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Speaker 1: Forty one Action News digs deeper and get to answers

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Speaker 1: about what happens to Adrian Jones. Investigator Jessica McMaster now

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Speaker 1: uncovered exclusive evidence he was just a typical little boy,

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Speaker 1: just full of life. Adrian's dad and step mom abused

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Speaker 1: him for months. He just had the most amazing smile

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Speaker 1: never before seeing. Video takes us inside Adrian's last moment.

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Speaker 1: You can see the look of nothing in his eyes.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. So you eat

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Speaker 1: out of the trash? Could you keep on getting cold?

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Speaker 1: Could you're outside? In this video, you can hear Heather's

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Speaker 1: harsh words towards Adrian and a lack of compassion for

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Speaker 1: Adrian's life spent stripped and confined to a shower stall,

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Speaker 1: left outside overnight to stand in a filthy pool. New

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Speaker 1: records show with the State of Kansas knew before the

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Speaker 1: death of little seven year old Adrian Jones. We learned

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Speaker 1: as early as twenty eleven, d c F had allegations

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Speaker 1: of Adrian's abuse, hundreds of red flags. They should have known.

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Speaker 1: That's just not good enough. They should have known. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: they knew. Kansas Department of Children Family Services records show

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Speaker 1: that police, doctors, social workers, they were all aware of

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Speaker 1: the horrific abuse a little boy, Adrian Jones, suffered before

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Speaker 1: his brutal death, his horrible death. Why did they let

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Speaker 1: him die? And why is everybody afraid to call for

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Speaker 1: criminal charges against defects workers that knew this child was

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Speaker 1: in danger. I've had it. I've had it with a

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Speaker 1: whole kid and kimboodle. This seven year old boy, beautiful

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Speaker 1: baby boy, is dead after suffering years of horrific abuse.

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Speaker 1: With me now on Crime Stories is the reporter that

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Speaker 1: cracked the whole thing wide open? I Nancy Grace, this

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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. And

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Speaker 1: if you are a parent, if you ever hope to

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Speaker 1: be a parent, or if you even care about children,

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Speaker 1: this is going to make your blood boil with me, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: make masters with action forty one out of Kansas City

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Speaker 1: k S h B. Jessica, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand pages were just released detailing how case workers, doctors,

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Speaker 1: social workers, police, they all knew where this boy was

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Speaker 1: going through. This is a crime, Jessica, Start at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: What do you know? I think the most interesting thing

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Speaker 1: about reading through this several ty Jes is that Kansas

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Speaker 1: did identify the stepmother, Heather Jones, is a threat to

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Speaker 1: the children. Almost immediately after Michael received custody of his

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Speaker 1: three kids and it started. He got custody in September

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Speaker 1: of two thousand eleven. Within a couple of months, Heather

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Speaker 1: took his youngest child, who was under the age of three,

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Speaker 1: because Asian was three and was older than this child,

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Speaker 1: to the emergency room and said that that child had

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Speaker 1: fallen down the stairs. Well, this child had internal bleeding,

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Speaker 1: bruises on their face, and she took the child there

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Speaker 1: because she had been having seizures, and she told Heather

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Speaker 1: told doctors that Adrian, a three years old, pushed the

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Speaker 1: They said that the injuries did not mapped up with

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Speaker 1: falling down carpeted stairs. Heather, how do you get all

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Speaker 1: of those was those bruises to the face and head

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Speaker 1: from a fall down what maybe seven or eight stairs

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Speaker 1: plus internal bleeding? Uh, that's not right. I've heard that

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Speaker 1: stare excuse about a thousand times too many. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: She then came back and said that Adrian also hit

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Speaker 1: they did start investigating her for abuse. In Kansas, social

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Speaker 1: workers told Michael Adrian's father that she was not allowed

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Speaker 1: He also said that things seemed to happen to the

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Speaker 1: it appears that he was suspicious of her as well

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Speaker 1: then when they moved to Missouri, then they crossed that

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Speaker 1: those social workers were informed about the safety plan involving Heather,

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Speaker 1: So when they went to the home, it's not clear

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Speaker 1: ifhose social workers knew that she wasn't supposed to be

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Speaker 1: details all of this, including the surveillage footed surveillance footage

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Speaker 1: it's just unimaginable stuff. They kept him confined to a

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Speaker 1: like they were proud of it. What what what did

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Speaker 1: can hardly stand to even hear what was being said.

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Speaker 1: The grandmother of the boy now wants all the records

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Speaker 1: is incredible is that they actually kept a log on

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Speaker 1: surveillance video of how they brutalized the little boy. And amazingly,

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Speaker 1: in all of these documents that we have just obtained,

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Speaker 1: state left Adrian in their care. They did right, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: so it's just was a huge domino effect. It was

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm hearing. I'm hearing blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: That's all it matters. Because during one meeting, the social

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Speaker 1: report with not even seeing the little boy. She leaves

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Speaker 1: Alan Duke helped me understand why this boy went through

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Speaker 1: this and was killed. They knew about it. It's a

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Speaker 1: seventy mile drive between Kansas City, Missouri and Topeka, Kansas. So, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there any repercussion at all, Jessica, other

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Speaker 1: than for Michael and Heather, You know no. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Nobody's at least getting fired. I mean, I think they

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Speaker 1: and they let the boy die. They let him die.

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Speaker 1: Just hoping to get answers, We're still pushing. I was

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Speaker 1: it has to be a discussion. We don't know anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't even know what the basic policies

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