Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life,
Speaker 1: just to touch, to get you through. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, people, the party
Speaker 1: after the party. The bridge to get you from one
Speaker 1: full episode of disgrace Land to the other. The backyard,
Speaker 1: to dig into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth,
Speaker 1: to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. Of this
Speaker 1: bonus episode, Weezer's so called blue album The Glorious Year
Speaker 1: for Music That nineteen ninety four was a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff about pulp fiction that you probably didn't know. Plus
Speaker 1: your voicemails, texts, emails, comments, dms, and as always, a
Speaker 1: whole lot of rosie. This is podcast for the musically obsessed,
Speaker 1: the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best
Speaker 1: history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is
Speaker 1: where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the
Speaker 1: kind that you'll end up telling to someone else. All right,
Speaker 1: disc goes, Let's get into it. What's with these homies
Speaker 1: this and my Girl. Why do they get a front?
Speaker 1: Or is it? Why do they have to front? Did
Speaker 1: he use proper English there? I don't know. We laughed
Speaker 1: at that Weezer lyric now, and I guess we kind
Speaker 1: of laughed at it back in nineteen ninety four when
Speaker 1: it was released, when it smacked us in the face
Speaker 1: as the opening line from the band's Buddy Holly single.
Speaker 1: I didn't take Weezer seriously at the time. I took
Speaker 1: them and the Blue album. I took the band and
Speaker 1: the album for granted, I really did. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: until their follow up in nineteen ninety six, until Pinkerton,
Speaker 1: that I started to think of Weezer as a real band,
Speaker 1: at least a band that I was interested in. And
Speaker 1: the irony is that that was kind of the point
Speaker 1: of Pinkerton, Rivers Cuomo. He wanted to be thought of
Speaker 1: as a real artist, somebody akin to Kurt Cobain, and
Speaker 1: when he made Pinkerton, that helped him achieve that goal.
Speaker 1: But he ended up distancing himself from that album. There's
Speaker 1: the irony. He dismissed it for a bunch of different reasons,
Speaker 1: but it was a commercial flop, and it was a
Speaker 1: huge departure from the Blue Album. But that Blue Album
Speaker 1: was the album that caused us in the first place
Speaker 1: to not take him seriously, which is the thing that
Speaker 1: he was trying to correct with Pinkerton. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's all very confusing. He's since come around on Pinkerton
Speaker 1: sort of. There's a bunch of conflicting comments out there,
Speaker 1: but I believe deep down Rivers Cuomo knows what a
Speaker 1: great album that is. But for me, Weezer never really
Speaker 1: recovered after that, and being from Boston, being part of
Speaker 1: the rock scene back then, we had a direct connection
Speaker 1: to Weezer all of a sudden because of bass player
Speaker 1: Mikey Welch, who was well known around town, and he
Speaker 1: became the bass player for Weezer after Pinkerton. But you know,
Speaker 1: the stuff they released afterward, I don't know. It just it.
Speaker 1: I don't dislike Weezer, but I'm not running to listen
Speaker 1: to their albums unless it's Pinkerton or even the Blue Album.
Speaker 1: The Blue Album is the album in my house that
Speaker 1: my kids and my wife love, and I lose the
Speaker 1: Pinkerton argument every time. But that's not really the point.
Speaker 1: I want to make. The point I want to make
Speaker 1: is that nowadays it's weird to think that we had
Speaker 1: the luxury of dismissing an album as great as the
Speaker 1: Blue Album. Back in nineteen ninety four, we did not
Speaker 1: know how good we had it when it came to music,
Speaker 1: when it came to culture in general, but especially when
Speaker 1: it came to music in nineteen ninety four. Nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: four was a banger of a year for music releases,
Speaker 1: but so it was basically every year during the nineties,
Speaker 1: but ninety four in particular ninety one as well, but
Speaker 1: really ninety four, it's just it's unbelievable. Check these records out.
Speaker 1: These were full lengths that were released in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: Definitely Maybe by Oasis, Grace by Jeff Buckley, Dookie by
Speaker 1: Green Day, Ill Communication by Beastie Boys, Vitology by Pearl Jam,
Speaker 1: Ready to Die by Notorious Big, super Unknown Soundgarden, Park
Speaker 1: Life by Blur, Mellow Gold by Beck Bad Religion, Stranger
Speaker 1: Than Fiction, Roman, Candle by Elliott Smith, Illmatic by Nas,
Speaker 1: Sick of It All, Scratched the Surface, Nirvana, MTV Unplug,
Speaker 1: Shellac At Action Park, Tori Amos Came at us under
Speaker 1: the Pink. I think that's our debut album or a
Speaker 1: second album. I don't know, but that's the one with
Speaker 1: Cornflake Girl. I believe Grandly Buffalo, Mighty Joe Moon, great album,
Speaker 1: not super well known, but great, TLC Crazy, Sexy Cool,
Speaker 1: Huge Record, Huge hits, nine inch Nails, Downward, Spiralrim Monster,
Speaker 1: Tom Petty, Wildflowers, Mad Ball, Set It Off, Purple by Stone,
Speaker 1: Tumble Pilots, The Jesus Lizards rerec Down came out. I
Speaker 1: think I saw them in ninety four. Lu's just Jackson,
Speaker 1: Natural Ingredients, Regulate the gfunk Eraby Warren g Sonic Youth, Experimental,
Speaker 1: jet Set, Trash and No Star Kaias Welcome to Sky Valley.
Speaker 1: We love that album. That was the precursor to Queens
Speaker 1: of the Stone Age. Crooked Rain. Crooked Rain by Pavement, Portishead,
Speaker 1: Dummy Drive Like Jay Hu Yank Crime. If you don't
Speaker 1: know that album, go check it out. Backbeat came out
Speaker 1: with an excellent soundtrack with a supergroup. The Crow soundtrack
Speaker 1: was from nineteen ninety four. A Whole Lived Through This
Speaker 1: Sunny Day Real Estate Diary, Nick Cave and the Bad
Speaker 1: Seas Let Love in Wait by Rollins Band. I didn't
Speaker 1: love all of these albums when they came out. Some
Speaker 1: I've grown to appreciate over time, but I can confidently
Speaker 1: say that they were all on my radar and I
Speaker 1: was into most of them when they were released. In
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, I lived with a bunch of roommates.
Speaker 1: We were all huge music fans, too many roommates to count,
Speaker 1: and the shitty little, literally rat infested basement apartment on
Speaker 1: Huntington Avenue and Bostons. While I was going to Northeastern,
Speaker 1: we were within walking distance to Newbury Street, so Newbury
Speaker 1: Comics was there, Tower Records on the corner of Newbury,
Speaker 1: Mass have And I can attest that nearly every one
Speaker 1: of these records on CD, every one of these albums
Speaker 1: on CD at least, was either physically purchased by myself
Speaker 1: and or my roommates, or was in our radar, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We had access to all of
Speaker 1: this music in the year that it was released nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four. I didn't love all of it, obviously, I
Speaker 1: wasn't buying TLC albums, but those singles were everywhere, for example,
Speaker 1: and I didn't hate them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I didn't hate on THLC. Now I hear those singles
Speaker 1: and I'm blown away by how great they are. And again,
Speaker 1: how I just dismissed it. This is crazy to me.
Speaker 1: And a lot of this stuff, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of these artists that I just mentioned, some of the stuff.
Speaker 1: If I tried playing it in that apartment I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: I'd get my ass turn up for listening to it.
Speaker 1: Because music was hotly debated, bands fell in and out
Speaker 1: of favor with every release, with every video, with basically
Speaker 1: every move they made. For example, I loved that third
Speaker 1: Pro Jam record, Vitology, but this is the third Pearl
Speaker 1: Jam album. The second Pearl Jam album was a monster record, monster, huge, huge.
Speaker 1: You could just walk around Boston and you would just
Speaker 1: hear that album playing from windows. It was absolutely massive.
Speaker 1: So by the time the third record comes out, I mean,
Speaker 1: we were sick. I was sick of Pearl Jam by
Speaker 1: ten basically, but I still it was so overplayed that
Speaker 1: first album. But I still liked the band. My friend's
Speaker 1: on the other hand, it was way uncool to like
Speaker 1: Pearl Jam by the third record. It was definitely uncool
Speaker 1: to like Pearl Jam. They were just you know, a
Speaker 1: less cool version of Soundgarden, who we thought was beyond cool.
Speaker 1: They were darker than Pearl Jam, their singer was just
Speaker 1: as talented, they were heavier. But you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: love super Unknown, the album that came out in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four, as much as I love Bad motor Finger.
Speaker 1: I still listen to Bad motor Finger. My neighbors can
Speaker 1: attest to that. It's one of my favorite driving records.
Speaker 1: I pull onto my street pretty much once a week
Speaker 1: with Bad motor Finger blaring from my car windows. Great
Speaker 1: driving records, one of my favorite driving records. It's interesting
Speaker 1: for me to think about these albums from the perspective
Speaker 1: of two of our greatest intellectuals and music scholars from
Speaker 1: the nineties, Beavis and butt Head. Now their takes on
Speaker 1: these artists still to this day crack me up. They're
Speaker 1: exaggerated takes, obviously, but they're they're rooted in fact, and
Speaker 1: they're exaggerated takes on what my friends that I really
Speaker 1: thought about these artists, Soundgarden, the Butthole Surfers, Jesus Lizard,
Speaker 1: Yes Please Yes, as Beavis and butthead We'll tell you
Speaker 1: over and over again. Now Osbourne duetting with Leeda Ford,
Speaker 1: not so much. We're Good nineteen ninety four was so good,
Speaker 1: so good for music. So much went on too, I mean,
Speaker 1: Kirk Comyine died. Oj Simpson took us on a wild
Speaker 1: ride and his wife Bronco Nancy Kerrigan, a Northeastern University alum.
Speaker 1: By the way, she got her knee popped ninety four
Speaker 1: by Tanya Harding and her Thugs friends appeared for the
Speaker 1: first time on television. Gave us something to look at
Speaker 1: on Thursday nights. After Seinfeld, there was a massive earthquake.
Speaker 1: People don't understand how big this earthquake was. It killed
Speaker 1: a ton of people, like almost sixty people in southern California.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan started playing baseball. Pulp Fiction was released, and
Speaker 1: so it was its soundtrack, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we all liked cool in the gang. Bill Hicks died. Yes,
Speaker 1: we were under Bill Hickson. Nineteen ninety four. Bill Hicks died.
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey was everywhere in ninety four. He had like
Speaker 1: eight hundred movies that year. Jenny McCarthy, who I don't
Speaker 1: think yet was with Jim Carrey, but she was on
Speaker 1: the cover of Playboy ninety four. Reality Bites was a
Speaker 1: lame version of all of us that we all pretended
Speaker 1: to hate but we secretly loved. Clerks was a worse
Speaker 1: version of us that we all pretended to like more
Speaker 1: than we liked Reality Bites. I guess my point is
Speaker 1: that there was so much awesomeness going on back in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, and all of it had the potential
Speaker 1: to distract me from the awesomeness that was going on
Speaker 1: on Weezer's blue album Happy Days. Spoofs you know, kind
Speaker 1: of funny but didn't really rate. And then Pinkerton, like
Speaker 1: I said, opened my eyes. But it wasn't until a
Speaker 1: couple of years later. That record was released in ninety
Speaker 1: six and was radically different, radically different, And even though
Speaker 1: that was the album that Rivers Cuomo set out to make,
Speaker 1: and that album in a way did what he wanted
Speaker 1: it to do, again, he's got so many conflicting comments
Speaker 1: and thoughts about what I believe to be Weezer's best album,
Speaker 1: not to mention a bunch of weird comments and actions
Speaker 1: as well, which you can hear all about in this
Speaker 1: week's new disgrace Land episode on Wheezer coming up next
Speaker 1: to Disgraceland coming up in the feed next right after
Speaker 1: this episode is going to be our archive episode on
Speaker 1: Aaliyah speaking of the nineties and her illegal marriage to
Speaker 1: r Kelly and her the mystery around her death. That's
Speaker 1: coming this Sunday, and then on Tuesday, We've got our
Speaker 1: new episode on Adele. Adele's album twenty one. It's sold
Speaker 1: like seventeen billion copies, actually, no seventeen million, but it
Speaker 1: feels like I just one of the biggest selling albums
Speaker 1: and I don't own it. I'm not one of those
Speaker 1: who bought it. I don't dislike Adele, but I'm not
Speaker 1: running to listen to Adele or to go to her shows.
Speaker 1: I like her more as a personality. I think she's
Speaker 1: hot shit, and she's obviously tremendous talented, and honestly, if
Speaker 1: she put her stuff out in ninety four, I probably
Speaker 1: own the album, you know, but I don't. I'm one
Speaker 1: of the few, I guess who doesn't know. And I
Speaker 1: do have like seven copies of Frampton Comes Alive by
Speaker 1: Peter Frampton does another one of those records that for
Speaker 1: its time sold a gazillion copies. Which massive selling album
Speaker 1: do you guys just not care about? Don't vibe with?
Speaker 1: Is it thriller? I don't know anything? By the Beatles?
Speaker 1: Abbey Road, let it be Exile on mainStreet by the
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones might be my favorite album of all time.
Speaker 1: You might hate it. It's largely considered to be the
Speaker 1: Stone's greatest. I don't think it's their their biggest seller.
Speaker 1: But my point is which top selling albums? Oasis definitely,
Speaker 1: maybe Nirvana, never mind? Do you just not care about?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the question of the week next week
Speaker 1: as we dive into Adell. It's gonna be a great episode.
Speaker 1: Adele is fascinated with true crime, and because of that
Speaker 1: we got a really interesting entry into Adell's story. Can't
Speaker 1: wait for you to hear it. Six one seven nine
Speaker 1: six six six three eight, be a call, leave me
Speaker 1: a voicemail, Hit me up on text with your answer
Speaker 1: to the question of the week? Which massive selling album?
Speaker 1: Do you not have any your collection because you know
Speaker 1: you just don't care? Disgrace Lampod on the Socials. Disgrace
Speaker 1: Sampod at gmail dot com if you want to email
Speaker 1: me now. I mentioned pulp fiction earlier and in the
Speaker 1: exclusive section of this after Party. Uh Doctor Lundy and
Speaker 1: I are going to take you deeper into nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: four and discuss some of the weirdness connected to pulp fiction.
Speaker 1: For example, did you know that Tarantino wrote the Bruce
Speaker 1: Willis part for Matt Dylon. Okay, I did not know that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot I didn't know about this movie. And
Speaker 1: I love this movie. This movie, it was so ubiquitous
Speaker 1: and it still kind of is in culture and in
Speaker 1: history that it feels weird to get out there and
Speaker 1: champion it. You know what I mean. It's like again,
Speaker 1: I bring up the Beatles, like Champion into the Beatles.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't need any more champions. It's good,
Speaker 1: They're good. You know this movie's good. Everyone knows. It's
Speaker 1: fucking great change the game. But still, there's so much
Speaker 1: to this movie that I did not know about a
Speaker 1: lot of weirdness. Zeth and I are gonna be diving
Speaker 1: into it in the exclusive section of this episode. Go
Speaker 1: to disgraceandpod dot com to become an all access member
Speaker 1: of Disgraceland to unlock this exclusive content and add free listening.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be
Speaker 1: back in a flash right after this with your voicemails, texts, emails,
Speaker 1: dms and more. All right, guys, I'm backing them in
Speaker 1: the phone, but it's the one across the hall. I'm
Speaker 1: hanging on the telephone six one seven nine oh six
Speaker 1: six six three eight. You want to give me a call,
Speaker 1: I want to send me a text about anything, any
Speaker 1: subject under the great blue sky. Last week we talked
Speaker 1: a lot about great punk albums. It was in reaction
Speaker 1: to Rolling Stones list of the one hundred greatest punk
Speaker 1: rock albums. We're talking about records that are punk but
Speaker 1: aren't by punk artists, all that stuff. Steve hits us
Speaker 1: on this from Toronto.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, Steve from Toronto here, just want to comment
Speaker 2: on your punk albums that are punk but are punk,
Speaker 2: that are punk.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like.
Speaker 2: I'm cheating with this one. But nineteen eighty eight, it
Speaker 2: takes a nation of millions to hold us back by
Speaker 2: public enemy. I don't know if it gets more punk
Speaker 2: than that, that's not punk, So yeah, that's my I'm
Speaker 2: throwing that.
Speaker 1: One into the proverbial ring.
Speaker 2: There takes nations of millions to.
Speaker 4: Hold us back by the great public Enemy.
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Steve You're absolutely right. Doesn't get much more subversive, doesn't
Speaker 1: get much more hard hitting than it takes a Nation
Speaker 1: of millions to hold Us back by Public Enemy. And
Speaker 1: I actually think that record for me, I believe it's
Speaker 1: Public Enemy's second album, full length, right second. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was my introduction and I was just just kind of
Speaker 1: catching up with who Public Enemy was by the time.
Speaker 1: The Fight the Power single came out after that record
Speaker 1: as part of Do the Right Thing, and I think
Speaker 1: Fight the Power ended up on their third album, but
Speaker 1: it was the single in the video, and I remember
Speaker 1: watching that and just my jaw being on the floor.
Speaker 1: I could I could not believe what I was seeing.
Speaker 1: It was exhilarating, it was thrilling. It was a new
Speaker 1: kind of hip hop. It felt like hip hop, but
Speaker 1: it felt like history and CNN in Hollywood. It just
Speaker 1: it was electrifying, just as electrifying as when bands like
Speaker 1: The Sex Pistols or The Clash hit the scene, and
Speaker 1: again with the same level of subversiveness. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: call from Max? Let's see what Max has got to say.
Speaker 4: Hey, it's Max on the sixty one Slash four to ten.
Speaker 4: So favorite punk not punk record? How about Arthur By
Speaker 4: The Kinks. Love the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks Suji, Thanks Max. You know, I don't really think
Speaker 1: of the Kinks as punk because they predate it. But
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I hear, I do. I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. The attitude is fully there. And
Speaker 1: if the Kinks came about, if they were younger, if
Speaker 1: they came about later, they would have been part of
Speaker 1: that whole movement for sure. All right, let's check in
Speaker 1: with Sarah from the two oh six.
Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, this is Sarah from two oh six. I
Speaker 5: just wanted to add a little addenda to my previous
Speaker 5: message regarding the Jed Farh and Daniel Johnson album. Okay,
Speaker 5: so I'm a lifelong adult entertainer. I used to strip
Speaker 5: on Bourbon Street in New Orleans right before the Hurricane Katrina. Anyhow,
Speaker 5: we used to work they shift in this little strip
Speaker 5: club on Bourbon Street, and when the customers weren't tipping
Speaker 5: and they were just there to drink, and we would
Speaker 5: compete with each other to do what we call torture tracks,
Speaker 5: which were the kind of music that was like not
Speaker 5: amenable to drinking and that basically was kind of torturous
Speaker 5: for normal flash drunk dudes to have to listen to
Speaker 5: while they're also looking at gives and but my go too,
Speaker 5: uh let me bring this on home. My go to
Speaker 5: was always Frankenstein Conquers the World by Dad Fair and
Speaker 5: Daniel Johnson. I just listened to it again and it
Speaker 5: continues to remain brilliant, jagged rhythm, weird, freaking vocals and
Speaker 5: kind of an anti science anti you know AI like,
Speaker 5: but you know, obviously written in the eighties, so completely prescient. Anyhow,
Speaker 5: that was my torture track. I love your show. Thank
Speaker 5: you so much.
Speaker 3: Hice.
Speaker 1: All right, Sarah from the two six. First of all, guys,
Speaker 1: if you if you're going to a strip club, you
Speaker 1: have to tip. It's the whole point. I mean, so
Speaker 1: the torture tracks, I get, I've never heard this before,
Speaker 1: but I love it. I love this. It's like a
Speaker 1: scene out of a movie. Now to her point, however,
Speaker 1: about Daniel Johnson, Jad Fair, Jade I always called it
Speaker 1: Jade Fair, which is probably wrong. Jad Fair is correct.
Speaker 1: I don't know this album. I don't know it. I'm
Speaker 1: looking it up right now. Jad Fair co founder the
Speaker 1: influential lo fi band Half Japanese and cult singer songwriter
Speaker 1: Daniel Johnston teamed up in the late nineteen eighties for
Speaker 1: one of indie rock's most legendary collaborations. Their partnership resulted
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty nine album It's Spooky, wildly celebrated
Speaker 1: for its primitive term, emotional rawness, and childlike sincerity. I
Speaker 1: want to hear this tracks like I did Acid with
Speaker 1: Caroline McDonald's on the Brain Torture track compilations. This is
Speaker 1: a good one. That's a good question. I'm a noodle
Speaker 1: on this, Sarah. Thanks for your call. All right, let's
Speaker 1: chick in with Arman in Calgary.
Speaker 3: Hi, Jake, this is Arman from Calgary, Alberta. In regards
Speaker 3: to your question. With a band that took a complete
Speaker 3: left turn with an album. I'm a big Depeche Mode
Speaker 3: fan and was into the synthpop stuff. Their song Faith
Speaker 3: and Devotion went from full synth pop to full instruments,
Speaker 3: and it was a complete left turn. Not only was
Speaker 3: a complete left turn, but it was a successful left
Speaker 3: turn and hit just as hard as any of the
Speaker 3: original Depeche Mode stuff. Along with that, shortly afterwards, they
Speaker 3: went back to what they were known for successfully thirty
Speaker 3: plus years, forty plus years, still around, still making music,
Speaker 3: still selling out concerts. That's a track record, and Songs
Speaker 3: of Faith and Devotion just established a whole different clientele
Speaker 3: and fan group for them while maintaining the group they had.
Speaker 3: Thank you, love the show, Have a good night.
Speaker 1: Armin great call man, great, great point about depeche Mode,
Speaker 1: and I was gonna say it reminds me of Rolling
Speaker 1: Stones Some Girls, which was at the time seen as
Speaker 1: their quote unquote disco album. It's not a disco album,
Speaker 1: but they've got that disco They deploy the disco base,
Speaker 1: drum thing, doom doom, doom doom, do that thing, that
Speaker 1: octave thing, and it's it's a fantastic departure from what
Speaker 1: they were doing before. It's it's great. But unlike depeche Mode,
Speaker 1: the Stones never really recover from that, recovers the wrong word,
Speaker 1: They never really come back to what they were before that. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of great Stones records after that.
Speaker 1: There's Tattoo You, which is basically Some Girls. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing, same same sessions, I believe, And then I
Speaker 1: mean Steel Wheels, what are we looking at? Harlem Shuffle?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying they never really get back
Speaker 1: to that rock, grindy Americana based rock that they amalgamated
Speaker 1: into something that was wholly their own. I mean they try,
Speaker 1: but it just never really, they never really do it,
Speaker 1: not to the effect that the albums before some girls had.
Speaker 1: But with depeche Mode, you're right, they go right back
Speaker 1: to what they were doing before, and it's fantastic. I
Speaker 1: love the Wrong Stones, don't get me wrong, but you
Speaker 1: gotta admit stuff after nineteen eighties is lacking. Great call,
Speaker 1: Great call, Armin, appreciate you three one zero on the
Speaker 1: same subject, texting strange, just deviation of any band I
Speaker 1: can think of as bad religion. Second studio album, Into
Speaker 1: the Unknown, it truly was. It was prog rock and organs. Really.
Speaker 1: The album kicks off with a synth swell. It sounds
Speaker 1: like it came out of an AT and T commercial.
Speaker 1: It's so strange, So glad they abandoned that direction. I
Speaker 1: don't know this album, never even heard of it, never
Speaker 1: heard of it? What's it called? The Unknown? Into the Unknown?
Speaker 1: All right? Six one oh rights in the Anthony Boardain
Speaker 1: rewind gutted me, just like when I heard it the
Speaker 1: first time, just like when I heard that he died,
Speaker 1: What a heartbreaking disgrace. I saw him live in eastern
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania at a talk he did and it was a
Speaker 1: highlight of my life, especially talking about his love hate
Speaker 1: relationship with the King, the Colonel and the Crown Mburger
Speaker 1: King KFC at mcdeez. Thank you for sharing his life
Speaker 1: and struggles with honesty and compassion, nuance and love instead
Speaker 1: of gossip and preaching hiss. Kudos to you and the
Speaker 1: Double Elves team. Keep up the great work and rock
Speaker 1: and roll from your pal Jonathan in the six to one,
Speaker 1: Oh Jonathan, thanks brother, appreciate you. Check out that Anthony
Speaker 1: Bourdain episode in the rewind slot. Guys, if you haven't
Speaker 1: should be at the top of your feet eight five
Speaker 1: six right said hello, It's Mark from the A five
Speaker 1: to six. Beck is pretty punk. Also, Midnight Vultures is
Speaker 1: an outlier. It's an album that when I showed some friends,
Speaker 1: they were like, what is wrong with you? Others loved it.
Speaker 1: Midnight Vultures is very strange, even from an artist that
Speaker 1: is known to Buck Trend's Yeah, super strange. But I
Speaker 1: would say Sea Change is even weirder or it was
Speaker 1: at the time. Midnight Vultures who were kind of like, eh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it. He's doing the disco thing. Sea Change
Speaker 1: is like, wait, he's Gordon Lightfoot. Now what the fuck
Speaker 1: just happened? Kel from the seven eight one writes in Jake,
Speaker 1: I got another Randy Road story. Come on spill it.
Speaker 1: I won't tell your kids. Thank you. I can't go there.
Speaker 1: I can't go there. Maybe someday, just uh, they gotta
Speaker 1: be older. Six one, seven nine oh six six six
Speaker 1: three eight. You want to hit me up on voicemail
Speaker 1: or text, I'll be back in a flash with your
Speaker 1: emails and a very important update. All right, Royal Tenenbaum's phenomenal,
Speaker 1: phenomenal movie, great movie soundtrack. Zeth and I are taking
Speaker 1: it all down this week, and this film should be
Speaker 1: played loud. You're not gonna want to miss this episode.
Speaker 1: I think this is our sixth or seventh episode of
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I always had heard that Gene Hackman didn't like
Speaker 6: get this movie and like didn't get Wes Anderson and
Speaker 6: had a really tough time on set. But I saw
Speaker 6: an interview this past week when we were doing research
Speaker 6: for this where Wes is talking about shooting with Gene Hackman,
Speaker 6: and he didn't really talk about it that way. He
Speaker 6: just talked about it more as like Gene Hackman is
Speaker 6: an actor who likes to be left alone, like and
Speaker 6: he likes you to like, he doesn't like to know
Speaker 6: that you're like standing there watching him. He wants you
Speaker 6: to like be over there somewhere out of the way.
Speaker 6: And so it's sounded like it's I think maybe this
Speaker 6: this story about him being ill tempered on set was
Speaker 6: maybe apocryphal or something, you know.
Speaker 1: I could also see Wes Anderson just being a professional
Speaker 1: and respective of the great artists of all time correct
Speaker 1: and seeing it, really seeing it through his eyes and
Speaker 1: understanding exactly what the guy needs. And Wes Anderson, being
Speaker 1: the season professional that he is, is not like he's
Speaker 1: not taking it like, oh, what a fucking egomaniac dickhead,
Speaker 1: you know what, total but him not. But Alex Baldwin
Speaker 1: doing the vo begs the question why didn't Gene Hackman
Speaker 1: do the vo?
Speaker 6: Because I think it it it feels more like a
Speaker 6: book to me. It feels like the whole film is
Speaker 6: set up like there's all these.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they have his books, Yeah, yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: And it just.
Speaker 6: Feels like it's like a narrator of a book. It's
Speaker 6: like the omniscient narrator who's telling the story.
Speaker 1: But doesn't your brain tell you it's coming from Gene
Speaker 1: Hackman's perspective, not his perspective, but that it's Gene, the
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman character narrating it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess because the narrator is very biased.
Speaker 1: And if you're a Wes Anderson, wouldn't you go because
Speaker 1: it does sound like Gene Hackman. Wouldn't you go like
Speaker 1: this is too g if you really wanted it to
Speaker 1: be this omniscient kind of narrator voice, it's separate from
Speaker 1: the whole thing. If you're Wes Anderson, wouldn't you go
Speaker 1: like this is too much like Gene Hackman?
Speaker 6: Perhaps, Yeah, but it.
Speaker 1: Does sound like Gene Hackman. So that makes me feel
Speaker 1: like Wes Anderson just didn't want to fuck with Gene
Speaker 1: Hackman anymore, and he's like, now I'm gonna narrate this thing.
Speaker 1: Give me the next best thing, and that's Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 6: Could be Yeah, could be?
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Speaker 1: Give us an update, will you?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jake, we are down to the final four in
Speaker 7: our May Madness Sitcom theme Tournament. Voting in this semifinal
Speaker 7: round will end tonight at eleven to fifty nine pm,
Speaker 7: so there's still time to get in a vote if
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Speaker 7: Jeffersons with the early lead over the Surprising Adams Family
Speaker 7: thirty five to twenty five. In our other matchup, two
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Speaker 1: Eight to twenty two.
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Speaker 1: we got a very thoughtful email from Tom Powell, who
Speaker 1: writes in, Hey Tom, from the five four to one. Here,
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts on this list. Tom's talking about
Speaker 1: the Rolling Stone Top one hundred punk Albums list that
Speaker 1: we discussed last week. Tom goes on to say, first,
Speaker 1: on the question of what is punk, I ultimately don't care.
Speaker 1: It's either good rock and roll or not. But here's
Speaker 1: how I like to think of it. The real punk
Speaker 1: was a brief period in nineteen seventy six in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven, centered in London, New York, and Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It was carried on after that by hardcore in the
Speaker 1: United States and OI crust Anarco in the UK. Everything
Speaker 1: else before is proto punk, everything else after is post punk.
Speaker 1: Works for my linear brain, I can get with this.
Speaker 1: As for the list, the way I look at these
Speaker 1: lists is to completely disregard the rankings and just think
Speaker 1: of it as here's one hundred great punk and punk
Speaker 1: related albums to here. The rankings are just splitting Harris,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a real good point, Tom. Overall,
Speaker 1: Tom says, it's a good list. I was very pleased
Speaker 1: to see bands like Naked Raygun, Soul Glow, the Mecons,
Speaker 1: The Mecons. I can never get that right. I played
Speaker 1: it that band back in the day too, and Team
Speaker 1: Dresh on the list. On the other hand, where are
Speaker 1: the Saints? That's a good point, and squirrel Bait in
Speaker 1: the undertones? Damn, there's no undertones on that list. But
Speaker 1: it's Rolling Stone, so what were we expecting? Love the show piece, Tom,
Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, that's a great the great way of looking
Speaker 1: at it. And great email. He's spelled out everything perfectly.
Speaker 1: This one comes from Laura Cobb. Hey there, my name
Speaker 1: is Laura Cobb, and yes, as the email reads, I
Speaker 1: am forty two. I was listening to an episode several
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I never listened in order, but I'm a
Speaker 1: longtime listener. Anyways, at the end of the episode, you
Speaker 1: asked listeners to contact the podcast about a musical artist
Speaker 1: who had a big impact on your life. Please do,
Speaker 1: Tory Amos. I have a condensed explanation scripted out as
Speaker 1: a voicemail, but I can't find the episode that you
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Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. Anyways, again
Speaker 1: it's Laura. Like the salad Cobb and I can be reached. Oh,
Speaker 1: she gives me her number there and gratitude Laura. Also
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Speaker 1: love to get into a torri Amos episode just because
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by torri Amos and I don't know I
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