1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: What's f's way up at Angela Yee And it is 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Wealth Wednesday time. You know, we love that time of 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: the week. And my partner, my co host, Stacy Tisdale 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: is here. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: Happy Wealth Wednesdays, everybody, This is big. Wealth Wednesdays is 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: very thrilled to be shining a light on Black Business 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Month August. And not only are we shining a light 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: on Black Business Month, but we are going to have 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: a guest co host for the remainder of the month, 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: John Templeton, who was the founder and creator of Black 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: Business Month. He also in two thousand and four he 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: created the State of Black Business Report, which you'll learn 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: about that really changed the way things happen for black businesses. 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: Very excited to talk about that. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: And we have joining us for this first celebration of 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: Black Business Month, the one and only Michelle Anthony. Hey, 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: and you're going to learn so much about this woman 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: who has founder See of Anthony and Associates. She knows 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: the government contracting space like you would not believe and 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: has a tremendous story. So Wealth Wednesday getting on it 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: for Black. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Business and we are talking about Wealth today for real, 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: all right, John William Timbleton let's start with you and 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: National Black Business Month and the creation of that. Can 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: you just give us some insight into what made you 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: decide to do this? What National Black Business Month is. 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: Well, the last speech that Martin Luther King gave, he said, 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: I may not get there with you, but we as 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: a people are going to get to the promised Land. 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: So what we've done for the last twenty one years 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: through our State of Black Business Report, is actually defined 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: what it is. Because if you don't know where we're going, 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: we're never going to get there, right right. So ten 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: years ago we created our ten Plan, the African American 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: Economic Strategy. So it's ten very simple things that actually 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: solve most of the problems that we have. So we 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: want to increase the number of African American businesses that 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: have employees to ten percent of the black businesses, so 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: that would be from one hundred and sixty thousand to 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 4: four hundred thousand. We want to make sure that ten 41 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: percent of African American income is capital at African American banks. 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: There are seven hundred thousand business loans made every year 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: according to the Fair Reserve, only ten thousand of them 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: are made to black businesses and sixty percent of those 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 4: are by black banks. So it's real simple. The more 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 4: money black banks have, the. 47 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: More money that goes into our community. So our black businesses. 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: Yes, and so it's our money, so we can decide 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: where it goes. So it's very simple to direct it 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: to the places that support us. And we also share 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: a goal with the National Association of Real Estate Brokers 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: to have two million new Black homeowners. So Stacey joined 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 4: us in Brooklyn, and I know a place that you 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: know and love. So I'm chairman of the Central Bookly 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: Economic Development Corporation. 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: My fault, she wasn't there. I didn't give her the address. 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: Oh we know where to find her, right, So I've 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: been chairman there for five years and we are using 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: it as a template for how to create prosperous black 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: neighborhoods for the people who live there. So Brownsville is 61 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: the densest concentration of public housing in the world, but 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: we've had for the last three years, had the steepest 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: decline in violent crime in New York City. And so 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: we announced Brownsville Advanced Manufacturing Center, where we're going to 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: have companies come in and make AI maintenance drones for 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: offshore wind and have companies come in and do cybersecurity. 67 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: And we're redeveloping the Belmont Corridor and bringing in the 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: movie theaters, restaurants, that sort of thing, so that the 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: one point five billion dollars just in Brownsville stays in Brownsville, 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: and that's going to be the template for what we're 71 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: doing around the country. So we're opening advanced manufacturing centers 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: in La to do AI chips in Oakland, do a 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: sound stage for a movie theater in San Francisco where 74 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: I live. We're opening the Sergeant Johnson National Museum of 75 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: African American Art. 76 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: Wow. So just to give everybody a sense this whole 77 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: mission and the reason that we're focused on this for 78 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Wealth Wednesdays is we focus so much on entrepreneurship. There's 79 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: so many entrepreneurs out there, and we have a very 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: strong small business mindset that we're proud of. But we 81 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: have to get out of a small business mindset and 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: we have to think create industries. We have to think 83 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: create communities. And just gonna blow your mind with this woman, 84 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Michelle in just a moment, but John, just to talk 85 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: about the way you put things in action. You help entrepreneurs. 86 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: You helped get sixteen billion dollars to nine hundred thousand 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: African American entrepreneurs in twenty twenty one. So we're talking 88 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: about big scale people and entrepreneurs out there should be 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: listening because we got ways for you to get part 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: of that money too. Talk about that. 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, we changed the rules on the PPP loans. In 92 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: the first year the PPP, only ten thousand African American 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: businesses got loans about five hundred million dollars, which we 94 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: think that's a lot of money, right, But they gave 95 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: out seven hundred big right, So. 96 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: It was so hard for certain companies to be able 97 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: to get that money. 98 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: Because, yeah, intersting bank relationship and we didn't. So we 99 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: changed the rules. So you go directly to the SBA, 100 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: and we're from ten thousand to nine hundred and ninety thousand. 101 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: So this year there's another program called the State Small 102 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: Business Credit Initiative, and the Treasury is sent all this 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: money to the States to loan the small businesses. No 104 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: small businesses know about it money, it's just sitting there. 105 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: And so during August, we want to make sure that 106 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: a million African American businesses apply to the State Small 107 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 4: Business Credit and you go to our site black money 108 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 4: dot Com and to each state. 109 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: For each. 110 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: Everybody, we have the contact person for the state Small 111 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 4: Business Credit Initiative and also for the Hollings Manufacturing Extension Program. 112 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: The government will show you everything you need to know 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: to go into manufacturing because manufacturing is what stabilizes the community. 114 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: Once again, people don't know that right. The other thing 115 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: that we have on each state is the USDA Rule 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: Development Agency. The USDA is the only agency that can 117 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: build a city from scratch, right, so everything you need 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 4: to build a city, USDA can do. Once again, we 119 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: don't know about it. So those three things we want 120 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: to make sure everybody is engaged in that because Michelle 121 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: will mention to you the last quarter of their federal 122 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 4: fiscal year is when federal agencies are just trying to 123 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: get rid of all the money left and we need 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: to be in the mix. Make sure we have our 125 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: sam codes so do we actually know what's going on? 126 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And we have just to make it easy for everybody. 127 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: If you follow Wealth Wednesdays on Instagram, we have the 128 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: link in our bio. You go, it's blackmoney dot Com 129 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: slash thirty one ways thirty one days. And you know 130 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: it's impossible almost to get in the rooms where the 131 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: actual deals are made. But every night during the month 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: of August you are going to be invited into those 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: rooms for live deal making sessions. So again that's black 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Money dot Com thirty one ways and thirty one days. 135 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: We want to help you scale. 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of scaling, this person has done. You are 137 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: the youngest of seven, grew up in Montgomery, Alabama during 138 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, and at fourteen years old, developed found 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: out that you loved courts stenography. I'm going to just 140 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: shut up now, Michelle. 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm all the way from Montgomery, Alabama, born and 142 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: raised and grew up pretty poor, you know, typical grew 143 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: up in the hood, you know. But what was different 144 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 5: back then, though still dealing with like governor former Governor 145 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 5: Wallace and then the mayor was Emory Farmer, and they 146 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 5: still had a system going on in my government at 147 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 5: the time that you know, even though segregation and the 148 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: science had come off the walls, but it was still 149 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: being implemented day to day. So growing up, you knew 150 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: your place, and you knew your side of town, and 151 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: there was their side of town. So at the age 152 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: of actually I was thirteen going on fourteen. There's a 153 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 5: program under President Carter at the time called the Sita Program, 154 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 5: and it was a program wherein the government would give 155 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: one child and a family a job, and surprisingly I 156 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: was chosen. And my sister was two years older than me. 157 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: She was fifteen and I was thirteen. I have no 158 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: idea about child labor laws. I don't know any of 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 5: that other than I think that that was the beginning 160 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: of God's favor shifting my life in this direction. So 161 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: at thirteen, I was placed in the Montgomery County Courthouse. 162 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: Went to the. 163 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 5: Courthouse and for the first time I was able to 164 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: sit in the back of a courtroom and just watch 165 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: the court cases all day long. As I was sitting there, 166 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: there was a lady at the front of the courthouse. 167 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: And she would just be I would just see her. 168 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: Fingers moving and her head would go from side to side, 169 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 5: but she was never speaking, and I was so you know, 170 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: children are so impressionable. I was like, what is she doing? 171 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: So I finally got the courage one day and she 172 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: happened to be white. So I had never interacted with 173 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 5: a white person before because I lived on the black 174 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 5: side of town, so we didn't go over there. And 175 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: so when I saw her, I was, you know, finally 176 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: got the courage to go up and ask her. And 177 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: she told me what it was, and that you had 178 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 5: to be able to type two hundred and twenty five 179 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: words a minute and you take down and everything that's 180 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 5: said and then you you know, And she pulled out 181 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: the little tape out of her machine, showing me the shorthand. 182 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: And from that day I was sold. I had never 183 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: seen anything, and I fell in love with the law. 184 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: And I say that as my background because the law 185 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: has been very, very very important in my ability to 186 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: scale and grow because I love the law. Also, you know, 187 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: you have to be willing to read the law. You 188 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: have to be able to try and comprehend what's being said. 189 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 5: So as a court reporter, I spent about fifteen years 190 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 5: in courtrooms, taking all types of cases, everything from capital 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: murder you know, as best as you know accidents. So 192 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: what it did was it was building a very well 193 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 5: rounded atmosphere for me to see expert witnesses, the best attorneys, 194 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 5: the worst attorneys, best judges. Why why people got away 195 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 5: with stuff. 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: While you were working for yourself. 197 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: I was working for myself and I did, and so 198 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: we would produce the record, which was an official document. 199 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 5: And because these records contained the verbatim. 200 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: Word of what was spoken. 201 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: If someone had a capital murder case, my transcripts had 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: to be correct. So that's how I've applied that to 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 5: government contracting the documents I produced. I have that same 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 5: mindset the level of importance of what I produced. So 205 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: after I left home and went into the military, I 206 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: went into the military. After going into the military, I 207 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 5: had some issues in the military that caused me to 208 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 5: exit early. And those issues a lot of times, well 209 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 5: back then, there were no rules in place to protect 210 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: women in the military. 211 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: We were just put. 212 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 5: Alongside the male soldiers or what have you, and there 213 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: was just literally at that time. 214 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: It wasn't sexual harassmental way. 215 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: It hadn't even been defined in the dictionary. 216 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 5: Anita Hill had not even taken Clarence Thomas on the Hill, 217 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: so none of those rules applied. So there were a 218 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 5: lot of issues that were going on and women were 219 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 5: suffering in the military, but they had no voice. So 220 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 5: I eventually got out, went in to the Court Reporting 221 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: Academy and was just on top of my game top 222 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: and class did everything. I was so excited because I 223 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: was getting ready to live my dream and my dad 224 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 5: bought all of my equipment. 225 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: You know, he had me all ready to go, you 226 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 227 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 5: A proud dad, and got out was the person that 228 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: was next in line for my internships and all that. 229 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: Every court reporting agency that I went to in the 230 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: Hampton Roads, Virginia area. 231 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: Were owned by white firm owners and so they had 232 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: it on lock. 233 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 5: And it was what was going on was they had 234 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: verbal agreements dating back to the seventies and the eighties 235 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 5: that they wouldn't compete against each other, and so that 236 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 5: you know, so the firm that had Norfolk Circuit Court, 237 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: they wouldn't compete against the firm that had the one 238 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: in Virginia Beach. So what happened was if you were 239 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: not a part of the clique or one of the 240 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: people that they accepted, you would just have to go 241 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 5: back to whatever you were doing beforehand, because they wouldn't 242 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: even let you when you were locked out. 243 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Were there other black women or black people doing this way, as. 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 5: There were, but the majority of them had opted to 245 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: go back to what they used to do before because 246 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: they couldn't get a job, and I thought that was ridiculous. 247 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: And I was fresh out of the army, and I 248 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 5: was determined, you know, I want to be a court reporter. 249 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna court report in somebody's court room. So it 250 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 5: was this determination that I've always had, no matter what 251 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 5: the obstacle has been, no matter whether it's discrimination, whatever 252 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 5: it was, I've always had this mindset that I was 253 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 5: going to do whatever I felt I wanted to do, 254 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: and I wasn't going to be stopped. 255 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: So you started your own comfort. 256 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 5: So yes, So what happened was my dad had bought 257 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 5: all my equipment, I had passed everything, I was ready 258 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: to go. 259 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: It was just because of the color of my skin. 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: So I decided and I prayed, and I was led 261 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 5: to reach out to Christian attorneys and black attorneys, and 262 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: they invited me to the Black Bar Association meeting and 263 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: I explained to them. And as I was there talking 264 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 5: to them, they realized that they hadn't been seeing any 265 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 5: black court reporters out of Norfolk, Virginia, Beach, Chesapeake, Hampton, Portsmouth, 266 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: Newport News, all of those cities. So when I said it, 267 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 5: it was like the light bulb came on. They all 268 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 5: started giving me their business. I started taking their depositions 269 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 5: and all this other stuff. So that's how the business 270 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: was formed, was because I couldn't get a job. And 271 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: so once I did that, I decided to challenge the 272 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 5: powers that be. Well when I challenged them, of course 273 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: I got black ball because I was trying to get 274 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: a written contract at that time, and they told me. 275 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: One of the judges told me one of these. 276 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: Firm owners would have to die, retire, or sell their 277 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: business before we'll. 278 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: Give you a contract. Wow, he literally did. So guess 279 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: what I did. 280 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: I did my due diligence, my research, and I realized 281 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: that his career goal was he wanted to be on 282 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: the State Supreme Court. So I decided to put a 283 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: package together because I knew how to put evidence together. 284 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: I put a package together and I sent it to 285 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: the State of Virginia Supreme Court and I turned him 286 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: in and so so they eventually. 287 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: Decided for the City of Norfolk. 288 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: They put it out to bid, and guess what I bid, 289 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 5: And I was the lowest bidder, and they still wouldn't 290 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: give it to me. 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: So they went through. 292 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: The motion, went through the motion and I was getting 293 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 5: death threats at that time because I was messing with 294 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: people's money, and so I ended up talking with another attorney, 295 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 5: mister Bill Robinson, bless his heart and bless his soul. 296 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 5: He was a Virginia General Assembly representative. So he put 297 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: forth legislation on the floor to make that mandatory that 298 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 5: they because those were state dollars. Any person that's convicted 299 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 5: of a felony, their cases, every piece of any piece 300 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: of their litigation, anything regarding their case, has to have 301 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: a record, has to have an official record. And so 302 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: what happened was, mister Robinson, they put it forth. So 303 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 5: it passed in the House overwhelmingly, and it lost in 304 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: the Senate by four votes. And I was told some 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 5: of the judges called in some favors from some of 306 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: their old buddy boyfriends and they killed it in the Senate. 307 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: No problem, I'm still determined. I'm going to do this. 308 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: Wow, most people would have given up. 309 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: Oh no, not me. 310 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: So then I prayed again, and all of a sudden, 311 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: it was right around the time that Anita Hill took 312 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 5: Clarence Thomas on the Hill, and all of a sudden, 313 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: there was this big burst of federal claims of sexual harassment, 314 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: workplace discrimination. All of that was birth then, and all 315 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 5: of a sudden they needed court reporters all around the country. 316 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 5: And here was I and there were people who looked 317 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 5: like me who wanted to give me a chance. So 318 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: that's how the first case I took was for the 319 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: Army Corps of Engineers out of Norfolk, Virginia, and her 320 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 5: name was Rosemary Whitehurst. 321 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: Bless her heart and bless her soul. 322 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 5: She gave me my first federal case, and I began 323 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 5: to take that model, and I grew it, and I 324 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 5: grew it, and then I went back and I hired 325 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: those black girls that had gone to school with me 326 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 5: that didn't get a job. 327 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: I went back and hired as many of them as 328 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: I could. 329 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety seven, I started the first black court 330 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: reporting firm in Hampton Roads, and I do have the 331 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: newspaper articles and things like that from it. 332 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: But we made history. 333 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: And there a couple of things that are notable is 334 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: that she signed out the help of Black Trade associations, 335 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: and what we do each day during thirty one Raysed 336 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: thirty one days is let people know what the Black 337 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: trade associations are for each industry, because we have this 338 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: limited idea of what black businesses are, so we don't 339 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: think about black court reporters, We don't think about black 340 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: folks doing cybersecurity or AI chips or anything like that. 341 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: But there are associations of black people in each of 342 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: those fields, and so by identifying associations, then people don't 343 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: have to feel like they're fighting these battles alone. 344 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: That's really helpful. 345 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: So you. 346 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: Did all that, and then you moved to Atlanta and 347 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: created Anthony and associates, and then you moved to Atlanta 348 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: to really scale it. Yes, and that's when the world 349 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: of government contracting. 350 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: We have to hear about this because we hear about 351 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: government contracts all the time and how important that is 352 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: for people to be able to scale their businesses. And 353 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: I feel like so many people like government contacting government contracting, 354 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: but as you can attest to, not a lot of 355 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: black businesses actually get these government contracts. 356 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: And Michelle has gotten millions and millions of dollars, millions 357 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars and government contracting. So dare we 358 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: say a billion? I'm just gonna shut up now, and Okay, 359 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 2: so tell us how government contracting helped you scale and 360 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: develop a AI into what it is now. 361 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: So once I moved to Atlanta, that's when all of 362 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 5: a sudden, I started understanding that there were more things 363 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: I could offer the federal government. And so as I 364 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: began to research and understand better how to utilize the 365 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: systems and the tools that were available. You know, that 366 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 5: was very very critical doing my due diligence, doing my research, 367 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 5: because what I had done is I have been performing 368 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 5: extremely well, and I had one client with to its 369 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 5: military Sealift Command, and they had given me their work 370 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 5: from like nineteen ninety eight all the way to like 371 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine or something, 372 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: maybe even longer than that. So I was exposed to 373 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 5: the federal government, but I was still doing the court reporting. Now, 374 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: mind you, I had the small business mindset at that time. 375 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 5: I never dreamed that I could make a million dollars. 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: I never dreamed of that. I just you know, the 377 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: truth of the matter was I just wanted a job 378 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: and they wouldn't give me a job. So they made 379 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: me mad. And so when they made me upset, I 380 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: really started thinking outside of the box. 381 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: Right your backwards against the wall. A lot of times, 382 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: that's when you make those critical moves. 383 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 5: And I have four children, so I was like, you know, 384 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 5: and I'm thinking, like the mind of that the female 385 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: line is, you know, hey, the cubs got to eat. 386 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 5: So in my mind, I always keep that in mind. 387 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: So as I got to Atlanta and I started networking 388 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: and meeting other people because down in Hampton Roads, you're 389 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: not in the mecca. 390 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: Washington, d C. Is the mecca. That's where all of 391 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: the major wheeling and dealing and. 392 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: All that other stuff is going on. So if you're 393 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 5: outside of that space, I learned quickly you need to 394 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 5: build relationships. So I started building key relationships. I started 395 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 5: attending different conferences and different things to get information. Then 396 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: I started realizing that's really not producing the results I'm 397 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 5: looking for. So I was like, Okay, so you're going 398 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 5: you're paying all this money and you're not really getting it. 399 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: Okay, where is it? How do I do it? 400 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: So then I started understanding the value of relationships teaming, 401 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 5: and then I started remembering the value of the experts 402 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 5: that would give their testimony in the different areas that 403 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 5: the attorneys were not familiar with, but they would always 404 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: bring in an expert. So I started combining all these things. 405 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: In my mind. 406 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 5: The government does something that they call market research, so 407 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 5: I needed to do market research. So I started researching 408 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 5: my competitors, researching what else I could do. And I 409 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: also had been I had been awarded the eight A 410 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: EIGHTAC certification, So when I was in Hampton Rose, I 411 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: didn't know what I had. But by the time I 412 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 5: got to Atlanta and started you know, Atlanta is another 413 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 5: business mecca, but it's not as focused on the federal 414 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 5: government as other areas. 415 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: But I had a lot of people telling me, oh, 416 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: you know. 417 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 5: What, you know, you have that aight A And I 418 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 5: was like, yeah, what is that? The aight A certification 419 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 5: is another social economic certification that the SBA will give minorities. Basically, 420 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: they'll give it to anyone that now they've changed the 421 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: rule because of the attack on DEI and affirmative action, 422 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 5: so you have to write a letter now explaining how 423 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 5: you've been disadvantaged. But prior to you didn't have to 424 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 5: do that and writing a letter. I can tell anybody 425 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: how to write the letter you need to write. But anyway, 426 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: so the aight A program is a program where they 427 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: will set aside soul source contracts up to four million 428 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 5: dollars in value if you have an eight A certification, 429 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 5: and so you have to apply and be approved for 430 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 5: the eight A and that gives small businesses an opportunity 431 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 5: to get their foot in the door, right, But there's 432 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: a there's a catch to that. It's a nine year program. 433 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 5: Most people get hooked on the soul source and they 434 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: don't want to do the work to learn how to compete. See, 435 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: if you're gonna do government contracting, you can't live off 436 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: soul sources. You need to be able to compete against 437 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 5: your competitors. And when and once you start building up 438 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: that pedigree and you have that capability, you're unstoppable. So 439 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: for me, in the A day program, I received multiple 440 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 5: That's where I got my first million dollar And what 441 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: was it? I got my first million dollar contract two 442 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 5: months after I moved to to Atlanta. 443 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: To do what court reporting. 444 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 5: I was doing court report nationwide, court reporting all fifty states, 445 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: all the rural areas. Because back in the day when 446 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: they were building the atomic bombs, there were nuclear plants 447 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 5: that a lot of people were working in and now 448 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: these people were developing cancers, and so the government was 449 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: holding these hearings to take the testimony of the family 450 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 5: members who were trying to say, hey, this is what 451 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: I've seen and what have you. So I was awarded 452 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 5: a contract for the Mind Safety and Health Administration and 453 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 5: it was a one point nine million dollar contract, and 454 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: I was like. 455 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: This is important because a lot of people when like 456 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I know, when I first started hearing about government contracts, 457 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of this is some service that has to 458 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: be related to government. But the government contracts they need 459 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: everything they do. They need absolutely everything. So you might 460 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: not even think that your business is applicable, but there's 461 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: something out there for. 462 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: You, like some coffee. 463 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: They might need food, and they pay well they do. 464 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: They have events, so the people who do event planning. 465 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 5: The government does contracts for event planning all the time. 466 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this when you talked about bids 467 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: and how previously you had the lowest bid but you 468 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: still didn't get the contract when you were in Montgomery. 469 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: No, No, in Norfolk. 470 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Oh that was Enoughfolk. 471 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Okay, how do you know what to like what your 472 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: bid should be, because you also don't want to price 473 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: it too low. 474 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 5: That's a part of your research. Those are strategies that 475 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 5: I'm going to start teaching now. And that's called your 476 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 5: pricing strategy. And you have to do and you do 477 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: your research and you're able to understand, Okay, what does 478 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: the market what will the market bear? Because what you're 479 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 5: saying is you don't want to be priced out and 480 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: because if you're too high, then you're not going to win, 481 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 5: and if you're too low, sometimes you are a risk. 482 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: One of the things everybody needs to understand. The government 483 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 5: is risk averse. They want to mitigate risk at all 484 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: costs because if you don't understand how important your performance 485 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 5: is your record. You have to have a performance record 486 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 5: that the government can trust. And a lot of times 487 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 5: what happens is small businesses because they have lack of 488 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: access to financial resources, things of that nature, the government 489 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 5: will kind of be a little leary. You know that 490 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: they can do the work. So but when you understand 491 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: how to leverage that, how to team and how to 492 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 5: partner and put together a package that checks all the 493 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: checks all the for. 494 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: Them, you you eliminate. 495 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: What you're doing is is I'm eliminating your reason to 496 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 5: your ability to say no. 497 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: And those are strategy. So a lot of. 498 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 5: Times when I'm looking at opportunities and what we do, 499 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 5: and the more we grow. While the government is doing 500 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 5: what they're doing, or my opponent is doing they're doing 501 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: they're playing checkers. I'm always playing chess, So I'm always 502 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 5: gonna make a chess move and I'm always gonna outsmart 503 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 5: you because I understand that we should be playing chess. 504 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: Not checkers. 505 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: Because we play checkers, you're gonna end up, you know, 506 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: with with with everybody else, Chess is gonna get you 507 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: at the top. 508 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: Right, How do we there's so much here? So one, 509 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: there's so much money out there for black businesses through 510 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: government contracts. It sounds just so complicated, and there's so 511 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: many people out there who you know, are teaching it, 512 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: but people are still having hard time getting contracts. 513 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: If I could step on you for a second, A 514 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: big part of what we're doing during August is that 515 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 4: there are thousands of people like Michelle who have the 516 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: lived experience of having to do it. They know where 517 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 4: the barriers are, and so our strategy is for our 518 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 4: various African American companies that are already in the game 519 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: to team together. So, for instance, the typical model that 520 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: we've been taught for the last fifty years is you 521 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: have to be a subcontractor to some big white front, right, 522 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: that doesn't get us anywhere. He's become a permanent subcontractor. 523 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: So look at construction. One of our successes over the 524 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: last five years. We've gone from a low of two nine, 525 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: only two point nine percent of construction workers of black 526 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: five years ago. We've been able to increase se to 527 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: seven point one. But because of all the attacks on 528 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 4: affirmative action over the last twenty five years or so 529 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: that myself and my partner Fred Jordan has been fighting, 530 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 4: the size of African American construction companies hasn't grown. So 531 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: it's very rare to find a black company that can 532 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: actually finish your whole building. Right. But if you take 533 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: an architecture firm from Memphis and a construction company from Chicago, 534 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: and a general contractor from Atlanta and another company from 535 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: Los Angeles, all of a sudden, you have a joint 536 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: venture that can compete for prime contracts. So our model 537 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 4: is to take our local and regional level companies, combine 538 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 4: them so that they're national companies. But also more importantly, 539 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: we have our seventy Cities Initiative, So there's seventy cities 540 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: in Africa and the Caribbean that have more than median population. 541 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: They're doing light rail, they're doing dams, they're doing airports, 542 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: all that sort of thing. So by taking these teams, 543 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: we can then take these teams overseas and get the 544 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: larger experience doing bigger projects so that then we can 545 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: compete for the government contracts. And the great thing about 546 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: it is the government will pay for us to do 547 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: work overseas. 548 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: You want to get on one of these teams, that's 549 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: why we're partnering with them. Go to blackmoney dot com 550 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: Slash thirty one ways thirty one days each night in August. 551 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: There's a different industry that they're going to be building 552 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: the teams and they're looking for people to put on 553 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: the teams. It's not just a mentoring session, it's actual 554 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: deal making. You want to definitely be a part of that. 555 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm not done talking to you so getting educated about 556 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: government contracts and I know that's something that you're passionate about. Yes, 557 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: And honestly, I have seen you call the nine hundred 558 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: million dollar woman. As I've gotten to know John Templeton 559 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: and on the Black Business Month, there are so many 560 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: black near billionaires out there that have really moved from 561 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: that mindset of being a small business owner and created 562 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: industries and you can't help. But notice they kind of hide. 563 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: We don't even know that they exist. We don't have 564 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: them for role modeling. They're very quiet. Why are these 565 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: ultra successful black business owners or industry creators silent? And 566 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to start by asking you. 567 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: We're silent because we understand you can't go around waving 568 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 5: a big flag because if you do, they're bad actors 569 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: that are going to do all they can to try 570 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: and stop you from growing and you know, getting even 571 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: more success. So it kind of it's sad, but most 572 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: of us don't have our pictures on our website. 573 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: Most of us, you know, like me. 574 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 5: This whole thing I'm doing here, this is so not me, 575 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 5: you know, But it's time for me to come out 576 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 5: of obscurity, John, And I'm doing it because at this 577 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 5: point in time, I've made my mind up that regardless 578 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 5: of what is attempted to try and block and stop, 579 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 5: what God has purposed for me is not going to work. 580 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: And I'm willing to come out and teach and share 581 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: so that more people that look like me can understand 582 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: you can do the same thing. 583 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: You just have to do it the right way. 584 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: And you know when you spoke about DEI being under attack, 585 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: that's why this is really important right now too. Yes, 586 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: just because there's a lot of things that are more 587 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: obstacles for people to be able to level out that 588 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: playing field. People who deserve the opportunity, who are quite capable. 589 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: But because there's like how you were locked out of 590 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: being able to work in the courtroom, that same thing 591 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: is happening now even though you could graduate top of 592 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: your class, have all the skills, hiring as favors or 593 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: for people who look like them. 594 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, but the blessing is my life. The blessing on 595 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 5: my life is this everything that has been attempted to 596 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 5: stop or block me. God has taken that as like 597 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: a stepping stone and a footstool, and I have exceeded 598 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 5: everything because of them. 599 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: So if I wanted a job, he gave me a business. 600 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. So I started a business 601 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: thirty years. 602 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: Ago, and now I'm able to employ people around the country. 603 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 5: Now I've been able to sustain and build an entire infrastructure, 604 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: all because a person. 605 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: Wanted a job. 606 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 5: So all negativity that comes that you is not bad. 607 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 5: It is because when you learn how to overcome it, 608 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 5: and when you learn how to see the positive and 609 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 5: speak the positive and manifest in your mind what you 610 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 5: want your outcome to be, you will change whatever the 611 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: situation is. And that's what I've done. So every obstacle, 612 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 5: everything that you would think would have stopped me, I 613 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: have found the positive in it, and I've taken that 614 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 5: and I've grown it. And that's what I would say 615 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 5: to our people. Every one of us experience it at 616 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 5: some level. Because we look like each other. We just do, 617 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 5: and we wake up with that this paint job that 618 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: we have, we can't change it. So all we can 619 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 5: do is take it and use it and make it 620 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 5: work because it can, and we can overcome whatever the 621 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 5: obstacles are. You just have to be willing to do 622 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: the work. This listen, government contracting, let me help you out. 623 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: It's not a hustle get rid of the hustle mindset, 624 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: because it's legitimate. 625 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: It is one of those situations where you do this wrong, 626 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 5: you're going to either face a healthy fine or jail 627 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: time because this is a federal government, so you can't 628 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: pull any of that stuff on them. You gotta come correct, 629 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 5: and if you're willing to come correct, understand that you 630 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 5: need someone to teach you, what laws to pay attention to, 631 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 5: what do you need to make sure you do and 632 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 5: don't do in order to get you in trouble, because 633 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's not worth it. 634 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 5: What is it if you can't maintain and so what 635 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 5: you've gained. And I want everybody listening to me as 636 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: as black people, we need to understand and learn how 637 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: to whatever we gain, we must maintain it, sustain it 638 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 5: so that whatever we gain it can outlive us. 639 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: That's success. And the other thing that is success that 640 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: I've learned is not so much the money. It's the knowledge. 641 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: The more that I can train and educate and pass 642 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 5: on even to my children that I used to think, 643 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: you know what, I'm going to do all this. 644 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: So my children won't have to struggle in whateverever. 645 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: And I had an AHA moment with God and he 646 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: helped me to understand if you give them the knowledge, 647 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 5: they can take what you've done and make it even greater. 648 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 5: But if you only give them the money and they 649 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: didn't go through what you went through to get it, 650 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 5: they're not going to understand it, appreciate it, nor be 651 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: able to sustain it. So you have to put that 652 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 5: all together and understand that is what I'm doing with 653 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 5: my four children right now, creating generational wealth, exposing them 654 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 5: to revenue, exposing them to government contracting, corporate corporate contracts, 655 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: business in general. I don't care what business there is. 656 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 5: If you introduce me to it, I can run it. 657 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: M hmm. 658 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: And then the last thing I need to touch on 659 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: with you. So Michelle's really good at manifesting what she wants. 660 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: So we're all really happy that she's decided that she 661 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: wants to fix climate change. 662 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, that's another area. I don't have grandchildren, 663 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 5: but I'm planning. So about three years ago, I was 664 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: offered an opportunity to work with a gentleman that had 665 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 5: created a smart battery technology made out of graphene. And 666 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 5: for most of us, we haven't heard of graphene. Most 667 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 5: of us are familiar with our lithium batteries in our 668 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: cell phones, in our laptops and things of that nature. 669 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 5: Lithium is highly explosive and very unfriendly to the to 670 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 5: the environment. Graphene is another substance that has been developed. 671 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 5: It's a new material and it's like it's a single 672 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: layer sheet and it's just it's a single layer of 673 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: carbon atoms. And with this it is the hardest, it 674 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 5: is the thinnest, and it is the best most electrically 675 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: and thermal conducive nanomterial in the world. So it can 676 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 5: when I say that, basically the graphene can capture ninety 677 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 5: five percent of the Sun's energy. So what we've done 678 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 5: is I've created an energy company named after my son 679 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 5: and dwell A Energy, and I've created also a power 680 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 5: company and dwell A Power and all four of my 681 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 5: children are co founders of this organization and we're beginning 682 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 5: to tackle climate change and we want to be known 683 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: as the Black Family of Energy. 684 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,959 Speaker 3: And when we. 685 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 5: Get involved with this climate change, it is because our 686 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 5: children can be at the bus stop at the school. 687 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 5: All of those buses are running diesel fuel. And we 688 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 5: wondered why COVID so many children had issues breathing and 689 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 5: the respiratory problems. It was because the daily things that 690 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 5: we do and we are emitting into our environment, no 691 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 5: one is paying attention of the damage that it's doing. 692 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 5: So what we want to do with this is partner 693 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 5: and become a leader in energy and explain and also 694 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: create a partnership when we provide power back from graphene 695 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 5: and clean up the energy and the environment. We want 696 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 5: to share a part of the wealth back with the 697 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 5: people who purchase the power. So see, we want to 698 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 5: flip it. Typically Georgia Power, They're just going to send 699 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 5: you a bill. We want to create a system and 700 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 5: a process where if we can help incentivize you to 701 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 5: pay attention to what you're doing and instead of using 702 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 5: lithium which is explosive and harming the atmosphere, or these 703 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 5: fossil fuels, if we can incentivize people that, hey, we 704 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 5: will make you a part of this and you can 705 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 5: get a check. 706 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 3: See I love checks, So if you. 707 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 5: Can give me a check for doing something good, I 708 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 5: think I would want to be a part of that. 709 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 5: So we're working through that piece right now. But we're 710 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: working on pros in Africa. We have a project in 711 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 5: the US that we we've gotten a contract or letter 712 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 5: of intent from the state of Hawaii. We're in the 713 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 5: Great Pacific Garbage Patch. If you haven't heard of it, 714 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 5: look it up. That is the largest compilation of plastics 715 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: that have accumulated in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, 716 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: and that if we don't get a hold of that, 717 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 5: eventually it could cause what they call an ELLE, which 718 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: is an extinction life event. And so if you look 719 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 5: up the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, that's one of the 720 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 5: contracts for plastics and the garbage that we're going to 721 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 5: take that garbage and convert it to graphene energy. And 722 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 5: once we converted to graphene, we'll be able to we'll 723 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 5: be able to produce electricity as well as biofuels, green fuels, 724 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 5: so the jet fuel, diesel fuel, all of this technology 725 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 5: we already have is been patented and we're getting ready 726 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 5: to launch it right now. 727 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: This is amazing. 728 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: This is we are bringing it Wealth Wednesdays is bringing 729 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: it Black Business Month. And we're so honored to have 730 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: this partnership with the creator of Black National Black Business Month, 731 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 2: John Templeton and everybody. Again, their goal is to create 732 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: one billion black businesses over the next year. They do 733 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: that with their eyes closed, and they're looking for partners 734 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: and and have opportunities for black entrepreneurs. And they're having 735 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 2: nightly deal making sessions every night. In August thirty one 736 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 2: ways and thirty one days. You can get that blackmoney 737 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: dot Com slash thirty one ways thirty one days. We 738 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: made it easy follow Wealth Wednesdays on Instagram and it's 739 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: in the link. And John just briefly touch on some 740 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: of the industries that you're going to be making deals in. 741 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 3: Well. 742 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 4: For instance, we're looking at sports, the name, image and likeness. 743 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 4: Now every athlete is a business person. We're looking at 744 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 4: food security. We have a gentleman and if you thought 745 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: that was amazing, we have a gentleman on from Ghana 746 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: on August first, who will be talking about soilist. 747 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: Plants and you have like beauty, I know there's also. 748 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: Plants, right, So. 749 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 4: But on Marcus Garvey Day, we're going to have the 750 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 4: Director of Public Private Partnerships for the Federal Republic of Nigeria. 751 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 4: So all of the businesses that are being created in Nigeria. 752 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 4: Nigeria's two million people, So we took Nigeria, Ethiopia, and 753 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 4: South Africa. It's the same size as the United States, 754 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 4: and so those countries are are pleading for entrepreneurs to 755 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 4: come and be part of their development. And we're creating 756 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 4: those relationships with the people who are making the decisions 757 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 4: on it, so everybody should definitely be part of thirty 758 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 4: one race thirty one days. 759 00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: This is global, it's. 760 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: Not this is global everybody. We totally brought it this 761 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: month and it's in all sorts of industries you can imagine. Again, 762 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: go to black money dot com Slash thirty one ways 763 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,479 Speaker 2: thirty one days and thank you both. 764 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to this whole entire month with you 765 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: guys and for everybody to be able to participate, because 766 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: of course we have a special way up code for you. 767 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: So absolutely well we've done. When you go to that 768 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 2: particular website black money dot com Slash thirty one ways 769 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: thirty one days, there is a way up discount built 770 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: into this for fifty percent off. It usually costs. You 771 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: can't get into those rooms, but those of you out 772 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: there way up can get in for the entire month 773 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty dollars. 774 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: And can I let them know where they can reach 775 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: me out? Oh yes please? Okay if they right now? 776 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 5: Because I typically have been under the radar, but my 777 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 5: team has put together in all the social media platforms, 778 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 5: I think you can find me under Michelle Fagan's anthony 779 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 5: and that's Fagan's well Michelle my c H E L 780 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 5: L E F E A G I N S. 781 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: You're going to be tagged on all that. I don't 782 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: even have to worry. 783 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 3: Okay, because people can't pronounce my maiden name. 784 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: So Michelle Fagin's and yeah, we're going. 785 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: To be posting all the Michelle's stuff, tagging you. And 786 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: we're really looking forward to doing a big educational program 787 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: with Michelle in twenty twenty five to get everybody they're 788 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: right footing and government contracting. 789 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: And you'll be in these thirty one ways in thirty 790 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: one days, right, you'll be in. 791 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 3: The room yees, not most of them A part of that. 792 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 5: Part of then I'll tell you why. Let me give 793 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 5: you the last tip. This is the fourth quarter for 794 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 5: the federal government on that year, and so Michelle got 795 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 5: to get back to making that money. So that's where 796 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 5: I'll be, but I'll check in with my partner. 797 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And one big part of it is our annual report. 798 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 4: So this year the title is Vote Black Business. So literally, 799 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 4: as Angela just said, the survival of Black businesses is 800 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 4: on the ballot in November. So she's from Montgomery. If 801 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 4: you've gone to the lynching memorial down there, as I've 802 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 4: walked through four thousand names, the most common characteristic of 803 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: those people they were in business. 804 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 805 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 4: And so we have two and a half million African 806 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 4: Americans that have graduate degrees, but only one hundred and 807 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 4: sixty thousand confirms that have employees. So we have to 808 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 4: make it safe for black people to be in business. 809 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 4: We talk about, you know, police brutality and all that 810 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,479 Speaker 4: sort of thing, we have commercial brutality that we got 811 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 4: to stop. And the only way to fight a bully 812 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 4: is punch him in the face. And so the best 813 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 4: way for us to do that is to do exactly 814 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 4: what African American businesses did in eighteen sixty eight when 815 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 4: they said we need to be able to sign contracts 816 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 4: and enforce them. So it was black businesses that insisted 817 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 4: on the fourteenth Amendment, and the black folks who ran 818 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: all the docs said if we don't get fourteenth Amendment, 819 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 4: we're going to shut down all the docks. So we 820 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 4: need to be in the same spirit as those black 821 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 4: folks like Isaac Myers at Port of Baltimore back in 822 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 4: eighteen sixty eight who went from working on the docks 823 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 4: to purchasing the shipyard and so. But we give you 824 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 4: the tools so that you don't have to go through 825 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 4: all the battles that Michelle went through, but we give 826 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 4: you the armor to be able to fight effectively. So 827 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 4: please join us at black money dot com backslash thirty 828 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 4: one way thirty one days. 829 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you. And in case you couldn't tell, 830 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: John Templeton is a wealth of information as well. First 831 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: black journalists, first journalists about Black History Month. 832 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 3: And it's a historian. 833 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: You can tail that back in nineteen seventy six and 834 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: he created the State of Black Business Report, which is 835 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: literally used to create government policy. 836 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 2: So, like I said, we're bringing it this month people. 837 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: Happy wrth Wednesday, Happy weth Wednesday. 838 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 3: Well,