1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: I fear that we got so obsessed with longevity that 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: we lost the key principles that our body knows to 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: do to slow the aging process down. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Doctor Mindy Pell's fasting and hormone expert. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Best selling author of Age Like a Girl. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: She shares a practical fasting plus hormone framework to help 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: women lose weight and train with their cycle instead of 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: fighting it. 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: How does training like a girl biologically differ from training. 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Like a boy? Boys hormonal system work within twenty four hours. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: They have one hormone to think about. That's testosterone. Okay, women, 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: we have three sex hormones to think about, estrogen, progesterone, 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: and testosterone. 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: But strength training isn't always great for women? 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: Right? No, No, In fact they aren't telling you is 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: let's define fasting. 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: When blood sugar stays low for a significant period of time, 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: your body will flip into this other metabolism and burn 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: fat to make something called a key tone for energy. 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: The length of my fast depends on the healing mechanism 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: that I want to initiate in my body. 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: When we break the fast, what are we eating? 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: Make sure that first meal you have some kind of. 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: How I can know what stage I am at in 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: my cycle. 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: And when day one through day ten estrogen is building. 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: From day ten to day fifteen of a woman's cycle, 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: she gets the most amounted. We have lost our ability 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: to understand our own natural rhythm. 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: What's the biggest thing people still get wrong about women's bodies? 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to tell you two things. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: This is Kate Max with Post Run High. Today's conversation 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: is with doctor Mindy Pell's, a leading voice in women's 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: health and best selling author. We want to thank you 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: so much for being here. Please don't forget to follow 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: the show wherever you're listening, and we will be right 37 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: back with our conversation after this short break. 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Doctor Mindy Pal's welcome to Post Run High. 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, Kat. I'm so happy to be here. 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 2: I'm so happy you're here. How are you feeling well? 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I have a mixture of gosh. 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: I should have probably walked even more before I came 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: here because I like the post run High but or 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: the post walk High. But now I'm a little hot 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: and sweaty. 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: Are you a pinot? Are you a Post Run High advocate? 47 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh? Huge? Yeah? In fact, do you know about the 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: fan nap. No, this is the thing that we used 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: to say all the time when we would go to 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: the gym and work out really hard. Is that and 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: it was summertime, is that you need to come home 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: lie on the bed with a fan on. And it 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: was like your reward for the hard workout. So I 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: once I started to learn the power of the fan 55 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: nap and how great it felt to just be like, oh, 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: that was incredible. I started looking at the reward system 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: after a run, a surf. You know, anything, whatever you do, 58 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the next thing is going to be the best thing 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: you do. 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Oh I kind of love that. So the podcast is 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: going to be the best thing. 62 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Right exactly? Exactly? 63 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 3: Well, Mindy and I just walked probably a little under 64 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: a mile around West Hollywood in Los Angeles. But you 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: are a bit of a runner yourself, right, Yeah, So 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: what is like your fitness? 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: Your team typically look like, Oh. 68 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: My god, it's changed so much with menopause, And it 69 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: changed so much with my work schedule because I just 70 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: launched a book, and so you sort of lose your 71 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: time to wherever the media wants you to go. But 72 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: I would say before, like in my thirties and even 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: my early forties, I was like put on the running 74 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: shoes three to four days a week. I would go 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: anywhere from six to ten miles like that was my jam. 76 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I was living up in northern California and so great 77 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: mountain runs. I love that. And then to balance that, 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: I would do yoga. So I would always try to 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: do some kind of counterbalance so that I wasn't just 80 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: go go go fast forward. Now I'm fifty six and 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I do it so different. So the big thing I'd 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: started doing this year is I surf now. But then 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: you have to look at surf not as just a 84 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: leisure to thing. You have to think about it through 85 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the workout. Lens so great for the upper arms. A 86 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: lot of paddling, and then when you paddle back out 87 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: after catching a wave is like hit training. And so 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: I try to paddle back out as fast as I 89 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: can so I can get my heart rate up. And 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: then in the usually I mean, because I have a 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: little more time after the book stuff, I will go hiking. 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: And I'm a big wrecker. I like to put the 93 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: weighted vest on and go into the forest and go 94 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: for a hike with my dog Mindy. 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: I wish we went into the forest with weighted vest 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: on and went for a hike, would have been good. 97 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: Okay, we're saving that for next time. 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, have you done the way to vest? 99 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: No? 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well, so let's talk about the way to vest. Okay, 101 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: tell me because I think your audience might like it. 102 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: So remember, it's just added weight on your core. So 103 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: this is what I love. I don't like the ones 104 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: that go on your back. But you have weights on 105 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: your front and weights on your back so that the 106 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: weight is evenly distributed. So you know, if you think 107 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: about it, when you're walking or running, you tend to 108 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: lean forward a little bit. With the rocking vest it 109 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: forces you to leave back, so you're strengthening your ab 110 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: muscles and your back muscles while you're running. So it's 111 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: a really good way to just completely strengthen this whole torso. 112 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: But for menopausal women it's the science is showing that 113 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: it helps prevent osteoporosis. So it doesn't have to be 114 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: a high impact walking hiking with a wrecking vest on. 115 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: It tells sends the signal to your bones and says, hey, 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: be sure you hold onto calcium and phosphorus and be 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: stronger because we have this. 118 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: Extra weight, and I feel like when it comes to menopause, 119 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: you hear a lot about osteoporosis, and a lot of 120 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: people would say, well, the best thing you can possibly 121 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: do for women is for women to strength training, right, 122 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: But strength training isn't always great for women, right. 123 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: No. 124 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: No. 125 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: In fact, it's really interesting because what is they aren't 126 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: telling you is that the most common injury for a 127 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: menopauseal woman is a frozen frozen shoulder, which is what 128 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: it's where you are lifting or like you can get 129 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: it from tennis or something, but you're lifting such heavy 130 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: weights that the muscle sees up and now you have 131 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: limited range of motion. It's literally as it sounds, it's 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: a frozen shoulder. But the mechanism behind that is because 133 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: as you go through perimenopause and menopause, you lose those 134 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: you lose estrogen, and we have estrogen receptor sites in 135 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: every single joint in our body, so you start getting 136 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: hip injuries, shoulder injuries. I was just talking to a 137 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: friend the other day who got a tennis elbow injury 138 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: from weightlifting. So we have to be careful to not 139 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they the sciences lift really heavy weights at 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: low reps for menopause for muscle training, but then the 141 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: science also says you're more prone to these injuries, so 142 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to make sure you balance that out 143 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: with a lot of stretching and a lot of rest. 144 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 3: And what does balance look like for mental pauseal women? 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Like if you're breaking it down kind of on a 146 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: month by month basis, week by week, like how often 147 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: are they strength training? How often are they doing cardio? 148 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: And how often are they hiking with a weight invest Yeah. 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I love this is such a great question because I 150 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: call it exercise variation that we really just like what 151 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: I taught fasting variation and food variation. Like we need 152 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to go, Okay, here's in my toolbox. This is what 153 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: I have. I have wrecking, I have HIT training, I 154 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: have strength training of yoga, and you're gonna want to 155 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: even those out throughout your week. So three days of 156 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: strength training is great. They say heaviest weight you possibly 157 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: can for about eight reps. So that doesn't have to 158 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: be complicated, that doesn't have to be hours in the 159 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: gym if unless you want to do that yoga, you 160 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: definitely need flexibility and balance. One of the biggest challenges 161 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: for women as they age is if they lose their 162 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: balance and then they'll break a hip. So a lot 163 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: a lot of yoga, or if you don't love yoga, 164 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: do a lot of flexibility exercises. Then we got to 165 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: think about cardio, and so you get to choose what 166 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: cardio is going to be the most effective for you 167 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: or that you like. But running can be good, But 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: running can injure menopausal women too, because like, this is 169 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: how I stopped running was because I kept getting hip 170 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: and knee injuries. That's the loss of estrogen. So this 171 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: is where I like the hiking with a with a 172 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: wrecking vest on because it'll get you that same cardiovascular 173 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: challenge that running will, but it's much easier on your joints. 174 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: Now, what about walking with a vest on? 175 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Because you know, you live in California, and the luxury 176 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: living in California and why I love being out here 177 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: in the winter is you have easy access to nature 178 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: and beautiful hikes and easy kind of nature trails to 179 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: go on. But you know, for our listeners that maybe 180 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: don't have that access. I'm thinking of my mom who 181 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: lives in Connecticut and New York. It's pretty flat where 182 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: she is is walking just as effective, asked, Okay. 183 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: Vest on. So the thing is you'll notice is your heart. 184 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: You're going to be out of breath a lot easier. 185 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: That's what you want. You want to push yourself cardiovascularly, 186 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: so you can just walk briskly if you want. I 187 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: think the first time you put a vest on, you 188 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: have to understand that it's going to feel awkward. It 189 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: might even you might be a little sore in your 190 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: back muscles, and you might be out of breath much quicker. 191 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: So walking with them great walking hills. So like here 192 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: in the Palisades, when I was living there, there was 193 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: this great hill and I would put a fifteen pound 194 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: wrecking vest on and I would go straight up this hill. 195 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: And I had decided that that gave me the best 196 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: endorphin rush. It gave me the greatest workout that I 197 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: had found for my menopausal body because I wasn't running anymore. 198 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you wrote a book recently that just 199 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: came out in December twenty twenty five called Age Like 200 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: a Girl, And guys, you're going to hear the term 201 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: like a Girl a lot in medianized conversation today because 202 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: you've really coined that term you've made it your own, 203 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: which I mean, I just love. I love that we're 204 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: speaking to women because women's bodies are so different than 205 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: men's bodies. And I've interviewed so many athletes, from Olympians 206 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: to professional just athletes in their field. You know, I 207 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: just interviewed this woman, Michelle Wee, who's a professional golfer, 208 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: and she said that, you know, she had wished she 209 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: knew how to work out like a girl when she 210 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: was younger, because it would have prevented so many of 211 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: the injuries she had to deal with. So when it 212 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: comes to aging like a girl, you know, is working 213 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: out and workout variation extremely important. 214 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was. I did a whole chapter 215 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: on exercise in the book because and I did it 216 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: through the lens of an ex collegiate athlete. Like I 217 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: went roaring into my forties and I really had one goal, 218 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: and that was to be in the best shape of 219 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: my life. And I got there, but by forty three, 220 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: the thing that was getting me fit was now the 221 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: thing that was injuring me, and so I didn't really 222 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: quite understand the mechanism behind that. So here's the deal is, 223 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: as estrogen goes down so does collagen and creating. So 224 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: estrogen stimulated those two nutrients in your body. So you 225 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: need to understand that that means more friction on your joints. 226 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: So all the pounding is going to lead many times 227 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: to more of the injuries. So and you could add 228 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: in collagen and creating. That's phenomenal added in, but just 229 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: be aware that you're more prone to these joint injuries. 230 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: So the box jumping, the CrossFit, oh my god. In 231 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: my practice, I had all these crazy CrossFit women that 232 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,359 Speaker 1: were like in their fifties, totally injuring themselves doing CrossFit. 233 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: But they're like, I'm in the best shape of my life, 234 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: but I can't walk, I can't raise my arm. I 235 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: kept saying, like, why you stop the CrossFit? And then 236 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: nobody ever want to stop it. So there's an example 237 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: of you need to shift what you're doing and be 238 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: a lot more intentional about not putting so much pressure 239 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: on your joints. 240 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also sometimes exhaustion and pain that comes as 241 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: a result of working out can be equated to being 242 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: sore from getting a great workout in, but that's not 243 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,479 Speaker 2: always the case. 244 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Right right, Well, and soreness is interesting for menopausal women, 245 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: because low testosterone can give you soreness and you're doing 246 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: the same workout and you're like, wait, why, Like I'm 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: so sore. So there is this massive neurochemical shift that 248 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: requires a massive lifestyle shift. So a couple interesting things 249 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: that I really looked into when I put the book together. 250 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: One was, you know, we always talk about longevity and 251 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: grip strength, Like the biggest indicator to how well you're 252 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: going to age is grip strength. So I was like, well, 253 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: then we should be doing after forty exercises that help 254 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: our grip strength, right, So you could do those, You 255 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: can do pull ups, you can have just your hand 256 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: on a bar and just do like, you know, hang 257 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: from a bar for a couple of minutes. But we 258 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: really need our hands to be strong because you don't 259 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: think about it, but when you're eighty and ninety and 260 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: you fall on the ground or you're trying to get 261 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: up out of a chair, you need functionality, and your 262 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: hand is a big one. So that would be the 263 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: first thing I would say. The second thing is that 264 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: we have to be really mindful to keep our hips lubricated. 265 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: So when I went back and I looked at what 266 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: the hunter and gatherers did. Those postmenopausal women, they did 267 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: a lot of squatting, and so they had to squat 268 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: to forge for food. They were pulling tubers out of 269 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: the soil, and so squatting. I looked into squatting, and 270 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, the science on squatting is really impressive 271 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: for helping with not only joint pain and prevention of injuries, 272 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: but also with making sure that you have better posture 273 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: as you age, that you don't have low back pain, 274 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: keeps your core strong. So it's funny. I all of 275 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, in researching and writing the book, I found 276 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: myself taking squatting breaks and trying to just get my 277 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: hips to open up. And how much better I felt 278 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: just from that. So I think the focus, Here's what 279 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping people gather, is that when we're younger, the 280 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: focus becomes so much about fitness being how do I look. 281 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say this, yeah. 282 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: And then there's a point, and I'm really speaking as 283 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: an ex athlete that really had to come to, like 284 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: wrestle with the fact that I had to change my 285 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: workout for functionality now and it doesn't mean you can't 286 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: look good, but you have this massive neurochemical change, and 287 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: so you need to start thinking more from a lens 288 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: of I'm just gonna go ahead and do my CrossFit 289 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: class and injure myself because I like how I look. 290 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: You want to sort of redefine the way you are 291 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: looking at health and go wait, I want to be 292 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: able to walk at eighty. I want to be able 293 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: to get up off the ground at eighty. I don't 294 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: want to end up with a hip fracture at eighty. 295 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,359 Speaker 1: I think that's what happens as you go through this experience. 296 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: I think one of the things that I'm really liking 297 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: as it comes as like a buzzword in health right 298 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: now and we've gone through so I mean, I feel 299 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: like in my twenties it was like keto diet and 300 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: gluten free and silliac. I mean, siliac is a different 301 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: kind of thing, but people decided to be gluten free 302 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: that weren't silliac. You know, There's been so many different 303 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: types of like health fads that people have gone through. 304 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: The one word that I am really liking is longevity 305 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: and longevity practices because I agree, I think like a 306 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: lot of times we can be short minded with our 307 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: fitness goals like I want to look great for my 308 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: wedding in six months. You know, I want to look 309 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: great for X, Y and Z event that I have 310 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: coming up. 311 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: But I think it is. 312 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: So important as people that want to live a healthy 313 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: lifestyle for a long duration of time, Like I know 314 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: that I want to be able to run for. 315 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: As long as I possibly can. 316 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that doesn't mean I can run every single day, 317 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: that's right. That doesn't mean I can be a marathon writer, 318 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: you know. But so how do you think we should 319 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: You know, I'm twenty. 320 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: Eight years old. 321 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: I think a lot of my listeners are in there, 322 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, twenty three to forty four years old. What 323 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: can we be doing in our twenties to set ourselves 324 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: up for our thirties and forties? 325 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I get asked this question so much, 326 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: and I just love that we're that this keeps coming up, 327 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: because that's really the game of health is to do 328 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: something today that your tomorrow's self will thank you for. Like, 329 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: think about working out now. We like it. It feels good, 330 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: the post high, you get all the endorsement endorphins, but 331 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you're also doing it today so that two days later 332 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: or a day later you look in the mirror and 333 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: you're like, how you look? So I think we have 334 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: to start to realize that what you're doing today is 335 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: going to set you up for your health forever. So 336 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: don't push through these injuries. I think that's the biggest one. 337 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Don't push through the injuries. Listen to your body and 338 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: make sure that you're not using that sort of I 339 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: can do anything attitude, and yet pretty soon you can't walk. 340 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: You know. 341 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: This is not necessarily through the lens of like a girl. 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: But my husband was a semi pro soccer player, and 343 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I kept saying, you gotta in the twenties and thirties. 344 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta do yoga, you gotta stretch, 345 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: You're going to get injured. And he was like yeah, yeah, yeah, 346 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: And he just went out and played soccer all the time. 347 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: And then he just had a hip replacement last year, 348 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: like after a while his joints were wore out. So 349 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: if I was in my twenties and thirties right now, 350 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: I would be focused on exercise variation. I would be 351 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: focused on weightlifting, for sure. I think one of the 352 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: things that we don't talk enough about, and we probably should, 353 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: is it's so much harder to build muscle as you age, 354 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: So build it and keep it is the name of 355 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: the game at twenty and thirty, because I can tell 356 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: you I used to look at weights in my twenties 357 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: and I would build muscle, and I almost to the 358 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: point that I felt too thick. And now I'm trying 359 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: so hard to build muscle. It's a very different experience. 360 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: So I think if you can go into your forties 361 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: with really good muscle strength, really good flexibility, a great 362 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: exercise variation program, then you're going to find that you 363 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: can weather those perimenopause yaar is much easier. 364 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: How does training like a girl biologically differ from training. 365 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: Like a boy? 366 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so boys hormonal system work within twenty four hours, 367 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: and they have one hormone to think about. That's testosterone. 368 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: So testosterone will actually get released from the outer tissue 369 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: of the testes. It goes up into the brain and 370 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: converts to progestone up there. So a man only has 371 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: to pit play by the rules of one hormone, and 372 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: testosterone likes heavyweights, hard activities that kind of like aggressive, 373 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: sort of kill it mentality does well with testosterone. Okay, women, 374 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: we have three sex hormones to think about estrogen, progesterone, 375 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: and testosterone. Estrogen loves when you're doing a lot of 376 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: aerobic activity, a lot of hit training. Estrogen wants you 377 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: to keep cortisol down. I'm sorry, Estrogen wants you to 378 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: keep glucose down but doesn't mind if cortisol goes up. 379 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: So you're really intense hit training where and I think 380 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: all women should be doing this where you're like out 381 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: of breath that starts to signal something called growth hormone, 382 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: and growth hormone balances all the other hormones. So whenever 383 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: you're making estrogen, which is day one through dayifen around 384 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: then really hard aerobic activity to keep glucose low, and 385 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: then you can and really get that fitness level up 386 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: in the growth hormone then testosterone. This was something we 387 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: didn't even talk about on the walk, but I've been 388 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: really like this in all my research. I was like, 389 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: why are fitness trainers not using the ovulation period to 390 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: really make sure that women can build muscle the best 391 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: during that time, because from day ten to day fifteen 392 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: of a woman's cycle, she gets the most amount of testosterone. 393 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: The rest of the rest of her cycle she's not 394 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: getting testosterone, so why are we not teaching her to 395 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: lift weights from day ten to day fifteen When she 396 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: has all this testosterone, She's going to be able to 397 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: build more muscle during that time. And then progesterone, for 398 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: a woman doesn't like cortisol high. So if you do 399 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: the workout that estrogen loves, progesterones like does not love 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: that workout. So and whenever progesterone comes in, we need 401 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: to do more rest and recovery. So I actually, and 402 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: I did. Do you know Tony Horton, No, oh my god, 403 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: you need to bring Tony Horton. 404 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Tony Horton, you're coming on post run high. 405 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: Come. 406 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys would be two peas in 407 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: a pond. Okay. So Tony did something called P ninety X. 408 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: Okay do you remember, Yes, yes, yes, I've never done it, 409 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: but I know it. 410 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Okay. So Tony was like one of the first people 411 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: to really make a homework out a hard one, and 412 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: he had this thing called P ninety X and you 413 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: did it. You did these workouts every day for ninety days. 414 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: And so when I was in my thirties, I did 415 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: it for years. I just kept doing them over and 416 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: over and over again. Well, a couple of years ago 417 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: when FASTag a Girl came out, I met him and 418 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, Tony, you really need to 419 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: do a workout that maps to a woman's menstrual cycle. 420 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: And so we did, and it's called Powersink sixty. It's 421 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: out there in the world somehow, somewhere in Tony's land, 422 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: but we really came up with how do you take 423 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minute workouts and customize them to the hormones 424 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: that are coming in during that menstrual cycle. This is 425 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: like something that I'm not interested necessarily in creating, but 426 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: some fitness trainer out there, somebody should create that kind 427 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: of program. I mean, Tony and I started it, and 428 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: I just feel like more women need to start to 429 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: look at that through that look at fitness through the 430 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: lens of your hormones. 431 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 3: And I think also if there was a trainer like 432 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Tony or whoever out there, has like an online platform 433 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: that can easily do it. I personally I love home workouts. 434 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: We're in California for the next for these three months, 435 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 3: I don't have a gym here that I'm working out at, 436 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: so I'm going for runs outside and I'm doing the 437 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 3: kind of the apps that I love doing, and I'm 438 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: currently pregnant, and one of the apps that I love 439 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: doing makes it so easy to know what workouts I 440 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: can be doing based on the week of my pregnancy, which, 441 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: by the way, for a pregnant woman, is so helpful 442 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: because there's so many things that you have to stay 443 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: away from and there's certain things that you don't realize, 444 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 3: but you actually can. 445 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: Push yourself today. So that's been super helpful. 446 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 3: So I can only imagine if there was a cycle 447 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: kind of tracking system just made so simple, stupid in 448 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: an app, it would be great, right. 449 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I just keep thinking, somebody is gonna do it, you 450 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And I'm sure we could do it. 451 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: But but you know, the other thing you can do 452 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: with AI now is go into a chat GPT and 453 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: just say what workout should I do according to my 454 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: menstrual cycle? Because it is out there in the zeitgeist, 455 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: we're hearing about it more and more. When I put 456 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: together what I call the fasting cycle and fast like 457 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: a Girl, which was here's what you should eat, here's 458 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: the length fast you should do at different times of 459 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: your cycle, I happen to be on a call with 460 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: the one of the trainers who had worked with Tom Brady, 461 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: and he was also working with a lot of collegiate 462 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: female athletes, and I asked him, so this was what 463 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: four years ago? I asked him, like, with your collegiate 464 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: female athletes, do you do something different the week before 465 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: her period? And he goes, oh, yeah, And I was like, really, 466 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: what do you do? And he's like, well, you have 467 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: to go into rest and recovery that week. I was like, okay, 468 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: how does this male trainer know that? And so many 469 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: women don't know that. So I think there is there 470 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: is sort of the cultures getting hooking on too different exercises, 471 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: different time of the cycle. It's just we haven't landed 472 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: on what exactly that looks like. 473 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: But you know what's hard about that when I think 474 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: about a college setting and I have brothers that played 475 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: D one lacrosse, I did cross country for like a 476 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: hot sec. Maybe we shouldn't quote that on the on 477 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: the show nobody look at my times, but you were 478 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: a collegiate tennis player. You know, when you're in a 479 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: tennis program, you do what the other girls are doing, 480 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: you do what the trainer is scheduling you do. Every 481 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: girl is on a different cycle. So, like, say you're 482 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: a college athlete listening to this podcast, like and you 483 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: know you're interested in matching your workouts to cycles, thinking 484 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 3: what do you do in a situation And you might 485 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: know from experience where you know you're in college, you're 486 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: working out with your team, you're doing what your coach 487 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: says to do, but you know it's not right for 488 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: your cycle that month, and it might actually limit your performance, right, And. 489 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: You don't want to be the one that's like, hey, 490 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: I can't do it that. You don't want to be 491 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: the week link because they pretty much own you when 492 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: you're at that point. 493 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: They'll just tell you and athletes are too competitive. Ye exactly, 494 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: we're not going to be the week week link out here. 495 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: You know exactly. Okay, So a couple of things. Just 496 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: know that you don't want it. You don't want too 497 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: many cortisol rich activities. So if you were working out hard, 498 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: you were studying hard, you were staying up late, you're 499 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: partying hard, Like, that's a lot of cortisol and eventually 500 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: that's going to be hard on the body. So that 501 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: would be the first thing The second thing is I 502 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: would talk to your coach, because your coach doesn't want 503 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: you injured, so you might need to do a little 504 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: like instead of giving it one hundred percent, you might 505 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: have to give it two thirds or like give it 506 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: like an eighty percent sort of effort, so that you 507 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: just are aware you're more prone to injury that week before. 508 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: And then the third thing is that I think every 509 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: athlete should do, but I'm not sure that we do 510 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: it all the time, which is prioritize sleep so that 511 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: you just I'm aware that the week before your period 512 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: you need a little more rest and recovery. And so 513 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: if you can't get that rest and recovery on whatever, 514 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: like for me it was the tennis court, you need 515 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: to get to bed a little bit earlier, which also 516 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: could be hard for a collegiate athlete, but something to consider. 517 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 3: And I want you to talk to me like I'm 518 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: a fifth grader because sometimes when it comes to sciencey 519 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: stuff like tracking my cycle or like, guys, like the 520 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: amount of things I've had to learn about pregnancy has 521 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: been like beyond and thank God for things like chat 522 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: ept and what to expect when you're expecting and all 523 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: these things that you know you can learn, but talk 524 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: to me like I'm a fifth grader, and explain to 525 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: me my cycle and how I can know what stage 526 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: I am at in my cycle and when. And this 527 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: is happening every single month, guys. So it happens like clockwork. 528 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Right, yep? Okay, so first day one, this is the 529 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: one thing I learned with fast like a girl. I 530 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: was like, wow, so many women don't even know day 531 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: one of their period. So day one is the day 532 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: you actually need feminine care products. Like you're like, I, okay, 533 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm actually on my period. 534 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: The crimson wave has come. 535 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Crimson wave. 536 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: There we go. 537 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: You're not spottying. You're not like, oh is my period here? No, 538 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: you're like, my period is here. Okay. That's day one. 539 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Day one through day ten, estrogen is building, so it's 540 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: like slowly, little bit a little bit each day until 541 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: you get into ovulation where estrogen will peak usually around 542 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: day twelve. But I always say day one to day 543 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: ten you want to play by rules of estrogen, which 544 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, which is keep glucose down. So 545 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: this is great for the keto diet, This is great 546 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: for fasting, This is great for hard workouts, and estrogen 547 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: doesn't really care if cortisol goes high, so you can 548 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, stay up late things like that. So that's 549 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: the first ten days. Day eleven you move into I 550 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: have ovulation, and every woman ovulates different and every month 551 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: we ovulated a different day. We ovulate out of each 552 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: ovary differently, like it's it's a moving target. This is 553 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: why getting pregnant for many people is really hard. So 554 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: day eleven to day fifteen, estrogen's gonna peak. We already 555 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: talked about estrogen is gonna make ligaments really relaxed. But 556 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: estrogen also brings in serotonin and dopamine and a lot 557 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: of neurotransmitters that make you feel really good. So at 558 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: like day twelve thirteen, estrogen peaks, you feel really good 559 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: because you're getting all those neurochemicals, but you're also getting testosterone. 560 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: From day ten to day fifteen, you're getting testosterone, so 561 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel motivated. You're gonna might want to go 562 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: work out more during that time because of all you 563 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: might your libido goes up. That's biologically intended to happen. 564 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 1: So those are all really great and you get a 565 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: little bit of progesterone during that time, so you literally 566 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: get all three hormones in this ovulation period. So I 567 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: called it in fast like a girl. I called it 568 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: the manifestation phase because I was like, well, we're pretty 569 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: magical during that time. We can do anything we want 570 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: with all those hormones pumping in. And then after day 571 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 1: fifteen you start to go into the back half of 572 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: your cycle. And from about day fifteen to day eighteen, 573 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: your body's pretty resilient. You can do whatever you want, 574 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: like you can lift hard, you can work out a lot, 575 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: you can skimp on sleep, You're gonna be fine. You 576 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: can whatever feels natural. But as we get today nineteen 577 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: and twenty, this is progesterone's moment, and I think this 578 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: is the part of the menstrual cycle that women are 579 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: not understanding and not doing right. When progesterone comes in, 580 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: two things need to happen. Progesterone needs more glucose, so 581 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: you want to get your carblowed up, because the more 582 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: glucose you have in the system, the more progesterone your 583 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: body can make. Progesterone, which how many of us crave 584 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: carbs the week before our period, That is by biological 585 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: design that your body needs more carbohydrates, so it makes 586 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: you crave it, so the glucose goes up. The second thing, 587 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: and this is where we as women in this modern 588 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: world have really lost our way, is that progesterone does 589 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: not like cortisol. The phrase that I use is when 590 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: cortisol is high, progesterone is shy. She's out. So we 591 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: talked about the female athlete, how she'll lose her period 592 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: the week before, she'll just stop getting a period. That's 593 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: because she's working out so hard. There's so much cortisol 594 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: that progesterone is like, no, it's not safe for me 595 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: to make my appearance. With fasting, I found that so 596 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: many women were losing their cycle. And then I stopped 597 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 1: having them fast the week before their period, and all 598 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: their cycles came back, and it was because cortisol was 599 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: too high when they were fasting. Women that are dieting 600 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: and they're like counting calories and like restricting during that time, 601 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: they're not only keeping glucose low, but they're also having 602 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: this effect where cortisol is high because they're in this 603 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: real deprivation state. So that week when women say to me, actually, 604 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: it's when my period comes that I am the most uncomfortable. 605 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: I used to say, that's because you didn't mind the 606 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: week before your cycle. Does that make sense? 607 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: It does, because like the week before my cycle, even 608 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: whether it's four days or three days, I know myself 609 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: and it's like you really have to listen. 610 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: As a woman, like we are so intuitive. 611 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: We have got feelings, like we know what's going on 612 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: in our body, and we know what we need. And 613 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: I think it's when we shy away from those things 614 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: that are so clear that we need, Like, for example, 615 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: three to four before I get my period. 616 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: Every single time, I am ravenous. I'm eating every single thing. 617 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: But that's by design. 618 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's by design, and like I've had to give 619 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: into that. And by the way, I'm not gaining weight 620 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: those days. 621 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: That's actually the total opposite. 622 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So on that, I really you bring up such 623 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: a good point because I used to when I first 624 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: started teaching fasting to my practice, I had a lot 625 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: of high achieving women that were, you know, cardio bunnies. 626 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: They just would work out so hard, and that I 627 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: taught them how to fast, and now they were working 628 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: out hard and they were fasting hard, and they would 629 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: come in the week before their parod and they would 630 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I'm really struggling to fast this week. 631 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. And that's when I 632 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: saw this pattern that, Oh my god, all those times 633 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: we were like I'm craving chocolate, I just want to 634 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: eat a box of pizza, that actually was our body saying, 635 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: please give me more glucose so that I can make 636 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: this hormone so that your uterine lining can shed. So 637 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: but as women, what do we do? We're like, oh 638 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: my god, I can't stick to my workout this week. 639 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why I can't stick to my diet, 640 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: and we think somehow it's our fault. And what I'm 641 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: really trying to get across is it's not our fault. 642 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: It's that you have a rhythm to follow, and when 643 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: you follow it, the ravenous won't be there. And the 644 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: women that were doing so much fasting and so much 645 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: working out and not honoring that week before, they were 646 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: gaining weight because the body was like, we don't know 647 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: when there's going when this cortisol is going to stop, 648 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: and we don't know when the next meal is coming, 649 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: so we're going to hold on to all this fat 650 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: So I did this really interesting thing where I took 651 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: these women and I said, Okay, I just want you 652 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: to eat all the and I gave them healthy carbs, 653 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to work out, and I 654 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: don't want you to fast. The week before your period, 655 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: every single one of them lost weight. So the point 656 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: you made, I think that I that I really want 657 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: people to understand is that we have a tendency to 658 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: think weight gain is because we weren't disciplined with our 659 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: food and our exercise. But it's more complicated than that. 660 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Weight gain can happen because you didn't understand the hormonal 661 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: rhythm of your body, and so it became stressful for 662 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: your body. So it just held on to Wait. 663 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like the female body from what you're saying, 664 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 3: it seems like the female body gives us this natural, 665 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: built in roadmap to follow to look and feel our best. 666 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but what do we do We push through that? 667 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: Like because of societal norms? 668 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we pushed through it, and because we want 669 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: to look good, we want to be thin, we want 670 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: to participate in everything. We don't necessarily want to be 671 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: left out of anything. We want to do everything like 672 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: a man. Maybe we're in a partnership where we're like, oh, 673 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: my husband's going hiking. I want to go hiking. My 674 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: husband's eating that, but I don't, you know, I'm over 675 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: here dieting, Like we have lost our ability to understand 676 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: our own natural rhythms and what I'm Probably one of 677 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: the things I'm the most proud of with fast like 678 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: a Girl is. It really started a conversation where women 679 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, what else am I supposed to be 680 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: doing with my menstrual cycle? How should I be eating? 681 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: What supplements should I be taking? What should my sleep 682 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: patterns be? How should I work out? That's how we 683 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: need to think. It's not a man can get away 684 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: with a seven day weekly schedule. We need a monthly schedule. 685 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: Let's define fasting. Okay, what is fasting? 686 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: So okay, So the best way I can explain it 687 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: is through the lens of what I call the metabolic switch. 688 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: So you have two metabolisms. You have one that is 689 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: coordinated by food. Every time you eat, your blood sugar 690 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: goes up. We call that the sugar burner metabolism. Then 691 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: you have another metabolism it's called the fat burner metabolism, 692 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: and it's when blood sugar stays low for a significant 693 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: period of time, your body will flip into this other 694 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: metabolism and burn fat to make something called a key 695 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: tone for energy. So with fasting, one of the things 696 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: I really wanted to bring out there to people is 697 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: everybody would say to me when they come into my office, like, 698 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: I think my metabolism is slow. I think my metabolism 699 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: slowed down. And I'm like, no, you just didn't know 700 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: about this fat burning metabolism that when you go eight 701 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: to twelve hours without food, your body metabolically shifts over 702 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: into a whole nother energy source, and that energy source 703 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: burns fat to make key tones. That energy source is fasting. 704 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: To me, it is when you've learned to go an 705 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: extended period of time without raising blood sugar, which we 706 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: can talk about in a moment, and you're switching yourself 707 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: over into this place where you haven't eaten, and the 708 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: body will burn fat to be able to give you 709 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: a new energy source. 710 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: So when it comes to fasting, like I feel like, 711 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: when I think of fasting, I think and I know 712 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: we talked about it this a little differently, which I 713 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: loved your point that you made on the run, and 714 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,959 Speaker 3: I don't know whether it makes it into the video 715 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: or not, but you said, you know, one of the 716 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: simplest things I tell women is you eat during the 717 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: daylight yep, and you stop eating when. 718 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: It's no longer daylight. 719 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: So and when I previously have heard about fastening, it's 720 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: kind of like you're eating in like a seven to 721 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: eight hour window. And I don't know if those hours 722 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: are right. I just like know it's like kind of 723 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 3: an hourly window. My mom actually swears by it, and 724 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: you know, she's post meant, she's a post menopausal woman 725 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: and she loves it when it comes to feeling her 726 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: best and looking her best. 727 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: So, like, how do you structure it for people? 728 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? So okay, Well I in fast like a girl. 729 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: I mapped out six different length fasts and that was 730 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: based off of just a ton of research and what 731 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: I saw with my patients. So the way I look 732 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: at fasting is I look at it like the length 733 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: of my fast depends on the healing mechanism that I 734 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: want to initiate in my body. So if I go 735 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen hours without food, I know I'm stimulating 736 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: this growth hormone and I know that growth hormone helps 737 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: me burn fat and helps me make other hormones. So 738 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: if I'm hormonally feeling off, I'm going to be like, Okay, 739 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: I need twelve hours thirteen somewhere between twelve and fifteen 740 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: on a fairly regular basis so I can get enough 741 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: growth hormone. Seventeen hours of fasting is when we start 742 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: to see that the body actually detoxes itself. It's something 743 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: called atophagy. So if you know you've overdone it on 744 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: vacation or a holiday, or you're just feeling like you 745 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: need to detox, start to throw in some of these 746 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: seventeen hour fasts, and your body will detox itself for free. 747 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, detox has gotten really expensive, Like you can 748 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: get your body to do it itself. Twenty four hours 749 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: is what we call the gut reset fast, and it's 750 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: where your intelligent body starts to make intestinal stem cells. 751 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: So I use that fast with my patients who had 752 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: any kind of gut problems bloating, constipation, diarrhea, candida, which 753 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: is like a yeast infection in the body. I would 754 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: like throw in once a week these twenty four hour 755 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: fast to try to help them help their body, heal 756 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: their own gut. Thirty six hours are where all was 757 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: always my stubborn weight lost people. Once a quarter, I'd 758 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: throw a thirty six hour fast at them and you'd 759 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: watch them drop weight. Forty eight hour fast reset your 760 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: whole dopamine system. People who were depressed anxiety. Once a quarter, 761 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: we'd do a forty eight hour fast, and then seventy 762 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: two is where you reboot your whole immune system. Once 763 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: a year, twice a year is great. So that's the 764 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: best way I can answer that question. Is it's personal. 765 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: It's your mom might be losing weight and thriving in 766 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: her postmenopausal years at fifteen hours, whereas another woman in 767 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: her postmenopausal years may have really gained a lot of 768 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: weight through menopause and needs to go for a thirty 769 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: six hour fast. So I really wanted people to use 770 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: these like you would use a supplement or you would 771 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: use a workout. What are you trying to do with 772 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: your body that determines the length of the fast. 773 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: And everybody's body is different. 774 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: I feel like, based on your goals, if it's you know, 775 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: getting rid of stubborn fat, it's going to look different 776 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: for everybody. Yeah, I think my mom's sweet spot is 777 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: sixteen hour fast to just I'm good. 778 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 2: I'm horrible with numbers. 779 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm good at remembering random specific numbers and dates, and 780 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: sixteen I know it's her number. So when we break 781 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 3: the fast, I feel like this is where people go wrong. 782 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: Yep, when we break the fast, what are we eating? 783 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? So in Fast Like a Girl, I did a 784 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: whole chapter on breaking the first and then Eat like 785 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: a Girl as a cookbook to go with it, we 786 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: have recipes on breaking the fast. So the first principle 787 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: to know is that first meal matters because you just 788 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: did this whole reset to your system. Even if you 789 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: went fifteen hours, you went a significant period of time 790 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: where the body had to adapt to the lack of food. 791 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: It's waiting for those nutrients. It can't wait for them 792 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: to get into your system. So make sure that first 793 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: meal you have some kind of fiber, so a salad 794 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: or vegetables of some kind, because that feeds your microbes 795 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: and helps to build a healthy gut. You definitely want 796 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: thirty grams of protein because protein is what builds muscles. 797 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: So let's get at least thirty grams or more of protein. 798 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: You want some kind of healthy fat like olive oil, 799 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: because if you don't put a fat in there, it 800 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: could be what I call a boomerang where you start 801 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: to like open up your eating window and you're just like, 802 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna eat because this feels so good to 803 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: just eat. So if you put some fat in there, 804 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: it slows down that it kills hunger and slows down 805 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: the absorption of blood sugar, and then you know, then 806 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: you can add in your carbs. So you'll notice that 807 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: I put carbs at the end, and that like that's 808 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: where one of the places people go wrong is there, 809 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Like I just fasted fifteen hours. I'm just gonna have 810 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: my favorite meal. My favorite meal is a bull of pasta, 811 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: and then I have bolapasta and I'm sleepy and I 812 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: don't have any energy for the rest of the day. 813 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: So I really like like looking at that first meal 814 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: and going, what am I feeding my body to support 815 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: the fast I just did. 816 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 3: I also want people listening to not be afraid of carbs, 817 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 3: because I feel like, you know, and I think this 818 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: is a coming of age thing, and I know people 819 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: struggle with this for decades and generations, but I do 820 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 3: feel like it's for a lot of people. 821 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: It happens in your younger twenties. 822 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: Not to not to like stereotype it, but you know, 823 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: college and social pressures come with sometimes eating disorders. 824 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like. 825 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 3: And disorder that may be sometimes overlooked as like people 826 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 3: are women are afraid of carbs at a young age. 827 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 3: They really feel like carbs are like the enemy, you know. 828 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: And I remember there was a time in my twenties 829 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: where I would never eat carbs, like no rice, no 830 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 3: quin wa. I would hardly have sandwiches. I was like salad, 831 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 3: heavy on protein, getting a lot of calories in because 832 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 3: of course, I've been arounder my whole life. I've always 833 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: had to fuel my body in order to perform at 834 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 3: the level that I perform at, specifically to do this show. 835 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 2: Guys, we are eating. But I was afraid of carbs. 836 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about carbs. Because when I first started 837 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: teaching the ketogenic diet to my patients and the online world, 838 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: so many women got incredible weight loss results, and they 839 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: were so excited because all they weren't hungry and they 840 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: could drop weight. So they kept carbs out, and all 841 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you started after a year after year 842 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: of that, you started to see problems with that. So 843 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you that we can't get so 844 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: adverse to carbs that were doing more damage to our body, 845 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: because your body needs carbs. Like one of the things 846 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: that helps you make serotonin are carbohydrates, So make sure 847 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: you have enough carbohydrates so your microbiome can make serotonin, 848 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: which keeps you happy. But the problem is, it's like fat, 849 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: there're good carbs and there's bad carbs. So if you've 850 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: been in this carb restricted diet, you may revisit the 851 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: idea that what you want to restrict are the desserts, 852 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: the cakes, the cookies, the sweets, the ultra processed foods. 853 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: Those are the carbs you want to get rid of. 854 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: And the carbs you want to bring in are fruit. 855 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: Fruit's incredible. Berries are incredible, Bananas incredible with all that 856 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: potassium in there. You want to bring in potatoes in 857 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: age like a girl. I have a whole thing on 858 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: the miracle of sweet potatoes and tubers. You want to 859 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: bring in even some rice is great, brown rice, white rice, 860 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: believe it or not, with paired with right food can 861 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: be really good. So it's just the highly processed carbs we. 862 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: Want to stay off of what is a highly like 863 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 2: is rice a highly processed carb? 864 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: Well, white rice can be highly processed. But bread bread 865 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: is kind of the biggie. 866 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: But sour dough dough is good, right, I was gonna say, 867 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, but Taylor Swift is bringing back sourdough a 868 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: really bad way. 869 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, sour dough is great because it's fermented. So let's 870 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: let's break down. Processed means that they have taken many 871 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: steps from that original food and have manipulated it and 872 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: turned it into a new food. Potato chips are a 873 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: great example of that. A potato is super healthy for you. 874 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: A potato chip, they sliced it, they sprayed it with chemicals, 875 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: they put bad oils on it. Now that's a processed food, 876 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: meaning they processed it into something else. So it makes 877 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: sense and usually, like the best way to know is 878 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: when you walk into your grocery store. Everything pretty much 879 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: in the middle aisles that can stay on shelves for 880 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: a long time, those are processed foods. But if you 881 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: stay around the outside of the grocery store, you're gonna 882 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 1: get the fresh foods. 883 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 3: Do you mainly cook for yourself me personally or as 884 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 3: our family, like as your family. 885 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so interesting you say that we are a 886 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: family of foodies. And my son, who's twenty three, is 887 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: actually a professional chef, so lately when he shows up 888 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: or like, what are you making? My husband's also incredible 889 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: at cooking. So the same thing with our daughter. So 890 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: she's twenty six, she's out of the house now, but 891 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: every time the family's together we're cooking. 892 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 2: Who's a better cook? 893 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: You or your husband? Well, we kind of conquer and divide. Okay, 894 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: here's my superpower. I make the best salad on the planet. 895 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: I like, best salad, best salad, dressing, that is my 896 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: jam everything. And then he'll cook a steak and we 897 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: probably many nights it's a meat and a salad. That's 898 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: kind of our evening meal. 899 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 3: I love when a guy can cook. Oh, Jeremy, you 900 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 3: heard that. I love when a guy cook. 901 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean my son will talk with me 902 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: for hours about what he's learning in the kitchen, and 903 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what a catch you you are. 904 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 3: I literally was gonna say, I'm like whatever, a lucky lady, like, 905 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: it's so nice when a guy can cook. 906 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: You're really so nice and clean the kitchen. 907 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: Oh yes, clean's good too. We conquered divide in that way. 908 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm the one that cooks, and then 909 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 3: Jeremy is very good at cleaning. 910 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: But but what I was going to go back to 911 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: when you ask do I cook? Yes, I do. I 912 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: love to cook, But we mostly cook because we know 913 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: we can make the best meals in our house. We 914 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 1: can get the local food, we can get grass fed steaks, 915 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: and if I go out to a restaurant, now I've 916 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: got to be searching for those buzzwords. So we eat 917 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: at home a lot because we want the best quality food. 918 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like the benefit of cooking at home, 919 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 3: especially when you're health focused and want to put the 920 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 3: best things in your body, is you know what is 921 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 3: going into everything dish that you're basting. You know when 922 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 3: you're cheating a little bit, which is we can all 923 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 3: cheat yourself. 924 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 925 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 3: I interviewed Brian Johnson, who's a longevity expert, and he 926 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 3: doesn't have a single cheat mal. 927 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: Well because he's trying to reverse aging. 928 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, Okay, well. 929 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend that. Did you ever read that book 930 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: called Body for Life? Uh? Not? 931 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 2: By Mark Himen right now. 932 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: But anyways, Okay, so this guy, he was a fitness 933 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: trainer and this is back in like two thousands, and 934 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: he said he's going to give a million dollars to 935 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: the person who can lose the most weight in ninety days. 936 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: And he created a program, and the program basically had 937 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: you working out on in a fasted state, because he 938 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: was like, if you're in a fastest state, I still 939 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: agree with this that if you want to lose weight, 940 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: once you go to work out, your body will get 941 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: the message that it needs more glucose to be able 942 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: to perform that workout, So it start burning fat much 943 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: quicker because it needs glucose, and it store glucose and fat. 944 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: If I have a protein drink and then I go 945 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: work out, I'm now in a place where I'm given 946 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: my body glucose, so it just uses that it doesn't 947 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: burn fat, so you want to almost go into a 948 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: deprivation state and work out. So he had that. Then 949 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: the second thing that he had is one day a 950 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: week you could eat whatever you wanted, but on the 951 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: other days he had pretty much a ketogenic diet, and 952 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: the amount of weight that people lost it was insane. 953 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: Based off of those two principles. Work out fasted and 954 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: release your discipline one day a week, but the rest 955 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: of the time you go back into discipline. And his 956 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: theory was that when you could just off gas and 957 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, if it's Friday and you know your cheap 958 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: day is Sunday, you're like, I just I'm not gonna 959 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm just going to get to Sunday and then I 960 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: can eat whatever I want. So I think Brian Johnson 961 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: is doing stuff that's really intriguing to see what the 962 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: limits of the human body are and what we can 963 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 1: do to reverse aging. But I don't think most people 964 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: are going to be able to stay that discipline for 965 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: decade after decade, and some days you just need a 966 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: cheap day. 967 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: And not only that, but most people can't afford it. 968 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: Right. 969 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 3: I went into his house and I saw the tech 970 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 3: setup of stuff that he has, and I mean, I 971 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 3: know most people can't go into his house and see 972 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 3: kind of the setup. If you want, you can go 973 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 3: watch my running interview show video with him where we 974 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 3: did a very dark tour of the space because the 975 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: lights go off at when the sun sets in his 976 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: house and it's all red light. Wow. 977 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: But you could also look. 978 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 3: At Paris Hilton's Longevity Center. I think she's done videos 979 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 3: on it or in it in her in her house. 980 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I've seen that. Don't quote me on it, 981 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 3: but they're both very into longevity. 982 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: But it's expensive. 983 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 3: I mean, to get a red light panel that your 984 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 3: entire body can stand in, Like, that's just it's not really, 985 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 3: you know. 986 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: I think this is I'm so happy you bring this 987 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: up because I was super involved in the biohacking movement 988 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: for a long time, and I would go to these 989 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: conferences and I would speak, and then you go out 990 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: into the vendor hall and I'd be speaking on fasting 991 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: and about how the body heals itself, and then people 992 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: get all excited about that, and then all of a 993 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: sudden they go out into the vendor hall and see 994 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: a piece of equipment that could help them, you know, 995 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: with longevity. That's ten thousand dollars. And I'm like, but 996 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: a seventy two hour fast gets rid of those cells 997 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: that are aging you. If you understand the principle of 998 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: autophagy and how you can tap into that through exercise 999 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: and through sleep and through fasting, you don't need to 1000 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: buy an utophagy pill. I fear that we got so 1001 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: obsessed with longevity that we lost the key principles that 1002 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: our body knows to do to slow the aging process down. 1003 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 3: I also think we live in an era of immediate 1004 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 3: gratification and easy fixes, and like that kind of leads 1005 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 3: me to obviously for machines, right, like the hyperbolic chamber, 1006 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Jeremy sat in Brian Johnson's I Am 1007 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 3: So Classio foot Bok. 1008 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 2: I could not go in there. 1009 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 3: But I also think about ozempic, and so Ozempic's an 1010 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 3: easy fix. And when you think about fasting and maybe 1011 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 3: even like you know fasting workouts, like, oh, that really 1012 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 3: is what ozempic is doing, right, it's creating, it's making 1013 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 3: up fast. 1014 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so funny who say this, because when ozempic 1015 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: first came out, I mean fast, like a girl was 1016 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: in her trajectory, Like we sold over one point three 1017 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: million copies of that book, like it just went crazy. 1018 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: And then I was watching all these people go like 1019 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: the amount of weight I've seen people drop using fasting, 1020 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: it's insane, hundreds and hundreds of pounds, like big amount 1021 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 1: of weight. And so then Ozemba came around and I 1022 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: kept asking everybody, what do you notice, And they're like, 1023 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: I'm not hungry. I was like, okay, but when you 1024 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: fast and you start to fastiguly, it's what I call 1025 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: building a fasting lifestyle. You're not hungry when you fast. 1026 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 1: I forget to eat all the time because I'm not hungry. 1027 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 1: So we wanted the immediate gratification. Give me the pill, 1028 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: as opposed to train my body to be able to 1029 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: learn how to fast and kill hunger. We'd rather take 1030 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: an injection. It's to me a little bit like the marathon. 1031 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: Like there's so many things you learn running a marathon 1032 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: about yourself and training for it. But if somebody came 1033 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: and gave you a pill that said you can get 1034 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: all those things and not have to go through the 1035 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: pain of running a marathon, there's so many lessons we 1036 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: would miss out. 1037 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: On, right, I mean absolutely so. 1038 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 3: A marathon is less about what it's doing for your 1039 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 3: body physically, which is, by the way, it's not doing 1040 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 3: a lot of great things for your body physically, and 1041 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 3: it's more about what you get out of it from 1042 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 3: a mental toughness standpoint and from like a discipline standpoint. 1043 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 3: Because the marathon the race is half the battle. It's 1044 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 3: the training that really counts. 1045 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: It's what you learn. This is it's what you learn 1046 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: about in the process of training and running for the 1047 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: marathon that gives you that long term health and is 1048 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: so important for longevity. And we have traded that in 1049 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: for the quick fix with Ozempek. The thing that drives 1050 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: me crazy about it and there's a lot of upside. 1051 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: So if you're on it, I understand it, but you 1052 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: want to pair a fasting lifestyle with it so you 1053 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: can get off of it. But what I've seen in 1054 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: my community is that if a woman loses weight with 1055 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: the fasting lifestyle, she walks around like she's a badass. 1056 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, I learned how to all these different 1057 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: level fests, I learned how to eat for my cycle. 1058 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: I feel so proud of myself. And there's like this 1059 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: confidence that comes with it. When a woman loses weight 1060 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: because she gave herself an injection every day, she doesn't 1061 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: get the same confidence. Doesn't mean she's not happy, but 1062 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't give her the same pride in her body 1063 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: as it would have if she had done the hard 1064 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: work to lose weight. 1065 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 2: It almost feels fake, feels fake. 1066 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: And if you have you ever gone up to somebody 1067 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: who's lost weight with ozempic and you're like, hey, you 1068 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: look great, and they do, They're like thank you, and 1069 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: they don't say anything because they're embarrassed. They don't want 1070 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: to tell you that they like took the shortcut way. 1071 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: Not everybody's like that, but I've just seen it too much. 1072 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 3: I think the thing with ozempic is like it can 1073 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 3: be an incredible drug paired with the right lifestyle changes, 1074 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 3: and it's not a drug you want to be on forever. 1075 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 3: And I feel like I've seen you talk about this before, 1076 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 3: but there's a stat with ozempic where after two years 1077 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 3: people are off of it, right. 1078 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: I just did. I just did a video on this 1079 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,399 Speaker 1: this week for my YouTube. It was a meta analysis 1080 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five just came out that said the average 1081 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: when people get off ozempic that well, and there was 1082 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 1: it was ozempic and wigovy, those two specifically that when 1083 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: they got off, it took anywhere from a year to 1084 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: two years and they were right back where they started, 1085 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: and in many cases they actually gained more weight back. 1086 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: So I think we have to realize it's not fixing 1087 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 1: your metabolic system. You did not fix anything. You used 1088 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: a patch that gave you result, and it gave you 1089 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of momentum, which is amazing. But now 1090 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: let's put in the lifestyle so you can get off 1091 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, and you can actually put the lifestyle 1092 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: will fix the metabolic problem. Then you get off of it, 1093 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: and then you won't boomerang, you won't have that extra 1094 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: weight gain, because that's the worst thing. 1095 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 3: It's like when you, you know, spend all that money 1096 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 3: which ozempic. These these medications cost a lot, so much 1097 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 3: money oftentimes unless you have PCOS or you know, are obese, 1098 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 3: or I'm sure there's other health implications. Those are just 1099 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 3: the most common ones I hear about, Like insurance is 1100 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 3: not covering eurozempic shot. That's right, you know, and it's 1101 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: a fortune, So like why of fortune and not make 1102 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 3: those lifestyle changes so that when you decide to go 1103 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 3: off this medication, you get to hold onto those results 1104 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 3: and feel so proud of like I did this for myself. 1105 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm so happy that it worked. I look amazing, I 1106 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 3: feel the best. 1107 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 2: I ever had. 1108 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: And I think you bring up such an important point, 1109 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 1: which is the fasting lifestyle, Like I map it out 1110 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: for women in fast like a girl. This is what 1111 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: it looks like. Very your fast, very your foods. Know 1112 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: what your cycle is and know why what you want 1113 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: your fasting length to be, and you get to play 1114 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,280 Speaker 1: with that. As you are going along your monthly cycle. 1115 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 1: You will drop weight. I've watched so many people drop weight. 1116 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: So and it will kill your hunger when you switch 1117 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: over into this fat burning state and you make a 1118 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: key tone. Keytones go up into the brain and they 1119 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: turn off the hunger hormone. So and when you fast. 1120 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: The other interesting thing about fasting is it repairs your microbiome. 1121 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: And do you know that it's your micro these microbes 1122 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: in our that make the g LP one hormone. So 1123 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: you can actually repair your gut make your own g 1124 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: l P one hormone through the effort of building a 1125 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: fasting lifestyle. 1126 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: What supplements do you swear by. 1127 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: Well, magnesium's got to be my favorite because I'm postmoonopuzzle. 1128 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: So let me, let me, let me Okay, I'll tell 1129 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,959 Speaker 1: you here's my here's my supplement kind of supplement plan 1130 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 1: right now. I have definitely moved away from the pills 1131 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: and moved over to ivs, so I get a regular 1132 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: IV once a month. It's packed with magnesium and zinc 1133 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: because those are the two's two nutrients you need the 1134 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: most for hormones. Every ninety days, I monitor my vitamin 1135 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: D levels and if they're low, I'll get a vitamin 1136 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: D shot weekly to start to bring them up. So 1137 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: I always want to make sure I have a good 1138 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: baseline of just my typical nutrients that you need. Then 1139 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 1: I like things like methylene blue. Did Brian talk to 1140 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: you about nonlu so? Methylene blue is this really cool 1141 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: nutrient that goes in and it fires up the mitochondria 1142 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: and it starts to make the mitochondria make more ATP. 1143 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: ATP is the unit of energy that you get when 1144 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: you to to energy to move and to do your 1145 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: what you're what you want to do in a day. 1146 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 1: When you take methylene blue, it supercharges these mitochondria and 1147 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: your brain feels brighter, your mind feels good. Like it's 1148 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: just a beautiful little tool for powering up mitochondria in 1149 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: your whole body. But we have so many in our brain. 1150 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: So I'll go get a methylene drip like once a 1151 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: month as well. Then my new thing. And I don't 1152 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: know if you brought anybody on to talk about this 1153 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: that I love and is the most exciting thing. We 1154 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: should all be excited, like focusing on this as peptides. 1155 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: Have you experienced Brian talk about peptides that has There 1156 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: is nothing that I have seen work as well as 1157 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 1: peptides and peptides are an amino acid sequence that initiates 1158 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,919 Speaker 1: a biological process, so collagen. There is a peptide called 1159 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: GHK CEO. They all have weird names. And when you 1160 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 1: take this peptide, you are and it they're done in injections. 1161 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: You are actually getting your body to make its own collagen. 1162 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: So it's like a catalyst to get your body to 1163 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: do the thing. Sreba license amazing peptide for menopausal women 1164 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: because when you put that amino acid sequence into your body, 1165 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: it initiates the your brain to make bdn F and 1166 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: bdn F is a brain fertileer like for the brain, 1167 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: it gives you more neuronal power. You have more you 1168 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: can use more of your brain when you've got b DNF, 1169 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and this peptide initiates that. Probably the most common peptide 1170 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: is BPC one five seven and it helps recovery. So 1171 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: for athletes. When you do BPC one five seven, people 1172 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: are seeing that injuries and even hard workouts, they're recovering 1173 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: from them much quicker. So most of them are injectables. 1174 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: You have to figure out where to go get them. 1175 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 2: I was going to ask, why am I getting these? 1176 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1177 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 3: I feel like that's the hardest thing. So where do 1178 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 3: you get them from? 1179 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, up by me in Santa Cruz. I have 1180 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 1: a clinic, a IV clinic that I can get them there. 1181 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 1: That same I V clinic is in Malibu. It's called 1182 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: they Have They're a franchise. It's called be Well. You 1183 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: can go check them out. A lot of a lot 1184 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: of alternative doctors, naturopaths, chiropractors, integrative functional health specialists are 1185 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: doing peptides. Uh. Next Health which is right around the corner. 1186 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Have you been in Next Health now? 1187 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean I get nervous doing anything right now with pregnancy. 1188 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I can't. 1189 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Right but after I'm definitely gonna. And I did see. 1190 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 3: I saw somebody post on their story yesterday that they 1191 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 3: were they had recently like a cosmetic surgery thing done 1192 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 3: and they're bruising like crazy. And she posted that she 1193 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 3: had a doctor come over and was giving her all 1194 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 3: these like different treatments to help with the swelling and. 1195 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 2: All that, and I was like, who is this? 1196 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 3: And anyways, I looked into it and I was like, Okay, 1197 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 3: she's doing like the vitamin D shots and stuff like that. 1198 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, injectables like insulin needles have become quite popular and yeah, 1199 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: and everybody's I mean, like I even in my hotel 1200 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: room right now, I brought some peptides and they're sitting 1201 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: because they have to be refrigerated, and I put them 1202 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: into the mini fridge and I thought, if they come 1203 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: clean the room, I wonder if they're gonna be like, 1204 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 1: what is this woman shooting up in here? So it's 1205 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: the injectability of it is a little daunting, but yeah, 1206 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: it's But honestly, if you had if you ask me 1207 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: where supplements are going, we are moving towards peptides peptides. 1208 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: Once I started to understand peptides, once I started to know, okay, 1209 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: here are the main things I need for hormones, I 1210 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: could really dial in what was going to actually make 1211 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: me feel better. Too many people take supplements because they 1212 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: saw something on Instagram that thought they should do it, 1213 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: or they you know, a friend told them to do it, 1214 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: but they don't really under it. They're not getting the 1215 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: results of it. 1216 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 3: It's good for people to know, and I feel like, 1217 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 3: you know, oftentimes people can feel like this information is 1218 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 3: like secretive and only certain people know about it. So 1219 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 3: I just love hearing you talk about it and what 1220 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 3: is working and what people are doing that like is 1221 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 3: the future of you know, being in your best health. 1222 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 3: I have two topics I want to go into. Which 1223 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 3: one would you rather go into first? And you can 1224 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: tell me if you don't know enough about like the 1225 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 3: pregnancy stuff to talk about it, Like. 1226 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I got it. I have a topic choice thing. 1227 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 2: We get two topics. I'm like, pick your card, any card. 1228 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 3: So we can either talk about runners specifically, because I 1229 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 3: feel like there's a lot of things that like get 1230 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 3: wrong and are maybe doing wrong when it comes to 1231 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 3: working out, because runners, guys, we love to run. 1232 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah? 1233 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Or can we talk about pregnancy and maybe working on 1234 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 3: and eating while pregnant. 1235 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're both great topics. Okay, can we do 1236 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: them both? 1237 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1238 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with running. 1239 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 1240 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 1: I think what runners get wrong is that they don't 1241 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 1: cross train enough that's the first thing. The second thing 1242 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: is positioning running. What was that guy, I forget his name, 1243 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: but he wrote a book called Born to Run, and 1244 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 1: it was about how we need to actually position our 1245 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: body so that it's easier on our joints. Like you're 1246 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: not supposed to be completely upright, you're actually supposed to 1247 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: be just angled your torso angled about ten degrees forward 1248 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: because it will, especially for women, will start to put 1249 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: more weight over your hips and over your entire leg 1250 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: so that you don't have uneven weight distribution. I think 1251 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. Then, of course we have to look 1252 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: at the distance of running, and I think the biggest 1253 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: thing with runners is that you're going to have to 1254 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: vary the sprinting with the endurance so that you're building 1255 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: both the short you know, the short twitch or the 1256 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: fast twitched muscle fibers and the slower twitched muscle fibers. 1257 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: So varying the type of running you're doing will have 1258 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: a really big impact. I think what happens is and 1259 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: I was I fell prey to this a lot where 1260 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: running became my drug of choice, Like literally anything went wrong, 1261 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: I put my running shoes on out I went and 1262 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I never varied the length. I never varied the speed. 1263 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: I just went at the same pace and that's how 1264 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: I got injured. So if you have that same sort 1265 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: of addiction to running, just make sure you're varying the 1266 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: length and the speed. Something really interesting that we don't 1267 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: think about. And this is getting really technical, so stop 1268 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: me if it gets confusing. Your muscles have an opposing 1269 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 1: muscle that works with it in like a team, So 1270 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: the quads and the hamstrings work together. If you are 1271 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: always to like engaging the quads but not engaging the hamstring, 1272 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 1: you're going to end up with muscles that are out 1273 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: of balance. So when we're running a lot of times 1274 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: we overstretch our hamstrings and we strengthen our quads, especially 1275 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: if you're like a toe runner, so and that imbalance 1276 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 1: now has you more prone to injury. So one of 1277 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: the greatest things runners can do are like hamstring exercises 1278 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,479 Speaker 1: to keep strengthening that hamstring so that you don't over 1279 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: develop the quads. But the biggest challenge with running, especially 1280 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 1: for women, especially as we age, as the injuries. So 1281 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: you have to be really intentional. You need to vary it. 1282 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: You need to balance the muscles and then work on 1283 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 1: your posture so that if you're not completely upright, you're 1284 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: just a little bit like five to ten degrees, so 1285 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: that the weight goes evenly over your over your lower 1286 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: half of your body. Yeah. 1287 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 3: And I feel like when it comes to running, especially 1288 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 3: as we get older. And I've seen this with my 1289 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 3: mother in law who's a marathon her and she fell 1290 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 3: at the New York City Marathon and she broke her 1291 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 3: wrist and she had to learn that she's running too 1292 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 3: much without keeping her diet the way it needs to 1293 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,919 Speaker 3: be kept up, you know, at sixty six years old, 1294 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 3: you know, and uh, it's she wasn't getting enough. 1295 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm so bad. What is melcalv She. 1296 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 3: Isn't getting She's not gonna get brain yes, mom, brain. 1297 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 3: Oh god, guys, pregnancy brain is real, except I'm doing 1298 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing well this interview. 1299 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: The real Yeah, it's a real thing. Oh it's such 1300 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: a real thing. 1301 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 2: God. 1302 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. You put a pregnancy brain with a with a 1303 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: post metapausal brain and like it's amazing, we're doing this. 1304 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 2: Really it's a kind of yeah. 1305 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's there's there's definitely the hormones. This was 1306 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: the whole function of age, Like a girl. The whole 1307 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: purpose was for me to show that the brain is 1308 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 1: rewiring itself for the better. But in that process, you're 1309 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: losing old and getting new ones. Mommy brains the same 1310 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 1: thing you lose those neurons. It told you where your 1311 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: keys were and what your tax task list. 1312 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 2: Was, Like, what is milk up? God? No, but it's 1313 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 2: so real. 1314 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 3: I love by the way that you said that menopause 1315 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 3: is all about reframing, you know, and it can become 1316 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 3: like a superpower if we just understand how it works. 1317 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 3: And it is so true. It's like I've felt this 1318 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 3: in throughout my whole life too. It's like there's different 1319 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 3: stages of your life and like you just have to 1320 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 3: give into those stages. And it's like when it comes 1321 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,919 Speaker 3: to working out or eating, like, just because it worked 1322 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 3: for you five years ago at twenty years old, twenty 1323 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 3: five years old, thirty doesn't mean it's gonna work for 1324 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: you at thirty five, forty. You know. So we have 1325 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 3: to constantly evolve the way our bodies are evolving. But yeah, runners, man, 1326 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 3: you got to get the right nutrients in. 1327 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: You got to get the nutrients in. You got to 1328 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 1: vary it, you gotta stretch, You've got to you know everything. 1329 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: The little things we talked about are like, will make 1330 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: it you you know, injury proof. 1331 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 2: And don't overtrain. I used to run six miles a day, 1332 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 2: and I definitely got injured doing that. 1333 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,040 Speaker 1: So I came up with a couple of things in 1334 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: my forties, like phrases to help my competitive brain know 1335 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: that it's okay to not just full on run. The 1336 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 1: first one is something I called sprunning. I actually had 1337 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: a friend, I'm like, can we go spreading today, which 1338 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: basically meant we're going to run shorter, but we're going 1339 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 1: to do sprints in the run. So we did a 1340 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty minute run with ninety second sprints and thirty seconds off. 1341 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: That was what the research was. Then when I got 1342 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 1: into menopause and I injured myself, I mean, I'm only 1343 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 1: sharing this from my own experience. One day, I was like, 1344 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 1: I feel like if I run today, my hips are 1345 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 1: going to feel so bad after this, and so I 1346 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 1: was really like thinking about okay, but I need to 1347 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: still move, and I came up with a phrase like 1348 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,560 Speaker 1: would I be okay if I just did a forward 1349 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 1: movement workout? Just move your body forward, because when you 1350 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 1: move your body forward, you bring cortisol down. And when 1351 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 1: you bring cortisol down, like we've been talking, all the 1352 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 1: other hormones will balance. But my competitive brain wasn't looking 1353 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: at walking or even brisk walking as a workout, and 1354 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,839 Speaker 1: so I was like, but it's it's just forward movement 1355 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,719 Speaker 1: at a different pace. 1356 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, forward is a pace. 1357 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, theuring out forward is a pace. So again, if 1358 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 1: we go like, if you start to look at everything 1359 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about as women, so many times if we 1360 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: don't understand our bodies, we're doing. We know how to 1361 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: do hard, really well. We can push on through, but 1362 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 1: that's not always in our best interest, which is hard 1363 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: for us to understand. 1364 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 3: So we have talked about so much, but as it 1365 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,799 Speaker 3: relates to women, we've talked about menopause. We've talked about 1366 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 3: working out and syncing it with your cycle. We've talked 1367 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 3: about fasting and making sure you're eating right as it 1368 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,759 Speaker 3: relates to your hormones and what's going on in your cycles. 1369 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 3: But we haven't talked about pregnancy, guys, the sweet sweet 1370 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 3: nine months of being pregnant. So just quickly, let's kind 1371 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 3: of touch on it. You know, I think there's a 1372 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 3: big movement now for women as a pregnant woman that 1373 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 3: a lot of people want to stay as fit as 1374 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 3: they can while pregnant, and that looks different. That doesn't 1375 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,120 Speaker 3: mean you're trying to lose weight. You're in fact, definitely, 1376 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,799 Speaker 3: definitely gaining weight. There's no avoiding that when you're pregnant. 1377 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,600 Speaker 3: But you know, there's this new kind of mentality of like, 1378 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,600 Speaker 3: we're no longer eating for two, which used to be 1379 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 3: what doctors would. 1380 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Tell you about. 1381 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, ye, you know, so like what should pregnant women 1382 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 3: be doing as it relates to what they're eating and 1383 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 3: how they're moving their body maybe on a month to 1384 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 3: month basically. 1385 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Well, so the first thing is protein. Hopefully somebody gave 1386 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,919 Speaker 1: you the protein conversation. We definitely need to increase protein. 1387 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: So this again ties into everything we've been talking about. 1388 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 1: Protein breaks down into amino acids. Amino Acids sequence themselves 1389 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 1: to create biological processes like we're talking about with peptides. 1390 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: So please please please tons of protein. That would be 1391 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: the first thing. The second thing, and this is something 1392 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,799 Speaker 1: that doesn't get enough airtime and really needs to which 1393 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: is you are going to pass your microbiome on to 1394 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 1: your child. So eating things like sour kraut, probiotic rich yogurts, 1395 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 1: sour dough, fermented foods is probably the best thing you 1396 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: can do when you're pregnant because now you're actually bringing 1397 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 1: in a lot of different types of healthy bacteria, and 1398 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: those bacteria are actually going to come through your breast 1399 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: milk and even through your skin when you when your 1400 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: baby's born. So like we used to always teach in 1401 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: my clinic to new parents to hold your baby's skin 1402 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: to skin contact because we have microbes on our skin 1403 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 1: and we're in your baby the first three years of 1404 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: your baby's life. They they the digestive system is still forming, 1405 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,759 Speaker 1: so this whole microbial system can be really helped helped 1406 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 1: by the fermented foods. Skin contact is great, and you know, 1407 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 1: making sure you're not lathering your baby or you and 1408 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,679 Speaker 1: a bunch of antibacterial stuff. 1409 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do have I do feel like being pregnant. 1410 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 3: I've been pregnant now for a little under five months, 1411 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 3: but just about it that five months cusp hi JP, Okay, 1412 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 3: this is my first child. My cat John Pierano has 1413 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 3: entered the set. But we're gonna stay away from Indy. 1414 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I'll look at you from a fire beautiful 1415 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: yeah's eyes. 1416 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 3: I do feel like I have never been so health 1417 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 3: conscious in my life, like when it comes to eating 1418 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 3: and because I feel like this newfound like it's so 1419 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 3: important to be fueling my body the right way and 1420 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 3: eating healthy foods because everything that I eat goes right 1421 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 3: to the baby, that's right. 1422 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: So the other thing we used to say in my 1423 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,839 Speaker 1: clinic all the time is pregnancy is the ultimate detox. 1424 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,040 Speaker 1: So something for women that are thinking about getting pregnant 1425 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 1: is whatever toxic load you have in your body is 1426 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: going to actually go into your child and so and 1427 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: your baby is growing within your body, and if it 1428 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 1: has a high toxic load, then you're going to end 1429 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: up with that being passed on. So before you get pregnant, 1430 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: looking at everything from like your makeups to your lotions, 1431 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: to the plastics to heavy metals, like everything you can 1432 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 1: do to minimize your toxic environment is really helpful. But 1433 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 1: even while you are pregnant, like making sure that you're 1434 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: not exposing yourself to a lot of endocrine disruptors, that 1435 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:45,679 Speaker 1: you're not exposing yourself to a lot of plastics will 1436 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 1: make a really big difference for your child. 1437 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they even say, like I remember when 1438 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 3: I went to my first appointment with my gynecologist, she 1439 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 3: was like, are you wearing sunscreen? And it's like I 1440 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 3: never would have thought that sunscreen was so important with pregnancy, 1441 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 3: but it actually is. 1442 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting. 1443 01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have to look into why this. 1444 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 3: Makes it's natural sunscreen exactly. Make sure it's a toxic stuff. 1445 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, make sure it's a good sunscreen. For our 1446 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 3: male listeners, you know, listening to you today, what do 1447 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 3: you want them to take away from our conversation that 1448 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 3: they can apply to their female partner. 1449 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it's so good because so many couples, heterosexual couples 1450 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 1: end up trying to work out the same, eat the same, 1451 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: and that's we want to avoid that. So the first 1452 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 1: thing men need to know is that your partner needs 1453 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: to train at a different pace at different times of 1454 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 1: the month than you, So be sensitive to that. This 1455 01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: is not a moment where you're like, come on, push 1456 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 1: on through. You want to know where she is in 1457 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: her cycle, so you know when to support her to 1458 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 1: push on through and when to tell her, hey, you can, 1459 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, chill out today. It's your week before your 1460 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: parent So I think knowing a woman's menstrual cycle is 1461 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,679 Speaker 1: really important for men, and what comes with the ebbs 1462 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,280 Speaker 1: and flows of that. Second thing that I saw so 1463 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 1: much in my practice was that women go on a diet, 1464 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: women go to do some nutritionally and they don't get 1465 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: as quick of a result as men do, and so 1466 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 1: then they get frustrated. So I think the more we 1467 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 1: can understand that the male and female female body respond 1468 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,679 Speaker 1: differently to lifestyle, it can really help take the shame 1469 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,160 Speaker 1: away from women I sat with when I first started 1470 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,600 Speaker 1: teaching fasting. I sat with so many couples where the 1471 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 1: wife was so defeated because she did a fast and 1472 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 1: only lost a pound and her husband lost twenty and 1473 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: she thought it was her fault. So knowing that we're 1474 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: different and we need different tools is really important. 1475 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I even liked the examples that you had 1476 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 3: brought in of coaches, male coaches coaching females. You know, 1477 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 3: it's important for men to understand the female body, especially 1478 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 3: when you're interacting with women, whether it be your sister, 1479 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 3: your mom, the girls that you're coaching, or your wife. 1480 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, I don't know why it took us 1481 01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: till this moment in history to have a conversation that 1482 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the female body and the male body should be doing 1483 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: lifestyle different like that. It's been a no well known 1484 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:13,680 Speaker 1: fact for many years that we are have different makeup hormonally, 1485 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: but we've never dove in to understand what that means 1486 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 1: in conjunction with lifestyle. 1487 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 3: You know, better late than ever, I do have to say, 1488 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 3: because when I was fourteen and fifteen years old, two 1489 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 3: back to back years, same knee, I tore my ACL twice. Wow, 1490 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 3: in a period of twelve months. Yeah, I tore my aclmclmniscus. 1491 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 3: And each time I tore it, guess what I was 1492 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 3: on my period? 1493 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly. So this is why it's like with 1494 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 1: the fasting cycle. I literally had this big chart up 1495 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: in my office trying to figure out, okay, day one 1496 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 1: to day ten, what hormones are here, what nutrients do 1497 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: we need? 1498 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:47,840 Speaker 2: What? 1499 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: And I just tried to hack it as best I could. 1500 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 1: But then I could, you know, fitness, It was fast 1501 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,680 Speaker 1: like a girl. It wasn't fitness like a girl. So 1502 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that I kept it just 1503 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 1: in the lane of food and fasting. But so somebody 1504 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: out there needs to take it and do the fitness version. 1505 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 2: Do you think society sees that as a controversial topic. 1506 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of inconvenient if you think about it, 1507 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Like for the coaches, it's inconvenient. For even the women, 1508 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: it's inconvenient. Although once we understand when to eat and 1509 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 1: what to eat and how to work out to our cycle, 1510 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 1: it actually becomes quite effortless. So I think the reason, 1511 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,640 Speaker 1: if anything, that society would push against all of the 1512 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 1: lifestyle cycling for women is that it's hard to understand, 1513 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,640 Speaker 1: and we like absolutes in this culture, like tell me 1514 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: to do that or not, that we don't want to 1515 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,480 Speaker 1: have to think more critically for ourselves. So if it's controversial, 1516 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 1: it's because there's a learning curve. 1517 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't want to do the work. 1518 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,720 Speaker 1: They don't want to do the work. Yeah, But once 1519 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 1: you learn how to like do all of this to 1520 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: your cycle, it's literally effortless. Like even me at postmenopausal years, 1521 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: like I have an intuitive sense because I've done this 1522 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 1: for so long, like I should fast today, No, I 1523 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: should eat yesterday. I fasted all day. This morning I 1524 01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, I need to eat breakfast. 1525 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 1: Like I just flow with it because I know that 1526 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: my body's going through different rhythms. 1527 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 3: The power of habit is so real, and I think 1528 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 3: sometimes things can feel daunting at the start, but once 1529 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,799 Speaker 3: you get the hang of them, they get so much easier. 1530 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 1: It's so much easier, and learning anything is hard. I 1531 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 1: just started surfing this year at fifty six years old. 1532 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I just have been surfing for like six months, and 1533 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,680 Speaker 1: the first couple times I went out, it is a 1534 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 1: hard sport. You got to catch the wave, you got 1535 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 1: to understand the culture that you got to get up. 1536 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 1: But I kept at it, and it was such a 1537 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 1: great example of if you keep at something, there's a click, 1538 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: there's a moment that all of a sudden you're like 1539 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: intuitively know how to do it. And now I'm hitting 1540 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: that moment. So the same thing with learning how to 1541 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: fast and eat and what to eat and when to 1542 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 1: exercise and how to listen to your body's clues is 1543 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 1: really a fun adventure if you get excited and curious 1544 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 1: about it, and eventually it'll become so effortless. I just 1545 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,679 Speaker 1: I've seen it happen to so many women. 1546 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 3: You're a best selling author and leading voice in women's health, 1547 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,599 Speaker 3: and you've spent years studying why so much advice fails women. 1548 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 3: What's the biggest thing people still get wrong about women's bodies? 1549 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to tell you two things. One 1550 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 1: is that we' arrhythmic, so we should not be doing 1551 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 1: the same lifestyle tools over and over and over again. 1552 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: We need to know how to ebb and flow with 1553 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: our favorite lifestyle tools. Second thing, and this one is 1554 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 1: one I thought, God, I got to write a whole 1555 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: book on this, is that what happens to a woman 1556 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: is her body reacts to every environment she puts herself in. 1557 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,840 Speaker 1: So if she puts herself in a stressful environment over 1558 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,560 Speaker 1: and over and over again, her hormones are going to 1559 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: go into a stressed state. If she puts herself in 1560 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 1: a loving and nurturing environment over and over again, her 1561 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 1: hormones are going to respond by giving her the a 1562 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 1: real increase in beautiful hormones. So we have to It's 1563 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: almost like we're like these little sentient beans that like 1564 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 1: go into a room and we're like adapting to everything 1565 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,160 Speaker 1: going on in the room. We are very, very tuned in. 1566 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,679 Speaker 1: So the ignoring our subtle clues is what's harming our health. 1567 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 3: Okay, well, we talked about so much. I feel like 1568 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,719 Speaker 3: you could literally talk our ears off. But we're almost 1569 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 3: at twelve pm. We've got, you know, two minutes left. 1570 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 3: So what do you have coming up that you're excited about? 1571 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1572 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, So I'll tell you something. I'm at 1573 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: a really interesting point in my career because I closed 1574 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 1: my practice when Fascaa Girl came out, and then I 1575 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 1: wrote three books in three years, which I do not 1576 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: recommend anybody. 1577 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 2: Do most people it takes like two years to write 1578 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 2: one book. 1579 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wrote the trilogy Fast Like a Girl, 1580 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 1: Eat a Girl, Age Like a Girl. So I'm not 1581 01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: in a book contract right now, and so I'm looking 1582 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,400 Speaker 1: to repace my life, and I'm doubling down on YouTube, 1583 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 1: so I'm doing a lot. We're getting a lot of 1584 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 1: people just wanting to know more about questions like you're 1585 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: asking right now, wanting more know about food and exercise 1586 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,519 Speaker 1: and fasting how it relates to a female body. So 1587 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 1: I've gone from doing four new videos a week to seven, 1588 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 1: so I go live every week over there. So I'm 1589 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,559 Speaker 1: doubling down on that. And then I I was telling 1590 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 1: you earlier, I'm really excited about Substack and this is, 1591 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, off the topic of fitness and health. But 1592 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: as somebody who's been a content creator for over a decade, 1593 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, most people don't realize you have to create 1594 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: content that the algorithm wants rewards you for. And in 1595 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: YouTube world, anything related to weight loss the algorithm or 1596 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 1: fasting or atopogy, the algorithm loves that. But if I 1597 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 1: do a mindset video, it's like, we don't know what 1598 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about. It won't show it to anybody. So 1599 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 1: I've moved to do some really cool topics over on substack. 1600 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing writings, I'm doing videos and just talking about 1601 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 1: new ideas over there, trying to help people. I really 1602 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 1: want to help people critically think through health. I feel 1603 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: a little sad right now the way in which we 1604 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: take health information in is so bite size, and we 1605 01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 1: don't know how to integrate that into a holistic health view. 1606 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,599 Speaker 1: And so I've been really encouraging my following to listen 1607 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 1: to longer podcasts, to listen to longer YouTube videos, to 1608 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 1: read books, and try to get out of this desire 1609 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,640 Speaker 1: to just see a ninety second reel and go oh, 1610 01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 1: I got to do that, Like ninety second reel should 1611 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,799 Speaker 1: be entertainment, not prescriptions for your health. So on substack, 1612 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm having conversations like that. 1613 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 2: That's great. 1614 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1615 01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 2: Also you'll get a good pulse on what people want 1616 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:54,879 Speaker 2: to know what you're about. 1617 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like rite because on YouTube, I can tell you 1618 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,360 Speaker 1: what the algorithm wants me to talk about, but I 1619 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 1: want to know what people want me to talk about. 1620 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,480 Speaker 1: So and this is why I'm so excited about substack, 1621 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,080 Speaker 1: because I'm like, we get to interact with our with 1622 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: our following in such a different way. And I think 1623 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: if you're not like a podcaster or an influencer of 1624 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 1: some kind, you don't understand what we have to go 1625 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 1: through to make it entertaining, to make the algorithm like it. 1626 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,280 Speaker 1: It's not as pure as like what we're doing now 1627 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 1: or what I did in my office where I was 1628 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:32,000 Speaker 1: able to give much deeper advice. That's what I want 1629 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: to do on substack. I love it. 1630 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 3: And I also feel like your work is such a 1631 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 3: reflection of who you are and what you're interested in, 1632 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 3: you know, And the beautiful thing about being a woman 1633 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 3: is you know the chances if you're interested in something 1634 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,760 Speaker 3: and something's working for you, it's probably going to work 1635 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 3: for their care good points, and you've done such a 1636 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 3: good job communicating those things. So I think Substack is 1637 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 3: going to be awesome for you. I can't wait to 1638 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 3: check it out. I can't wait to read all of 1639 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 3: your books. Guys, if you haven't checked out one of 1640 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 3: Mindy's books yet, pick a copy up. I'm sure there's 1641 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,920 Speaker 3: one of them that we talked about today that you 1642 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,679 Speaker 3: were just like dying to get your hands on. After 1643 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 3: this conversation, Mindy, thank you so much for walking. 1644 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Next time, next time, I'm gonna wear 1645 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,160 Speaker 1: a proper outfit. 1646 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 3: No, no, next time we're going on a hike, okay, 1647 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,599 Speaker 3: and I want to wear a weighted best You will 1648 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 3: be the first person I've ever weighted vest heights with. 1649 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 1: Let's do it, and we're gonna do it. You could 1650 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,599 Speaker 1: end up doing it like post pregnancy and see if 1651 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 1: it does because you are going to gain some weight. 1652 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: That's your natural process. 1653 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, guys, I have. 1654 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the body holds onto fat a little 1655 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: bit more and there's a reason for that. 1656 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 2: And it's okay, yeah, that's totally fine. 1657 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: So when next year, if you guys come back to La, 1658 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 1: let's do a wreck we'll go up into the mountains 1659 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,120 Speaker 1: and New Wrecking together. 1660 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 2: I would love that. Thank you so much. 1661 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:39,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1662 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 3: That's our conversation with doctor Mindy Pels. 1663 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:46,639 Speaker 2: I am so. 1664 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,799 Speaker 3: Grateful for each and every one of you that tuned 1665 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,840 Speaker 3: in today and made it this far in the episode. 1666 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 3: From understanding how women can work with their hormones to 1667 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 3: rethinking the way we approach fasting, movement and overall health, 1668 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 3: this episode really covered a lot of bass for us. 1669 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 3: If you have questions for Mindy, you would like me 1670 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 3: to ask her the next time we sit down or 1671 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,960 Speaker 3: move our bodies together, as always, slide into our podcast DMS. 1672 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,600 Speaker 3: I am here to serve you and I want to 1673 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,599 Speaker 3: make sure we are doing our best to have all 1674 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,600 Speaker 3: of your questions answered, So do not be afraid to 1675 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 3: reach out to me. I am so excited every single 1676 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 3: time I get a DM from each and every one 1677 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 3: of you. So again, thank you guys so much for 1678 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,599 Speaker 3: pressing play, thank you for coming back week after week, 1679 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 3: and thank you for being a part of this community 1680 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,600 Speaker 3: that we are building together. This show genuinely would not 1681 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 3: exist without you, and I do not take a single 1682 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 3: listen for granted. If you are enjoying post friend high. 1683 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 3: It would mean so much if you followed the show 1684 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 3: here wherever you're listening, shared it with a friend, and 1685 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,160 Speaker 3: maybe even leave us a review. Your support helps us 1686 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 3: grow and continue bringing you conversations that we can all 1687 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 3: learn from together. We have awesome episodes coming up and 1688 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 3: we are posting every single Monday, so make sure you 1689 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,560 Speaker 3: follow the show and I'll see you guys next week. 1690 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 3: Mm hmm