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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is the highest paid on

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Speaker 1: the San Diego Gray Beers. Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United States

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Speaker 1: and Rein Corps. My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joining in the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Roseal. What is U poise? Hey? Dan? A

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Speaker 1: reminder to the listeners of the show, loyal listeners that

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Speaker 1: this is streaming live this Thursday show every Thursday at

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com and also on YouTube. M Did I

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Speaker 1: nail that? Ricky? You killed it? Later on YouTube if

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Speaker 1: you miss it, yes, and if you on dot com

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Speaker 1: simply a much more effective platform than NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Thereat they'll be like Cam Newton died, Cam Newton died,

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Speaker 1: There's like little trolls. It's so great to be clear,

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Speaker 1: this is a news program. Cam Newton is doing great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kept practice. He's doing great. But he's certainly alive

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Speaker 1: his career. Perhaps no, that's even too strong, but it

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Speaker 1: is at a time of transition. Cam Newton at the crossroads,

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Speaker 1: breaking news. What is the breaking? Cam Newton is alive?

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Speaker 1: Don't say that This isn't a news show first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: or a news show that will generate its own news.

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Speaker 1: There was nothing new there at all, just fibbs and

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Speaker 1: corrected fibbs. So yes, a reminder that next week, if

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Speaker 1: you want to watch us live, you could do so,

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Speaker 1: or you can even do the move. Now you can't

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Speaker 1: do that. See now I'm getting wrapped. It's all getting

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Speaker 1: wrapped up Sunday night. You can do it Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: It starts right after Sunday Night football ends, right our

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Speaker 1: recap show. But I have the idea of you could

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Speaker 1: stream it on YouTube, give us the numbers and then listen.

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Speaker 1: But you certainly could do But you can't do that. Lie.

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Speaker 1: You better be hitting both platforms. But here's an idea,

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Speaker 1: because Dan, you and I will be covering is scintillating

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Speaker 1: Vikings Redskins game later this evening. Someone could listen to

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Speaker 1: version of the show. Correctly. After speaking of the garage,

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Speaker 1: Mark and I, after we do the Thursday Night Slammer

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Speaker 1: and my bosom buddy Bobby Castron, we are going to

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Speaker 1: do a throwback podcast where Mark talks about the songs

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Speaker 1: of his love life prior to meeting his wife and

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Speaker 1: sure it's going to be, uh really a journey through

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Speaker 1: your heart. A little nervous, so check that out. That

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Speaker 1: will be up tomorrow. Shameless pluck. All right now sounds exhausting.

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Speaker 1: It's like going back through your personal attic for a while.

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Speaker 1: the old pictures and things like, well, well, Greg, I

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Speaker 1: Nothing's better than Camp Jewel when Mark, When Mark has

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Speaker 1: to the games. All of the week eight games coming up, UM,

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Speaker 1: on the subreddit. I did an A M A yesterday

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Speaker 1: You did a good job with that. I I filed

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Speaker 1: a question that you actually even responded to I did.

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Speaker 1: It was something about you being hot or something I

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Speaker 1: Ricky our former producer, uh La sid who you know.

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Speaker 1: I miss her every day. She's just awesome. But that's

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Speaker 1: not the point. The point is she once did an

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Speaker 1: A M A. The NFL subreadit, and uh you should

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Speaker 1: for clarifying that that's the road to victory, I mean,

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Speaker 1: year when that big, big article came out with all

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Speaker 1: of these offensive players in the Eagles questioning the quarterback

429
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Speaker 1: and he's coming off his worst game of the year.

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Speaker 1: Before that game, I think most people would say he's

431
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Speaker 1: been a top five quarterback this year, and yet uh

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Speaker 1: Aghilar and mac hollins have been two of the worst

433
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Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus and

434
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Speaker 1: the Game Film uh All, Sean Jeffrey and Zach Hurts

435
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Speaker 1: are underperforming relative to last year. Neither one seems very happy.

436
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's calling people out. Jeffrey is the subject of

437
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Speaker 1: a snitch report by a Philly reporter who said he

438
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Speaker 1: was the source for Josina Anderson complaining about Carson Wentz Is.

439
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Speaker 1: These veterans just don't seem to warm up to him.

440
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Speaker 1: It's it's what's happening in Philly right now is what

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Speaker 1: you see with like bad teams that are going down

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Speaker 1: in a sinkhole, and I don't I'm I am also

443
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Speaker 1: optimistic they can get it together. But here's another thing

444
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Speaker 1: they did the last couple of weeks. They've released a

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Speaker 1: player that they started on Sunday the following Monday, two

446
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Speaker 1: weeks in a row. That is something that like bad

447
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: teams are kind of due to send Za Brown and

448
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Speaker 1: then last week it was Orlando scandal. If you've got

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Speaker 1: to start him and play him seventy snaps in the

450
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Speaker 1: game and you're benching your second round pick from a

451
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, healthy, he wasn't even healthy scratch.

452
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Speaker 1: He was active, and you won't even let Sidney Jones

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Speaker 1: off the bench because of another punitive benching and then

454
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Speaker 1: you cut him the next day. Something's something's weird there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Something is weird. They're trying to clean

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Speaker 1: up the locker room, is what it sounds like. I'm

457
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Speaker 1: at the point where Sean McDermott, and we've been Sean

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Speaker 1: mcdermock fans ever since he visited the show and was

459
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Speaker 1: an absolute delight when we were with him in the

460
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Speaker 1: owner's meetings. But I got on that, well, that was smart,

461
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Speaker 1: but that was a wise ten minutes by hit by

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Speaker 1: that head coach. I think other head coaches should similar paths.

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Speaker 1: But I trust him more than Doug Peterson right now,

464
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Speaker 1: and I trust the way the bills are run from

465
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Speaker 1: head to toe and this though at the same time,

466
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Speaker 1: I feel like Josh Allen, who you look at a

467
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Speaker 1: lot of metrics, is one of the is a bottom

468
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Speaker 1: barrel quarterback, to your point, a bottom five quarterback in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I'm I'm not giving up on

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Speaker 1: him on any level because there's a lot to like

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Speaker 1: if he can get some of it. Kind of hemmed in,

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Speaker 1: but this is a game where I think he can

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Speaker 1: generate some points and from the Eagles side, and I

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Speaker 1: think you mentioned it West, that is, if this was

475
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Speaker 1: an offense that hinged entirely around the return of DeShawn Jackson,

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Speaker 1: he will be back in this game. They were spicy,

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I read that they that he's he's

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Speaker 1: he's heading in that direction. They were spicy when they

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Speaker 1: played the Redskins in Week one in the second half

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Speaker 1: when d Jacks was the deep threat for them. They

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Speaker 1: have not had that with what mac hollands stepping into

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Speaker 1: that role they have, They've missed that and Nelson agen

483
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Speaker 1: vertically and that's all he wants. That's when Smiths throws

484
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Speaker 1: down the field last week. If he has a weakness,

485
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Speaker 1: that's it. Nelson or like all Sean Jeffrey can can

486
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Speaker 1: complain all he wants to whoever. He looks like a

487
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Speaker 1: someone shotgun shotgun from the tight end position from four.

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Speaker 1: To me, he's a big, gigantic, bulky receiver who gives

489
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Speaker 1: no deep option to Wentz. What is around Wentz right now?

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Speaker 1: When they were dominant and he was awesome in m

491
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Speaker 1: v P level, they were destroying people with their ground

492
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Speaker 1: game because they were getting up early and absolutely man

493
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Speaker 1: handling opponents down the stretch. They lost two straight games

494
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Speaker 1: by seventeen or more points because the secondary is a

495
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Speaker 1: total leaky factory. They're an absolute disaster. I preface this

496
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Speaker 1: by saying that I think this is going to be

497
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Speaker 1: a game and it's just more a field than anything else.

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Speaker 1: But what do the Eagles do well right now? Not much?

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Speaker 1: It really made me think what Mark asked the question?

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Speaker 1: They who are they? Who? As their identity? If they

501
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Speaker 1: can't stop to run, If they can't stop the run

502
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Speaker 1: like they didn't last week overall this year they have

503
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Speaker 1: and they're not strong up front, like on on the

504
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Speaker 1: offensive line, then who are they? You're right? And Deshan

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Speaker 1: Jackson it doesn't look like he's expected the way he

506
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Speaker 1: has not been at practice either day. I read that

507
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Speaker 1: and just you know, just to put it out there.

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Speaker 1: One thing they do well, Dan the quarterback of Superman

509
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Speaker 1: when he gets help. He just hasn't gotten enough help.

510
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Speaker 1: Jordan Howard. There was a line and I forget which writer,

511
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Speaker 1: maybe was Zach Berman in The Athletic, who said, you

512
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Speaker 1: can make the case Jordan Howard is the only player

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Speaker 1: on this team that's outperformed expectations. It's a bald statement. Alright, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you're up. Alright, Well, so I'm not going to take

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Speaker 1: one of the late games because Greg and I will

516
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Speaker 1: be absorbed on the same contest. Me apparently responsibility free

517
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Speaker 1: just watching it with my eyes. But I I am

518
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Speaker 1: plugged in on with what else I don't know. I

519
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Speaker 1: am plugged into this little one pm East Coast ten

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Speaker 1: am West Coast affair Cardinals at Saints. And there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I like this game a lot.

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Speaker 1: Why there's not there's a lot of oare Christian Hackenberg

523
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Speaker 1: comes off the board? And where would you go there? Honestly,

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Speaker 1: where would you before you just throw your ridiculous arrows?

525
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Speaker 1: Where would you go? There's a bunch of junkism ahead,

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Speaker 1: But I hope so because we're about forty What am

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Speaker 1: I supposed to be excited about? Broncos cults, everyone of

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Speaker 1: the has issues here. Let me sell it may be

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Speaker 1: a blood Beth, but I think you have one of

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Speaker 1: the offenses out of Arizona that is improving week to week.

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Speaker 1: They are fun to watch. Kyler Murray is living up

532
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Speaker 1: to the promise, and they watching them against the Giants,

533
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Speaker 1: against another team that had no idea how to deal

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Speaker 1: with what Arizona was thrown at them. They could not

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Speaker 1: stop the ground game. I think Arizona is finding a

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Speaker 1: way because of the way that they separate and spread

537
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Speaker 1: out an offense to have a dangerous run attack. You

538
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Speaker 1: can't even call that like part of their passing attack

539
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Speaker 1: because there's no one around half of these guys to

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Speaker 1: take the ball, especially when they're catching in space. I

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Speaker 1: want to see how the Saints handle it. I think

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Speaker 1: the Saints defense went into Chicago and put the Bears

543
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Speaker 1: on such heavy blast that Chicago goes and loses this week.

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Speaker 1: Their season may essentially be over because the Saints, and

545
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Speaker 1: I mentioned this last week, Week after week they go

546
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Speaker 1: in and whoever they deal with, they expose them and

547
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Speaker 1: create a ton of issues for that team the next

548
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Speaker 1: week with the media with everyone answering there that dominant

549
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Speaker 1: of a defense. Now the Cardinals have a little bit

550
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Speaker 1: less at stake, but Sean First, Cliff Kings break justin.

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Speaker 1: I don't think if the Cardinals went three, four and one,

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Speaker 1: Arizona is going to be set on fire from like

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Speaker 1: border the border. I think people are they realize the

554
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Speaker 1: Bears fans thought the team is racing right into the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, making that game embarrassments. So this game is

556
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Speaker 1: more intriguing than than it looks on paper. To some

557
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm into it. What else do I need to

558
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Speaker 1: do then be into it? I can see why you

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Speaker 1: be into it. It's a nice litmus test game for

560
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals who are beating up on some bad teams.

561
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Speaker 1: But Greg greg Olsen, basically his analysis last week was

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Speaker 1: this team is really hard to defend because you know

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. You just have no idea when

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. With all the fakes, the pre

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00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: snap motion, the jet sweeps, you just don't know what

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Speaker 1: the alignment is gonna lead to once the ball is

567
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Speaker 1: snapped and you see a lot of open spaces in

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Speaker 1: the running game and even in the past Cardinals you're talking, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a test for this Pints, but I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: I would calm down about it. You know, this is

571
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Speaker 1: still a Cardinals offensive. I mean, I just know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a fun game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we haven't mentioned that Drew Brees is likely to return.

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Speaker 1: That is a huge development. It's part of my least

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Speaker 1: favorite trend I've been seeing growing on Twitter, which is

576
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Speaker 1: Twitter takes that players should stay on the bench through

577
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Speaker 1: their bye week. This is a this is a common thing.

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Speaker 1: They're like, I don't think they should push it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he should be sitting during the bye week. Like a

580
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: ton of people have said that about a lot of

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Speaker 1: different injuries this week this year. It's like, you have

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Speaker 1: absolutely no medical information whatsoever. What do you know that

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta stay. Yeah, why don't you play it?

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Speaker 1: And you should sit through the bike? You don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about any of their medical information. Y. There's an

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Speaker 1: extremely easy counter to you on the high horse right right,

587
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Speaker 1: that if he has an injury that was enough to

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Speaker 1: cost him four weeks and you're playing a bad team

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Speaker 1: and you have a chance and that two more weeks

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Speaker 1: of rest. That if your voice was if the goal

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Speaker 1: is to win the Super Bowl and you have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get that extra rest, perhaps not rushed back.

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Speaker 1: This guy's rushed back from all the time and reaggravate

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Speaker 1: them because they came back a week too soonus that

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Speaker 1: I wonder, are you supposed to just stay silent and

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00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: never have any I wonder if the medical professionals with

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Speaker 1: all the information considered that angle. You know, it's Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: If he's healthy, he's playing like if you're if you

599
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Speaker 1: were ready to do a show, you're doing the show.

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Speaker 1: They consider all of that. Of course, they're not going

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Speaker 1: to put him out there unless he can put like

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Speaker 1: you have. Injuries are just not something. I feel like

603
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: I need to have an opinion, right exactly, that's my mind.

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Speaker 1: But must but you it's the It's again, it's you

605
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Speaker 1: taking fans and treating them as if the fans isn't

606
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Speaker 1: like has nothing to do with fans. It's media a

607
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: little too. There are two high flutant. There are certain

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Speaker 1: things when it's a hamstring snagged a play room. I'm

609
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: talking a little about media and people covering the league,

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Speaker 1: mostly that have opinion shows and are on Twitter. That

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Speaker 1: you come out with hot takes about medical stuff. That's

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Speaker 1: all I mean. You shouldn't have a hot you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be like screaming that's Stephen A. Smith about it. I

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Speaker 1: get that. I mean in general that on Twitter that

615
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: it's crazy to play him against the car. But it's

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Speaker 1: not not a foolish. You can have a measured take

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Speaker 1: on it, not withopening in the doctor's room. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: think it's probably smart to have no medical takes, but

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Speaker 1: your you think you're not having this is a medical

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Speaker 1: take that's true. Are suggesting that your concept of medical

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Speaker 1: knowledge supersedes all of ours because you're you're in the know,

622
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Speaker 1: being chilled out mode. I don't know anything. Is my

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Speaker 1: point that none of us know any It's like people

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Speaker 1: operate as if there's a level beyond If the doctors say,

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Speaker 1: you're what more do you need? We who said that

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know anything. You're assuming because

627
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: he's clear that they believes we don't know that. But

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Speaker 1: he may say, because I'm Drew Brees, amn the King

629
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Speaker 1: of f Mountain over there, that I'm playing even if

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Speaker 1: I don't feel all the way back, And they'll say

631
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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, well, we pay you twenty three

632
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year, so we probably want to return

633
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Speaker 1: on our invent investment. But maybe it's better to give

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Speaker 1: it a little bit of My little thing is we're

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Speaker 1: just operating at a deficit of information, which is true

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Speaker 1: of alst everything that we do that extends beyond medical right,

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Speaker 1: it takes like six seven years. I think of covering

638
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Speaker 1: football to learn that you don't almost know anything about

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Speaker 1: how the game works, and a lot of people I think,

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Speaker 1: I think ever never even get Then I would ask

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: you why why I'm just saying the medical Would you

642
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: offer an opinion on anything beyond medical? Why offer I'm

643
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: saying anything that you're trying to measured and you try

644
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: to learn. Thumbs up for Drew Brees. Let's yeah, well done.

645
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, it's time where it's time to snake? Ricky?

646
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Did you do your homework? Oh my god, what an

647
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: angry snake. Here's stupid? All right, Mark, game number two

648
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and again, I think you'll reveal as you dig into

649
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the ladder rounds here that we're not working with a

650
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: ton of magical matchups on paper. Here. I'm going Giants

651
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: Lions because I want I want one more shot at

652
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: the Lions to rescue themselves out of this hole. The Giants,

653
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: to me, at least, are interesting with Daniel Jones. I

654
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: thought that they there's something that Daniel Jones does one

655
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: or two or three things every game that make me

656
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: like him more. And whether it's doing something that Eli

657
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Manning or fill in the blank, aging stone Age pony

658
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback could not do, which is a scapability when

659
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: it gets into troublesometimes, he'll also make He's still making

660
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: killer mistakes. I thought there was a strip sack on

661
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: him last week against the Cardinals and they put a

662
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: ton of pressure on him that was totally inexcusable. That

663
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: like another quarterback with better field vision would not allowed

664
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: that to happen to him. So the Giants are a

665
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: team that the Lions better take advantage of. It sounds

666
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: like will not be in this game, Greg, I'll confirmed

667
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: that with you. On the medical front, I'm not sure

668
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: that that's just what I'm hearing at this point, but

669
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: I I am not going to I'm not gonna say it,

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: but the Lions are banged up. No carry on Johnson.

671
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: Their offense to me, is just simply not the same

672
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: without him. But this is a game. You gotta take

673
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: care of it, huh you to I don't know what

674
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: you're selling to anyone. I thought it was interesting that

675
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: the mat Patricia did a very belichicki ish thing where

676
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: he traded away Quandre Digs, which irritated the Lions locker room,

677
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: including Darius Slaves. Spoke about it to no end, and

678
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: that if you want, if you're gonna do BELICHICKI and things,

679
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna You know, the Patriots just went and picked

680
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: up Justin Bethel. That made everyone happy because he's a

681
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame special teamer. But if you're the Lions,

682
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: you're cutting the other way, and you annoyed your secondary,

683
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: you annoyed your defense. I wonder why the move was made.

684
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Second year in a row, they've kind of thrown up

685
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: a white flag at the trade deadline Golden Tate last year,

686
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: when well, this isn't away flag. They like a younger

687
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: player and he was probably one of the worst starters

688
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: in the league at his position. I'm just saying from

689
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: a lockman man, now you've reached your We've signed Marcus

690
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: Gilchrist off the street section of the season, which never

691
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: works well for any defense out there. So it is

692
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: a bit of a white flag. I wonder if ma

693
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: Patrician Bill Beltick share infot Like, did they call each

694
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: other and talk about the Giants? You know, they Patriots

695
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: just played the Giants. They're like best friends. I played

696
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: the Giants. The Lions play three weeks ago, Like, does

697
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: that happen? I'm just curious about that. There's a lavish

698
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: owners meeting party every year um that takes place at

699
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: a luxury hotel that we are and all media are

700
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: allowed to attend, and it's it's kind of, from a

701
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: people watching perspective, the best, the best party of the

702
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: year to be involved with, because it's the party where

703
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: all the head coaches are there, all the gms, their

704
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: owners milling around. And I think it was not this

705
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: Tariko and friends. Tarriko is there. Everybody's there, and you'll

706
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: see people getting drunk. You'll see coaches stumbling. It's fun times, okay,

707
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: and you don't share that info who you see stumbling,

708
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: but you laugh about it privately. Now sometimes they've they've

709
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: laughed at us. I think at times two. I'm sure

710
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: they have mat Patrician Bill Belichick with their significant others,

711
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: the Great Linda not Belichick. It's Linda Holiday holiday not

712
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: always a holiday with Linda not Rick holiday and Matt

713
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Patricia's wife, I believe, sitting together having a drink laughing.

714
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: This is there's no bitter situation between those two men.

715
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about that a little bit.

716
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: This should be Yeah, they should be a better giants offense.

717
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean they should. They had one against the bad defense,

718
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: they had one good game with Daniel Jones, and they've

719
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: had four terrible games. They're averaging twelve points a game

720
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: on offense over four weeks. I think that's the I

721
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: would guess that's the worst in the NFL. I didn't

722
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: check it, but twelve points a game is hard to do.

723
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: Their defense and special teams are almost outscoring Daniel Jones

724
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: over the last four weeks. You have Evan Ingram back,

725
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: you have se Quon Barkley back. Uh, you should be

726
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: able to move the ball on this line's team. It

727
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: should be a good, like high scoring game. This Lions

728
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: team is gonna have to win shootouts. I think they're

729
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of built for it. But it's tougher without Patricia.

730
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: The guy has a ring as a defensive coordinator. And

731
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: of course we know Belichick's the mastermind there. But this

732
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: team is thirty feet to total defense against the run,

733
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: thirty against the past. Se Kuon Barkley, for what it's worth,

734
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: is practicing in full this week, and he did. He

735
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: looks finally did slightly aggravate the ankle we're told in

736
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: in the loss of the Cardinals. But there's also a

737
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: chance that this could be that great plays too. But

738
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: you've been very nice west of the Lions. Well, those

739
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: things are over. I mean, we have been patient with

740
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: the lines, We've been kind. But if you do not

741
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: win at home against the Giant's team that's going in

742
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: the wrong direction, you will be in You guys are

743
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: a lot You guys are a lot more uh interested

744
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: in the Lions at this point than I am. They

745
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: had their a few weeks where they're interesting. They're done.

746
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: They have a bad defense. They're twenty one in d

747
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: v o A. You said all those other numbers were

748
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: even worse. And the guy they spent five million dollars on,

749
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers, has one sacking, isn't really doing much for them.

750
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't what what is fascinating about this defense? That

751
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: may be a case for Belichick and Patricia did not

752
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: talk as much as Patricia would like to about Trey Flowers,

753
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: who he knew very well. But please all right. Next

754
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: up is the old Zeuser. I will check back in

755
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: with the Jets, who cannot play any worse than they

756
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: played last week on Monday Night Football, and now they

757
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: travel to Jacksonville to face the Jacks. I think the

758
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are what interests me here. It's Sam Donald, who,

759
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: by the way, on top of everything else in that

760
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: game got his footstepped on and they had to remove

761
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: his toneage, which, by the way, is another underrated you

762
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: mono people like have vague teenage memories of having having

763
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: Have you ever had an I've had a fingernail removed?

764
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: It is not it is no fun like that isn't

765
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: personal medical from actual life. But anyway, I don't think

766
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: you should play this week to the point, to the

767
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: point that I kept him out of practice. I believe

768
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: he returned in a limited fashion. Uh today, pretty good

769
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: today there, so he'll be fine. But it's just more

770
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, when it rains, it pours for s darn uh.

771
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: So yes, I want to see the quarterbacks in this game.

772
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: I want to see Donald back um and show some

773
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: fight and show some resolve after what was really, frankly

774
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: a humiliating week for him um, even if he did

775
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: handle it well in the media, and I do think

776
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: he'll bounce back. Although they're getting a road match up

777
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars who trade away Jalen Ramsey and the

778
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: defense gets a lot better um against the Bengals, of course,

779
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: but they played extremely well last week. I want to

780
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: see more from Gardner Minshew. I want to see the game.

781
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: I want to see what everybody's excited about. I want

782
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: to see what you what you love about him Mark,

783
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: because watching him the last two weeks hasn't given me

784
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: a lot of juice. So I think it's kind of

785
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: an important game for him. With Nick Foles, I think

786
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: is still a little bit ways off, but he's got

787
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: to stack a couple of good performances here to justify

788
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: keeping him in the lineup, and Donald needs to show

789
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: everybody that he's not the ghost guy. I think if

790
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: Nick Foles had stayed healthy and played the way Gardner

791
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Minshew has played, the Jags would be very happy with

792
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: that trade. I think Gardner Minshew has been good enough.

793
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: He's been good enough to win, and the difference between

794
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: the two is he's still developing. He can become much better.

795
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: I think you have to stay with him, and you know,

796
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: we got three more weeks still, even tell Fols is eligible.

797
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't fault Gardner Minshew for the Jaguars, only, you know,

798
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: having single digits for two and a half, he leads

799
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: them down on the opening drive last year and they

800
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: fumble at the goal line, and then now all of

801
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, Gardner Minshew is not a good quarterback. He

802
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: has calm feet, like he's so calm in the pocket,

803
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: but then he can also you know make you know,

804
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: make extra time by moving around and doing those little solemns.

805
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't make mistakes. I guess that's what stands out

806
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: to me for a young quarterback. He makes really good decisions.

807
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: He's averaging seven and a half yards pertempt. He has

808
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns and two interceptions. Well, yeah, if Donald had

809
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: those numbers would be going crazy. This was the game

810
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna lock up. I feel really good that

811
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: the Jaguars are just a better team than the Jets. Um.

812
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: I think this is not a good Jaguars defense. It's

813
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: pretty at mediocre uh and basically every metric possible. But

814
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: I do think it's a tricky matchup for a team

815
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: that has offensive line and protection issues. Because Todd wash

816
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: likes to get creative. This is a team that loves

817
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: the blitz, loves to send a lot at you, and

818
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be licking his chops. And I

819
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: just seen too much bad offense from the Jets that

820
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: I trust the bad offense more than I trust the

821
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: one game against the Cowboys, which is really one half

822
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. So I just think the Jaguars just

823
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: a little more sound throughout, and I like them. I'm

824
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: with you the sense that the thing that keeps carrying

825
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: over for New York is bad offensive line play. I

826
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: like to match up for Jacksonville at home, and you

827
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: know I would when it comes to Adam Gaze. And

828
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: I know that number one, you went and you got

829
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Levan Bell, and Levian Bell has been a terrible situation

830
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: as a running back with the quarterback house that've had.

831
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: So I'm not asking for big numbers, but I do

832
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: question if you go back and look at Miami's running

833
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: backs under Adam Gaze and the Adam Gaze experience in general,

834
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: is this the coach that knows how to maximize Levan Bell.

835
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: He hasn't topped seventy yards on the ground or sixty

836
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: in the air all year, and and and you have

837
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: a one of the leagues in theory top weapons, and

838
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: you have Donald Back. You've been I think he's been

839
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: in an impossible situation and he runs hard and he

840
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: makes something out of nothing. And when he had no

841
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: quarterback play at all and Donald was out, um, he

842
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: didn't get do much damage. But the guy plays are

843
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. I went on Twitter and pointed out everybody

844
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: who was lumping this guy in with Antonio Brown. And

845
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: he's been nothing but a good He has nothing to

846
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: do with Antonio brand. But I think, I don't think,

847
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't think anything, all right, But he's been an

848
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: awesome teammate in New York number one, and that's not

849
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: he's been in a bat. I want to see how

850
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: to use him when they have all their parts, and

851
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: because it might be a gaze he lacks. You know,

852
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: Bella is in one of the most talented running backs

853
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: ever and you can see that, and he's running hard.

854
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: I think he lacks a little bit of the explosion

855
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: that he used to. I mean, you have that many runs,

856
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: you have that many plays that you get to the

857
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: second level, you would expect that he would have something

858
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: longer than a thirteen yard run before last week. Now

859
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: I think it's coming along. He's gotten a little better

860
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: each week. But I like Mark saying I want to

861
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: see them use him as a receiver because He's one

862
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: of the best receiving backs that I've ever seen. He

863
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: has ten to the air in the last two games.

864
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's for an offense, especially that is

865
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: dealing with a ton of pocket pressure your quarterbacks under dress.

866
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Throw into your running back is something we're seeing every

867
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: other coach in the league do, and in Gaze at

868
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: some point runs out of excuses. Have your quarterback. But

869
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with I just don't just think he's not.

870
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: I trust the unleash bell at this point. Prove me wrong. Um.

871
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I also want to point out Mark A. Greg on

872
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: injury corner. C J. Mosley was deemed well enough to

873
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: play on Monday, and on the first drive he's limping

874
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: along the plane of the goal line, and now Gays

875
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: announces on Thursday that they have to do a quote

876
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: deep dive on what's going on with his grind. He's done.

877
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: You could, I could book it. He's gonna be on

878
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: i R probably before this podcast is over, so you

879
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: essentially and who knows, maybe he's back in four weeks,

880
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: but the season is basically lost. And that was a

881
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: centerpiece signing of the off season. Well they have it

882
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: gets hurt in week one and have an easy schedule

883
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: coming up. You were saying even a week ago, even

884
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: if they lose the Patriot, well, but it's just it

885
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: only counts once and its standings lost his count more

886
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: than that, I don't have any more faith. That was

887
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: a psychologically jarring defeat, right And when you're on the

888
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: other end of that as a fan, you feel that

889
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: a little bit more in this week and then it

890
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: erases it. But if you don't win this week, you know,

891
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: bye bye. If the Jags are lasting red zone percentage,

892
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: that's one thing where for a running team, you would

893
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: not think they would be the worst team in the

894
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: league in terms of scoring touchdowns in the red and

895
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: so that's why all their games are closed. And honestly,

896
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: with Minshew, his numbers would be much different. They had

897
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: four drives last week that ended in field goals where

898
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: they were nine, ten, eleven. They've done that every week.

899
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Before Monday night, I would have said, this is gonna

900
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: be a great game, and I feel good now. Who knows,

901
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets compete, but I would not be surprised

902
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: if they lose thirty one three either. It's that was

903
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: bad on Monday all right West Europe. Well, I'm risking

904
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: a potential uniform apocalypse in this game, but you know

905
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: it is America's heartland in a grass field, I gotta

906
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: go with my Titans. You know, Buccaneers and Titans. Well,

907
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I have fun. I have fun watching them. I thought

908
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: Tannehill was a massive upgrade on Mariota. Even with a

909
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: few negative plays. They had their highest yards per attempt

910
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: of the year, their best third down percentage of the year.

911
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: They're outside receivers Corey Davis and A J. Brown both

912
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: had their highest catches of the year, and they're head coach.

913
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel came in Monday and could not stop talking

914
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: about tight window throws as if he had never seen

915
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: them before. With Marcus Mariotta under center, it was a

916
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: different offense. You even had a two minute drill in

917
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: there to end the first half. I mean, these are

918
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: things Titans fans just aren't used to seeing. And then

919
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, the first round pick, comes back and, as

920
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: Greg said in the debrief, may have been the best

921
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: player on the field. Albert Haynesworth was raving about him, saying,

922
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: when I looked at this guy, he's worth the in

923
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: didn't look like a rookie, looked like a fifth or

924
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: six year Albert Haynesworth. He it's a good I mean,

925
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: it's easy, I guess because the Titans thing. But that

926
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: was a great comp because he seems so strong along

927
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: with the athleticism that he was overwhelming. I I texted

928
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: a little with DJ about it this week because he

929
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: had called Simmons a top five player in the draft,

930
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: if not for the A C L surgery. And then

931
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: there was also um a sexual assault when he was

932
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: early uh an alleged assault early in his career. There

933
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: was a woman picking on his sister and her children

934
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: and he's step I'm sorry, that should be corrected. And

935
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: that was back in two thousand and sixteen. But the

936
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Combine didn't invite him because of that um. But just

937
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: watching him play, he was a massive difference maker. And

938
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: Tannehill was too. I mean, I think you have these

939
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: receivers Corey Davis and A. J. Brown. There's a chance

940
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: that you get a little more out of him if

941
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: you give him a chance to make those tight catches.

942
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: And who would have thought after all these years, Finally

943
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: we got Mariota Winston in year five to decide it,

944
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: and the winner of that debate is Ryan Tannehill. You

945
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: want Mario, we we uh, we do have a lot

946
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: of evidence on Ryan Tannehill over the course of six

947
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: or seven years. Yeah, I'm not getting to know that

948
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: we've been sucked in by that guy before, too, right, Okay,

949
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: allow me to clarify ahead. I don't think he's any

950
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: kind of long term answer. He's just making the Titans

951
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: more watchable and I'm enjoying it. Let's see, let's see

952
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: what he does against a different defense than the charge

953
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: in a better in a better situation. Think there's a

954
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: case that he's can be adult in like figure adult

955
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: and we've talked about media. Yeah, goes like that, which

956
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: is a little better than I think people think of

957
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: him as He's fine, his his his sitting there at

958
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: the Dalton scale line was the one guy we can

959
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: think that maybe is doing and maybe this year too

960
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: was Dalton doesn't really fit as a Dalton scale at

961
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: this point. But I cannot get out of my own

962
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: mind watching the live we had an assassination on Andy

963
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Dalton by Mark Straight and into a my mind, I

964
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: loved it. Well, I think I'm being extremely fair on

965
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton at this point. I mean, he back to

966
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: back to back intercept. Why do you think you're being fair?

967
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: And he's the same quarterback he's always been. The only

968
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: thing that's changes this around. Hi, why are we talking

969
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton? We can get into Andy Dalton. I mean,

970
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: then let's flip over to Jamis Winston, who totally sabotaged

971
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: his own team a week ago and does it every

972
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: other week. And Greg, you pointed out the Saints game

973
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: where he have had five picks in that game where

974
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: he didn't, And I wonder when the Bucks have you know,

975
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: they don't have someone to throw in there like Ryan

976
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: Tannehill at this point, but the experiment is over. If

977
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: there's anyone trying to tell me that you're going to

978
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: travel into next season with Jamis Winston, you gotta be

979
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: kidding me. Feels very unlikely. And this is the wrong

980
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: team for him to face. I think, because I think

981
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: the Titans what they're good at with Dan P's they're

982
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: very Patriots, Like they have the veteran secondary. They can

983
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: mix up and confuse bad quarterbacks, you know, into making mistakes.

984
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of what they're best that. And then they

985
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: for these games against some of the bad quarterbacks, they

986
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: can look like one of the best defenses in the league,

987
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: and maybe this will be that week. This wouldn't have

988
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: been are as Tannehill way of an upgrade over Mariota,

989
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: but they needed a Charger's apocalypse to even win at

990
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: home last week. So they were coming off four out

991
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: of five losses before that, so it's hard to trust.

992
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: We're also, I'm just saying that game. You know, they're

993
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: a middle of the road team, so they're they're not

994
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: a team that blows too many teams. That a little

995
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: notes shock Barrett still sitting at nine sacks, you know,

996
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: giggling with your you know, it's funny like so you're

997
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: actively rooting against I'm not rooting against him at all. Again, again,

998
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: if we want to actually remember how that's what you

999
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: would want to want to actually remember what happened on

1000
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: the show. It was not Shack Barrett specific. It was

1001
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: the player that jumps out but then eight sacks, Shack

1002
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: won't get to ten. That this is I remember this

1003
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: is when he had eight. There's been three games since

1004
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: and he has one sack in those three games. Said,

1005
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: he's he is like the archetype of someone that would

1006
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: finish with nine ever that after that early season want

1007
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: him to finish with nine. You're texting us about it

1008
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: during the think of course if it comes one of

1009
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: those things where if it played out where like it

1010
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: would just be another example of shutting you clowns up. Yes,

1011
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: I would enjoy it. This guy in California rooting against

1012
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: it's not really a Shack Barrett thing. But if it

1013
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: played out that way, which I have no control over,

1014
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: no more than Greg does with people tweeting about medical scenarios.

1015
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: At this point in our society, let us roll with it.

1016
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: When have any of us clowns ever? Shut up? Right?

1017
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: That won't be happening. One of my favorites a little

1018
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: personal but text change though, because Mark's tweeted a texted

1019
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: us about it yesterday, I believe what's for the first

1020
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: time it was just like shocks still second nine and

1021
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: the middle of the day, West said the same reaction

1022
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: is what are you? What is that? A questions talking

1023
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: about doing my homework in the middle of the day.

1024
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: I thought I'd remind you before I forgot to remind you.

1025
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's move on up. Next is

1026
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: does this mean I have a snake. I'm ready for

1027
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: my first pick. At least maybe I'll use my time

1028
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: allotted to get that second pick. Ready that that's what

1029
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL. Sometimes, I'm gonna take the Chargers

1030
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: in the Bears. A weird game, but a strangely meaning

1031
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: game for the Bears, certainly because I think both these

1032
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: teams are hoping that they've hit bottom, and uh, one

1033
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: of them obviously hasn't because they're gonna lose on Sunday.

1034
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: And at least the Chargers, for the first time in

1035
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: a long time, have some good induriners. Yeah, they might

1036
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: have lost uh Mike Pouncey for the season. Yeah, might

1037
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: a last Forest Lamp for the season, his replacement which

1038
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: kind of slipped under the radar. But they did get

1039
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram back at practice this week. Sounds like kill

1040
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: be back. They did get Russell o'koung back. He will

1041
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: be starting this game at left tackle. That's a massive upgrade.

1042
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: And uh, and you have Hunter Henry playing like an

1043
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: all pro tight end who you missed for health care

1044
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: look at a little a little better. And uh, I

1045
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: thought they did some positive things in Tennessee. And I

1046
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: certainly don't think they're a cake walk. Uh. I was

1047
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: very surprised to see the Bears open this game as

1048
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: huge favorites. I just do not see Mitchell Drabinsky leading

1049
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: a huge against any reasonable NFL team at this point. Yeah,

1050
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: it's it's a Bordal situation there. His mechanics are out

1051
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: to sink bass Is off. His lower body and upper

1052
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: body are disconnected. A lot of back pedaling and throwing

1053
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: off his back foot at the slightest sign of pressure,

1054
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: like it when West because mechanics in the lab. Well,

1055
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean this is he's just broken and their defense

1056
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: knew it. By the fourth quarter, they could see their

1057
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: effort level had fallen off. And that's what happens when

1058
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: you have a Bortles type of situation, broken beyond repair.

1059
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: UM member former Bear center Olan Creutz, mark Um vaguely

1060
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: cycling backs for the memory of that were like, at

1061
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: least we had Creutz. Well, that's what I mean by

1062
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: the Bordles situation. Creutz was saying this week that you know,

1063
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback obviously is the one player in the building

1064
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: who can lift everyone up, but he's also the one

1065
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: player in the building who can take everyone down with him.

1066
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: And that's what's like, how do we know how good

1067
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller is as a football player? Their number two

1068
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: or three wide receiver. And look, last week, this was

1069
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: not a Trabinsky all on him. They have fumbles by Montgomery,

1070
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: fumbles by Miller, Alan Robertson couldn't get get a second

1071
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: toe down inbounds on Trabinsky's best throw. It was a

1072
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: offense wide collapse last week, very really bad running game,

1073
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: and their defense is just not as good. So whether

1074
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: it's Hicks or it's Trabinsky, it's still really good. But

1075
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: when you go from number one to a team that

1076
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: gives up big time yardage to the Raiders and today Bridgewater,

1077
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: you're not as good as you were. I mean, the

1078
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Bears are the last team, the last offense that I

1079
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: would make excuses for at this point. But I'm almost

1080
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: at the point with the Saints defense where okay, let's

1081
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: regroup and see what you do this week. But the sts,

1082
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: what the Saints did to the Bears, I think the

1083
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: Bears defense, to West's point, that locker room is fractured

1084
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: right now because they need to realize that, you know,

1085
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: they're on the field now for thirty five plus minutes

1086
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: a game and their gas by the end when they

1087
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: lost to the Raiders. That had something to do with

1088
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: the Bears offense just not performing too Matt nags at

1089
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: the point where he's got to announce in the middle

1090
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: of the week that he's gonna call plays. This is

1091
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: about as far removed from the this season's experience the

1092
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: Bears fans thought they would get. And I feel bad

1093
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: for the fan base because they having a lot of

1094
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: upside moments. But you went into the year with a

1095
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: shaky quarterback and some shaky skill position operations here and

1096
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: playing out. And I wonder if what the Saints did

1097
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: is just a continuation of the model of how to

1098
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: beat Robiski week week after week, and where his confidence

1099
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: will be, because you know, this is a guy that

1100
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: only started for one season in college. He doesn't have

1101
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: sixty college slash pro starts under his belt to deal with,

1102
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: and he's not growing, he's regressing. We have a segment

1103
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: on the Power Ranking show I do with Matt money

1104
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: Smith called the Voice of the Chargers talks about what's

1105
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: wrong with the Chargers without getting fired, and Money's he's

1106
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: such a smart guy and he sees everything and he

1107
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: was breaking down. What what made uh that last sequence

1108
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: of that game such a cluster f near the goal line,

1109
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: because not only was their Chargers failures and Anthony Lynn

1110
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: with brutal play calling giving the ball back to Melvin

1111
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Gordon a second time after he nearly fumbled the first time.

1112
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: And then he does fumble. But the officials both on

1113
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: the floor and upstairs. Uh, and on Park Avenue or

1114
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: wherever they do these reviews. Uh, they missed the ten

1115
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: second runoff within that sequence. They also Austin Ekeler scored

1116
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Uh, there was not enough evidence to overturn that.

1117
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: And and then and that's pure Chargers and and even

1118
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: to Melvin Gordon, he the ball comes out of his

1119
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: hand on the first and gold carry, he lands on

1120
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: top of it. You could make the argument that should

1121
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. It was just such such a mess.

1122
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: But you wonder what happens going forward with Melvin Gordon White.

1123
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: I honestly have reached the point where I have just

1124
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: I have pity for the guy. I feel for him

1125
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: because he comes to the out in the media this

1126
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 1: week and he knows not only is he not getting

1127
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: that big paycheck, but now he's public enemy number one

1128
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: amongst his fan base and fantasy owners. Arecussions, yes, there are,

1129
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: but it's also as a human being. When he comes

1130
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: out to me and says, one thing I know is

1131
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: I'll never miss another training camp, you sense the guy

1132
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: is in a place, in a tough place in his life.

1133
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: He's not in shape. Obviously, he doesn't have that explosiveness

1134
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: near the goal line. And Anthony Lynn, who's a former

1135
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: running backs coach, he wants Melvin Gordon to get that

1136
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: game when he touched out, but he's gotta be smarter.

1137
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: And you just wonder what Gordon's role is going forward

1138
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: um at his current state. And one thing we don't

1139
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: know behind the scenes to add to that list is

1140
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: the kind of advice he's getting from the people around him.

1141
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: If you're Melvin Gordon going into this season where he's

1142
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: probably regretting some of the missteps he took based on

1143
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: agents and counsel saying this is something, this is something

1144
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: that was important to him before he entered the league.

1145
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: He came into the league saying I'm going to change

1146
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: the way running backs get paid. And I get that

1147
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: you're he admitted he wouldn't do it again, but he

1148
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: also affected other people's lives. He affected his teammates lives,

1149
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: he affected his coaches lives, he affected the owners lives

1150
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: by not coming in shape, by not reporting with his teammates.

1151
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: And now he's playing like two thousand eighteen Leonard four

1152
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: net even before that goal line situation. He's not explosive,

1153
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: he's not good, and he's cost himself money instead of

1154
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: earning money. It was a bad decision with a lot

1155
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: of repercussions, fair, and the coach bears a lot of

1156
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: fault for it. We see this in baseball too. This

1157
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: is a big part of coaching. You bring a guy

1158
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: up from a rehab assignment and he's not what he

1159
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: once was, don't play him. It's a little loyal to

1160
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: a fall. They pushed a little hard and if I'm

1161
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna bury Jalen Ramsey. West makes a good point that

1162
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: if he comes back, Melvin Gordon comes back, he's got

1163
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: to be Melvin Gordon that they need him to be

1164
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: in apparently, and the worst thing for the charges because

1165
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: we've talked about Melvin Gordon, let us a good trade candidates.

1166
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: Send him to Buffalo, send him X, Y and Z.

1167
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, thanks to his actual play on the field.

1168
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: His stock for a trade could not be lower. Right now,

1169
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: whatever they were gonna get is less, Greg, It's time

1170
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: to snake all right, Um, I'm gonna go see Hawks.

1171
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Falcon's only two early games left on the board. Chance

1172
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: to see Russell Wilson. We don't know if Matt Ryan

1173
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: is gonna play in this game. He has not practiced

1174
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday. Maybe is it worth noting this or not.

1175
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Matt shob moved the offense and scored a touchdown better

1176
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: than Matt Ryan did. All us well, you did it,

1177
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: you knowed you put so much stock in garbage time.

1178
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: I out what an indictment? No Like Greig and I

1179
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: have always disagreed on the value of garbage time production,

1180
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: and I think it. I think it's actually worse than

1181
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: meaningless because it leads you to conclusions that don't mean.

1182
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the match shop moving matters. I think

1183
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to to separate out. It is a philosophical thing,

1184
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: like what garbage time matters and what doesn't. Because almost

1185
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: as equally as a team going up and down the

1186
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: field with their backups, things happen like what happened in

1187
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: the Jets game where you just keep getting destroyed no

1188
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: matter who's on the field, so it's just hard to

1189
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: know which one matters. I think there'll be plenty of

1190
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: garbage time in this game because the Falcons defense is

1191
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: a garbage defense. I mean, them and the Dolphins are

1192
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: by far the two worst defenses in the league. And

1193
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: as long as Russell Wilson is allowed to throw the ball, uh,

1194
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: they're going to be one of the most efficient passing

1195
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: attacks in the league. It's crazy that the number two

1196
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: passing attack in d v O A is basically Wilson

1197
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: and Lockett improvising and then DK Metcalf's three routes like

1198
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: that's that's about it, and that's good for numb or

1199
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: two in the lake right, and then the other side

1200
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: of the ball. They don't have a single player on

1201
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: pace for five sacks. They miss like a Cliff Avrol

1202
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: or a Chris Clemens, one of those speedy guys coming

1203
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: off the edge. And if you can't sack a hobble

1204
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan or a Matt Shop behind this offense offensive

1205
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: line with no running game, then you're just a terrible

1206
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: pass rushing team. Yeah, Matt Ryan, was you know that

1207
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: offensive line is such a liability. They got him hurt

1208
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, that's they he was punished from

1209
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: wire to wire. I would like to see a Seahawks game, because, yes,

1210
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: they are fun to watch. They are drama queens because

1211
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna get out down early or keep it too

1212
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: close in some of these games, and then you know,

1213
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: with magic to lock it, which seems to happen every week,

1214
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: they'll pull up stuff out of a hat and get

1215
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: close at the end. How about a game like this

1216
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: where you're playing an offense that's just an open barn door.

1217
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: Get up early and actually run the Schottenheimer offense the

1218
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: way he'd like to, which is panneling people with the

1219
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: run late versus this late nonsense. I'm not sure they're

1220
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: they're any better than they were a year ago. They've

1221
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: played seven games, they've lost convincingly twice, they've won convincingly once,

1222
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: and they've won four times at the buzzer. I mean

1223
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: that's you know, the ball bounced a little better than

1224
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: they were a year ago. But they're just kind of

1225
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: that sort of team. Well, it feels like they're passing

1226
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: game is better, but they're running game is much worse.

1227
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Than it was. Later got to recognize it though, when

1228
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: he said that when he took criticism from missing the

1229
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: long field goal last week, it was on fourth and

1230
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: three of fifty three yard or that his plan was

1231
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: if he didn't go for the field goal, they would

1232
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: have punted it. And he said, because that's who we are.

1233
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: We're a defense and running team. We punt it there.

1234
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: But you're not. Your defense is below average, your running

1235
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: game is below average in terms of efficiency. Your offense

1236
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean you're passing the tax awesome. Lean

1237
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: into that your quarterback is an m VP candidate because

1238
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: largely the passing success. I will say that, yes, there's

1239
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: a lot of close games with the Seahawks is the

1240
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: reason why the Seahawks win a lot of close games.

1241
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: It's not always a coin flips because Russell Wilson as

1242
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: good as that as an doing it for a decade. Um.

1243
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on, Chris Westling. Okay, with where

1244
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: you're coming up in the draft today, I am I'm

1245
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: not okay. What's what's left to pick from it? I

1246
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: will take for the first time all year, the Bengals

1247
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: on the road against the Rams. Zach Taylor Sean McVeigh

1248
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: in London, back at in London Stadium. This is a

1249
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: normal time game. Ten am London pop like speak. We're

1250
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: back in the at the six thirty am. Damn oh,

1251
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the six thirty. I can pay attention

1252
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: to the game. Wood good for you. Yeah, a little

1253
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: six wake up call. I mean I'm waking up anyway.

1254
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: It's it's Sunday. It's a big football day. You gotta

1255
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: get up early, ready to face to face the world.

1256
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: He putting leave the egg yolks into the glass and

1257
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: just happened to wake up like it. Go ahead like

1258
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: Christmas morning. You got a whole day of football aheady,

1259
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: just like Christmas morning. You're a lucky man. Us uh.

1260
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about the Bengals, like

1261
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: you can't. I think I disagree with Mark and I

1262
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: don't think you can evaluate Andy Dalton. You just can't

1263
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: evaluate him behind this offensive line with the worst rushing

1264
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: attack we've ever seen, throwing to an injured wide receiver

1265
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: corps in a new offense. I just we know what

1266
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: he is after all these years. I don't think he

1267
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: got worse. I think he's the same quarterback when everything

1268
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: else got worse. I want to look at it. I

1269
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: can understand the Bengals say, let's keep a G Green.

1270
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: If you're Zach Taylor especially, you're coming in and you think, okay,

1271
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: if I can just get a J greenback, Tyler Boyd,

1272
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 1: if we get John Ross back at some point Joe

1273
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: Mix and Gio Bernard look at the weapons, I suddenly

1274
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: have I understand a coach saying that Cordie Glenn returned

1275
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: to practice autent tate making like three or four great

1276
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: catches every week. Now it's it's right. I do think

1277
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: you can say that it's trending towards the end of

1278
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: an era, though, that they will move on from him

1279
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like it's a great match. And

1280
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe it was just the green from uh Dondy Dalton

1281
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: after this year, but maybe it was just like the

1282
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: emotion of it. But the end of that game, the booing,

1283
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: like the the windy, half empty stadium, like where you

1284
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: could actually hear, you could hear, you could hear the

1285
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: the individuals different you know, timbers of their voice booing

1286
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: into the the see it just felt so like late

1287
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: December and ugly and just felt like this is ending. Yeah.

1288
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: My only call is for a new era, like let's

1289
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: try something new, because a lot of those weapons that

1290
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: you listed have been there for a long time, and

1291
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm not certain Zach Taylor's the guy to take them over.

1292
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: I thought the Rams, you know, I know who they

1293
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: were playing last week. It was kind of a nice

1294
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: fu game for Jared Goff in the offense to say

1295
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: they're not perfect, but you know what, they did everything

1296
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: you could have asked. I thought Golf made some really

1297
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: nice throws. He is far from uh the dude at

1298
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: this point. But after the fire that they were taking,

1299
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: they win and they took care of business. I don't

1300
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: know what you could have asked the offense to get

1301
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: more in Atlantic, Yeah, they got and they and they

1302
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: focused on what they do well, which is those three receivers.

1303
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: They're awesome, and they played a lot of tempo. I

1304
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: think it was a little bit of back to basics.

1305
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: You'll see that. I think I think you'll see that.

1306
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: And then was made to look really good by a

1307
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: horrible but let's see some more Darrell Henderson. I've seen

1308
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: enough of Girly. I mean, he's a he's a useful

1309
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: role player, and he's a their starter. He's a good

1310
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: he's a starting running back. But he had a play

1311
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: where he had a canyon opened up and it was

1312
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: just him in the safety. I forget who was number

1313
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: thirty on on Maybe it's demonte Kyzy on the falcon

1314
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: and it was just what West said. He didn't try

1315
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: to make a miss. He kind of burrowed and just

1316
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: went down. And when Darrell Henderson comes in, he doesn't

1317
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: look like he knows where he's going, but he's going

1318
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: there fast with a lot of power. Let's see more.

1319
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: I agree. I last thought in this game is people

1320
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: are teeing off on Jared Goff because I think he's

1321
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: one of those guys that people liked to tee off on.

1322
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: But if your offensive line of public ads, maybe maybe maybe,

1323
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: But if your offensive line goes from an A to

1324
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: a C overnight and maybe worse, and your superstar running

1325
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: back goes from a super duperstar too, what did you

1326
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: call him a piece a role player? There's not going

1327
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: to be this the idea now Jared Goff is maybe

1328
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: not a superstar, and maybe people are are puffing out

1329
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: their chest that I always that he wasn't a superstar,

1330
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of us were under the

1331
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: impression that he was a good quarterback in a great system,

1332
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: and now that he's playing poorly, it's not necessarily because

1333
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: he's terrible, it's because things have changed a lot. I'm

1334
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: not giving up on this team at all, especially with

1335
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. I think they can be a factor. Golf

1336
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: is terrible. I don't think we need to go there.

1337
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: But he was an m v P canndy a year ago.

1338
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, Dan, I think that a virtual

1339
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: that guy. But from the beginning there was also if

1340
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: anything that nagged Goff if he was a superstar in waiting,

1341
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: was that it was just Sean McVeigh teen him up

1342
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: at the at the at the line of scrimmage play

1343
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: after playing making Because it's people that don't know enough

1344
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: about football, it's fair to wonder, like, what's his ceiling?

1345
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's still only can he be a consistent

1346
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: top five quarterback? I don't know if many people have

1347
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: on the road and win, right, is there there's some

1348
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: people that have believed he's had that in him throughout

1349
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: and five is superstar? Right? No one in this podcast

1350
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: has been like that. Can he be a very functional

1351
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: top twelve type of guy and win a lot of games. Sure,

1352
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: all right, let's close out the draft portion of proceedings here. Um,

1353
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: I kind of get bailed out here. I get a

1354
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: late game. I was worried that West is going to

1355
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: go after his Broncos, but I guess they were so

1356
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: bad last time we saw him on Thursday Night Football.

1357
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,919
Speaker 1: That West. The Colts bore me to tears. It took

1358
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: me six tries to finish that game. So the cults, uh,

1359
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: they welcome the Denver Broncos to Lucas. I'll stay an

1360
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: early game, though, Raiders test a late game, yes, uh,

1361
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: and I believe I wanted to, but then I'd have

1362
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: three early games. Am I Do I have this wrong?

1363
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at the weekend schedule, I believe you

1364
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: need to be Yeah, you're looking that that appears. I

1365
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: think they moved the time of the game. You need Oakland,

1366
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: Oakland at Houston. Read the research manual. There you go.

1367
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 1: This is great podcasting. But yes, it's a ten am game.

1368
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: But I'm not crazy. This also has they moved the

1369
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: time of the game, and I'll be absorbing that. Well.

1370
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: If I'm getting a one pm either way, I'm moving man,

1371
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Mark to Oakland at Houston. Yeah, no, because

1372
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: I whenever I could watch. I've said this before Deshaun

1373
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: Watson on a Sunday. I'm watching Deshaun Watson on a Sunday.

1374
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: And the Raiders they're not a great team, but if

1375
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: you watch even the Packers game where they ended up

1376
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: dropping getting a forty burger dropped on them, if they

1377
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: execute a little bit better in the red zone. I

1378
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: believe there was three trips of the red zone that

1379
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: ended with no points. I'm not saying they were ever

1380
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: going to beat the Packers because Aaron Rodgers was simply

1381
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: too great in that game, but that game had a

1382
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: chance to be a lot more competitive. Um and maybe

1383
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: that's because the Raiders aren't good enough to execute, But

1384
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: I also think we've seen enough from them there where

1385
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: they had an off day in terms of the red zone.

1386
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: I think they could go to Houston and absolutely compete.

1387
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: I did. I did think about locking up the Texans

1388
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 1: just because Houston UH is coming off that tough loss

1389
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: at Indy and they are another team that I think

1390
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: if they bring their a game and they're at home,

1391
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: they're pretty tough to be And I think that's the

1392
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: version of the Texans we see, and I think the

1393
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: Texans do go away with a w here. The people

1394
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: in the desert think this is a pretty uh nice

1395
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: set up for Houston for what it's worth. So I

1396
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: do like the Texans in this game, but I would

1397
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: not discount this being another one of those close games

1398
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: because Houston seems to like to play those, and the

1399
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: Raiders aren't getting They're not getting wiped out very often

1400
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: the season. The Texans, that's what they've been doing. All

1401
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: one score games has been their recipe week after week.

1402
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: I thought the Cults loss was rough and under the

1403
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: radar rough because of just some lost opportunities that the

1404
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: the in the grasp call into Shaun Watson, which that

1405
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: that is a the way that's called when it is,

1406
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: it does never feel it never feels very consistent to me.

1407
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: It feels subjective to subjective based on who's on the field.

1408
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: That ripped a touchdown away from them that should not

1409
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: have been, I thought. And then they got deep down

1410
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: into the Colt's red zone again and were forced to

1411
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: kick a field goal when they should have scored. I mean,

1412
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: little things like that near the goal line hurt the

1413
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: Texans a lot last week. In another world, they win

1414
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, they were just as talented, I

1415
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: thought as as the Colts were. Their secondary can't cover anyone,

1416
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: Jared J. J. Watts hitting the quarterback six times, and

1417
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback has the best game of his life. J J.

1418
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Watts coming I mean he is. He is coming on strong,

1419
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: and you could hear it in his voice when he

1420
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: talked this week, he basically said he thought it was

1421
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: the best game he's played since he's come back from

1422
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: all those injuries going back four years, and I think

1423
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: it looked like it. He's been getting better each week.

1424
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: But the cornerbacks are are so bad that that the

1425
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: Texans participated in what, as I thought about it was

1426
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: maybe one of the most disrespectful trades in NFL history.

1427
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean the Raiders said, hey, Gary and Conley, we

1428
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: uh weird disrespect you so much. We want you to

1429
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: play for the team that we're playing against this week

1430
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: so that we can throw it all over you. We

1431
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: don't want to wait a week. We want to throw

1432
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: on Gary and Conley right now. That is uh pretty bad.

1433
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, people say trade in your division, how about

1434
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: you trade him and play him the next week. Josh

1435
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: Jacobs says, you got the practice this week, and their

1436
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: entire offense is based on him if you read between

1437
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: the lines on the way Romo was announcing last week.

1438
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: If they don't get an early lead and lean on it,

1439
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: they're done as an offense. Well there him and Darren

1440
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: Wall are you? Jon Gruden's you know, feeling himself. He's

1441
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: doing an awesome job. They are eighthan efficiency on options

1442
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: with Trevor Davis, Keelan Dawson, renfro as their top three

1443
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: receivers right now, Tyrone Williams should return. Their offensive lines incredible.

1444
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: It might be the very best offensive line in the

1445
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: league now that Gabe Jackson and Trent Brown looks like

1446
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: he's going to be back to their dangerous That's what

1447
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: I thought about locking up texting too. But I just

1448
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 1: think the Raiders play this weird old school slow style

1449
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: with three tight ends in a fullback. But they score

1450
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: and that leads to a lot of like offensive led

1451
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: games that are close at the end. I could see

1452
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: that happening Sunday. All right, Mark, close it out the

1453
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: draft portion of this, All right, Well, I will take

1454
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: the much bally Hood Broncos at cults game that you

1455
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: you know that's going to go down in the in

1456
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: the history of our drafts, is maybe a missed opportunity

1457
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: for you. Did you had, you had it in your

1458
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: wheelhouse and you let it go. How many Stone Pony

1459
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: tweets are gone? I'm not gonna be tweeting up a

1460
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: storm about about Joe Flacco because I think as a nation,

1461
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: right we came to a conclusion and you wrapped that

1462
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: up perfectly last Thursday night to there's no more. There's

1463
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: what more is there to say about some of these

1464
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: guys that are just lodged in these positions and you

1465
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: can feel the end creeping close that they you know

1466
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: they've given away at this point. Emmanuel Sanders, I think

1467
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton every week does something great for the Broncos.

1468
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: Uh DeShawn Hamiltons have a bigger role there. Their offense

1469
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: to me is just you gotta wait till next year. There,

1470
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: you're stuck with this because Drew Lock is not When

1471
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: you have John Elway coming down saying this would be

1472
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: the time to throw to give us Drew Lock, he's

1473
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 1: not ready. You can tell Vic Fangio was not on

1474
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: the Drew Lock train in general, and so he's he

1475
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: probably does not want to flip away from Flacco, no

1476
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: matter how bad he looked. The Colts. To me, Ry

1477
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: remind me of a little bit. I look at the

1478
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: Eagles and I say, why can't the coaching staff coach

1479
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: up the parts on offense to look better than they do?

1480
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: I look at the Cults and I feel like there's

1481
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot of middle range dudes they're outside of, like

1482
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: a t Y Hilton that Frank Wright coaches up. Every week.

1483
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: They get open guys like Zach Pascal, you know. They

1484
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: To me, it's week after week. It's not stars, and

1485
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: they they outshine the parts on the roster, and the

1486
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: Cults to me, are gonna be there at the end

1487
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: because of the way they're coached. Why was Jake bres

1488
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: Brisket not getting your pajamas moving? What's up of that?

1489
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: This is an extraordinarily, extraordinarily well coached team. Um Jacoby

1490
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: Brissette plays a very boring style of football. To me,

1491
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember any of the great throws he made.

1492
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: None of them stand out. I think this is the

1493
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: product product you get when you're best player by far

1494
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 1: as a guard. It's just not that fun to watch.

1495
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: I I like watching them because Frank wreck in the

1496
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: red zone. Frank Wreck in the red Zone is like

1497
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: a weekly Buddy comedy. You don't know what he's gonna

1498
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: come out with. He's gonna come up with something. Guys

1499
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: are wide open. He comes up with these crazy plays

1500
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: and they're one of the best red zone teams. He

1501
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: creates open receivers. Prissette did have a couple of nice

1502
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: deep outs in that last game. He's got plenty of

1503
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: arm and there's no question about that. But all six

1504
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: of their games have been one score. So there you

1505
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 1: said you wanted to see the Seahawks win, you know, convincingly.

1506
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: I like if if we do think the Cults are

1507
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: gonna be there at the end, and I had them

1508
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, so did you, Mark? And yet you

1509
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: know before the season starts. Yet I don't feel any

1510
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: better now than I did then, even at four and two,

1511
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: because that the margins so slim go beat the Broncos

1512
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: commit that holds that whole AFC South has that issue.

1513
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: Don't they feel like the ultimate tenant six team? Yes? Yes,

1514
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: I feel like they're closer to five hundred to me

1515
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: eight ten six in the NFL is a razor than margin.

1516
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: Broncos defense is up to fifth in d v O A.

1517
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: Now they're good. They are good, and I would think

1518
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: the Colts were right for an upset, but no offense

1519
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: will find a way to blow it. I have never

1520
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: seen a player make as many mistakes in two months. Boy,

1521
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: I think, is it kill? He's the trojan horse sent

1522
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: to get Alway fired. He's like the trojan Bronco. I think,

1523
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. This guy makes several mistakes every single week.

1524
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: If our listeners are curious whether the intensity of West

1525
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: is um antipathy for you know, no Ah fan, you

1526
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: know goes down at all watching games, No, it goes up.

1527
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: And watching the Broncos with the West was specially. I

1528
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: kept thinking, this guy's can improve. He's a f Trump pick.

1529
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: I'll get better. He gets worse every week. All right,

1530
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: let's move on to Sunday night football on this one

1531
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: hurts because we had the game of the year potentially

1532
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: set up, and perhaps it will still be a fun

1533
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: game because the Chiefs at home in prime time. They're

1534
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: not gonna roll over, but they're also not gonna have

1535
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, who was out with that knee injury that

1536
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: he suffered last Thursday UM against the Broncos. So it

1537
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: will be Matt Moore, right, we haven't officially. The Chiefs

1538
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: are trying to make playing that he took some second

1539
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: team raps and that there's a chance. When you look

1540
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: at the video that they put out there, I mean

1541
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: he's like kind of limping around there and not. I

1542
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: mean we would not we would not anyway to take

1543
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: a leap medically, we would not keep out. I'm going

1544
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: off raps who says he's not playing. Yeah, I think

1545
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: it's three weeks and then the by. Greg, I think

1546
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: it's just safe just to came out through the by.

1547
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: I actually think there he has one right before the bye.

1548
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: There you go. They might get Chris Jon back though,

1549
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: which is a huge uh addition, and they might get

1550
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher, their left tackle back. This does feel like

1551
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: a game that the Packers should win. Uh West do

1552
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: you have? Is there any way to spin it where

1553
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: you think the Chiefs pull this out if they don't

1554
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: have their m v P. No. And I don't even

1555
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: think they pull it out even if Mahomes plays, because

1556
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: they'll be so he'll be so limited against Aaron Rodgers

1557
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: in the zone. This version of Mahome's not healthy. I'm

1558
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: not like trusting the Chiefs defense has suddenly flipped a

1559
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: switch on because they had one great night in Denver,

1560
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: and right now Aaron Rodgers is an elevated sports experience

1561
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: to watch him play. This is This is the Aaron

1562
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers that we were watching three or four years ago

1563
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: when he was at the top of his game. And

1564
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm willing to sacrifice the Cowboys any other team to

1565
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: keep this Packers team healthy the rest of the year.

1566
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: They will be my number one pick in every chance

1567
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: I get to for our Thursday exercises. This is the

1568
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: team they're gaining strength. Romo was effusive in the way

1569
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: he'd describe that that Rogers and La Flour are getting

1570
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: used to each other. They're just now hitting o scride.

1571
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones is awesome. Once Davante Adams gets back, good

1572
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: luck he's doing this. Rogers did this last week against

1573
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders with a receiving corps that had a combined

1574
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: to leven touchdowns in their career. We are right back

1575
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: where we started with Aaron Rodgers in the past. You

1576
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: know what, But the difference is is that I am

1577
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: I I can get behind the whole Mike Petton experience.

1578
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: The team to me feels different. It is entirely than

1579
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: the operation from a few years ago, where you're you

1580
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: knew some drama was going to happen down the stretch.

1581
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: I thought they did give up a couple of big

1582
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: pass plays against Oakland last week. Their defense is not

1583
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: Saints level today than any Packers in anie Packers game

1584
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: in four years. Darnell Savage is practicing fully this week

1585
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: and should should be playing. He's he's been big in

1586
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: their back end, but was out the last two weeks.

1587
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: And your boy Robert Tanyan's back. They do have a

1588
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: lot of good injury news. All right, let's move to

1589
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: Monday night football. Uh, here's a stinker. That's just a

1590
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: bad game watching if you want. It's part of the NFL.

1591
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, every NFL game is is great. By the way,

1592
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: it looked bad when they put the schedule together. All right,

1593
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: it never looked great, but now it looks even worse.

1594
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: You got the Dolphins nil and six traveling to Hines

1595
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: Field to face Mason Rudolph and the Pittsburgh Steelers. The

1596
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: Steelers coming off to buy Uh, looking to have a

1597
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: pulse in the a f C North, and um, you know,

1598
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens seem right now to be the clear best

1599
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: team in that division. The Browns are an enigma at

1600
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: this point. The Steelers, though, if they can get this

1601
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: win and get to three and four, at least stay

1602
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: on the periphery. But that's about as much as I

1603
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:45,520
Speaker 1: could say about them. I'm stunned to read the optimism

1604
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: from the Steelers beat writers about how this team is

1605
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: going to finish like Ed Buchett and there's one other one. Yeah,

1606
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: they were I wrote a couple a couple. They really

1607
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: see them as like, well, they're like a nine nine

1608
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: win type of nine, a ten win type of team.

1609
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: And I know James Conner looked better before the vibe.

1610
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: But they also lost Stefan to it, who, along with

1611
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: t J. Watt, has been their best defensive player and

1612
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: he's out for the season. We never really hit that one,

1613
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: and that is a huge loss for I thought too,

1614
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: it was playing as well as any defensive end in

1615
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: the league, and this defense was really hitting it stride.

1616
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: It's a great defense, or it's a very good defense.

1617
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: I think the defense will still dominate this game. It's

1618
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: by far the best unit in this game. Even you

1619
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: know you got you're probably gonna have Fitzpatrick on Fitzpatrick

1620
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: crime in this one. T J. Watts still like that

1621
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: little Minca versus. Ryan didn't even think of the Minca mink.

1622
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: The revenge game. Revenge game. I mean, this was the

1623
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: ultimate revenge for the Dolphins would although I guess they

1624
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: would hurt their own pick if they win, so that

1625
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: defeats the best revenge upon themselves because because in theory,

1626
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: you know, they could they could make the Steelers record worse,

1627
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: which helps the pick they ow't you know, they also

1628
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: have the Steelers pick either way. They let me try

1629
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: to sell this game, U two fans. You know in

1630
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: August when the Hall of Fame game or preseason games

1631
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: on and you miss football so much that you watch

1632
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: it and it could not mean less in the starters

1633
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: play one series or two or not at all. Well,

1634
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: enjoy every sandwich, as once taught us, uh Martin, this

1635
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: is a football game that counts, and the Dolphins playing

1636
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: better and the Steelers are trying to stay in the playoffs.

1637
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: Here's one here. I know you don't want to think

1638
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: that Dolphins are interesting here's the thing. Who are you

1639
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: talking to? You can talk to anybody that every week

1640
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: he tries to get us interested in the do who

1641
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: aren't even interested in now? And this has happened now

1642
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: it's been getting closer every week when they get when

1643
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: they're getting close to a win, it's like Twitter starts buzzing, Oh,

1644
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: is this the week they're really gonna get Like when

1645
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: they if they win a game, or when they if

1646
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: they get down to the last five minutes, it feels

1647
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: more monumental then if the Bengals do it. Twitter has

1648
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: stopped picking on Kirk Cousins for twenty seconds. Isn't a

1649
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: cell because that's all Twitter does is talk about Kirk

1650
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: Cousins all game, all Sunday. I'm to be locked in

1651
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: from wire to wire in this. We're not gonna take

1652
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: my eyes off it. All right, So there you go.

1653
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: That is the preview of Week eight. Come back later

1654
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: tonight check in on your podcast download source of choice.

1655
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: We apologize the Matt More. You know, I didn't even

1656
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: get a mention here in his triumphant return. We but

1657
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: we ran out of time at late in the show.

1658
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: He'll get it when he and Andy Reid Andy Reid

1659
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: exact revenge on the Packers. Me and the Sizzler will

1660
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: talk Redskins at Vikings tonight in the Midi Pod and

1661
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: then on Sunday in the Flagship Show, will go all

1662
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: go all over the games, go over the games that

1663
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: we just previewed. And one last note, someone from our

1664
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: team here in NFL Media, Andy ken Off, who's a

1665
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: tape operator and a guy behind the scenes that works

1666
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: on this show and many others. Uh. He was in

1667
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: a motorcycle accident um recently and he suffered some serious injuries.

1668
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: He's gonna be okay, but he's laid up right now,

1669
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: and so we send our wishes best wishes uh to

1670
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 1: Andy because that sucks, and we hope that he gets

1671
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: well soon and gets back to work. Most importantly, back

1672
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: to work, Andy, Let's get you into the building. That's

1673
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 1: what we need. But uh, yeah, best wishes to Andy

1674
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: and his whole family. Smart moved by Andy though, to

1675
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: stay on top of the league by listening to this podcast.

1676
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 1: He wants. He wants to full around the NFL experience,

1677
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: all right and get well soon. All right. This is

1678
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: Dan hands a signing off four. The Quiet Storm, The Mailman,

1679
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 1: The Old Boss Rick Holiday behind the glass, ND Bartlett,

1680
01:22:30,560 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: the whole team back there, Hey Christie Till sunday e