in these positions and you
Speaker 1: can feel the end creeping close that they you know
Speaker 1: they've given away at this point. Emmanuel Sanders, I think
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton every week does something great for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Uh DeShawn Hamiltons have a bigger role there. Their offense
Speaker 1: to me is just you gotta wait till next year. There,
Speaker 1: you're stuck with this because Drew Lock is not When
Speaker 1: you have John Elway coming down saying this would be
Speaker 1: the time to throw to give us Drew Lock, he's
Speaker 1: not ready. You can tell Vic Fangio was not on
Speaker 1: the Drew Lock train in general, and so he's he
Speaker 1: probably does not want to flip away from Flacco, no
Speaker 1: matter how bad he looked. The Colts. To me, Ry
Speaker 1: remind me of a little bit. I look at the
Speaker 1: Eagles and I say, why can't the coaching staff coach
Speaker 1: up the parts on offense to look better than they do?
Speaker 1: I look at the Cults and I feel like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of middle range dudes they're outside of, like
Speaker 1: a t Y Hilton that Frank Wright coaches up. Every week.
Speaker 1: They get open guys like Zach Pascal, you know. They
Speaker 1: To me, it's week after week. It's not stars, and
Speaker 1: they they outshine the parts on the roster, and the
Speaker 1: Cults to me, are gonna be there at the end
Speaker 1: because of the way they're coached. Why was Jake bres
Speaker 1: Brisket not getting your pajamas moving? What's up of that?
Speaker 1: This is an extraordinarily, extraordinarily well coached team. Um Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissette plays a very boring style of football. To me,
Speaker 1: I can't remember any of the great throws he made.
Speaker 1: None of them stand out. I think this is the
Speaker 1: product product you get when you're best player by far
Speaker 1: as a guard. It's just not that fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I I like watching them because Frank wreck in the
Speaker 1: red zone. Frank Wreck in the red Zone is like
Speaker 1: a weekly Buddy comedy. You don't know what he's gonna
Speaker 1: come out with. He's gonna come up with something. Guys
Speaker 1: are wide open. He comes up with these crazy plays
Speaker 1: and they're one of the best red zone teams. He
Speaker 1: creates open receivers. Prissette did have a couple of nice
Speaker 1: deep outs in that last game. He's got plenty of
Speaker 1: arm and there's no question about that. But all six
Speaker 1: of their games have been one score. So there you
Speaker 1: said you wanted to see the Seahawks win, you know, convincingly.
Speaker 1: I like if if we do think the Cults are
Speaker 1: gonna be there at the end, and I had them
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, so did you, Mark? And yet you
Speaker 1: know before the season starts. Yet I don't feel any
Speaker 1: better now than I did then, even at four and two,
Speaker 1: because that the margins so slim go beat the Broncos
Speaker 1: commit that holds that whole AFC South has that issue.
Speaker 1: Don't they feel like the ultimate tenant six team? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like they're closer to five hundred to me
Speaker 1: eight ten six in the NFL is a razor than margin.
Speaker 1: Broncos defense is up to fifth in d v O A.
Speaker 1: Now they're good. They are good, and I would think
Speaker 1: the Colts were right for an upset, but no offense
Speaker 1: will find a way to blow it. I have never
Speaker 1: seen a player make as many mistakes in two months. Boy,
Speaker 1: I think, is it kill? He's the trojan horse sent
Speaker 1: to get Alway fired. He's like the trojan Bronco. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know. This guy makes several mistakes every single week.
Speaker 1: If our listeners are curious whether the intensity of West
Speaker 1: is um antipathy for you know, no Ah fan, you
Speaker 1: know goes down at all watching games, No, it goes up.
Speaker 1: And watching the Broncos with the West was specially. I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, this guy's can improve. He's a f Trump pick.
Speaker 1: I'll get better. He gets worse every week. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to Sunday night football on this one
Speaker 1: hurts because we had the game of the year potentially
Speaker 1: set up, and perhaps it will still be a fun
Speaker 1: game because the Chiefs at home in prime time. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna roll over, but they're also not gonna have
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, who was out with that knee injury that
Speaker 1: he suffered last Thursday UM against the Broncos. So it
Speaker 1: will be Matt Moore, right, we haven't officially. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are trying to make playing that he took some second
Speaker 1: team raps and that there's a chance. When you look
Speaker 1: at the video that they put out there, I mean
Speaker 1: he's like kind of limping around there and not. I
Speaker 1: mean we would not we would not anyway to take
Speaker 1: a leap medically, we would not keep out. I'm going
Speaker 1: off raps who says he's not playing. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's three weeks and then the by. Greg, I think
Speaker 1: it's just safe just to came out through the by.
Speaker 1: I actually think there he has one right before the bye.
Speaker 1: There you go. They might get Chris Jon back though,
Speaker 1: which is a huge uh addition, and they might get
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher, their left tackle back. This does feel like
Speaker 1: a game that the Packers should win. Uh West do
Speaker 1: you have? Is there any way to spin it where
Speaker 1: you think the Chiefs pull this out if they don't
Speaker 1: have their m v P. No. And I don't even
Speaker 1: think they pull it out even if Mahomes plays, because
Speaker 1: they'll be so he'll be so limited against Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: in the zone. This version of Mahome's not healthy. I'm
Speaker 1: not like trusting the Chiefs defense has suddenly flipped a
Speaker 1: switch on because they had one great night in Denver,
Speaker 1: and right now Aaron Rodgers is an elevated sports experience
Speaker 1: to watch him play. This is This is the Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers that we were watching three or four years ago
Speaker 1: when he was at the top of his game. And
Speaker 1: I'm willing to sacrifice the Cowboys any other team to
Speaker 1: keep this Packers team healthy the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: They will be my number one pick in every chance
Speaker 1: I get to for our Thursday exercises. This is the
Speaker 1: team they're gaining strength. Romo was effusive in the way
Speaker 1: he'd describe that that Rogers and La Flour are getting
Speaker 1: used to each other. They're just now hitting o scride.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is awesome. Once Davante Adams gets back, good
Speaker 1: luck he's doing this. Rogers did this last week against
Speaker 1: the Raiders with a receiving corps that had a combined
Speaker 1: to leven touchdowns in their career. We are right back
Speaker 1: where we started with Aaron Rodgers in the past. You
Speaker 1: know what, But the difference is is that I am
Speaker 1: I I can get behind the whole Mike Petton experience.
Speaker 1: The team to me feels different. It is entirely than
Speaker 1: the operation from a few years ago, where you're you
Speaker 1: knew some drama was going to happen down the stretch.
Speaker 1: I thought they did give up a couple of big
Speaker 1: pass plays against Oakland last week. Their defense is not
Speaker 1: Saints level today than any Packers in anie Packers game
Speaker 1: in four years. Darnell Savage is practicing fully this week
Speaker 1: and should should be playing. He's he's been big in
Speaker 1: their back end, but was out the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: And your boy Robert Tanyan's back. They do have a
Speaker 1: lot of good injury news. All right, let's move to
Speaker 1: Monday night football. Uh, here's a stinker. That's just a
Speaker 1: bad game watching if you want. It's part of the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know, every NFL game is is great. By the way,
Speaker 1: it looked bad when they put the schedule together. All right,
Speaker 1: it never looked great, but now it looks even worse.
Speaker 1: You got the Dolphins nil and six traveling to Hines
Speaker 1: Field to face Mason Rudolph and the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
Speaker 1: Steelers coming off to buy Uh, looking to have a
Speaker 1: pulse in the a f C North, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: the Ravens seem right now to be the clear best
Speaker 1: team in that division. The Browns are an enigma at
Speaker 1: this point. The Steelers, though, if they can get this
Speaker 1: win and get to three and four, at least stay
Speaker 1: on the periphery. But that's about as much as I
Speaker 1: could say about them. I'm stunned to read the optimism
Speaker 1: from the Steelers beat writers about how this team is
Speaker 1: going to finish like Ed Buchett and there's one other one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were I wrote a couple a couple. They really
Speaker 1: see them as like, well, they're like a nine nine
Speaker 1: win type of nine, a ten win type of team.
Speaker 1: And I know James Conner looked better before the vibe.
Speaker 1: But they also lost Stefan to it, who, along with
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, has been their best defensive player and
Speaker 1: he's out for the season. We never really hit that one,
Speaker 1: and that is a huge loss for I thought too,
Speaker 1: it was playing as well as any defensive end in
Speaker 1: the league, and this defense was really hitting it stride.
Speaker 1: It's a great defense, or it's a very good defense.
Speaker 1: I think the defense will still dominate this game. It's
Speaker 1: by far the best unit in this game. Even you
Speaker 1: know you got you're probably gonna have Fitzpatrick on Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: crime in this one. T J. Watts still like that
Speaker 1: little Minca versus. Ryan didn't even think of the Minca mink.
Speaker 1: The revenge game. Revenge game. I mean, this was the
Speaker 1: ultimate revenge for the Dolphins would although I guess they
Speaker 1: would hurt their own pick if they win, so that
Speaker 1: defeats the best revenge upon themselves because because in theory,
Speaker 1: you know, they could they could make the Steelers record worse,
Speaker 1: which helps the pick they ow't you know, they also
Speaker 1: have the Steelers pick either way. They let me try
Speaker 1: to sell this game, U two fans. You know in
Speaker 1: August when the Hall of Fame game or preseason games
Speaker 1: on and you miss football so much that you watch
Speaker 1: it and it could not mean less in the starters
Speaker 1: play one series or two or not at all. Well,
Speaker 1: enjoy every sandwich, as once taught us, uh Martin, this
Speaker 1: is a football game that counts, and the Dolphins playing
Speaker 1: better and the Steelers are trying to stay in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Here's one here. I know you don't want to think
Speaker 1: that Dolphins are interesting here's the thing. Who are you
Speaker 1: talking to? You can talk to anybody that every week
Speaker 1: he tries to get us interested in the do who
Speaker 1: aren't even interested in now? And this has happened now
Speaker 1: it's been getting closer every week when they get when
Speaker 1: they're getting close to a win, it's like Twitter starts buzzing, Oh,
Speaker 1: is this the week they're really gonna get Like when
Speaker 1: they if they win a game, or when they if
Speaker 1: they get down to the last five minutes, it feels
Speaker 1: more monumental then if the Bengals do it. Twitter has
Speaker 1: stopped picking on Kirk Cousins for twenty seconds. Isn't a
Speaker 1: cell because that's all Twitter does is talk about Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins all game, all Sunday. I'm to be locked in
Speaker 1: from wire to wire in this. We're not gonna take
Speaker 1: my eyes off it. All right, So there you go.
Speaker 1: That is the preview of Week eight. Come back later
Speaker 1: tonight check in on your podcast download source of choice.
Speaker 1: We apologize the Matt More. You know, I didn't even
Speaker 1: get a mention here in his triumphant return. We but
Speaker 1: we ran out of time at late in the show.
Speaker 1: He'll get it when he and Andy Reid Andy Reid
Speaker 1: exact revenge on the Packers. Me and the Sizzler will
Speaker 1: talk Redskins at Vikings tonight in the Midi Pod and
Speaker 1: then on Sunday in the Flagship Show, will go all
Speaker 1: go all over the games, go over the games that
Speaker 1: we just previewed. And one last note, someone from our
Speaker 1: team here in NFL Media, Andy ken Off, who's a
Speaker 1: tape operator and a guy behind the scenes that works
Speaker 1: on this show and many others. Uh. He was in
Speaker 1: a motorcycle accident um recently and he suffered some serious injuries.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be okay, but he's laid up right now,
Speaker 1: and so we send our wishes best wishes uh to
Speaker 1: Andy because that sucks, and we hope that he gets
Speaker 1: well soon and gets back to work. Most importantly, back
Speaker 1: to work, Andy, Let's get you into the building. That's
Speaker 1: what we need. But uh, yeah, best wishes to Andy
Speaker 1: and his whole family. Smart moved by Andy though, to
Speaker 1: stay on top of the league by listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1: He wants. He wants to full around the NFL experience,
Speaker 1: all right and get well soon. All right. This is
Speaker 1: Dan hands a signing off four. The Quiet Storm, The Mailman,
Speaker 1: The Old Boss Rick Holiday behind the glass, ND Bartlett,
Speaker 1: the whole team back there, Hey Christie Till sunday e