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Speaker 4: She just put out a new EP called Sincerely Rolling Stone,

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Speaker 4: it out alikolen music dot com. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: I don't like exercising, but I think I six days

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Speaker 3: It's just getting like put in my clothes on.

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Speaker 2: When was the last time you bought a new gym outfit.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I usually just cut out sleeves of

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think that's a new shirt

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing about my laces. My laces are

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Speaker 3: They make Louis Biton harnesses, I don't.

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Speaker 3: However, I think for me.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's fair, but I have found kind

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Speaker 2: It's not fair.

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Speaker 1: so if I'm out in public, I've just already decided

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Speaker 4: There's only two rules that I give people that listen

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Speaker 4: leave them alone. Other than that, they know what they've

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Speaker 3: Knowing that people will know them. Their job was to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so if they have a kid with them, don't

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Speaker 4: Most times there's a rare exception of people who are jerks,

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Speaker 3: Have put out. Yeah, but just.

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Speaker 4: No kids and no food. Other than that, they're free

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Speaker 4: Why, Because you were the kid once I was the kid.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to have parents, and I just wanted

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Speaker 1: and that's always tough because you're, you know, considering this

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Speaker 1: But that takes away eighty two percent of the human

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Speaker 2: It never bothered me, It really didn't.

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Speaker 1: But there was something about when we're eating, and he

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Speaker 2: And that was always really tough.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not going to compare my situation to yours

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Speaker 4: When I got married, for my wife, the situation was

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Speaker 4: that's great. Ninety nine percent of the time, it really is.

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Speaker 4: I got to grow with that, right, meaning I got

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Speaker 3: Have I did shows of one hundred people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to evolve as you evolved.

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Speaker 3: For sure. So I grew with it learned where my

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine I feel that way about the TikTok

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Speaker 1: The most mental effect on these new artists who haven't

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Speaker 1: And I have a lot of stuff that I have

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Speaker 2: But I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: Running into it at nineteen, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 3: But it's crazy that would I'll say relieve because I

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Speaker 4: It relieves a bit of resentment, Like you're able to

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Speaker 2: Perspectives.

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Speaker 3: It is a tool, but you only get it through

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like patience, Like if you.

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Speaker 4: Have perspective, it's because you've been through something it wasn't desirable. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: My wife's very private.

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Speaker 4: And part of that too, is probably her getting dunked

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Speaker 3: She's very private.

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Speaker 2: I'm still working really hard on that. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've been in therapy for the last three years specifically

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Speaker 4: You know now, to be fair, what you're saying is

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Speaker 4: You're saying you weren't allowed to feel like you down

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that until I was an adult. But

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Speaker 1: it even crossed maybe their brains that we could go

446
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Speaker 1: without because we had everything, and so I didn't know.

447
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,760
Speaker 1: And when we talk about performing in the gym and

448
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,040
Speaker 1: all of those things, and like I mean, I had

449
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Speaker 1: to learn at you know, a very young age that

450
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Speaker 1: you didn't just get to be a wild kid in

451
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Speaker 1: the grocery store because what you did was a reflection

452
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Speaker 1: of Garth Brooks, you know what I mean. And like

453
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Speaker 1: and we as a family, we love that name. We

454
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Speaker 1: love the name of Tricia Yearwood. We love the name

455
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Speaker 1: of Garth Brooks. Now, those those products are not my parents,

456
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. My bonus mom is my

457
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Speaker 1: bonus mom, and my dad and my mom or my parents,

458
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Speaker 1: and that's what they are. But there's also that thing

459
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Speaker 1: of growing up where it's like man and anyone from

460
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Speaker 1: who's like a really really small town also gets it

461
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Speaker 1: to on that spectrum, like if you get in trouble

462
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Speaker 1: at the bar, you know what I mean, when you're

463
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Speaker 1: twenty one on your first time, like that is a

464
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Speaker 1: reflection of your family in that small town, you know

465
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Speaker 1: what I mean, And so think about that globally, it

466
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Speaker 1: just seemed like everything we did so we had. We

467
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Speaker 1: tried to get the best grades, and we tried to

468
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Speaker 1: be the best athletes, and we tried to be the

469
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Speaker 1: kindest people in town, you know what I mean, Like

470
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Speaker 1: you just try and do all that thing, like what

471
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Speaker 1: you're talking about earlier, just to negate any possible run.

472
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Speaker 2: Ins with like being anything that's negative.

473
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Speaker 1: And so as an adult, I'm twenty eight now and

474
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Speaker 1: I'm really trying to figure out what Ali does for Ali.

475
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476
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Speaker 3: Have you read and this is such a cliche book,

478
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Speaker 3: But I say that because I just read it.

479
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Speaker 4: I always felt it was cliche, so I never read it.

480
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Speaker 4: I just read The Alchemist.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm familiar with the title.

482
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Speaker 4: Okay, me too, It's all I was familiar with it.

483
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 4: And so the whole thing is about finding your personal legend.

484
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 4: The whole book it's.

485
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Speaker 2: Saying that to me, was the first your purpose? Oh oh,

486
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Speaker 2: like your legacy?

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like why do you exist? Like what.

488
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 4: Inside of you? What is your purpose? For being here,

489
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Speaker 4: and I think my purpose was so attached to my

490
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 4: career for so long. I give it only that's the

491
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Speaker 4: only thing I really had control in though, because it's

492
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Speaker 4: coming from how I grew up. I didn't have control.

493
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Speaker 4: I didn't have any family.

494
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Speaker 7: So children do not have agency. I okay, go ahead,

495
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Speaker 7: Children do not have agency. I felt like I had

496
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Speaker 7: to develop agency very early because you had to.

497
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, is.

498
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Speaker 2: Not a fault. You under see what I'm saying.

499
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Speaker 1: Like any child that had to establish their own agency

500
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Speaker 1: before I mean, let's just say eighteen, because culturally that's

501
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Speaker 1: that's what we do here. You know, at eighteen, you're

502
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 1: out there and you're able to make your own decisions.

503
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Speaker 1: You can mess up with the irs and go to jail,

504
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Speaker 1: you can do all the things at eighteen.

505
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Speaker 2: So anyone who has.

506
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Speaker 1: To establish agency for them before that, that is something

507
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Speaker 1: that you're going to have to go back through your

508
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Speaker 1: entire life with your new beautiful on a lobe that

509
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Speaker 1: you have now and reprogram all of those things. Children

510
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Speaker 1: do not have agency. Children have freedom to be children.

511
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Speaker 1: And that is not the case for I'm sure most

512
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Speaker 1: most people. You know what I mean, Like we all

513
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Speaker 1: have to do it, but you didn't have agency as

514
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Speaker 1: a child.

515
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Speaker 4: I would say, though, how I compare my childhood is

516
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Speaker 4: I would compare it to yours in the parallel of

517
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Speaker 4: you may have been given. You may have had the

518
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Speaker 4: ability to not have to have agency for so long

519
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Speaker 4: that it could have kept you from growing in certain ways.

520
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Speaker 1: We didn't have agency because I think the biggest thing

521
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Speaker 1: of agency is not having the freedom to be a child,

522
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Speaker 1: not having the freedom to grow up and establish your

523
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Speaker 1: own likes and dislikes, like your own.

524
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Speaker 2: Fears and not fears.

525
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Speaker 1: Instead you have like this lifeline that has thrown on

526
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Speaker 1: to you that kind of takes away that agency. And

527
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Speaker 1: so for you having to perform in such a way

528
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Speaker 1: when you were younger, because you had to step in

529
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Speaker 1: and fill fill roles that children should not have to fill,

530
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Speaker 1: I think that affects the self the same way.

531
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Speaker 4: But don't you think you had to step in and

532
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Speaker 4: fill roles of the expectation that that you had put

533
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Speaker 4: on yourself to be whomever everybody else thought you were?

534
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Speaker 1: Absolutely my siblings and I had absolutely no agency to

535
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Speaker 1: grow and to evolve at an appropriate pace, you know

536
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Reflection, Yes, And so how are you

537
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Speaker 1: encouraged to do that with the Alchemists.

538
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Speaker 2: And where do you land at? Is there a landing point?

539
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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a landing point ever, just in

540
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 4: general anyway, Yeah, I don't hate that. I think the

541
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Speaker 4: one thing I've learned is there really is no target ever.

542
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Speaker 4: You just kind of aim toward a goal, and then

543
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Speaker 4: at any time you want to modify that, you have

544
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Speaker 4: the ability to modify that. My goals used to be

545
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Speaker 4: A and B, and I've had a in therapy. I've

546
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Speaker 4: had a real hard time with not feeling like a

547
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Speaker 4: failure because I'm modifying a goal, because I feel like

548
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Speaker 4: if I'm modifying a goal, I'm giving up.

549
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Speaker 2: So how is purpose to find in the Alchemist.

550
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Speaker 3: That it's okay to.

551
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Speaker 4: Chase your sense of self even if it wasn't your

552
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 4: sense of self even five minutes ago, that there there

553
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: is no definitive sense of self. That a lot of

554
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 4: the things that we prioritize and make extremely important, we're

555
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: making important, making important for exterior for reasons that really

556
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Speaker 4: don't matter to us, it.

557
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Speaker 3: Matters to other people, and other people.

558
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Speaker 4: Matter to us, and limiting that because it's never going

559
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Speaker 4: to be gone. Yeah, and so yeah, I avoided that

560
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Speaker 4: book forever and I read it and pretty freaking amazing.

561
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Speaker 3: I get it.

562
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Speaker 4: I get why people like talk about it so much.

563
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Speaker 4: The same thing with the Four Agreements, Like I read

564
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Speaker 4: that didn't want to fends like read it and for

565
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Speaker 4: me that that the part of that book was don't

566
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Speaker 4: nothing in business is personal, even if it is it's not.

567
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Speaker 1: Well, those things make like push to make a decision

568
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Speaker 1: that is bigger than the self. I think same thing

569
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Speaker 1: with like pushing yourself to work out. It's like it's

570
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: just pushing that bigger conversation. That's like, I don't know,

571
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Speaker 1: it's hard, but I do like the I like the

572
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Speaker 1: frustration you have with taking on new stuff that you

573
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Speaker 1: know is gonna be helpful, but you also know that

574
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Speaker 1: you have to evolve afterwards.

575
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Speaker 3: I'm good with delayed gratification.

576
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Speaker 4: I really am, because all my gratification has been extremely delayed, extremely.

577
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm pretty good with delayed gratification. You have

578
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Speaker 3: a lot of tattoos.

579
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Speaker 1: I was just I was looking at this photograph before

580
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Speaker 1: you came in here, and I was thinking about the

581
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Speaker 1: ones that are not on this photograph.

582
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Speaker 2: I like doing that every time I come to a

583
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 2: room I'm like, what's new?

584
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Speaker 3: What are you saying with all these tattoos?

585
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Speaker 1: I think that they all say you know something different

586
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Speaker 1: in their own way. I also don't find it to

587
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Speaker 1: be too serious in the sense of I saw a

588
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Speaker 1: woman when I was probably eight or nine that was

589
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Speaker 1: just covered head to toe in tattoos, and I thought,

590
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Speaker 1: what a Like, that's crazy. Like I just thought she

591
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: was stunning, And I thought, I want to represent what

592
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Speaker 1: I've learned and how I've evolved in a bunch of

593
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Speaker 1: tiny little things that matter to me.

594
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Speaker 2: And some of them are just cool.

595
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Speaker 1: Man.

596
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Speaker 2: Some of them I just think are cool, like my

597
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: band aid, Are you joking?

598
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Speaker 3: I think all of them are probably cool. And I

599
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Speaker 3: guess so.

600
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Speaker 4: I wonder if you were, in your mind required to

601
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Speaker 4: live a certain way because of the expectation upon you,

602
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: is this a way to say there is no expectation

603
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Speaker 4: on me anymore?

604
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Speaker 1: I think for me, it's just an outward thing of like,

605
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Speaker 1: maybe that is one of the few things that I

606
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Speaker 1: have done for myself. I have tattoos of myself. I

607
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: have two tattoos of myself and where she was when

608
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Speaker 1: she got them and who she is now, because I

609
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: don't know who else is ever going to get an

610
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: ally colleen leg sleeve.

611
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Speaker 2: If there are a couple of people, I'd be pretty rad.

612
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Speaker 2: I don't think there are. Anything is rarely just me,

613
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: so I'll do it. But I just love it.

614
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Speaker 1: But I've never thought about it as any kind of

615
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Speaker 1: like negating what people expect me to look like.

616
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Speaker 2: I've never talked. I've never taken it that way. I

617
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: don't mean to put words in your mouth.

618
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Speaker 3: No, I did take it as that.

619
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a lot of people ask me that

620
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: and asked about, oh, well, so you have tattoos because

621
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Speaker 1: your parents don't like tattoos orally the cases, And I'm

622
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Speaker 1: like I it has never crossed my mind to ask

623
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Speaker 1: my parents what they thought about my tattoos or my body.

624
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Speaker 3: How many do you have?

625
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

626
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I've passed with both of my arms being

627
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Speaker 1: one whole piece.

628
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Speaker 2: I know I've passed thirty.

629
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Speaker 3: What was your first tattoo?

630
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Speaker 2: My elephant?

631
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Speaker 3: Which one on your leg?

632
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's a odd place to get a first tattoo,

633
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: right on your quad.

634
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Speaker 1: I already had my I already had my sleeve planned out.

635
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Speaker 1: But I I graduated. I was one of those really

636
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: late summer birthdays or graduated like seventeen. So I knew

637
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: I was going to be in Nashville when I was

638
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: eighteen because I chose my university here, and so I

639
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: already had Jay picked out. Jay Quarrels is my tattoo artists.

640
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: I absolutely love him, and so I already had him

641
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: picked out. So I just wanted something to get on

642
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: my eighteenth birthday, and the elephant was a painting that

643
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: I'd done, and so I wanted I wanted to do

644
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: my own first tattoo like I wanted.

645
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: To design it.

646
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Speaker 3: Are they all personal?

647
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: Not all of them? Most of them?

648
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: Yes, some of them I genuinely think, just look absolutely cool,

649
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: just swag.

650
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Speaker 4: What's more personal a tattoo or a song that you've written,

651
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: because I'm assuming not all songs are as personal as others.

652
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean there's a scale.

653
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: There's absolutely a scale.

654
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Speaker 1: I mean there's those songs that there's very few of

655
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Speaker 1: these because I feel like as performers, you know, when

656
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: something touches us that much, we kind of have that

657
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: ego of thinking it can affect a lot of people.

658
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Speaker 1: But if you ever meet songwriters who have songs that

659
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: they've truly never played for anybody else.

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Speaker 2: That I think is the most personal thing that you

661
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Speaker 2: can that you can have.

662
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Speaker 3: Do you have one of those? Two of those? Three

663
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: of those?

664
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Speaker 2: I only have one?

665
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Speaker 1: Everything else I've always wanted to share in some capacity

666
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Speaker 1: with somebody.

667
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Speaker 3: Are you Are you making it precious? Or are you insecure?

668
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: I think it's a shame thing, for sure, But I

669
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: think it's one of the very few ways, like outlets,

670
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: that I've learned to navigate shame with that I like.

671
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: But it's also rooted in performing, which I'm trying to

672
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: get away from. If I can turn my shame into

673
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: something and I think it's beautiful and that someone could

674
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: listen to it without arguing against it or negating its purpose,

675
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: surely I did a good job.

676
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: That's performing. Is the shame limiting itself as time goes by.

677
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: In your dream scenario? Or are you always going to

678
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: hold this song this precious?

679
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: I think I'll hold it this precious until I don't

680
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: have shame for what they like the song is about,

681
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like for shame for that memory,

682
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: shame for that circumstance, shame for how I reacted or

683
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: didn't react to that circumstance. I think that the shame

684
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: will always be there. And then there's also that performing

685
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: thing of like it's something that I don't want anyone's

686
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: even positive affirmations about yet, you know, it's just a

687
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: little personal world. I don't know, but I don't think

688
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: I have any tattoos that I would feel as personal

689
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: about to a song.

690
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 3: Do you have any tattoos from songs?

691
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Like?

692
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: Did you write a song ago? I'm gonna make this.

693
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: This makes me feel a certain way, it's about a

694
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: certain thing.

695
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

696
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: I have started my back recently, which is going to

697
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: be over my lifetime. All lyrics of mine that I

698
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: that like really mean something to me. So I have

699
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: a song called Wildflower, and that chorus is the first

700
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: lyrics that are on my back so far, because it's

701
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: just one of the songs that I want to represent

702
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life and one of the

703
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: songs that I wrote for me to represent for.

704
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: The rest of my life.

705
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Are you ocd that the lyrics will have to be

706
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: in the same font or same side, I don't know.

707
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: I've already made it.

708
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: I've made sure that they can all be like hodgepodged

709
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: and like the margins are all different on all of

710
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: them too, and the fonts different on all of them

711
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: based off of like the character of the song, So

712
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: the font should reflect the song, if that makes any

713
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: kind of sense.

714
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: How often do you write?

715
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: I write in some capacity every day, whether it's like

716
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: free writing, or whether it's actually putting melody to lyrics,

717
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: or whether it's co writing or write every day?

718
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: Are you a melody first or a concept lyric first?

719
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: Always different?

720
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Generally fifty one percent of the time.

721
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: Concept first.

722
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: It's happening less and less as I get older that

723
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: I just have a melody that I can't shake that

724
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: I want to put it like a narrative to Usually

725
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: it's trying to find the melody.

726
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: That fits the narrative.

727
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: Where's home?

728
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: Somewhere where there's food? You know what I mean? I

729
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

730
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: It's not Oklahoma. It's not here. I live here, I

731
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: was raised in Oklahoma. I don't know where I'm gonna

732
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: end up or where I want to spend my personal time.

733
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

734
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: God knocks on the door and says, hey, take me

735
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: to your home. Where do you take them?

736
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 1: Take them to the barn. I have a barn at

737
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: my house. It has the best acoustics on the planet.

738
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: Why.

739
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I think it's because it's open. It's like concrete and wood,

740
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's nothing but refracturing sound.

741
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: There's no sound proofing or absorbing or anything out there.

742
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: But there must be a security there in that spot though,

743
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: if you picked that, I.

744
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Think it's just where I'm always alone. You know, my

745
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: house I've invited people into. My personal life is very small,

746
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: so it's also very connected. I only have really like

747
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: two best friends and people that I spend my time with,

748
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: so it's all really connected. Family's weird, will always be weird,

749
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: and I love them all so much. But the barn

750
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: is the only place where it's ever just me. No

751
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: one works in there with me, no one cleans it

752
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: with me, no one takes care of the horses with me.

753
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 2: That's just my place.

754
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: So that is your security, I think so.

755
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: And that barn probably allow me to put some words

756
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: in your mouth and then you can take them out.

757
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: That barn could probably exist in a.

758
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 4: Few places if it needed to. Yeah, Like, it's not

759
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: that literal place. It's what it stands for and what

760
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: you can do in it. Yeah, So it's not Oklahoma, huh, No,

761
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: When did that not?

762
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: When was that not home?

763
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma never felt like home. Oklahoma has always felt like

764
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: an expectation and a weird thing. I have a song

765
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: on this project that's called Oklahoma Mountains, and there are

766
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: no mountains in Oklahoma.

767
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been there. I'm sure you know.

768
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: My wife's from there.

769
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Where they're along all right, Yeah, there's nothing. You get lost,

770
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: you just look up.

771
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: You're the one thing. They're great and loss. That's what

772
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: I'll say about the people.

773
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: The people in Oklahoma are incredible. Everyone in Oklahoma will

774
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: agree with you. They're the best and the worst part.

775
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: The people are are what it is. But Oklahoma Mountains

776
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: is just they say, there's no mountains in Oklahoma. Why

777
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: have I always had to climb? Oklahoma is just tough

778
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: for me. It's tough on me. It's tough for me.

779
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, And that's probably an alley thing.

780
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: Is that an expectation to being Guard's daughter thing?

781
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's so much an expectation as

782
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: much as it's like a just like this really hard

783
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: label that nobody will move.

784
00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: What's the label?

785
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Just being a product's daughter? Like there's not even an

786
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Alley in the title. If I feel like I feel

787
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: like we've talked about this in the past grammar wise,

788
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: my vendetta with Garth Brooks daughter Comma Ali Coleene Comma

789
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: is really really great and works.

790
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Really hard on our own.

791
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: That whole sentence is still wrong because I am an

792
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: adjective of the noun.

793
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy, you know what I mean? Like I am

794
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: a daughter.

795
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: To a title that's that's crazy, because like he's a product,

796
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Like Garth Brooks is a product that has been molded

797
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: and shaped and worked for, and I am a fan

798
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: of it. I love what it represents, I love who

799
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: it is, I love everything about it.

800
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: But that's what it is. Like Garth Brooks is a product.

801
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: Ali Coleen is a product.

802
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I've worked really hard on it, you know what I mean,

803
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: on its shelving, on its packaging, on what it represents,

804
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: on where it comes from, all of those things.

805
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: But it doesn't have a by product. Do you under

806
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: ste what I'm saying?

807
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not a byproduct of Garth Brooks. He's just

808
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: my dad and we love each other. And then I

809
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: went off and made a career for myself in music.

810
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? In in Oklahoma. You're just

811
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: always a daughter. You're always someone who's probably never worked

812
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: very hard for anything. You're always someone who probably has

813
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: all of our finance taken care of. You're probably someone

814
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: who dad sits in the meetings with you and make

815
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: sure that you've become as successful.

816
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: As you are.

817
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Like there's always some kind of byproduct of someone else's legacy,

818
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: and that's not what I am.

819
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: Do you think you have to work harder than the

820
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: average hard worker to prove that you work hard? Yeah?

821
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: Do you think it?

822
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: I'm not saying is it realm saying? Do you think

823
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: I do? I think it, yes, because.

824
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: Because that has been the narrative that I've been told

825
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: for as long as I can remember. I think I

826
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: shared this with you last time my first spelling tests,

827
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: made a hundred on it, did a great job, you

828
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, crushed it.

829
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: Kid next to me spelled beans wrong, be e in it.

830
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

831
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: Beans rock on, Dude, you are so close. I got

832
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: a hundred on that spelling test because of who my dad.

833
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: Is, which you know what I mean?

834
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Like just being told from the age that you were

835
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: six from someone who you sit next to in class

836
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: and do the same work with you, do the same

837
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: things every day. I went home and practiced, you know

838
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that has been the case my

839
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: entire life. Every soccer team I've ever made, every tryout

840
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: I've ever had, every grade I've ever made, the car,

841
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: I drive, the house, I have all of these things,

842
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, and.

843
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: And everybody has their labels, everyone has their stuff.

844
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm not special. We all have our things. We have

845
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: to get over. Those are just things that I'm really

846
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: trying to get over.

847
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

848
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

849
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: I want to make a comparison. It's not to your dad,

850
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: and I hope the comparisons okay. And if it's not,

851
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 4: then we'll just say it's not okay, and you can

852
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 4: we'll talk about it.

853
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: But uh Nicotine.

854
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: The song it feels I won't say sounds like, but

855
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: it feels like Ashley McBride type song.

856
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: Because I love Ashley.

857
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: I love Ashley.

858
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: Ashley's from Arkansas, like I am small town in Arkansas,

859
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: like we grew up in similar situations. So I love Ashley,

860
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: and I say that in a very complimentary way. It

861
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: feels like a story that she would tell how does

862
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: that make you feel if I make a comparison to

863
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: somebody else, because I don't think it's derivative of it

864
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 4: at all, But I think that that is a skill

865
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: that a few people have.

866
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: I want to be Ashley McBride, So that makes me

867
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: feel like the coolest kid on the planet. That I

868
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: could even do something that Ashley would do. I think

869
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: that's the coolest thing on the planet. But I've never

870
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: once been told. I've never once been told when I

871
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: do something that I'm really proud of that Ashton McBride

872
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: made that happen for me, you know what I mean,

873
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: Like it just never.

874
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: I also wasn't saying ash mc may that happened for you.

875
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying it reminded me of that, right, But I'm.

876
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Just saying, like, being compared to another artist in that

877
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: kind of way, in a songwriting way, absolutely an honor,

878
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: especially one that I love. I'm like, I I did

879
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: something she could do. That's that's an honor. Even if

880
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 1: I've been and this doesn't happen often because we don't

881
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: sound alike it all, but the very few times, like

882
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: the first time that you watched me sing on YouTube

883
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: and I did choose every woman, and you said, I

884
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: can hear Garth's inflexions in her voice. I can hear that.

885
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: That's one of the coolest compliments I've ever gotten in

886
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: my life, Bobby, because I've always wondered if I could

887
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: ever sound like him or like anything.

888
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Like that, because my siblings don't sing at all or

889
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: do music.

890
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: I would think would be the opposite. And actually I

891
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: was a little ashamed that I had said.

892
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: That, No, that's okay. I think that's cool.

893
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: But at the time too, like you weren't saying, oh,

894
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: she can sing because of who her dad is. You

895
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: didn't do that thing of like genetics must be good.

896
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: And then he punched me on the shoulder, you know

897
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. You just Ali was compared in that

898
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: moment to a song or something of an artist that

899
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: she loves, and I thought that was really really cool.

900
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: I mean a tone and a texture, yeah, to me

901
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: is what it was. More than Hey, she's his kid.

902
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 4: Obviously she's gonna be able to do that exactly.

903
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: And those are different, you know what I mean, Like,

904
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: those things are different, and I can recognize that, Sony,

905
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: anything that I would have to do with like music,

906
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm such an honor for But it's just like.

907
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: If you told me.

908
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: That little Bobby Bones was walking into the room, I

909
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: would just think I would already have a lot of

910
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: assumptions about little Bobby that I'll have to do with you,

911
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's nothing wrong with that.

912
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: That's human nature. It makes sense. I'm just asking more

913
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: so the industry to help me out, to not put

914
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: me in that box to people that I'm not gonna

915
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: fit in that box. They're not gonna like me in there,

916
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't represent him at all.

917
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: So it's just always been really tough when it's like

918
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: Garth Brook's daughter Ali Coleen doing this, this this now

919
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everyone thinks friends in the Places

920
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: is gonna be in my set and it's not.

921
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: It's I ever thought about that, the expectation they would

922
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 4: have of you to play your dad's songs, Yeah, no way.

923
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: M h everywhere I go.

924
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that would wear on me psychologically.

925
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: It'd be like if people expect to you to do

926
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: someone else's bits, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like

927
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: it's like that, that's not even how that works. Like, no,

928
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: that's always tough, Like when You've worked so hard on

929
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the products and like what it is, and I love

930
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: my music. I'm not gonna lie to you, Bobby. I

931
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: think I'm like one of the best. I love my music.

932
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: I get so excited every time I write something new,

933
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: and I get so excited and I love it. But

934
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: you're not gonna feel that way if you think it's

935
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: gonna sound like a Garth Brooks song.

936
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And that's always the wall

937
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: that I hit.

938
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: I love representing my family and being a daughter and

939
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: having the parents I have.

940
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: I love them.

941
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of it.

942
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I just wish Ali Colin could also just stand on

943
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: her own in a conversation, you know, without the legacy.

944
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: Then I'm going to ask you a question that's going

945
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: to be annoying. What does not the product? But what

946
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: does your dad say about? How about how to approach that?

947
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 4: About how to approach finding yourself away from the Garth

948
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 4: Brooks product?

949
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: And there are two different people. There's Garth Brooks, like

950
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: you said, the product, and then there's your freaking dad

951
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: who's been through it and knows a lot because he's

952
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: been through it. What is his advice to you?

953
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: My dad is man, and I might perceive it this way.

954
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: So this entire conversation from this point on is how

955
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: ALI perceives this.

956
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: You can tell you made a lot of therapy because

957
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: I say the same type of things you can tell

958
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: with someone that did a lot of therapy.

959
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.

960
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to make a blanket statement about

961
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, you guys. But how I perceive my relationship

962
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: with my father is I think he's very very hesitant

963
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: to tell me anything about music, you know what I mean,

964
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: because it just doesn't work the same as it did.

965
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about generations different on like how

966
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: he entered the scene, how I'm trying to enter the scene.

967
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: My dad hates social media and sometimes thought that maybe

968
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do social media, like for myself, like for

969
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: to preserve Alley.

970
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: But I'm like, who else is going to do it?

971
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: Man?

972
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm an independent artist. It's just me and Bev.

973
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: That's it, just me and my manager.

974
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: It's all we got.

975
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: So my dad really stays away from that kind of stuff.

976
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: And I don't ask too many questions either. Probably my

977
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: dad and I have worked out since I was a kid,

978
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: so maybe that's Also, I love the gym, but I've never.

979
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: Red what about your dad? Not the guy that does music,

980
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: but your dad. Let's say he didn't do music. You

981
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: probably don't have advice for somebody doing music and how

982
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: to differentiate themselves from A to B? Is is there

983
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: not a separation of church and state.

984
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: I have worked so hard in learning the difference between

985
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: Ali Cooling and Ali and the way that I perceive

986
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: my father is that he hasn't had that luxury. I

987
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: don't know that my dad knows that there's a difference

988
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: between Garth Brooks and Dad.

989
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 3: That's fair.

990
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: I struggle at times with knowing there's the difference between me,

991
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: Bobby Estell and Bobby Bones, and I think the the I.

992
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: Think I only know because I saw the two difference,

993
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because I didn't realize who

994
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: Dad was until I was probably twelve or thirteen, because

995
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: that was the age that I saw the Central Park

996
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: footage and I thought, now, I get why they are

997
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: grocery stores not that chill for us, you know, like

998
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: I really didn't. I knew he was huge, I knew

999
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: he was famous. I didn't know the capacity that it

1000
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: was global, you know what? I mean, like I really

1001
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: didn't understand that. So I saw two different things. And

1002
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean you being entering to fame the way that

1003
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: you did, you didn't have anybody you know that you

1004
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: got to watch be two different things. So my perspective

1005
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: is just really weird.

1006
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: How do you write a song? You walk back into

1007
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: the barn.

1008
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: And you just sit down, and is it always there?

1009
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: It's always there. I've gotten to the point now on

1010
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: guitar where I'm starting to.

1011
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: Get better at it tour, because I used to if

1012
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: I didn't start the melding on the guitar, I was

1013
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: just screwed and was going to have to sing a

1014
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: song later for a guitar player in the sense of

1015
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm very good at guitar, but I can't always find

1016
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: my key or my chords, like if I'm making something up.

1017
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: And now I've kind of gotten there, but now I

1018
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: just I just sit down, and I just I said down,

1019
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: and I'm grateful I have a skill and a craft

1020
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: that I've worked really hard at that I've met people

1021
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: that don't have the same outlet. And ever since I

1022
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: realized that, like it's not always normal for people to

1023
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: sit down and be able to write a song. I

1024
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: became really really grateful for that. And there is something

1025
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: about like surrendering to your craft, like no matter what

1026
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: it is, there's something about surrendering like to yourself and

1027
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: like your ability to do something. That's what songwriting feels.

1028
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: Like what's your live show like? Because I've seen you play,

1029
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: but it's always you've played our studio, you've played. I've

1030
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: not seen you out in the big yeah, Like what

1031
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: is it?

1032
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: My music is really big, it's really like sonically textured.

1033
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm a big sensory person. I have a lot of

1034
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: sensory stuff and I love I just want my show

1035
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: to feel like a five Gum.

1036
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Commercial, you know what I mean. I want there to

1037
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: be subs a five Gum commercial, you know, like five

1038
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: Gum it's like feature.

1039
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Sensors and it's like someone laying on like a bow

1040
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: speaker that's the size of a football field and they're

1041
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: just like laying on it and like the gum. Yeah, yeah,

1042
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: so five Gum. I want my show to feel like

1043
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: a sensory experience like that. So we try and we

1044
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: do the whole heavy subs thing. My drummers are always

1045
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: much more rock oriented than country oriented, and it's just

1046
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: big and it's fun. And I do an acoustic set

1047
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: in the middle, which is very similar. It's like what

1048
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: I've gotten to do with you in the studio, and

1049
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: just to get to play my stuf acoustically for someone

1050
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: right in the middle of my set.

1051
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: But for the rest of the show, I don't hold

1052
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: a guitar or anything.

1053
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: I just went around and I find little girls in

1054
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: a crowd. Did I put a little faced hats on them?

1055
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: Later in the merch line?

1056
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Really, m I keep eyelining on me all the time,

1057
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: and I'll give them a little horse shoes if.

1058
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: They want it.

1059
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1060
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 6: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1061
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: What do you do before show? Any rituals?

1062
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: We have a pre show shot and a pre show

1063
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: prayer where we come together.

1064
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: As far as me personally, no, I we all still

1065
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: still kind of try and do everything and wear all

1066
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: the hats. So who knows how long sound check goes,

1067
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, and how much time you have ready to

1068
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: get ready afterwards.

1069
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: So it's always kind of a scramble for me.

1070
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: Do you ever stumble into a song at sound check?

1071
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: I have not.

1072
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: It's completely different than you. But wolves if we're doing it.

1073
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: If I'm doing a comedy show and i'm testing, you know,

1074
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: we're checking guitars, I'll just say funny stuff overcords. And

1075
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: there have been a few times where we're like, oh,

1076
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: this is actually a good idea. Let's just sit with

1077
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: it and play it and kind of flesh it out.

1078
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: I think we did a song called It's so trivial

1079
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: compared to what you do. But we wrote a song

1080
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 4: called your Mama's House right, and Matt Stell, the artist,

1081
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: and myself were up there. We were playing a show

1082
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, and we were just going back and forth

1083
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: but on stage together, and somebody made your mama joke

1084
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh man, we should do that

1085
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: with a song. And so he started playing something and

1086
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 4: I think it was like, man.

1087
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: I really love your mama's house. You can always find

1088
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: me there when you're not around.

1089
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: It got a good laugh, but we sort of just balanced.

1090
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: He's going back and forth, back and forth, and there's

1091
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: not always time for that there.

1092
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: But oh, right with your band? No, okay, I don't

1093
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: write with my band. So I was wondering if maybe

1094
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: you don't.

1095
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: I don't have a band, Like I said, I'm not

1096
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: you, You're actually good. I fake being good.

1097
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: That's not fair.

1098
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: I have a partner in Eddie.

1099
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: We have a band. I have Brandon and Brandon who

1100
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: works with me as well. We'll send each other voice memos.

1101
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: We'll never be in the same room and I'll just

1102
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: be like, hey, what about this?

1103
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: That's what about this? And we'll go back and forth

1104
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: and almost write, like here's the idea.

1105
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 4: Is this funny? What if you did this? And eighty

1106
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: five percent of the song gets written like that.

1107
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: I want to learn how to not be a performer

1108
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: in the writing room. I'm not very good at that

1109
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: also too, Like usually like I have my own room

1110
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: and the word document. I'm like, if you guys go

1111
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: in there, I swear to God leave me alone. Okay,

1112
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: you can read out loud all these other things I'm

1113
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: putting on the main page.

1114
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: But my room's my room. Get out of here.

1115
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: And like, if I have a chorus idea, I'm gonna

1116
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: play you the entire chorus, you know what I mean.

1117
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit with it. I'm gonna write the whole thing,

1118
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you if.

1119
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: You like it.

1120
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: And I wish I could get a little more not

1121
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: performer y in like the writing room.

1122
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: What about the vulnerability of the writing room?

1123
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: I think it depends on who I'm writing with. I

1124
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: have some people that.

1125
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: I'll call them up and I'll be like, Hey, I

1126
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: am not mentally okay or healthy or well today. Can

1127
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I come up and share with you what's going on

1128
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: and you kind of scribe it out for me, you

1129
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and see if we can turn

1130
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: it into something. And I've gotten to a point where

1131
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: those co writers sometimes are like, Ali, yes, but if

1132
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: you get over here and you're really not okay, we're

1133
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: not going to romanticize this today, Like we're not going

1134
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: to take everything you're going through and turn it into

1135
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: something for you to sing later when like you still

1136
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: are in this and like that's very few people, but

1137
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: I have two or three, And that is the coolest

1138
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: thing on the planet to not only have someone to

1139
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: go to to talk about that stuff, but to have

1140
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: someone stop you from performing and go, hey, you're having

1141
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: a really hard time right now, and the song you're

1142
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: writing is not even like reflecting these characters in a

1143
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: true way, Like you're just you're taking something that really

1144
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: hard that's happening to you, and we're watching you turn

1145
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: it into something that is pretty and packaged and going

1146
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: to be.

1147
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: Consumed by people.

1148
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: And I feel like, this is what you're working really

1149
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: hard to not do, and that's really cool.

1150
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: And then I have other people where.

1151
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: You just get in there and you write the song

1152
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: and it's almost all for them, like as an artist

1153
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: or for somebody else. And I get to put on

1154
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: the songwriter hat that day and my job is to

1155
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: sit there and and mediate someone's feelings and to help

1156
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: them kind of put it into something which is always different.

1157
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: But the songwriting community in Nashville is so diverse and

1158
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: it's so different, and so each write is different. It's

1159
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: on way two, which I love with the ADHD brain

1160
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: of like not wanting to do the same thing ever again,

1161
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, so you can always do something different with

1162
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: the co writers in Nashville.

1163
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: The EP, there's five songs on it. Why just five songs?

1164
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: These were the five that I didn't think anyone would

1165
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: ever relate to. These are the five that I didn't

1166
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: think were commercial. These are the five that Ali cared about,

1167
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: and she couldn't get past them, you know, I wasn't

1168
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna go and release another single that I thought was

1169
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: super commercial when I had these five that I've sat on.

1170
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Sincerely rolling Stone I've sat on since twenty twenty one,

1171
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: and I love that song, and these are the five

1172
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: that I just wanted to put out as a very

1173
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: sincere This is how like, this is what a reflection

1174
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: of Ali's world is right now, these songs.

1175
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 4: I have a question then, because the EPE is Sincerely

1176
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 4: rolling Stone, But isn't the song just called rolling Stone? Because

1177
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: now I'm confused, So.

1178
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: The song is called rolling Stone parentheses sincerely or sincerely

1179
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: Prince of rolling Stone, however you want to do it absolutely,

1180
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, everyone asked about this. Our first album was

1181
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: the same way. The first album is called Stones prince Ss.

1182
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't give a and people never know what the

1183
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: song title is, so I'm eclectic.

1184
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: Like the EP is Sincerely Camma Rollingly rolling Stone, but

1185
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: track one is rolling Stone prince ye sincerely yes.

1186
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: Because the song is the song is I want to

1187
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: be your Rock, and I'm sorry that I'm not Sincerely

1188
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: You're rolling Stone. So the EP is Sincerely rolling Stone

1189
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: because this is a sincere project from me, and the

1190
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: song is just called rolling Stone, because that's what people

1191
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: come up and request. They say, well, you play the

1192
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: rolling Stone song, so it's called rolling Stone.

1193
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 3: People were requesting it before we put out.

1194
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: I've been playing this live since twenty twenty one.

1195
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: And if people were requesting it then, I don't know

1196
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: why would you think that song would be the most

1197
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: non commercial or.

1198
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: No, probably lying to me, Bobby, here we go. Now

1199
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: we're getting to the trauma again. We're going back, probably

1200
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: lying to me. All five of these songs they're different.

1201
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: I mean even when listening because I tell you what,

1202
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: this was easy to listen to because it's only five.

1203
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: Sometimes people will be like, here's seventy three songs.

1204
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 3: I don't even listen to all of them.

1205
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, put this in your notes. Bobby will listen to

1206
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 2: seventy three songs.

1207
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 3: I know that. But Bobby will be like, I didn't

1208
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: get a chance to hear them all. So but.

1209
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: These five songs, I mean, I don't know that they

1210
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 4: Now that you say how that project is what it means,

1211
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: it makes more sense then because they all five don't

1212
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: fit perfectly together. Is that insulting in anyway? Because I

1213
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: didn't feel like But now it makes sense. If that's

1214
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: why you pick the five?

1215
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: These are my five, you know what I mean? It's

1216
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: not this was not a rolled out out Do we

1217
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: have this song on it? Do we have one of

1218
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: these songs on it? Do we have one of these songs?

1219
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: Cause that's what I expect most of the time now

1220
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: whenever it's hey, we're releasing whatever the project is. We

1221
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: need a mid we need an up, we need it down,

1222
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 4: we need a set. You know, there were these roles

1223
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: that the song has to play. I didn't feel that

1224
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: this meant that criteria.

1225
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have it at all.

1226
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: These are the five that meant the world to me

1227
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: that I wasn't sure if anyone else was going.

1228
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: To care about.

1229
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: And but my I have a really really amazing close following,

1230
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: like of like the followers that I have, Like I'm

1231
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: very close to my following. You have a really private

1232
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: fan club that like gets together for like Thanksgiving and

1233
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's really special to me, and they

1234
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: the cool kids have been asking for these.

1235
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: Five songs for the last couple of years all the time.

1236
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: So I thought I'm going to put together since your

1237
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: project of Ali because the single world is always chasing

1238
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: you know what, represents me as a commercial artist, like

1239
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: it always has been, always will be.

1240
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: It's how it's structured to do that.

1241
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: And so if there was a single from this, it

1242
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: was Grass and the Grave, and we released that as

1243
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: a single before it came out. But yeah, they're not

1244
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to go together. And then also Household

1245
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: Name was something that I was never gonna be too

1246
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: confident about releasing as a single because I didn't want

1247
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: all the attention to be on Household Name. I wanted

1248
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: to be a part of a project, and a sincere

1249
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: project did that. So Household Name made it on this one,

1250
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: which was one that I wasn't sure if I was

1251
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: ever going to share with anybody, And it's one of

1252
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: my favorite songs on there only because it's sonically achieves

1253
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: everything I've wanted to.

1254
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: It's like the.

1255
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: Thunder rolls of Amy Lee in Three Days Grace, which

1256
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: is like my favorite thing on the plane. Am Yes, Yeah,

1257
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: I listened to forty seven minutes of thunder pre roll

1258
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: to pick the probably second and a half of thunder

1259
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: that's in Household Name.

1260
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of that.

1261
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: I picked under a pre roll just searching thunder sounds

1262
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: and just listening to everyone because I needed the perfect

1263
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: thunder crash, like I needed the perfect thunder that would

1264
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: have been in thunder Rolls but wasn't and would represent

1265
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: Allie and I picked it out. I was so proud

1266
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: of it. So I had a lot of fun creating

1267
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: this project. But it's not for I don't feel like

1268
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: it's for commercial listeners. I feel like it's for the

1269
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: people that care about Ali and represents exactly what our

1270
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: next chapter of music commercially is going to be.

1271
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: Then do this for me as we end, because I

1272
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 4: want to play on the National Accuntdown show Grass on

1273
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: the Grave, So I was like a good SoundBite, So

1274
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: just tell me what the song's about, so then I

1275
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: don't have to edit anything together.

1276
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: I can just play this clip. Of course, go ahead.

1277
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: Grass and the Grave is just a song for you

1278
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: to grieve all of your plants, whatever they are.

1279
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: For me, it was a relationship. It was an entire future.

1280
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: It was a marriage. For some people, it.

1281
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: Was a vacation in twenty twenty that they budgeted for

1282
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: three years that they never got to take. For some

1283
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: people with fertility. For some people, it's all of these

1284
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: different things. And Grass and the grave. It's just a

1285
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: real cool sonic song that isn't supposed to be too heavy,

1286
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: isn't supposed to be too hard. It just allows you

1287
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: three minutes of absolute frustration of what something was supposed

1288
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: to be. But you're still going to be okay because

1289
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: there's grass in the grave.

1290
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: You know that.

1291
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 4: Except you had no choice but to nail it because

1292
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: it's your story. You really couldn't have not nailed it.

1293
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1294
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: Would you have been like, do it? Reframe it?

1295
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd give us a reframe? Yeah? Can you?

1296
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: Can you say it again? But better?

1297
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: You're extremely magnetic as a person.

1298
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: Are my magnets on the right side?

1299
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter it does.

1300
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: One will push you away and one will drag in.

1301
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what pushes someone away?

1302
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: Have you seen that? My therapist did that with me

1303
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: with magnets.

1304
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't I temporarily would push someone away.

1305
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 3: I think we probably all are magnets. All change.

1306
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I've been pushed away by certain

1307
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: magnets that later I've realized, Oh, I shouldn't have been

1308
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: pushed away at all. I should have actually, But that's

1309
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 4: what probably pushed me away was feeling so uncomfortable that

1310
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: I wanted to be drawn so.

1311
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: Quick give on polarities crazy.

1312
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: I've spent a lot of money in therapy.

1313
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 2: I haven't portocols completely.

1314
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: Free good for you and good for everybody.

1315
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: Who feel like it'd be free for you also, but yeah.

1316
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. They think I'm an artist enough. And

1317
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: also I like my therapist to be really close to

1318
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: my house.

1319
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 4: So I actually I go to a My wife and

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Speaker 4: I go to therapy every two weeks. We've been going

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00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: since before we got well, I guess right when we

1322
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: got married.

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Speaker 2: That's hot.

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00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 4: It's awesome, except it's not like it's hard. Oh yeah, no,

1325
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: for sure, it's hot, but it has I think for

1326
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 4: me the.

1327
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Part it is hot, and you can quote me on that.

1328
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 4: I don't know that I will, but I will say

1329
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 4: that it has allowed me to live in an uncomfortable

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: moment with my wife. And I never really had a

1331
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 4: relationship that was intimate where it I just thought everything

1332
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 4: intimate had to be perfect.

1333
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: No feeling uncomfortable and feeling safe at the same time.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, and for me, that has been the most

1335
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: growth I've had is that it's okay for to be

1336
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 4: comfortable and uncomfortable and to live in it. Yeah, because

1337
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 4: that's what happens with normal humans. I didn't have normal

1338
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: human relationships, so I didn't know. I thought every time

1339
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: we fought, she hates me, it's over.

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: No. The only time I could get you to talk

1341
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: about anything personal last time was if it was about you.

1342
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Speaker 2: And your dogs.

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Speaker 4: That's about it. And now it's a bit different. Yeah,

1344
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: so we I've been able to grow in that a lot.

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Speaker 3: And then my.

1346
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: Personal I go every other week to my own as well.

1347
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: He's a psychiatrist and he can give medicine. Hell yeah,

1348
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: and I took a bunch of OCD medicine. I was

1349
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: on for a long time because I sometimes I get way,

1350
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: way way obsessed with things.

1351
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 3: I like, thirty pounds. I need to help it all. Yeah,

1352
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: I put on thirty pounds.

1353
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just like, I'd rather be focused and not

1354
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: I have to buy new clothes. I was having to

1355
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: buy pants, and I was like, what's happening right now?

1356
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: My wife was like, did you check your medicine?

1357
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: Scary?

1358
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's scary. And the medicine is like you will

1359
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: gain three pounds a month or whatever it was, and

1360
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: I was like, how did I know this?

1361
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: So he's something else for you to be OCD about.

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: That's great, exactly. Now I'm OCD about not being on

1363
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 4: OCD medicine. So yeah, it's been a big part of

1364
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: my life. I'm glad to hear that you're so open

1365
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 4: about it as well, because I think people need to

1366
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: hear people talking about the benefits of it and not

1367
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: the stigma of it.

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: Oh, it's incredible. Yeah, it's absolutely so.

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: I appreciate you being so open about it and talking

1370
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: about it than you and you got the good magnets.

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00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: You're north, I'm south right now we're drawn. You're very magnetic.

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Speaker 4: You guys can follow Ali. We put all of our

1373
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 4: information down Ali's information down below, and we talked about

1374
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: it before she got here, So nothing has changed since

1375
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 4: we spoke before Ali got here, at least I don't

1376
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: think so, right, Mike.

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 3: I'll still clear.

1378
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: Ali great to see as always, and congratulations on the record.

1379
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: And now it all makes sense, but nothing ever makes

1380
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 4: fully sense. And if it does start to make sense,

1381
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: then you don't actually understand it.

1382
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: You can quote me on that.

1383
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: I probably will.

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00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: No way you can remember that because I don't even

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00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: rememb I just said, all right, that's it, Thank you

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.