WEBVTT - What Makes a One-hit Wonder? 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.520 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:13.720 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:20.000 There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Say something. Um, yeah, I 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.279 didn't even say say something funny. I just said say 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.280 something for us. Yeah, it's all right, man. That's good 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.400 quality in a broadcaster to freeze up on the air 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:33.720 and a professional talker. Yeah, yeah, how you doing. I'm great? Um, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.120 I'm good man. This is a fun, goofy little topic 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.480 and we haven't done one like that in a while. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.160 This was a fun article written by a guy named 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.080 Charles W. Bryant, a writer for the site. Yeah. I 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.080 will go ahead and say one thing I was disappointed 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.000 in this article, and I would still like to see 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:52.800 someone tackle this in documentary style. Maybe is the psychology 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.320 of being a one hit wonder? Oh? Like what it 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.120 does to your psyche? Yeah? Is it better to have 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.880 that one hit and fade away and at least you 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.360 had that? Or is it better to have never? You know? 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:06.880 I just I would be real curious to see a 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.560 series of interviews with one hit wonders to see, like 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.559 how they feel about it. You're saying, is it better 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.640 to have hit and lost than never to have hit 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.080 at all exactly, And I couldn't really find anything on that. 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.240 So I'm sure there's one or two who like listen 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.440 to the podcast and if you do, right in, let 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:28.760 us know how it is. We're interested. Blue Vega, Yeah, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:32.280 least um the fake Loue Vega. So, Chuck, I wanted 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.520 to commend you for this article because you really like 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.760 this is a tough one for With how stuff works articles, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.280 we typically take a topic that is, you know, has 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.360 a lot of research done on it, it's very well defined, 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.680 and then we deconstruct it. This one is like I 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.120 looked on the internet and if you type in one 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.800 Hit Wonder, there is like zero scholarly work done on it, 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.480 and for good reason. Yeah. Well, I mean it's interesting 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.400 though too, Like you brought up the psychology of being 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.280 a one. Yeah, they're shouldn't been anyone ever done a 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.360 study like that. There is nothing. It's all just lists. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.040 And I actually did find one good website. It's called 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.760 um one Hit Wonder central dot com and they have 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.040 everything and you can play like every song they have 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.799 it by year. Who the one hit Wonder was from 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.560 like the sixties to the two thousands, maybe fifties. There 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.640 are some of the greatest songs to me, or some 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.240 of the one hit wonders. And I mean that's the points, Like, 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.480 you know, one hit wonder is just something that everybody 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.040 liked at one time. We just didn't like whatever else 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.519 they were making, right, Um, at least as it's a 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.240 large collective group. Anyway, back to me commending you, Um, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.640 you had to take something that was really amorphous that 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.920 everybody knew and we knew if you got wrong, and 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.959 whipping into shape like a definable shape, and you got 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.040 it right. I think you did a great job. So Um. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.239 The first thing you pointed out was that no one 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.560 is certain of the origin of this phrase. That's right, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.960 but we figured out that it was. It first came 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.959 in print nine seven, right. Well that's what phrases done 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.400 work says, and I couldn't find anything to dispute it. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.240 But a writer there wrote the sentence in July seventy 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.880 about abba instead of becoming what everyone expected a one 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.880 hit wonder, they soon had a string of hits behind them. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.480 And although the website phrase dot org does say it 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.520 appears to have already been a used phrase, but this 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.280 is the first time they've seen it in print, right, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.880 and and so, and there actually is like a definition 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.919 for one hit wonder, like there's well, a hit, I 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.359 guess you can find a hit, and then it's got 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.440 to be on the because we're so American centric, has 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.400 to be on the billboard top and then specifically in 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.440 the top forty to be considered a hit. Right, Yeah, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.040 technically for like when most people like there have been 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.320 books written about one hit wonders and that's usually what 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.840 what they say. Okay, so that wasn't just you or 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.240 anything saying. And I thought it was a great definition. No, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.960 it's a good definition. But that's the generally held definition. 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.640 But then that's where it gets really blurry, as we're 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.040 about to find out, right, well, in many ways, I mean, yeah, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.400 you make a point that there's a lot of one 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.760 hit wonders by that definition. Who are legendary musicians like 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:14.880 Jimi Hendrix one hit, Janis Joplin one hit, Garth Brooks 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:20.800 as Chris Gaines. Yeah, that's this only billboard hit. Yeah, 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.880 this is only Billboard top forty hit. Yeah, but he 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.880 had country hits. It just lived on the country top ten. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.240 But yeah, as in the mainstream top forty. His only 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.120 hit was as Chris Kaines with the Haircut and the 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.919 Soul patch Man. That was Yeah, I don't know what 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.960 song that was even I don't need um Beck Yeah, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.400 the Dead, The Dead, the White Stripes, lou Reid, Iggy 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.919 Pop Divo, some like iconic bands and musicians that have 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:57.440 only had one hit. Um. And then you've got artists 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.159 who never had that hit but are still considered one 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:04.880 hit wonders. Because what you end up realizing is, despite 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.520 the definition of what a hit is, a one hit 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.359 wonder is something different. It's just an artist and a 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:15.680 song who captured something for a moment in time. It 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.080 doesn't matter if it was a top forty hit, right 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.480 like you you say, Um, Wallavoodoo's Mexican Radio. Absolutely, it's 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.400 not a top forty hit. No, but that's definitely a 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.800 hit in the zeitgeist. Did you put it? Absolutely? Who else? 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.400 I'll melt with you Modern English, the Weather Girls, it's 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.360 raining men Like you would say, all of these are 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.760 definitely one hit wonders and none of them had top 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.040 forty hits. Right. So, but sticking to the strict definition, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.600 um that I mean that still works too. Write like 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:51.320 the Penguins, Earth Angel. Yeah, in the fifties, right, Um, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.520 in the sixties you had um Summertime Blues by Blue Cheer, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.800 but they really spent blue on like there one there 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.000 one thing there, one shot was covered in blue Blue Cheer. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.320 Did Summertime Blues? Green Tambourine? Remember that song? No, I 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:12.239 didn't mean tambourine. It was very like psychedelic No and 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.599 the Lemon Pipers. You know, it's one of those songs 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.440 where sort of like h in the seventies Argents hold 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.040 your head up, like everybody knows that song. But I 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.080 bet ninety nine people out of a hundred I've never 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.920 heard of the vand Argent. No, they probably think, oh, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.479 wasn't that the guests who? Or wasn't that Joe Dirt? 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.520 Or yes, that was it? Yeah, I really I never 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.200 saw that movie. What I never saw Joe Dirt? Oh man, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.720 such a great like keep your Chin up movie is 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.720 so good. Like I really can hate David Spade, you 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.640 can hate all of that kind of comedy, but that 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.560 movie has such like it's got heart, It's a cute movie. Well, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.160 I had friends it's on Netflix streaming. Yeah, I had 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.479 friends that worked on it, and that's where I had 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.320 my Gary Busey insider story. Oh yeah, yeah, I think 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:02.960 I told you. You You know, he was He was supposed 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.359 to play the father and if you'll notice in the 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.120 film he does not play the father. No, it's done 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.760 by one Fred Ward. Yeah. So Gary Busey was on 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.160 set for a day and it didn't work out. He 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.200 made it. Wish I could tell the whole story. He 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.320 made it into Black Sheep with Chris Farley and um, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.040 David Spade. Yeah, he was like the crazy guy who 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.600 lived in a school bus in the woods. It was 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.800 the part he was born to play exactly. Please don't 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:59.040 come to our office, Gary buy um. All right. So 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.680 that was the fifty and that's generally when the rock 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.960 era in the fifties is when you people say you 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.560 can start talking about things like one hit wonders, like 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.760 not some guy who had one big band hit in 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.160 the nineteen thirties, although I'm sure they were there, you 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.960 know that's true. Uh, there's been one song that was 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.760 a one hit wonder for two bands, which is interesting. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.560 Oh yeah, let's here Funky Town really yeah, Lips incorporated 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.360 eighty and then I don't know if you remember Pseudo Echo. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.440 They did a version of that in six It was 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.080 a little more electric and upbeat, and that was a 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.280 bona fide top forty hit as well. Seems can't people 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.839 couldn't get enough of Funky Town. I hope whoever wrote 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:48.920 that like really cast in. Yeah. So the sixties all right, Now, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.480 the sixties was the green tambour in seventies songs like 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:57.080 Spirit in the Sky by Norman Greenbaum. That's a good song. Uh, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.800 it was in Apollo thirteen one took over the line. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.520 I I literally wrote Shuggar next to that, what like, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.360 oh you hate that song? It's pretty bad? Brewer and 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.200 Shipley and then Seasons in the Sun, great song, Terry 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:15.200 Jack's never heard of the guy No No, no Revy, 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.600 no rev um. And you also make the point that 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.560 the seventies were lousy with disco one hit wonders, And 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.480 in our disco episode we talked about why because it 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.959 was all producer driven rather than artist drive. Exactly. I 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.360 didn't even bother to like list any in here. You know, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.640 it's you can just name a disco song and there 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.800 you have. The eighties, of course, you had bands like 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.559 Soft Cells, Tainted Love and Oh Mickey You're So Fine, 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:42.400 Tony Basil, Uh, I want Candy by Bow Wow Wow Kajau. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:48.280 Remember what song I don't remember is that who was? Yeah? 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.839 Uh so the eighties was lousy with it, but a 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.920 lot of those songs are great songs, and a lot 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:58.120 of the artists in the eighties were popular in other countries. Yeah, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.760 and are known as one hit wonder here in the US. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.760 Like I was reading an article on I think Cracked 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.200 maybe about one hit wonders and they were saying, like, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.040 Aha had Take on Me, which was a hit here 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.480 in the United States, but that was it. But they're 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.760 like one of the top fifty grossing bands of all 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.880 time worldwide. Yeah. Well, and Aha falls into another weird category, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.120 which is a band that's known as a one hit 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.040 wonder who actually had a quieter second hit. Oh really Yeah, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.840 they had a song called the Sun Always Shines on 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.640 TV that was like a top twenty hit. I think, Wow, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.400 I don't remember that one. Nobody does. They're good though, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.560 now they're awesome. Um And then remember right said fred 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:44.320 I'm Too Sexy huge in England. Yes, like there, I'm 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.880 Too Sexy was actually only hit number two in England. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.880 They had another one that hit number one, but here 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.280 in the States. I think it hit number one here 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.200 and then that was it for right, said Fred. Uh 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.520 the same with Frankie Goes to Hollywood and uh yeah, 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.559 they were really big in Europe and Gary Newman. Yeah 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.640 that was a good song though, that song holds up 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.960 the car back and listen to cars. Yeah, that dude 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.199 was a good musician. Well, and he was hugely popular 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.520 and still like tours today. Yeah, so he's he's one 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.760 of those guys that's like, please don't call me one. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.920 I wonder I had a long successful career. Look at 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.040 my house. You know it's a car. No, I think 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.120 it's like a mansion. He lives in his car. It's 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.760 pread feels safest, he can lock all his doors. Uh. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.840 Falco and oh yeah, Nina, we're really big in German 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.720 speaking countries. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. But you 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.880 know had the ninety nine red balloons Balloons and then 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.920 Falco's rock Me on My Dais. Yeah, huge hit here. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.360 Like it didn't occur to my young brain that that 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.760 wasn't from the Ama Dais soundtrack, because remember it came 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.800 out at about the same time as the movie, and um, like, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.240 I just thought it was part of the soundtrack, yeah, 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.320 the movie sound Well the point with this though, is 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.400 that one hit wonder it's sort of a sort of 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.440 a derogatory term to throw on unearnest. So a lot 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.560 of these people are like in America, like you jerks, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.640 I was huge in Europe or maybe some other country, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:20.880 and uh yeah, who cares so much for you? One 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:26.280 hit the nineties crash Test Dummies, remember those dudes? Well 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.640 that was the song. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, the macarena, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.280 even though I don't even like to count that. Um, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.640 what about Faith No More is epic? Yeah, see that's 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.360 a band that hugely critically popular and had a big 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:44.840 cult following. But yeah, just the one hit, the epic 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.360 the name of it, right, you want it all, but 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:50.240 you can't have it? That was I remember here that 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.800 song on the first time. This is the coolest thing 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.080 I've ever heard. Yeah, and that lead singer what's his name, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.080 Mike something. He's like super respected. He's been another band 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.960 like Mr Uncle. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's a big like 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.840 has a big cult following, and not not among cults, 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.120 even like among people who aren't in cults. All right, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.760 So that's music. That's an overview. Yeah, you make a 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.160 really good point in this article that, like one hit wonder, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.640 that derogatory term isn't just um aimed at people only 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.240 in the music industry, although that's where the lion's share 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.839 of it is, but it shows up in sports. You 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.880 pointed out a couple of them, a couple of instances. Yeah. Well, 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.240 if you have one hit in baseball, then you've been 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.920 a complete and utter failure. But a couple of guys 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.480 have had one hit and that one hit was a 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.720 home run, which is pretty cool, which is pretty interesting. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.440 Who was that? There was a guy named um Chris 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:44.080 Jellic whose name might recognize for some reason. Yeah, and 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.200 I don't follow the Mets or anything, but I guess 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.800 I just saw that that bit of trivia before that 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.079 he had one hit and it was a home run. Yeah. Maybe. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.640 So there's a guy who didn't have a hit UM 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.960 named Eddie Goodell. He had one plate appearance in a 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.280 nineteen fifty one game for the Yankees, and he was 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.240 a little person. Oh yeah, and they put him in 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.520 against the St. Louis Browns and he drew four consecutive 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:14.400 um uh balls and got a walk. Yeah, and his 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.640 jerseys in the Hall of Fame, and it's you can't 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.400 see me doing this right now. I'm rubbing my face. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.680 His number was one eight. Really yeah, but he was 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.720 I guess you could say a one hit sports wonder. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.520 It was kind of a fun story until then. Yeah, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.400 but I mean that's that was his jam, that's what 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.920 he got paid for, and that's I mean, he was 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.160 aware that he was a little person. So off. What 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.120 about the art world, design world. There's a very famous person, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.000 Harvey Belle, who has the perfect name for what he did. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.240 Why is it the perfect name, Harvey bell It sounds 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.760 like the creator of the smiley face. Yeah, the iconic 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:55.160 seventy smiley face. He created that as a marketing campaign. UM. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:00.840 It sounded like an internal um morale campaign for State 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:06.320 UH mutual Life Assurance company UM and it took off. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.240 I don't know if the company made the money or what. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.360 But he was paid two forty bucks for it. And 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.760 he never had another artistic no hit. And I looked 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.760 to see if there were any other artists who were 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.800 considered one hit wondering. I found some, but I didn't 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.840 recognize any of them. I did recognize one Grant would 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.800 the painter of American Gothic. Oh yeah, he painted that 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.800 and was he won all sorts of prizes, became like 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.000 this like caused celeb like all over the art world, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.240 and the media started digging into his life and realized 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.400 that he was a middle aged bachelor who lived at 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.920 home with his mother and sister and like wanted to 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.720 know more about that, and all of a sudden he 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.880 like just really couldn't handle the the limelight. And it's 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.520 it's a pretty sad story. I think I read an 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.560 article about it on Mental flass. It was worth reading. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.120 So he never painted again, or I don't think he 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.160 ever kind of went for the Gusto if he didn't 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.960 just stop painting altogether. I don't remember that to the article. Well, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.080 the art world certainly has a lot of people famous, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.560 super famous for a single painting, but they may have been, 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.880 you know, very revered in other areas like faith no more. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.080 That's right, the faith no more of the art world. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.760 I told just all the scream this last trip to 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.960 New York. Oh yeah, and you were like, yeah, this 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.680 was like I can see what you're talking. I mean, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.760 like you build something like that up in your head 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.120 see it everywhere, and then just to see the real one. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.280 It's either going to go one of two ways. You're 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:33.520 gonna be underwhelmed or amazed. You know, I completely agree, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.400 And that's been my uh, that's been what's happened to 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.760 me with art, because you know how I feel about art. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.080 I know, how do you feel about art? I love it? 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:46.360 What about books? Yeah, um, To Kill a Mockingbird. Yeah, 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.280 that's the one most often cited as the one hit 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.840 wonder because Harperly wrote one book. That's some one of 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.600 those rare ones where I actually think the movie is 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.600 better than the book. And I love the book. It's 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.880 one of my favorite books of all time. And I 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.720 hadn't read it in a while, and I went back 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.080 and read it, and then I watched the movie shortly after. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.520 I was like, holy cow, the movies better than the book. Yeah, man, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.800 Gregory Peck, I mean yeah, talk about one of the 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.240 best casting but everybody, like, all of those actors were amazing, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.240 every single one of them. Yeah. Yeah, that's good stuff. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.639 She wrote, um, the one book, and she worked on 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.560 a second for a while called The Long Good Vibe, 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.960 but shelved it. Then in the nineteen eighties, she started 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.080 another book and never finished that one either, And I 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.199 guess she just procrastinated. I think she just I don't know. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.679 I don't know if anyone has an answer why she 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.160 never wrote again. Same with the Sallenger, Yeah, Catching the Rye. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.439 That was it, except he wrote short stories too, But 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.359 I mean, I think he never published another novel and 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.280 I will never know. And John Kennedy Toole, sure, Confederacy 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.879 dunce is, how often do you think about that book 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:57.640 just in your normal life? How? I don't know, Almost never? Maybe, yeah, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.439 a couple of times a year, maybe when it's like 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.360 a movie be in the works that never happens. I 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.919 was thinking about that movie or that book yesterday and 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.040 I hadn't read this article yet. Have you read it? No? Yeah, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.040 it's good. It's like I think a lot of people 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.840 have these expectations because it's known as his like genius 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.960 work after this guy committed suicide, and it is really good. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.920 But um, I don't think it's like one of the 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.359 greatest books of all time or anything. Yeah, so what 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.119 happened to him? Do you know? No? I I just 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.399 I've never read the book. I don't know much about it. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.080 I know it's kind of like a wacky Southern gothic Yeah, yeah, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.000 um kind of novel he lived with his aunts, I think, 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.920 or something like yeah, this crazy character in Louisiana that 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.320 it's always grabbed my attention because it's just like a 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.800 perfect title. And then the guy's name is perfect as well, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.760 John Kennedy tool yea or the character his the author 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:53.040 got you, well, he killed himself. He was clearly now 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.639 suffered some sort of mental illness and um, could not 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:01.880 get published and that drove him to eventually commits suicide 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.479 in nineteen nine. And then his mother made it her 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.359 life's work to get it published and did so. And 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.639 then his second book was published in the On Bible 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.680 I think in six and that was made to a movie. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.280 So he's not a one hit wonder then, well Neon 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.120 Bible wasn't a huge hit, but but yeah, I would 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.960 say he's a one hit wonder. Um. And you also 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:27.080 bring up movies too, man. Yeah, and on books again. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.520 Sylvia Plath is on here for the bell Jar. I 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.080 kind of wish I hadn't put that in here because 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.400 she was a well known poet. That's why I hadn't 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.280 mentioned it, you know. But she did write the one book, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.359 and then would she do stick her head in the 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.920 oven or something. I don't know how she killed herself. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.960 I think Virginia Wolf drowned herself, right, Sylvia Plath on 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.560 herself on herself? I think did she? That sounds right. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.480 I remember that scene in Wonder Boys where Toby McGuire 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.760 rattles off the famous celebrity suicides. It was really great. 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.240 That was a great movie. Joseph Heller with Catch twenty two. Yeah, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:04.040 that's certainly a one hit wonder um. So yeah, movies, um, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.840 I mean there more directors and actors that you could 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:12.320 even mention that had one hit, but legit super super hits, 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.400 people like Michael is it Chimino or Samino? Samino? I think, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.240 although if it's if you're speaking in the Italian, it 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:23.280 would be Chimino. Uh. He did The Deer Hunter, of course, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:28.040 one Best Picture in four other Academy Awards. Did he? Huh? 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:31.160 Did he? Mal? That's what they tell him when they're 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.960 like making them play Russian Roulette? Did he? Yeah, except 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:37.000 they probably scream it. Yeah. Yeah, that scene was so intent. 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.920 I saw that very young, really young to be seeing 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.480 that movie in retrospect it made an impression on you. Yeah, huge? 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:49.960 Um but yeah. He famously made Heaven's Gate Um as 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.160 his follow up, which was one of the notorious disasters 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.760 along with Ishtar. Was it like water World Skate Warren 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.639 Baby movie too? Or is that Heven Can Wait? He 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.200 was in Heaven Ken Waite and his Star, So what 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:07.159 about Heavens? What was that about? Yeah? I think it 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.240 was a western if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, and it 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.080 was just a notorious failure and a very expensive one. 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.080 And then Tomino never He made a few other movies, 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.600 but you haven't heard of many of them. He did 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.240 Year of the Dragon was like with Mickey Rourke, which 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.800 the only other like notable movie that was supposed to 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.560 be a good one. Yeah, but it was far from 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.040 a hit, you know what I'm saying. And then my favorite, uh, 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.800 Steve Gordon one of my favorite movies of all time. 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.560 I have not seen it. You didn't see Arthur. Not 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.160 only have I not seen the original Arthur, I haven't 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.639 seen the remake that includes our friend Hodgeman as a 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.360 candy store manager believer. That was terrible, by the way, 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.040 not Hosman's bit, not Hodgement was great, but the remake 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.400 was really bad, and it was so sad because Arthur 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.160 is one of the movies that I hold very very 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.639 dear to me. And Steve Gordon wrote and directed it 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:00.720 and then died after when it was the only movie 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.080 he ever made by his own hand. No, I think 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.680 he had a heart attack or something and died young 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:10.040 but young ish. Uh. And it was just so like 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:14.960 it was a gut wrenching experience watching the remake for me. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.600 Why did you watch it? Like, for example, I think 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.880