WEBVTT - QLS Presents First Musical Memories Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I asked Quest Love Supreme guests about their first

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<v Speaker 1>musical memory, because I feel like it's a great starting point.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone has a come to Jesus moment when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to when they discovered music, or how music

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<v Speaker 1>liberated them or what brought them into music, And oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that music plays an important role of helping

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<v Speaker 1>you remember what your life was. You know, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>my first car accident because I knew the Lanis Marset

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<v Speaker 1>song that was playing as we crashed. I remember like

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<v Speaker 1>the first heartbreak I had with a girl, and Anita

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<v Speaker 1>Baker's Sweet Love comes on like sometimes. You know, Chappelle

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<v Speaker 1>often jokes we turned the car radio volume down because

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<v Speaker 1>no one wants to get their ass beat to a soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, oftentimes music helps us remember what life is.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why I ask them that. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode that the public heard was the Maya

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<v Speaker 1>Rudolph episode. Of course, our very first, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>I believe September of twenty sixteen, and I asked Maya

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and you know, it wasn't like the staple

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<v Speaker 1>of QLs episodes until like twenty nineteen. That's when I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that's a good deal breaker. Oftentimes you got to

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<v Speaker 1>gain the trust of the artist that comes on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of want them to know in the

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<v Speaker 1>first fifteen minutes what type of show this is. And oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with creatives, they often do interviews on the defensive.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we called that.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha journalism, like you're asked an awkward question that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to answer and you know, kind of puts

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<v Speaker 1>them in a pickle. So sometimes it surprises people. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Steve Stout episode was hilarious because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Steve Stout walked into this interview knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that we were going to ask him about the infamous

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<v Speaker 1>NAS Hate Me Now video controversy between him NAS and Diddy,

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<v Speaker 1>and we really didn't go there. Like he was genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>shocked that we wanted to know about his life, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped the interview. I was like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what you guys want to know about, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he was shocked that if it were any other outlet,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that they were more or less there for

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<v Speaker 1>the juicy gossip stuff, and you know, for anybody in

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<v Speaker 1>a prominent position in music. I want to show the

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<v Speaker 1>path that led to that, so that the listener you

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<v Speaker 1>might get inspiration from that, like, oh, okay, well I

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<v Speaker 1>went to high school and I try to start my

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<v Speaker 1>band and da da da da. So if you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the people that you admire going through a process, then

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<v Speaker 1>that might spark an idea and you to do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I will say that when John Oates of

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<v Speaker 1>Daryl Hall and John Oates Hall of Notates of course

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned my dad, that was kind of cool. He said that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up in Philadelphia and the dou wop scene,

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<v Speaker 1>my father was definitely a pioneer, and that meant a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to me to hear. So I guess I should

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<v Speaker 1>share with you guys my first musical memory and rather

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<v Speaker 1>apropos now that the slide doc is done. But my

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<v Speaker 1>first musical memory is also my first memory in life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say that I was two years old.

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<v Speaker 1>This is nineteen seventy three. I'm in my West Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>house getting my hair washed, and you know, I'm two

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<v Speaker 1>years old, so I don't know the rules that once

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<v Speaker 1>you have their eyes closed when getting their hair washed.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister's hand accidentally hits the bath detergent or the

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<v Speaker 1>cleanser ajax, and it sort of hits the marble tub hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's like a cloud of smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Eye and I'm just burning, stinging, sting and sting and crying,

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<v Speaker 1>having a fit, you know. And all I remember was

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<v Speaker 1>I ran from the bathroom on the second floor to

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<v Speaker 1>the first floor, just running. My dad grabs me, and

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<v Speaker 1>all I remember was that they pinned me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a wrestler, like I was pinned to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>My aunt Karen and my sister Dawn were pinning my shoulders.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom pinned my ankles so that couldn't run, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was trying to like you gotta think of

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<v Speaker 1>it like a what's the movie, Oh, Clockwork Orange, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the way they forced the eyelids open to stay open.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad has a gallon of water and he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to flush my face and all this is happening while

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<v Speaker 1>the second song on sly is very depressing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a riot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Album as playing called just Like a Baby, And if

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<v Speaker 1>you know the song just Like a Baby, the ominous baseline,

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<v Speaker 1>very spooky sounding song, that's my first memory in life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of made me obsessed with Sly and

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<v Speaker 1>probably made me highly eligible to direct this documentary because

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<v Speaker 1>of my relationship and obsession with the guy who created

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<v Speaker 1>that song. Weird enough, I didn't hear that song again

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<v Speaker 1>until like eight years later, and when I was like

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<v Speaker 1>ten or eleven, I heard that baseline and instantly ran

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<v Speaker 1>to the record player, and all those memories came triggering back,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the scene and kill Bill whenever, like

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy Jones's Iron Side Please. That's what it felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like triggering, like, oh my god, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling and me being pinned to the floor and

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<v Speaker 1>them trying to wash my eye out. So that's my

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<v Speaker 1>first musical memory. So what was your first cognizant memory

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<v Speaker 1>of music? Yeah, just of the environment you grew up in. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't remember that Soul Train episode in what you

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<v Speaker 1>were crying through your mom's interview segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Mmm, I don't remember it, but I remember that all

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<v Speaker 3>that that era for me was, I mean, we were

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<v Speaker 3>on the road with my parents most of the time

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<v Speaker 3>until I started school, So I mean when we were

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<v Speaker 3>little little sometimes they go out on the road and

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<v Speaker 3>they take us with them. But pretty much, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>I was a baby. I think my mom went out

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<v Speaker 3>on the road for a minute and then she called

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<v Speaker 3>my dad. She was like, you have to come with me.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't be without the baby and without you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we were on the road a lot. And

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<v Speaker 3>I remember being on the road with my parents, like

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<v Speaker 3>I remember somebody lost a tooth in like some town

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<v Speaker 3>with a casino and we got like a chip or something,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Like I remember, like sound check.

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<v Speaker 4>To me is like.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was it was me or my I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's me, me or my brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Even like a bar fight or something.

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<v Speaker 3>No, like like the normal things that happened to a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>But the tooth fairy brought me like a casino chip

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<v Speaker 3>because we were in like Lake Tahoe or something. But

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<v Speaker 3>like like being on the road was very normal. And

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<v Speaker 3>then like seeing my mom, Yeah, like being being in studios,

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<v Speaker 3>being backstage, and like seeing my mom before the show,

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<v Speaker 3>like before the audience was there. All that is like

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<v Speaker 3>tied together as one kind of large memory.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my Rudolph And here is Daryl Hall. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember what your very first musical memory.

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<v Speaker 5>Was, probably seeing my well, my mother and father both

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<v Speaker 5>were musicians. I see my mother in a band. I

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<v Speaker 5>mean my mother was in it was in a band

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<v Speaker 5>in post Town, and I was like, yeah, from the

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<v Speaker 5>age of two years old, I'd watched the band, and

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<v Speaker 5>I always wanted to be the band leader, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy that had the he had like a white

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<v Speaker 5>coat on. Everybody else had red coats on. He had

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<v Speaker 5>a white coat on. So yeah, I was I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>What does Darryl Hall's mom's voice sound like? What is

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<v Speaker 4>her singing voice?

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<v Speaker 5>She was a soprano. She's ninety eight years old now

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<v Speaker 5>and she still sings, but yeah, she's an amazing singer,

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<v Speaker 5>amazing soprano. And my father was in a gospel group,

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<v Speaker 5>a vocal group, and so I learned harmonies from him

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<v Speaker 5>and his brothers and his friends and all that. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I grew up in the whole world.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they closer to do Wop or more Mills Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>or like harmony?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what was their church harmony? You know, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Gospel?

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<v Speaker 1>Harvey, what was your first musical memory.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom would sing at this park across the street

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<v Speaker 6>with her band, and she had this big afro and

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<v Speaker 6>bell bottoms, blue jean bell bottoms in a green shirt

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<v Speaker 6>and some big hoops, and she had this tambourine but

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<v Speaker 6>she would hit it with her hip all the time,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just loved every time her hip would move

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<v Speaker 6>or she'd sing, the audience would just I just saw

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<v Speaker 6>them go crazy. I didn't know what that meant, but

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<v Speaker 6>the sound of her voice always would do something here.

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<v Speaker 6>So that memory always, I always remember that before I

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<v Speaker 6>go on stage. But that was my one of my

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<v Speaker 6>first memories of music. The other one is the h

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<v Speaker 6>The band would record to the A track and it

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<v Speaker 6>would sit in our room. We had a shotgun house

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<v Speaker 6>to just go straight ahead and in the living room.

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<v Speaker 6>The band would record in the living room, and my

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<v Speaker 6>mom would record her vocal part with the A track

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<v Speaker 6>in our bedroom, which was the next room. So I

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<v Speaker 6>would stare at the A track and watch my mom

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<v Speaker 6>record on the edge of the bed. And then when

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<v Speaker 6>they pressed play and her voice came out of it,

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<v Speaker 6>I was just blown away. And that's when I like

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<v Speaker 6>those two memories. That's when I wanted to sing.

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<v Speaker 4>Did your mother did she like make records of your

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<v Speaker 4>recording artists or did she just sing?

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<v Speaker 6>And she was a recording artist, She had her own

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<v Speaker 6>band called car Nova in New Orleans. They had their

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<v Speaker 6>own band. It was interracial, racial bass player guitar. My

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<v Speaker 6>stepdad played drums. That's why I started on the drums.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why I loved watching drummers. That's why I became

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<v Speaker 6>a fan of me. And I would watch the way

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<v Speaker 6>drummers set up their snares. It slanted, is it low?

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<v Speaker 6>Is it below their knees, like every little technical thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So I started on the drums, and I would watch

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<v Speaker 6>them perform rehearse in our bedroom, but we were too

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<v Speaker 6>young to go in the club, so they would have

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<v Speaker 6>the car close to the side door so that my

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<v Speaker 6>mom can babysit while performing, so she would do double duty.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm a kid from that kind of era where

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<v Speaker 6>they did a lot of performing and recording at the

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<v Speaker 6>same time. But she had her own band lead singer,

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<v Speaker 6>and her and the bass player would write songs together

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<v Speaker 6>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I know you're probably obsessed with Darry Jones if

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to figure out drummer angles. All right, that

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<v Speaker 1>was Letusy and now this is Bonnie Rape. I start

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<v Speaker 1>off every episode with the same question, so you're no

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<v Speaker 1>exception to the rule. Could you please give me your

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<v Speaker 1>very first musical memory.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I think my dad, who was a Broadway leading man,

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<v Speaker 7>singing the songs from his show, with my mom warming

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<v Speaker 7>him up on the pianel. She was his musical director

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<v Speaker 7>and rehearsal pianist. And I remember being really little and

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<v Speaker 7>hearing this big, old booming voice singing these great Rogers

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<v Speaker 7>and Hammerstein songs. So I'd have to say, my folks

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<v Speaker 7>playing in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have Organized Noise.

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<v Speaker 1>We begin with Sleepy Brown, whose father, Jimmy Brown, was

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<v Speaker 1>the singer and flute player of a very well known

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<v Speaker 1>funk band from the seventies called Brick. Of course, Brick

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<v Speaker 1>gave us the classic song Dazz. I believe dazz is

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<v Speaker 1>what they call a por dementeau of danceable jazz. They

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<v Speaker 1>call it dazz. And then we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Murray, and of course the late we go Wade.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was recorded in Atlanta in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>very special episode Organized Noise. I know your lineage runs deep.

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<v Speaker 1>I know all your lineage runs deep, but especially Sleepy

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<v Speaker 1>being the son of the legendary Jimmy Brown Brick, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with you, can you tell me what your first

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<v Speaker 1>musical memory was.

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<v Speaker 8>I was six years old, right, and it was my

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<v Speaker 8>first concert I went to. And I was with my

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<v Speaker 8>grandparents and we get to the concert and walk on

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<v Speaker 8>side the stage and my dad, know start performing, And

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<v Speaker 8>when I seen them do dazz, right, my mouth dropped

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<v Speaker 8>and I look back at my grandmother when.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, this is what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 9>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Period, I knew I want to do music.

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<v Speaker 8>As soon as I saw my dad playing them ows

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<v Speaker 8>and everybody screaming and going crazy. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta do this is this is what I have

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<v Speaker 8>to do. And plus you know, my mom would buy

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<v Speaker 8>me Jackson five albums every Christmas, right, you know, so

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<v Speaker 8>I was like the six Jackson. Plus I was in

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<v Speaker 8>Break Right and Commodoors and I was in everybody group.

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<v Speaker 8>So my first experience of music was the greatest era

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<v Speaker 8>of music to me was the funk era and the

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<v Speaker 8>disco era. No music has been made more beautiful than that.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's my whole being, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>No matter what. That's why they called me funk or not,

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<v Speaker 8>because if it ain't funky, I ain't doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I function with that chewing dazz and music and ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hurt nobody. The captain obvious break is, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a favorite Brick song that isn't a hit or anything?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yep, fun one of them, Happy Happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I was gonna say, Damn, I always

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<v Speaker 1>always say, but I've always confessed that I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>working on Sultry, right. I was like preface with like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to say this, but no, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>to the seventy seven episodes, and I gotta say, your

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<v Speaker 1>dad was a charismatic motherfucker even when performing Happy on

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<v Speaker 1>Soul training, Like I.

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<v Speaker 8>Just but they always had the biggest smile. It's like

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<v Speaker 8>we saw him perform. He was just excited and happy

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<v Speaker 8>to perform for people. And he's always been that way.

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<v Speaker 8>When he was younger, he had had a band in

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<v Speaker 8>Savannah that did a couple of records, Jimmy and the

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<v Speaker 8>Mighty Sensations, that did pretty good. Right, So he's always

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<v Speaker 8>always loved music till this day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm working on the album right now with him. We're

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<v Speaker 8>doing like an instrument Yeah, instrumental jazz. So he played flute, instrum, trombone, ato, sex,

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<v Speaker 8>every hole you can put it front him and kill it.

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<v Speaker 1>Living from the Mind was also one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes that Baseline killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and uh uh Somerset uh Summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling them white album coming with Yeah, yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that joint. Wait, like Brick Trivia. Have you heard this

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<v Speaker 1>tip it about Prince? Do you know the story? So

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<v Speaker 1>Prince was such a fan of Brick. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>know that he wrote get it Up? He wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>for Brick and they rejected it. We interviewed Mars, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it for you sound effects sound Yeah, Mars and

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<v Speaker 1>we I mean we've had damn near I remember at

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<v Speaker 1>the time on except Terry Lewis, Terry Lewis. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when we asked Mars about him and Prince Craft in

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<v Speaker 1>the first record, you know, he told us that he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing drums on everything. He was like, when we may

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<v Speaker 1>get it up for some reason, like Prince was really

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<v Speaker 1>into not for some reason, I mean everybody was into it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you just blew me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, Prince had wrote get It Up for Brick Brick

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<v Speaker 1>to be whatever the album is with with the Green

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like it's like the Green Leaves for that album.

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<v Speaker 2>They rejected it. You gotta talk to your dad about that.

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<v Speaker 2>What you're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>There?

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<v Speaker 2>You go, that's crazy?

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<v Speaker 9>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So, Ray, what is your first musical memory?

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<v Speaker 10>Me and my brother and sister used to turn the

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<v Speaker 10>lights off and dance around to flight time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, the airplane land.

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<v Speaker 2>Just nos New York state of mind.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh So early on, I kind of like my father's

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<v Speaker 10>jazz head. So he he had all of this music

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<v Speaker 10>which was like everything that we ever heard in hip hop.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel me?

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<v Speaker 10>All of this ship to cat sample, that's the ship

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<v Speaker 10>that I grew up with playing in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all three of you were born in Atlanta. I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing Savannah. Okay, Yeah, I was born and you

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<v Speaker 2>where were you born? About to say you gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>me swag?

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<v Speaker 11>Boys?

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's where are you born? Where are you?

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<v Speaker 10>I was going to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yes, my mom is

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<v Speaker 10>from Pittsburgh, but I grew up before we came to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 10>We came to Atlanta with Mayna Jackson when he took

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<v Speaker 10>over the city when he became the first black mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 10>My father and mother were in Tuskegee, Alabama, So I

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<v Speaker 10>grew up in Tuskegee pretty much Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what I got roots there too, shout out to Mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>not Texig, but Mobile.

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<v Speaker 2>All right for you, Rico, what's what's your first musical memory?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh Man, Even with listening to their memories, I was man,

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<v Speaker 12>is as simple as that's good now. It's as simple

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<v Speaker 12>as hear music on the radio. Because you know what

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<v Speaker 12>I'm saying, I didn't really hit it. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 12>a car when I was younger, so I didn't really

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<v Speaker 12>hit the radio until like Mama was cleaning up or something,

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<v Speaker 12>or or when I finally went into that back room.

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<v Speaker 12>We had an extra room, and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 12>went to digging, Yes, the guest room and all the

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<v Speaker 12>junk sits in the man. I ended up finding more

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<v Speaker 12>than records back there one day. But the records not.

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<v Speaker 13>A bunch of fact.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, yes, money, but like Donald Summer and uh like

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<v Speaker 12>ring my Bell and all that kind of stuff with

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<v Speaker 12>some of the records and Iley Brothers. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 12>seeing that stuff as records. But but on the radio

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<v Speaker 12>when she was it was just the energy of the house.

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<v Speaker 12>She would be a different person when the music came

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<v Speaker 12>on and she turned up loud and she cleaning up.

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<v Speaker 12>So people always made that I always say you know,

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<v Speaker 12>I like to play my music when I'm cleaning up.

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<v Speaker 12>I really understood what that meant. It's like I feel

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<v Speaker 12>good today today is this is what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going I need to.

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<v Speaker 12>Be a good right, you need to feel good wile

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<v Speaker 12>I'm getting this.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So so my examples of music.

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<v Speaker 12>And another one at a young age was my first

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<v Speaker 12>little job when I was like ten years old, just

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<v Speaker 12>unloading the back of an eighteen or like a truck

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<v Speaker 12>or whatever. They used to play the radio, and I

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<v Speaker 12>just remember that made it go by. So the music

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<v Speaker 12>music was always a I didn't never think I could

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<v Speaker 12>necessarily be able to make it. They never think I

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<v Speaker 12>would be a part of the business. But I knew

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<v Speaker 12>how important it was and how much I did, how

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<v Speaker 12>much it did for me, just at that young age,

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<v Speaker 12>and didn't even know who, didn't know exactly who, none

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<v Speaker 12>of the artists was. Just knew that at that time,

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<v Speaker 12>being a man of my age, which is fifty. During

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<v Speaker 12>that time nineteen eighty, I was eight. So like what

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<v Speaker 12>he's talking about, like soaking up, sir, at the right time.

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<v Speaker 12>It's the end of the seventies, so we but they

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<v Speaker 12>still loaded as far as the albums. I could still

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<v Speaker 12>see an album. I still saw eight tracks, you know what

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<v Speaker 12>I'm saying. I still rode in cards. What we did

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<v Speaker 12>that actually had an eight track in.

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<v Speaker 2>It, So I collect them. Wow, but.

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<v Speaker 12>A brick is amazing because even when when I found

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<v Speaker 12>out who his father was or whatever, you just thought

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<v Speaker 12>about that's ice cube song.

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<v Speaker 2>Vasoline, that's the song that asked you got back? That

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<v Speaker 2>was deep. I was so happy when they did. How

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<v Speaker 2>did you think about vacine?

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<v Speaker 12>Cool?

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<v Speaker 8>Ye, Like a lot of other artists have sampled before that.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, kid played it ain't gonna hurt nobody, you

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<v Speaker 8>know him with did he did?

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<v Speaker 2>It's all good? It was yeah good.

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<v Speaker 8>So well when I heard q on one of the

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<v Speaker 8>coldest disc records.

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<v Speaker 14>Ever all the time, bro my heart like Jenny, So

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<v Speaker 14>I was, man, that's still one of my favorite Man.

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<v Speaker 8>I still play that records and like I'm in the

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<v Speaker 8>mirror and I'm cute and let me shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>That first batch of QLs.

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<v Speaker 1>Guest reflects on how their parents shaped their first musical memories.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases, those parents were professionals, known recording artists

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<v Speaker 1>with their own careers. My parents were also professional recording artists.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a family act nightclub act. My

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<v Speaker 1>father was an oldies du wop singer. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>I was born, my entire family was part of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of my musical memories were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>help shaping the nightclub lounge act. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>musical memories of all time is my dad taking me

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<v Speaker 1>being shopping to record stores.

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<v Speaker 2>Twice a month.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd go to King James on fifty second Street and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad would basically just you know, going to a

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<v Speaker 1>record store back in the day was like a religious

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<v Speaker 1>experience to me, like this is where you first know

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<v Speaker 1>the smell of incense, this is where you first see

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<v Speaker 1>like black light, and you know those zodiac signs that

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<v Speaker 1>are fluorescent colored and they look good in black light

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<v Speaker 1>in your bedroom, and seeing like the wall display of

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<v Speaker 1>how they creatively displayed the records and whatnot. So pretty much,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that for me, Ben, shopping with my dad

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<v Speaker 1>every other month in West Philly was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>dream for me. My dad would go to the hippies

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the store and say, all right, give me

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<v Speaker 1>all the forty fives I need. And you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad needed these forty five so that his band would

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<v Speaker 1>know the latest songs to play, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy would just grab a box and say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you need Casing, the Sunshine Band, you need the Commodores,

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<v Speaker 1>you need the Manhattans, you need Wild Cherry, you need

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<v Speaker 1>the Ohio Players and the New Earth Went and Fire.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I meant to them. They saw my dad

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and knew that this was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>an instant three hundred dollars sale. But you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>would just grab all the forty fives and then Dad

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<v Speaker 1>would just use his instincts to see what he should

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<v Speaker 1>invest in names so that he was familiar with, like

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<v Speaker 1>BT Express or Gene Carn or the OJ's whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>just buy Binge Binge Binge, and we come home. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that started my being shopping addiction throughout the years.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get home, and then when it was time

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<v Speaker 1>for rehearsal, my dad's band would just rummage through all

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<v Speaker 1>the forty fives and all the records and they'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take this, we'll take this, we'll take this, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take that, this, that and the other. And the weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing is pretty much whatever wasn't desirable, whatever my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>band didn't like, I got to keep. So I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm probably a rare case in which the flop

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<v Speaker 1>single was, you know, my favorite song. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always joke that, of course they would keep like

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<v Speaker 1>whatever stylistics hit there was, but you know, the stylistics

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<v Speaker 1>would also cover, like the reggae cover of a song

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<v Speaker 1>called like Shame and Scandal in the Family, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a flop, and of course I would get that record.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd get the Casey and the Sunshine Band single that

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<v Speaker 1>was not a hit, and kind of that became part

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<v Speaker 1>of my vocabulary. So I think I'm in a rare

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<v Speaker 1>case in which a lot of the music that I

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<v Speaker 1>took in from like ages three to eleven or not hits, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Explains my creativity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so sometimes it's not the parents as much as

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<v Speaker 1>records a QLs, guest parents or relatives had laying around

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Next you'll hear some of those stories. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys already know that I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 1>house with about three thousand records and three very distinctive

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<v Speaker 1>record collectors. Like my father was straight ahead. He liked

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<v Speaker 1>vocal and he loved the yacht rock of his day,

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<v Speaker 1>but mostly like vocal stuff like he loves Streisand and

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<v Speaker 1>Nat King Cole and the Beach Boys, anybody with harmony.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his lane.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother was really esoteric, and she would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a cret digger if she were like of age now

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<v Speaker 1>in the hip hop era. So she would judge albums

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>based on how funky they looked and whatnot. So my

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>mom was very hip, and my sister pretty much wanted

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep up with her her school friends, her friends

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>in school, so she came home with like a really

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>diverse record collection and kind of put me onto stuff

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>that I wasn't hip to. I didn't know about Kiss,

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about David Bowie Queen, you know, just

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of yacht rock stuff, a lot of

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 1>AM pop. We used to listen to Wizard one hundred

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>back in Philly. And so I'll say that, if anything,

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>my sister is really really responsible for my elastic kind

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of tolerance for all types of music, you know, which,

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>of course, once hip hop comes then everything's wide open. So,

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up in a house where a thousand

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>records really helps. What was your first musical memory?

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<v Speaker 15>My first musical memory, My memory is very bad, but yeah,

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 15>you know, driving in the vw vand with my dad

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 15>and my brother and sister, and my dad would just

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 15>blast music eight tracks always and sing along really loud,

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 15>and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you allowed to curate the selections or was it

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like don't touch my stereo?

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 9>No?

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 4>No, No.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 15>He would drive, he'd you know, be driving really fast

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 15>and rereaching for the eight tracks and trying to push

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 15>you know, the one, two, three four thing. And that's

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 15>when I really got into music as a little kid,

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 15>especially from the radio. But I also knew. I was like,

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 15>what is it? What's the deal with Neil Young? Like

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 15>my dad would scream sing Neil Young songs?

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Got it? Okay, It's a tough thing to listen to.

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 4>It's like a five year old.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I was gonna say that.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I two lived in a don't touch my stereo household,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so a lot of the music that I went touch

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>with the ten foot pole suddenly you know, you know,

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a great example. So my dad was

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>like pre pre yacht rock, pree am radio pop. Like

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he liked vocals like Johnny Mathis, Barbara Streissan, Nat King Cole,

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>anyone that flexed harmony as well. So we have pet

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Sounds in the house, but I'd never touched it. And

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>then when I read a review that wasn't the Rolling

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Stone Lever review Paul's Boutique, someone said, oh, this is

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Peppery. He's like, I disagree. This is the pet

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Sounds of hip hop. This is more pioneering, And I

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, dad has that record? So actually, like

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Paul's Boutique opened my mind to something I would otherwise

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>resist before the age of eighteen, I'm now open to.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'll ask you, like, because if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>all of the music that you guys and all your references,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you're familiar with the rapid fire way that

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys craft records, I would have thought that coming

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>out the wound that you guys were just like music

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 1>savants that you know, grew up with the pedigree at

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the age of one of all this music. So I

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>might have believed that, at least for the first ten

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>years of your life is more like forced learning or

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Stockholm syndrome.

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Like no, no, no, no.

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 15>So that's an ingrained memory, you asked, like, my first memory,

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 15>that's an ingrain.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 4>It's it's not a pleasant.

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 15>One, but it's a memory. But I have an older

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 15>brother and sister, and this is, you know, early seventies,

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 15>when forty five's, you know, forty fives and I.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 4>And the AM radio.

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<v Speaker 15>It was a certain time in the radio where it

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 15>wasn't like this type of music was played on this station.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 15>This type was played on this station. That you know,

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 15>the music being made in the early seventies was a

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 15>little taste of all of this different stuff, right, And

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 15>you know, the radio kind of reflected that for a minute.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 15>And so we had a sort of lesson from the

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 15>radio for a very brief time. And also, growing up

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 15>in New York City, just walking down the street, you

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 15>hear so much different music that you're you're being taught

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 15>every day.

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And that was Adam King ed Rock Harowitz of the

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Beastie Boys. What was your first musical memory of your life?

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 16>My first musical memory. My mother was a classically trained

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.959
<v Speaker 16>opera singer. And wow, yeah, she sang in the New

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 16>York full of minors. She sang in Lincoln Center.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Like it's crazy.

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 16>I did Cornegie Hall a couple of months ago with

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 16>d Nice, and everybody was like Yo Way and Carnegie Hall,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 16>Way and Carnegie Hall, and in my mind, I'm thinking,

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 16>my mother laped this place three times, like this.

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Is not until I know it four times.

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 16>Until I do it four times, I've done nothing, you

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 16>know what I mean? Because because I looked, I would

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 16>go see my mother at connegeyall. But again, she was

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 16>a classically trained singer, so around the house she sang

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 16>and played the piano. Since first and then my real

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 16>real like music a ha moments was when I stayed

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 16>with my grandmother and I was since I was like six,

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 16>and she had this record that she played like every

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 16>day when she came home for work. It was Happy Landing,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 16>and I would watch her be happy playing this song,

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 16>and then I would just sit there and try to

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 16>figure out how to play all the records in the house.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 16>But when she's coming home, I would put on Happy

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 16>Landings for her to walk into the house too. And

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 16>I realized, like maybe like a year later, like I

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 16>am actually doing something to her emotionally by putting this

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 16>record on when she walks through the door. And that

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 16>made me always want to be the person in the

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 16>house that played the records. So I didn't know that

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 16>at five and six and seven and eight that I'm

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 16>becoming this DJ until I heard records being mixed and

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 16>I was like, Yo, what the fuck is happening right now?

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And that was the late great DJ Clark Kent back

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three. Could you tell me what is

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>your first musical memory in life?

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<v Speaker 17>My first musical memory is when I was in Ohio,

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 17>which is where I'm from.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Yellow Springs, Yellow Springs.

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, I'll say that. You know Chappelle,

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>he could talk anybody into anything, because that's the type

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of gift he had. But during the pandemic, those trips

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of Yellow Springs, you know, it was such a welcome

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>relief to sort of the stress of what the pandemic

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.719
<v Speaker 1>was in twenty twenty. So there was half a second

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>where I was considering getting a house in Yellow Springs.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm still not against the idea, you know, I know

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that quality lives out there. I know Dave convinced a

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>few people in this community to buy property out there

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. So was it always a hippie friendly town

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>since the get or was that a recent development?

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 17>Oh no, it's always been that way. It's always been

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 17>a really cool little oasis in a very conservative state.

0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Those nine blocks exactly.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like a taste of heaven. Like, oh, I

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can get used to this.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I took the wrong yeah, yeah, and I

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>saw the wrong president. I was like right, yeah, I

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>was like, uh, let me, let me get back to

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the to the blue blue section.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>So what was your first musical memory there?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, there were a couple with my dad because he

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 17>didn't play an instrument, but he had a collection of

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 17>records because he liked jazz. So it was me sneaking

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 17>into his collection.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 18>And listening and hearing the drums and not knowing what

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 18>that was because I was, you know, like three and four,

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.879
<v Speaker 18>but really liking what I heard and being drawn to that.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, what were those records.

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he had a lot of Ama Jamal.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 17>He had some and that was probably one of his favorite.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 17>He had Miles records. He had some Coltrane records. Those

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 17>were his his like favorite three artists, you know, which

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 17>was a great introduction for me. He had Modern Jazz quartet.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 17>You know, he had a kind of a nice little

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 17>niche of stuff, and so I would sneak in there

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 17>and you know, listen to probably scratch some of the

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 17>albums because I was too young to really, you know,

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 17>take care of him well. But yeah, that's probably my

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 17>first and you know, maybe my second would would be

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 17>taking a piano piano lesson with my grandmother who was

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 17>a classical pianist, and hanging out with my uncle who

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 17>was a musician as well.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Were drums the first weapon of choice for you or

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what was the first instrument that he gravitated towards.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 17>Oh, definitely drums. Yeah, and I took a lesson on

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 17>piano with my grandmother, But yeah, drums was always the

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 17>thing that attracted me.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>That was Cindy Blackman, Santana. And next up you're going

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>to hear Tjer Moses. Can you tell us what your

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>first musical memory was?

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<v Speaker 19>Teen Marie, my cousin was moving into a house behind

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 19>my tet's house, and we cut a gate in because

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 19>everybody in you know, in the South, we all live

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 19>around each other.

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 17>Family lives around each other, so we would cut gates

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 17>or cut like little paths to go to someone's house.

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 19>And we tore the gate back from my tet's house

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 19>to my cousin who was moving to the house behind.

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 19>And the whole time she was unpacking, she was just

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 19>playing that square bands out. I was really little, but

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 19>that shit was hard. I loved it. I just I

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 19>was a little kid loving Teena Marie. That's my first.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 19>I guess gospel was my first, because church. But the

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 19>first time I really was.

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Excited was teen Red because it must be magic album.

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 19>That was your yeah, that one, Yes he loves you

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 19>that yeah, it's so good. And she was just unpacking

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 19>and dancing and like all in her zone. It was

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 19>her first place.

0:36:57.880 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 9>You know.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 17>And I was just watching that.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 19>I was loving the music, and I was.

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 17>Supposed to help them, but I was a little kids.

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 17>I couldn't really help.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 18>But that's all first in.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Music, all right.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>So here's Dave Matthews first with the memory involving family,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 1>and then another one involving the radio and his mother.

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 2>What, oh my god? Twenty eight minutes.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Yo, he waits.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Can we each have one word of the question?

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>What she got?

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 17>Go ahead, Steve, you go go ahead.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what was your first musical memory?

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute? Time out?

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>The first question we asked. This is the level of

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>comfort I have with Dave Matthews. I legit forgot. I

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>was doing a podcast. I was totally I let a

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>half hour go by it. I didn't even start the process.

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 20>No.

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 17>I was like, maybe he's doing his remakes, remixing. I'll

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 17>start from the beginning.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 21>I'm here, so, uh, you know, if we have to

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 21>start again, I'm happy.

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>No, no again, but I will I will say this.

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>But the question was what was your first musical memory.

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 21>I would like to say my first live music that

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 21>I remember, Like, I think it was my first memory

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 21>because I think I was sitting between my mom's knees.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 21>I was a little kid, you know, sort of, and

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 21>on the back of a flat bed truck. Pete Seeger

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 21>was playing the band really and I remember thinking that

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 21>guy's awesome and he was so weird. He was such

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 21>a weird, but he was so he had he was

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 21>so friendly, and so that's my first Like, I feel

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 21>like the.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 17>Country was this, Dave, because you've lived in a lot

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 17>of places. Where were you when we saw.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 21>Up upstate not upstate New York, but you know, north

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 21>of New York City. So he was in Croaton quite

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 21>a bit, and uh in that area and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it turn Turn Turn or I can't remember what song.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 21>I can't remember what songs he was playing. I just

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 21>remember thinking this, and people were you know, it was

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 21>relaxed and everything. But then I think, my when I

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 21>was five years old, I remember liking the Jackson five.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not entirely sure.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 21>Whether that was because why I fell in love with

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 21>him was because they had a five, ye right, But

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 21>then I really did love.

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Them.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 21>And then I've I've fell in love with the Beatles,

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 21>and I became I would say, a bore until my

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 21>brother opened my brain when I was about ten, and

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 21>my brother was turned me onto other kinds of music,

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 21>and and then I and then it was the seventies,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 21>so I could listen to the radio and you could

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 21>hear you know, in the seventies, you could have the

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 21>radio on and it could be like at least well

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 21>PLJ or.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Whatever it was.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 21>You know, it was like, uh, it could be it

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 21>would be like John Denver and then Marvin Gay and

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 21>then and Paul Up and format and then you know,

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 21>Donna Summers and then you know, I remember my mom

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 21>would always go to the radio when Donna Summers came on,

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 21>and she'd be.

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Going, ah, love to love you baby, my mom, like I.

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 21>Don't like this song right right, And then she waits

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 21>for it to be over. But I married my mom

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 21>always running to the radio and turning off the and

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 21>that was the only song I could remember.

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Her response.

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 21>I think it was just it was too much was

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 21>there was too much love making in that song for

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 21>my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So a lot of QLs guests grew up around

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>New York City and at least to cite the Apollo

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>as a place of musical memories. Then first we're gonna

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>hear from Mike Murphy of the System, and the next

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Larry Blackman of Cameo. So the question I usually start with,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell me what your first musical your first

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 1>musical memory was?

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 22>You know, as a kid, my mother loved music, so

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 22>we used to go to the Apollo all the time.

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 22>And it was at a time when you could see

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 22>five shows in one day. You could just sit there,

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 22>hang out and watch all the shows. And so I

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.720
<v Speaker 22>did that a lot. Those are my earliest, my earliest memories,

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 22>you know, in music in the house of course to

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 22>Jackson five, who I emulated in my first band, and

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 22>kind of that's how I got my start.

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Because you have so much history, man, I might as well.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I got immediately dive in can you tell me in

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>your life what was your first musical memory? My first

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>musical memory, yes, in your life.

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<v Speaker 9>I was about five years old and my aunt was

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 9>staying with us in New York. She was from Augusta,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 9>Georgia and bother's sister, and she always talked about the

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.479
<v Speaker 9>Apollo and she took me to my first show there.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 9>So my first musical memory was I guess being about

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 9>two rolls back from the stage and observing Sam Cook.

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 9>That was first musical memories. And then she tells me

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 9>the story about after leaving there, I broke away from her,

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.719
<v Speaker 9>running down the street and almost ran across Seventh Avenue, uh,

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:28.760
<v Speaker 9>and came close to being met by a Greyhound bus.

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 9>And she didn't think it was that funny, but she

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 9>said I would lapse and let her catch up with me,

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 9>and then break away and run that much more. And

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 9>that had nothing to do with music. But being that

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 9>my first musical experience was there, I was like And

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 9>then after becoming old enough to make it there myself,

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 9>I used to play He'll keep from Church and cause

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 9>the Manes on Sunday.

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Four years Okay, so do me a favorite, because this

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>this is like a rabbit hole show where we nerd

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>out on information like that, could you please walk me

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>through like a typical day where you go to the Apollo?

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Like how much did it cost? Like where would you sit?

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>The acts that played? Like can you walk us through

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a typical apollo? What year are you talking around?

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Is this the sixties?

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Seventies?

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 9>My god? This this had to be the sixties. Okay,

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 9>A typical day was you know, parents would give us

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 9>these envelopes. We were members of the Union Baptist Church

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 9>on one hundred and forty fifth between seventh and eighth. Okay,

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 9>we would go to church. I would take my sister, Shoot,

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 9>about five years younger than me, and we'd go and

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 9>we'd wait until the offering time, which we would take

0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 9>the envelopes and put it in plate, and up to

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 9>the plate went around and everything there was something else

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 9>that happened. They would play music and do something. But

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 9>I would give her the signal and then we meet

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 9>in the back of the church if she wasn't sitting

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 9>with me, and then I would take her across the

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 9>street to my cousin's house, leave her and take the

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.320
<v Speaker 9>eighth Avenue bus to one hundred and twenty fifth Street

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 9>and go up to the Apollo. But anyway, they had

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 9>mad names. On Sunday. There were two shows on Sunday,

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 9>and I would catch the earlier show and my seat

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 9>was if you're on the stage, you look to the

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 9>left and the first balcony right there, that was my seat. Okay,

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 9>it didn't have my name on it, And strangely enough,

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 9>I was never challenged about where I sat. And that

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 9>went on for years. I've seen every late great performer

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 9>of color. I mean everyone from Okay, Sam Cooked, Jackie

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 9>will Flip Wilson, of course, James Brown now I mean,

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 9>and the lines went around the corner in both directions

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 9>all the way to the rear of the theater. Became

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 9>acquainted with acquainted with a couple of the massive ceremonies.

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 9>Goodness names. I can't think of some of the names

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 9>right away, but I don't think and I've seen everybody, Ray, Charles.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 23>B B.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 9>King, Benny King, Joe Text.

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>For you, who was the act that really grabbed you

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the most? Like when you saw them? Like for you,

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>is it just like on board, let me go see

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>what's at the Apollo? Or you know, was the music

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>calling to you or was it just something to do

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>on a Sunday?

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 9>I did that? I was, I was. I was totally

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 9>captivated by everything that happened. And I don't know if

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 9>you have any memories of the Apollom, but they used

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 9>to show a movie before the live acts. It just

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 9>it just grabbed me. I mean, every Sunday that's something

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 9>I did, Like clockwork, wasn't discussed. Didn't feel as if

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 9>I had to. I just had to see whoever was there.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 9>The one show I did not see was the Jewel Box.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 9>Review didn't even know what it was until some years later.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 9>You know, I never questioned that, but man, I was

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 9>there and you know turned into friendships with five Stairsteps,

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 9>with Kenny and Clarence and family, and man, I mean

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 9>I remember times when the Jackson five were there, when

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 9>Michael was running around backstage, up and down the stairs

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 9>and Jermaine you know, you know, if you know Jermaine,

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 9>you know he was the protector and you know, just

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 9>to get to know those guys on a one on

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 9>one basis was was. I enjoyed that in a great deal.

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>So you would you were just allowed lee way like

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:18.839
<v Speaker 1>throughout the theater or just.

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 9>The more the more people noticed me. I was allowed

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 9>to enjoy what I enjoyed doing, and that was you know,

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 9>it was a weird thing. I cannot even remember how

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:39.919
<v Speaker 9>certain things turned into friendships, but I did that.

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>That happened a lot at the Apollo. How many of

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 1>these shows would occur a day? Is it just one

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>long concurrent show from like what a typical show just

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>be like a two hour experience and then they get

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>rid of people and then you come back or yes.

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 9>It was like that. I believe at one time. I

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 9>understand there were several s was a day okay, prior

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:06.839
<v Speaker 9>to my attending, but I would remember at least two

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:12.240
<v Speaker 9>shows and they would add a show according to whatever

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 9>it was going on. I watched the documentary on HBO,

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 9>and a lot of it I remembered, but some of

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 9>the acts that were there prior to my going, I

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 9>heard a lot of things. And then Amateur Night I

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 9>believe it was on Wednesday, and that was a guest

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:41.320
<v Speaker 9>within itself. It was Apollo to me was a finishing school,

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 9>if you want to call it that. But that's where

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 9>I really cut my teeth. I remember George Clinton Parliament

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.280
<v Speaker 9>before it became Funker Delicment I remember the first show

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 9>when it became that, and of course George was wild.

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 9>We've always gone over the years. But there was a

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 9>group called Flamingos then had a song called Funky Broadway,

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 9>and that was the group that, as far as drumas

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 9>were concerned, that turned me out. That solo at the

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 9>end of Funky Broadway was the solo you had to play.

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 1>If you were wait not dying. The Blazers.

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 9>Dyke in the Blazers, and there was was a not

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 9>called the Dyke in the Blazers was one thing, but

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 9>the Flamingos. It was called the Battle of the Bands.

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 9>Groups from the Manhattan's Parliament's Parliament, and a lot of

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 9>other acts.

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the records in the house are children's records, and

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:02.240
<v Speaker 1>they provide a foundation for folks, especially in the days

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of kitty turntables. One of the records that I hold

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>near and deer. My first kid record was you Know.

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 1>As a Sesame Street fan, big fan of Ernie and

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Bert Bert's Blockbusters, I would listen to that record religiously.

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So when I get to school second grade, I would

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>sing doing the Pigeon or La La La La, like

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:31.439
<v Speaker 1>all of Bert's greatest hits. So yeah, man, that was much,

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Shout out to Bert bro Gangster. All right,

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and here is Bruce Springsteen. As if you couldn't tell

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:43.959
<v Speaker 1>by the voice the local sicasty space right now, Like, wait,

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>we interviewed Bruce Springsteen. Damn right, we interviewed everybody on

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>this show. So since this album is essentially kind of,

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>at least the spirit of it is a return to

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.879
<v Speaker 1>the music that you kind of fell in love within

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>your childhood, sure, I guess I'll start with the first

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>question I asked every guest on the show, even though

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>this is like the fourth question. What was your what

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>was your very first musical memory.

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 24>My first musical memory was Disney Records. What was these

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 24>seven Snow White and the seven Doors?

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Hi ho hi hole.

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 24>It's so my first recollection was something like that, you know,

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 24>or you know those little yellow records that played on

0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 24>seventy eight speed. I don't know if you guys are

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 24>old enough to remember these, oh no, whatever, little seventy

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:48.240
<v Speaker 24>eight s's, you know, little kid colors, red, yellow, blue,

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 24>and they played at seventy eight and they were basically

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 24>themes from movies. So that would be my first real

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 24>musical memory as a child. But after that, my mother

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 24>was young, she had me when I was when she

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 24>was in her early twenties, she played the radio. She

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 24>had the radio on all time every day, you know,

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.800
<v Speaker 24>in the car and in the kitchen, and she listened

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 24>to Top forty and so right from a very young age,

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 24>I was exposed to like the great music of the fifties,

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 24>and that sort of was where what kind of inspired me,

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 24>you know, And really I'm basically a Top forty influenced musician.

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 24>That's how I kind of grew up. And I started there,

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 24>and then I went searching in blues and folk in

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 24>a lot of different other places for influences, but really

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 24>I started out just listening to the Top forty on

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:36.760
<v Speaker 24>the radio.

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 25>That's a little unusual though, because I would think, I mean,

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 25>I would consider you maybe like the second generation of

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 25>rock and roll.

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So you're not, I mean, you're not exactly a greaser.

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And I know that you in your teen years. You know,

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it was the late sixties.

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's very.

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Unusual for me to see not not agreeable, but least

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>an amicable musically amicable environment in the household, because normally,

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>like the music of the kid is rebellious music and

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>turn that you know, right, But you're you're saying that

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>your your parents weren't like that at all, like bab.

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<v Speaker 24>Well, my dad was a bit like that, but my

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 24>mother no, she was a young woman and she was

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:30.840
<v Speaker 24>into uh, you know, we're Southern Italians, which means we

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 24>like music, we can sing and we can perform.

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Next up we have Deborah Harry and Christine known as Blondie.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to know, oh, I ask them both

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I'll start with Debris. What was your first

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>musical memory?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 20>Wow, I know, Well that's it really goes back, doesn't it.

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 20>I had, you know, children's record, it's back back then.

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 20>I had a Victrola, at least that's what my dad

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 20>called a victrola, and it was in a box, you know,

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 20>a little suitcase, and it had a speaker that was

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 20>attached to the arm where the you know, where the

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:19.439
<v Speaker 20>needle was and you would just drop it down onto

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 20>the record. And so that those were my earliest things.

0:54:24.360 --> 0:54:27.799
<v Speaker 20>And I think one of my one of my favorites

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 20>was a thing, oddly enough called Little Toott.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was that a Disney record?

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 8>Or enough?

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 4>Was a Disney record?

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 20>It might have been, might have been, but it was

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 20>a really great little song that went through a lot

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 20>of different emotional interpretations because it told a story up

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 20>this little tougueboat and you know the worthlessness of this

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 20>little and little togueboat and how the big togboats always

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 20>you know, pushed it around. But then a little front

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 20>of it, yeah, little too became like the hero of the.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Day and so basically off the Retins Reindeer. Chris, what

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>was your first musical memory.

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<v Speaker 26>Well, I don't I don't really remember locking onto any

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 26>little kid music.

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 4>My first affinity for music started when I was like,

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 4>I guess, you know, around ten.

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<v Speaker 26>Or eleven, with movie scores, which was and man, some

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.759
<v Speaker 26>of those novelty songs, you know, like the Chipmunks and

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 26>Purple People, Eater and stuff. But I, you know, I

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.719
<v Speaker 26>don't know how much that move me, that stuff. But

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 26>then I started, you know, like Laurence of Arabia and

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 26>West Side Story. I mean, I I it's very hard

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 26>for me to explain to younger people what a huge

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 26>cultural touchstone West Side Story was. West Side Story was

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 26>as big as the damn Beatles, There's no question about it.

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 26>I don't think people people don't get that nowadays.

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 20>My oh god, my mother got so mad at me

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 20>because I took my sister, who is seven years younger

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:12.240
<v Speaker 20>than me to see West Side Story and she almost

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 20>had a heart. Oh no, you took her, You took

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 20>her to see that? Oh no, how could you? But

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 20>it was fabulous. It was so wonderful. And you know,

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 20>Leonard Bernstein was never better.

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Really, I was going to say that, I'm currently reading

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:33.799
<v Speaker 1>uh little Stephen Stephen van Zant's autobiography, and he too

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>has an immense obsession with West Side Story and pretty

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>much described it as the way that you guys did

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like when it came out, it.

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Was a huge deal.

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 26>I don't know, I mean, you're probably all your soundtracks

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 26>that I was praying more obsessed with Lawrence Arabia soundtrack,

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:55.800
<v Speaker 26>mauriciol are you know great?

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 20>And the other thing that I listened to a lot

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 20>was like the Cowboys sing, which is you know, Western,

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 20>not even country western, it was really Western music and

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 20>those were those were great, you know, great songs and

0:57:10.719 --> 0:57:13.400
<v Speaker 20>people like Burl Lives and stuff lives.

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now that you you know, declared your love

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>for Lawrence of Varibia, I gotta ask. You know, it's

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>important because the very first Okay, So, I grew up

0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in the household with an older sibling who, you know,

0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 1>because of my sisters, because of her school situation. You know,

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 1>she was fitting in with her girlfriends what they were

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>listening to at the time. So you know, she's bringing

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of you know, the classic new wave

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of punk stuff or whatever. But the one album that

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I remember, even though she had like you know, each

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of Me and all that stuff, like, I remember the

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 1>day that she brought Auto American.

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<v Speaker 26>Okay, okay, okay, okay. So, now, in on the orchestral session,

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 26>there was a bait one of the bass players played

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:10.960
<v Speaker 26>on the Lawrence of Arabia soundtrack, right, So that.

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, is your obsession because you

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>know the way that you open up Auto American with

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the Europa score.

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 26>Yeah, I mean you know you know that by then

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 26>I was at Adito Roda very deep and all this

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 26>other stuff.

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, I always had a thing for soundtracks.

0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 26>I think soundtracks nowadays that's a whole other topic, are

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:34.200
<v Speaker 26>way overused. Uh They're becoming like laugh tracks, you know,

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 26>where they steer your emotions in the direction, right, of where, whoever, whoever,

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 26>the committee.

0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 4>That wrote the thing, they think you should be feeling,

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.560
<v Speaker 26>And then, you know, gradually I started assimilating the pop

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 26>music that was around me, like locomotion.

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 4>Everybody loved the locomotion no matter what, you know.

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 26>And you know, this stuff like the Shambra Laws, I

0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 26>didn't really appreciate till later when we were doing the band.

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 4>I was kind of like commercial to me at the time.

0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 20>You know, well, I'm older than Chris and I remember

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 20>this thing. I used to listen to radio a lot.

0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 20>I had a little radio and I always had my

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 20>ear right next to the speaker. The speaker was only

0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 20>at this big and they had a radio thing called

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:27.480
<v Speaker 20>the Hit Parade. Yeah, and all those like crooners and

0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 20>you know, band singers and stuff like that. There was

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 20>a lot of that. It was kind of great yeah

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 20>before yeah.

0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 4>And then it was.

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 26>And then I went into folk music, of course, you know,

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 26>because I was fifteen and sixty five and by that

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 26>time I've been playing I've been playing guitar for since

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.280
<v Speaker 26>I was twelve, and folk music was it. And I

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 26>remember learning how to play house at the Rising Sun

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 26>was such a big deal to me.

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>The one and only Mark ronson Mark, What was your

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:58.120
<v Speaker 1>first musical memory?

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<v Speaker 13>I have like almost snapshots in my head, like partial memories.

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<v Speaker 13>I remember having a little trap drum kit when I

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 13>was three or four. I remember also having it was

1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 13>either a Sony or Fisher Price record.

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<v Speaker 2>Player that was like plastic, like.

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>A brown joint or like a little tan one, like

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<v Speaker 1>a little tan joint.

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<v Speaker 13>Whereas no, this was like primary colors.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like red.

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<v Speaker 13>Maybe it was just like an English one. It was

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<v Speaker 13>like red, yellow, green, And I just remember lifting the

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<v Speaker 13>needle and putting it down on the record and just

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<v Speaker 13>that excitement when the first like crackle happened, and then

1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 13>like just being like whoa, I can control this. I

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<v Speaker 13>mean it's so not I mean it's not even deep

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<v Speaker 13>enough to compare it to DJ because it literally is DJing.

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<v Speaker 13>But yeah, those are some of my first first memories,

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<v Speaker 13>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So instruments are important too.

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<v Speaker 11>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The drums chose me because my birth doctor and cur

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<v Speaker 1>my mother to let me be as creative as I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be. You know, he's one of those hippies

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<v Speaker 1>like let him play in his food, let him draw

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<v Speaker 1>on the walls, like things that you should not do

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<v Speaker 1>in a black household with a bunch of plastic on

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<v Speaker 1>the furniture. But my mother pretty much took his advice

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<v Speaker 1>and let me just run rampant, but kind of drew

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<v Speaker 1>the line when it was like beating up the furniture.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty much, I'll basically say that after beating the

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<v Speaker 1>furniture to death, my parents got me my first drum

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<v Speaker 1>set in nineteen seventy four when I was three years old.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your actual first musical memory that you.

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<v Speaker 23>I think for me, I was like a kid who

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<v Speaker 23>like who had you know, you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 23>be outside playing with individuals and your friends and am

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<v Speaker 23>I really great friends. But I think mine was when

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<v Speaker 23>I first got my first bass amplifier, had this univox,

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<v Speaker 23>I had a copy Fender Jazz called the Orlando, and

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<v Speaker 23>I opened up the case and I thought it was

1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.760
<v Speaker 23>real fur. I thought I was rich because I had

1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.480
<v Speaker 23>this bass guitarist fur was the fur inside of it.

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<v Speaker 23>That was my first musical experience, experience really, And then

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<v Speaker 23>I played trump. I played first trombone and jazz man too,

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<v Speaker 23>so I wanted to play saxophone, but they I wanted

1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 23>to play saxophone, but.

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<v Speaker 21>They didn't have anymore?

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<v Speaker 17>What age is this again?

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't just in grade school?

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<v Speaker 23>Well, grade school I was just starting to play. But

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<v Speaker 23>by the time I got to high school, I sat

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<v Speaker 23>in the first chair playing trombone.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was Raphael Sadec.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty one, here is bass God, Nathan East.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your first musical memory that you had.

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<v Speaker 27>Yeah, there was there was always a piano kind of

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<v Speaker 27>around the house that uh, pops and moms both would play.

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<v Speaker 27>But you know, it was like, you know, music, music

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<v Speaker 27>filled the neighborhood and you know, so you'd hear gl

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<v Speaker 27>Oudys Night, Marvin Gay out, you know, blasting through the

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<v Speaker 27>homes of this of the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was really I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 27>My first forty five was more Love by Smokey Robinson.

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<v Speaker 27>We were just always gathered around the radio and listening

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<v Speaker 27>to music. And I remember when I played cello for

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<v Speaker 27>three years and then I discovered the base and it

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<v Speaker 27>was it was actually in church my brothers and I

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<v Speaker 27>were doing that. They were doing like these folk masters

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<v Speaker 27>back in the day when all that started, and uh,

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<v Speaker 27>and then there was a base on the altar and

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<v Speaker 27>I went up picked it up and nobody claimed it,

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<v Speaker 27>and I picked it up and I said, oh lord,

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<v Speaker 27>what was your first musical memory?

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<v Speaker 11>My dad was in my ass because I wasn't practice

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<v Speaker 11>my piano in my ass because I had to practice

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<v Speaker 11>a half hour every day. And sometimes I would like

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<v Speaker 11>wait till he fell asleep, and after sleep and then

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<v Speaker 11>and then I would say, yeah, practice and he did.

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<v Speaker 11>I would get a whooping if I if I didn't practice.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't practice your skills, yeah, man. So wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how old were you when you first started playing piano?

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<v Speaker 11>Seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this like a church requirement thing or like just

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<v Speaker 1>something to do to pass the time, or no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my mom.

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<v Speaker 11>My mom had this thing for signing me up for

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<v Speaker 11>activities so she could go do what she was gonna do.

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<v Speaker 11>That was like my babysitter. So if I was at

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<v Speaker 11>the y MCA all day, then you know I was coming.

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<v Speaker 11>That was just or like after school I went to

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<v Speaker 11>piano and then she would drop me off and she

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<v Speaker 11>would like go grocery shop like that was her, Like

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<v Speaker 11>you know that those were all my babysitters. But but

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<v Speaker 11>I learned, you know, I learned how to play the piano.

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<v Speaker 11>And she had me an archery swimming. I could do

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<v Speaker 11>anything when.

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<v Speaker 16>I was little.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh wow, okay, you guys didn't have the white the

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<v Speaker 11>white mom just dropping you off on sething.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boys and girls, summer time.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah yeah, basketball, gymnastics, everything I know in gymnastics, Forward Road.

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<v Speaker 1>Get dropped off with the y and got dropped off

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<v Speaker 1>at Hebrew School on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah sure, yeah, schools are why really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 17>We had that.

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<v Speaker 11>We had a Jewish center and I had to go

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<v Speaker 11>to that too.

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<v Speaker 12>Why'd you have to go to that?

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<v Speaker 11>Because they had What class did I take?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I took a cleaner? Why a cleaner gym?

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<v Speaker 13>I took?

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<v Speaker 9>This?

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<v Speaker 11>I took That's why I put swimming lessons.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right, that's funny, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Because it wasn't tho swimming pool that.

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<v Speaker 4>Was nice like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't go to the fifty second Street. Why

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<v Speaker 2>I could go to the Jewish y on Broad Street

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<v Speaker 2>but not fifty second Street? You get to ask the

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<v Speaker 2>second Street why that's really?

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<v Speaker 1>And closing out the betch that is Mason Gray, another

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<v Speaker 1>one of a kind voice. Thank you guys for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Come back next week and check out your podcast feed.

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<v Speaker 1>Part two of QL's first musical memories as we kick

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<v Speaker 1>off a new year, new season, and more great episodes ahead.

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