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Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. Uh, Kanye West is gone. Kanye

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Speaker 1: I've been watching my get down on social media. Kanye West,

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Speaker 1: What you did to the NAS record, which you did

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Speaker 1: other day something happened with Nick Cannon. I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: happened with Nick Cannon, who apparently used to date Kim

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Speaker 1: fucking spade a spade here, Kanye, get your medication right, duke,

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Speaker 1: selfie videos. I started the whole fucking trend. Nobody was

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Speaker 1: your motherfucking panties, and talk your ship. You look fucking nuts, Duke,

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Speaker 1: You're moving to Chicago? You're whiz. She's not moving to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian, North Sat and your kids Chicago. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Which is just weird, Like, are you that thirsty to

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Speaker 1: I get it. I sexualized the opponent that I am

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Speaker 1: playing in fantasy football. Yes, I want to. I want

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Speaker 1: watch me smashed men smash me? You say, send you

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Speaker 1: at it. Connor McGregor talks good shit. He's the best

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Speaker 1: in all seriousness and NFL Hospital. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: These players need to be taken care of. Their veterans

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Speaker 1: You gotta mustache, duke, You're not my type. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: keep it fucking with you gotta fucking mustache. You don't

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Speaker 1: mustache and you make an eye contact with me, and

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Speaker 1: I see you and your beaty fucking brown eyes and

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Speaker 1: the top of your mustache. None of it is comfortable.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start videotaping these people because this is not

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Speaker 1: for details. All right, John Heilman post one of the hosts,

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Speaker 1: one of the creators of Showtimes to Circus accurate the

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Speaker 1: first question I have to ask, Now, the show is good,

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Speaker 1: but it's not anything like his advanced of this podcast,

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this is a high tech setup you

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Speaker 1: have here. I don't don't, don't don't make the people

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Speaker 1: at home jealous. The audience probably does not recognize what

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Speaker 1: an incredible audio engineering marvel this studio is, right right,

455
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Speaker 1: because like you thought you were just walking into somebody's apartment.

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Speaker 1: I did, and then I come in here and it's like,

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Speaker 1: fucking you could. It's like electric ladyland here, right, it's

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Speaker 1: like serious, you could report like you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, don't make the people at home jealous.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna now. The first episode of The Circus aired,

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Speaker 1: and before I watched the first episode of The Circus,

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Speaker 1: I have the notes I could prove it. I actually

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Speaker 1: wrote down in the first episode, you interviewed Steve Bannon,

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Speaker 1: who I can't stand him. You are not alone in

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Speaker 1: that in that regard, but you asked the question I

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Speaker 1: actually wrote down because Steve Bannon is obviously very smart,

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Speaker 1: and but the question I wrote was to ask you,

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Speaker 1: without seeing the interview on the Circus episode one with Steve,

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Speaker 1: if you're so fucking smart, why do you hang around

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Speaker 1: and support and adore Donald Trump. You asked a form

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Speaker 1: of that question, so not to even go down that.

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Speaker 1: But my first question you about your interview with Steve Bannon,

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Speaker 1: and apparently you've known him for a long time. Now,

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Speaker 1: first I want first, I want to just say to you,

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Speaker 1: you are I know you're an attentive viewer, right, I

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Speaker 1: also know you're a hip hop fan, big one giant,

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Speaker 1: like me, did you Did you pay attention to the

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Speaker 1: wardrobe choice by Steve Bannon? By me, No, I was

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Speaker 1: more checking him out, the size of him, if he

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Speaker 1: had any I can't I really listen. I you can't

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Speaker 1: stand him. I really don't like him. I know you're

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Speaker 1: not again, You're not alone. There are millions of people

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Speaker 1: really don't like him. But my move, what did you wear?

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Speaker 1: I was wearing three layers of T shirts. I know

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Speaker 1: I only had one T shirt on, but my T

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Speaker 1: shirt was a Supreme T shirt with a picture on

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Speaker 1: the front of Chuck D. Yes, I saw that, like

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Speaker 1: circle outside the South on the white. I saw that

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Speaker 1: I would have liked it a little bit more featured.

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Speaker 1: Because I couldn't tell what I was. It was casual.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to casually troll him. But I did say

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Speaker 1: off camera to him, I said, you see this picture here,

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Speaker 1: I said, he I know who this is. And so

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Speaker 1: he's like, is that is that Chuck d from Public Enemy?

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, it is. He's like so, and I said, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, it says fear of a black Planet

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Speaker 1: on the back, and second of all, it's a picture

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Speaker 1: of a guy who's been locked out of the White House.

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Speaker 1: He got one thing in common with Chuck D. You

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Speaker 1: can't get into the White House either. He thought that.

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Speaker 1: He enjoyed that. He thought that was funny. He thought

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Speaker 1: it was funny. Not the most subtle form of trolling

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Speaker 1: in the world, but it was. It was sort of

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Speaker 1: like persistent trolling. I thought I'd make him look at

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Speaker 1: Chuck D throughout the entire interview. That would get in

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Speaker 1: his head. It did. I didn't get in his head. No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't think My first question is this

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Speaker 1: my first question, what does he smell like? Because he

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Speaker 1: looks like he smells like coffee, an old newspaper. I

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Speaker 1: did not get close enough to smell him. He whatever

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Speaker 1: he smells like was not It was not evident to

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Speaker 1: me at the distance we were seated and stand name

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Speaker 1: we were not. He gave off no negative odor. But again,

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Speaker 1: that may just be because I wasn't close enough. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that question. The other thing

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you is that it comes up all the

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Speaker 1: time in social media and other places. People say that

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Speaker 1: drunk Steve Bannon he is a teetotaler like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: He claims. Again, I can't verify this personally. He claims

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Speaker 1: he's not had a drink in twenty five years. I

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Speaker 1: was ready to bring beer to the to the thing.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna watch this movie, this propaganda movie he made,

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Speaker 1: Trump at War. He still thinks he's a fucking filmmaker, right,

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Speaker 1: he does. He totally um and he but he's but

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Speaker 1: he admitted in the interview he said to me the

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Speaker 1: first thing he said, he said, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: get to the truth in this movie. I'm a propagandist.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to I'm trying to motivate people.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tell the truth. So he thinks

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Speaker 1: he's a propagandist. What does that? What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Because we hear these words and so much of the news.

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Speaker 1: For me, and I'm gonna be totally honest. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be totally fucking genuine. I could give and paid attention,

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00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: no ships to anything with politics. I'm forty eight. Since

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Speaker 1: Trump was elected. Now that's not a good thing, that's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily responsible thing I voted. But like this day in,

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Speaker 1: day out type of thing wasn't my deal. It'd be

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Speaker 1: like the way I paid attention to no bullshit before Trump,

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Speaker 1: before Trump, and now you're all in. I'm all in

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Speaker 1: because I'll tell you a story about that in a minute,

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Speaker 1: but go ahead. But but a lot of times I

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Speaker 1: feel like with the news now, I think people like

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Speaker 1: myself have sort of caught up. But there's so much terms,

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Speaker 1: there's so many there's so much language, mid terms, this one,

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Speaker 1: get the House, get the almost feel like all of

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Speaker 1: us need to go back to like a basic political

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Speaker 1: sort of like you know, basic course in it. So

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Speaker 1: when you say he says he's a propagandist, what does

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Speaker 1: that mean in Layman's terms, Well, I think what he's

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00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: saying is I am not trying to get to the truth.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing journalism. I'm not trying to say there's

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Speaker 1: two sides of this issue. I'm not trying to reveal

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Speaker 1: the reality. What I'm trying to do is I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to use this document, in this case of film, to

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Speaker 1: achieve a certain outcome. I am creating a fiction in

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Speaker 1: a way. I mean everything on he's not making He's

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Speaker 1: not saying he's making a he's using mostly news footage,

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Speaker 1: but he's essentially saying, my goal here is to motivate

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Speaker 1: people who support Donald Trump to go and vote in

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Speaker 1: these mid term elections because if the Democrats take control

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Speaker 1: of the House or the House and Senate, Trump is fucked.

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Speaker 1: That's his view. His view is this is existential. He says,

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Speaker 1: this is Trump's first re election campaign. He's like the

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Speaker 1: left is on fire, the way that the right was

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Speaker 1: on fire when the Tea Party popped up back in two.

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Speaker 1: If they win the House or the House and the Senate,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna impeach Donald Trump. And his view is the deplorables.

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Speaker 1: That's what he calls them, the Trump voters because they

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Speaker 1: like that name. They like that name. Hillary Clinton said

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Speaker 1: in the campaign that they were a basket Eve embraced.

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Speaker 1: They've now embraced it. We are that I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that they embraced. So he s they wear T shirts deplorables.

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Speaker 1: They love that, he says, the deplorables because they're so

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Speaker 1: bad and like, where the underdogs the funk out of here?

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Speaker 1: So he says, the deplorables are complacent. The deplorables are

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Speaker 1: so happy with Trump. They don't believe anything bad could

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Speaker 1: ever happen to Trump. They say that Democrats will never

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Speaker 1: win and it's weird. Right, they say. Their attitude is uh.

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Speaker 1: In two thousands sixteen, the main the mainstream media told

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Speaker 1: us Hillary Clinton was gonna win and Trump could never win,

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Speaker 1: and Trump won. So now they think anything the media says,

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Speaker 1: any poll, anything they say is bullshit. So when we report, hey,

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Speaker 1: the polls show that Democrats likely you're going to take

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Speaker 1: back control of the House, the Trump basis like, you're

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Speaker 1: just lying to us again. And Bannon sees that and

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Speaker 1: he's freaked out about God because he thinks they're gonna

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Speaker 1: all stay home the same way a lot of Democrats

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Speaker 1: stayed home in not campaign and not do the not

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Speaker 1: do the due diligence and the actual work. I'll just

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Speaker 1: show up on election. So his attitude is I gotta

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Speaker 1: make a movie to show these to scare these people. Basically,

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Speaker 1: now he sort of denies that, but really, if you

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Speaker 1: see the movie, it's really just like if if you

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Speaker 1: guys don't vote and keep Republicans in control of the Congress,

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Speaker 1: the left is gonna take over. They're gonna impeach Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and all these crazy left wing protesters, these antifa

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Speaker 1: guys in the black hoods, they're gonna bash the windows

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Speaker 1: into the Starbucks They're gonna throw pigs blood on the

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Speaker 1: face of of all of us. That's what he's That's

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Speaker 1: what the movie is. It's like, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're not a political guy. This is in politics is history.

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Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, people say you're the

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Speaker 1: Lettier rifen style, you know, the Ltia Rifenstall was no,

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Speaker 1: but you said that. Lania Rifenstall is the woman who

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Speaker 1: made the propaganda movies for Hitler. People say like, you're

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Speaker 1: the Lettia rife install of the of the alt right.

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00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: And he's like, that's a little harsh. But basically he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's sort of what I am. Not the Hitler comparison,

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Speaker 1: but he's. But his thing is that's what I'm here

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Speaker 1: to do. I'm here to make sure Donald Trump stays

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Speaker 1: in power, and I'm here to try to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we accomplished the ship we want to accomplish. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not trying to present both sides. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if I'm manipulating images in order to make

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00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: the left look bad. My job is political. I'm a campaigner,

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00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: not a documentarian. Now now you can't speak for for Bannon,

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Speaker 1: and I think Bannon sort of represents, uh everything pro Trump,

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Speaker 1: So what do they want? Like, he's in he's in power,

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Speaker 1: he's in office. What do they want? Because for me,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like Steeve ban is obviously a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: He's been in Hollywood, so he can't be like this

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Speaker 1: whole term of conservative. It's like if you're we all

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Speaker 1: know that if you're in Hollywood, you're not that conservative.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck who you are. You've seen things,

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Speaker 1: You've done things, you've you've witnessed things, You've hung out

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Speaker 1: at the Chateau Romant. There's been women, there's been boozer,

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Speaker 1: has been drugs. You're not that conservative when you look

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Speaker 1: at not not political like conservative, like oh I have

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Speaker 1: to go to sleep at eight pm. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: push ups in the morning because I live bullshit. So

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Speaker 1: so what do they want? What does he want? What

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Speaker 1: the economy is good, which I'm gonna get too later,

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Speaker 1: But what what do they want? Because it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like anything's happening right. Well, Okay, first of all, to

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Speaker 1: your point first point, you know, we had a funny

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Speaker 1: exchange about this because he kept saying I would say,

637
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, Trump's some moron, you know, And he would say, well,

638
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Speaker 1: you're that's just you're just an elitist saying that stuff.

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00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: You know, as you went to Northwestern and Harvard, you're

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Speaker 1: an elitist. I'm like, Steve, you went to Harvard Business School,

641
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: you worked at Goldman Sachs, and then you worked in Hollywood. Like,

642
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: who's more elitist than you? What are you? What are

643
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: you talking? Ridiculous? Right, it's ridiculous. Now he would say

644
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Speaker 1: that he was also in the Navy, he grew up

645
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: working class, uh in Virginia, and that he comes from

646
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: from humble roots. Steve would say, he's not a lot

647
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Speaker 1: of people in Hollywood. Come course, of course, of course.

648
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Speaker 1: So he's cause here's a lot of like Lebron James

649
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: is a billionaire. He came from humbleroom. He dude, he's

650
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: he's on that level. When he'd like deploys this thing

651
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: of like you're the liberal media elitists, he's a fraud, right,

652
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: He's a fraud. He produced movies, motherfucker. None of us

653
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: are like come on, man. So I think what he

654
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: would say, and I I can't channel him to this extent,

655
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: and I think this is fair, because I think that's

656
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Speaker 1: what he would actually say. He'd say, I'm not really

657
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Speaker 1: a conservative. He'd say I'm a populist. And I think

658
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: what he means by that is, here's like if you

659
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Speaker 1: you had, if you had Steve Bannon. Here he had

660
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: a conversation about abortion right, a classic conservative thing. He

661
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: didn't care about abortion, He really doesn't. He doesn't really

662
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: care about gay marriage or that stuff. Steve is focused

663
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: on economic populism. He's obsessed with China. He's obsessed with

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Speaker 1: the idea that there is a dress downtrodden class of

665
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: working class, middle class votors who have seen who've been

666
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Speaker 1: trampled by the forces of globalization, technology and the liberal

667
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: and the liberal elite that's made bankers and other people rich.

668
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: And his thing is about it is about class rage

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00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: and cultural rage. And you know, there's a whole discussion

670
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: about whether brepe Bart was a platform for any Semitism,

671
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: for white supremacy, and whether he's those things or not.

672
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people think he's a racist and in

673
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: any semit Some people think he's not a racist or

674
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Speaker 1: in any semit But he's traffics in racism and any

675
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: semitism because that's an important part of this group that

676
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Speaker 1: they don't like. They hated Obamacas, they're racist, they don't

677
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: like the Jews. There is on the alt right a

678
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: lot of any Semitism and a lot of racism. So

679
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Speaker 1: is he is he is he those things or is

680
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Speaker 1: he someone who just built a platform that capitalized on

681
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Speaker 1: those things. Both those things are pretty evil in my

682
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: in my view. But what he really cares about is

683
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: he cares about these economics he hate. He wants to

684
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Speaker 1: he he is with the things when Trump talks about

685
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: the trade war, uh, immigration, he's and this is where

686
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: you get to the race thing. He's very focused on

687
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: trying to real he's what he really wants. What Steve

688
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: really wants is he wants to make America look like

689
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: I look in the nineteen fifties, so manufacturing jobs, a

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00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: more like bring back what we think of like as

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Speaker 1: the old America. And that's everything from the demographics of it.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that that is you know, the

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Speaker 1: heart of the Trump project is this kind of nostalgia

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Speaker 1: for this America that once existed before the country was

695
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: when the country had when the post war, post World

696
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Speaker 1: War two era where there were good jobs and good

697
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: wages for working class people who worked in factories and

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00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: had steel jobs, and there wasn't global competition and jobs

699
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: weren't being outsourced to China, and where the country was

700
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Speaker 1: just a lot whiter like where it was not as diverse,

701
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Speaker 1: where it was white guys who ran ship. That's what

702
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: they are trying to get back to. And you could

703
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: have a long discussion about whether any of the stuff

704
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Speaker 1: Trump's doing well ever get you back there. I don't

705
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Speaker 1: think you can ever turn back the clock. It's like

706
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: we're living in now, brother, Like, we're not going back.

707
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: But that's what the core of the program of what

708
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: they want to try to do, and what he would

709
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: say racism, because forget, forget the illegal aliens, forget that.

710
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: Like let's just talk about let's say no other person

711
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: ever comes in this country. There's still all sorts of

712
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Speaker 1: people in this country. Then there's there's black people, there's

713
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Speaker 1: Spanish people, there's Mexican people. Like there's we're not going backwards.

714
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Speaker 1: Let's say no one else is ever allowed in this country. Well,

715
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Speaker 1: there's no way to fix what they seem needs to

716
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: be fixed. Well, and the other thing is like, you know, look,

717
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Speaker 1: there's a there's a thing. You got a laptop over there.

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Speaker 1: I see it's open there. It's got the internet up

719
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of Twitter. I see

720
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Speaker 1: over there. You know, the forces of like the reason

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00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: that the steel jobs and the auto jobs went to

722
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Speaker 1: China is automation. You know. It's like, we're the robots

723
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: are coming, right, There's a big giant thing happening where

724
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: like the robots are taking away these low skilled jobs.

725
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: A real challenge. He's right that we have a big

726
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: problem in America with the fact that working class and

727
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: lower middle class wages have been flat first a long

728
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: time Democrats agree about that. The question is what's the

729
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: solution to that problem, and is there a way by

730
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: like opposing tariffs on China or South Korea? Is there

731
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: a way to go back there's I mean, most economists

732
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: are like, you're out of your fucking mind, Like the

733
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: robots are coming, globalizations of fact, the internet exists, these

734
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: are not ever gonna We're never gonna turn back the

735
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: clock and all that stuff. The economy has changed in

736
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: the fundamental way, and we have to adapt to the

737
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: new world of work and not try to go back

738
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: to an old world that will never come back. But

739
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: those guys are like, if we wage enough warfare. We

740
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: locked the Chinese out and we locked the Mexicans out,

741
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: we can somehow get back to this America from like

742
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: father knows best. Leave it to beaver ship from the fifth. Yeah.

743
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: One of the things that everybody agrees on, and it's

744
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: fucked up that I feel like we have to reluctantly

745
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: agreeable because like sort of acknowledging anything that's going on

746
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: during the Trump era is like, you don't want to

747
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: do it, but the economy is thriving. That's true, And

748
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: that's true, and that's great, great all for it, and

749
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: and that that has that has something to do with

750
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: Trump continuing. It has something to do with the Obama administration.

751
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: It's been a continuation of improvements. You look at the

752
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: you look at the period. If you if you just

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00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: look at what happened, you know, we had almost had

754
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: a great depression at the beginning the Obama administration. Right,

755
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Obama fix that we didn't have the depression. We had

756
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: a really bad recession, but we don't have a depression.

757
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: For the last three years four years of the Obama administration,

758
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: we had job growth every month. That's kind of like

759
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: the job growth we have now, Trump hasn't sucked that up.

760
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: The economy is a big giant thing. The president has

761
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: can affected on the margins. But Obama had a lot

762
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: of job growth at the end, and Trump has had

763
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: a lot of job growth, very solid for the first

764
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: these first two years. That's just a fact, is that

765
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: the continuation of Obama. Yes, is it doesn't have something

766
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Trump has given big

767
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: tax cuts to corporations and that they're feeling fat and happy. Yes,

768
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: they're both true. So Trump gets a little credit for that,

769
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: Obama gets a little credit. Trump says, has notthing to

770
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: do with Obama. I go bandon and I had an

771
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: argument for twenty minutes about this. Right, He said, Trump

772
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: economy is so much better than the Obama economy. I'm like, Steve,

773
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: the job growth numbers, I could print them out here

774
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: on my computer for ables look at them. They're basically

775
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: the same. The last three years of Obama, the first

776
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: two years of Trump. They're the same. He's like, that's

777
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: not true. I said, that's your opinion, that's elitism. I'm like,

778
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Speaker 1: it's not. Leads of my statistics. Are you saying, like

779
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: it's like conspiracy at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Because

780
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I can print that, I can show you the chart there,

781
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: it's it's been in continuation. Trump gets some credit, Obama

782
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: gets some credit. They're making it seem in like Trump's

783
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: One of the things that I don't like and I

784
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: don't understand is they're making it seem like if I go,

785
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: economy is gonna funk up. It's a scared tech. So

786
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Speaker 1: my question is this, Can we have a guy who's,

787
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: let me try the right word, the right word. Can

788
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: we have a guy who's a little bit more um

789
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: not Trump like, I don't have the right words, a

790
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: little bit like that, as fucking like just as the lunatic,

791
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: and have a good economy because he's making it seem

792
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: like if I go, we're gonna all be on the street,

793
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, with with with you know, soup cans. So

794
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: can we have a normal president and a good economy.

795
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Yes we can. And in fact I would say not

796
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: just to say, well, we had Obama right, because a

797
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: lot of Republicans think the conservatives think Obama was you know,

798
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: socialist or whatever. Obviously not because well we can talk

799
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: about that all day long. But if Jeb Bush had

800
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Speaker 1: been the Republican nominee, if Marco Rubio had been the

801
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: Republican nominee and they had won, they would have done

802
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: on the economy with the most The most important thing

803
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: that's affected the economy during Trump is that he's deregulated

804
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: and he's cut taxes. Any Republican would have done those

805
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: two things. Right, there's a lot of ship Trump does

806
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: that no Republican or Democrat would do. We You've spent

807
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: all day on that, from starting with the Twitter feed

808
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: to the attacks on the Justice Department, the FBI, but

809
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: the economic piece of it, those are things that any

810
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Republican would have done. So if you think Jeb Bush

811
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: is boring and not Trump like, he would have been

812
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: more humble, more conventional. He would have cut corporate taxes,

813
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: cut taxes for rich people, and deregulated. So you could

814
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: have had a you could have had a Trump set

815
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: of policies without the Trump uh lunacy. The one difference

816
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: is that Trump's got says started this trade war with

817
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of different people, which means in basic terms,

818
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: it's like he wants the slap tariffs, which are basically

819
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: giant taxes on imports of stuff coming from countries that

820
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't like. China is the main target, but he

821
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: essentially went around and said, I want to tear down NAFTA,

822
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: I want to tear down the the Asia Pacific Trade Agreement.

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00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: Free trade is bad. They're taking advantage of This is

824
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: the kind of the Trump grievance thing, right, It's like,

825
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of how we got elected was.

826
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Speaker 1: People have had a bad time economically in the country.

827
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Speaker 1: That is true. People are piste off. They're piste off

828
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Speaker 1: at Republicans, Democrats, Washington Wall Street, Fortune, five hundred, Hollywood, Religion,

829
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: Catholic Church, NFL. People are pisted every big institution, American life.

830
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of piste off people. Trump channeled that,

831
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of victims. Trump's obviously not

832
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: a victim. Have you seen his apartment. He's doing pretty well,

833
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: fucking victim, but he has made he channeled that. And

834
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Speaker 1: the trade thing is a short of like everybody's taking

835
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: advantage of us. It's like, we're the richest country in

836
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Speaker 1: the world. Dude, We're the richest country in the world.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be in China? You are nobody not not.

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Speaker 1: There's no one who like, well, let's go to child,

839
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: let's move to China. So but he acts like, wow,

840
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Speaker 1: the Chinese have been sucking us for years. They're doing

841
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Speaker 1: so much better than we are. Really like, I mean,

842
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Speaker 1: you've beend up. It hangs you, you know, Guan Dong,

843
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't want to live there, Donald Trump in

844
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Speaker 1: a million years. So but he but that is the

845
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: basis of it, right, It's kind of like they're all

846
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Speaker 1: ripping us off. And so because they're ripping us off,

847
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Speaker 1: we're gonna impose penalties on them. We're gonna make it

848
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Speaker 1: harder for them to send us their goods. Where if

849
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Speaker 1: they do send us their goods, we're gonna charge them attacks.

850
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Speaker 1: Basically the best one. That's one thing the Republicans would

851
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Speaker 1: not normally do. Well, what are there pros and cons?

852
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: So though, like, what are the pros and kind? Well?

853
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: What what what if you're in favor of putting tariffs

854
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Speaker 1: on a bunch of people, right, You're you basically are

855
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Speaker 1: saying you're gonna make it more expensive for them to

856
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: send their goods here, which means that the cost of

857
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: doing business is going to go up. There when the

858
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Speaker 1: cost of doing business goes up there. It makes our

859
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: workers more competitive because instead of like right now, if

860
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: you're at if you're at Ford, right, you got cheap

861
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: labor in China. If you make it more expensive for

862
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: the Chinese to do business, you drive up their labor costs.

863
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: Now suddenly forward's like, well it's just as expensive to

864
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Speaker 1: do business in China as an America. I'll do business

865
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Speaker 1: in America. That's the theory, right. The thing on the

866
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: other side is the reason that cheap labor over there

867
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Speaker 1: is good drives prices of everything down that computer yours,

868
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Speaker 1: you know everything, we've seen this all. You know, there's

869
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Speaker 1: everything in this house, you know, the TV studio, every

870
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Speaker 1: you have, the high student, all of this gear. This

871
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: microphone in my hand. You know, this is a piece

872
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: of complex equipment that like twenty years ago would have

873
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: been five thousand dollars. Now you can buy a high

874
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Speaker 1: end microphone for like right, why solid state electronics getting cheaper?

875
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Everything gets cheaper and what the reason that people like

876
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: free trade is like the cheap labor should be where

877
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Speaker 1: the cheap labor is, and the high end ship should

878
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: be where the high end ship should be. And that

879
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Speaker 1: means that everything's cheaper. Why does everybody America have air conditioning? Now?

880
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Why does everyone travel? Like the prices of goods have

881
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: fallen over time because the world is this big, giant

882
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: competitive market. Trump's kind of like, well, you know what,

883
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: the jobs here are more important than the overall depression

884
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Speaker 1: or not depression, the overall decline and just of things.

885
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: So that's like the pro and con thing. Free trade

886
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: is basically an argument for let the place in the

887
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: world that can do the ship best, do the ship

888
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: best and cheapest, right, So what you what we should

889
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: We'll have all the lawyers, we'll have all the Hollywood actors,

890
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: and we'll have all the computer software programmers, and you

891
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: guys can build the cars. That's fine with us. Why

892
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: do we want to build cars? Trump's like, we gotta

893
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: build cars because like building cars is like the ship

894
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: we want to do. Pauli Manafort, as I like to

895
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Speaker 1: call him, Pavel Walnuts, that's a good one. You're not

896
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Speaker 1: a ford to teller. What do you think? What do

897
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Speaker 1: you presume? Assume? How do you think this is gonna

898
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: play itself out? In terms of him saying and the

899
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: world do you you emphasize? Last night on the show

900
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: at one point during the new All in Anything cooperate

901
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: with All in Anything, although Rudy Giuliani uh was on

902
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: Twitter saying I heard they do fake sources and anonymous

903
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: services when they want to, But all in anything should

904
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: just say Trump. Because if everybody's emphasized all in anything,

905
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: which means all in anything, how do you presume this

906
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: is gonna this is gonna play itself out. Well, I'll

907
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: take exception to the one thing you just said, because

908
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: he could have information that could lead to the indictment

909
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: of Don JR. I want Don Junior down lead to

910
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: the indictment of Jared Kushner. Like there's Manifer could have

911
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: information that don't doesn't just speak directly to Trump. Obviously

912
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Trump is the big cahuna, right, that's the main Don

913
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Junior would be got to be at the fucking legs.

914
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: But do you know he's so sick. I don't. I

915
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: think he'd keep going and be like, yeah, we'll see.

916
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I don't. So Look, here's

917
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: the here's the thing. Manafer now works for Bob Muller.

918
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: That's what this is. That's what this is. It's like

919
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: in perpetuity forever, going forward. On anything that Bob Mueller

920
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: wants that he thinks Manifert knows about Manifort. In order

921
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: to try to get get a reduced plea, you're gonna

922
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: reduce to a sentence. He's basically saying, I work for you,

923
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm your I'm your bitch. If he'd be a fucking rat,

924
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: he'd be he's a rat, and not just once, but forever.

925
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean the The agreement basically says, for as long

926
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Speaker 1: as this investigation goes forward at the federal level, at

927
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Speaker 1: any state level, at the FED, at the s d

928
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Speaker 1: N Y Virginia, anything that any law enforcement officer or

929
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: investigator wants to know that relates to this stuff, we

930
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: come to you. We want those if you have, if

931
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: you have inform that we will ask you. We we

932
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: will ask you, and you will tell us the truth.

933
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: And if you don't tell us the truth and everything

934
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: we we you're the agreements off. The agreements off. You

935
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: don't get the reduced sentence anymore. You go for the

936
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: rest your life. Buck you. So his thing is, I

937
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: got it now? I am I am your bitch. Mr Muller,

938
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: I am your bitch. I have to answer every question.

939
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: I have to tell you everything I know about anything

940
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Speaker 1: you're interested in that I know anything about. Now. Question

941
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: when he's answering those questions, do you think he's ever

942
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: on his hands and knees? When when Mueller's asked, what,

943
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: do you think he ever puts the knee pants on?

944
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Not to do anything. He's just he's on his hands

945
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: and knees. I'll answer anything you want, and I'm on

946
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: my hands and knees. My best, my best understanding of

947
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: Bob Mueller's prosecutorial modus operandi is that it does not

948
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: look like a Quentin Tarantino. Okay, I just ask. That's

949
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: my best understanding. I'm not I'm not I'm an investigator you.

950
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get information. I'm telling you that the

951
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: best to the best of my knowledge. So I think

952
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: you know you've got a situation where the guy knows

953
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot. It's not just that he was the campaign chairman,

954
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Speaker 1: as Trump likes us say, for a very short period

955
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: of time, um at a crucial time in his campaign.

956
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 1: Not to with campaign chairman. He lived in Trump Tower

957
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: for twenty years. He's been involved in Trump Ship for decades.

958
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: He's been involved in Russian and Ukrainian ship for decades.

959
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: If you believe, as many do, that Trump's connections to

960
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: dirty Russian money goes back, It's not about the campaign.

961
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: It goes back to the casino business in Atlantic City.

962
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: It goes back to real estate development in New York

963
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: City and all over the world. That that, as the

964
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: kids said publicly on the record, Hey, we don't will

965
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: never need any money. We got a lot of sources

966
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: of money in Russia. They said that on the record

967
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: six years ago, before this was a big deal. The

968
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: The Sun's bragged about how much money they got out

969
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: of Russia. Now it's like Trump, I don't know anybody Russia.

970
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: I never met a Russia what you're talking about. PAULI

971
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: Walnuts has been in that world of dirty Russian money

972
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: for a long time, and he's been in Donald Trump's

973
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: world for a really long time. His partner Roger Stone

974
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: for a long time Stone Manifert abb being Superpowers in Washington.

975
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: D C. Stone, the original Donald Trump political consultant, wanted

976
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: to run for president for twenty years. These guys have

977
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: been hanging out and talking about business and favors that

978
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: they could do, people could do all that ship women

979
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: for a long time. The giants that Yankees anything. So

980
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: what does Paul Manifort. No, he knows a lot. He

981
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: knows a lot about Donald Trump, his history, his business,

982
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: his connections to Russia, money laundering, potentially UH, Russian mafia ties. Uh.

983
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: You know there's Trump's got. These are not I'm not

984
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: making These are things that are in the public record.

985
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Trump's has business associates that for a long time have

986
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: been tied to Russian organized crime. Trump was trying to

987
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: build Trump Tower Moscow all the way up until the

988
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Republican Convention in twenty sixteen. He had Michael Cohen over there,

989
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: still in Moscow that summer while he was in the

990
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Republican nominee, trying to negotiate a business deal with Putin

991
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: to build Trump Tower Moscow, which he'd been wanting for

992
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: twenty years. Manafort knows about that. Manifort knows about the

993
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: meeting when the Russians came to Trump Tower and saying

994
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: we have dirt on Hillary Clinton. Manifert knows about it.

995
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: Why the Republican UH platform got changed to suddenly be

996
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: more pro Russian and more uh anti the existing Great

997
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Government Ukraine. Manford knows a lot of stuff about a

998
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. It's not a small thing. He knows.

999
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: He knows something's very important things about some very big,

1000
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: high profile things, and he knows a lot of ship

1001
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: about a lot of other really important, less high profile ship.

1002
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: They are the people I know who are prosecutors who

1003
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: have done this kind of thing before. Their first reaction

1004
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: to the Plea agreement was, Mueller is gonna have to build,

1005
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to have separate teams. Like it's not gonna

1006
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: be like a conversation conversation. It's gonna be like we

1007
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: got Team Russia over the money laundering team over here,

1008
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: the Trump Tower meeting team over here, the women team

1009
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: over here. It's like it's gonna He's gonna have to

1010
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: it's so extensive and what Manifert knows is so vast

1011
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have to old little prosecutorial individual teams

1012
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: to segment out the information that ties to various parts

1013
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: of the investigation. It is a big, big fucking deal. Okay,

1014
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: he's the he's the prize. You couldn't get a better

1015
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: rat if you were trying to get someone to flip.

1016
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: You already got Michael Cohen, now you've got Paul Manifort.

1017
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: The only people bigger than that our family members ostin

1018
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: God and Paul Manifort could very well know more than

1019
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: And you don't think how much would he? Eric and

1020
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: fucking Donald Jr. Those two fucking idiots. Donald Trump knows.

1021
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: I can only tell these I call him the dumb

1022
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: fuck brothers. I can only tell the dumb funck brothers

1023
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: so much. Let's say, let's let us just say for

1024
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: the for the record here that Paul Manifort is um

1025
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: measurably smarter than either one of the two Trump sons. Right,

1026
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: and he's there. However, you know Jerry Kushner smart guy, right,

1027
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: Ivanka smart lady. So again, but I'm just saying, if

1028
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: you're a prosecutor and you're looking for the rat, he's

1029
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: the guy. The Manifort and Cohen were the guys. Now

1030
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: they got them both, and they got the accountant, and

1031
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: they got David Pecker from the National Enquirer with that

1032
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: vault that's safe full of secrets. They got that guy.

1033
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: So who's left. The only people left to flip or

1034
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: is the family. And you know, if you're Mueller, yeah,

1035
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: you'd you know if you can flip Don Jr. Or

1036
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: flip or flip Jerry Kushner. I'm not saying never will,

1037
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, on your lit target list as a prosecutor,

1038
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: who do I want to get your role on Trump?

1039
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: They've rolled pretty much everybody can r on the last

1040
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: ones up there. The only ones left who know a

1041
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: lot of ship that you'd want to know who aren't cooperating?

1042
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Now are the family? All right? Your show the Circus,

1043
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: you guys basically do a mini documentary a week every

1044
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: week and it airs on Sunday. How so just talk

1045
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: to me technically about the show this week. There's we're

1046
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: doing this interview and I try to keep them time

1047
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: of us, but we're doing this interview on a Monday.

1048
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: So many different things will happen from now until that

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Speaker 1: you air the show. Like you might go, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: week we're gonna do what what? What would be the

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Speaker 1: sort of two or three things for this week's show

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Speaker 1: that you zero in on. Well, first of all, let

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Speaker 1: me say it's this is the most I I say

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Speaker 1: this not in a boastful way, but just in a

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Speaker 1: in a factual way. It is the most. The show

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Speaker 1: is the most fantastically complicated. Uh. The combination of logistical

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Speaker 1: and editorial complexity. We start shooting usually on Monday, sometimes

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, when we've just put one episode to bed.

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Speaker 1: We sometimes are shooting on Sunday night. We shoot for

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Speaker 1: five or six days. We have shot as late on

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Speaker 1: Saturday as Saturday Live where were we buy k out

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Speaker 1: here during the during the campaign and flew here from

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire with Bernie Sanders and shot him going into

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Speaker 1: thirty Rocks to be on Saturday Ight Live. Right, that's

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night shows on day. Okay, So it's the whole

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Speaker 1: thing is a giant rolling crash edit and you it's

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Speaker 1: not like a normal documentary. A documentary normally you shoot everything,

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Speaker 1: you do all the interviews, you do all the work

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Speaker 1: in the field, and then some guys sits down, they

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Speaker 1: look at it, they log all the stuff, then you

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Speaker 1: put it together like a jigsaw puzzle. We can't do

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Speaker 1: that because we couldn't. We shoot so much over the

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Speaker 1: course of the week that we couldn't wait until Saturday

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Speaker 1: to start looking at it. Too late. We gotta be

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Speaker 1: cutting and editing as we're moving through the week. Showtime

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Speaker 1: very generous with us and and incredibly trusting of our

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Speaker 1: ability to do this, they still want to see something

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Speaker 1: over the course of the week. They want to see

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Speaker 1: some stuff by Thursday, just to make sure that we're

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Speaker 1: not all out like sucking smoking weed and not do anything,

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Speaker 1: which would be like if it were just my show,

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Speaker 1: there's a chance on Thursday's day you like, hey, what's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the show this week, to be like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, shit, wait, there's a show, you know, So

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Speaker 1: we gotta cut as we're cut. We got edit rooms

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Speaker 1: running hot all week long, so we shoot on Monday.

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Speaker 1: There's guys in the in the avid rooms are cutting

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday and building a kind of rough version of

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Speaker 1: the thing, knowing that a fair amount of stuff we

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Speaker 1: shall on Monday might never make the episode because something

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Speaker 1: bigger than everything you've planned that was great and more current,

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Speaker 1: because because the news cycle is so fast and there's

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Speaker 1: that you want. You know, one of the great things

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Speaker 1: of the show is people love that they walk on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and they see some news that happened on Friday

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Speaker 1: or Saturdays in our show, they're like, you, guys, amazing, right,

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Speaker 1: But that means that the stuff that happens at the

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Speaker 1: end of the week, as the week builds, takes ends

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Speaker 1: up being more important than the stuff that the early

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Speaker 1: part of the week. Plus we don't really know what

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Speaker 1: we're doing at the beginning of the week. We're kind

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Speaker 1: of making it up right right, trying to speculate, and

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Speaker 1: in Trump lan, like in the old days when we

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Speaker 1: did the campaign, you'd be like, Oh, the New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: primaries on Tuesday, that's gonna be a big deal. Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna win? You know, we're shooting that week. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: shoot the New Hampshire primary. Who wins? Then what happens

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Speaker 1: after that? Like Tuesday's like three months Agoing that the

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Speaker 1: calendar would tell you something about how to make the episode,

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Speaker 1: because you would kind of have some idea, here's where

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Speaker 1: we have can't have we have the elections of primary, caucus, whatever.

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Speaker 1: In Trump world, like there's you know, thirty five things

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Speaker 1: happening all the time, and you never know which one

1114
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Speaker 1: is gonna catch fire and which one is gonna burn out.

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Speaker 1: Trump goes crazy on Twitter. Suddenly it's like, well, that's

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Speaker 1: the new big story and we have to try this

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Speaker 1: side every week. What's the important stuff and what's the

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Speaker 1: stuff people are gonna care about? Not just on Sunday

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Speaker 1: but hopefully in the future. And what's like, it's there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of there's wheat and chaff right with Trump.

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Speaker 1: Trump is like a human chaff machine. He just is

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Speaker 1: constantly thrown out chaff right, fake controversies, fake uh fights.

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Speaker 1: He's just he just generates so many bullshit headlines that like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta really stay focused on what mattered this week? Right,

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Speaker 1: what's the important thing? And so it's hard. The answer is,

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Speaker 1: I don't really know, Like right now, this morning, sitting here,

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Speaker 1: I know you said you like to keep these things timeless,

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Speaker 1: but this morning, right now, you know, the question of

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Speaker 1: Judge Kavanaugh and his his nomination in the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: now is in significant imperilment because this woman has come forward.

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Speaker 1: First is an anonymous allegation. Now, this woman came forward

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Speaker 1: yesterday and put her name to these accusations of sexual

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Speaker 1: assault from high school. Her lawyer went on the Today's

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Speaker 1: Show this morning and said and said, she's ready, she

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Speaker 1: wants a hearing, she ready to testify, she wants to

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Speaker 1: come up to Capitol Hill. The Republicans were praying yesterday,

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Speaker 1: now that this woman has a name attached to her,

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Speaker 1: she's willing to talk. They were all praying that she

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Speaker 1: would say, I do not want to come to I

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Speaker 1: made myself well, now now she has like, I've made

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Speaker 1: my name known, I've said what I need to say.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to be up there with all

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Speaker 1: the cameras. I don't want my life scrutinized. I'm done,

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Speaker 1: because then they could say, well, she doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: hear him, we have to respect her. Let's vote on Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: Now she's saying she wants to come and do a hearing.

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Speaker 1: So Mitch McConnell, now, he's already got a number of Republicans,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, some others who are saying, we

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Speaker 1: need to hear from this woman before we vote. She

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Speaker 1: now says she wants to be heard from. So how

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Speaker 1: long does that take. Everybody's got to do investigations. They

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Speaker 1: got to do research. The committee staff's gotta get brief.

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Speaker 1: She's got to get ready. Mcconna wanted to have the

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Speaker 1: committee vote on Thursday, and I happened. There's no way

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Speaker 1: they can have the vote on She's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: she lives in California. She's not gonna be get here

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Speaker 1: by They're not gonna get here, up here tomorrow. This

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Speaker 1: is a doing a committee hearing like this takes time.

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Speaker 1: So now they're all freaking out because the longer the

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Speaker 1: Republicans are they thought Kavanaugh was a slam dunk and

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be the one thing that every Republican

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Speaker 1: in the country would be like Trump is, Grady got

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Speaker 1: his Kavanaugh. Like now it's like, well, maybe he gets through,

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Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't get through, but even if he gets through,

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Speaker 1: he's got a sexual assault allegation against him, and Republicans

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Speaker 1: have a big problem with women voters. So like the

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Speaker 1: thing they all wanted to say in the fall, cabital

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Speaker 1: capital cavas, like, well, now even if he gets through,

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Speaker 1: they still have a problem. Right, this is gonna get

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Speaker 1: ugly real fast. And again I don't I'm not being

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'll just lay it out there. I've seen

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Speaker 1: enough of these things. I covered, uh, Clarence Thomas Needa Hill.

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Speaker 1: I was when I first got to Washington, was the board,

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Speaker 1: was when Bork was happening, right, So I've seen this

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Speaker 1: ship happen. Harriet Myers. It takes these things can take

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Speaker 1: on the quality of a wildfire, and everything seems like

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Speaker 1: it's under control until all of a sudden somebody likes

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Speaker 1: the match and throws it onto the field. And one

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Speaker 1: thing about Clarence Thomas, it was no internet, right, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's a brush fire. So again

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Speaker 1: I'm not predicting any of this, but if there are

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Speaker 1: other women out there, the likelihood of them coming forward

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Speaker 1: now is much higher. So and every report of the

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Speaker 1: country is looking for him now. So is that gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, It might not happen. Maybe the only allegation,

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Speaker 1: and this allegation may be false. I don't know. All

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Speaker 1: you know is the media environment we're live in right now.

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Speaker 1: Is there's blood in the water. Now there's blood in

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Speaker 1: the water. Democrats are like, we didn't think we had

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Speaker 1: a chance to stop this ship, and now we have

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Speaker 1: a chance to stop this ship. And reporters are now like,

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Speaker 1: we thought this guy he'd been vetted before, he's already

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Speaker 1: a federal judge. They thought they'd everything. We knew everything.

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Speaker 1: It's like, now, well we don't know everything. There's other

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Speaker 1: ship to find out. So this week Kavanaugh were gonna

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Speaker 1: be a big story. Well, we're planning to go and

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Speaker 1: do what is going when you're gonna put post Friday.

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Speaker 1: So we right now, I'm not gonna give away much

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Speaker 1: more about the episode we were planning after last week.

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Speaker 1: We were planning this week to get out on the

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Speaker 1: campaign trail in a pretty decisive way with a kind

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Speaker 1: of special episode that I'm not gonna reveal even for

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Speaker 1: your Friday podcast, but we are. We're like if we

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Speaker 1: were the first week. We thought we were gonna do

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Speaker 1: that last week, but then other things happened. The storm happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we didn't do it this week. Our plan on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Saturday, our plan was we're gonna get out to

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Speaker 1: do a big campaign out on the road, which is

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do for most of the rest of

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Speaker 1: this run is be out Senate races, governors races, House races,

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Speaker 1: following Trump around presidential candidates on the Democratic side, then

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Speaker 1: running around the country. Let's do all that ship that's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do for the rest of the run.

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Speaker 1: So this was gonna be our first week out on

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Speaker 1: the campaign trail. But now the Kavanaugh thing is like, well,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna ignore that. So how do we balance

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Speaker 1: those two things? How much of it becomes Kavanaugh does

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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh take over the whole episode? I don't know. You

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Speaker 1: could wake up on next Sunday and we could have

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Speaker 1: been up being all Kavanaugh, depending on what happens, and

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Speaker 1: who know, it could be a little Cavina and something

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Speaker 1: else could fall out of the right of course, you

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Speaker 1: know Trump, could you know, you know lunch a you know,

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Speaker 1: a preemptive like you know, peanuts strike or something on

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Speaker 1: on you know, Indonesia, I don't know. As as as

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Speaker 1: a filmmaker and as the the you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the creators of the show. Are you able to sleep

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Speaker 1: during the season of the show that I haven't had

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Speaker 1: a decent sleep. It's six so I don't know how

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Speaker 1: out about the show. How worse does it get during

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Speaker 1: this I can't even imagine worse worse. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fucking work, a lot of How many editors are there,

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Speaker 1: like key editors? Well, I mean we, like I said,

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Speaker 1: we have like five or six avid room that run

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Speaker 1: pretty much full time all the time. Now that's not rooms,

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Speaker 1: mean editing, and but two or three people, yeah, it's correct,

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Speaker 1: and they run in shifts because we got to be

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Speaker 1: editing all the time. They're drinking coffee, push up purpies,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing to keep themselves going. Right. Um, you're

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Speaker 1: you're yeah. So it's a we have at any given time,

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Speaker 1: we probably a hundred people working on the show. So

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Speaker 1: if you talk about the Cruise people right now, we'll

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Speaker 1: have this right now, we have four permanent crewise crews

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Speaker 1: in the field Cruise about ten people on a crew

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Speaker 1: plus talent. So you're right there, close to fifty just

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Speaker 1: in terms of the of the Cruise that are out

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Speaker 1: at any given point. And then you've got people in

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Speaker 1: the post production, the people who are working those in

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Speaker 1: those editing rooms, plus you know, pas and and and

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Speaker 1: people at the high people the whole thing, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of people. And because you know, like

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Speaker 1: as I'll tell you what's exhausting and talking about getting sleep,

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Speaker 1: you know, Uh, we come back at the end of

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Speaker 1: a long week. Well we've shot all this footage for

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Speaker 1: Cruise out there shooting all day long, doing interviews, fly

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Speaker 1: on the wall, verite, all this stuff. We come back

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Speaker 1: and I said, say, we've been kind of building the show,

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Speaker 1: taking the building, the plane on the runways, we're taking

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Speaker 1: off the whole week. But in the end we gotta

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Speaker 1: take a file that's a half an hour long, and

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Speaker 1: ship it to showtime at about three o'clock on Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: So that means that we got to really be locked

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Speaker 1: by late morning on Sunday, making sure everything's cream cheese, locks,

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Speaker 1: final lead it. So we basically are all in there.

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Speaker 1: From Saturday morning until Sunday morning is a twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours where everybody's just up. So like I my my,

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Speaker 1: when I'm on the show. When I'm on the show,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the road Monday through Friday, sometimes Monday through Saturday,

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Speaker 1: sometimes Sunday through Saturday, interviews the time, but by the

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Speaker 1: time I get back at the end of the interviews

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Speaker 1: and shooting and doing all this stuff we do when

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Speaker 1: we're running around all over the country a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: but pretty much every week, after that exhausting week of

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Speaker 1: like not sleeping and doing and running and jumping and

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Speaker 1: that ship, we come back and I walk over to

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Speaker 1: the left right television that guys who were our production

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Speaker 1: partners on this. I walk over to those guys. They

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Speaker 1: have a place over and Chelsea where all this happens.

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Speaker 1: I walk in the door about six o'clock at night.

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Speaker 1: I usually about six in the morning, So it's like

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Speaker 1: every Saturday night is an all nighter on top of

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Speaker 1: all the rest of the ship that goes on. Everyone

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Speaker 1: by the end of the run is like on the

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Speaker 1: verge of walking the morning or dead. I can imagine.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you how many people we've

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Speaker 1: actually killed on the show. Don't say that in the

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Speaker 1: most unbiased way for me and for my listeners and

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Speaker 1: for other people. If I said to you, John, where

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Speaker 1: do you get the best if it exists real news?

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01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: Because we know the fake news, fake news, fake news,

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Speaker 1: and whether you're on the left, the right, the in between,

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: we we all have sort of learned that there's things

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Speaker 1: are skewed. So if I said, John, where's the best

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Speaker 1: place for me to start sort of informing on myself

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: getting the most fact based news, where where would you say,

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Speaker 1: like the three places whether it's reading television or or

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Speaker 1: on on the computer to get the best source of

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Speaker 1: news besides the circus. I will, I will take I will.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put aside the television question just because you know,

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Speaker 1: one of my other jobs is I work at MSNBC

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Speaker 1: and NBC News, So I'm biased about about those places. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take up and take it out of

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Speaker 1: the equation. I don't want to comment either. I don't

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Speaker 1: either want to blow our horn or or trash our competitors.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say the two of the places that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump says are the worst fake news are the

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Speaker 1: places that are, in fact, the straightest news you can

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Speaker 1: get and the place you want to go. And both

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Speaker 1: of them are a are a miracle, uh and a

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Speaker 1: salvation for anybody who cares about the country and about

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Speaker 1: knowing what's going on. In the New York Times, the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post. There's a lot of them out there. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to short change anybody. The New York Times,

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: the greatest news institution in the world and television or print,

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Speaker 1: and and you can say whatever you want about your

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Speaker 1: Times editorial page and the op ed writers, and you

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Speaker 1: know their positions. They are reliably liberal, not all the

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Speaker 1: op ed writers, but the editorial page as reliably liberal slant.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. Um, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of liberal leaning, but there's now more conservative. They made

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Speaker 1: an effort to try to diversify their opinion pages. But

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Speaker 1: when it comes to straight news, the New York Times

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Speaker 1: the greatest, the greatest news institution in the history of

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Speaker 1: the country, The New York the failing New York Times,

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Speaker 1: and the Washington Posts is also a great institution, another

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Speaker 1: great institution. That both of them have been always great,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, not flawless. They make mistakes. Every it

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Speaker 1: makes mistakes, but they are trying to do the country's business,

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Speaker 1: trying to find out the truth and hold powerful interest

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Speaker 1: accountable every day, day and day out. And I will

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Speaker 1: say that just like in the Nixon era, when there

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Speaker 1: was a renaissance, a moment of great flourishing of in

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Speaker 1: the moment of crisis for the country, a criminal president

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Speaker 1: who needed to be driven out of office, those institutions

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Speaker 1: stood up and did some of the best work that

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Speaker 1: they've ever done. It is the case again that those

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Speaker 1: two institutions, along with a lot of others, but just

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Speaker 1: I'm pointing to those two for the sake of this conversation,

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Speaker 1: they have really in this moment of conspiracy theories, genuine

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Speaker 1: fake news, like you know, Alex Jones made up crazy

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: shit on the internet. Nobody got shot at Sandy Hook.

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Speaker 1: Trump Trump Trump out there talking about how three throws

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Speaker 1: and people didn't really die in Puerto Rico. All this bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Those guys have stood up and said, we are going

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Speaker 1: to step up our game in this moment where everyone

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Speaker 1: is people like you who were like, I don't really

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: care about politics, but now I care about politics. That's

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Speaker 1: the way it is all over the country right now.

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Speaker 1: And those two institutions have really stood up and said

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play We're gonna play at above the game

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Speaker 1: we've ever played out before. And they've done an incredible job.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, um again, not flawless the mistakes, um,

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Speaker 1: but they're very very there. If I had to, if

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Speaker 1: I had to shut off everything else and just say,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like you, I gotta you can only

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Speaker 1: have one news source, I would not only I would

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Speaker 1: I say the New York Times, failing New York Times,

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Speaker 1: failing New York Times. Not only what I says. Not

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Speaker 1: only would I say the failing New York Times, but

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Speaker 1: I would happily be like, I can live with that.

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Speaker 1: One of the places that he has gone after NBC,

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Speaker 1: NBC fakest of the fake, the shittiest of the ship

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Speaker 1: he goes out. I mean, it's funny he actually goes

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Speaker 1: out of after CNN more than he does NBC. But

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Speaker 1: he's made his extremelines, like his name names with the

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Speaker 1: NBC he has you know, he does not well, you know,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like Yes, he got a lot of enemies,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, the failing New York Times another example.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he goes after NBC does. Um he does.

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Speaker 1: I'm not Look, I think my colleagues at MSNBC, n

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Speaker 1: NBC do a great job and and I think, you

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Speaker 1: know there, I feel the same way about CNN. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, his his basic definition of fake news is news.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like right, that is what it is. That's

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Speaker 1: all it is. So again, no, no, there's no perfect institution.

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Speaker 1: But but I think that day in and day out,

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Speaker 1: the people that I work with are interested in trying

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Speaker 1: to find the truth and trying to hold powerful interest

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Speaker 1: to account, whether the Republicans or Democrats. But at this moment,

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Speaker 1: they were interested in trying to hold Donald come Trump

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Speaker 1: to account because apart from anything else, again, this is

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Speaker 1: an objective statement of fact, not a partisan thing, and

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Speaker 1: not fake news. The president just lies more than any

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Speaker 1: president ever has in history. He might lie them more

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Speaker 1: than any person even like great liars. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: you know there's a running tally, there's these guys should

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Speaker 1: do them. Now. He's like averaging six to seven public

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Speaker 1: lies a day, just blatant misstatements. False. It's demonstrably provably

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Speaker 1: false statements. So when you ever, I've never seen that before.

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Speaker 1: I've covered George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, George

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Speaker 1: Herbert Walker, Bush, Republicans and Democrats. All of them have lied,

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Speaker 1: all of them, every single one. Some have lied more,

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Speaker 1: some of that less. But Trump is in order of

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Speaker 1: magnitude greater as a liar. And if you're in the media,

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Speaker 1: one of your fundamental obligations is like when you see

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Speaker 1: a public official saying that down is up and up

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Speaker 1: is down, and red is blue and blue is red,

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Speaker 1: you gotta call him out on that ship. And and again,

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Speaker 1: no institution is perfect. But I think when I go

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Speaker 1: to when I go walk in the doors of MSNBC

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Speaker 1: and NBC, I basically see a bunch of people who

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 1: are like mostly focused on trying to make sure that Trump,

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01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: who occupies that office and occupies it in a different

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01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: way that anybody else ever has, is called on his ship.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what we're supposed to do. Um

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Speaker 1: My final question is, and again you're not a fort

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Speaker 1: to teller, so I I hate to ask you know

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Speaker 1: these questions, like you know for sure, who is the

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Speaker 1: most chance of taking down Trump in the presidential election?

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Speaker 1: In now? This is two and a half years from now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it'll start in about a year and some change, anything

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Speaker 1: could happen with these fucking allegations in this But based

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Speaker 1: on everything we know right now, I don't see who

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Speaker 1: we have who You're gonna have a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of can kind of what do I

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01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: gotta do, dude, given the way the Democratic probably owners

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Speaker 1: a Democrat. Yeah, okay, so if you're gonna as a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: all you gotta do is say, hey, I'm running man

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Speaker 1: Neil Joined, like thirty or forty other guys could be

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Speaker 1: you and uh and the Rock maybe I think maybe

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Speaker 1: a Republican. I think he'd better Cuban Howard Schultz. I

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Speaker 1: used to think Kanye was going to run on the

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Speaker 1: Democratic side, but now I think he's obviously he's gonna

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Speaker 1: it might be Trump's. He might be Trump's you want

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Speaker 1: to make a good record, he can't run for fucking

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Speaker 1: He might be Trump's running mate, right if if Pence

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Speaker 1: has to go, it could be Trump. Kanye. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine I can now at this point you would think,

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Speaker 1: like a year ago, get the funk out of here,

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Speaker 1: that's a very that could happen. I see, here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: and this is why I think you don't have a

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Speaker 1: great chance. I don't. I don't think you do. It's

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Speaker 1: partly because this whole interview was to get to this point.

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Speaker 1: He knocked me off. Myr. You just said I don't

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Speaker 1: have a great chance. I'll tell you why. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Fine. You are You are, I believe,

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Speaker 1: a truth teller, which is important. Yeah, but you are

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Speaker 1: also brash and that's why you're bright. I think that

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Speaker 1: the that that that the way that our politics work

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Speaker 1: at the national level. And I mean, I'm stealing this

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Speaker 1: from David Axrod, Barack Obama's former chief strategist. His thing

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Speaker 1: is always the theory of of that when there's a whatever,

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Speaker 1: there's a president, that what the people are looking for,

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Speaker 1: uh with the next president after that is an antidote

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: to the previous president. So it's like he's like, people ask,

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Speaker 1: how could Trump get elected after Barack Obama? And as

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Speaker 1: I would say, well, of course Trump is the opposite

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Speaker 1: of Obama. I totally agree. How could Obama get elected

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Speaker 1: after eight years of Bush? Of course Obamas the opposite

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Speaker 1: of Bush. Totally agree. So in that world, I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to say you're a trumpy but you are. But

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Speaker 1: you are a brash, outspoken New Yorker. Yes, you're a

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: little too close to Trump, even though I know you

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Speaker 1: believe in the truth. The only reason why I would

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Speaker 1: think that somebody like me or actually me goold win

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Speaker 1: is because there is no Obama. So the whole theory

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Speaker 1: of when they go low, we go high, I say,

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Speaker 1: with this animal, when they go low, we go fucking lower.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So it's like it's like with

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Speaker 1: a knockout puncher, like we we we don't have an

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Speaker 1: Ali to fight for me. And let's say he's forming.

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Speaker 1: We don't have an Alite to to rope a dopea.

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01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 1: We need a guy, we need Tyson for forming, because

1464
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: who's our Ali. So here's the thing. I think there's

1465
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna be, Uh, there's gonna be a bunch of people

1466
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: who are in the camp of uh, you gotta fight Trump,

1467
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: you gotta take it to him on his own terms.

1468
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: You gotta like play his game in his way. Again,

1469
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: that kind of fights against the theory of opposites. But

1470
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: if you like that theory, you know who's gonna just

1471
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: beat the living ship out of Trump. Right there's a

1472
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: lot of people who are all excited about Michael Avnati

1473
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: And Nope, I'm just I'm just, I'm just I'm not

1474
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: I want to tell you right now. Nope, I want

1475
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 1: to tell you right now. I'm not going to advocate anybody,

1476
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: nor am I gonna predict was saying. No, I'm just

1477
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: saying there are a lot of people excited about that.

1478
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: They think street Fighter understands media, etcetera. I think there's

1479
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: a you know that that when you think about the

1480
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: there's a whole um reality in Democrat the Democratic Party,

1481
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be even more pronounced after this October November,

1482
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: which is, if the Democrats do take back control of

1483
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: the House or the House and the Senate. The way

1484
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen and what it's gonna look like is

1485
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: the Democratic base, women, women, women, women, African Americans, Hispanics,

1486
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: those that they are gonna drive this takeover. So if

1487
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: it happens. We're gonna look up on election night and say,

1488
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: because we're looking back over what's happening in these off

1489
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: your elections and special elections. Just see how did Doug Jones,

1490
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: the Democrat win in Alabama black women? That's how it happened. Okay,

1491
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: So if we if Democrats have a big night on

1492
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: November six, people are gonna say, how did that happen?

1493
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: More women running energy among women who are piste off

1494
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: at Trump, they hate Trump, African American ladies, uh, the

1495
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Hispanic men. It's gonna be about that base. So in

1496
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: that world, is a white guy, like an old white

1497
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: guy like a Joe Biden, John Kerry, Bernie Sanders even

1498
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: is that guy gonna appeal? Or are you gonna be

1499
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: talking about people who are like Senator you know, Kamala Harris,

1500
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, fiery prosecutorial African American woman. Are you gonna

1501
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: be talking about something like better Rourke? Even the guy

1502
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: who's running down in Texas, Better Roy. He's a he's

1503
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: a white guy, but he's young, he's dynamic, and he's

1504
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna get hipload of Hispanic votes in Texas if he wins.

1505
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: If he wins, you know, there's people. I'm not saying

1506
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: these people are gonna win, We're gonna run like Alexander

1507
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: Octavio Octavio Cortez, She's not gonna run for president. But

1508
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: the fact that those kind of people are having a

1509
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: moment in the Democratic Party. If I'm Joe Biden or

1510
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders or even Elizabeth war if you're like an

1511
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: older white person, I just like the identity matters a

1512
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: lot in the Democratic Party. So maybe it's someone who's

1513
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: a younger, more diverse candidate. So I got point to

1514
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: Corey Booker or or Senator Harris. There are good examples

1515
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: of the kind of person. Uh, maybe it's someone who

1516
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: is the opposite of Trump in this way they get

1517
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: shipped done so Bloomberg. So I think you know the

1518
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: mayor New York City, Mike bloomberform Boston. Mind, I like

1519
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: the guy again, an older white man. But you know,

1520
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: let's think about someone you don't here's people you haven't

1521
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: heard about so much. Mitch Landrew, the mayor of New Orleans. Uh,

1522
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: Eric Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles. Let's think of

1523
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the guy Bettig, who is the mayor in Indiana. In

1524
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis. Well, I don't know the answer. But dude,

1525
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: now you're asking me to protest, you're asking me, who

1526
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: do I think the guy is gonna be. I'm saying, like,

1527
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: if I'm thinking about it among a cast of thousands,

1528
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: who could run, I look, I'm just thinking about who's

1529
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 1: got in a big, giant field, who's going to have

1530
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 1: a running room. You know, a candidate who appeals to

1531
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: this this new democratic base that's not new, but more

1532
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: empowered of non white, non men. That's one category where

1533
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: someone's gonna emerge. Who's gonna have a shot. And then

1534
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe there's something that's like the guy who who runs

1535
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: a diverse city in America Los Angeles, New Orleans, pick

1536
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: your city, but some mayor who's like, you know what

1537
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: Trump doesn't know shit about? Like I got crime down here,

1538
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: I dealt with opioids, I got the trash collected, I

1539
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 1: cut local taxes and and people in this complicated, diverse

1540
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: city where I manage men and women, black and brown,

1541
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: uh Asian. I was a unifying figure at the city level,

1542
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: and I know how to accomplish something. I understand how

1543
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: to make something run and work right. That totally opposite

1544
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: of this dufus in the White House. I'm beautifying and

1545
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm and I can get shipped done. That's gonna be

1546
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 1: a lane again. I can't get I can't get closer

1547
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: than that. I can kind of like look and see

1548
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: where the types are. And then it's gonna be a

1549
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 1: fucking blood bath. Oh, it's gonna be a fucking blood bath.

1550
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be a blood bath. They're all

1551
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna they're they're gonna, they're gonna be you know, it's democratic.

1552
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: Primaries are fractius, and this one's gonna especially practical, can

1553
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: be a lot of people in it. And I guarantee you.

1554
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say is that I guarantee you

1555
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some democrat that when you and I

1556
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: come back here eighteen months from now and I come

1557
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: back over here to do this again in the high

1558
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: end studio. Yeah, in the high end studio because I

1559
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: like that, because the snacks are so good, you know,

1560
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, there's assistance. Yeah, right, I

1561
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: guess God, all these people here ding we're doing the thing.

1562
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: I got a condition on one hand, Uh, you know,

1563
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing. When I come back here, there's gonna

1564
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: be someone who we have never heard of, who's gonna

1565
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: be one of the ones that we're gonna go wow,

1566
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: that person. Really, who's gonna be like, you know, the unknown,

1567
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: like really super charismatic state legislator, you know, like some

1568
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: first generation immigrant from Cambodia or Korea. Who's you know,

1569
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: a lesbian state legislator in Spokane, Washington who you've never

1570
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: heard of. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna come

1571
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and we're gonna go, Okay, I'm gonna

1572
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: get lightning in a bottle. There's gonna be someone like that. Again,

1573
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm not predicting they will be the nominee. Someone who's

1574
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna pop up who no one's talking about today. We're

1575
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna go wow, that person. They're gonna win a couple

1576
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 1: of primaries at least, and we're gonna be like wow,

1577
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 1: that could that person be the nominee? I don't know?

1578
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: All right, John Heilman, am I saying your last is

1579
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: high elman the circus eight p m Eastern from now?

1580
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: How long is this season gonna go? I want to

1581
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: ask you one question right now. Yes, I'll tell you

1582
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: the answer. Just fine. Of all the film roles you

1583
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: ever had, what's your favorite, the one that like when

1584
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: you look back, like, man, that's my that's my hall

1585
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: of fame. If I have only one Michael Rappaport movie role,

1586
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: I know what mine is for you, But I want

1587
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: to hear what you have to side, you know, and

1588
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm not being on minds. It's so hard to pick

1589
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,839
Speaker 1: one because it changes, you know, and and it evolves.

1590
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 1: The film that I think that I did that resonated

1591
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: the most with the most people. That was probably the greatest,

1592
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: like excitement to get cast in it, getting cast into it, um,

1593
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: the the shooting process and then the results, all those

1594
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: things and the time of it in the innocence of

1595
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: where I was at in my career. Is true romance?

1596
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: That's good. I was afraid you were gonna be delusional

1597
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: and not say true romance, because if you didn't say,

1598
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: if you just said something else, I would have been

1599
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: are you fucking high? What's wrong with you? But all

1600
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: the things, like you know, wanting to be in it,

1601
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, reading the script before I even knew

1602
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: I was going to be in it, to Quentin Tarantino,

1603
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: the Tony's got like all those things, My memories of it,

1604
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: because you sometimes do things I've done some film hims

1605
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: or shows or whatever, and you know, you don't think

1606
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good, and it is good, or you

1607
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: don't really like them. But people like this was like

1608
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: everything all your expectations had lived up to and twenty

1609
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: five years ago, people at least once a day someone

1610
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: brings up true romance. Dude. I'm you know, you know

1611
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: I told you before before we started, I'm a big

1612
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: fan of the of the tribe Dock. And your dog's

1613
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 1: name is five Dog and you had a clearance, clearance

1614
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: clearance from Malik himself, the great great five Dog Millie

1615
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Millie Taylor, who I couldn't name that I didn't want,

1616
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: like I thought it might be a little disrespectful, like

1617
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: somebody was more touchy to be like, you're naming my

1618
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: do your dog after me? I thought the dog like

1619
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: when I saw that when we first got he's a

1620
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: great date. And when I saw him at first, I

1621
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: looked on him like, how looks like Fife, you know?

1622
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: And my wife was like, he totally looks like Fife.

1623
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, what we got? I don't want to name

1624
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: him this it's not okay, And then then we asked him.

1625
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: He had a great sense of humor, he had a

1626
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: great sense of you know, saw the Picture of the Dog.

1627
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's right. So I just gotta

1628
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: say I loved that movie. And I'm a big fan

1629
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 1: of yours. And you do a lot of things that

1630
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 1: I admire, including this incredible podcast in this opulent studio.

1631
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: But I got I will say this. The main thing

1632
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: about true romance is that, like, there's a category of movie.

1633
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 1: And I know you're this guy. There's like many movies

1634
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: I've seen that are great films that I've seen them

1635
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: once and I will never watch them again. I watched

1636
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: them and I said, this is a great movie. I'll

1637
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: never watch it again. Maybe I'll see it once again,

1638
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, but not really. There Schindler's List, I never

1639
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: see that movie again. I think it's a great movie.

1640
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: It's a great movie, but I'm never gonna watch There's

1641
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: another category of film, especially for guys. I know that

1642
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: women aren't always quite like this that we watch over

1643
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: and over again, right, And there's movies that fall into

1644
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: that bucket. There the movie that you could watch if

1645
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: you watch it once, you could watch it five hundred

1646
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: times to have been part of a movie that is

1647
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 1: in that bucket that there are people, and I know

1648
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: not just men, but women who are like Romance. I

1649
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: watched that movie once a year. I get I get

1650
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: an itch, I get a twitch. I gotta see it.

1651
01:31:58,479 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: I see it on cable. I'm like, oh, I haven't

1652
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: seen Romance and six months, I watch that again. Or

1653
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: I'll watch half an hour of it. Yeah, I don't

1654
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: even need to see the whole thing. I just got

1655
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: five minutes. I'll watch true Romance. That's like, that's special

1656
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: to being a part of it, being a piece of

1657
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: art that is like that, that that is that people

1658
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: bring into their lives, not just once as an experience,

1659
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: but as like part of the vernacular. They can quote

1660
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: from it. Yeah, you know, it's like, I don't know

1661
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: that's it was. It was special. It was a mood,

1662
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: a lightning in a bottle movie and it and it

1663
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: lived up to all the expectations. Okay, so the circus

1664
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: were on for from now until after election day and

1665
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: then you then you take a nap. Then we take

1666
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: a nap. We don't know for how long, but what

1667
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: they can nap, we will we will from from from this,

1668
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: we finished on the Sunday. As of now, we finished

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01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,799
Speaker 1: on the Sunday after the midterm elections, which is November twelve,

1670
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: tent whatever last day is the midrom elections of the sixth.

1671
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: I can't do the math to get from Tuesday to Sunday,

1672
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: but it's something like the ten through the eleventh. Uh,

1673
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: and then we're done. And then you know, we'll see

1674
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: we'll definitely take a little bit of the holiday off.

1675
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: But I think the question to that is, like, we

1676
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen, you know, I mean, we'll

1677
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: be back, uh if Showtime lets us come back in.

1678
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: I think they probably will if we do a good

1679
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: job this fall. But uh, but the realities, we don't know.

1680
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: There could be impeachment hearing is in January. We gonna

1681
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: need are we gonna need to like maybe in February

1682
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: we need to start covering that. You know, we'll see

1683
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: what happens. And then obviously we got the presidential coming

1684
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: up in so you know, we got a big long

1685
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: runway here to do a lot of circus and uh

1686
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 1: and and I'll be probably dead uh in in December

1687
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: of but you know, hopefully by then sanity will have

1688
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: reasserted itself and will prevail in the modern world. And

1689
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 1: I won't say what that means, but let's just hope

1690
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 1: that by the time we get the December, we look

1691
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: up and say we're a same country again. All right,

1692
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: John Heilman, the Circus. I appreciate you coming on the

1693
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: Iron Rapport stereo podcasts in these Elon Musk like studios. Yes,

1694
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: although I did not smoke any weed here you saw

1695
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Musk was smoking some weird podcast. Yes, yes, would I

1696
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: have been welcome to smoke, of course you would have.

1697
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: I did, but I would have been if I had

1698
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: smoked it with you. We'll be we'd definitely be talking

1699
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: about hip hop. Well, that would be. That's gonna be

1700
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: my my, my returning engagement. We'll come here and we'll

1701
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: love We'll do it all hip hop. We'll get into that.

1702
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 1: That'll be all right, all right, thank you? All right.

1703
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: I want to thank my guy John Heilman for rock

1704
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: with me on the podcast. He actually has a dog

1705
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: named five Dog. He's not just a newsman. He's a

1706
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: good dude. Uh loves hip hop. You have to check

1707
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: out the Circus on showtime. The Circus, The greatest show

1708
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: on Earth. Every single week they're in the trenches until

1709
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: the wheels fall off. As you can tell, he's smart,

1710
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: he's able to break it down in bare bones. I

1711
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: appreciate John uh coming on the show. The Showtime Circus.

1712
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 1: I love that show. I watch it every Sunday, and

1713
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 1: they are back with I believe it is season four

1714
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: um Iron Wrappers stereo podcast. I'm done, Miles, join and

1715
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: take us out of here with something real nice, something

1716
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: real proper.